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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Truth or Dare—Page 14

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Looks like Flyboy prefers black leather for his nocturnal transgressions…

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So! We’ve learned a bit more about Flyboy’s moonlighting. Is it okay that he’s doing what he’s doing? And has anyone ever gotten hurt?

Tune in this Saturday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

  • DC

    Well I would be doing just the same Mitch, if I could!

    • davefragments

      congratulation on the first

      • DC

        Thanks. Was that go guys on the previous page a hint?

        • davefragments

          no

    • Same here! If I had his abilities I’d doing what I could to help people.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Hey, congratulations!

  • Oh FFS Tsunami!

    • David Welbourn

      Tsunami asked a follow-up question! Tsk, tsk, tsk.

  • Alt+F7

    I’m so torn because Mitch is helping people, surely it is a good thing to help people, but Tsunami is right, if you’re all enthusiasm and no training you could make things worse or get yourself into a situation you’re not prepared for, and doing it in secret means no back up is on hand.

    Also, I love the Tsunami pin up, the background just rounds it off incredibly well.

    • dee gee

      i agree.

    • Terri Sutton

      If Flyboy isn’t trained then why is he on the Young Protectors? Why is he allowed to partake in YP missions if he is untrained?

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I feel like there’s a difference between having the training to be a junior member of a team and having the training to go up against criminals entirely on your own, though.

        • Terri Sutton

          Though with what we have seen of his work with the YP how much training do you really need for stay out of reach, out of sight and just look at things hard.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Also true. Well, he does fly a plane. And sometimes a car.

          • Terri Sutton

            The car was technically unofficial.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Okay. But he saved a baby that was thrown out of a burning building!

          • Terri Sutton

            Because he was outside watching very hard.

          • timemonkey

            That was against literally the two biggest most dangerous villains on the planet. During a large group battle where being aware of the area was an absolute necessity to even have a chance.

          • Which probably makes him strain at the restrictions even more.

          • Terri Sutton

            A teenager feels that he is being handheld far too often and as a result has gone vigilante. Lets put him on this team, continue to engage in handholding behaviour and he definitely won’t go vigilante again.

          • Oh no definitely not. 😐

            But I do wonder if Tsu wasn’t prone to such harsh outbursts when things either take him by surprise or he disagrees with it, if Mitch might not have been so secretive? It’s possible he would be because they do keep making him stand/sit/wait on the outside of 99% of the time.

      • timemonkey

        Because that’s him getting trained. He functions in specific circumstances with adult supervision.

      • Alt+F7

        TYP is a junior hero team, I assumed it was a sort of “on the job training” for future hereos, and that said they always perform missions as a team, with Commander there to co-ordinate everyone telepathically.

        There’s a world of difference between a co-ordinated team with a strong leader taking on a challenge and the youngest member going it alone and in secret.

        I don’t think he’s wrong to help people in his spare time, but I do think doing it in secret is dangerous.

        IMO it shows there needs to be some more outlet for willing young heroes, possibly sort of like the volunteer fire service, so there’s always a supervising leader, even if your primary team is not “on call” at that time.

        • Terri Sutton

          ^ This, this so damn much!

        • timemonkey

          There might be other outlets, remember this team was put together out of the rejects of the other options.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I don’t know – the fact that Mitch got kicked off his previous team for helping people off hours suggests to me that there aren’t such options available.

          • timemonkey

            You need training before you can properly help people. If you won’t sit through the training before acting then you shouldn’t be doing it at all. Nobody’s ever going to support the ‘Let underaged super powered kids randomly throw themselves into danger because it makes them feel better and they’re too immature to understand why they need to be patient’ team.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            This reminds me of when I did EMT training and they were teaching us why we had to wait until a scene was declared safe before we could go in to help people. In the movies it’s a fine idea to dart in heroically, dodging bullets to patch up a wounded comrade, but realistically, if you get yourself hurt then you’ve just decreased the number of trained people available to help while increasing the number of patients.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            It was a tough thing to accept when you have a strong desire to help people, but you have to do all that you can to not make the situation worse.

          • Terri Sutton

            That feels so horrible.

            “Us superheroes work Monday to Friday, 9 am to 5 pm. If you are in trouble outside of office hours, tough shit for you.”

          • timemonkey

            No, it means the underage, untrained intern is only supposed to work those hours. How is that a difficult concept to grasp?
            When a kid wants to be a cop you don’t slap cuffs and a gun in the hands and throw them at the criminals just because they want to help. You make them learn how and demonstrate that they’re responsible enough to be able to do the job and be trusted with the safety of others.

          • Terri Sutton

            So you are saying that an emergency response team (like the Young Protectors) don’t have trainees on their teams?

          • timemonkey

            Do they let the trainies do all the work independently? No. They work under supervision from trained professionals and do exactly what they’re told and no more until they earn the right to do more.

          • Terri Sutton

            But an emergency response team that works outside of business hours, would be exactly that, “a team”. There would a supervisor who would oversee the training and safety of the younger members.

          • timemonkey

            There likely are teams ready to do emergency, available at all hours work. It’s just not what they put the kids on.

          • Alt+F7

            That is true, I did not think of that. Though, as stickfigurefairytales suggests, maybe those options do not exist as this behaviour is what got mitch kicked off his last team. I am also just now realising how having parts of your team be potentially in the middle of helping someone elsewhere, could stop you from being able to properly respond to a bigger threat that comes up

      • This plays into my thought that Kyle and Mitch push for a change of the rules in society–to accommodate for their unique abilities, training, and experience.

  • dee gee

    mitch at least seems to be selective in chosing the ways in which he helps others. thats good.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Yeah – it’s nice to see that he’s not trying to beat up gigantic criminals or anything on his own.

  • It looks like he’s just pulling those in danger out of danger, not actually confronting anyone.

    Honestly, Gordon, that is one large stick up your ass. Someone please pull it out and whack him once or twice with it. Or, you know, someone tell him to zip it. Who’s never thought of helping someone when they had the ability to do so??

    • stickfigurefairytales

      He is not getting invited to this week’s karaoke night. Or at least he wouldn’t be if they remembered this.

      • DC

        Ha, but Tsu needs to be invited so he can have some fun and hopefully lighten up a bit, get some of that stress out of him 🙂

        • stickfigurefairytales

          *mutters* As long as he doesn’t try to lecture everybody about their choices in songs…

          • Terri Sutton

            All we need is for one of the underage members to choose the song “I Touch Myself” by the Divinyls and all bets are off.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ha!

        • I just worry that he doesn’t know how to relax.

          • DC

            I think most people have something that helps them relax, we haven’t seen what yet for Tsu. Maybe he works of stress in the gym.

          • Swimming laps maybe?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I could see that. And/or weightlifting. The guy is seriously built.

      • Oh indeed not. Another lost mailing. 😀

    • timemonkey

      That first thing he’s doing? He’s stealing a car being driven by robbers. That’s not helping people, that sabatoging the escape after the harm’s been done.

      • davefragments

        The driver is still in the car phreaking out.

        • timemonkey

          I know, which is also why it’s a bad idea.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Although I do feel like it’s an interesting method of stopping the robbers from getting away without relying on physically overpowering them.

        • timemonkey

          Yes. But it also makes the stranded ones desperate and more likely to have to shoot their way out.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Hmm, that’s a fair point.

      • actually, the person in the front seat appears to be a hostage and he’s actually rescuing that person.

        Never mind I didn’t see that his hands were free

        • stickfigurefairytales

          I was thinking they were one of the robbers because of the bandana they were wearing over their face, myself.

          • No you’re right. I just edited my comment. I at first thought he was gagged, then I realized his hands were free.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ah, cool.

  • Terri Sutton

    Why do I get the feeling that no matter what Flyboy said Flipper would have used anything as an excuse to piss on Flyboy’s parade without realising that he is essentially pissing in the wind.

    • timemonkey

      Because Mitch isn’t doing the right thing so nothing he says justifies it?

      • Terri Sutton

        There is a difference between yelling at someone who is doing something wrong and you want them to quit that behaviour and yelling at someone for the sake of yelling at someone to make yourself feel better because you have “done something about it”.

        Flipper’s interaction with Flyboy in this scene does not read as a constructive corrective “talking to”.

        • timemonkey

          That’s because this is an instinctual ‘are you crazy you could have been hurt’ reaction most legal guardians would have if they found out their kids were sneaking out at night to do something illegal and dangerous. Then he switches into worst case scenario mode with the ‘have you hurt anyone’ question. Whole thing feels pretty natural to me.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          I agree with you that Gordon’s yelling is not constructive here, but I don’t feel like his motivations have been conclusively established. It is very possible for someone to be motivated by genuine concern for another but be total crap in how they go about expressing that concern and/or attempting to get the person to modify their behavior.

          • Terri Sutton

            Then if he is so shit at dealing with people one must ask why is he SOC of the YP and why is he the legal guardian of the underage members.

            This is a personality flaw that did not crop up overnight.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            He isn’t the sole legal guardian – Gordon said “we” when he established that, which to me suggests that it’s probably the team leaders (him and Amanda, maybe also Spooky?) who have that role – possibly in the same way that teachers stand in loco parentis for students while they are at school (particularly since Paul seems to have parents that he lives with).

          • Eve

            I thought previously they said specifically that Amanda and Gordon were the kids’ legal guardians?

          • It was said, and they are.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ah yes, you’re right! – page 38 of chapter 3.

          • timemonkey

            Because he and the Commander were the only ones old enough?

          • Terri Sutton

            Spooky is also of age.

          • timemonkey

            But was he when all the paper work was done? And would he be considered stable enough to be a legal guardian after his stint in Hell and after all other magic users have gone insane?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Spooky probably was too, but maybe his legal status is iffy on account of being a magic user.

          • Foelhe

            I’m trying to think of a single parent I know that wouldn’t hit the roof if they found out their kids were sneaking out to fight crime. Freaking out and yelling because your ward is putting himself in danger is a reasonable response. Not the best response, but reasonable.

          • Terri Sutton

            But Gordon isn’t Flyboy’s father, he is a government assigned guardian, and people who sign up to foster kids get put under a severe microscope. Those with anger problems or even a little hot-headedness is a breaking point (at least in my country).

          • This shows Gordon’s essential humanity. Human beings screw up. Human beings can mean only the best and yet their behavior is destructive. Gordon, however, is in a position of authority within the command structure. He should have training about how to more appropriately address this issue. Does anyone see Amanda or Spooky acting out like Gordon?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            True, but the team seems to be a very ad hoc organization – it’s a ragtag band of misfits, essentially, so there isn’t a lot of formalized training or support. It’s just them. I agree that Gordon needs to find a better way to manage his temper and deal with how he reacts to things, but I think it’s unrealistic to expect that he’d have access to training for that at this point in time. I definitely agree with you about this flaw being a good demonstration of Gordon’s humanity (and thus fallibility).

          • Amanda certainly has this training and she is a telepath. She must have maturity and discipline beyond her age in order to have and to use her power. Could she not train Gordon how to handle discipline issues with the younger members?

          • Terri Sutton

            Would Gordon listen to her?

          • What do you think Amanda would do to him if he didn’t?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I would hope so, but maybe it’s an ongoing issue that she’s trying to work with him on. (Also it probably isn’t every day that he finds out about something this big.)

          • I like the idea that this might be an ongoing issue, that most of the time he performs his responsibilities appropriately. It might explain why the team is more apt to cut him slack.

          • Eve

            You can’t train a temper out of someone.

          • davefragments

            But you can teach patience and lack of immediate action. However, being a learned action, it might not work in in this situation.

          • It is possible to train someone how to better manage his temper. If so then clearly Gordon has far to go.

          • timemonkey

            Yeah, he doesn’t seem to be good at the whole, expressing anger, disappointment and worry in constructive ways thing. His reaction to what happened to Kyle wasn’t exactly the best either. Seems to be an ongoing character flaw.

    • Jason Wexler

      And if memory serves (and it didn’t the last time I tried to make a comment like this), no one is going to remember any of this “tomorrow” anyway, so it’s not like yelling at him will make a difference.

      • I wonder if he’ll remember the feelings despite not remembering what brought them on.

        • Terri Sutton

          That sounds like it could be worse, because I doubt that Gordon has the self-discipline to keep that to himself (if no-one remembers than they would just see Gordon being unreasonable) or have the maturity to go to Amanda with this.

          • I was thinking more about the kids feeling not happy towards Gordon.

          • Terri Sutton

            Why would those feelings be more likely to stick when Flipper’s reaction seem to indicate he is feeling this more intensely.

          • Because sometimes the one being yelled at remembers things more than the yeller.

            Of course, Gordon seems to always been yelling about something, so it just might not flick the meter. It was just a thought recalling Mitch’s reaction to him on the plane. Granted we don’t know how often Gordon jumps on the boys, so that resentment may have already been simmering long before this.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I’m just imagining Gordon feeling unaccountably angry but he isn’t sure why. However, this is pretty much how he usually feels so he doesn’t notice any difference.

          • That crossed my mind too. He’s always in such a mood, so what’s so different? But the other boys…maybe differently

          • Terri Sutton

            Yeah the Tsunami – Flyboy relationship does seem to be building towards cause this particular house of cards tumbling down sometime in the future.

          • Yup..

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I love how Mitch’s solution to the robbery was to steal their getaway car with all the loot (and the driver).

    • Terri Sutton

      I hope he deposited it at a nearby police station.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I feel like that seems very plausible.

        • That’s what I would have done. ^_^

          • Well that settles it then – if Doki would’ve, clearly it’s what Mitch would’ve done too. 😉

  • Matt Lohkamp

    sounds like Tsunami has hurt someone. :

  • davefragments

    I do like Mitch’s logic and the “mind pictures” or “flashback”.
    He being more sophisticated and responsible than he first seemed. That’s good.
    But he is still too young to do these things.

    • By what standard? If you mean by the standards of normal humanity then I must point out that Mitch did not belong to that club the second his powers became active. Once one mutates or changes in some significant way then it becomes reasonable to set a new benchmark for that individual.

      Amanda possessed adult maturity and discipline at a young age as did Spooky. They were able to lead their lives and you might note, they are not as vocal in their opposition as Gordon.

      • davefragments

        Just my first thoughts. Maybe tomorrow, I’ll change my mind.

        • One thing is for sure, this debate has the fandom engaged! I’m pleased to see it.

          • davefragments

            Yes they are. Mitch seems to inspire adulation and Tsunami seems to inspire the opposite.

      • Jason Wexler

        I agree, by most historical standards, Mitch is an adult and well beyond the age where he would have been commanding troops in a military setting, given the right social class (and I suspect super powers would put him in that class regardless). I don’t get the standard outrage about young people growing up. What Superheroes do is intrinsically dangerous, to oneself and those around them, and that is true at birth and at any age after. If the important thing is for him to learn the responsible and safe use of his powers as a member of a teen team, then he has to actually use them in real situations where they would be of benefit, a glorified baby sitting service is probably worse than nothing.

        • Terri Sutton

          Your comment immediately reminded me of the story of the first emperor of Cao Wei, Cao Pi first entered battle at the age of 10.

          • Jason Wexler

            And there I go showing off my Eurocentrism and the lack of any real exposure to Asian history from modern American curriculum… all of my examples were Romans and Medieval French and English nobles. What’s worse is I just recently finished my first book of Chinese history and I know how often people we would consider “kids” were engaging in military acts in China.

          • Terri Sutton

            The first emperor of Eastern Wu, Sun Quan was made a county magistrate at the age of 14, so it wasn’t only being sent into battle. Back then as soon as you started puberty you were no longer a child but an adult and were treated as such.

          • Jason Wexler

            Boy imagine what it will be like for our putative grandchildren when they are shocked to learn what we allowed people to do at age 18 or 21… heck, given my hopes for the future of self driving cars they may be apoplectic at the thought that we let 16 year-olds of all things “drive”.

          • Terri Sutton

            I am personally shocked at the idea of letting 16 yr olds drive. But then again I am a 30 yr old fuddy duddy who has never learnt to drive.

          • Jason Wexler

            I can certainly understand that.

          • davefragments

            For all her 92 years, my Mother drove ONCE in her life – – hooked bumpers with another car and never drove again.

          • That Guy

            I didn’t get my license until I was 21 (for various reasons) and looking back…yeah, I’m glad I wasn’t given one when I was young enough to make even more life threatening mistakes.

    • Danny

      I agree with you, and frankly, I think I might have an idea of where Gordon’s coming from. Mitch is risking his safety and the safety of those he rescues due to lack of training and lack of planning in his rescues. As far as Gordon goes, we have an inkling that something has soured his outlook on his own powers, and it may stem from something like this. Clearly, Mitch acting the young vigilante hits close to home, and I can’t help but wonder if Gordon hurt someone while using his powers with the intent to save the person.

      EDIT: Just as a disclaimer, Matt Lohkamp and a few others have already said this, which I noticed after I scrolled down. Oops.

      • davefragments

        I hadn’t thought of it that way.
        That’s intriguing.

        • Danny

          I’m glad it makes sense. So far, we haven’t really gotten an explanation regarding Gordon’s over-protectiveness and hypersensitivity toward the younger members of the team, and I’m trying to figure him out. Knowing Alex, there’s got to be a good reason for Gordon’s responses, and not all of it is because he likes to rain on everyone’s parade. He’s the straight-laced pessimist to balance out Spooky’s cavalier optimism (both of which I think could be useful to Amanda as team lead), but that’s not the whole story. Hence, perhaps personal failure when younger that made him ineligible for the “real” adult teams is the cause.

          • davefragments

            He hasn’t done the “truth or dare” yet so maybe we will find out.

          • Danny

            True! It will be interesting to find out what question he must answer and who will be the person asking it.

  • Mary Klemzak

    I’m proud of him! To hell with rules!

    Yes he could get backup, but hey he’s young and full of spirit!

    Better than doing nothing when he can easily do something and help other human beings.

    Ugh I’m so done!

  • DC

    Mitch does look stylish and sleek in his leather outfit.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I know, right? The black and blue color scheme gives off a nice “cool and mysterious” vibe.

    • Terri Sutton

      What do you think this black leather-clad alter ego of Flyboy would be called?

      • DC

        I’m not sure. The words night, savior, guardian, angel, flight, all come to mind. Night Savior maybe.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Night Owl!

          • Terri Sutton

            Nite Owl is copyrighted, that is if Watchmen exist in this universe.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            But, but different spelling!

          • Terri Sutton

            Copyright law cane include different spellings if it creates consumer confusion.

          • NyteOwl?? 😀

          • I like that spelling!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Hmm, that brings up some really interesting issues when talking about a world that has both real and fictitious superheroes.

          • DC

            How about Knight Owl?

          • davefragments

            That’s a nerd with horn rims and a slight potbelly

      • Night Flight!

      • Toli Bera

        “Not Flyboy…At All”

        or Nfaa for short.

      • Klaus

        How about Swift? swifts are black, and they fly. They are not associated by darkness, though.

      • Michael

        Gee, let’s see. He flies, he’s black, and he operates and night…

        It’s really hard NOT to use some variation on ‘bat’.

        Na na na na na na na na, Megachiropteraman! Look out, it’s The Amazing Arcerodon! What’s that in the darkness? It’s Mirimiriman!

      • Jeldenil

        Darkwing. :p

        • Darkwing

          Darkwing Duck

          • Great now I got the theme song stuck in my head. -_-

          • Jeldenil

            You’re welcome, Doki-wing.

    • I really really like his night time flight suit!!

    • mmmmmmhmmmmm

  • Fabulous Alien

    I was going to say something about Mitch having the best intentions – but being a teenager – so rules feel more like a suggestion. Or about Gordon really not being sympathetic – but also being all parentlike jumping to the worst possible scenario – and being right about being scared even if his way of expressingg himself leaves much to be desired.

    But I’m too sleepy, so I’m just going to say that it’s nice to see action scenes drawn by a different artist. I’ve loved the “domesticity” of this short story, but this is so interesting that I’m going to look at Flyboy being a total hero for hours. When I wake up because I think I just dozed off mid-sentence.

  • Toli Bera

    “How dare you use the powers you have to help people to help people! That’s a job for the police!”

    uh gordon sweet bean? do you see the flaw?

    • Terri Sutton

      He doesn’t seem all that self-aware does he?

      • Toli Bera

        To be fair, He’s a bit shocked / in #TeamDad mode.

    • Eve

      Wait, if helping people is a job for the police, why are there superhero teams at all?

      • Toli Bera

        because… reasons.

    • He could have added the hero teams, but YP isn’t in that category.
      They’re Young Protectors, and a search and rescue team. That’s what they’ve been trained for. We already know that over half of them hasn’t faced a real battle. Mitch may have had a little more combat training, since he was an intern on a heroes team, but he could still get himself and others hurt badly because he’s not fully trained.

  • kinda want to cosplay red hot now after reading this entire comic
    or spooky jones
    or the platinum priestess

    • stickfigurefairytales

      If you do end up cosplaying any or all of them, I’d love to see pictures!

      • I’ll probably end up at least doing Spooky since it’s simple but I can be creative with it. At first I thought it’d be /too/ simple, but the potion things in his jacket would be fun to make. If I really wanted to challenge myself, I could incorporate lighting in the overcoat to illuminate the potions. ref – http://puu.sh/iavsP/55be40bd17.png

        • stickfigurefairytales

          That would be awesome!

          • Taking measurements and researching at the moment… I’ve already gotten myself excited. ^^”

        • I’m also looking at some simple magic/fire props for posing or whatever. I have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go down. Let’s just say there’s a lot of LEDs and wiring going on.

        • Klaus

          Careful with the petard!

    • I’d love to see pictures when you do. 🙂

      • :O!! You’ve noticed me

  • I wake up to another early page, and one that (along with some things I thought of yesterday) make me understand both Mitch and Gordon’s side more. Especially Gordon.

    In many ways I can understand why Mitch wants to help, even ‘after hours’ when he can. He has extra powers and he has a better opportunity than most ‘ordinary’ human, so why shouldn’t he? He’s only helping and it must be horrible having to hold back when you can that better than most.
    If he happens to fly around at night, just strolling around (for no purpose *wink, wink*) and his super hearing or eyesight spots a crime.. well, you go stop that crime, right? It will help someone, save someone and what’s the harm in that?
    I get that, and I understand why he feels like that.

    BUT.. the more this scene plays out, and the more I think about it, I feel that Gordon isn’t wrong. He could have had a less explosive outburst but, even besides his temper, it’s actually not that bad. He still speaks harshly, but he’s more controlled. Mitch actually deserves this tongue lashing. He deserves a little yelling, if it helps make the point (sadly he won’t remember the next day).

    Yup, that’s my change in opinion. Why?

    First, I realized I’ve been looking a lot at this with a ‘superhero comic’ view. We readers/viewers (I say that as a loose general ‘we’ and know it doesn’t cover all) are used to read or watch things where someone becomes a hero, often after a time of being considered a vigilante and/or a menace to the society and law enforcing people – but after a while it’s more or less excused, because being a hero and crimefighting is what they are. What they do. They act outside the law and the rules, but they save people and stop crimials. Just like Mitch is doing here.

    But what about a society where all/most people with powers, or some kind of special gift/training, isn’t anonymous to the law enforcements? Is known and strictly ‘controlled’ by goventment rules and such. If discovered ‘moonlighting’ they can’t hide behind an innocent facade. I realized that my usual ‘comic hero’ view doesn’t work in this comic’s universe.
    This leads to a whole other scenario. This could lead to big consequences, not only for Mitch but also for the team. Based on just that ‘little’ fact, and just with that I get Gordon’s reaction.

    Add two factors:

    One. The professional aspect.
    From what I’ve gotten so far, meta-humans either join a hero team, are rejected and put into junior teams (like YP), aren’t allowed to use their powers – or they turn to the ‘dark side’ in eyes of the law. How dark depends on their actions.
    Back to the hero teams. These seem to be looked up the same way as a military/police service. They’re part of keeping the country safe, but there’s a lot of rules and laws to be uphold, be it in the police or servicing your country.
    Mitch may have been trained for a little more while being an intern, but he’s now on a search and rescue team. Someone who is trained for that and called in to help with fires, finding missing people and such. Not to fight criminals.

    He’s going way beyond what he has the autorization to do, and he does it without permission, and doing it on purpose shows a severe lack of discipline compared to what he’s been taught and trained for. It would be like a cop going out on the streets with his weapon and fight criminals off the clock. Or a soldier going off on his own. Both will lead to a discharge – and possibly/likely prison time. No, Mitch isn’t flying around with a weapon, but Mitch IS a potential weapon all on his own if he looses control. His powers ensure that. And this leads to the other part.

    Two. The personal factor. Both up and close for Mitch, but also the possible consequence for the ones involved. I’ve already shortly mentioned how his actiosn could affect the team. Amanda (and Gordon) could get in serious trouble if Mitch is exposed, and with that the whole team.
    Then there’s the chance that Mitch himself can get hurt when he’s confronting anyone with a weapon. He might be fast and strong, but a bullet can reach far or a knife is still sharp if he ends up having to get between bad guy and victim.
    The bad guy/victim situation is another thing. One thing is interfering in a ‘less dangerous’ situation, another is the possibility of him stepping in and how it could make a crime scene escalate. Some times things turn to the worse when a perpetrator feels pressured. Mitch could either get himself, a potential victim or the bad guy badly hurt. Even hurting the bad guy CAN lead to consequences for a bystander who interefers.

    For someone like Mitch, who went searching for crimes on his own. I hope he never finds out.
    In Mitch’s case, I’m sad he won’t remember this the day after. He needs that reminder, and he needs it BAD!

    • kamishiro

      Wow you couldn’t said it better! Completely agre with you.

      • *lol* I hadn’t thought I’d see the day where I would be out defending Tsunami like this 😉

    • A really nice analysis and reaction, Danish. Very cool. 🙂

  • Phyre Storm

    Ugh, Tsunami, I like you less every time you open your big bossy mouth. Being protective is one thing, but immediately suspecting the worst like that (which he also does after Kyle’s revelations) is pretty insulting.

    His question should be something like “Why are you such a paranoid jerk?”

    • That Guy

      Feel this way so strongly that not even that gorgeous Patreon donator’s art makes me curious now. Kind of don’t want to see him naked, even if I had the money to donate. (If I get the money, I still will donate, just really not liking this man’s attitude)

      • Phyre Storm

        I don’t find ridiculously musclebound guys attractive anyway, but I know what you mean.

    • Kate G

      I’m going to take a moment and stand up for Tsunami because, really, we don’t know his history yet. He could have had a military dad or a cop dad (or in my case, BOTH.) You might as well call these dads the Suspicious Overprotective Daddies* (SOD.) SODs have a habit of making rounds before going to bed at night to make sure all of the windows and doors are locked, the lights outside are on, and the guns are within reach (but still secure) in case of a burglary. Daughters and sons of SODs still have curfews if they live in the house…even when they are 26 (heaven forbid we go out at midnight. Rapists! Murderers! Thieves! My neighborhood has had…one murder in the past 10 years. Yea.) You have a survival kit that takes up half of the trunk in your car. You have to tell your parents where you are going, with whom and when you hope to get back, even when they aren’t home. Yes, that is the life in the home of SODs.

      That kind of paranoid thinking stays with you, even if you’re just home alone for a few days. -_-

      *I am well aware you could have moms in the military and the police force. I used “dad” because, well, my dad was both an auxiliary cop and was MI and a paratrooper in the Army. It was easier to say dad.

      • That Guy

        Both my parents are the way you describe, and yes, this kind of thinking does stay with you. However, I do not feel it excuses Tsunami’s attitude towards his team mates. There are plenty of ways to express concern without being an asshole.

        • Kate G

          I tend to feel like he’s fatherly, but he can over-react over sometimes a really dumb thing. My dad over-reacts sometimes but he always calms downs and apologizes after. I feel Tsunami is the same way, but we haven’t been able to see the apologetic side because they went straight into battle after his blow up. He’s kind of like a grizzly bear.

          Everyone has a different personality here, and I like there’s that paranoid, “you didn’t hurt anyone, did you?” personality. That would be me. I am the crazy, paranoid one.

          • That Guy

            As much as I hate his character, I am glad that there is such a character in the series. Great writing, that.
            Perhaps so much of my hatred for him is that he reminds me far too much of horrible people in my life. (family)
            Apologizing for that sort of behaviour later on really doesn’t help, you get numb to it, and know it’s always just going to happen again.

  • Sapfo

    Good morning good people!
    Seems I woke up a little late this morning. But I do see a Doki fliting page 😀

    This page does show that Tsunami is an adult. He is thinking one, two and even three steps a head then the boys. I do love cute little impulsive Mitch, but safety first kids! (Now where is that seat belt?)

    Good work Alex and Julie! You to are making areal cute piece here. And you know this part: You Rock!

    • Morning Ms. Strawberry!

      • Sapfo

        Morning Admiral!
        All is good I see?

        • Clear sailing this evening. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            And sun is out here. So it will be good. (might even do some cleaning, but I am not that much of a hero)

          • It takes a special hero to clean. ;D But it’s good to know the future looks bright!

    • Thank you, Sapfo! 🙂

  • Klaus

    What if the burglars shown in the first two panels had been armed? Flyboy would have left two armed and desperate criminals where they were likely to hurt people. And the man in the car might shoot Flyboy. Flyboy it fast enough that the driver will not get an oportunity when he puts down the car. Probably. Hopefuly. It would be very stupid to shoot at Flyboy when in the air. But this manouver is likely to cause the drivefr to panic, and there is no telling what people may do when in panic.

    • Keneu

      That’s true. The burglars might attack or even kill other people to get a car or to run from the police when they arrive.

  • Kate G

    Careful and fast does not mean you are not seen, Mitch.

    I shall update later if I win against the therapy balls at my horse lesson today. The war continues.

  • Connor

    Has anyone here seen the show Babylon 5? The extra insight we’re getting into the world here really makes me think of PsyCorps — when they find out someone is a telepath, they give them three options. 1) Join the Corps. 2) Go to prison. 3) Take powerful drugs for the rest of their life to inhibit their natural ability.
    I worry about the long-term potentialities of the YP government deciding that it is acceptable to limit some people’s freedoms because they are more powerful than normals.

    • Columbine

      Yeah I’ve seen B5, from what we’ve seen I’m not sure the YP world has quite that level of restriction. The only rules I can remember seeing over people with powers are about them being involved in super-hero work, which you could take as being similar to police/military/emergency services work. Most countries wouldn’t let untrained people or underage people join their fire department. We haven’t seen anything (as far as I can tell) that suggests people with powers *have* to join superhero groups. Perhaps the rules only cover people in groups or breaking the law, which doesn’t seem too unreasonable?

      I now look forward to Kyle falling for a superpowered baker.

    • timemonkey

      The formation of the PsyCorps was also supposed to be for the telepath’s protection as much as it was mundanes being afraid of them. When telepaths were first revealed hundreds, maybe thousands, of them were murdered by normal people. Plus higher powered telepaths need training to block out the voices or they’ll go insane.

  • AseretZone

    Saw the page hours ago, couldn’t think of what to say, baby distracted me…I’ll try commenting tomorrow. XD Looks great, I like his outfit!

  • Michael

    I kind of want to repeat what one commenter said in the last page: I really hope Amanda tells Gordon to sit his ass down soon. He’s really not helping.

  • verzid

    spooky disapeared 😮

    • Michael

      Don’t worry, he’s just done a backwards somersault over the couch to get a glass of water, or something.

      It’s thirsty work, being so sexy.

      • So true.

        • Michael

          Hooray, I guessed right!

          If my couches weren’t pushed up against a wall, I’d be doing backwards somersaults to get off them all the time. Even when I don’t need to.

    • LOL I missed that. *Points to Michael’s comment*.. Uhm, best answer 😉

    • Thank you for the catch. I’ll ask Julie to fix that when all the pages are done. 🙂

  • anonywolf

    Really starting to get sick of Tsunami. I get overprotective – I get paranoia that can come from something happening in your history – but he’s just repeatedly being an asshole. After a while there ceases to be a reasonable and sympathetic reason for reactions like this.

    • Nichelle Haliday

      Actually, I really do think Tsunami has a point with this. At some point, the job of fighting crime stops becoming a superhero’s job and becomes the police’s. They’re trained and prepared to handle certain kinds of situations such as robberies and or other hostage situations. While Mitch’s intentions may be good, that doesn’t mean the presence of a superhero is always the best thing for a situation.

      While I approve of Mitch wanting to help people no matter what, eventually it will get him into trouble, if it already hasn’t.

    • James Holman

      I agree. He comes off as if he thinks he is better than everyone else. And he is always yelling and reminds me of abusive people or a bully. Plus he is a huge homophobe.

    • I’ve not been a fan of Tsu’s earlier outbursts, far from, but in this case I’ve come to agree with him now. Considering his quick tempered outbursts, he’s actually doing..well. So far he only yelled the first part, so Mitch is getting off easy. No really, he is.
      The previous time he was discovered doing this, he was thrown off a team, and I have serious doubts that he was informed/questioned of his missteps in a calm and gentle way back then.

      You wouldn’t want to send a not fully trained but armed cop or soldier, possibly without proper self-discipline, out in the field without guidance and supervisions either. Mitch is a weapon in himself if something goes wrong.

      • anonywolf

        One of the main problems here is, however much Tsunami is the only other “adult” with Amanda – Amanda is the team Captain. It’s NOT Tsunami’s place to get pissy in such a manner – he’s chewing out Mitch for something he doesn’t agree with on the basis of very little evidence – who says Mitch is “not fully trained”? He worked on another team – who would have trained him, he works on TYP (mostly search and rescue) – the pictures we’ve seen he’s been mostly removing vulnerable people from the situation – not engaging in hand to hand and while Tsu doesn’t know that – it’s still something that should have been questioned first.

        If it was Amanda chewing Mitch out – I’d have relatively little problem – but Tsu’s temper to me is indicative that HE’S not suitable for leadership (he lacks some important skills in listening and reason) and has severe trust issues when it comes to his team which makes him a liability in the field. He’s jumping to the worst conclusions every time so far whenever they confide or admit to something, his immediate instinct is to tell them off and either exclude them or assert his “authority” in a bullying manner, it’s hard to think that this won’t transfer into the field and get them all hurt. He doesn’t trust them to make things right, learn and grow (and yes – I’m aware that Mitch hasn’t seemed to have “learned” much – but he’s still young and the young are hardheaded). Smothering and exclusion is NOT how you help people.

        Yes – Mitch did wrong – but NO – Tsunami doesn’t “have a point” – Tsunami has a temper and dangerous trust issues.

        • That Guy

          I think you have just voiced my opinions better than I could have. Thank you.

        • I agree with you in almost everything you said here. Some minor things I could debate, but I do’t feel that it’s needed 🙂
          Tsunami really does have his issue, and I hope we’ll soon find out why some of this is the way it is.

  • My love for Mitch only grows stronger.

  • Pikinanou

    Can you just imagine what the guy in the car is thinking, right now? hahah

  • Jeldenil

    What Mitch didn’t know, was that Lestat had this stuation perfectly under control /nerds away

    • Aren’t those clothes a little frumpy for Lestat?

      • Jeldenil

        He enjoys playing a role. And luring the ‘evildoers’ towards a seemingly helpless ‘victim’. So I guess a little frumpy disguise wouldn’t be below him.

  • Is it bad that I wonder if Mitch got a “thank you” peck from the guy he rescued from his attacker?

    I was going to say mugger, but the hold the guy has on the shirt is a bit odd.

  • I really hope Gordon’s ToD question will give an insight to some of his personality and reactions.

    • Jeldenil

      I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt so far. I can empathize with/ understand his reactions, over-the-top as they are. It’s that I don’t like those hulking muscles much, or I’d start my own Tsunami-love-club since I think he gets too little love in the comments. he’s an easy target to pick on, and I don’t think that’s fair.

      • I wouldn’t say I’m a total fan of him, but I’m like you about his reactions: Benefit of the doubt. Some I didn’t like and some i can’t really dislike. Also because I now pretty much agree on his reactions (so far) when it comes to Mitch here.
        Extreme muscles aren’t my thing much either, but those tattoos looks really good on him 🙂

  • LimpBiskit

    Anybody else notice that the guys in the third panel have a sort of resemblance to a certain dangerous couple? Or maybe its just me…

  • Oh, something I forgot to add in my previous comment: http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-tod-page-14/#comment-2059351180 (it’s a long one), in why I actually agree with Gordon’s reaction on this page, and that’s Amanda.

    We already know he was kicked off a team for not following rules, and to join THIS team he had to make a promise to Amanda. A promise he’s broken several times.
    In other words, it could be interpreted that he didn’t give a crap about her and the team. He just wants a place to be where he some times legally can help, while he’s doing what ever the hell he wants to anyway behind their backs.
    He helps people, but he’s doing it against their knowledge and while breaking the one promise that gave him a new chance on this team. That’s actually pretty selfish. There’s no I in team, right?

    As I’ve said previously, and what Kyle also say on this page, I get why he wants to help since he can… but if Mitch wants to take these chances, and be a big hero before he’s ready, then he also has to step up to base and take be ready to take the consequences.
    Doing things as he does, and doing it AGAIN after already having tried the consequences once, suggest that he has a lot to learn still. That, or he’s well on his way to creating a hero syndrome, or even a god complex.

    I like Mitch, I really do, but I see the dangers in the route he’s been taking.

  • Flyboy?

    More like Myboy.
    seriously.
    Flyboy and Spooky,
    i love u.

  • bronakopdin

    Sadly I do not have the means to help out on Anne’s family’s gofundme, but I want to say my thanks to everyone else who have and want to help out there!
    Moments like this, when Alex shares the questions and concerns of other readers here with all of us shows what a caring community we are!
    I take my hat off to everyone here!

    I really do know where Mitch and Kyle are coming from… at the same time I understand what Gordon is saying and as much as I appreciate the thought of the boys I have to agree with Gordon, it’s too dangerous for one guy alone, this is not ultimately about the age either though that fact adds up to it 🙁

    and having in mind noone will remember anything after this I guess it won’t change until he’s found out for real at some point huh?
    I don’t know whether I like where this is going >_<'

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Gordon is just not my type…..reminds me of people I have known in my lifetime …rough,self-centered know-it-all types…..regardless of the physical attractiveness ….these people always end up being trouble!

    • Megan Staples

      YES! That’s exactly how I feel about Gordon. He’s a busybody know-it-all. The type of guy who knows “what’s best for you” and ignores the fact that people can take care of themselves. It doesn’t seem like Mitch is taking on truly dangerous people, just muggers that he can can out-maneuver easily with his speed. He’d know when he was in over his head, like if the Annihilator showed up, he’d rabbit and call someone. He doesn’t strike me as being stupid.

      • Derkins

        Nope, but Gordon isn’t exactly the trusting type. :/

    • Derkins

      i don’t even like overly muscley guys, and his haircut is awful. i can’t find anything redeeming about him, but i’m trying to be patient to learn more about him. i admit his glowy tattoos are cool. 🙂

  • Saxon_Brenton

    I haven’t got any particularly insightful thoughts, and honestly I think DanishWolf has already said most of what I could possibly say. So instead, I’ll just berate FlyBoy.

    Really Flyboy? Full leather? Could you make yourself even more of a lust object for your fans? How about you have a talk with Nightwing and get a lend of one of his tight black latex bodystocking costumes, so that you can properly display your butt for all the world to see?

    • Terri Sutton

      No Latex! I remember a picture of Nightwing doing the rounds that accurately portrayed what a life of fighting crime in Latex did to him (covered in scars).

  • Cman65

    and when you “saved” the red-head did you get a “big thank-you” later

    • Derkins

      no matter how much I enjoy your comments, I will never get over your avatar. heh *shields eyes*

  • Sunfire

    Ok so, going out on a limb here, but Gordy’s reactions could be from his own experience. Maybe not moonlighting persay, but maybe when he was younger he did the same sort of thing before joining a team. Maybe he thought he could be a solo hero, and the civilian wound up hurt through the ‘quick’ situation getting out of control. I’m not saying Gordy wasn’t a bit OTT in the last page, but the way he says here it’s a job for the police could be from bitter experience.

    I’m definitely curious as to what his Dare question will reveal about him. So far he’s come across as homophobic, with an arrogance problem, and an issue about letting ‘kids’ work – even as far as to portray him as feeling as though his limelight will be usurped by kids, which also speaks of a bit of vanity. Maybe his Dare question will reveal one of those origins.

    That’s about all I can decently remember about Gordy thanks to…um, dammit – the person who was nice enough to link me the pages so I’d remember about Gordy. I can’t remember what issue I commented on for them to do that either, or I’d go back to it and get their name.

    I hate amnesia.. 🙁

    • Derkins

      I’d agree about Gordy maybe having some experience in the area, if he hadn’t shouted that he DOES NOT RELATE. If he’d done it himself in the past, I doubt he’d have said that so forcefully. Really the fact that he doesn’t at all relate or empathize with that urge, kind of tells me just how much more egocentric he is than the other kids. Even if you respect authority tremendously, that doesn’t mean that civil disobedience never occurs to you, regardless of whether you act on it. Here though, Gordon seems more angry at even the thought of doing something like that. Not only would it never occur to him, but the notion actually angers him. I’d expect more that maybe he’s seen someone else make that mistake, if it’s rooted in something specific. Like, someone he cares about getting in trouble or hurt in the past, due to a vigilante situation.

    • I’m as curious as Gordon, a your are, and I want to know who (or what) resulted in him almost having forgotten how to smile – at least based on main comic alone.

      It was @disqus_8gizXhsHgE:disqus who helped you with the link about 3 weeks ago, and what you remember about Gordon is pretty much what we know now.
      I can’t even imagine having amnesia like you currently have, but I feel with you and it must be so frustrating. I hope you get all/most of your memory from the lost months back – or at least end up remembering more than you have forgotten.
      Should you have any questions just ask. Maybe it’s something we can’t answer yet, but if we can then I’ll be happy to help you 🙂

  • Somedays are just not my days.

    • Chris Dangerfield

      What’s your secret? I find “many” days are not my days. 😀

    • purplefoxglove

      *hugs*

      Better?

      • Much!! *hugs back* Thank you!

        • purplefoxglove

          You’re welcome 🙂

          Have fun camping tonight!

    • Klaus

      Not many, I hope.

      • I do prefer them to be kept at a minimum. 🙂

    • *hugs* Does it make you feel better that yesterday (Wednesday) we got stormed out when we got to waterpark? Though we did go to the Marble Slab to compensate. We had to stay inside awhile for the rain to let up. We saw some nice lightning when we were in the car.

      • Well I wouldn’t want to feel better at the expense of Doki’s not good day. But I thank ye for the hugs. Those are always nice and welcome!

        • It’s okay I think my brother and nephew were the most disappointed. We are going to try again on Sunday.

          • Yeah, the beach was never my favorite place to be.

    • I hope today is a better that then!

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Thank you Alex and Julie for another really fun fresh page.

    It’s always so interesting to see cast members we’ve come to know, in a new light, new context, new uniform. Just as with Amanda’s memories, I enjoyed the visual/dialog blend of Mitch-now and Mitch-in-memory. Very artfully done.

    Regardless of whether anyone feels strongly that Mitch’s actions were right or wrong… I don’t think that’s ultimately hugely important. 15 year olds start making their own decisions and some of those decisions are better than others. That’s just the journey. It was for all of us. As always when mentoring and working with young people it’s about how you interact and how you help them move toward the better decisions — on their own. Ultimately they have to learn to do the right thing by themselves. You aren’t there to judge them. Just to help them think about all the aspects of their decisions and to understand which ones you feel are better and which not. If they admire YOU, then your opinion will matter. If they don’t, then nothing you yell at them will make any difference.

    Drive them away and I suspect they’ll find that Team Silver is recruiting and will be happy to give the teen a home. Thus are gangs built.

    I thought Mitch’s dialog was very well written here. He is impassioned about what he feels so strongly about. What he NEEDS to do. I can hear his 15-year-old heart in his voice. Well written Alex. I think it shows the “young/old quality” only a mid-teen can have. He feels this so strongly that he’s risking his position with Amanda, who you can tell he deeply admires. Right or wrong in the specifics of his execution of these actions, I like how his dialog throughout this scene and on the last page illuminates the depth of his feelings.

    Unfortunately, it also highlights how poorly Gordon is at handling his teammates. He was judgmental and harsh about the online porn, he was bullying and judgmental (and borderline homophobic on the jet), and now here he’s full-on brow beating Mitch. As a dramatic device the contrast to Mitch’s mature delivery is startling and quite good. Alex if your goal was to “disturb” us you have succeeded. 🙂

    Fifteen is exactly the age of good/bad decision making. A time of splitting away and defining yourself as the adult you wish to become. In truth (any legal fictions about guardianships aside), Gordon is neither a family member, brother nor mentor. What he’s doing is pretty classically what one is told NEVER to do with a teen — publicly browbeat, bully and shut them down.

    One should parse out what is good in Mitch’s motivation to help people and to use his powers for good… and THEN work with the young person to help them find a way to satisfy that passion in a manner that is safer and acceptable to you.

    However, simply berating a teen for past-actions, belittling him in front of his peers, castigating him for following his heart and making no effort to carefully discuss the specifics??? All the tantrum-ranting Gordon is doing… will make sure that Mitch stops confiding in him under ANY circumstances. Everyone knows that the fastest way to get a teen to do go LEFT is to stop listening and insist they go RIGHT.

    And people wonder why their kids stop talking to them… Gordon is making it clear here that Mitch is not safe to bring up difficult issues in his presence. Just as in the jet, it’s difficult to listen to Gordon throw yet another fit and have no one, particularly Amanda say anything to reign him in. At this point in the book, it’s a complete mystery as to why Gordon is Amanda’s assistant. He seems the least mature member of the group by a significant margin.

    If there’s a reason, I’m looking forward to understanding more.

    Thanks again guys. Mitch is certainly sharing himself with us and he’s definitely destined to become a super hero with a great heart. Swell page. Can’t wait for Friday!

    • Nicely said, Mr. Dangerfield. I whole heartedly agree!

    • Right on! It’s why I get it and can’t fault Mitch for wanting to help. He IS doing it with best intensions. Also, as much as I DO feel that Gordon’s tongue lashing is somehow justified here, it gets hard to see because there’s a pattern of him doing it ‘too much’. He seems to get easily loud and harsh on everything, no matter what, and that takes away the effect by when it could mean something. He’s doing it all wrong. I think the irrational way his temper tantrums come, is why he’s not as included in the friendship that Spooky, Kyle and Paul has.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Thanks. I think that’s a good point.

        Even if we suppose that both Mitch AND Gordon have good intentions, and that both of them mean well. This interaction shows that if “it” isn’t delivered with TLC… It doesn’t help the things in way the person may intend.

        The hard thing for us readers here is that we get to hear Mitch’s intentions straight from his mouth, butt we’re still wondering what’s going on with Gordon and why he seems perpetually angry.

        When is someone going to do that Wiki page and ‘splain all the character-motivation secrets of TYP?

        (*chris taps foot*) ……. “I’m waiting!” 😀

        • Derkins

          Yeah I’m really looking forward to whatever secret Gordon’s going to tell. He’s always so quick to judge others for their actions and feelings, I can’t help but wonder at what he’s rejecting in himself. He reacted poorly to everyone else’s secret so far. How will he behave when the tables are turned? How does he even allow *himself* to have secrets, with that sort of attitude? Is he the only one allowed to take mental or behavioral liberties? I must know. In fact I feel like this whole segment has the potential to be the most revealing of Gordon, out of everyone.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            I hope you’re right. Well said.

        • Maybe Gordon just went through a really nasty break up?

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Another good possibility. It seems that it would have had to happen prior to the porn interlude. I don’t think we’ve ever seen him NOT be “this” Gordon.

            I’m curious.

      • Derkins

        And once again, as he throws his tantrum, Spooky and Amanda sit there and calmly watch him blow his top. If it were really that terrible a decision, I think they would’ve at least flinched when Flyboy dropped the bomb.

    • Thank you very much for the props, Chris. And for another really great reaction! 🙂

  • Guuh! Despite the serious topic right now, a part of me can’t ignore how cute Mitch looks in panel one. I’m sure he’s used that sweet innocent face to get away wth more than one thing -until you know him better xD

    • purplefoxglove

      For some reason, Julie’s art style (which I adore; they all look so young and cute) sometimes makes the team look a little bit like cats to me. Mitch in the first panel resembles a half-grown kitty who just clawed up your curtains, and now sits in front of the mess, looking up at you and saying: “Who? Me? I think you should reconsider your state of mind. I would NEVER do something like that.”

      What’s distracting ME is Gordon in the last panel – he reminds me of a dumbfounded Persian cat. I think it’s the eyes.

      And I want to poke his nose.

      • LOL.. Oh no, now I can’t unsee that. Someone needs to draw them all as different types of cats xD

        • You sure Gordon isn’t Siamese?

          • Could be. I could just easily vision the persian that Purple mentioned, because I knew someone who had a persian with a personality and temper to match Tsu’s 😉

          • purplefoxglove

            When I hear Siamese, I think “cross-eyed” because my mother had a cross-eyed Siamese cat once. Now I can’t get the image of a cross-eyed Tsunami out of my mind 😛

          • stickfigurefairytales

            But Siamese cats tend to be on the smaller side (at least in my experience), while Persians can be big grumpy fluffs.

    • 🙂

  • fujoshifanatic

    So now we have more insight into Mitch’s nocturnal activities. Just as Chris mentioned, I love how you got his dialogue just right, Alex–still the thoughts, actions and reasonings of a 15-year-old, but one who is much more astute, self-aware, and mature (in some respects) than young men his age. You can see where he has thought long and hard about this, and while I may not agree with it, I can understand how he came to the choices he made.

    While I agree with Tsunami (though dude, your delivery? Not the most effective here :-), I can’t help but appreciate Mitch’s efforts to make a difference using the gifts he was given. It’s commendable, and will serve him well as he grows into himself as a hero. Plus his night costume is rad, and dare I say, hot? It would be cool to see it become his permanent outfit when he comes of age and can be properly lusted after. Until then, I will squee over his adorable, thoughtful little face in the first panel, and hope that Gordon isn’t too harsh with him. Amanda! Tell your boy to stand down and cut Mitch some slack!

    Since they will be forgetting the events of the evening, I wonder if Mitch will continue his nightly activities? If so, do you think we could hear about one of his adventures? Maybe as a new short story incentive? *HINT, HINT* I think that would be awesome.

    • Thank you for your kind words and fun reaction, fujoshifanatic! 🙂

  • Mitch’s innocent face is fantastic.

  • Derkins

    Gah I will never like Tsunami. He’s a super believable character, but he’s soooo far from the kind of guy I’d like to hang out with, or ever find remotely attractive. Not a fan of meat-heads.

    • Sanbai

      Hah, yes, yes you are!

  • korydwen

    I’m a bit surprised by why so many people dislike Tsunami. He actually reminds me a lot of Joe West in the show The Flash with his “I’m the adult and those are kids, and they are under my charge and protection”.

    He’s flawed and I like that in him. It must not be very easy to be responsible of a team of superhero and even if Amanda is the captain, I’ve got the feeling she voluntarily let a lot of the “scolding” into Tsunami’s hands because of her psychic power. It would be very easy of her to impose her own thoughts on the others if she loses control of her power.

    Tsu has anger management issues that’s for sure, but like, he’s called “Tsunami” and he can control water and I’ve got the feeling that he had his power from a very long time and well, once again, he’s an adult compared to the others, he already went through the whole “I have big powers!” teen thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had been raised hammering into his head that he can’t go rogue because he has potential very destructive power. He actually reminds me a bit of Kyle because of that. Mitch has seemingly less offensive powers so he can tend to see himslef as less “weapon-y” as Kyle or Tsu would, but because he doesn’t have that, it can makes him much more reckless, and so much more dangerous.

    So yeah, Tsunami can be an ass but I feel like a lot of it comes from the authority situation he has been put on with this group. I wouldn’t be surprised that when he got the group, the others adult superheroes teased it as a “babysitting job”. From the beginning I got thisvibe from Tsunami that he considers that whatever the group does, it is his responsability and he will be the one to have to respond to the consequences.

    • Derkins

      he ain’t half as charming, empathetic, supportive, or NICE as ol’ Joe West, in the show, who is a much warmer character. Gordon is all anger and no support or smiles. Plus he doesn’t really have the same age difference going for him, to justify his “you’re kids” stance. and the fact that he’s an authority figure makes it that much more important for him to earn the respect of the team, as opposed to constantly strain it. good leaders respond like Amanda. SHE is the adult in the room. and maybe Spooky, too.

      I do like you’re theory though that Gordon’s been drilling that rhetoric into his head for a long time, and that he’s over-compensating with the discipline. It’s hard not to get the feeling he’s projecting (most of the time).

      • korydwen

        I agree he’s not as nice as Joe :3 Probably because his protectiveness over the others strikes me as coming more from a sense of duty and responsability while in Joe West it’s his fatherly love that tends to blind him. Joe is a mama bear :p

        But if Amanda is the adult in the room and that she, supposedly, disagree so much with Gordon, why does she let him go on those rants so much ? I do get the feeling they have a sort of good cop/bad cop co-leading dynamic.

        Plus if Gordon is not that much older than the rest of the group, it explains why he overcompensate that much. There’s the issue of feeling legitimate in a leading role that can push you to be stricter than a more experimented leader with a bigger age difference with his “troops”.

        So the thing is, both Gordon and Amanda were never put on the same equal stand as the others in the band, and it creates a different dynamic. Amanda gets a pass because well, most of the time she just stands in the back when tension appears and she doesn’t do much to diffuse said tension or work the problem. It most of the time goes like “ok we stop talking about it and sweep it under the rug for now and I don’t care if it’s dealt with in the future as long as we do our job”. So Amanda might be a good strategy leader but she’s not doing much to “help” the others with their issues either, probably because of her power. Cue the “I rely on Tsunami to vent the tension” vibe I get from her. Spooky strikes me more as the “third leader” that actually takes care of the emotionnal well-being of everyone.

        Gordon keeps bringing up the issue of training, being trained to fight crime, being trained to rescue people, being trained for military mission etc etc. With the kind of power he has, I tend to think specific training has always been a huge part of his life. And well he’s not wrong. You can’t ask a cop to be a firefighter out of nowhere the same way you can’t ask a firefighter to become a teacher without any training. His power asks also for a lot of focus so it’s not surprising to me that it would “shape” his mindset to be very rigid. (also I can’t help to think that “tsunami” is quite an ominous name for someone being on the “good” side and I keep wondering if he did something very terrible to get that name).

        And all this training talk makes think that well, I doubt Tsunami ever got any training as a teacher/social worker either ;p

        • More great points here, korydwen. Good stuff. 🙂

    • This is a really great, thoughtful reaction, korydwen! Much fun for me to read. And I hadn’t made the connection with Joe West, but I’ll be thinking about that the next time I watch the show. 🙂

      • korydwen

        Aww thank you :3 I’m glad my rambling was fun to read :3 Joe is one of my favourite character on the Flash, especially because of this frustrating overprotectiveness he has 🙂

  • Oh gosh, Gordon. Talk about invasive questions. Can’t the boy have some privacy? Oh, good thing they’re going to forget all this.

    On a lighter note, all I can think of when I look at Mitch in this page is…
    up. up! and AWAY!
    <|:o)

  • SpookyDomme

    Aw yiss I’m all caught up now.

  • Derkins

    even if an accident occurs once in a blue moon, he’s saving who knows how many people from what otherwise would’ve been certain harm. he may have even prevented a number of murders. and he’s taking dangerous people off the streets. i mean. there is a reason people like batman, even if they were a little wary of him at first. 🙂

  • Kate G

    I’m surprised there’s so much dislike for Tsunami compared to the others. He seems like he’s mostly level headed until someone goes way outside of the lines that are defined for the YP team and that can get his friends, whom he sees as family, in danger. He loses his head then. He’s a very loyal, protective and by-the-rules kind of guy. Coloring outside of the lines really isn’t in his vocabulary, so he loses a gasket when that happens, and I’m sure when he calms down he’s one of those people who has his own way of apologizing because he has a hard time apologizing (like my dad. He’s found apologizing easier over the years.) Bruce Wayne, while he is a vigilante, is very much like Tsunami. He has a code when he’s Batman and if any of his Robins go off the code you’ll see him lose his cool depending on how bad it was.

    My riding lesson yesterday was brutal. My normal instructor was sick, so I had a sub. I did tons of strengthening (posting out of stirrups, with one foot out of stirrups, posting with no reins, two point no reins, two point with my eyes closed and no reins, posting with no reins and eyes closed…it was a day.) so I hurt REALLY bad. PLUS I have a headache because Scoobs was being difficult and decided not to turn right when I said right so I whacked into two balls; the third ball was my own fault. Plus, it’s fly season and Scoobs really wanted to irritate me and kept whacking my back with his tail! I now have a bruise on my back from his tail. He’s so gentle to me, can’t you tell?

    • Very good points here, Kate. I have to say, I’m loving the thoughtful discussion y’all are having about Gordon and Mitch on this page. 🙂

  • I hope every one has a nice camp tonight! I should hopefully make it on Tuesday. ^_^

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Hope to see you then, Doki! ^_^

  • Something pretty bad must have happened to/for Tsunami at some point. It’s like he tries to control his emotions so much that he’s forgotten how to smile and be happy. He can’t even give himself that, and all that internal turmoil now comes out in short, but loud, temper flares.

    He’s so focused on rules, safety and control. What took his happy and free side away? I believe Amanda and most likely Spooky knows, because they let him join the team, but I’m not sure the others do (most unsure of Mitch since he’s new). I notice that Amanda only interferes if it’s escalating beyond a ‘safe’ point. Otherwise she let him be.

    • Kate G

      I think he has a happy and free side; I just don’t think we’ve had an opportunity to see it. They’ve been very busy lately. I mostly say this just because I know my dad so much. He’s very much like Tsunami. Very regimented, very by-the-book, loyal and protective, but when he kayaks, everything relaxes. Don’t get me started on the gaming (gaming is a huge military pastime.)

      In a way, this page shows how much he cares about his team. Maybe not in the most productive way, but I’ve definitely had this argument with my dad before.

      Tsunami is a good example of the traditional patriarchal male role still pushed in many Western societies, especially in the military (minus the temper.) We mostly dislike this kind of person today, yet that’s the dominant male role still seen in television shows and in ads today. Kyle and the others are more the feminist males that are slowly taking over the traditional male figure. I find it very interesting that so many dislike him when he is the very image of what we expect in males today.

      • davefragments

        I like that analysis of Tsunami. It feels right.

        • Kate G

          Thanks. I feel he isn’t given enough “I care about you” credit. I feel his Maori-style tattoos give to that “traditional male” raising too. I bet he does something that connects to nature as a way of relaxing. My dad shoots, kayaks or games. Kayaking is preferable of the three. He likes nature.

          I’m a bit of a mix between Tsunami (traditionalism), Mitch (wanting to push my boundaries and be heard) and Kyle (finding my space in the world.) I prefer horseback riding, crochet, photography or crafting. Bowling can be fun and relaxing but I’m really more someone who works with my hands or with animals.

          • Yes. Very nice analysis all around, Kate. And I like the way you are thinking about the characters in this last note. Very cool. 🙂

  • jreed3842

    My goodness, I’ve been very quiet on this page…. I didn’t miss the update on Wednesday, but I didn’t camp ’cause I got sick Tuesday night. (I feel much better now!)
    Today I have a physical interview with a Bank down the road, so hopefully I can land that job… (Third times the charm, I suppose!)
    I hope everyone has a wonderful camp tonight! Have a s’more for me! 😀

    • I hope that interview went well, jreed! (And if it hasn’t happened yet, good luck!)

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Glad to hear that you’re feeling better, and best of luck with your interview!

  • Wyrmidon

    I’m sorry Tsunami, you’ve just extinguished the very last spark of fondness I had for you. I’m probably being nasty and unfair here, but… I steer clear from people like you for a reason.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Okay… it’s been a strange week. And, to cap it off, I woke up this morning from some odd dream and spent the first two hours of today convinced that page-night was LAST night… and I’d missed it… (*sad*).

    So, I literally just opened up this page expecting to see a new one…

    So, oddly I think the entire day will be better now, since I now have tonight to look forward to. That said, I still feel the need for another cup of coffee. So odd! I wonder if this Veritas curse is messing with my memories. lol.

    • I hope your strange week is turning to the better now.
      A little weird is that I’ve also had a really strange week, if you count the last 7 days, starting REALLY bad but ending pretty good … and I also woke up this morning, feeling like it was supposed to be mid saturday morning = being late for the page again.

      That veritas effect theory might not be completely off o_O

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Good! We may have been cursed… but we got better! LOL.

        Your Friday is over so it’s hopefully all down-hill from here for you. Does this mean you’ll have your new page for breakfast with fresh fruit and a croissant like the other fancy wolves do? LOL.

        • Yeah.. In a week I’ve gone from being in financial shit up to my neck, and to now having a better financial standpoint than I’ve had for over a year – though I’m still not over poverty line xD
          (Even had to cancel my pledge to Alex – which remind me that I have to sign on for that again. BAD week).

          I really hope it will continue for a while, and it even allows me to start tomorrow with crispy bread with cheese and fresh fruit – as the ‘wants to be fancy’ wolves do 😉

          • Chris Dangerfield

            I’m so glad to hear it’s looking up. Danish wolves only deserve the best. So, best wishes to you!!!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I’m so glad to hear that things have gotten better for you, and I also hope that they continue to do so!

  • davefragments

    It’s Friday night and time to Camp.
    Yay. I have an excuse not to do anymore work on my anthology.
    Take the night off!

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Off to Saturday gaming, be back after the page probably updates. I suspect the next page will start with Mitch exclaiming that he hasn’t hurt anyone.

    But as an act of mischief, let’s examine a counterfactual scenario.
    Tsunami: Wait. *Have* you hurt anybody?”
    Flyboy: … A few.
    Tsunami: A *few*?
    Flyboy: Quite a few, actually. I didn’t know that the bus full of nuns was actually a group of disguised terrorists with a nuclear bomb. It got messy.

    • Have fun!

    • Tyler Griffin

      lmao! With a devious mind lie that, please tell me that you are DM’ing?

  • Um, Gordon, Mitch isn’t going to remember any of this, so yelling at him is pointless. So again, I hope Amanda tells him to simma down.

    Actually, why hasn’t Amanda told him to simma down? As leader of this ragtag group of superheroes, isn’t it her place to be the one to lay the smackdown?

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Actually Admiral, I think that’s a very relevant point. People have been making very good arguments, both pro and con, about the situational ethics of letting superpowered teenagers run around doing hero stuff. However, let’s not forget that this runs in parallel with Tsunami’s apparent personality flaw of yelling at a problem, regardless of whether or not that’s a productive action to take.

      • That’s how I’ve been feeling about the matter. His yelling does nothing here. But even if the team did remember it, it still does nothing here. His yelling is not solving the problem of Mitch going off playing crime fighter. And his yelling isn’t necessarily going to stop Mitch from running off to play crime fighter. Mitch will just be more careful with his sneaking out.

        His tendency to yell at a problem truly is a flaw, a HUGE flaw, and I think one that could be very detrimental to the team.

  • Alt+F7

    It looks like Amanda is on the brink of saying something i that second to last panel. So hopefully the next page brings several key pieces of information (*has* Mitch hurt anyone?, What is Tsunami’s problem? How will the Commander react?) Tune in soon for the next instalment of Super-Hero Team Dynamics Exposed!

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I’m so happy to hear that your kitty is safe and that you’re conquering your health issues, midterms, and financial aid, and I hope that you and your friend are able to make up soon.

  • davefragments

    Now let’s see – – I’ll give y’all a hint – – Alex has posted these pages around 11pm eastern time. That’s about ten minutes from now.

  • Tyler Griffin

    Is that nocturnal transgressions, or nocturnal emissions? 😛 SOrry, sorry. I could not resist.

    SEE!!!!! THIS! THIS is exactly what I was getting at earlier in a comment to AJ. Tsu immediately goes into accusation mode. Authoritarian whatever the psycobabbletermforitis mindset. The Rules are The Rules and that is all that matters, no exceptions. And anyone who breaks The Rules is immediately suspect of for doing ANYTHING.

  • Michael

    I’/m here on time, but I’m afraid I can’t camp today — long weekend, so we’re spending the time working on the lounge room. Hopefully we’ll get the undercoat done on the walls by tomorrow, then on Monday we’ll be able to do the first coat of colour.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Good luck! We’ll be looking forward to when you can join us for camping once more.

      • Michael

        Wednesday, I’m sure.

        On the plus side, I made lemon meringue tart this morning! Not sure how it’s turned out, it’s still in the fridge to set a bit more.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Ooh, I hope it turns out well!

          • Michael

            Me too, I’m hoping the lemon doesn’t squirt right out the sides, because I’ve made it on a biscuit base like a cheesecake rather than a pastry case.

          • Michael

            Turned out very well! Nice and tangy, not too sweet.

            Next time I need to add more cornstarch so it will set firmer, but it still holds its shape.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Yummy!!

          • Michael

            My cake-making cousin gave it a 9/10 😀

    • davefragments

      I try not to participate in painting anymore. I used to stain the outside of my house. Now I have a friend eager for money and he paints better than I do.

      • Michael

        Money is the issue at the moment, and Mum’s never been one to spend money on something she is able to do herself.

        • davefragments

          I know that feeling.

  • Sapfo

    (I am not really here. So please don´t mind the snoring pile of blankets)

    • *poke poke poke*

      • Sapfo

        …….COOOOFFFEEE! O________O

        • *pours big mug*

          • Sapfo

            I think you might have to spoon feed me it. To tired to move my hands (I am typing this with my tongue)

          • *sets up coffee IV*

          • Sapfo

            Much better…. but pile of blanket might still hit the bed (What am I doing up 5 am?)

          • Shhh you’re hunting kilted virgins.

    • Tyler Griffin

      *hides ball of compressed catnip under the blankets and opens the door to the feline kennel*

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Hi everybody! How are things going?

    • Hiya Sticky!

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Hi AJ! *hugs*

    • davefragments

      Reasonably well.
      I cured my house’s beeping thing by unplugging it.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Oh good. Unless it was a smoke detector, that is.

        • davefragments

          A landline Phone connection box that I don’t have anymore and they installed after I got rid of the phone.
          go quickly now

    • Tyler Griffin

      rapidly picking up it seems

  • Sapfo

    page is up

    • davefragments

      Take a pillow – – beat them over the head and maybe then they’ll get it!
      sigh,

  • I DON’T THINK I WANT TO KNOW!

  • I’m happy to hear things are sorting out for you. For me the biggest issue was finances and I was looking at a possible time being homeless, and living at my parents’ place for a while, but so far I was saved just before I drowned.
    I hope things will stay on the good side for all of us!

  • Ninhursag

    Superhero Mitch to the rescue! Mitch is just so adorable, he can’t stand to see helpless people in danger and not do anything…