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The Young Protectors: Legendary Chapter One—Page 8

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I love how Julie drew Spooky’s face in the last panel. It’s a subtle emotional beat I was wanting to hit, and she just nailed it. 🙂

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So! Friends-with-sexy-times can be awesome times for Spooky. No surprise there. 🙂 But what does Kyle think of that idea? How will he answer Spooky’s question? And if Kyle needs more than just friendship here, what will Spooky say?

Tune in this Saturday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

  • For a moment there was hope…

    • stickfigurefairytales

      At least you’ve got a shiny new V, though.

      • Yes 🙂 showed up just the right time.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Good job!

    • Palpad100 .

      There is still hope.

  • … Could it arise again?

    • Songbird

      Nyehehehe “arise”

      • This could erect their friendship to be even stronger if done right ^_^

        • stickfigurefairytales

          *snickers*

  • davefragments

    The dread question — “How’s your love life?” and the answer is “{panic}”

    • stickfigurefairytales

      It’s situations like that that make ninja smoke bombs a practical thing to always carry with you.

      • davefragments

        No one wants to admit they are a virgin unless they absolutely have to.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Or if they enter a convent at a young age, maybe.

  • It doesn’t have to be love but it’s love right? RIGHT?!?!

    • Toli Bera

      Because it’s not love

      But it’s still a feeling

      No it’s not love

      But my body’s reeling

      To move closer next to you

      — The Pipettes

      • But but but it’s Spooky and Kyle.

        • Toli Bera

          Let’s stay tuned and find out! :O *Scoots chair closer to an old timey radio*

  • Toli Bera

    “Well… first you gotta be secretly plotting to take over the world…”
    “Check, And?”
    “Globe trotting dates”
    “Doable”
    “Be like…. 90 years older than me.”
    “I’ve been known to time travel by accident.”
    “Maybe a few rose petals.”
    “Okay now you’re just asking too much.”

  • Songbird

    Kyle is such a romantic. I just want to cuddle him and convince us both that love can happen :(((

  • Evan

    They are extremely cute on that art style

  • I like how Spooky is honest though still not giving intimate details of others, but it takes Kyle’s emotions for a little rollercoaster ride.

    Also, new personal info about Spooky. So he may have been with a couple other (earth guys?).
    He keeps those details pretty close, so to share I think it shows how much Kyle means to him – as friend most off all, but maybe potentionally more (if Spooky ever settles). Kyle and Amanda may be closest to him, but his history with Amanda may work against them ever possibly going from friends (with occational ‘benefits) to ever being a full relationship.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Sounds like Spooky is more demisexual when it comes to being attracted to guys. Very interesting – I hadn’t realized that people could be in different places on the gray/ace spectrum (if I’m using the term correctly) depending on the gender of their prospective partners, but it makes sense if I think about it.

    • Songbird

      I really love how consistently Alex represents a wide variety of people, especially in a genre that is almost built around caricature.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        And does so with subtlety and depth, as well. <3

    • *hugs*

      • stickfigurefairytales

        *hugs* Hi Doki love!

        • Hey, how is your new house working out?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Good, although I’m at my parents’ again tonight because I still won’t have internet until Thursday. I’ve made some good progress unpacking but there’s still a long way to go.

            I’m trying my best not to stress out too much about it, though. Just got to take it little by little.

            How are you doing?

          • Not too bad…ish.

    • joshsusser

      Sounds like demisexual is a new term for what I’ve known as limerence for a couple of decades. I’m not that familiar with the research in this field, but I do know of one study on the topic. The book Sexual Landscapes is a scientific look into how people can have more than one mode of attraction: lust is physical, limerence is emotional. A person can have one or both drives, each in varying degrees. Spooky falls into a common way to be bi: lust+limerence for one sex, but only limerence for the other sex. The research shows that combo is more common in women than men. The limerence for women and lust for men combo is what you see in a lot of men who are happily married but like a little guy action on the side. (Hello, Senator Craig!) The book is actually a pretty engaging read. It goes into all the experiments they did to measure sexual response, including measuring physical arousal using, um, scientific devices. http://www.sexuallandscapes.com (disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this book)

      [note: Didn’t mean to drop in and mansplain – I wanted to make basially this comment about Alex being so smart about all this stuff, and your comment caught my eye. nice to find out about the demi term too]

      • bandanajack

        actually i had read about limerence many years ago, but my understanding of it, while tangential to yours was different.
        https://goo.gl/ZyCZR8

        a condensed description of the feeling is that golden glow of perfect awesomeness that the beloved has AS one is falling in love, and during that interval. some might call it a pink cloud. as with all pink clouds limerence tends to fade away, and what is left is the sometimes hard work of love, when all the little quirks you thought were so adorable now drive you crazy. stockings hanging over shower curtains, or dirty underwear dropped on the floor. for instance.

        this can explain why some people are love addicts. limerence is narcotic, love is acceptance and patience and cooperation.

        • bandanajack
        • joshsusser

          Ah yes, the old Tennov vs Weinrich conundrum. Both of those two books make good use of the term, in similar but distinct ways. Since neither really caught on in a big way, I don’t know if either can claim ownership. What do you think?

          • bandanajack

            in my life experience, and that of too many young men i have had occasion to counsel in AA and (para)professionally tennov drew a bead on the nature of FALLING in love, as opposed to BEING in love, or loving someone, and it is one to which anyone who has experienced it, can roll their eyes and say been there, done that, got the tee shirt.

            i never ran in to the dichotomy before, but the weinrich version seems far more tortured than i would find useful in describing relationships or sexual addiction. i know you lost me in the telling.

          • joshsusser

            Weinrich’s terminology may be confusing because of Tennov’s work, but his research is still solid and it speaks to something important. You shouldn’t poo-poo it because it’s hard for me to represent it well in a comment or it conflicts with a word you like.

          • bandanajack

            i don’t think i poo pooed it, i said, i think, for my purposes, i would not find it useful, your mileage may vary.

          • joshsusser

            You said the model is tortured, so it was not useful for you. That’s different from saying you wouldn’t find it useful, because you made it the model’s fault. You are passing judgement on something you are admittedly unfamiliar with. I guess that’s life in America.

          • Fair points are being made, but I think we’ve covered all the ground here and it feels like we’re beginning to lose our tone of respect a bit.

            I’m closing this thread. Let’s move on, please.

          • bandanajack

            i have been accused of complicating things unnecessarily when explaining something, the expression that has popped up humorously is reaching around my back to scratch my elbow. to me that is the way i perceive that model. that it is too complicated for me to use effectively is at least as much my problem as that of the model. blame was not implicit, just my needs and perception. and i don’t have any idea what that would have to do with life in america…

          • I’ve closed this thread, Jack. Maybe you missed it. But let’s move on, please.

            Further comments will be deleted.

      • I wouldn’t call that mansplaining, but a good adding comment about the demisexual topic. I found it very interesting 🙂
        I’ve never heard of the term, limerence, as it may be an English-language term (or I just didn’t really know much about demisexuality until maybe 8 years ago when I looked more into terms)

      • William Clapie

        How about the fact that ol’ Spook’s spent a lot of time in hell and was shall we say abused? Not a lot of detail but it was clearly hinted at that some of that was sexual, soooo. Spooks just might be looking for someone he can count on. Kyle has grown up quickly after his little affair and father reveal. I think his heart is in this world and he too is looking for someone to count on. How about someone that survived hell?

    • camelotcrusade

      TIL demisexual. Where would I be without urban dictionary? I love the Internet.

    • Kate G

      I think the new rule should be, if it comes in a spectrum (gender, sexual preference, Down’s, Autism), any variation is possible? I mean, it would make life a lot easier. It would be so much easier to talk about too.

      • Klaus

        So he is more like ¾ sexual. Sesquisemisexual? Or what is ¾ in fancy words?

    • William Clapie

      HUH?
      LGBTQ, Right?

      So, Pansexual and now Demisexual? Again, HUH? Are we still in a comic book?

      • I’m not 100% sure where you were going with this, William, but it’s completely appropriate for readers to be discussing sexuality and representation in this Comments Section. In fact, thoughtful discussion on non-“comic book” topics is something I actively try to encourage with my writing. And it’s especially useful for me to know when readers who aren’t typically represented in mainstream comics feel “seen” in these pages—that’s another important goal for me with my writing.

        I’m sure you didn’t mean any harm, but per my Comment Policy, let’s please make sure we’re using a tone of respect when responding to other readers’ comments.

        And with that, I’m closing this thread. There is no need for others to respond to this.

        • William Clapie

          my apologies. The comment was in the category of, is this real life we are talking about or the comic book?

  • Jeff Baker

    There’s a subtlety to this conversation that feels very real! And yes, I love the artwork!

  • Dannykat

    I swear, they might not be in a romantic relationship yet, but if they will enter one, they will be my favorite couple.

  • Just realized that question might be awkward for Kyle. Let’s be honest; his past with Duncan was a mix of being so happy he could have sex with *someone* (aka. super horny), mixed in with a hope for a connection that could be love.

    Kyle has to realize he was partly naive, part horny and part being his lovely self. First was what made it easy for Duncan to manipulate him, last was what made it hard for Duncan to do so once he got to know Kyle more.
    I would never blame Kyle the slightest bit what Duncan did to him, but possibly telling Spooky again how his ‘little head’ did much of the initial thinking could be awkward.

    Will they skip that part and talk more about how Kyle may not be able to seperate sex from deep emotions, especially when a crush on Spooky is already present.

    • NoiseShaper

      The more awkward part is most probably that according to Kyle’s dad he actually has had feelings for Sppoky already, which might or might not be reciprocated on the same level…

  • TwilightDreamer

    aaaawww!!

  • Songbird

    Honestly? I think it’d be healthier for Kyle if this didn’t turn into a relationship. Don’t get me wrong, Spooky is great, but I really don’t think he’s ready for that kind of emotional commitment yet, especially after what he’s been through. I think Kyle would be better off learning how to deal with feelings once he’s acknowledged them, as he’s JUST gotten to the acknowledgement stage. It’s a lot of new very very quickly.

    Also I think Spooky and Commander are going to end up a thing soooo

    • I think Amanda and Spooky are both to strong and independent minded that they may not be suitable for a long term thing. Not that Kyle isn’t strong, but he wants what connection with someone.
      I agree that, as much as Iike the idea, that ‘someone’ maybe shouldn’t be Spooky. I still won’t mind some .. connection.. at times with them, if they never become anything else.

      (Also, slightly spoiler here, a short story on Patreon also reveals another issue that may interfere with Spooky and Amanda being a couple: Amanda’s telepathic abilities when she’s close with Spooky)

      • Songbird

        They certainly wouldn’t be a conventional old married couple.

        (Ah yes, the intersection of powers and romance. That was quite the read.)

    • Curt Clark

      After reading this, I don’t think “ready” is the right word to use to describe Spooky. He seems plenty mature. He knows what he wants and he goes for it, and what he wants isn’t monogamy.

      KYLE might not be the one who’s ready, though — to give up the storybook fantasy of “1+1=2 > everything else” that we’re forcefed by our culture and expand his worldview to incorporate the other myriad forms of love that exist. I hope he is, but I’ll understand if he’s not.

      • Concerto

        Monogamy and polyamory are two really differents ways of living a relationship, but I don’t think one is better than the other, or more healthy, and if polyamory work for someone maybe it will not for another one and if monogamy work for someone it doesn’t mean it will work for someone else. Plus and it’s personal, being polyamorous isn’t simple when you have low self esteem or trust issues ( it ask a lot to believe that the person you’re with haven’t a hierarchy in his differents lovers, you have to trust yourself a lot and being able to think that you’re special for someone and that can be difficult ) All that to say that I don’t think Kyle have to ” give up ” the way he is seeing relationship or that society is imposing him it. ( Is it english ? I hope it’s at least understandable I never make a text so long in english haha )

        • Curt Clark

          I apologize, I misspoke. Writing a post at 5 AM will do that to me :p

          The “storybook fantasy” I was referring to was that monogamy is the ONLY way to go. Acknowledging the validity of the other forms of love that exist, whether he decides they’re for him or not, is what will require a second big leap of maturity on his part.

          • fujoshifanatic

            I’m glad you clarified this. I feel I am very mature (at least I hope I am at my age), which means I am mature enough to know in the end, polyamory is not a type of relationship I could be in for long term. I do give mad props to those people who can though; anyone who can incorporate as much love as possible in their lives is living theirs to the fullest. 🙂

          • It’s kinda strange, given I haven’t tried it yet, but I think that best possibility for me to enter a relationship (and stick with it) would be if I found myself in a closed polyamorous one. Where the ‘pressure’ to make time and plans to be together isn’t between two people only. Where my loved ones could have time without me annd be good with it.

            I’m happily single, and my (albeit not huge) experience with relationships is that even if I’ve reached the point where I feel deep about the other, I still feel restless and almost trapped in a cage, if I have to fit my life to another person. My *need* for personal space and alone time is too big sometimes. I need it to function well. I’m an extrovert introvert. I like being social with friends/family when I’m with them – can even spend days amongst people and have the best time/fun, but then I get too ‘full’ and just need alone-time, sometimes for days (and barely talk to anyone).
            It’s hard to tell someone: ‘it is not you, it’s me, but please go away for a few days and don’t call me much/at all. I’ll let you know if I want to talk’.
            Not only do I think that would be ‘easier’ in a closed polyamous ‘couple’ (tripple?), but I think I’m better suited for two rather than one 🙂

          • Concerto

            I think what you’re talking about is a closed triad :D.

          • That’s the word. Thank you. For the life of me, I couldn’t remember what it was called.

  • unknownlight927

    Really enjoyed Spooky’s down to earth answers but this could cause problems for him and Kyle, especially if they end up having sex. Kyle does not strike me as a “casual” guy. The way he dropped the “L word” shows there is more to his feelings then just friendship. To be fair, they could remain friends and I would be fine with it, but every time I look at them, I see a Love story. I consider myself an excellent novice detective when it comes to piecing together story lines but I have no idea where Legendary is going and I am excited yet TERRIFIED!!

  • Madock345

    I keep missing camping, school is just nuts lately 🙁

    Spooky is like super hot here, btw, not just the way he’s drawn, but his attitude and personality are really attractive. I need a guy like that.

  • bronakopdin

    awwww, seems Kyle was diappointed by that comment (obviously >//////<)
    But Spooky is asking THE question!!! Will Kyle be honest? How will Spooky react?! gosh I'm so curious!!

  • ShaSha

    I’m dying here. This arc should be NSFW because of crazy emotional roller-coaster ride. I can’t bang my computer at work!!

  • Madock345

    I dunno, I think there’s a lot of fanfiction possibilities here:

    • Yeah FWB are awesome we bang now

    •No. true love, lifelong monogamy, Prince Charming only, you slut

    • Will you stop yapping about feelings and kiss me again already?

    • What? I was imagining you banging Tsu and stopped listening.

    • Yeah that’s kinda how I felt when I was banging the annhiliator, you shoulda seen him naked, like a baby’s arm holding an apple

    • [Kyle’s answer interrupted by arrival of Danny Phantom who Kyle proceeds to bang instead of Spooky]

    • Actually after I accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior I was cured of homosexuality, you should come to church with me.

    • Mitch didn’t talk this much when we fucked

    •You still got any naked pics of the Commander?

    • Curt Clark

      *flinch* Ouch.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      THIS made me laugh like an idiot!

  • Kate G

    I love this candid and honest conversation. I feel like maybe we don’t always have this type of candid conversation with those we really trust. These are the kinds of conversations that can really cement friendships.

    (Yay, still have internet! I expect it’ll be gone later today. Oh, I hate packing and moving!)

  • Concerto

    Ouch, that page hurt

    • Klaus

      Why?

      • Concerto

        Because of my non-existent self esteem, one sided love is a topic which affects me more I suppose ? Just a thing about me not the story fault haha. 🙂

  • Marcus Dionte Scott

    Kudos to you for exploring what seems to be a form of demisexuality. That’s just awesome

    • Curt Clark

      That was what popped into my head too. One of my boyfriends is like this.

  • fujoshifanatic

    Mm, talking about your feelings to get a better sense of your partner; now that’s the best kind of foreplay! Spooky is so awesome. And if I understand the current vernacular of sexual identity, he is also bisexual, biromantic, but demi-homosexual. That’s an interesting and realistic mix on queerness. As a queer person, I have seen all kinds of permutations and flavors of sexuality besides the Kinsey scale, and it’s nice to see this comic reflect that kind of diversity and complexity. Kyle is in very good hands here, and considering his experience up to this point, he really deserves that. 🙂

    • Shihchuan

      I’m happy to have learned about the concept of demisexuality from the comments: it seems that what you describe of Spooky describe me as well, only instead of demi-homosexual I’m demi-heterosexual. It’s nice to know that there are words that can serve as tools to help us describe better how we feel.

      I agree about your second point as well: I’m reminded of the discussion that was had here a while ago about the portrayal of palms of black people. I was about to comment on just that (some race-defining details can be overused to the point of caricature), from the perspective of another “kind” of POC, but then didn’t get around to it…

  • bandanajack

    if kyle was one of the young men i have counselled, and in aa, i have counselled/ sponsored quite a few over the last 3 decades, i would suggest he slowly back away from spooky in a sexual situation. unless and until he was looking for someone to practice non flammable sex with, since spooky could protect himself, but in that case he had BETTER not be kidding himself. what he wants is something that spooky is not prepared to give. at this point, knowing what they both now know, the cuddle buddy game would be an abuse of friendship.

    kyle would be better off putting his emotional energy into opening up to new potential partners.

    imho

    • Concerto

      I’m scared that Kyle will be hurt. I hope he will not lie to spooky about his feelings.

  • Jason Moon

    After the previous roller coaster ride, it looks like Kyle’s more tentative now.

  • D. G.

    I hope they have more than friends with benefits.

  • I’m really enjoying reading these comments. Y’all are so smart and thoughtful. 🙂

    • William Clapie

      ? All of us? Wow! Thank you! LMBO!

    • William Clapie

      quick note. The disqus link on the comic page seems to be broken. just the infamous spinning circle.

  • fujoshifanatic

    I just enjoyed rereading the Spooky/Amanda story on Patreon because of Danish’s comment below, and it totally reminded me of this song:

    https://youtu.be/uSpnKu8l8UM

  • I really can’t wait to see if they’ll mention the ‘elephant in the room’, and talk about Kyle’s brief but important encounters with Duncan. It really isn’t something they’ve had much time to talk about until now.
    How much will Kyle talk about it. Will/how much will Spooky ask Kyle about it? I feel like this is Spooky giving Kyle an opening to decide how much they will enter that sore area.

    • NoiseShaper

      I don’t think that Kyle could really say all that much more than what he already did when Spooky and the others had picked him up at Duncan’s warehouse.

      • One thing is facts about what happened and how he felt just after. What does he think/feel about it now?

        • NoiseShaper

          Yes, but I would expect that it’s more a past painful experience for Kyle without him still having his own feelings really invested in it beyond getting over some residual trauma.

          I’d think an elephant in the room would be something that one is really invested in by oneself, and if there’s anything like that, it’s probably more Kyle’s feelings for Spooky which Spooky doesn’t exactly reciprocate if I read this right.

          • Madock345

            Doesn’t the phrase usually refer to something everyone is aware of and uncomfortable with but doesn’t want to talk about?

          • NoiseShaper

            I think if the emotions between those two are indeed somewhat asymmetrical there will be some trepidation about that. But it could be way, way worse!

          • Adam Black

            or that people have an unspoken group agreement to Not pay attention to .

          • Wayne Lunkwitz

            Good analogy…..but I think after reading this page and the page before……Spooky has always had “feelings” for Kyle….but he said nothing…….let “morning wood” speak for that …….point!

  • Ishvaara

    THANK YOU for exploring demisexuality here! This is why I’ve gone without for nearly 6 years!

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    And, now the “million dollar question” from Spooky……Kyle should take his time and answer very carefully.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    My,my…….haven’t thought of that song in a long time……but it does spark memories of a dance floor……mixing with the crowd …..and feeling …..young and happy!

  • Sapfo

    I know just what Spooky is talking about. But what about Kyle? Thinking back to all the cards, first time and so on…. What did Kyles card say?

    • Klaus

      It says that his first kiss was in an alley with a supervillain when he was 18. However, we all know that he was actually 17.

    • Adam Black

      What If Kyle and Spooky previously hooked up, Before ETE?
      and Spooky had to do a memory wipe spell on them, for another reason!
      ( what if they hooked up right after truth or dare?! )

      Making a the ETE arc a terrible preventable tragedy ….

  • davefragments

    I keep thinking today is Friday and it’s update day and I keep getting disappointed.

  • Bei Dawei

    I just noticed something. Spooky’s bedroom has no attached bathroom–presumably it is down the hall outside. From the illustrations, it appears that the room in which Kyle and Spooky used to snuggle together was this same room (although it is possible that they are just arranged the same way). That means when Spooky left to go to the toilet–with an erection!–he might have passed by some of his other team-mates on the way!

    • Klaus

      This is not at YP HQ. It is next to Spooky’s private eye office.

      • Bei Dawei

        (Sigh) there go four volumes of fanfic, down the drain!

  • Curt Clark

    This question is so LOADED for Kyle — I didn’t stop to think about it until just now.

    Spooky has the advantage of experience — after an INCREDIBLY harrowing adolescence, he became mature enough to be a magnet for “boys, girls, he can’t help it, baaaby…” We know he’s had at least two relationships — Amaado and Amanda. Point is, dude’s been around the block.

    Kyle, speaking strictly in terms of sexuality, has most decidedly, emphatically NOT been around any kind of block whatsoever. His only sexual experiences have ended in fire and trauma, of completely different but similarly harrowing kinds. Once, he lost the foster family he loved, and once, he was a portal that almost led to the end the world. Spooky’s question is one he doesn’t have the answer to, because he lacks any sort of context outside his own experiences. I’d imagine porngraphy has been somewhat off-limits to him, due to his age and powers, so he doesn’t even have the {seriously flawed) framework of porn to understand sexuality. It’s kind of a minor miracle he even got to accept being gay.

    Spooky is not asking Sexuality 101 questions. This is AP-level stuff even people in the real world don’t always understand about themselves.

    I hope Kyle doesn’t take it too hard if he can’t automatically answer them all.

    • Klaus

      On the other hand, he has known that it is boys he likes for a long time.
      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-ch2-page-3/

      • Curt Clark

        Point taken, He’s certainly farther along at 18 than I was. It took me till I was 19 to admit it to myself, and I didn’t come out until something closer to 21 or 22.

        Not my finest two or three years, I’ll admit, but I learned a lot about courage and cowardice from that time.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      I remember all those……feelings …….nasty, hurtful……LOVE…..When I was 21…..I worked on the same job as my Dad…..same employer ….I knew what I was…..I knew what I wanted. But I was “locked into” that job. I met someone through a personal ad thing…..at first he pushed me away when that subject came up (he was black, obviously I am not.). I refused his pushing. We became close friends. I wanted to go visit him. His answer was so mature “Only if your parents approve.” So, that got shot down. Not long after that he was killed. I cried alone at night for days….Didn’t say anything to Mom or Dad until…..after Dad was gone and Mom and I had moved to town. She asked me one day out of the blue “What ever happened to that boy you were writing to?” I lied said we didn’t work out. Love is beautiful ,but it can screw you over so bad.

  • Alex has posted what is now one of my fave YP ‘extra-art’ pieces on Patreon. Something all new.

    Everyone who can should go look 🙂

    • davefragments

      It completely made my day.
      A bright spot of sunshine rising brilliantly.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Hello campers, I am so pumped about what’s coming tonight!

  • davefragments

    Hello Campers,
    Are we ready for page 10? Or what?

    • Adam Black

      what happened to 9?

      • davefragments

        CURSES
        I just woke up from a tiny 15 minute nap and typed the number wrong.

        • davefragments

          I hate those quickie naps that happen when I feel tired and close my eyes and then 1 to 15 minutes later was up like a zombie…

        • Adam Black

          oh

    • Saxon_Brenton

      I’m definately wanting to find out why Kyle has that slightly let down expression in panel 5. It comes just after Spooky has explained that his occasional trysts with men need some sort of emotional connection. That seems ideal for Kyle. Does Kyle have some sort of esoteric hangup that’s getting in the way? Or is the blood rush causing Kyle to mishear?

      • davefragments

        I think Kyle has the thought that he could be Spooky’s first love and now, Spooky reveals that he has more experience and Kyle is the “virgin”… Puts pressure on Kyle to be good in bed.

        • Saxon_Brenton

          Ah, good point. I hadn’t considered that angle. If that’s the case, it would seem that Kyle still has a lot to learn about Spooky.

          • davefragments

            Kyle might be one of those sweet innocent types that never realized how attractive he is to others and because of his fiery inhibitions never let himself feel the way you need to feel to undress with another and do it.

        • Wayne Lunkwitz

          Well…….Kyle does have the advantage of being “HOT” in bed…….let’s just hope no one gets “burned” 😉

      • Songbird

        I think it was the implication that it could just be a friends with benefits thing with spooky, whereas Kyle is hoping for love. *Shrug*

    • hey dave! a bit tired. It seems I am to be denied a regular sleeping pattern.

      • davefragments

        I’m tired but not from lack of sleep. I revised all the page in my website (150+) over the past four days and that’s really tedious staring at the computer. Too much HTML detail.

        • I feel for your eyes.

          • davefragments

            I’ll be OK in 5 minutes.

      • davefragments

        Try to figure out what will give you a solid night’s sleep and then repeat it.

        • Not being woken up by someone, but that isn’t something I can fix.

          • davefragments

            Oh, sorry to hear that

          • It is what it is.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      Hi Dave, ready for the next scene…….waiting for the answer from Kyle.

  • Doki is so tired. I might not make it to the new page.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Just a thought to add in……off topic……bowling alley here has now been open for business for two weeks after it was closed for change-over…….problem for me is ….the previous owners left no lists of who had which locker……and my bag along with ball, shoes etc. has gone missing……I will wait it out using house ball and shoes (so far free of charge)….so that is a blessing……will update as situation changes.

    • davefragments

      That was stupid.
      (And I do know what they did and the mentality of why they did it.)

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        If we are on the same train of thought , Dave……the equipment was fairly new…..about three years old…..and the thought has crossed my mind that they want me to buy new stuff……on their bottom line……but I am not finacially able to do so at this time.

        • davefragments

          That’s a possibility.
          But I know from when my Dad managed bowling alleys that the money streams from league lines and rentals are the major income sources.
          What I suspect is that the sellers didn’t give the buyers the rental list (or maybe didn’t keep a rental list). Or worse, the sellers simply opened the lockers and emptied them. That means the buyers were too trusting.

          • Wayne Lunkwitz

            Well…..it went something like this…..Immediately upon taking possession the buyers/new owners…….decided to gut the locker room and expand the bar area to make room for more pool tables……all rented lockers were emptied into un used lockers…..there was no manifest of who rented what….by name or number of locker…..so….it may have been picked up by any stranger….who knows?

          • davefragments

            Well that’s the new owner being stupid.

          • Wayne Lunkwitz

            I am holding out for a possible “offer” to replace what was lost….but knowing the general rule…. “Not Responsible For Lost Or Stolen Items” ….not holding my breath.

          • davefragments

            sad state of affairs

          • bandanajack

            also, be sure to check all the house balls to make sure yours didn’t wind up there, if you haven’t already.

          • Wayne Lunkwitz

            It didn’t land in the “house “rack……it would stick out like a sore thumb….on a better note…….I did find a house ball that fits my hand and left-handed grip fairly good…..until I can afford to replace / find the other stuff.

          • bandanajack

            yay, i know how important that is, once you have had your own ball. i spent many years behind the front desks of bowling centers in several states.

  • davefragments

    yeeee-hah!
    Patreon does it’s happy dance

  • davefragments
  • Brony

    Spooky’s face in the last panel is so adorable!

  • William Clapie

    To folks I may have offended. Apologies. From a fellow that doesn’t know what he is! Just an older confused fellow that loves the comic. I am enjoying the depth of discussion here as well. The terms throw me sometimes as I am not sure what they include? Sorry again. Too old school, I had, LBG, growing up. By the way. researching b in my life, hence the great confusion. Afraid of it in fact. Thanks folks. If you like I will even step out of the threads

    • There’s no need to step out of the threads, William. The tone of your initial reply wasn’t clear, but you’ve now made it clear. 🙂

      When I was growing up, there were a lot of folks who questioned whether bisexuality and trans identity had any place in gay and lesbian discussion, or whether those identities were even valid, and that caused a lot of bisexual and trans folks unnecessary pain. Nowadays, some folks self-identify as asexual and demi-sexual, and it’s important to me that those folks know they are welcomed and accepted here.

      Thank you for sharing that you are looking into your own sexuality right now. Even though that exploration often ultimately leads to much happiness and the lifting of a heavy burden, it can be scary at first. Just know that you are a valued member of our community here, whose voice is welcome. And if you have any specific questions, I’m sure there are lots of folks who’d be happy to try to help.

      Thanks, William. 🙂

      • William Clapie

        thank you

  • It’s so nice to hear Spooky talk about his sexuality and feelings. I’ve been curious. Also now it makes more sense how Kyle first started to realize he’s gay.