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The Young Protectors: Legendary Chapter One—Page 4

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Spooky looks so sad in that last panel… 🙁

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So! Spooky wants to kiss Kyle! But for some reason, Kyle is walking away! What’s going on here?!

Tune in this Saturday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

  • Noooo! Kyle don’t think that way.

  • ???

  • DarkJokerOfAmuro

    found a spelling error in Spooky’s speech bubble, the word “to” is missing it should be ” I want to Kiss you”

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Good eye!

    • You know, I must re-read my own scripts a thousand times before I post here, and still I miss these things! (And that’s not counting all the other folks who are part of the process. Those typos are sneaky!)

      Thank you so much for the heads up. The fix will be posted soon. 🙂

      • davefragments

        They hide in dark corners and backs of cabinets like mutant vermin with wings, waiting for the unobservant hand or the inattentive glance away and then they leap and suck the blood from your body or your writing. After that, you can never be the same. Every dark corner literally quivers with their presence and your mind sees them moving in the dead of night, scraping the walls and peering down with red, beady eyes.

        • Wayne Lunkwitz

          Ummm…..Dave……are you alright? I’ve never seen this side of you before……sounds like you want to skip over September and head straight for Halloween …..so you can scare the cr@p out of someone!

          • davefragments

            I was having a little fun calling out typos.

          • Wayne Lunkwitz

            With the literary flare of a master of horror!

          • Pietro7

            Which I quite enjoyed. Now I’m trying to think of a context in which I might steal some of Dave’s purple prose for re-use. 🙂

          • davefragments

            You can. But I am going to use that. I’m not sure how yet. I think it will be something Cthulhu.

  • Everything was going so well…

  • Pietro7

    Ouch. I kind of expected this. Kyle is scared of burning Spooky the way he burned his foster-sister, only worse since they will be physically closer. It will be hard to lay that particular haunting memory to rest. Spooks, don’t let him run away – help him get past the fear instead.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Although I also think Kyle’s worrying that Spooky is only agreeing to sleep with him in order to help Kyle stress-test his powers, not because he’s actually attracted to him. (Which is ridiculous of course, but still.)

      • Pietro7

        What looks from the outside like a ridiculous insecurity can look like a perfectly rational fear from the inside, alas. Part of the tragedy (and glory) of being human.

  • Aww, Spooky makes a sweet hand holding, but sadly Kyle’s insecurities step in. Time for a good Spooky talk, like the one when Kyle thought himself a monster at the factory.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Spooky gives excellent talks.

  • davefragments

    Kyle’s shy?
    Or is he being coy?

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Teenager-with-superpowers-y, in my opinion.

      • davefragments

        Maybe pre-date jitters?

        • Well it’s Spooky. L’sigh, l’faint.

          • davefragments

            🙂

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Or “is my friend only agreeing to sleep with me to help me make sure I can control my fire powers during sex and not because he is actually attracted to me.” Kid still has a few issues to work out.

          • davefragments

            That’s one big “insecurity”

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Also fairly original.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      My guess is that he’s having an attack of X-Men style angst, as developed by the comic writers like Chris Claremont and Fabian Nicieza.
      A perfectly valid narrative choice for getting characters to bring up and discuss their issues, and certainly superior to the “As you know, your father, the king…” method of plot exposition. But it has to be used carefully because it can be laid on a bit thick.

      • davefragments

        I never considered that. I need to think about it.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I was already thinking of Rogue here, along the lines of superpowers that make sex with (most) people impossible.

    • Kyle has ben crushing on him for a while and suddently it’s happening. I think I could get insecurities of *why?* too. Why the change? Why now? It’s almost to good to be true.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    No, it’s because you’re a very attractive young man, Kyle, and Spooky finally knows that you’re interested!

    • I think he’s known for a while, but not wanting to ruin their friendship he’s kept it platonic, because Kyle was too vunerable to take that step and keep it casual. Not to mention Kyle’s mental blockage when it came to sex,

      But Kyle is 18 now, not a minor on their team, which also may have been part of it, and he’s started to heal mentally – enough to have tried sex with Duncan. He’s even ‘out’ now, and much more comfortable with himself.
      Obvious still got some issue though, so time to work with those.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Those are good points.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I think Spooky’s also pretty comfortable with taking on a role here that’s something of a cross between friends with benefits and a sex therapist. Spooky definitely finds Kyle attractive, he cares about Kyle’s feelings, and he enjoys sex, plus he’s got enough magic to protect or heal himself should Kyle’s powers get out of control.

        Obviously we didn’t see their earlier conversation that Kyle alluded to last page, but that’s kind of my guess about how things stand.

        • Concerto

          Everytime I read someone they speak about it being ” friends with benefits “. People really don’t want it to be a romance ? ( I’am really asking no being agressive I swear, I do what I can with my english xD )

          • Madock345

            Bit of a rift in the community I think. Some people are really attached to romance, some are really turned on by the idea of a friends with benefits situation, or just enjoy the current relationship dynamic. Personally, I’m kinda torn on the issue. I do like a good romance, but there’s something really attractive about a really buddy-buddy relationship.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Sorry I’m late, everyone! Hope camping was fun – I’ll try to make it this Friday.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Kyle’s grown up a lot, to be sure, but that doesn’t mean he’s worked past every insecurity yet.

  • Mary Klemzak

    *sounds of my heart breaking into pieces*

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Don’t worry! Spooky will fix it up again!

  • 1! Ah ah ah 1 Legendary V!!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      *lightning flashes and thunder rumbles in background*

    • 4 pages in and I got none yet. The horror! My ‘paws’ need to heal faster so I can hunt better. I’m way to slow for this right now xD

      • stickfigurefairytales

        And I need to start making it to camp on time (and not fall asleep before the new page is up)!

      • I was surprised to get this one, I wasn’t certain I would get any, but I was checking on my phone and suddenly the new page was there. I thought for certain no way, but I quickly typed in just in case..

  • Mary Klemzak

    Of course he’s immature. He’s a brand new adult. Hell, even full grown adults aren’t totally grown up. Give him time. We all mature at different rates.

  • bobbyjoeguy

    Has anyone else noticed in the third panel I think it should read “want *to* kiss you”. The tension is mounting, and the suspense is killing me.

    • davefragments

      It’s that way in the script that Alex wrote.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Interesting. I wonder if it was a typo there or just one of those new-fangled grammar things the kids these days seems to like.

        • I think error in the script.

        • Madock345

          I don’t think it is.

          -College student in cultural studies, generally tries to be up on this kind of thing

  • Madock345

    Oh goddammit no. Get back over there kyle you dramatic fuckwit. Sexy times now!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      On the one hand, I sympathize with the sentiment, but on the other, it’s much better for Kyle to talk this stuff out rather than let it fester and become a huge issue down the line.

      • Madock345

        I know you’re right -_-

        But I don’t have to be happy about it!

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Haha – granted!

  • Bei Dawei

    “Out of the ash I rise with my red hair And I eat men like air…”
    –Sylvia Plath

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I know Kyle has much more important things going on here, but it’s still bugging me that his shirt is buttoned all the way to the very top. That makes you look like a tool, Kyle.

    • Madock345

      It’s never the best look*, but I think here he’s got that tall, lean shape that makes it look as good as it can.

      *best look is no shirt, obviously.

  • unknownlight927

    In many ways, Kyle is still a virgin. And now he is embarking on a possible romance with one of his best friends and although many deny it, romance can change a friendship. So I am glad that he and Spooky seem to hashing it all out beforehand. But lets hope they make it fast so we can get to the REAL ACTION!! 🙂 🙂

    • Jim Philbrick

      Duncan would find it interesting calling Kyle a virgin… LOL

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Slightly further down I made a reply to DaveFragments about the literary need for Kyle to be expressing reservations at this point. Since not everybody is as heavily into the meta theory of structuring stories, I thought I’d be dryly over-literal and explain what I think the likely story structure is at this point.

    First up, this is a new story, and will be collected in a separate trade collection. This is important fact that we fans reading on the website may make us overlook because to us the publishing frequency makes everything run together into a more-or-less continuous narrative. For a new story (and any new readers) Alex needs to re-establish the characters and their relationships.

    Start the new story with an intriguing situation or mystery to get the reader hooked: Kyle and Spooky in a bedroom, with Kyle taking his shoes off. What is Spooky looking forward to? What does ‘being Spooky Jones’ mean?

    After the readers are hooked, then establish who the characters are. We’ve already had a few pages so far of Kyle explaining that Spooky is a top tier superhero, as well as some personal details like ‘a world class lover’ (arguably an important and evocative detail for a BL comic). And the pretext for that speech was Kyle being understanding about how incredibly busy Spooky is.

    And now I expect it’s time to learn about Kyle. One obvious choice is for Kyle to express a bit of insecurity about the control of his powers -which we know that until recently he hasn’t had full control of, and as a result has emotional issues with. Also, Kyle might not be fully sure about how Spooky feels about getting into a relationship with him. (The early pages of the coda have seeded ideas along these lines, ranging from Kyle’s observation that he and Spooky haven’t really had time to talk things out fully, through to Fluke’s observation that Spooky isn’t exactly a commitment type.) It may be that Kyle is fully confident in his powers but not fully confident that he can win over Spooky, and this might masked by Kyle saying he’s not fully confident in his control of his powers. Even for long time readers, the subtly between those two mysteries is something to keep us reading.

    In any case, this is the X-Men style angst that I emntioned. The characters can bring up of their personal doubts and insecurities, and that allows the writer various springboards for summarising the character and the status quo, or for a discussion between characters that allows for more explanations or even interpersonal drama. And as I’ve already indicated, this is so much more interesting that a “As you know, your father, the king…” style exposition dump.

    So for story telling reasons I would reasonably expect a short summary of Kyle’s backstory and hangups from burning his stepsister, his choice for self-imposed chastity, and recent change in status quo over the control of his powers. I would also reasonably expect new information about how much Spooky is into Kyle as a potential boyfriend.

    • Madock345

      This is a really excellent write-up, and I think you’re absolutely right.

      …Could have at least got his shirt off before the drama though. give us all a little eye candy in the meantime XD

    • Klaus

      It seems so obvious when explained. But I didn’t think of the print volume at all.

    • Biippa

      This is why I really enjoy reading your comments Saxon.

      When I was thinking about how this side story could go, it had more angst and fluff in my mind then smut. Maybe that’s cuz the fanfic I’m slowly writing about these two is primarily angst, but all things considered, both Kyle and Spoops have things about themselves that they really dislike, and those deeply rooted insecurities will always pop up and be horrid little plot bunnies in any realistic relationship. I mean, we don’t just magically forget our insecurities and bad memories just cuz we’re finally with our crush, do we? No. We don’t. Sometimes, that can actually make it worse and cause even more insecurities to appear. So I don’t expect anything but some good old fashioned traumatizing memory rehash, and some bonding over being people who have been through hard shit (pardon my language) and who really like each other, even if they’re only together for about a week.

      And maybe, hopefully, towards the end, a bit of smut. If there’s more smut than I am expecting, then that is beyond wonderful too, but I love this series because of the plot, not just cuz it’s hot guys who like to lick lamposts 😉

  • TwilightDreamer

    aaaww…Kyle sweetie <3

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Totally spaced camping tonight……have a few things on my mind…..and I just want part of it to be over!

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Maybe this is Kyle just going to the other room to get the fire extinguisher……can’t let a warm fuzzy moment like this end this way!

  • Curt Clark

    Yup. Definitely getting the X-Men vibes here. Kyle’s pulling a classic Rogue maneuver, pulling away so he doesn’t hurt other people, or get hurt himself.

    It makes sense that there’d be a dozen or so hangups. Now’s a terrific time for Spooky to be as Spooky as possible and walk him through those…

    …including the part where, yes, Spooky wants to bang Kyle becausse KYLE IS *BLEEP*ING SEXY, and not just as a magic experiment.

    • unknownlight927

      Definitely seeing the Rogue vibes, which is pretty ironic, considering she was at one point a love interest for Iceman, who recently came out as gay!!! 🙂

      • Biippa

        And in my elementary school years, when Disney had a little once a week thing that was like their version of a Toonami, with Shinzo and Digimon, they also showed one of the X-men cartoons and in that series, Rogue tried to date one of her teammates but as soon as they kissed, B L A M, his powers were gone. Whatever those powers were. I think they involved cards? I wanna say he liked cards.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          You’re probably thinking of Gambit. He had the power to charge objects with (kinetic? potential?) energy, causing them to explode, and he frequently used playing cards to do this.

          • Biippa

            Y E S that’s who it was! It was so sad when they kissed and she felt soooo bad. I really liked that cartoon. I miss it.

  • Klaus

    Spooky gives up on Kyle coming to the bed, and goes him, kneeling before his chair. Kyle flees.

  • Nate

    Spooky’s face in panel 5… 🙁

    I just want to give him a hug.

  • LimpBiskit

    Loving the story development, but… I just can’t get into the new style. It just doesn’t appeal to me, design wise. But either way, thanks so much for the hard work. 🙁

    • Adam will be back later on.

      • bandanajack

        good to hear, no diss intended to the current artist but the style shift is jarring. this feels more like josie and the pussy cat archie than lovingly muscled lycra suited kyle. i am embarrassed to admit the perv factor is strong in me… adam, come home !

  • Micha Johnson

    JUST FUCK ALREADY!

    • Klaus

      Funny, I had this picture in my head of Pintsize from Questionable Content reading Legendary and saying exactly this.

      • Jac

        Pintsize as a fan of The Young Protectors is now my QC headcanon.

  • Julia Barnes-Brown

    i actually squeed at my screen omg. this is too adorable (and a bit sad ;_; )

  • Jim Philbrick

    So I read this to think that Kyle is just going to see some quick safety thing so a few minutes later he and Spooky can start the kissing… HA

  • Karol Chmielewski

    it’s sooo cute 😀

  • davefragments

    What is going to be “Legendary” ?
    Maybe: The Kyle-Spooky night together? That usually only happens at the end of a long story. Like a Western where the hero rides off into a golden sunset.
    Slim pickings for a story, if you ask me.
    Maybe: Kyle blasting fire so bad that he incinerates the moon would be “legendary.’ Well, maybe just the ISS and not the Moon.
    Maybe: Spooky unleashing his inner demon? Perhaps that cute and adorable one who might want to create the new Disco craze? (sorry, that’s my buddy’s private hell. Gives him nightmares.) {hint: dave=blue meanie}…
    Maybe: an exorcism?
    Maybe: thwarting a bank robbery in their undies
    Maybe: a pub crawl?

    • unknownlight927

      My personal theory: Kyle and Spooky lying in bed together post sex and one of them utters the magic word: LEGENDARY!! 🙂

  • Jason Moon

    Kyle still seems to have some issues. While he come to grips(mostly) with the fact that he is gay, he seems hesitant to go into a relationship.

  • Aargh! Can’t Commander be in the room with them already not really though and link their minds so they’d know what they’re thinking and stop beating around the bush and hurting each other’s feelings?

  • Dennis Grace

    Teenagers can be so dense. FFS, Kyle, look in the boy’s eyes. Spooky’s look definitely does not say, “This is a test.”

  • purplefoxglove

    As much as I ship these two, I don’t think that they are going to have sex at this point of the story – for two reasons:
    1. Kyle clearly isn’t ready to hop into bed with Spooky just now, and
    2. the story just started, and Alex *never* just begins his stories with sex. There’s at least *some* interaction and development leading up to the horizontal tango.

    My guess is that we’ll have some more conversation which sets the scene, and then the two will be interrupted by some sort of emergency. I don’t actually expect them to have sex before chapter 3 – I would, however, be happy to be proven wrong (and, seeing as this is an © Alex Woolfson story, I am most likely miles off anyway).

  • Shiny Gwilly

    AW KYLE, BUT LOOK AT THAT SAD SPOOKY FACE
    but really though, i’m glad that Kyle has grown a lot due to what happened before, and also glad to see him still hesitating…he doesn’t want to hurt anyone else because of his desires, one way or another, and doing something like this with a friend just adds to that, he’s MORE hesitant because of how close he and Spooky are, so overall, i don’t blame him for not truly wanting to, well, jump right into bed with him
    Spooky better do the Spooky thing though to help Kyle along!

    • Klaus

      Yes. Exactly this.

    • Biippa

      YES! And even though Spooky does want it, he’s also trying to make sure Kyle is comfortable, which sadly can sometimes be taken out of context, like how Kyle misinterpreted it as “testing his control.” I think he knows deep down that Spoops would never do that to him but he’s still so insecure about the whole powers-and-sex stuff that it’s put a sort of negative haze over the forefront of his thoughts, one that Spoops will have to be careful with cuz sometimes, when people become guarded like that, it’s easier to accidentally push them away :/

      I have faith in my bebes though, they can get through this

  • bronakopdin

    Kyle is flustered ^^
    and Spooky more than straightforward x’D
    yet he really looks disappointed when Kyle “ran away” haha

  • Kyle, you should know better that it’s not about that for Spooks. But you’re scared so I’ll forgive that assumption (apologize to your hurt buddy though).

  • Nate

    Well, I wouldn’t mind going for “a hug… then a kiss… then…” either. But that comes later. 😉 First, we take away the sad. Then we make him feel better. 😀

  • Erika

    Wow. Really not a fan of the new “mouths on sides of faces” art. It’s distracting, makes characters all look like used car salesmen. Also not keen on how the characters now seem about 13. It’s queasy pedophilic.

    • Pietro7

      Yeah, I’m struggling with that aspect. There’s a pedophilic squickiness to Julie’s art that really bothers me. But she did a pretty good job with ‘Truth or Dare’, so I’m still reading. This story is worth the extra work of having to mentally impose Adam’s art inside my mind’s eye. I’m still supporting Alex via Patreon, too. Maybe Juie’s art will develop as she works through this chapter, and before the end the characters will seem mature again. I’m willing to hang in here and hope.

  • Rara Avis

    I liked the fact that spooky always was drawn as somewhat chubby or at least not cut and perfect like most of them and most male superheroes. No, I am not talking about the time he was bloated with souls. Before and after, he looked like a regular guy. It was refreshing in a genre full of overly muscular steroid types. I certainly like the fit bodies, as well (though prefer regular over gym bunnies), but it makes for a nice contrast to have different body types. However, the latest drawings are different. Have you changed artists? The art is not as good …Kyle looks like Archie from the old Archie comic, and they look more like underage kids. I agree with Erika on that. Not cool. I cannot tell if Spooky is still chubby. As you approach a sex scene with Kyle I hope you keep Spooky on the pudgy side with a regular guy’s body….one like the bodies of many guys who read comics or watch video games. A little body hair might make them seem more like adults. Just an idea.

    • Madock345

      This is the same artist who did the truth or dare bonus comic. You can go back to check how she draws (almost) naked spooky there, I definitely enjoyed it.

      • Klaus
        • Rara Avis

          Thanks for the link, Klaus. Yes, the little bit of body hair makes a difference in keeping the characters from looking underage. Also, on that page, in the shower scene, Spooky does look chunky, which is good. Sometimes he appears as chunky/muscular and others as chunky/pudgy. As I said, we have enough gym bunnies and bodybuilder types in comics….we need more of the regular types for contrast.

          I also thank everyone who pointed out that we have a guest artist. I rarely read more than the comic so I miss most of the notes and announcements. I prefer Adam’s art, but wish Julie well in her pursuits. I stand by my assertion that the characters sometimes look underage, more in her work than in Adam’s work. It is a common problem in Yaoi and is something that all Yaoi artists should be mindful of when drawing their characters, if there are/is sexual situations/content. It doesn’t matter if the writer SAYS the characters are 18, to get around it. If they look like kids, with no body hair/facial hair and adolescent builds, etc., (or have underage voices in animation) then it is still an issue.

          • Klaus

            Much yaoi is Asians drawn by Asians. Westerners often find the age of Asians hard to judge. During the Vietnam war, the US troops complained that they were being attacked by teenagers. When captured, many of those teenagers proved to be in their forties.

          • Rara Avis

            True, Klaus. Asian men can look very young, but in animation the characters are voiced by either women or very young guys in order to sound like a child whose voice hasn’t changed. There is no getting around the desired implication in those voices. With the drawing, the clothes and builds of the characters reinforce the underage impression. Also, you will notice that in much of the Yaoi gay works there is a dominant character who is clearly an adult, with a deep voice and tall, masculine, adult body (The Asian Yaoi artists have no trouble drawing adult characters when they want to do it} …and the submissive is small and childlike. I have seen it too many times to think it is an accident. With this recent story of Kyle and Spooky, they are at least both close to the same age…but their conversation about sex sounds like something between two kids, not two young adults. It is something that we should guard against. A little tweaking with the art and the dialogue can go a long way toward making it clear these are adults.

          • Klaus

            I have never actually seen any yaoi animation. To me it seems that the conversation reflects Kyle’s lack of experience more than his age.

          • Rara Avis

            There may be a delay in posting comments due to authorization, but I don’t see my reply to you and it has been an hour. So, at the risk of posting a double reply, I’ll type it again.

            Yes, Asians can look much younger than their actual age and sometimes don’t have much body hair even as adults (but they DO have pubes and underarm hair), but that does not explain much of what I have seen. In animation, the voices of young male characters in sexual situations are often voiced by either women or very young males, and they sound underage…their voices haven’t changed. In other words, they are adolescents…or intended to sound like it. I have had Asian boyfriends, and yes, they can seem young, but their voices still had changed after puberty into adult voices.

            I have noticed that in many Yaoi gay works there is a dominant male who is drawn as clearly adult….deep voice, tall, muscular build. Asian artists have no trouble drawing larger, more adult/masculine characters that are clearly adults, when they want to. The submissive is often much smaller, with a childish build and with an underage voice (if animated). I have seen it too often for it to be a coincidence. The implication is clear and it bothers me. I enjoy erotic comics, but feel uncomfortable if I sense that the artist/writer is dancing around what would appeal to a pedophile.

            In the case of the Kyle and Spooky story, their conversation about sex feels more like something between two kids, not two young adults…and the artwork helps to add to that impression.

            A little tweaking with the art and the dialogue would help to create a feeling that these guys are college age, not high school.

          • Rara Avis

            Klaus, twice now my reply to you has been posted and then disappeared. Perhaps I am using a “forbidden” word that triggers some kind of automatic censor? My post was very much in line with our conversation, above, and contained nothing offensive. I’ll try one more time. Forgive me if you end up with three similar replies tomorrow, ha ha.

            Yes, Asians can look much younger than their actual age. However, that doesn’t explain away the problems I have with some Yaoi. For instance, when animated, the voices of the young males, who may or may not be stated to be adults, are often voiced by either women or very young males who make the character sound like their voices have not changed yet. I have had Asian boyfriends and at least one did look very young (though he had facial hair), but their voices certainly had changed into deeper adult voices. I have noticed that often gay Yaoi works will have a dominant male character who is drawn clearly as an adult, with a deep voice and tall, muscular build, and with body and facial hair. Asian artists don’t have trouble drawing an adult male when they want to. The submissive is often much smaller, with a childish voice and a petite boyish (or girlish) body. The intended impression is clear and it troubles me. I enjoy erotic comics, but an uncomfortable with this aspect of some of the works.

            Why is it that most of the Young Protectors have ZERO facial hair? No stubble. No goatee (very much in style among young adults). Nothing. The conversation between Kyle and Spooky about sex sounds more middle school than college. Add to that Julie’s drawing style/choices for these characters, and you get readers like Erica and myself who have a concern.

            Just a little tweaking with the art and the dialogue would help a lot with portraying these characters as college kids, instead of younger.

          • Klaus

            I forgot in my first reply: Thank you for the info.

    • davefragments

      The “Truth or Dare” chapter of “Engaging the Enemy” (which Julie Wright did the linework for) begins with this page and continues for 26 pages.
      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-tod-page-1/

  • William Clapie

    A question? The art style and quality seems to have changed quite a bit. I still appreciate what you are doing with the stories but I am a tad disappointed with the artwork. Just one mans opinion Alex.

    • davefragments

      In the message accompanying the last page of “Engaging the Enemy,”
      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-coda-page-16/
      Alex explained that Adam DeKraker requested a time off from the twice a week creation of thumbnails and linework (pencils). LEGENDARY will be three chapters. For the first Chapter, Alex engaged Julie Wright to do the linework. Julie previously did the linework for the “Truth or Dare” chapter of “Engaging the Enemy.”
      You can see that chapter here:
      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-tod-page-1/
      Adam will be back for chapters 2 and 3.

      • Adding to Dave’s comment; She also made the art for the shorter Interlude 2 bonus comic while Adam earlier had a short break, and she did a great job with that as well http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/interlude2-title-page/

        It’s not easy to temporarily taking over a comic that isn’t ‘yours’, getting back to another drawing style, as we’re so used to Adam’s style – taking up not only characters she aren’t used to drawing, but also adding what readers ‘expect’ of the characters into her own style.
        It’s quite different from Adam’s style, yes (and I *love* Adam’s art), but I think Julie has shown before that she can do great work 🙂

        • William Clapie

          YES! “used to Adams style”. That may just be it.

      • William Clapie

        I didn’t see the notice about the change in artists. my bad. I don’t always read the details, I just like the idea of the comic. The “Truth or dare” chapter looks better I think. Again, just my opinion. It’s all good in the end. NO that is not a pun!

        • davefragments

          I suspect that you aren’t alone in not reading Alex’s notes that sit below the pages. That doesn’t seem odd or unusual the me at all.

          • William Clapie

            I do “scan” the messages. Most seem to be generalized and Alex saying “thank you” to his supporters. PS, Alex? NP! I admit I do not always read them in detail but check the info on supporters. I would like to see a steady stream of income for this fellow!

    • Biippa

      As someone who knows how much of a pain it is to try to make your own artwork look similar enough to someone else’s in order to please a certain fanbase – It’s kinda sorta a big case of “you know what, screw it, I was asked to do these pages and I’m doing them my way so people can get over it.” Never expect a guest artist, or any change in artists in general, to keep the same style.

      On the other hand, this is temporary, so if you really don’t like it, you can just wait until Adam returns, buuuut you would miss out on quality content 🙂

      • William Clapie

        I’m not sure but I think I have just been insulted. I didn’t call it out and say it was “bad” art. I said the quality had changed. That is just my opinion, nothing more.

        • Biippa

          Nah, didn’t intend to insult. Sorry it seemed that way.

  • Jac

    So nervous!

  • Nate

    Regarding the art… Julie’s changed her style up a bit since she did “Truth or Dare”, and I’m not really sure I like it. The issue for me isn’t their apparent ages, but the way she does mouths & noses. I mean, that “side mouth” is just weird, and Spooky looks like a Chuck Jones character in spots.

    Compare and contrast to this page:

    http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-tod-page-10/

    In particular, the way she draws Spooks in profile in the last panel. It’s really quite different.

    (The coloring is different too. Is that a conscious choice, Alex?)

    Still, cute boys who don’t know they are in love, yet. What could be better? 😉

    • For Julie Wright’s previous guest artist work on this comic, she handled all the art, linework through colors. For this “Legendary” arc, The Young Protectors linework artist Adam DeKraker requested a break for the first chapter—which is why I reached out to Julie—but our colorist, Veronica Gandini, did not want a break, and I very much wanted to continue our work with Vero. So Vero is continuing her coloring responsibilities and contributing her awesome talents for this chapter, just with Julie’s linework.

      (And, of course, Vero will resume coloring Adam’s work with Chapter 2 of “Legendary” and beyond. 🙂 )

  • Biippa

    Y E A H
    So I had to get a new phone, which sucked like half of what I had left in my bank but it’s a really nice phone, but I started a new job last week so I finally am out of the jobless-failure-slump-dump, and to top that all off, my happpily anticipated Spyle has begun! Spyle? Kooky? Idek. Ship names can be so awkward but my brain makes them automatically now if it can fit the two names together, whoops.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      You know, I normally don’t concern myself with the names of character ships, but it just occurred to me that ‘Sprot’ is so obnoxiously bad that I may have to adopt it for trolling purposes 🙂

      • Pietro7

        Okay Saxon, my brain is simply not working. Who are the components of ‘Sprot’?

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Spooky + Red Hot, I believe.

          • Pietro7

            D’oh! (headslap)
            Thanks, Sticky.

          • I didn’t get it either, but now it’s obvious.

      • Biippa

        Oml xD I’m gonna have to use Sprot now. In fact, I just did, and my dad’s response was to say “if you want sprite that badly, go buy some”

        R i p Sprot

  • ShaSha

    I want to talk but the art in other aspect. I think the most jarring thing about the change is everything is smaller. I used to be able to read text from my phone with no problem but now I have to make them bigger.
    And all the characters are drawn smaller. Like this room feels freaking big and tall, towering on two little kids.
    I think this is some of the reason why people are complaining about them too young. Like that door on first panel is way taller and bigget than spooky(adult) and still going.
    There are a many wasted spaces that the artist could use to make speech bunble and character bigger or use tighter shot and everything seem so empty and small to me:(
    I really love the art style but overall structure is where my complaint is at

  • davefragments

    Hello Campers,
    How’s it going with you? Last night, I watched “Wonder Woman” and liked it. I’m also listening to a multi-part YOUTUBE of Deryck Cooke’s analysis of the musical themes in “Der Ring Des Nibelung.” So that’s been my past few days.

    • Doki is tired and headachey.

      • davefragments

        Then it’s a good night for a relaxing camp out

        • might take ibuprofin and/or melotonin and pass out, or at least try to…

          • davefragments

            I did that night before last and slept until 10:30am the next day.

          • sounds nice

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Poor Doki! I hope you get a good night’s sleep.

    • Pietro7

      Trying to regain normal use of both arms – strained my right shoulder and typing has been difficult for days. 🙁
      But tonight I have a wedge of store-bought chocolate cheesecake to console me. 🙂

      • davefragments

        Chocolate cheesecake cures lots of problems
        😉

      • My store sometimes has pumpkin cheesecake and it is divine.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Oooh!

    • I am okay! Spending the weekend with my boyfriend at his family’s lake house! It’s been nice and relaxing!

      • davefragments

        Sounds good — fresh air and a warm body.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Nice!

    • Feeling a bit meh. The head isn’t helping either. Can’t wait for summer to be over, or at least this last heat wave to break.

      • davefragments

        This area barely broke 70° today. I turned the heat on for tonight.
        The weather is stupid and demented

        • I thought a week ago it might be an early fall here, but oh no!! Damn weather.

          • davefragments

            It’s the oceans and the Jet Stream.

          • They can just their act together, cease dilly dallying!! lol

          • Biippa

            Here it gets up to the 80s on a mild summer day so I feel ya.

          • Should I ask what’s not mild??

            I’d be so happy for that right now… Well not right now now. It’s 83 at almost 9 at night. But during the day… I’d be ecstatic.

          • 83.. I don’t think it’s hit that even once in my part of Denmark here this crappy summer.

          • I know that would be really tough for you guys there.

          • I would have liked for it to be just 80 at least for a couple days, maybe even in a row. Is that too much to ask for a summer? Apparently of this summer. I’ve come to enjoy if we get a few sunny days in a row, around 70-75 and not a drop from a skye. That is amazing these days.

          • This summer has just been awful. It started early and just doesn’t want to go away.

          • Stupid weather this year, and if El Ninõ is to blame for it being even more extreme, it might continue next year. They say there’s a risk of that hitting two years in a row this time which is highly unusual. Normally it occurs with 2-7 years in between.

          • I don’t know if it is or not. It just has sucked. Our neighbor who’s been here around 30 yrs said she doesnt remember a summer like this here. But she doesn’t always have the best memory. So who knows. It could be El Nino. It could be global warming. it just sucks

          • El Ninõ on top of global warming.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Poor AJ! I hope your head feels better soon…and that the weather cools down for you.

        • Thanks Stick! I always look forward to the end of summer, but this one’s been brutal. The nights have hardly cooled, which doesn’t help the house cool. Bah!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            DX

    • Biippa

      Doing fairly well, which is rare, and actually feeling like I can sorta socialize lately, which is even more rare. But my new job makes me hurt everywhere and I somehow pulled a hamstring and so that has been causing me problems since it’s on the side I sleep on :/ Other than that, I’m surprisingly well.

      • davefragments

        That sounds good. Just work slightly less hard — don’t pull muscles and hamstrings

        • Biippa

          I’ll try not to, I don’t like hurting every time I get in and out of bed, or my car, or the shower. Or hurting when I drop something and have to pick it up. Know any pick-up methods that won’t stretch the thigh so much?

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Aw, I’m sorry that you’re hurting, Biippa! But I’m glad that you’re doing well in other respects.

        • Biippa

          Thanks! I’ll be fine once I get used to having a job that keeps me on my feet, and the thigh will eventually stop hurting with every movement haha

          I hope

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Getting ready for moving next week! Just a few blocks away from where I am currently, but I have a lot of packing yet to do.

      • davefragments

        I live in dread of ever moving. Just the thought of packing it all makes me queasy.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          It is definitely a challenge. I finally finished packing all of my books – 50 boxes in all.

          • davefragments

            I had the house painted last fall and had to pack all my books. 50 boxes was not enough for all of them. And I’ve bought more books since.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            It’s tough to constrain book collections. It really is.

          • davefragments

            Nicholas Basbanes called it “A Gentle Madness”

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I remember reading Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography in school, and he decided to become a vegetarian as a young man because not buying meat meant that he could afford more books.

        • When I last moved 9 years ago, I was firmly informed that if I moved somewhere within the next 2-4 years (and a place without an elevator again), I should call someone else to help carry (book-) boxes and shelves xD
          Next time I move they will take a window off it’s henges and use a life for everything that fits through window *lol*

          • davefragments

            If I ever move, I will pay people to pack it and move it all, everything.

        • The thought of moving…shudder. I hate moving. I have such anxiety over it, there are still boxes packed from the last time.

          • davefragments

            My house has no basement or attic. That’s a great incentive not to buy too much or accumulate things.

          • After moving three times between 2009 and 2011 our stuff has been pared down, a lot. Books are hard not to accumulate no matter how hard I try, but if I had to move, there are a lot of them still in their boxes. Still the thought of having to move…ugh.

          • davefragments

            I’m too comfortable here. I had the house built exactly as I need and want it.

          • Then I’d have to be dragged out by a team of 20 draft horses.

          • Three times! *shudder*

          • Oh yeah. Nightmare stuff. We’ve been here 6yrs. The anxiety is definitely still there.

  • ShaSha

    I never saw camping in real life! And I just got my account yay

    • davefragments

      Welcome

      • ShaSha

        Thank you :E

    • Pietro7

      Welcome. Pull up a chair by the campfire and admire the starry sky while we wait for the New Page – yay!

      • ShaSha

        I will. the night is even more beautiful with a autumn wind blowing:)

    • Welcome!

      • ShaSha

        Thank you ><

    • Welcome to the camp grounds, ShaSha! Glad to have ya around!

      • ShaSha

        Thank you for welcoming me! Everybody is so nice here. I feel so loved~

        • I mean I don’t mean to brag but we’re pretty great.
          I firmly believe this is the best community on the internet. 😛

          • ShaSha

            I think so too xd. It’s so cozy and nice

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Welcome, ShaSha! Glad to have you!

    • Welcome to comments and camping.

    • Welcome, welcome!!

  • Hiya.
    Enjoying my vacation, but it’s going by so fast. Having had half my days booked from morning vil late evening means time fly. I was almost surprised it was already time to camp again tonight.

    Hands/wrist update. Still not great, but lesser pain in general (when not using them much) so currently going forward. Just crossing my fingers that it won’t get bad again once I return to work after next week.

    • Pietro7

      Sending healing energy to our Wolf.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Sending you good wishes!

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I think I’m starting to fade… May have to bow out unless the page goes up pretty soon.

    • Pietro7

      Me too, unfortunately. See you all on the new page tomorrow. 🙁

  • Bei Dawei

    We need a new Spooky cap showing the cartoon-within-a-cartoon version of him deflowering a figure representing Kyle.

    • davefragments

      Alex once considered a Kyle body pillow

      • Bei Dawei

        You should see what the MLP:FIM people have been selling. It’s horrifying.

        • davefragments

          I just went and looked at RedBubble and I must remind you that Pittsburgh (my city) is still very much a Steel Town with Steel Workers.

  • Bei Dawei

    Why does Kyle’s demon-fire come out of his hands, instead of one of his bodily orifices? Come to think of it, we’ve never seen him go full Human Torch, even when he was turning into a demon.

  • Bei Dawei

    (Can never remember what the deal is with US Daylight Savings Time)

    • Which part?

      • Bei Dawei

        It’s like this: I always check the site around noon. Usually there’s some wait (“camping”), but last week or the week before, the page had already been up for 20 minutes. So I figured it must be Daylight Savings Time in the USA. (Somebody will probably inform me that I’ve got the earth rotating in the wrong direction.)

        • DLS starts March or April and ends the beginning of Nov. Somedays Alex just gets the page up earlier than others.

          • Bei Dawei

            Oh. Thanks! And never mind, there’s the page now.

    • I just know it messes with my camping for 1-3 weeks twice a year, because it doesn’t match with when EU change the time. And because US change earlier in summer and later in winter, it is always earlier the camp starts. Luckily it’s mostly only been a 1-2 weeks it’s different. The three weeks aren’t that often. On a rare occation the winter date might even be the same, but often it’s only a week. Summertime is the 2-3 weeks.

      • Doki still thinks Daylight Saving should be axed.

        • Living somewhere where the length of daylight changes all year around I like it. Otherwise the sun would be up before 3am in the middle of summer, and going down before 3pm in middle of winter.

          • Eh, I guess it would make sense, but here I honestly don’t see what the point is anymore. (DST is something Doki is completely done with at this point – more hassle than it is worth)

  • Page should be up shortly… 🙂

  • davefragments