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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Three—Page 3

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So! Looks like Fluke, Spooky and Flyboy are on their way to Kyle! I wonder how much they know. And what they’re going to do once they get there?

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  • Yay

    • You posted just seconds before!

    • Sapfo

      No! You took my B-day virgin!
      Sneaky Wolf!

      • HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Sapfo.
        I was just about to write you this on the other page. I continued the ‘tradition’ from Holly who took ‘my’ b-day virgin.

        • Sapfo

          Thank you! Maybe I will returne the favor to Holly 😉

          • SofiaT

            Happy birthday! 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Thank you ^_^
            Frog?

          • SofiaT

            &^$#%#^*! >:(

          • Sapfo

            Maybe I should say chocolate frog 😉

          • SofiaT

            Ah, yes. That will do 😀
            (We have chocolate koalas here btw. But I’m sure that comes as no surprise).

      • Happy Birthday!

        • Sapfo

          Thank you!

      • Happy Birthday!!

        • Sapfo

          Thank You Doki! 🙂

      • Happy birthday, Sapfo! So glad to have you here! 😀

        • Sapfo

          Thank you Alex!
          and even if the page is not just for me, thank you for a new page!
          Where can I get that car? 😉

      • dereule101

        Yours to? Happy Birthday!

        • Sapfo

          And Yours? 🙂

          • dereule101

            It was the 29th

          • Sapfo

            Late Happy Birthday to you! ^_^

          • SofiaT

            Happy belated birthday!

          • Happy Belated Birthday!!!

          • One more Happy belated Birthday!

          • Happy belated birthday! 🙂

          • dereule101

            Thanks, everybody!

          • b3nc0

            Happy belated birthday ◠‿◠

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Happy belated birthday!

      • b3nc0

        A very mery unbirthday to the rest of us =^__^=

        But a really, truly happy & fullfilling birthday to you Sapfo
        (>^ 3 ^)>

        • Sapfo

          Thank you so much! ^_^

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Happy belated birthday, Sapfo!

  • So close

    • Oh wow, I literally just got to camping, and I’m hardly what you can call awake LOL. I was loading the site in another tab, saw it was up, scrolled down and then I got busy frantic xD
      I had to refresh to see if I got it. I was not expecting this. Well, now I’m suddently awake. This works as well as cold water to get my heart racing :-p

      • SofiaT

        I only realised because of your comment disqus notification on my email. Without Alex announcing the page being in the oven I thought we still had some time. Sneaky Alex!

      • Ha! Glad to be of assistance. I thought I had it, about to type mine, but then your post came.

        I only checked on a whim.

  • The poor baby! Gave me a kick to the heart to see that tear.

    But that last panel is the awesome

  • SofiaT

    I thought he wasn’t supposed to tell anyone?

    • I don’t know how else he could have gotten to him. But at least it’s only Flyboy and Spooky

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      But did you noticed that the three seem to be the most supportive ones?

      • SofiaT

        Yeah, but still. Does Kyle know they’re all coming? :o/

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Ready or not, here they come! lol

      • Derkins

        At least they can figure out where to go from here, together.

    • He’d have to tell at least to ask someone to take his place on night duty, I think. It’s also possible he suspected some kind of trap, given the emphasis on coming alone.

  • SofiaT

    Also, the music theme from Harry Potter just started playing in my head 😀

    • Choreocrat

      I didn’t before, but now I do. Let’s hope there’s no whomping willow waiting for them.

    • Maria White

      No no no…
      I CAN SHOW YOU THE WORLD!

      SHINING SIMMERING SPLENDOR!

      • That’s song IMO is one long metaphorical ‘first time sex’ song. Go listen to the lyrics and think about it:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLOCAWkRoc

        Right now the ‘sex-song’ is in the ‘too soon’ category 😉
        (did I just ruin your childhood?)

        • Choreocrat

          Oh dear deities all… You’re right.

        • Maria White

          I’ve long since stopped feeling my childhood die from random people on the internet. Particularly with my… own thoughts as a child going into ‘awakening’.

        • Of course it is!

          Why did I not see that before?

  • Sapfo

    Tears!

    But that car is cool!

  • jreed3842

    YAY! Kyle’s finally about to get some clothes! That’s all I’ve been worried about. Poor guy’s been naked for ages.

  • SofiaT

    So I assume super-strength is another one of Flyboy’s powers?

    …and yes, I choose to ignore that tear for now or my heart will break if I think about it too much.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      He could have powers like Kon-El’s (a Superboy that’s a hybrid alien).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_%28Kon-El%29

      • SofiaT

        Isn’t Superboy Superman’s clone?

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          He started off as a clone of Superman but then they ret-conned it and said he was a human with Superman’s DNA added in. Then he was Superman’s genetic love-child with Lex Luthor (this happened in the comics several years before the TV show Smallville). Now Superboy (Conner Kent/Kon-El) was the clone of Jon Lane Kent (son of Superman and Lois Lane) with some other non-human/non-Kryptonian DNA added in. He’s currently dead again as of Superman #25. DC comics brings him back to life and kills him off again every few years and they tweak his back story when they do.

          http://www.dccomics.com/comics/superman-2011/superman-25

          • SofiaT

            *sigh*

            I can’t keep up with all these changes.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Why keep up? They’ll just ret-conn everything in 6 months or so!

          • Ah, the comic-verse way to renewal when a character is drawn to be the same age year after year. ‘Erase/forget’ earlier versions and build a new story twist. It can be confusing, but it’s one of the many things you just have to go with and not question – like the lack of zippers and underwear lines showing in those tight, tight uniforms it seems impossible to get in xD

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Spider-Man doesn’t wear underwear. It chafes.

          • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

            Technically, he started off as Superman having adventures when he was a boy. He didn’t become a separate character until after the “Death of Superman” storyline in the 1990’s. And now, if I’m not mistaken, the “New 52” version is the evil alternate-future offspring of Superman and Lois (who in this timeline are sleeping with other people, not each other). They just killed off a clone of this guy.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Technically they didn’t show Kon-El’s death but yeah he was “alive” for about 6 months and now he’s been replaced with a new Superboy.

    • You can’t ignore it. It’s heart-wrenching color on the silhouette of our superhero is meant to disarm and concern the reader. You must feel those feels. FEEEEEEEEL THEM!

  • Sapfo

    Wait now Paul! Did not Kyle want you to come alone?

    • Ellen Harman

      Probably got caught getting Kyle’s clothes and insisted on coming along.

  • Amanda

    Oh Kyle, if only I were there to walk you through your first walk of shame. Ahhh, the humiliation of having a cop tap on a fogged up window, and then looking at you and saying, “hey, I know your dad!”

    • Ellen Harman

      His mother tapped on the window.

  • Tina

    This will be interesting to see Flyboy’s expression. Seeing as he’s the youngest. Also how far away was this secret mountain that it took 57 minutes to get a flying car over?

  • SofiaT

    I love that it’s not “an hour later” but “57 minutes later”. 😛

  • I love how Spooky has his feet on the dash. Just sitting back chilling

    • SofiaT

      And did you notice Paul’s look?

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        very worried. Spooky is having a good time.

        • Takehai

          I’m not worried about Spooky. I think there is a good chance he has already guessed about Kyle being gay. Flyboy/Mitch will be like, “Dude, you’re gay? Cool!” Fluke/Paul is the one who is probably going to be a little speechless at first, but will be completely supportive once he wraps his head around it. IMO, probably the three best teammates who he could have in this situation.
          ( Now, Alex, don’t let me down. . . )
          As far as Spooky being not so concerned right now, I’m gonna hazard a guess that he thinks he is just rescuing Kyle from an awkward situation. Which it is, but so much more than that as well. Once he learns of the full situation, I think he will become very serious.

          • Derkins

            I think if his friends weren’t supportive and instead made him feel worse than he already does, that would be character murder. As in, their characters would be irredeemable. But like Kyle they’re good people. Though some of them might be surprised, or like you said, speechless at first, I can’t fathom that anyone of Kyle’s friends are going to do wrong by him at this point. I’m fully convinced having “passed through the threshold,” that we’re entering the “tests, allies, enemies” part of the story. Obviously tests and enemies are waiting for our young heros. But more importantly: allies.

        • I think his expression will change once he sees the wherehouse and either senses or realizes there has been some serious magic there.

          • Derkins

            One way or the other I imagine they’ll have a lot of questions after seeing the place, and the condition that Kyle is in. :/

      • He looks a little car sick.

        • SofiaT

          He looks half-worried about Kyle and half-frustrated with Spooky.

          • That too. He might not have wanted to say anything to anyone, but maybe it was Spooky’s car? And Spooky wasn’t going to let his car go without Spooky.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Whether Paul was supposed to bring them or not, Kyle needs them. They will be very supportive if Kyle chooses to reveal everything.

          • They might already know he’s gay. Fingers crossed

          • Sapfo

            You mean know like this?

            Kyle: “There is something I want to tell you all.”
            Others: “Oh what is that?”
            Kyle: “Well you know… I don´t… I kind of…”
            Others: “Are you trying to get out of the closet?”

            Kyle: “How did you know?”
            Others: “Oh we known for a long time. We where just waiting for you to be ready to tell us.”
            Kyle: “….and you are okay with it?”
            Others: “Jupp! You are our Kyle!” ^_^

          • Just so! 😀

          • I hope it goes that way. 😀

          • SofiaT

            I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

          • It would be really cool if they did. And if they didn’t well that it just doesn’t matter.

          • mogoskier

            I actually hope it doesn’t go that way, if only because Kyle might be even harder on himself them he is now.

          • Maybe. He also might not have been ready to say anything. Now that he is… who knows.

  • Toli Bera

    Team Dudebro Ara Rescote!

  • This is sooooooo gonna suck for Kyle. I’m sure they guys will be supportive… tho I don’t know how they’re gonna react to the whole demon thing. Oh man. I just keep thinking a hole in the ground could be an option. For crawling into to hide.

    • Derkins

      Hopefully they’ll realize just how much of a trauma Kyle went thorough when they hear that part of the story, blaming Duncan, and not Kyle, the victim. And then hopefully they will convince Kyle that it’s not his fault… :'(

      • Steven K.

        YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        LOVE that comment. Thank you!

  • Choreocrat

    Nice landscape, too. So easy to gloss over backgrounds if you’re not paying attention (or if you’re doing an OMG-must-read-the-whole-back-catalogue binge).

  • I really like this page even though it’s still sad with Kyle crying.

    The fact that Kyle cussed when asking for clothes, for me shows me a sparkle of something else than just sadness – it shows anger, defiance.. I’m not sure what to name it.

    But Kyle is cussing, and I actually take it as a bit of positive. Kyle doesn’t normally cuss.

    Then there’s the last panel. Flyboy being able to lift a car is pretty cool, and a very practical way to transport a car faster somewhere until you know what you’re ‘meeting’. I think he took the other two with him for back-up, and of course Flyboy also for transport faster, but I don’t think he’s told them anything yet.

    Fluke looks worried, but I don’t think he has given the others details about the call. Flyboy looks concentrated while flying but Spooky looks way too comfy to have been told troublesome news. I think that expression will change soon.

  • O_O!
    Goddamn it, Alex. That tear. That TEAR. T_T It has me all choked up. I love this page. Just the expressions on the boy’s faces as they fly in that car. Concern, amusement, confusion. LOVE it.

    • SofiaT

      Flyboy seems determined too, like he’s concentrating to do a good job.

      I guess with him being the youngest he always feels like he has to prove himself?

      • I don’t think it’s that easy to fly with a heavy car and keep it steady. I would look really concentrated too 😉 .. but yes, I bet he’s eager to prove himself a good teammember.

        • It’s like a puppy.
          “Flyboy do good? Yaaayy! Treat o.o”

        • Jamie Dutton

          Maybe Spooky cast a spell to make the car lighter or something like that?

          • Maybe but it’s still a balance act to keep it level with two people in it 🙂
            And I kinda think Mitch is that strong, or at least pretty strong. Flying is a really cool ability, but I think it takes more than that to be eligible for a hero-team.

          • Adam Black

            maybe the car is on an invisible dragon, and flyboy is just keeping it balanced

          • Steven K.

            🙂

          • Adam Black

            that did sound kind of xrated didnt it?

          • There was a magical tail behind it. You never know.

  • Fairy Godfeather

    Oh Kyle. Poor Kyle. I love the expressions on this page.

    I’m glad that Fluke has Spooky and Flyboy with him.

  • Kyle: I did a bad thing. Halp.
    Fluke: :(??
    Kyle: Bring me some fucking clothes, buddy
    Fluke: O_O!?
    ENTER THE CALVARY!

  • i love how unimpressed paul’s looking.

    (hey, you should use this opportunity to flex your powers!)

  • Sapfo

    I really like the last panel. They all three have different emotions that I feel is very clear. Flyboy is concentrated on what he does (do not dump the car), Fluke looks sad or just very serious (maybe Kyle told little more than what we saw him) and then Spooky, he looks a bit too easygoing / happy .

    • I’m wondering if there isn’t much that Spooky takes seriously.

      • davefragments

        Think about Spooky’s powers — his bad luck is someone else’s good luck.

        • That’s Fluke’s powers.

          • davefragments

            loops that’s what waking up a 5am to an errant alarm clock that sounds like a smoke detector does to me…

          • It happens to all of us on occasion. 🙂

      • Sapfo

        Thats good for Spooky being positive, but sometimes it is not wrong to take things a little more serious

        • He might get more serious when he realizes exactly what happened. Until now, they’re rescuing a buddy.

          • Sapfo

            Lets hope so for Kyles sak. (if not it is the easygoing Spooky that Kyles need to feel better)

          • Indeed so.

          • Adam Black

            i disagree. They are going to need a team leader who stays calm.

            What counts is how heroic Spooky acts, not if he fills in the the emotional dots of others expectations, and gets carried away with all the drama.

            Spooky is the least likely to panic when Kyle tells all, and take Kyles side—-regardless of the gay stuff, the demon stuff and the magic forces involved.

            Having a cool headed leader is important when there are youger team members like flyboy naturally looking for guidance.

            Spookys calm will be a good balance if Paul is sufficiently shocked.

          • Steven K.

            I think you are correct – just think there was a bit of a semantics miscommunication of what was meant by “easygoing”, though that’s my interpretation. I shouldn’t speak for Sapfo’s intentions – that’s just how I read it.

          • Adam Black

            we’ll see.

            someones going to see Kyle naked…

          • Steven K.

            I understand what you are trying to say and would tend to agree with that. I think “easygoing” = “not taking things too seriously – or seriously enough” in this context? You can be calm and collected without being “easygoing” in that sense.

        • mogoskier

          He thinking that he helping his friend though his first walk of shame and if I am reading him right he has gone though a few of thoughts. He most likely remembering his first one.

          • Steven K.

            Though I really wouldn’t call this a typical “walk of shame” type of situation, and I’m not sure I’m comfortable with that term that many have used for this instance. I think if someone totally deludes someone, makes himself seem everything he’s not, then hurts them, abuses them, violates them, then leaves them stranded, etc. – it’s not quite the same sort of thing. I don’t think Kyle did anything that I’d personally call “shameful”, though he might FEEL “ashamed” about some things. It’s like someone going out on a date with someone who seems, from everything that can be deduced, a really great guy, but then goes a little further than is expected or desired at the moment, but won’t take “no” for an answer, then gets angry then commits an act of sexual violence – I don’t think the victim should necessarily be seen as a subject for shame and ridicule. And, even in less serious circumstances, if something intimate/sexual ended up happening with someone I really liked, but left me in perhaps somewhat awkward circumstances (maybe we fall asleep at his place, but he has to get up early to go to work but I’m still deep asleep and he doesn’t want to wake me but he feels comfortable enough and trusting enough of me to leave me there at his place), but then when I need to leave, it might be awkward exiting his place if there are lots of other people around (like in a dorm or something, and especially if I’m not “out”, etc.) – I would still think that I haven’t done anything to be ashamed of. If it’s a guy I still really liked, and I enjoyed our time together, and feel like he’s a good person and was nice to be with, I wouldn’t feel bad about it and would try to leave with my “head up high”, instead of feeling like I had something to be ashamed of. I think Sofia mentioned something like that a page or two ago?

          • mogoskier

            No I don’t think Kyle should feel any shame nor do I think that anybody has the right to make him feel so. I’m just using the term because I don’t know what else to call it. What i’m saying is that spooky thinks he helping an embarrassed friend in a situation he most likely has been in and doesn’t know how serious the situation is.

          • Steven K.

            Yeah – I understand.

        • Adam Black

          I see it as emotional freedom.

          What matters is he responds appropriately to external conditions, not whether he beats himself up overthings he didnt cause in order to motivate himself to act approriately.

          Most humans have these two mixed up.

          I think he probably has a bit of an evil sense of humor that will come out when he needs to inflict a little justice. KInd of like a Good Joker

          • Sapfo

            ADAM!!! *TALKING-HUG*
            Where have you been? o.O I missed you on the other page.

            Good Joker, that sounds like a oxymoron. But If he do know what happened to Kyle and he still smiles…. Its just odd.
            However it might be that he just enjoying a flying car 😉

          • Adam Black

            Thanks

            ((Hugg))

            My sleep schedule is wicked messed up up.

            I woke up at 1 am.

            Its crazy that its like this without even drinking, drugs, partying , or even going out.

            Peter Parker is a wise ass when he hides his face.

            Then there is this guy :
            http://www.superstupor.com/sust12282010.shtml

          • Did you remember to carry the stupid? HA!

          • Adam Black

            I think it was never finished

          • Considering the last comic was posted last year…you may have something there.

          • Sapfo

            Well you don´t need to go out. You can stay here with us ^_~

          • Steven K.

            Do you mean that we should ALWAYS motivate ourselves to act appropriately FIRST, but THEN not beat ourselves up if our correct (for all we could deduce beforehand) actions don’t work out, especially if the actions we took were not the cause of the failure? (Such as acting appropriately but our intended result not panning out because someone else interfered and messed things up – but we should not keep wondering if we could have done something differently in order to prevent the unforeseen interference – that sort of thing?) On a less serious note: “a bit of an evil sense of humor that will come out when he needs to inflict a little justice” – reminds me of a certain person’s replies to some of my comments 😉

          • Adam Black

            takes one to know one?
            I think spooky is more innocent.

          • Adam Black

            that all sounds good and rational, but I was talking preemptively, ( where you are taklking about after the fact )

            It isnt necessary to cause yourself pain in advance, to prove you are sincere to a group .

            I am saying spooky can be take the sitaution as lightly as he needs to, for himself, to lead and act appropriately.
            What counts , is that hehelps his friends, leads , and fights evil. I was going to say, and ‘knows when to stop joking’, but really, he can joke and fight if thats his style.
            I am saying he doesnt have act serious, about being serious.
            I was talking about how people demand and expect certain emotions to shape our actions, when it may actually be uneccesary and innapropraote for a person with a different cogniive style to emotionally react with all the drama around them

      • Adam Black

        I think that depends on how you define serious.

        I suspect his magic allows him to see the illusory nature of reality and take it a little lighter

        • There is that. Or he could just be a bit irreverent. Or he doesn’t know just how serious the situation is yet, just picking up a bud on his birthday.

          • Adam Black

            we will see.
            I think he will be equally irreverent when he fights.
            Shades of spiderman

          • The motto of this comic. We will see!

  • I wonder sometimes if Alex posts these pages and then watches with amusement as we spin our own little tale in the comments.

  • It’s possible that some of Kyle’s tears are out of frustration.

    • I think they are both frustration and remorse. From what it sounds like, his childhood was hell and when he finally was able to trust someone so completely that he opened his body to them, he was betrayed.
      I think Kyle will have trouble trusting from now on.

      • A good possibility. Or he just may never see a possible good in any villain again. I know, that’s being a little too optimistic, but hey, why not.

        • The thing is, I think he does still see the good in Anni, and I think that he does still want something between them and that is a lot of the frustration. He knows that he shouldn’t but he can’t help it.

          • Isn’t that the way after a breakup of a sort, lingering feelings and wanting?

          • Yyyyyup. Wanting to believe that there was some good to it when perhaps there never really was.

            For what it’s worth, I like Duncan/Anni and I really do believe that he is a redeemable character. We just need to get past this hurdle.

          • Me too.

          • I’m glad I’m not alone there. There is some major Anni hate out there. >_<

          • Choreocrat

            I can understand it. I’m just not over my own… erm… issues. And I’m a fan of the redeemed badboy archetype.

          • SofiaT

            Definitely not alone. 🙂

          • Definitely not alone. Got no hate for him. Disappointment yes. Hate, indeed not.

            I keep seeing him and Kyle having weekly coffee meet ups. Chat about their week, stuff they’re up to. lol

          • o_o
            Along with Anni proposing to Kyle and asking Laampros for permission, I think this has to be my second favorite visual.

          • I did a little write up about it a bunch of pages ago. I need to find it. I just don’t know on which page it was.

          • Them having coffee together?

          • Yup.

          • Ooooohhh want to read…

          • I’m trying to find it. I’ll repost it if I do. 🙂

          • OK 🙂

          • Found it!

            Kyle looking exasperated. “Did you have to set that building on fire? Again?”
            “It was a different kind of fire and it keeps you on your toes. Did you have to stop that bank heist? It was only a few bonds?”
            “You don’t need any more money.”
            “I just gave to charity. And donated blood.”
            “And I’m very proud of you, but you still don’t need the money.”

          • I like that lol.
            When I get my tablet up and running (aka get a new one), I will do a little 4komi of this. It’s cute. 🙂

          • It needs to be immortalized!

          • Steven K.

            Actually, I like that.. I could have seen that sort of banter even if they had become bf/bf – working out some of the inevitable kinks in their relationship (though would have been better if Duncan had indeed given up major criminal activity, but once in awhile some of his dastardly tendencies might slip out in some fashion).

          • Steven K.

            Actually, if things had turned out differently (maybe there’s some tiny shred of hope hidden somewhere that they still might?) – I have to say that THAT would have been awesome!

          • Steven K.

            May have agreed with you up to a point – but after the way Duncan left Kyle (and the way we have seen that it left Kyle feeling, tears and all) – umm…yeah….kinda finally actually got some hate kindled there from me. Can’t say that this won’t change under some very extraordinary circumstances – but for the moment, the scales have been tipped for me. However, before all of the bad stuff, I really REALLY loved the idea of them as a couple, working around all the problems inherent in such a coupling, battling all the different prejudices against them and their “union” together – showing that love and affection is stronger than young/old, labels of hero/”villain”, gay/straight, etc.

          • Steven K.

            I’m not so sure of that at this point. I think he feels devastated by Duncan, and I don’t know how he would EVER trust him again after this. I think Kyle has prob. learned THAT lesson at least as well as it is possible to learn. Right now, I think he’d just as soon scorch Duncan’s skin off as even let him come near him, let alone touch him, again.

        • Choreocrat

          Unfortunately true. I’m hoping that Kinzie’s idea wins. He’ll get over his trust issues, but if he’s not seeing good in people, he’s lost part of his humanity. And if what Laampros said is true, he should hold onto what he has.

          • I’d like to see him keep his idealism very much.

          • Choreocrat

            Ditto. It’s part of his adorableness. He saw good in Duncan, when Duncan wasn’t really trying to communicate “I’m good” so much as “I’m hot for you”. Whether the good Kyle saw was actually there is still up for grabs.

          • Very true, very very true.

          • Steven K.

            I’ll ditto your ditto. And I really like your comment!

          • Steven K.

            YES! I would as well, if it’s still possible now.

          • Steven K.

            Well said.

      • rgleon9986

        Most of all, he’s going to have huge psychological issues about sex. Not just the guilt of hurting his foster sister and losing his family, but also of possibly putting the world in danger of being taken over by a demon lord. He’s had his trust shattered, and every time he’s had a sexual experience, people have been put into danger. All of that is weighing on him right now.

        • Yeah. Can you imagine? The first time I touched myself, I hurt someone and burned down a house. The first time I had sex, I brought on the apocalypse and you’re saying you want to do WHAT now?!

          • rgleon9986

            Poor Kyle. 🙁

          • I want to give him so many hugs. 🙁

      • b3nc0

        And as his sense of trust is at its weakest, he’s waiting for his besty alone & a change of clothes & *SHBAM* they’re 3 of them coming in on him naked (with the youngest of the group too!)
        That won’t half-help heal his trust…

        • Steven K.

          Yeah – that’s what several of us seem to be worrying about. Better than the whole team though.

  • KrisYWC

    Of course they all come.

    • Jamie Dutton

      They probably caught Paul trying to sneak out.

    • Jeh Y

      But did Kyle?

      *crickets*

      • rgleon9986

        Womp womp.

  • Jeh Y

    Oh god. As much as I love Spooky, I’m a bit anxious to see how he handles a naked, traumatized, depressed, angry Kyle.

    Paul looks worried. I hope he’ll be a good friend to Kyle even after knowing the truth.

    …And for some reason, the thought of Flyboy reacting to it all just makes me lol and lol. As does Spooky’s chilled-out posture.

    • Hi Jeh! Have you verified your email with Discus yet? Your comments keep getting stuck in moderation. And if you have, on occasion it takes more than once. Or if you’ve changed emails, the new email needs to be verified.

      • Jeh Y

        Well, now, that solved that. Thanks! I was a bit curious, but figured it was a probationary thing.

        • Mighty welcome! I wondered the same thing when I first started commenting. Yup just a quick verification. 🙂

  • Jamie Dutton

    So does anyone know what kind of car that is? Well, besides a flying red one, I mean.

    • rgleon9986

      I mean, I think flyboy is making it fly.

      • Jeh Y

        I can see “To embrace a stereotype is to control it” Spooky opting out of driving, throwing up his hands and saying “Asian”, thus letting him chill out while Flyboy does the work.

        (Granted, that would make Spooky a bit of a dick, but I like layers.)

    • Sapfo

      “Dad can drive. He’s bound to have some classic mid-life crisis transport. Something red, shiny, shaped like a penis.” 😉

      • Ha!

      • Choreocrat

        Spooky is Giles now?

        • Sapfo

          Is he not the oldest one? 😉

          (I wondered if anyone would get the reference)

          • Choreocrat

            But somewhat lacking in the fatherly approach.

          • Sapfo

            Can´t get it all.

    • Marie Laurent

      It’s got an old pontiac front end, but it doesn’t look directly like any particular car.

    • That is most definitely a Pontiac GTO. Seems to have had some minor modifications though.

    • CH

      It’s certainly not Lola.

  • Steven K.

    He’s CRYYYYYING again! Means my heart being torn up all over again as well. When/how is this poor kid going to find some comfort and relief and happiness?? Once h does, maybe I can start to feel it again as well.

  • dereule101

    I would be sooooo mad if I told someone to come alone and he brought people!

    • Me too. Not going to lie, I would burn them to a crisp.
      “I SAID COME ALONE!” *poof*
      Then again, I’m weird.

      • dereule101

        Especially after just having one’s trust so epically violated.

    • Yes, Kyle might be upset. Looking at the time being almost an hour later, and that’s with Flyboy taking the straight rute, I think Fluke went with faster arrival rather than taking hours to get there. And I think he’s doing it the smart way since he’s not really knowing what has happened except Kyle is in trouble. Fluke’s powers isn’t covering fast transport, and what if he got struck by bad luck on the way?

      He might make the others wait outside and such, but a bit of back-up is good. I don’t think Fluke knows any details yet, other than Kyle is somewhere in the mountains, naked, crying and alone.

    • Jeh Y

      But what if he brought pizza with the people?

      • dereule101

        I would scowl as I ate pizza.

  • Hours

    So does Flyboy have super strength? Or is it Spooky magic holding the car up?

    • I think that’s Spooks holding up the car

    • lol.. I’m going opposite Kinzie and say that I think Flyboy is pretty strong. Of course he could have some help from Spooky to make the car lighter as well. Looking at that speed line after the car, he’s flying fast. So I go with strong Flyboy or both options 🙂

      • lol You would, Wolf. You would

      • Sapfo

        Maybe it is not him being strong, but he can make other things fly then just himself. But the car is so big so he have to hold on to it so controll the movement.

        • Steven K.

          That’s a very point of speculation!

        • b3nc0

          And maybe he needs to be out of the car to act as a plane’s stabilizer, rudder & elevator and control directions?

      • arobynbird

        Depends on how he flies. If his powers work on making himself and thing he touches lighter, then he could easily move a car with people in it. or it could be some kind of telekinetic thing.

      • rgleon9986

        I think the current understanding of Superman’s ability to carry large objects, especially while flying, is that these are all just expressions of a central telekinetic power. If Superman were actually carrying large objects like that, especially at the speeds he does, they’d fall apart. However, if he extends the some kind of field around an object when he picks it up, it would be able to withstand much more structural stress.
        This “telekinetic field” also supposedly explains his durability. It extends a few inches from his skin, and explains why his suit is usually undamaged by large explosions and such, but his cape is always torn up. The cape isn’t within that tiny force field his body produces. His superstrength is a type of tactile telekinesis. Even his heat vision is simply a telekinetic field projecting from his eyes, speeding up the molecules of the air or whatever matter they meet.
        In any case, assuming that the flight ability is simply “auto-telekinesis,” Fly-boy may have the same ability to extend his “flight-field” around objects he touches.

        • Unless they just didn’t want to draw a half naked Superman?

          • arobynbird

            but why not?

          • Foolishness? Cause who wouldn’t want to see a half-naked Superman?

          • rgleon9986

            … I don’t understand. “Don’t want to draw half-naked Superman.” Nope, doesn’t compute. Where do you get such silly ideas?

          • Well, you know, back in the day. What of Super-Girl? Do they show her outfit ever getting torn, cause is they do… -_-

          • rgleon9986

            😛 You know I kid. Although, I seem to remember that a certain illustrator decided he was going to draw Power Girl’s bust bigger and bigger every issue to see how long it would go before someone called him out on it.

          • So how long did that take to get called out?

          • rgleon9986

            “Okay. When the character was created Wally Wood was the artist that drew Power Girl, and he was convinced that the editors were not paying attention to anything he did. So, his inker said every issue I’m going to draw the tits bigger until they notice it. It took about seven or eight issues before anyone was like hey, what’s with the tits? And that’s where they stopped. True story.”
            Found here: http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/post/1367739075/boobwindow

          • Good grief. 😛

          • rgleon9986

            And it’s weird, because I actually liked one of the panels below that, where some other superhero tried to give her an insignia that essentially looked like superman’s and she responded by calling him a chauvanist and that she was her own woman, a superhero in her own right, and didn’t need reference her cousin (superman) to be an effective hero. I thought that was a really great statement of character for her. Of course, that was pre-“boob window” era.

          • Sigh. That boob window… -_-

          • rgleon9986

            And then they tried to justify it, too. I mean, I know those of us who really like to immerse ourselves into the universes of our fandoms like continuity and internal explanations for everything… but come on. Fanservice THAT obvious should just be ignored, or given a goofy explanation and not some emotional sob story like they tried to do with the “boob window.” It was ridiculous.

          • They always try to justify it, but always make it worse.

          • rgleon9986

            Ugh, I KNOW! 😛 Just leave it be. We know you’re just giving the horny guys eye candy. And seriously, I’ve got nothing against eye candy. God knows we’ve got our fair share of it in this comic, for example. And honestly, the guys costumes in a lot of mainstream, big company comics aren’t much less revealing. Skin-tight spandex over large muscles and bulgy crotches? Can you imagine Superman trying to give a “good explanation” for the red briefs?

          • That could be a reason they left them off in MOS. Cause really, why?

          • rgleon9986

            You know, the first time I saw him without them, I thought he looked strangely naked. Weird, huh?

          • That might’ve been the reason he had the red shorts on, cause he felt naked.

            But I could never mind watching Henry Cavil in that suit. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Superheroes wear panties?!
            …Now I have a mental image of Peter Parker in pink lace. 😛

          • Yeah, but a pink lace thong or a g-string? Or would he be a bikini man? *snicker*

          • Adam Black

            when men buy them, they are not called “thongs” they are “Y-backed Jocks”.

            Its all about the lift, without squeezing the nads.

            https://www.google.com/search?q=2xist+Y-back+Jocks&num=40&client=firefox-a&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=bq-ZUurdMdWosQSjg4HIAw&ved=0CK0BELAE&biw=853&bih=523

            Its antigravity for everyman

          • Nope, nope, nope. Men don’t get to have a special name for their underwear.

          • Adam Black

            Sorry, they do .
            They cover parts you dont have

            Jocks existed way before thongs, and have functional purposes. Like a sonic screwdriver.

            besides, got the box.

          • Steven K.

            I’d have to agree with AdamB – y’all gals have lots of specially named underwear – esp. for those parts that are uniquely “exaggerated” in the female of the species (although I think, “technically”-speaking, perhaps we should say that they are reduced in males).

          • Adam Black

            I ve got on a pair right now!

          • SofiaT

            I was thinking lace boy-shorts 😀

          • Well he has the right proportions for them. 😀

          • Ohhhh dear… ALEX! Your MODS are into the sauce again and they going crazy with lacy underwear.

            Scary stuff, very scary stuff.

            Oh my. 😀

          • Sapfo

            LACY UNDERWEAR! May I join! ^_^
            I have a corset somewhere, It is in the painfull to wear part of my clothes

          • Adam Black

            “spins a web,

            ‘any size’

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eII16DSHqfA

          • Adam Black

            he probably spins it himself,

            It conveniently disssolves , so he doesnt have to wash them

          • Adam Black

            He used to wear black lace, but it turned out to be a conscious alien symbiote who obviously mistook his crotch riding for a mutually intimate relationship.

            Its been a Jilted exlover ever since. Sometimes Peter is just clueless with these things .

          • I hate to tell you, but the symbiote says it dumped your crotch, not the other way around… mmmm… some things never change.

          • Adam Black

            Bullshit, hes been trying to get back on Peters Jock for decades.

          • Ooookay, as I said, some things never change…

          • b3nc0
          • Who wouldn’t want to do that?

          • I know!

        • SofiaT

          In Birthright you can see his torso from his ripped uniform 😀 http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/blogs/lists/supermanbirthright.jpg

          The rules change all the time. In other stories, the cape is invincible too and he uses it to cover those who need protection from bullets etc.

          • rgleon9986

            Oh, yeah, the field isn’t impenetrable, even when it’s part of the canon. Superman still gets injured, and even the suit still gets torn. And of course, you’re absolutely right, the cape IS sometimes invulnerable as well.

          • Adam Black

            Where is the pink Kryptonite when you need it

          • Such a complicated color for a young man.

          • Adam Black

            pink?

          • Well if you can save the world in pink then go to it? I’m not sure I’m that secure… rough childhood.

          • pink is evil. Even Voldemort had a pair of evil pink bunny slippers. And Umbrige practically drowned in that color. Nough side.

          • Adam Black

            Pink was a popular surf color in the 80s.
            Even my Gf bought me a pink shirt.
            ( dont read into that )

        • illusionweaver

          Superman doesn’t have telekinetic abilities. Instead, he’s able to perform the feas you describe by manipulating his bio-electric field. It’s the cause of his invulerability to all things nomagical.

          • rgleon9986

            I know he doesn’t have “telekinesis” per se, but I thought they’d labeled his various powers as being related to that kind of manipulation of matter and energy.

  • arobynbird

    Id at least be glad that Tsunami is not in the car, he seems to be the most homophobic. Because it looks like he may have to come out. Though with his powers it might not be unusual that he loses his close. I don’t think there is a big line of flame retardant clothing, so he might be able to cover with out coming out.

    • flame821

      All they would really know is that Kyle is in the mountains, in a warehouse, alone and naked. Anything else would have to be Kyle’s to tell. Although, considering what he just saw with that demon, I think he’ll need to at least give them some details, but perhaps skip over the more personal/intimate ones.

      • Steven K.

        Yep. I hope he’ll find a nice balance of what is necessary and what he doesn’t absolutely HAVE to mention concerning the intimate parts. Cuz I’m also worried about the psycho-sexual effects / aftereffects. He doesn’t need more shame than what he’s already experiencing internally.

  • CH

    Spooky looks like he’s having too much fun here. I hope it’s lack of info and not callousness.

    • Steven K.

      Yeah – I was wondering about that – would expect some looks of concern/worry.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Paul may not have told him what is happening, especially if he was not supposed to bring him along.

    • He may just think he’s “rescuing” a buddy from a night of partying not actually rescuing Kyle. If that makes sense.

      • CH

        That’s what I’m hoping for. “Dude, what did you DO?” smirking.

        • Exactly. Of course I see him getting very serious real quick once he realizes shit when down.

          • Steven K.

            I would have thought that Fluke would convey (to the others) how fragile and broken Kyle sounded when he talked to him – unless there just wasn’t time, but during the trip there would certainly have been time to discuss the nature of Kyle’s situation.

        • Jeh Y

          “You know that demon you were going to have eat the computer?”

          “Yeah?”

          “Weeeeeeeeeeell… he came out of me.”

          “Huh. Motherfucker.”

    • arobynbird

      I wonder if he is the type that thinks, no matter how bad it is going to be when we get there, that’s no reason not to enjoy the trip. I mean, a cool car that’s flying and its a beautiful night. I mean if your life is full of crisis you have to take advantage of every good moment you can find.

      • CH

        Good point: flying car, pretty mountains and all.

    • I think once he sees the warehouse, Spooky’ll pick up very quickly on what really happened there and change his tune. At the moment, for all he knows, Kyle has been on a crazy drunken birthday escapade. 🙁

      • Steven K.

        Makes me wonder what the drinking age is in their location.

        • ….when have teenagers, even the good ones, paid attention to the drinking age for a celebration?

          • Steven K.

            Well, as some here would say – as a superhero, he should certainly respect the laws – that would seem to be among his minimum responsibilities.

          • HA! So true.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Well I know a few, me included. It is easy to follow the law if you have been raised in a community rejecting alcohol and with all you friends having been raised the same way you’d be the odd one out drinking at any celebration.

    • I want to believe what @disqus_mdUEg8bexU:disqus posted. That part of Spooky’s inner Zen power is a practiced living in the moment. Dude is momentarily in a flying car… a very COOL flying car that I personally WANT. HA.

      So I hear what you’re saying, but I hope Spooky will take each moment as it comes and when he sees Kyle he’ll be 100% there to help him. Who couldn’t. Crap, he makes me cry.

      Spooky was one of the coolest and most caring and open re the porn, in the interlude. If anyone is going to understand human nature and the pickle a needy Kyle got himself into… I suspect Spooks will.

      Hope!

  • Sargon

    That’s an odd way to travel. LOL at least it saves on gas. I don’t think Fluke did a good deed by bring those two. I mean Kyle seems so upset, if he sees those two, he might more upset since he wanted Fluke to come alone. But I get Fluke wanting to be a good friend and all. I hope those two stay outside.

    • Heather Elder

      I think it is important to note he brought the 2 others Kyle is also really close to, and the ones who did not seem so bothered by the guy on guy fanpage and so hopefully be ok with Kyles sexuality.

      • Sargon

        yea but why on earth did it take them so long?? poor kyle. Fluke said 45 mins for the whole team but 57mins for just two people?? oh, I want to give Kyle a hug! He needs one!

        • arobynbird

          the extra time is most likely argument he didn’t win

          • That’s what I was thinking.

          • Sargon

            true…but I just want him to get to him so badly! that and I wondered what Fluke was thinking of when Kyle asked for clothes.

          • Dude, just what were you up to for your birthday?

          • Steven K.

            Well, what’s more appropriate than wearing one’s “birthday suit”?

          • Adam Black

            someone else’s

          • Steven K.

            Maybe “having” or “access to” someone else’s, but literally “wearing” someone else’s would be something out of “Silence of the Lambs” (unless it’s from some dead furry creature – then you just have to worry about attack by PETA followers).

          • Adam Black

            I am sure you are also just filled with stories about Cannabilistic tribes at inoppprtune moments when eating meataphors are invoked.

            You are confusing “wear” with literally being inside anothers skin, as oposed to simply having it on you

          • Steven K.

            I’m not confused about anything – it’s just that we know how unfunny I am, so I just keep trying to practice such things as has been advised so that might change someday.

          • Bravo!

          • Adam Black

            literalist humor is easily misunderstood,
            it requires something extra or people may not think you are in on your own joke. funny voices. links. something to put a bowtie around it

          • Steven K.

            Oh – for that I’ll have to ask Saxon (Mr.Brenton).

          • Adam Black
          • Steven K.

            Oh – he’s one of our fellow commentators here. His avatar pic has a green suit and hat and bow-tie.

          • Adam Black

            disqus wouldnt load on the page for me last night.
            I can only see people I follow

          • Adam Black

            I found him on 4, but didqus stopped loading again..
            im locked out page 3

          • It puts the lotion in the bucket!!!!

          • Adam Black

            of course

          • Hi. There you are. Thought you got caught by questionable super villains or something. Good to see you.

          • Adam Black

            QSILGF?
            thx

          • No prob.

          • HA

        • rgleon9986

          Fluke may have been struggling with whether or not he wanted to include others, considering that one of the first things that Kyle said was not to call anyone else.

          • Well, he had to get clothes for Kyle, which he didn’t need know until after that estimate, he also needed to work out a way to get to Kyle without using resources that he would have to explain to everyone.

        • Guest

          true…but I just want him to get to him so badly! that and I wondered what Fluke thought of when Kyle asked for clothes.

          • arobynbird

            im betting Kyle has asked for that before. epically when he was learning co control his powers. not a lot of flame retardant clothing out there

        • The whole team might have a plane to use. Flyboy is saving them time, but he’s probably not as fast.
          That and the time it took to gather clothes, find new transport options since he couldn’t make it an official alert, and then having the two others coming along. About an hour suddently isn’t such a long time 🙂

  • That last panel should be a print. Or one of the four of them at some other time taking a joy ride.

    • CH

      Mark this Vol. 2 Kickstarter ideas.

    • HA! I knew someone had to have suggested this. Should have known it would be our reliable Admiral. *bows*

  • Donald Burch

    Firstly, kudos to Alex, Adam, and Veronica for a beautiful page. I love how every panel can stand out as an individual framed piece. The use of close up and lighting to indicate Kyle’s trauma strikes me as highly effective and the flying scene evokes both wonder and questions. Given Flyboy’s grip on the car the normal laws of physics clearly aren’t at work. Paul’s worried expression carries over and when I see Spooky, I think about Asian mysticism and training. “live in the moment. At the moment we’re flying and it’s cool. I save my energy and concern for when the time comes.” Mages however young must be masters of themselves. Worry serves no useful purpose and might actually drain vital energy. I’m reminded of a line from “Remo Williams” from Chiun, “Fear is just a feeling. You feel hot. You feel hungry. You feel angry. You feel afraid. Fear can never kill you.”

    • Great post. I particularly liked your take on Spooky near the end. You say what I tried to express, but yours is much better. That’s exactly what he feels like to me… living in the moment. A guy who has found balance in the sense of his inner elements and Asian Mysticism. I don’t know if that’s true, but well said. It’s what he feels like to me. Thanks.

      • Donald Burch

        Thanks Chris, I appreciate your feedback. It shows how much depth Alex instills in his characters when we think about characters in such deep and esoteric ways. I’m glad to not be the only one to note this about Spooky’s behavior. In fact, I wonder how much of his “Spooky” name comes from his seeming untouched by matters and emotions that often overwhelm or preoccupy others. Such behavior might strike others as “spooky.”

  • Dark_Otter

    This is gonna be the most awkward thing ever. Besides the fact that Paul brought other people along… one of them knows all about the Platinum Priestess and could have told Kyle that getting anywhere near her was a bad idea. That… and there’s that little business of having to explain himself… which will essentially mean outing himself…

    • Adam Irving

      One of them knows about the Platinum Priestess? Did I miss some interplay between the youngsters earlier in the comic???

      • SofiaT

        Apparently Spooky has met her before and told Kyle some not very flattering things about her…

        • Adam Irving

          Thank you, I’d completely forgotten that. Makes much more sense now. The perils of having the elements strewn out over months. Thank goodness for those with better memories than me!

    • Emiko

      Maybe Kyle won’t have to out himself! He’ll just have to come up with a very… VERY elaborate kidnapping tale.

      • Steven K.

        Or, as was mentioned above, he could just say he was masturbating, cuz after 6 years of refraining, he just couldn’t hold out any longer.

        • Eight_Rule_Pig

          I don’t care if it burns down my house and kills my neighbors, I couldn’t go six DAYS. Kyle is a true hero.

          • Steven K.

            I KNOW, right? And that’s what I’ve been saying for a while now – that Kyle should be considered a hero even for that alone – cuz that in itself is a truly heroic accomplishment.

  • I ‘stumbled in’ only half awake earlier a couple hours ago, and had an adrenaline wake-up call when the page had literally uploaded. Now that adrenaline is gone and I’m back to being tired, so time to get some more sleep – as the church bells tell me it’s now 8am.

    Night to all going to bed, and have a good day to all who has started the day already. I’ll be back later.

  • Pashakitty

    Well… this could get awkward.

  • 1) Panel 1: Kyle admits he messed up, there is a tear running down his cheek. We can imagine that his words are firm, but heavily tinged with regret/sadness.

    2) Panel 2: Worried Fluke becomes more worried/concerned.

    3) Panel 3: The tear reaches his upper lip and Kyle asks for clothes. Now there are a couple of ways I interpret his request because he says GD. 1) He is channeling the frustrated fans who have wanted him clothed again for weeks. 2)There might be a hint of anger/frustration in the tone, most likely aimed at Anni/Duncan for his lack there of.

    4) Panel 4: Worried Fluke becomes “WTF” worried Fluke. I love how he has to remove the phone from his ear and stare at it with that “just what the hell happened to you” look. The “how the hell did you end up losing your clothes” look.

    5)Last panel: I cannot help it, when I saw this I burst out laughing. Now this is speculating, but I think this was the only way for Fluke to get to Kyle. Since Kyle didn’t want any one to know, Fluke couldn’t ask to borrow the YP jet or other conveyances sponsored by/through the YP group for use. Because that would require paperwork and explanations, which Kyle doesn’t seem up to at the moment. It is also currently a personal problem not a mission problem. i am not sure, but I also do not think that there is a road leading up to this base of Anni/Duncan’s. We saw a helopad, so I think that was how they moved things in and out of the warehouse, either that or via PP Portal. I think the reason that Spooky and Flyboy are there is because Fluke had no other choice in order to get to Kyle.

    6)How I hope/think things will go down: I think Fluke will have Flyboy and Spooky stay with the car while he takes the clothes to Kyle and they have a chat and then they go and talk to the others.

    • SofiaT

      Very good points all of them!

      It hit me earlier that the last panel is a -much needed- comic relief, delivered subtly in a very artful way. Not much mood for jokes right now but I doubt anyone could see that panel and not crack a smile. 🙂

    • anonywolf

      A good analysis – although not sure about how many people were frustrated and wanted Kyle dressed for weeks.

      Personally I thought Kyle looked Red Hot in the nude…

      • I think they were putting his needs above their desires.

        • Steven K.

          YES! THANKS!

      • Steven K.

        Well, of course he did! – Those of us who felt that way wanted it for Kyle’s sake, not our own, so he wouldn’t end up in exactly the situation he’s in – needing to ask for them, having to explain why he’s naked and why he needs them, etc. and this additional shame and humiliation.

        • anonywolf

          Okay – that’s twice now that my joke has somewhat gone awry.

          I DO understand that people were wanting Kyle dressed because they were feeling really badly for him and hated him being in this situation that he’s in right now. I feel bad for him too- its awful he has to go through this.

          But from the perspective of a writer – he DOES have to go through this. Our worst humiliations and moments make up our character traits as we grow in such a fundamental way – both our worst and best. Had I not been pushed into on coming traffic as a child by bullies, almost murdered, and emotionally toyed with by 2 ex partners – I wouldn’t be the same person I am today.

          For us its been weeks – for Kyle its been a matter of hours. I honestly believe that for what Anni has done to him he’ll come out stronger, and possibly kinder and more empathetic. Its some of the last trusting parts of his childhood torn to shreds and that’s ALWAYS painful but its part of growing up. Shame and humiliation is something he needs to become the super hero the writer is envisioning him to become. This whole thing isn’t because the writer is cruel. It is a necessary catalyst.

          You may have wanted Kyle to be dressed, and admittedly there were moments when I was wishing he was dressed too, but over all – I’m not entirely certain that this isn’t actually better for him. At least on a level where you have to get character from point A to point B. The story is Kyle becoming a strong, perhaps even the best, superhero the planet has known. If you’ve seen “Day of the Doctor” the line John Hurt said about how great men are forged in fire kinda resonates with what’s happening to Kyle. There is a LOT of growing up and symbolism of going into this as Kyle went into this a boy (a little naive, trusting, excited and nervous, the little blush) and leaving this situation a man (first major heartbreak, pain, all the stuff you have to deal with involved in becoming an adult minus taxes).

          I made a joke, I do that when something is too dark. I’ve now been told twice that people were complaining for Kyle’s sake.

          Protecting someone from all that’s bad in the world – is not helping them, its hindering them – because you cannot protect them forever and Kyle needs this. He NEEDS to deal with this. He will come out the better for this.

          • Sorry, I should have put my ^_^ with my response to not make it seem so bad. I am usually pretty good about doing that so people don’t take offense. It usually goes a long way. I will fix that. ^_^ And yes Kyle does look “Red Hot in the nude” 😛 Though I would kind of like to see a LEGAL Flyboy…..^_^

    • Denise Cruz

      Great points!

      And I admire your capacity to laugh at last panel! Although it’s, indeed funny, I couldn’t enjoy it so much, ’cause I was still crying at panel three! lol

      But.. do you really believe that someone will keep getting spooky out there, waiting?!

      I also think it would be better this way, but I’m not so sure he’ll agree with us… lol
      Well, we’ll found out soon enough! (almost soon enough! XD)

    • Steven K.

      Great summary. 6 – I think/hope so too.

      • *makes pouty face* Chris’ one is better. My only defense is that I am not a writer, not as awesome, nor as articulate. He probably also used mine as a vague reference to write his. ( 😛 @chrisdangerfield:disqus just kidding!!)

        • Steven K.

          Awwww – But I totally know how you feel, cuz I feel the same way a lot of the time compared to you-know-who 😉 – BUT – we just gotta remember that we are all – each of us – awesome in our own special ways.

  • bronakopdin

    I’m speechless for a couple ofpages… I still so feel Kyle’s misery :(((

  • KrisYWC

    Why is there a flying car?

    • Choreocrat

      Rule of Cool, of course.

    • strangeangel24601

      Why not?

    • Klaus

      Because Flyboy is carrying it.

  • La Belle Gigi

    If i didn’t know this was all scripted out in advance I would have thought the last panel was a shout-out to “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.”, specifically to “Lola”.

  • Kate G

    Uh oh. Things are about to become veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery awkward.

    Poor Kyle. I would seriously not want to be in his position. Poor, poor, poor Kyle.

    Fluke, do you NOT know the meaning of “TELL NO ONE?!” *face palm* I mean, yea, it could mean faster time arrival to tell someone, but frankly, should I be in the SAME EXACT POSITION Kyle was in….I’d take the slower arrival time and the one person humiliation. It’s bad enough dealing with one. Three? That’s just a “Please, Mother Nature, open a giant chasm right where I am and suck me in and then stitch yourself right back up” scenario. Seriously, I’ve been sort of in a similar situation only it involved having to change behind stage in a Catholic school (the stage/gym) and I was by the backstage doors and three girls caught me in only in my panties, socks and Mary Janes because they wanted to investigate the backstage door and purposely humiliate me (didn’t need a bra at that time as I was nine/ten.) YEA. Humiliation at its finest. Cried for a good hour in the bathroom.

    No, only bring the one person. I suspect there will be an argument happening soon.

    • Steven K.

      I feel your pain in that situation. When I was around that age give or take a bit, I was taking a shower and a friend of my father’s came over for a visit, and for some reason he decided he was going to say hello to me – so he wandered into the bathroom and pulled back the shower curtain and said “Hey there – how are you?” I’d say it scared my socks off, but I was already nekkid, AND I was mortified at the same time that he had seen my naked body (I’ve always been painfully shy about such things). I don’t remember what I said or how he left or how I left – all I remember next is running back into my parents’ bedroom with a quilt over me crying in a similar way you describe for a good while. He later came in and tried very sincerely to apologize and saying that he had no idea I was so sensitive about my body and being seen, etc. Def. one of the most awkward moments I can remember. Then later, in junior high, there was the trauma of having to both shower and swim in the nude for phys. ed.

      • Kate G

        Woah, woah, woah….you had to swim…IN THE NUDE?! ACK!!!! Someone hand me a respirator; I think I’m going to faint. I mean, I totally don’t mind the naked body and what not (growing up in a European minded house you get very used to it pretty quickly) but I’m the kind that prefers to be clothed if I leave my room or exercise, thankyouverymuch. I’m a little sensitive being so skinny and all.

        Plus, I managed to get a ticket out of gym in high school, so I never had the pleasure of learning to swim or showering with others. HA HA HA! Although, seriously, I should probably learn how to swim.

        But, seriously, swimming in the nude at school…that would have scarred me for life. Having to change in the locker rooms was bad enough if you ask me.

        • Steven K.

          I KNOW! I’ve always felt/been the same way as you, so you can imagine how it was for me to actually have to go through something like that. I pretty much WAS rather traumatized from it all. Anyway, that’s probably one more reason I’m so sensitive and empathetic to Kyle’s situation! I feel EVERY SINGLE BIT of his uncomfortableness.

          • Kate G

            That is so awkward. Gaaaaaaaah. That is a reason to go to the doctor and get a pass out of gym for life (I got one for asthma and I did not get along with my gym teacher…and I was in modified gym class. YEA. He put me in Saturday detention for a seizure. Wait, that was my gym teacher and my dean. I hated my dean too…)

            The feels for Kyle.

          • Steven K.

            At least, at that time, it was non “co-ed” physical education. The boys and girls had totally separate P.E. classes, so at least there wasn’t that added embarrassment. But the girls got to wear bathing suits in their swim class (swimming was once a week). The admins gave a reason having something to do with support for the developing bosoms, etc. I still thought it was sexist and discriminatory to make the boys swim nude while the girls had suits. Didn’t the young men have certain things that could use a little support and protection as well. I never knew if the girls had to at least shower nude before and after swimming, and after every other gym class session. For the boys, they wouldn’t let you leave the locker room without a towel to throw in the big laundry tub – and the only way you got a towel was to take a shower – and they always had some dude standing there at the shower-room entrance/exit watching every boy get out of the shower room to throw them a towel as they came out. Luckily, the year after they went to co-ed P.E. with boys and girls mixed – and then on swim day both the boys and girls had suits. It felt soooooo much better. The P.E. instructors were no longer as strict and nasty either. That was one instance in my life where I was so grateful for the presence of young women.

          • Kate G

            Behold the blessing for young women! No more nude swimming!

  • Choreocrat

    It occurs to me that Paul’s awkward expression might be because he talked to Kyle already, but hasn’t told Spooky and Flyboy the details. He’s still a little uncomfortable, but the others don’t know what to expect yet. That would also explain Spooky’s less explicable chilledness.

  • Oh Alex, the three of you have done it again. This is a spendid page and every panel is packed with emotion.

    OMG, dear friends, I’m so sorry I couldn’t camp with you tonight. I wanted to sooooo badly. I’ve had my third day/eve of various small gatherings around this holiday and I haven’t been able to get to my computer much until now. So if anyone thinks they are alone in being entirely addicted to YP. THINK AGAIN. If one more friend asked me tonight, “Where are you? Are you okay?” As my mind was busily wandering off and tying itself in knots about what was happening to our boys and knowing it was probably on my computer already and i couldn’t get to it. If I had gone and peeked I would have been completely lost. I tried so hard not to rush people out the door. My man said, “Don’t you dare get on your computer! (LOL) He knows me to well. ARG. It was pure torture.

    So you’ve all probably said all this below, but I need to write it so it okay to blip over this if you need to. 🙂

    So, most sincere compliments to you, Adam and Veronica for another emotion packed page. The facial expressions are stunning and the simplicity of Kyle in profile while we get to concentrate on his comrades coming to the rescue and what they’re thinking is brilliant. Thank you all for what has got to be a huge, thoughtful and very talented mountain of work.

    Maybe I just want to believe my own earlier thoughts about Kyle feeling overwhelmed and lost, but that first panel is so wonderful in it’s simplicity. The beginning of that single tear in that simple clean profile is the damn breaking as Kyle forces out the first hard truth that can never be taken back and begins to let out the horror of the last few hours. It actually gives me hope. He takes the first step, so hard for any of us and asks for help.

    Then Paul’s expression in Panel#2, OMG that is so perfect. He knows nothing specific yet, but he can tell everything from Kyle’s voice. THIS IS BAD. Again keeping Kyle shadowed really allows us to deeply see and feel Paul’s fear and confusion. If a reader ever had a doubt about Paul being there 100% for his friend Kyle, that expression should end it. Paul is genuinely scared and confused. A remarkably hard combination to pull of artistically in a single still. Compliments to you all on that.

    And then that third panel. I read it as Kyle giving in. It just BAD. ALL BAD. Just do it. ASK FOR CLOTHES. It’s all going to come out. Even in silhouette you can see him letting go and just saying it. The shame and the pain are bad, but not worse than just getting through this. Again, that you guys get such feeling out of a shadowed facial silhouette is stunning.

    Then in panel#4, Paul’s shock says it all. DUDE!!!

    As bad as you imagine this is or was? WTF? It’s really really bad. Your friend is in serious shit.

    I love that you do all of that without words. Visuals can be so much harder to do that dialog sometimes but when you nail it like this, you get so much more. Paul’s look says everything and perfectly explains why the other two are along in the final image. Paul can tell Kyle is beyond the end of his rope here. Fluke is smart. He’s realizes this is not the moment to trust in Kyle’s judgement, but to help him. This is NOT an ordinary situation. His buddy is in dire dire need. Again I love all that in a look.

    Finally, (I know I’m monologuing, sorry, but it’s the price of hours of camping denial. LOL.) the brilliance of the composition of the first four enclosed panels opening up to that lovely wide open flying moment in the car. The enclosure to the wide open sense of flight. To see Flyboy do something we didn’t know he could. To see Spooky’s confidence. And honestly who do they need more than him just now?

    Aside: I always had a secret wish that Spooky and Kyle would get together. No reason, just wished it. I dig Spooks. It doesn’t feel like we’re going there, but there it is. Chris’ secret lurve wish. HA.

    Listen, we’ve seen too that Paul is thinking. He’s listening. He knows this is BAD. I’d be surprised if the guys don’t wait in the car for a moment, while Paul goes in with clothes and does whatever you do for a friend in desperation… let him cry? Comfort him and remind him he’s not alone. I don’t know. But THEN the others can come in if that’s required or they can just get Kyle the fuck out of that violation hell hole and get him back to base safely. (???) I really don’t know how. It will be fun reading everyone’s thoughts tomorrow.

    Okay, I’ll shut up now, sorry it was like the damn breaking and I’m so tired that I have to shut out the light and collapse, but I’m so looking forward to coming back tomorrow and looking at all your interesting speculation, theories and ponderings.

    Thanks again Super AAV. You not only did it, but you did it over a busy holiday, if that’s not super hero stuff someone tell me what is!

    All my very best,
    Christopher D

    p.s. ALEX! I’m as good as my word and the chains are off and our boy, Kyle, is freed and sitting up — okay sitting a little angsty — but he’s un-paralyzed and unchained, for the moment at least, so Fridge Magnet Deacon is proudly and hopefully at 12 noon and looking all the better for it. Jeff is forever nervous, be we KNOW he gets over it. 😀

    p.p.s. Hey friends I had a wonderful week two pages ago during our transition to the new chapter, so I was really able to support Alex’s wonderful work with a little extra $. Unfortunately, I’m back to normal now as you can see. So I’m praying that everyone who has a spare $2 will help get us our Wednesday page. Hey, I know! Just wishing, you know. These page are the best deals in town… on any continent! 😀

    Take care and best to all.

    p.p.s.s. (I think?) I just want to echo… I’m SURE someone somewhere suggested that that last panel with the car just WANTS to be a special print. So whether its for Alex’s web-store or the next Kickstarter compaign… I so want one! So, I’m ready to pre-order (LOL). It’s a stunning bit of fun in a flying car. What more could anyone want in a framed print. Paul worried as hell, Mitch concentrating like mad determined not to let anyone down and Spooky with that confidence of his (that I find so attractive) that they’ll be able to do what’s right for Kyle. (heh heh heh). Although I suspect this one will be just as much a challenge for Spooks, as for any of them he just doesn’t know it yet.

    Shutting up now. Thank you guys. You made my night morning! 🙂

    • Thank you so much, Chris, for the lovely, thoughtful comment. It’s always a pleasure when y’all pick up on subtleties we work hard on and reading your play-by-play was a real treat.

      (And hmm… maybe there is something I could do with that flying car image… I’m rather fond of it myself.)

      I hope your husband will forgive me for your addiction! Ha! That was a funny story you told! 😀

  • vessto

    I wish Fluke came alone. *sighs* Damnit, all this situation is just not fair!!!!

  • Saccharissa

    I’m not going to dwell on what Kyle’s feeling right now, because it will make me sad. Again. So instead, I’m going to say: Wow, that’s a gorgeous car! Might it possibly be a ’69 Firebird?

    • It would be so AWESOME if they picked Kyle up in a Firebird.

      • Steven K.

        Wow – YES! And if this were a film they could be playing the finale of Stravinsky’s famous ballet as the score as we see them racing to the rescue.in the car.

    • SofiaT
    • Oh the irony.

    • Kalic0

      Darn! Forgot about the Firebird! It was kind of overshadowed a bit later by the Transam. I was thinking Ford Mustange or Buick GS. But, I stll think the artist went for a hybrid of the late 60’s early 70’s muscle car, because though the 1967 Firbird seems to come closest, there seem to be deliberately changed features that match the Transam and the GS as well.

    • Samurai Jack

      GTO? Cutless? Hadn’t considered the Firebird. Sweet cars, all of ’em.

  • Alex Albright

    I just wonder;

    With Spooky ready for the big leagues, What does he know about Kyle, and how might it affect the team?

    • Choreocrat

      Him staying back to look out for Kyle would be sweet (or something like that).

      Or he’s been directed to keep an eye on him.

  • fujoshifanatic

    Oh, poor Kyle; he’s trying hard to keep it together, but he looks like he’s just about at his breaking point. I think Paul probably has an idea about what happened to Kyle (at least to him now needing some clothes), which is why he solicited the help of the two guys who would likely be most sympathetic to the circumstances of his plight, so I’m not too worried about that. I’m more worried about how Kyle will recover from all of this, and will he recover in time to do something about it.

    Feel better Kyle! And take good care of him, Kyle’s cavalry! Oh, and that’s a sweet ride; looks like a less pimped-out version of the classic Batmobile from the 60s. 🙂

  • Klaus

    It is interesting how different the expressions are on those three faces in the last panel. Worried sick, so very determined, and not a care in the world.

  • Eight_Rule_Pig

    Kyle did screw up but hey, he did so by acting on his best impulses; I don’t mean naivete, I mean wanting human connection and believing that someone might be different than others had led him to believe (sorry, clunky phrasing but I can’t think of better right now). It’s really hard to do that; we’re raised believing in a lot of Manichean bullshit with heroes and villains and anyone who is willing to look past that is pretty impressive already. Most people, Americans especially, never get to that point.

    • Steven K.

      YES!!! THANK YOU!!!

  • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

    Fluke is going to see the burned-out building, Kyle’s missing clothes, and–putting two and two together–conclude that Kyle has been masturbating again.
    So, is Flyboy levitating the car, or hanging on to a Nick Fury-style flying car?

    • Kore88

      It does look very like Lola

      • Kalic0

        I guess it depends on what version you are talking about I guess. In the comic books, Nick had at least two cars, a Porsche and a Ferrari. I have not had a chance to watch the TV version yet so I don’t know what they are using. The car pictured above much more closely resembles the early seventies Ford Mustang or any of the many Buick muscle cars of the early seventies.

    • Steven K.

      Wow – what a simple and logical thought (IF Fluke knows about that detail of Kyle’s past)! After 6 years, Kyle just couldn’t “hold out” any longer, but wanted to be as far away from other people or vegetation/animal life as possible. Could have been a theoretical viable excuse.

  • TwilightDreamer

    Aaah! Read a couple of lines, and I’m in tears again! XD
    I’m certain his friends will be forgiving, no matter what…I mean, I get the feeling Tsunami and their boss will be harder to confess to…but I can’t see Fluke, Spooks or Flyboy being mad with him…
    …though something tells me Fluke might turn a little hell bent against Anni ;P lol.
    Love it, can’t wait for more 😀

  • Randy Patton

    Very sad. This page is very poignant emotionally, and not overdone at all. Sad that others were involved in Kyle’s humiliation…but probably unavoidable as Dokidokibaka mentioned earlier. It is always good to have a little backup in a situation like this, when you don’t know what could happen next. Paul was thinking on his feet and using good judgement, though his friend might not see it that way at first.

    • Kalic0

      Does Dokidokibaka refer to the Annilator?

      • Kalic0

        Boy do I feel stuuupid! That is a poster’s handle isn’t it! Gahhhh, so sorry!

    • Denise Cruz

      I think he couldn’t even imagine in what kind of problem Kyle is involved right there… He wouldn’t have thought about it, not even if he was as drunk as a possum… (sighs).
      Who would?!

    • Good post. And if Sircea were to suddenly show up. I think we might be quiet happy that Paul brought spooky. Since we don’t know what else Kyle has shared with Paul.

  • Zaneta McDonald

    Did the man tell Fluke NOT to tell ANYONE??!! He totally didn’t listen to him…poor Kyle will be soooo embarrassed. :/

  • Amy

    Wait, Kyle told him to go get him and to not warn the team. Sigh. Really Paul? Kyle trusted your word.
    That must be why Paul looks sad in the car.

    • Denise Cruz

      He didn’t have other choice… How would he get where Kyle is, without any help?! Probably there isn’t any road, to that place.

      The Annihilator knows how to screwed up someone or something pretty badly… >~<

      • Amy

        He could have told that to Kyle, who now is going to get a surprise. xD

        • SofiaT

          Chances are they saw him sneak out or search for clothes for Kyle and they forced him to taken them with him… which in the end is probably for the better me thinks.

          But if the communication device only works one-way, Kyle most likely doesn’t know they’re coming and I don’t know how he’ll take it, seeing them all descend upon him, in the fragile state he’s in.

          I have a hunch they might act as a comic relief with their boy antics, not just for the readers but Kyle too.

          • May it be as you say. I think we need some “good buddy” spirit!!!

        • How do we know he didn’t?

          • Amy

            Something that important would be in one of the panels before they made their way to help Kyle.

        • Denise Cruz

          Well.. Yeah! But… maybe Kyle would freak out badly if he had told him then… Sometimes is better to keep some secrets. Although, I think in this case, there isn’t any good choice to be done.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      Maybe the car belongs to Spooky …being of course the “adult member” of the team …so that makes sense….as for the other guy possibly bored….needs to be there in case something goes wrong.

      • Amy

        Nevertheless, Kyle did tell him to not tell the others. The least Paul could do was warn him that he had to bring the others. I wonder how Kyle will react.

  • Sapfo

    I don´t really know what kind of car this is. But it has two wheels in the front and two in back, and it seems to fit 3 people or 20 clowns.

    • Kalic0

      Car is an early 70’s model. It was popular for “cruisen'”. This car was probably made to hold four adults, but was made with all bench seating for maximum occupancy and seatbelts were probably an “option”.

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        To me it looks like a ’70’s model Dodge Satellite….but I’ve never seen the convertible version of that car but they made a 4 door and a station wagon I know for sure.

    • Samurai Jack

      The most similar cars I can think of are a 70’s era Pontiac GTO or an Oldsmobile Cutless. An image search should be able to do the rest.

    • HA

  • This page makes me cry lol.

    • Thanks. It’s nice not to be alone with my crying for the kid. Alex is an emo-wizard making me cry all the time. Gosh darn it! 😀

      • Steven K.

        Well, you’re not alone in those sentiments – same here.

      • i was moved by the last panel in particular…mostly because i just got the sense of, “Hey, Kyle’s had a bad evening, let’s go be there for him.”

        It would be nice to see the team surmount the potential for in-fighting…

      • i like to think the team is there for him 🙂

  • damn.. this is so shitty.

  • Monica

    This… the feels!! The shame…. the drama to come!!! *eats more popcorn and waits*

  • Cydney Sabin

    You know, I can see why he brought more of them. For all he knew, it might be a trap with Kyle as the bait. Plus, he can’t fly. And from what I figure, the Canadian Rockies are pretty far from where their base is located. But he’d better go in there alone! Poor Kyle…

    • Ryn

      yup, but at least it wasn’t the whole team. Tsunami seems rather,hmm…volatile.

      • Cydney Sabin

        He seems to me a bit insecure about his own…. masculinity? Sexuality? I’m still not quite sure there. But insecure all the same.

        • SofiaT

          To be fair, I’d probably freak out too if I found drawings of myself engaging in sexual acts with my friends on the internet, without that meaning that I’m a homophobe or a closeted homosexual. Probably just a bit of a prude.

          That said, I do find his reaction suspiciously quick and over the top. 😛

          • Steven K.

            Just curious – would you feel differently if it showed you doing those things with your male friends/colleagues vs. doing them with your female friends/colleagues? Which would make you feel more uncomfortable and why? (Just something in case you might have any thoughts/feelings one way or the other and if you have the time or inclination to respond at some point – don’t feel obligated – just thought it was an interesting question to ponder).

          • SofiaT

            Whether I like or dislike those pictured with me in that hypothetical scenario would matter more than whether they were male or female I think.

            I might laugh if I saw myself drawn with a female colleague that’s a friend and go “ewww” if it was a guy I can’t stand for example.

          • Steven K.

            Right! That would be logical. Thanks.

        • Steven K.

          He looks masculine enough 😉

    • SofiaT

      So, have we decided that those are the Canadian Rockies?

      I heard both Caifornia and British Columbia mentioned in the comments of the previous page.

      • It seems that AA&V have done a good job at bringing them to a mountain near YOU! LOL.

        • SofiaT

          Um, that doesn’t look like the Blue Mountains to me, and those are the only mountains close to where I am 😛

      • Cydney Sabin

        If you look closely at the third panel on the previous page, it shows a square over the westernmost part of Canada, Washington, and possibly a bit of California and Oregon, in the bottom left of the computer screen. In the second zoom level, it shows that it’s centered on British Colombia, which is the southwesternmost province of Canada. The third zoom level shows that it’s mountainous, which says to me Canadian Rockies. So I think that whoever said British Colombia was right on the money. (Whose money, I still have yet to figure out.)

        • SofiaT

          I’ll take your word for it, the geography of the American continents is not my strong suit 🙂

        • I’m in agreement, that it’s most likely BC. The borders seem to match it better than for California.

        • Steven K.

          Yeah – I said I thought it was B.C. as well – even though that doesn’t make the most sense to me story-wise, unless Duncan is a native Canadian. But I’d still go with that for now.

  • anonywolf

    To be fair to Paul- he only called two people to help him fetch Kyle, not the entire team. Likely Kyle won’t mind that much. He also didn’t call the commander of the team – which is good because right now Kyle very much does not need to be given a lecture which she likely would do.

    • Steven K.

      Totally yes. Thank you.

  • Denise Cruz

    Ooohh, sweetheart… don’t cry! Please don’t cry! You’re really screwing my heart, now!.. :'(
    I don’t know what to expect from his reactions when his three friends show up there, even he having asked for just one to…
    At least, at my POV, they are the three more indicated to handle that awkward situation.
    Poor baby!! :'(

  • HermeticallySealed

    Spooky may be chillaxed now, but I imagine when they get closer he’s going to be able to feel what happened. Opening a portal like that is no small magical feat, and is bound to have left a strong magical signature.

    • Steven K.

      OK – that’s an interesting idea/possibility! So yeah – it will be something to look out for – to see if he’s able to sense anything of what happened.

    • Jamie Dutton

      I wondered about that myself on the page when they first opened the portal. I figured that kind of thing would reverberate and alert ppl, right? Unless Sircea had some SERIOUS mojo going to hide it as much as possible.

  • Shella_Bluey

    Yesterday I went to a Christmas fair and there was this stall where a man sold beautiful things he made out of wood, like small figures, pendants, key chains, earrings, and many more things. I liked one of the pencil holders a lot and bought it as a Christmas present. When I did that, the man smiled – and it was the most beautiful smile, like he was so happy and grateful someone liked his wooden creations, and he looked proud too. At that moment I thought this must exactly be what Alex looks like when he sees that people love his comic so much. Seems my thoughts always retrun to this comic, wherever I am.

    This is such a beautiful comic, I love it so much, Alex. Thanks for making it. And thank to Adam and Veronica for the masterful artwork. 🙂

    • You’re very welcome, Shella_Bluey!

      (And yes, you’re probably right about what I look like reading all of your wonderful comments. 🙂 )

    • Steven K.

      Awww – that’s a rather sweet sentiment. Got me a little teary-eyed. I buy a lot of art objects from people at various art fairs, etc. – and it is nice to see the look of appreciation in the artist’s faces when they see or hear how much their art is appreciated when people like it well enough to buy it, etc. So it doesn’t surprise me at all that Alex or any other type of artist / creator would feel that way as well.

  • I know some worry and/or don’t like that Paul broght Spooky and Mitch, but given the circumstances it’s very likely the best and fastest solution. Since he couldn’t alert the whole team, he had no fast way to get there. He just knows it’s urgent and he doesn’t seem to have told the others any details.
    Flyboy can take a direct route where driving in the mountains would take many hours, so he’s logical to go to. Spooky might be for a little magical help, he’s also Kyle’s good frind and it could be his car – him being on the front seat suggest so. Also Paul ruined his own car about a week before, remember? About that, Paul might need Spooky’s help, because what if he was struck by bad luck on the way and got ‘stuck’ himself somewhere? Not sure how Fluke’s powers work. Maybe having a friend in dire need is enough ‘bad luck’ to prevent that.
    On top of that, Paul only knows that Kyle is somewhere naked and crying. Back-up might be really good not knowing more. He picked well from who was needed, but I doubt he told them about Kyle crying on the phone. Spooky looks way to comfy for that. He could just think that they have to pick up Kyle after a wild night out for his birthday. Spooky just don’t have any idea HOW wild.

    • anonywolf

      These are good points. Here was me thinking that Paul had asked Flyboy for help and Spooky just came along for the ride because he was bored and that he has no idea what’s actually going on.

      • It could be that too 🙂
        Could be it IS Paul’s car, maybe fixed with a little magical help from Spooky, and Paul just couldn’t get around not telling Spooky why two minors are on the way for a midnight drive. Still, even if Spooky is on the front seat of Paul’s car, he could be needed to tag along.

        • anonywolf

          If Paul and Flyboy are both minors then there is a possibility they’d need Spooky there as their “adult” so they didn’t get picked up by the police. I mean – some states have that whole “no driving at night” thing on minor’s licences and we don’t know that they didn’t start out driving and as soon as they came to the end of convenient roads THEN had Flyboy get out and carry them. After all, that would be easier on Flyboy whose the youngest and may not be able to carry the car all the way from the base to the mountains.

          • Paul and Mitch are the two youngest on the team, and with Kyle just turning 18 they’re the only minors now – Paul being (almost?) 17 and Mitch just turning 15. That’s why I thought they needed Spooky as well, even not being familiar with US driving rules, but now that part could also makes more sense 🙂

          • anonywolf

            You know what’s really sad about me knowing US driving rules? I’m English and I’ve never left the UK. *sigh* Too much TV and too many american friends and relations.

          • Kalic0

            Well, it is true that most states in the US have laws probiting minors from driving alone at night, I have a feeling that would not weight heavily in these circumstances.
            My guess was that they had to borrow Spooky’s car and he insisted on coming.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            *squints* Although that car looks like a convertible, which means it might not even be able to seat all four of them. While it certainly wouldn’t fit with the seriousness of the situation, I kind of liked the idea that the only reason they brought the car was because Spooky thought it looked awesome to travel that way.

            More realistically, though, it would probably be easier to fit Kyle in between Paul and Spooky (since they wouldn’t need to actually drive the car) than it would be for Flyboy to try to carry three people at once.

          • Steven K.

            That’s a good point as well.

        • Well, technically they’re not driving the car… :p

          • Yeah… try telling that to the cops who pull them over for driving on the wrong side of the cloud. 😉

          • Sapfo

            I would like to see a spead chase 😉

          • That would make a good scene!

          • Sapfo

            This might not be the only scene with a flying car in it ^_^
            Alex we need more flying cars…. and I for one want George back. I miss the subplot with George and Clave.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Hmm, maybe one of the Interludes could be about George and Clave?

        • Wayne

          Man, when did all this BS ‘no kids driving at night’ start? When I was 15, you got your license and that was the end of it – drive whenever/wherever you wanted to.

    • Ryan How

      My guess is that Paul didn’t intend to tell Spooky and Mitch; the look on his face could mean he’s slightly guilty that he didn’t manage to keep it secret. I’m kinda glad that Tsunami isn’t going though, maybe Kyle will come out to this group since only Tsunami was the one who reacted so negatively at the slash fanfic drawings.

    • Steven K.

      All very good points! Thanks for those thoughts.

  • b3nc0

    WOOOOOT‼ That’s some A-rocking rescue mission b^^

    But, Paul, what didn’t you understand with Kyle’s «Don’t call |ANYBODY|!»? That’s some mighty screwing-up…

  • Denise Cruz

    Is there any chance of Spooky already knowing what was going on with Kyle?!

    I don’t know.. maybe because of his powers or the powers PP had used on our redheaded?

    It’s just… he looks SOOO at easy on that car…
    I know I would never be capable of it, if something unexpected and unexplained was happening with my best friend!..
    It seems… weird!
    I know! I do! It’s Spooky! The guy uses to be kind of weird, afterall. But, still… too weird!!

    • thebitterfig

      Well, Spooky had been invited to join both regional adult teams as a regular member, which is probably a pretty decent promotion from his current gig on the Young Protectors. But he stayed with YP. Why?

      • Wayne

        They are his buddies

        • thebitterfig

          Well, yes, that’s the most likely reason. Probably right. But a bit boring, don’t you think.

          Now, the drama involved with Spooks potentially knowing something about Kyle’s origins, and sticking around to keep tabs on him, make sure this whole “child of Laampros” thing didn’t come back to bite them.

          • Steven K.

            That’s an interesting thought.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            If something like that were the case I would blame Spooky and every other adult superhero who knew and didn’t tell Kyle about it for the demon invasion.
            Depending on how long they knew they could have taken Kyle in, giving him a family to be as normal as he could while working with him on copeing and accepting that Laampros is his father and teaching him how not to become a pawn in a world dominating sceme(PP can’t be the only one who figured out a way to get to Laamros), idealy while keeping his personality unchanged.

      • Denise Cruz

        Perhaps to help adult teams keeping an eye on the training and work of the YP, making sure they’re still safe?!

  • So.. I keep having this ‘Next’-scene in my head, so I thought I’d share it:
    -Guys arrive and Spooky jumps out and walks into the building fast..
    Spooky: Dude! Ending in the mountains and needing clothes. Someone had a wild birthd- WHAT HAPPENED? *Kyle cringing*
    Paul: Damnit, I told you to wait in the car.
    Spooky: Forget about that, we need to kno- *Kyle close to tears*
    Paul: GO wait outside for a while! Please. *Spooky walking towards the door*
    *Mitch standing in the door*: o_o *Whispers* Do you think he toasted them?
    Spooky: Shhhh! *looks back at sad Kyle* Let’s go wait.

    Kyle: Paul, I messed up. I really messed up.
    Paul: What happened? *gives clothes*
    Kyle: I had a date, a date I kept hidden from you all.
    Paul: I kinda figured that… *hesitant*
    Kyle: It was a trap though. To catch me. He just wanted to use me *looks down to avoid gaze*
    Paul: Uhm.. okay. *deep breath* He. Who is he? Wait how coould he trap you?
    Kyle: *looks at Paul* Duncan Wells. he trapped me with a spell.
    Paul: Who? o_O
    Kyle: The Annihalator *wibbles*
    Paul: Wait.. WHAT? Why would you eve-
    Kyle: *low* It gets worse. *deep breath* He-trapped-me-and-used-me-to-make-a-deal-with-a-demon-to-take-over-most-of-earth /fast ramble *turns away not meeting gaze*
    Paul: O_O ….. I.. what? I think I better go get Spooky now. We’re going to need him here.
    Kyle: *cringes* I wish I could just go home *teary eyed*
    Paul: *Hugs* Let me go get the others. *walks towards door*
    There you have it. I wonder if it will anything like this or I’m completely off and Alx makes another twisty move.

    • Ellen Harman

      Going by their faces, it’s possible. Spooky looks like he is planning to tease/rag on Kyle, Flyboy looks teally worried and Paul just looks a little pissed that they just had to tag along.

    • Gaz Hawkins

      I like this…. but just wonder if a touch of humour would work. all this happens but in the end Spooky and/or Mitch come in and say “er…. did you want these?” and hold out the clothes, only then do Paul & Kyle realise Kyle is still naked. Paul look a little embarrassed to have been hugging his naked buddy.
      OR Spooky & Mitch come in and also HUG Kyle and then, as they go to leave either Kyle says “guys, did you bring the clothes?” or one of them says “you want to put these on now?… or in the car?”

    • Steven K.

      The “Do you think he toasted them?” is a very clever and cleverly serious+funny-all-in-one question/remark from the lad to have thought of including.

  • Klaus

    We will soon have the whole team gathered, save only the leaders. Is keeping the leaders in the dark standard procedure for this team?

    • Wayne

      The Commander is the only leader.

      • Klaus

        Tsunami is the deputy leader. I don’t remember exactly where I have it from, but it was written by Alex.

    • A lot of people seem quite concerned about the communication that is happening. However if I’m correct, in the last few pages all “we” saw Kyle say to Paul was to practically beg him not to launch the entire team on a rescue mission. We didn’t see the “rest” of their conversation, but Paul could have said, “I’ll need Spooky and Mitch…” or almost anything.

      Kyle may just need help in telling Commander and Tsunami… especially after Tsunami’s pretty phobic behavior during the porn interlude. Kyle is pretty fragile right now. I’m not really disagreeing with you. I just think he’s taking small steps toward getting it together.

      Also re “policy.” (?) They’re not military, they’re super-powered kids. So I don’t know about policy and rules. Kyle’s literally just been through a hell of a lot, either way.

      Oh… I blather… I just have my fingers crossed for the poor kid.

  • Steel_Man

    So, I’m not religious…but was there a reason for “G-D clothes”? It seems like forced dialogue, that sort of false bravado that people affect when they’re feeling vulnerable. Tears or not, false bravado or not, I’m not generating a lot of sympathy for the kid. You made a mistake now deal with the consequences. But, o’ course his being naked in front of his pals won’t lead to embarrassment cuz they’re all used to young nakedness.

    I’m really hoping for some deep character work. The art continues to be AH-mazin’!

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      To me, it just seems that what Kyle has been through….all of it …getting screwed over….meeting “Daddy” ….he’s probably very upset with himself…and when that happens the anger overflows sometimes. I have been there.

      • Steven K.

        Exactly. We all have.

      • Steel_Man

        I’d be calling Daddy and saying “HEY! Hook me up! I already have the powers! Let’s be pals!”

    • Michelle Grifka

      I assume that the reason for him swearing was less bravado and more an outpouring of emotion, something closer to desperation. After a traumatic event it is necessary to release emotions, and strong language is a way to do that. He really really want clothes because he really really wants to be out of this situation right now.

      • I’ve done that… got mad when I was frustrated, overwhelmed and didn’t want to cry.

        • Steven K.

          Same here.

      • SofiaT

        Sometimes I swear when I’m tired. Kyle looks emotionally exhausted. Going to hell and back -literally- will do that to you.

        I would be surprised if he didn’t use a curse word in there somewhere.

      • Steven K.

        YESSS!!! Thank you.

      • Steel_Man

        The trend is usually, when someone is angry, they curse. When they’re upset, it’s rare to see someone toss in a good old GD. How many funerals have you been to when someone turned to someone and said “I’m just so GD distraught!” I guess it just felt strange for him to toss that out. Oh well! 😉

    • actually, now that he has reason to suspect he’s a half demon, damned cloths could offer additional protection, whereas blessed clothes could be a problem – just kidding!

      • You know I think a large portion of my wardrobe is God Damned… well… or maybe just ugly. Either way, “damn it!”

        • SofiaT

          That’s the entirety of a woman’s wardrobe (regardless the size).

          “Damn it, I got nothing to wear!”

          • Sapfo

            I do not consider my clothes ugly, I consider them comfortable, unwearable or painfull to wear. 😉

          • HA. Exactly!

        • Steven K.

          I have a rather nice and extensive wardrobe with lots of beautiful ties should you ever need to borrow something in order to feel less damned or ugly 😉

      • Steven K.

        HA! I like that.

    • Steven K.

      I think he cussed because he’s very worn and frustrated and to be chained and naked and vulnerable in some harrowing situations over the last few hours – and from the scene where he first undresses and hops so quickly in bed and under the covers, one gets the impression that he was quite shy, and that must have made all this even more traumatic – I think he’d really just like some GOD DAMN FUCKING CLOTHES! I didn’t see that as forced dialogue at all. If it were me, I’d probably be feeling just as vulnerable, but also just as frustrated, and maybe have a moment of angry frustration as well, and I probably would have said something similar – being in a state where I’ve simply just “HAD IT” with being in that state, and pissed at Duncan for not even having the human decency to leave some for me, after what he put me through, etc.

      • Steel_Man

        Maybe I’m thinking too highbrow on this. He’s a kid. It just reads strangely to have sudden GODDAMN words thrown in the middle of a statement.

    • dereule101

      A lot of people swear more when they are exasperated.

      • Steel_Man

        I’m sure it was an attempt to “humanize” him, make him hip or clip or hop or pop or something. It’s just like nails on a chalkboard to see dialogue hacked by unnecessary profanity. Damn it… (see?)

        • dereule101

          *shrug* We’re three chapter’s in and Kyle’s long-since been humanized— at least from my perspective. Profanity is not usually necessary, but people swear anyway. I suppose it hits everyone’s ears differently.

  • Niggle

    My feels. ;_; Yet again I can’t linger to read comments.

  • Theo

    is there any way to donate other than PayPal

    • Sapfo

      Check under the Paypal banar. I think you could use them also.

      • Theo

        I don’t see a way to donate other than PayPal which is really a shame because I like this comic and would like to donate.

    • When you click on the picture of the PayPal box it opens a PayPal window true, BUT, in the lower left corner of the window is a list of all the other credit cards. Visa, MC, Discover, Amex and a little message say if you want to use any of them click continue.

      That will open up a normal credit card window and you can use instead to go directly to your card.

      Good luck. 🙂

      Best,
      ChrisD

      • Klaus

        I did that last Saturday. The donation bar went from $184 to $194 as expected. Great was my surprise when I was not mentioned as a donor on Wednesday’s page. Checking my bank account, no money had been withdrawn. I don’t know what happened. This was the third time I did this, and the first time it didn’t work.

        • Wow, I’ve never had a problem. I will say, Alex pays close attention to all the tech. So, if you continue to have problems, I’d email him and let him know. I’ll bet he can tell what happened.

        • Hmm. That is strange. The first folks to reach out to would be PayPal if it happens again, but hopefully it’s just some weird glitch…

          Thanks for wanting to donate, though! 🙂

    • SofiaT

      What Chris said 🙂

      I would highly advise you open a PayPal account thought because it’s the safest way to make online transactions. And if you connect it to your bank account or credit card you essentially use those to pay, with no extra fees (sometimes there is an fee of a few cents if you use the credit card and it’s an international transaction, but not always), you just add a security buffer between your payment details and the online merchant.

      Plus, if you have paypal all you have to do is log in and press “pay”, you don’t have to spend time entering credit card numbers and expiry dates every time 🙂

      It’s awesome that you want to donate btw! Thanks for bringing everyone closer to an extra page on Wed/day!!! 😀

      • Wednesday Page! Thanks to all!

        I opened PayPal because of YP and now I love it. It’s very easy to use and safe. I have it set so that it can’t be used without a code going to my cell phone, so it’s more safe than putting my credit card numbers out into the world. I also agree that I don’t love using c-cards in general. So, I like having it be a debit. I’m much more generous because I like to (safely) support artists.

        Recently I found an artist who had done a piece about learning to surmount childhood abuse and breaking the cycle… it was very touching. I could have it for free or support him for 99 cents. It was such a small amount and such a worthy piece of art… PayPal made it very easy to support.

        Thanks again for asking. Sofia is exactly right. Safer and easier.

        Best,
        ChrisD

        • SofiaT

          I opened it 5 years ago when I was in London and didn’t have a credit card, so I could buy Skype minutes to talk with the family back home. Now I have it connected to both my bank account and my card.

          I hate it when I want to buy something and there’s no PayPal option available (look at us, we’re a walking, talking PayPal ad!)

          • HA! So true.

          • Jamie Dutton

            heck, there are stores I can walk into and use paypal at the checkout!

  • Frater Gymnos

    Oh NOOOO! He’s bringing the whole (adult) team! I bet they just couldn’t stand by and not help in some way. What a great bunch of guys Kyle has as friends!

  • Derkins

    I knew Kyle would largely blame himself for this, but… I hate him saying “I really screwed up.” I dunno, this might be a controversial statement, but, setting blame on the victim, even by the victim himself, feels like good old fashion rape culture. I know Kyle maybe has a higher responsibility to society as a hero, but, he’s still an 18 year old kid blaming himself for trusting another person, when the blame should be going onto the other person for violating that trust. And. You know. Trying to destroy the world. When a person puts their heart out there of course they’re hoping for the best. That in itself is a courageous act, and should be commended… even despite he disastrous outcome in this situation…

    • I totally agree with your issue about blaming victims. Don’t like it myself.

      But as a “character” point, I can totally understand why Kyle might blame himself at this point. Duncan did everything possible to make him feel like a dupe, a fool, used and tossed aside.

      Right or wrong — I imagine until my buddies get to me and help me get my head on right, I’d be having a big pity party and feeling like it was all my fault because I was the loser who made the mistakes. So, I’m agreeing, but hoping that his friends help him get a better perspective on the situation.

      It seems clear that Duncan and Sircea have been working this scam for maybe up to six years(?) They are old and crafty and they hit a young man in his most vulnerable places… sex & love. Those of us long past 18 can see that with wonderful hindsight.

      Good post. Thanks.

      • Steven K.

        Agree with all that as well! Also a good post!

      • Derkins

        I agree! It is a character point for sure, and it makes sense that he would feel this way. But you kind of hit the nail on the head for me in that Duncan and Sircea’s deviousness and recognition of the sort of achilles heel of the repressed young man is a big part of my opinion. And not just any repressed young man, Kyle was probably more vulnerable to this plot than really anyone else in the world. They chose the perfect mark for this. And yeah, there are so many things that I did when I was around 18 that just sort of make me shake my head sadly, now. And of course people took advantage of me. I made some bad decisions. That’s what being young is for, and that’s why the adults in your life are supposed to forgive you– you’re going down roads you’ve never seen before. You come out sure-footed because of it. We learn how to be responsible and safe through trial and error, or rather how to be a person at all. We start out this life sort of groping in the dark, and every new experience is a risk and a discovery. And of course Kyle took a *huge* risk jumping into bed with Duncan. And boy did he learn a lesson. When normal people sleep with the wrong person you get a serious emotional hangover, maybe hurt or with a disease or lawsuit, etc. These are normal worse case scenarios that can be dealt with accordingly(ish). But really, even when you *are* a super hero sleeping with the enemy, who expects someone to use your first orgasm to destroy the world and grant them immortality? I guess, my point is that Kyle made a natural blunder, a blunder he really kind of deserves to be able to take, just as a human being. Duncan and Sircea took advantage of that blunder potential. I think we can all agree: that’s rotten. But I also think Kyle deserves to forgive himself. So, thanks for your post, too!

    • Hamilton

      I dunno if this is rape culture-y. While fictional narratives can reinforce negative cultural norms, one cannot write characters without acknowledging that those cultural norms exist. This could also be removed from the sexual context, and still make sense: he trusted someone who used him to enact an evil plan. If the narrative was supporting rape culture, these events would be framed to make us less sympathetic to Kyle.

      • Steven K.

        I don’t think it was meant that the narrative was supporting that, but the view that many have professed that everything is Kyle’s fault, and all of what he’s suffering now he got because he should have known better, etc., etc.

      • Derkins

        Right. I wasn’t saying that this work supports rape culture, I’m saying that it’s an accurate portrayal of characters living and breathing within a world that mirrors our own. That is, a society that is steeped in rape culture. And that means symptoms of that culture poke their faces into people’s lives in all sorts of unexpected ways. And it’s something that people buy into, living with it. In my opinion, especially considering that there was a sex act where one person was taken advantage of — and if the whole thing that happened in the hell place isn’t rape I don’t know what is… and then Kyle coming back saying “I screwed up”– that’s rape culture. The same way that a woman getting raped thinking that it was her fault for leaving the house alone, or getting in the car with the guy, or wearing that dress. Did she make a bad decision? Maybe, maybe not. It depends. But one way or the other, did she rape herself? Heck no. Someone did that to her, against her will. Someone potentially took advantage of her trust, which they had maybe seemed to earn, in order to get her alone. Thinking it is at all her fault is rape culture. I actually think it’s really remarkable, and that it speaks volumes, that these sorts of conversations (that are so relevant to big issues in our actual lives) are coming out of this project. For people to be talking/thinking those kinds of ethical questions is a super good thing. Whether you agree rape culture applies here or not. One of the many reasons I applaud the author.

    • Steven K.

      I sooo totally agree with you on those points! Big THANK YOU and HUGS for your comment!

      • Derkins

        Thanks, Steven. 🙂

    • Jeh Y

      It’s not about rape culture. Kyle’s feeling self-loathing. He thinks it’s his fault. The narrative isn’t framing this as “Agree that it’s his fault,” the narrative’s saying Kyle feels really shitty about himself. And it’s consistent with his character. He blames himself for what happened when he was very young, with the burngasm incident. It haunts him, and he’s restricted himself from certain activities over it. It’s consistent with Kyle’s character to beat himself up and say “I fucked up”.

      For Kyle not to say or feel this a would be inconsistent and out of character. And frankly, I’d rather have consistent characterization than to see the writer skip over it just to avoid stepping on any sensitive toes and make everyone feel nice and warm. And it’s not like his teammates necessarily know what happened yet, so they can’t really step in and say “No, it wasn’t your fault, stop it”.

      (Besides, he did show poor judgement. I’m fine saying this because people need to learn to take responsibility rather than say “Oh, he shouldn’t have to, he FEELS BAD and it was DONE TO HIM.” Rape’s a different thing altogether, anyway, than this kind of… unique situation. Given that summoning a demon through orgasmic release is involved, as is trusting a known villain with something very intimate, I feel Kyle’s partially at fault for not figuring something might be up. He is naive, yes, and young and vulnerable. Doesn’t mean he can’t learn from it to use his brain better next time. And if anyone gets up my ass over saying it, too bad for them.)

      • Derkins

        As I stated below, if what Duncan did to Kyle isn’t rape, I dunno what is. He took advantage of Kyle, he violated his body and his trust. The definition of rape can extend much further than just to intercourse. Otherwise I actually agree with a lot of what you said. It is very consistent with his character, for sure, and I’m glad that this was addressed in the script as well. It makes the story much more engaging and relatable when the characters go through true-to-life trauma and through processes. I also agree that Kyle made a large blunder, but one that is expected of young people. Because blunders are neccessary, like you said, in order to learn from them. Again, as I stated below in response to Hamilton, Duncan and Sircea chose the perfect mark in Kyle, and took advantage of his specific weakness (he might not have had another opportunity like this one for the rest of his life). They used the wisdom of their years to profit from his natural needs and tendencies. Kyle made a mistake in that he was naive and trusting, but my only point is, that is a mistake that young people should be allowed to make, and be forgiven for (by others but more importantly by themselves). I don’t regret the mistakes I made when I was younger, because I have sense now due to them. Kyle has been violated so much more than in what just happened, because his right to that healthy foundation could be severed. This is how people learn to never trust again. That in itself is criminal. Naturally Kyle isn’t going to forgive himself right away, but I do believe that his sort of thinking is linked to rape culture (I expanded on this in my response to Hamilton), and I would hope that Kyle can learn to forgive himself for both his past and present mistakes, and see them for what they are, not taking on the crimes of others on top of his own reasonable faults (which are unfortunately magnified for him due to outcomes), and learn to be intimate again one day.

    • Madock345

      I have to disagree. Kyle *did* screw up. It’s not his fault that this exact thing happened to him, but he hooked up with a known and notorious supervillain. That counts as a screw up in my book, a big one.

      • Derkins

        Feel free to read my other responses to this string, below. It’s too much ranting to repeat, but thank you for your response! ^.^

  • Derkins

    Spooky sure doesn’t seem to be picking up on the grim vibes from Paul.

    • Possibly, but I never feel like we know WHAT Spooky is picking up on in the moment. He could get it entirely and just be waiting for the moment to help… or you might be quite right. I can’t tell yet.

  • b3nc0

    We still need a cast page, somehow…

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Here we go! Look out below….MMMMMMMMMMM looks nice…NOT below his belt line! You perv! Why yes I am thanks>:)

  • Michelle Grifka

    I think my heart broke for Kyle here more than for any other page, strangely enough…It’s so hard to ask for someone to rescue you.

    • I agree and yet I was so proud of Kyle for taking that first step and asking for help. He said, “I screwed up.” and took the step.

      Anyone who’s had to make such a call understands how hard it is to admit the fault and the need. He’s just taken a huge growing up step in my eyes.

      • mogoskier

        What make me really sad is, if the whole world wasn’t in danger then I don’t think Kyle would not have called anyone. I mean if him and Duncan had there night as planed and Duncan left him without a way to get home, I have a feeling that calling his friends would be a last resort. Please tell me i’m wrong.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    NOTE* Flyboy would be a necessary element to use his power of flight to get there quicker….Spook probably owns the car and Paul looks worried because of Kyle’s “situation”

    • Paul lost his car lately…

      still i’m surprised Flyboy can carry the car – he looked so shocked when the man jumped from the burning building in chapter one.

      • True, but I wondered if part of Mitch’s power is to lend his “power” to what he touches? Anyone know more on this?

        • Steven K.

          Right – a number of others were making that speculation as well – I think there’s something to it.

      • SofiaT

        I think that’s because he was already carrying the baby and didn’t realise the man, in his panic, would jump so soon -he had his hands full and no time to put the baby down and catch him instead.

    • Steven K.

      I think you have that sized up correctly.

  • SofiaT

    Waking up to see that the donation bar has been tipped over and we’re getting an extra page on Wed/day is a very good way to start the day 😀

  • True. But I’m not sure a one-night stand counts as “being in love” with Duncan. I think that was one of those possibles that we’ll never know about now.

    How is that for sad? Redilator was a decent ship, until Duncan scuttled her… 🙁

    • It would have been even worse if Kyle had been in love and had his heart broken, on top of all this incredible trauma.

      But on the other hand, given the lack of any real feelings so far, Alex has made it a lot harder for himself to make their reconciliation believable. Even if Kyle forgives Duncan after seeing him do something heroic, I can’t see Kyle actually then agreeing to go on some more dates…

      • Oh I just assumed we couldn’t even see “reconciliation” in the rear-view mirror any more. If Alex is hoping to get us back to a Kyle/Duncan coupling… then he is made of MUCH sterner stuff than the rest of us. If he’s lucky, Duncan get’s torched quickly… as opposed to a slow roast……….

        • I can’t, but I was assuming that this comic had that as an end goal. 🙁

          Why roast when you can impale?

          • Huzzzah!!!!!

          • Hikaru Takemori

            You know that you can have both, right? First impale then roast.

          • SofiaT

            Shhhhh! Don’t give them more ideas!

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Sorry, xD.

        • Sapfo

          I have tried to separate my wishes from what is more likely to happen.
          Do I want Duncan and Kyle gets together again in some way…. No not really.
          Does it seem logical that they are getting back together … No!

          Apparently, it took not particularly large seperation of my wishes and logic, they seem pretty consistent.

          So this is my hope, a patch on Kyle’s mental and emotional wounds. Kyle fight against Laampros invasion and there on the battlefield, he meets Mr. Totally Right that will always protect Kyle’s back. Mr. Totally Right also has a gorgeous ass.
          They win and then they live happily ever after, and are only ever bothered about whose turn it is to do the laundry. This argument always ends in the same way. Kyle burns up all the clothes and they have hot sex instead.
          The End! ^_^

          I dont really know what happened to Duncan….

          • Steven K.

            I like that!

          • Jamie Dutton

            Yes, this should be cannon! Thank you for this, you made me laugh.

        • Steven K.

          Yep!

      • Steven K.

        Right – that is definitely one of the major problems to believably overcome. Seems kinda impossible to me as well.

    • Steven K.

      My feelings exactly.

    • Hikaru Takemori

      But don’t you know that the Redilator is a submarine now? To rise again when the time is right?

      p.s.: I do know that I might live out my life on it never to be seen again (possibly drowned or crushed to death by the oceans pressure maybe both, but I love this ship and won’t abandon it). But Captain Nemo with his Nautilus had a decent life so I figure the Redilator and I can try for the same.

  • Sapfo

    In real life I hate converterbles, allways mess up my hair in a real bad way! But maybe Spooky can do a spell on the hair and then flyboy can take me for a spine 😉

  • LL

    Oh man. Obviously all three of them are there for a reason, since Kyle told Paul to keep his situation private, but it will probably add to his embarrassment and might keep him from telling them the truth…

  • JustStoppingBye

    Dang it, Fluke! What part of “Don’t call anybody” do you not understand? Although, I do have to say I like the look of determination and general bad-assery on Flyboy’s face.

  • Soubi

    Alex, stop hurting me like this 🙁

  • Cat Astrophe

    Oh poor baby poor Kyle my god ow this hurts why

  • Yukiness

    The serious situation was diffused by the awesome of the flying car. It reminds me so much of Ferris Buelers Day Off.

    • SofiaT

      With Spooky being Ferris? I could picture that! 😀

      • Okay now you have me seeing these guys on a parade float singing twist and shout!

        • SofiaT

          😀

          • xLizardx

            I wonder which one would be Cameron, though? 😀

          • SofiaT

            Tsunami. He’s the most buttoned-up of the group and the easiest to freak out 😀

          • xLizardx

            ….Agreed! I’m not sure he’d fit in the middle at the back though. Oh well, they’ll figure something out… maybe Spooky can magic him smaller 😀

        • Yukiness

          You say that like it’s a bad thing

          • Did I? Well, I must make amends, because such a thing would be AWESOME!

    • Steven K.

      Although, from recent events down in hell and stuff, I’d say that it had slightly more of a “Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey” – quality to it (though more dark and serious of course).

      • I cannot find that movie anywhere! I need it to complete my set!

  • Megan Staples

    Paul is evil.

  • Tsk, how dare he be 13 minutes late?

  • LimpBiskit

    I had to. Because Laampy said to. http://imageshack.com/a/img202/4548/51ya.png

    But dat tear tho…

    • SofiaT

      Ha!! We needed that!

      Thanks LimpBiskit 😀

      • LimpBiskit

        You’re completely welcome 🙂 I only hope Mister Bossman approves of my mutilating his work..

        • SofiaT

          From what I’ve come to know about the Bossman, he will love it! 😀

          He made a “Like a Boss” meme for Duncan himself: http://webcomicsyaoi911.yaoi911media.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Yaoi911_TYP_Annihilator_Like_A_Boss.jpg

          Just remember to add the credit to the original when creating fan-art. In this case, since it’s not just Alex’s characters but also the art of Adam and Vero you used, this would be appropriate:

          Original The Young Protectors stories and characters by Alex Woolfson. Original The Young Protectors character art and pencils by Adam DeKraker. Original The Young Protectors colors by Veronica Gandini. © 2013 Alex Woolfson. All Rights Reserved. http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/

          • LimpBiskit

            Oh they never get shown anywhere but in these comments and then I delete them.

          • SofiaT

            Oh no! It’s too cool to delete! 🙁
            Why don’t you send it to Alex and he can add it on the fan-art page 😀

          • I second this!

          • I third!

          • LimpBiskit

            awwwww…. ok >///< how do i…?

          • SofiaT

            Just email Alex with the image. alex@yaoi911.com 🙂

    • Oh that’s just funny 😀

    • Bravo(a?) — That’s great.

  • Holly

    No Paul. Kyle told you NOT to tell the others. Bad Fluke! Bad FLUKE! tsks

    I miss camping…

    • Hey! Weren’t you supposed to bring the marshmallows?

      • Holly

        I promise to bring many marshmallows after Christmas

  • Steven K.

    Right – there was no way he could have predicted that his personal choice could affect the welfare of others – but he was co-opted – NOT by his choice – for evil purposes.

  • xLizardx

    Fluke is concerned and brooding, Flyboy is serious and determined, and Spooky’s just like: “Come fly with me, let’s fly, let’s fly away…” 😀

  • A little break from TYP for a sec for a share. This is the last sunset in November of 2013 as seen from my back porch. They turned out fairly nice so I thought I would share. ^_^

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/118082431292164101352/posts

  • SofiaT

    This is a bit irrelevant to the page (considering she’s not even in it) but it’s something I noticed (and appreciated) a while ago and the discussion about boob-socks and boob-windows yesterday brought it back to the forefront of my mind.

    I want to thank Alex and Adam for not giving Amanda high-heels and a stupid decolletage.

    I’m tired of seeing super-heroines in 5-inch heels. You can’t walk in these things, let alone fight crime. And low necklines? Do you know how easy it is to have a wardrobe mulfunction when you wear something skin-tight that leaves half your boobs hanging out of it -even when you’re not fighting villains? Female superhero costumes serve no logic purpose, other than to make teenage boys happy.

    Finally, in Amanda, girl-geeks find a superheroine who is both badass and sensibly dressed. So thank you Alex for giving her to us. *Ends rant*

    • mogoskier

      Aww come on that not fair we have..ummm…well theres ummm……batgirl? BATWOMAN yea. Damn super-heroines don’t know how to dress.

      • SofiaT

        They’re not 5-inch heels but they’re still heels. http://cdn.comixology.com/2006/OCT06/OCT060304.jpg

        Although the New 52 Batwoman is an improvement. (The uniform is. I can’t commend on the comics because I haven’t read those).

        • mogoskier

          Well the publisher did just cancel her wedding to her girlfriend.

          • SofiaT

            Figures. Only lesbians are allowed to dress sensibly! *throws hands in the air*

            Edit: Or, according to their logic, “if a woman dresses sensibly and not to titillate men, she has to be a lesbian”.

          • mogoskier

            Well to be fair to D.C and most hero comic the guys costumes are just as stupid it just that there not sexual. Anything skin tight can’t be comfortable to fight in.

          • SofiaT

            It makes sense for heroes that fly. They need a skin-tight suit for aerodynamics. I also see those suits a bit like yoga pants, which are skin-tight but very comfortable. I guess male super-heroes’ uniforms must feel like a cross between yoga pants and onesies (in my head at least they do).

            You don’t see men fighting crime in speedos though. >:(

          • mogoskier
          • SofiaT

            He’s actually in the water most of the time so he’s allowed to parade around in a swimming suit.

            Superheroines wear glorified swimming suits for uniforms with no such excuse 😛

          • Well looking at how good he looks in the water there… and that’s just… DAMN! I say it’s the superheroines fault (kidding) for not spending more time in the water. Thus, more swimming, costume problem solved. 😛

          • mogoskier

            True, very true

    • Here here!!

    • Hear, hear! And if their suit doesn’t have huge heels or low neckline, it’s often bare-legged and so highcut/skimpy that it’s amazing they don’t freeze their legs and butt off.

    • I think Amanda is lovely, attractive and well attired and I agree with you 100%. In addition, as much as I support all my LGBTQ brethren in pursuing the super-attire of their choice, for the sake of THIS particular GN however…

      I want to thank Alex and Adam for not giving ANY of our guys high-heels and a stupid décolletage… most particularly Duncan. I think my brain just might explode.

      Finally unless the wardrobe malfunction and the nipple rocket launching in the enemy’s eye IS the point of the female superhero costume, I agree… logic seems to hold no part in it.

      Finally, though, I don’t want to be accused of being a hypocrite. As far as making teenage boys happy. I would have wanted any number of our super-dudes wearing the tightest spandex possible and junk as clearly outlined as possible…

      YES? What of it?

      At the age of 15 I was a pig… ho hum… I admit it. It just wasn’t Amanda’s décolletage that was at issue back then… or now.

      Go Young Protectors!!!

      • A-ha. at the age of 15. And now you’ve stopped being a pig. sure. totally plausible.

        • Ahahahah… no you are correct. You just missed (or misunderstood) the last two words of my post. “… or now” Yep, still pig. Do not deny it. 🙂

          EDIT: But am considering a Kickstrarter campaign to upgrade to being a Flying Ninja Robot Pig…. way better. Right?

          • I just wondered if there’s a way to change that “being a pig”-thing – just to know what to avoid, I wouldn’t want to loose that myself….;-)

          • Gosh… no you’ve given me a new worry. I always thought it was built into the male testicular infrastructure and so not really losable. I’d like to say don’t worry, but for now let’s just keep our eyes open for possible dangers and roveing choirs of boy-eunuchs and avoid them assiduously. 😀

    • Have you seen Jim C. Hines cover poses? Where he poses like women on various books to show how ridiculous they are? He does men to as a counter point.

      http://www.jimchines.com/cover-posing/

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/41225422@N00/sets/72157632676570479/

      It’s quite interesting how they twist and turn women where men get to be manly.

      • SofiaT

        Ah! That’s the “Hawkeye Initiative”, isn’t it?

        Edit: Ha! No, apparently that’s different but still awesome 😀

        • It’s very similar to the “Hawkeye Initiative”. This is a SFF writer who took this on. He’s used some of it to raise money for charity. He’s very big on combating sexism, especially in SFF. I really like his Goblin books. And his Libriomancer books have a kickass Dryad in them.

      • With women in comic covers it’s about showing the boobs and booty in same pose. The horror if one of these two options isn’t *popping out* in your face 😉

        • SofiaT

          “Spine? What do you mean women have spines? I don’t care, find some way to make both their boobs and butts stand out at the same time. I don’t have time to bother with stupid things like spines…”

        • He does a couple of poses from comic books. There are a lot of urban fantasy novels with very similar issues.

      • That is fantastic!

      • Comic Reader

        No but Im going to look now so thank you for sharing!!

      • Comic Reader

        That was fricken awesome!!

        • Glad you liked it. 🙂 He does some really cool things.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        There used to be a tumblr called “your sword is compensating” or something like that. I could not find it again but I did find this which is in a similar “vein”. snrk!

        http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/replace-swords-bananas/

    • Sapfo

      I wish I could like this more then once.

    • One last thought on a really interesting discussion. Amanda IS everything you say she is, when it comes to her attire.

      Sircea, though, is rather the opposite.

      What, if anything, does that tell us? It seems unusual for Alex to make such choices randomly.

      Edit: Oh! And good night all and thanks.

      • SofiaT

        That’s very simple (for me).

        Sircea is a villain. Like Duncan, she does use her sex appeal to get what she wants. I don’t begrudge her her metal bikini.

        Amanda is a hero. These tactics are beneath her.

        • Yes, I can see that clearly. Sex was indeed a weapon for Duncan, in every aspect. “And he’s strong and plans on staying that way.” Thanks.

          • SofiaT

            Remember, if Kyle wasn’t gay, Sircea would have been the one to play the part of the seductress.

          • There was a quote I saved long ago, rather about exactly this subject, but in the opposite sense. It was about a truth a very young couple of oversexed boys had to learn in the healing of their relationship…

            “Sex is not a weapon between people who truly love each other.”

      • Maybe it’s sorta like an ‘old generation’ vs. ‘new generation’ way of dressing… or leading a group of younger boys/men makes her dress different.. or/and she just don’t give a fuck about what she wears except wanting if comfy.

    • but, what if the girl in question wasn’t allowed to wear anything else? Take DS9’s Major Kira Nerys as an example: High heels are part of the Bajoran military uniform, so what chance did she have?

      • SofiaT

        I’m not a Trekkie so I’m not familiar with that.

        But what I have to say is: how convenient that she “has” to wear high heels 😛

        Note: I’m not belittling the heroines in any case. It’s the men that create them that annoy me. It’s no accident or coincidence I think, that we had to wait for a gay man to create a super-heroine the way we (women comic fans) always wanted her to be.

        • I know… the military wouldn’t let the men go “commando” in their tight pants? I spent a number of years rather bitter about THAT!

          See the pig in me is still grumpy about that one!

          • Sapfo

            Considering that my dad and my mom was in the military, I for one am glad about that.
            And to burst one more bubble, all those cute male nurses at my jobb. They have cute underwear 😉

          • Welllllllll… I do have a bit of a cough and I should probably be inspected by your cute male nurses…

            What did you say the address at the hospital was? Oh, and which nurse had the cutest underwear?

            WHAT A MINUTE! How you you know about their cute underwear young lady? I sense a story here. Do tellllllll…..

            😀

          • Sapfo

            Some years ago we did have the same dressing room. For some reason that is no more 🙁

            Nowadays to my delight, I can enjoy a show when the cute male nurses bend forward. Scrubs are not form-fitting, and a low hanging pants with to short tops are a great combo.

            Girls are not pigs, we are observant 😉

            The adress: when you come over the Atlantic, take to the left when You come to Denmark. It is right there.

        • if they kept with Roddenberry’s ideas it would have been a sing of how progressive the Federation was compared to the Bajorans: In the first season of TNG you’ll see several male star fleet crew members in skirts – though most of the time in the same recycled evacuation sequence…

          • Simba Hutchison

            Yay, a DS9 fan!! I think Nerys would have worn heels anyway, she’s really short and wouldn’t want anyone thinking they can push her around. I <3 her…

        • *massive applause*

      • Steven K.

        Well, given what they did with SevenOfNine, they had her sparkly suit/uniform so form-fitting that a “boob-window” wasn’t even necessary.

    • Sapfo

      Okay, this is for the fans that can draw. I would really like an fanart with Duncan in highheels and low (oh so very low) necklines. Fan-girl wants herself some manbooty. XD

      • SofiaT

        >:D Evil, evil Sapfo…

        …Me likes!!

        • Sapfo

          Well we can dream some ^_^

      • Pfff.. I now imagining Duncan in a mankini and highheeled boots >.> It hurts!

        • Sapfo

          And thats a bad thing? o.O

          • No, I’m laughing my ass off.

          • Sapfo

            What can I say, when you mentioned the female heroes boobs/booty pose, I just had a falsh of Duncan in that pose. And for some sick reason I would really want to see it XD

        • Steven K.

          Well, seems like his hairstyle would be wig-friendly if you want to complete his transformation.

    • Fay onyx

      There does seem to be a pattern, though, where masculinity is viewed as going with strength and practical clothing and femininity goes with skimpy clothing that is probably really impractical and uncomfortable. Alex and Adam do seem to have fallen into this pattern to some degree with Amanda and Sircea. Both women are clearly strong people, which is wonderful, but someday I’d really like to see a feminine hero or villain (male or female) who dresses in a feminine and practical way, and who is portrayed as powerful.

      • SofiaT

        I’ll agree with the first point of your comment, but I find that -for the most part- Alex and Adam have managed to avoid that trap. Amanda is dressed in a way that seems both comfortable and feminine -you can still see her curves but without having her half-naked boobs thrown in your face. She’s badass but she never lets you forget she’s a woman either.

        As for Sircea, as I told @chrisdangerfield:disqus below, I don’t think her wearing a metal bikini and being practically naked was an accident; she’s a villain who uses her sexuality as a weapon. I think that her skimpy uniform was a conscious decision of Alex and Adam, but probably not for the same reasons you’d see a female scantily dressed in a DC/Marvel comic.

        Since we only have 2 females in the comic so far and both in opposite camps, it’s hard to identify a pattern but that’s the feeling I get out of it.

        • Steven K.

          OK – I’m 100% gay and not necessarily into watching 2 women get it on (though oddly enough I’d rather watch that than heterosexual sex – no offense meant to anyone – just personal taste) – however, I think it would be rather cool, and quite something, if there were some plot line along the way that got Amanda and Sircea together intimately – then she’d have to deal with many of the same issues as Kyle with Duncan. I know, everyone will say she’s too experienced and savvy and intelligent to let that sort of thing happen, but hey – as they say, “love is blind”, right? And if Amanda or Sircea are Lesbionic – well, there’s only one other major female character for the other to bematched with 😉 – just like only one fireproof main character that we know of for Kyle to be with (though hopefully there might turn out to be some nicer options for Kyle, since Duncan turned out to be such a heartless shit, as much as I had wanted to see them together in the first place). Besides, THAT might bring in more male heterosexual readers – I’ve been told that hot lesbian sex is almost irresistible to the straight male 😉 .

          • Steven K.

            Hmmmm – a downvote? I meant this all very respectfully and analytically, actually. Was there something wrong with the lesbian-themed suggestion? (There might even be some of those amongst the current readership). Also, if straight women like looking at depictions of gay male sex (isn’t that the tradition that yaoi grew out of? – stories of gay male romance and sex written and illustrated by straight women for young straight women?), then it would be a double standard to suggest that there is something wrong with suggesting or depicting lesbian sex to help enhance the viewing/reading pleasure of young straight males. And, like I said, I’d prefer that myself over heterosexual scenes – which is why I’m reading this comic rather than a lot of others. But my personal taste in viewing gay or lesbian sex was not meant as an insult to anyone else – just, as I mention, a personal preference. Nothing wrong with straight sex of course – it’s actually kinda necessary – including necessary to make new gay people.- since I don’t believe gays come from straight kids being “converted” or “corrupted” by gays – and I’m more in the “camp” of “nature” rather than “nurture”.

          • Jamie Dutton

            If I may reply to this, Steven? This is only my personal opinion and I wasn’t the one who downvoted you, by the way.
            The only way that would work at all in a story this amazing is if Alex wrote it that way from the VERY beginning. Something of that nature would need to follow all the rules of Alex’s worlds. It would need to be just as character driven and respectful as the other couples we’ve read previously.
            Otherwise, he would be stepping into a big quagmire. One misstep and he’s just another guy writing some piece of exploitive crap with women getting it on with each other. I’ve seen way too much of that to want it to happen to this fantastic story.

          • Steven K.

            Oh – my musings are still more of a :fan-fictional” departure anyway. On the other hand, the only major indication we have of Sircea’s sexual orientation is the comment made by Duncan that it would have been she who would have “done the job” if Kyle hadn’t been gay, but I guess I should have been thinking about that, in any case, and thus she’d be bisexual (I hate to use either one of the terms “at best” or “at worst – lol) – let’s say, “at most” in terms of homosexual leaning. We don’t know if she’s “purely” heterosexual or not. I don’t have the best “gay-dar”. There have been a lot of women that I’ve met whom I at first thought were lesbian and who tuned out not to be at all, and even a number of guys I thought were probably gay who turned out to not be so in the least. So many stereotypes will get one into trouble if singularly relied on. It wasn’t meant to be a passionate suggestion – or even a passionately longed-for one – just a fanciful one – just a theoretical idea of what could have made an interesting alternative story. I think that sort of thing happens in fan-fic all the time. Look at all the gay-themed stories of Holmes and Watson, Batman and Robin, etc., etc., etc. – when I know that such was NEVER the original intention of the creators. But fans tend to want to be creative with their favorite characters and are wont to imagine them often more to their own persuasion or fictional aesthetics for creative personal fantasizing.

          • Jamie Dutton

            I understood you were only musing over things. I like that you do that a lot, actually. I just think you might have hit a sore spot with some readers.
            As for Sircea, I think that it’d be the same as her choice of clothing or lack there of. She could be one of those people that can become whoever or whatever she needs to be to get what she wants. Although, this is all speculation since Alex hasn’t shown us much about her.

          • Steven K.

            Yes – that’s a good working characterization of her.

          • Steven K.

            Also, many readers/commentators here are proposing various or different potential or theoretical or alternative plot lines or developments ALL the time, on just about every aspect of the storyline. So I don’t think my flight of fancy was not in keeping with that tradition. And it wasn’t meant as a plea or demand to change the story as written – if I was doing that, there are elements much more important to me that I would clamour to change. But we already have the story written in any case, and such would be pointless. Therefore, it was more along the lines of “I think it would be cool if……”

          • Sapfo

            S, sometimes you get a down vote and there is no reasonable explanation for it.

    • I’m glad you’re feeling that way, SofiaT. Having superheroines who are both badass and sensibly dressed is something that’s important for me to depict—and frankly, Commander wouldn’t have it any other way. And your analysis of my choice with The Platinum Priestess is accurate—with the addition of me wanting to subvert the traditional use of such costumes for young women and girls by showing a much older woman using that look for her own ends—and using it successfully. (Whether my subversion was truly successful or not is something I’m haven’t decided yet, but again, The Platinum Priestess wouldn’t have it any other way.)

      If you’re interested in these issues, I’d suggest checking out the excellent Escher Girls blog.

      http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/

      And in another note, I have to say, the thing that most pleases me about this discussion is that it’s happening in a mixed-gender comics forum and that everyone is being so cool and respectful. Sadly, there are still mainstream comics forums out there where women get death threats for bringing up these issues and it makes me happy to see our house is so very much not like that. That’s a pretty low bar, I know, but it still makes me happy to see that. 🙂

      • SofiaT

        Yeah, our fandom is pretty awesome 😀

        Thank you for your comment, Alex!

      • mogoskier

        I really do love this fandom. I follow a lot of fandoms just out of sheer curiosity and most of the time I have to stop reading comments or boards out pure disgust and stupidity. But here I see the true potential for the internet and intelligent discussion.

        • SofiaT

          You know what else I love about this fandom? Women don’t get accused of being “fake” geeks in it.

          We’re all here because we like the story. Everyone is welcome in this forum based solely on that criterion and their will to play well with others. That’s it. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation or whatever other crap people like to judge other people by.

          It’s very refreshing 🙂

          • *oh loud applause for that one*

            (Another day we’ll have to talk about “fake-geeks”. I didn’t even know that was possible. I thought it was like “gay”. You either were or weren’t. Clearly I’ve missed out on some serious squabbling. But anyway…)

            TRUTH… this is just plain good story telling. Story that opens its doors and mind a little wider than the norm, and so I love it. The rest is frosting.

            Although I have had to borrow a crying towel during some rough sections, but the campers usually come prepared! 😀

          • Oh you didn’t know that girls/women can’t be geeks?
            We just pretend to like comics, sci-fi series and games to get attention from actual geeks. Also if if a pretty girl dress up and cosplay a character from a (male oriented) comic/game ‘universe’, it’s probably just to boost the ego when actual (read: male) geeks look at her.
            A woman can’t be a nerdy as a man xD

            This is basicly the whole controversy of being a fake geek which some sadly see many women as >.>
            This song has been made in relation to this controversy 🙂
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Rjy5yW1gQ

            P.S. Guys can also be called fake geeks, but most of it is based on the assumption that girls/women can’t be as inteted in nerdy things as men can.

      • Simba Hutchison

        I love Escher girls!!

      • It may be a low bar, but it’s a really good bar!

      • So after (wink wink nod nod) I went to sleep last night I was up for, oh just an hour or two with my mind spinning.

        EVERYTHING WE WERE DISCUSSING (although yesterday was focused on a specific type of super-heroine image) IS ABOUT AUDIENCE:

        The single biggest real issue that I could perceive after some thought was the singularity of everyone’s visions. and that so little variety is available. Particularly of super-heroines. As Sofia rather smartly pointed out, it took at gay man to give us a really sexy but sensibly dressed super-heroine in Amanda. His audience more than allows it and he hopes there are no 15 year olds on this site.

        (I did stumble on some very ruff butt hyper sexy Angelina Jolie film pix, Mr. Mrs. Smith (end), Wanted, Laura Croft 1&2 … very booby, but fatigues and boots and tougher than any guy on the block)

        Sites about objectifying men are mostly an excuse to show pictures of sexy men. Some sites are female-centric, some gay, but all idealize male beauty to a point where it’s not unlike making men “spineless”. You might have to read yesterday’s posts to get that. The male beauty is impossible.

        I blame you all that I spent 40 minutes I got lost looking at incredibly HOT pictures of Marlon Brando… and HE’S DEAD PEOPLE. No, I don’t blame you, but it was touch and go for a few minutes last night.

        Non-queer women definitely do NOT want their male super heroes displayed in a non-masculine way, which makes the excessive bootification of the great site below not really attractive to many female viewers I know. So who IS the audience for anything less than the hyper-masculine?

        http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/05/what-if-the-male-avengers-posed-like-the-female-one/

        Everything is audience driven.

        We mentioned the largest group being 14-16 year old boys. The ones who cerebrally like those spineless illustrations that show butt and boobs… Now WE know that they don’t want effeminacy in men. Even if you are gay you don’t usually want your men mincing. Not usually.

        Also at 15 you DO NOT have a super computer for a brain, and you are masturbating 5+ times a day (conservatively). So not a lot of higher cognitive functioning going on. So if she is in an impractical costume with heels it’s really okay and all you want is to BE Chris Hemsworth and her to look like that and want YOU.

        Of course if you’re gay you want Chris Hemsworth to want to be with YOU. It’s rather like a gay version of that old Cary Grant line: “Men wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him” (gays weren’t mentioned back then, but you can figure out where they fit).

        But in thinking of this I realized a non-queer 15 year old boy is not going to imagine whatever ‘works’ when he does the deed in private… no matter how “wrong” anyone says it is. And that image wont be the same at 20 or 30 or….

        The same being also true in a different way for women.

        The interesting thing is that world could grumble forever about the evils of objectification of both sexes. Boobage or codpieces (yeah I saw that bad batman with Chris O’Donnell).

        The only things I was really left with for any gender, age, preference after my ponderings last night is that they will always be whatever they’ll be, they will change with age, time and experience.

        And most of all, we can only hope that parents, friends, colleague, etc… will help us all learn over time, what the world of fantasy, erotica and illusion means to each of us and helps us find a way to be open minded to the unique needs of others and also tolerant of our own peculiar and unique needs.

        • Sapfo

          As a woman who is somewhat hetrosexuell I must say that I like it when big strong heroes show their weaknesses. Cry, feel, and dare to be weak. (A real man can cry, as my brother once said)
          I think there should be more male heroes who have weak moments. Otherwise it will be just another hero who is too good, too strong, too masculine.

          I promise you that there’s nothing more manly than a man who takes care of their children. Now maybe I’m very influenced by my own social world in which men take paternity leave to be with their children. I know that in many parts of the world this can be seen as unmanly.

          And I think most of us are very influenced by the upbringing we had. If we have had an upbringing where men are encouraged to not show emotion, then this becomes an ideal.

          But what should I do, I grew up in a family where men cook, clean, bake bread and take time off to be with their children. And I like it, a lot!

          By the way! That is one hot Hulk. Never going to see him without laughing 😉

          Oh and here are the male heros I grow up with

          http://www.google.se/imgres?biw=1366&bih=666&tbm=isch&tbnid=cYZG3WIt3yaLUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.boktipset.se/blogg/serie-bloggen_den_osynliga_konsten/tag/valhall/&docid=frNSzaqumXMeoM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_tsC0o45GjM/Uom1c_OtakI/AAAAAAAAAko/rG6unT3zAMk/s1600/guderne.jpg&w=431&h=400&ei=g0icUuYrqr_KA6GAgeAP&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:26,s:0,i:165&iact=rc&page=2&tbnh=190&tbnw=205&start=20&ndsp=30&tx=114&ty=78

          and a goddess (of love) 😉

          http://www.google.se/imgres?biw=1366&bih=666&tbm=isch&tbnid=Kpj9ZYjhxM2a0M:&imgrefurl=http://tannhauser3.wordpress.com/freja/&docid=6tXBMwzeds9Q9M&imgurl=http://tannhauser3.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/valhalla8-side3.jpg&w=609&h=636&ei=ZUecUqbRA4GTywPz_oHAAg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:5,s:0,i:94&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=174&tbnw=165&start=0&ndsp=24&tx=54&ty=62

          • I want to come live where your are!

          • Sapfo

            It has its good sides and its bad. Like most communities.
            I try to keep the good and to change the bad, in the way I can.

          • I suppose that’s the best way to live in any place. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            When I was a teenager my favourite male hero was very short, had a huge blond mustache and wore feathers on his head 😀

          • Sapfo

            Could it be that he had a large friend with a small dog?

          • SofiaT

            By Toutatis and by Belenos!! How did you guess?! 😀

          • Sapfo

            Asterix and Obelix. Some of my favorits. also known as the reason why I know some Latine 😉
            And don´t forget Tintin

          • SofiaT

            Sorry, I don’t likeTintin. :o/
            But I’ll take Thorgal Aegirsson and Lucky Luke anytime!

          • Sapfo

            There are a lot of heros out there. Luckily we do not need to like them all 😉

          • SofiaT
          • Sapfo

            Bad Majesty! XD

          • Thorgal 😀 One of my favorite comic series. Except for the newest comic-albums, I own almost all of them and the Prince Valiant series too.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            I think the tv show ‘Firefly’ does a great job at having the characters show weakness, though they might not be seen as heros.

          • Sapfo

            Joss Whedon is good at making us (the audience) feel the pain. And yes, in my eyes they are heros, maybe not the heros we are used to, but still heros.

            Must say that Alex is doing a good job at it to.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch3X5WrhwGM

          • Steven K.

            Great points.

        • Steven K.

          I’m a fan of and someone who appreciates a wide range of “types” of men – INCLUDING the beautiful, more “soft” – i.e., non-hypermasculinized type. I also appreciate images of young-ish men who are not all rugged or muscle-bound, etc. – just coming into manhood with the faint stubble and little patches of chest-fur, etc. I’m not talking about PORN – nothing graphic, nothing overtly sexualized – I wouldn’t want to risk having illegal sorts of material, especially if a court could not interpret it as “art” – but I do have some portraits of some very beautiful post-adolescent males that give me much enjoyment to look at – I got one because it reminded me so much of myself when I was in my early teens. I have another that shows a beautiful lad playing with a chemistry set, that I also identified with – he is rosey-cheeked and angelic, staring off into space dreaming – as of thinking up some great invention – I used to be like that at my age experimenting with my chemistry stuff. I think the gruff and scruffy and rugged and ripped are most certainly – but I am a very passionate fan of Bidgood and Von Gloeden as well! if anyone is not familiar with either of those photograpers, I’d suggest doing a “google images” for those, and one can see that the focus is on idealized males, usually on the younger side, but without a lot of beards or body-fur or muscle-bound physiques – rather the opposite of the hypermasculinized type that Chris makes some reference to. Who would be a fan of these non-hypermasculinized males? I would admit to being so. I’m in awe of the artistic beauty and elegance of kouri as well (I’d think most gay men and a whole lot of straight people can’t help but appreciate a work such as the “Kritios Boy”, that has been termed “the first beautiful nude in art”). Of course I’ve been known to peruse works of “The Hun”, or “Tom of Finland” as well. Tastes are “ALL over the place” – I am attracted to a huge range of different sorts of fellows, and my appreciation spans the distance from the beautiful, slender, graceful, elegant, soul-ful young man to the bulked up / ripped, scruffy, sweaty, muscle-man. Do we have to choose?

      • silibub

        *emerges from the woodwork* I really like the sensible/seductive contrast between Amanda and Sircea, and I think their choice in costume reflects their respective attitudes beautifully. I hope they continue to work as foils for each other as the story progresses, not only from a sartorial standpoint but in terms of their personalities as well. From what we’ve seen of Amanda so far, having her wear a revealing or impractical outfit would be wildly out of character, not to mention dangerous since the Protectors put themselves in a lot of situations where gratuitously exposed skin could be burned or lacerated. (I’m also glad that I didn’t misinterpret your subversive intent with Sircea’s costume in my big-ass Tumblr review, that would have been embarrassing.)

        I’m so excited to see you plug eschergirls, too — that’s such a great blog!

      • I have to agree that your fandom is pretty fantastic, Alex. Also, thanks for the tumblr. I’ve seen that blog before but it was before I joined the site so I…misplaced it. o_o

        • You’re very welcome. I think that blog is very special too. Glad you like it!

    • I should really start reading the comments more after the first day or so XD!
      I’m giving you internet high fives for the appreciation of the females portrayed in Alex’s comics. *high five*

      • SofiaT

        He is doing a great job with them! 😀

        Even Maven, whom I hated with a passion, I begrudgingly respected.

        The thing is, I know that Alex is creating the stories and characters he always wanted to see but, in the process, he’s also creating the stories and the kind of characters a lot of us always wanted to see and never got to.

        For some, that’s badass gay heroes who save the day and get the guy and for others it’s kickass women -whether in the good camp, or villains- who can hold their own.

        It’s like you’ve been thirsty for years and someone gives you a tall glass of cool water to drink. It’s pure bliss.

  • What are the other two guys doing here? I thought He asked him to come alone? I guess we will find out on Wednesday what’s up with that.

    Poor Kyle. 🙁

  • Oh damn crap! Woke up early, had a nice morning online, and it’s here by ruined. I feel like going back to bed now 🙁
    R.I.P Paul Walker.

    • Yep. In a FUCKING car accident. 🙁

      • Donald Burch

        The irony of his death strikes me as bitter indeed. I had such a crush on him. Lord and Lady help his soul rest peacefully.

        • It is indeed ironic that after years of racing, making the F&F movies where he performed a lot of his own car stunts that he dies as passenger in a car crash. At least he did what he loved in the moments before his death.

    • Sapfo

      Oh no! That is bad news.

    • bronakopdin

      if it wasn’t that my cousin died at thursday the same way (car accident as fellow passenger) with only 23 years I guess I could mourn for Paul more…

      • SofiaT

        *hugs* I’m sorry to hear that bronakopdin.

        • bronakopdin

          I’m thankful for your thoughts, all of you people ^^

          sadly my ties with my family aren’t that good do to some actions of my mother, that’s also why I was only informed by a text message…

          anyway thankfully I have some friends around who took care of me

          but again: thank you all, too, it’s nice to know that there are still people caring for others, even if they DON’T in the least know you… in my case better than most of my family members 🙂

          • SofiaT

            We are one big geeky family here!

            And you’re in good hands. Just give a shout any time you need an e-hug. 🙂

      • I’m so sorry to hear that. My condolences to you and your family.

      • *hugs* years ago when I was away at college my cousin died in an accident….I don’t think he had even turned 18 yet. Condolences for your loss.

      • I’m very sorry for your loss. I hope that you are surrounded with loved ones right now.

      • All my sympathies. Be gentle with yourself!

      • Sapfo

        I guess I can not add anything that has not already been said. Would like to wrap you in warm blankets and give you a hot drink you like. Because sometimes words are not enough.

  • Sapfo

    I wonder if we can get the donation to tip over before Wednesday?

  • Charli
    • SofiaT

      That’s cool! Did you make it??

      Oh, and welcome to the fandom! 🙂

  • mogoskier

    So I read the first page of the comic again where Kyle says “Oh to hell with it” and it broke my heart again. ):

    • Steven K.

      Funny – I did the same thing yesterday – and same thing happened.

  • Barbara Ruiz

    So I haven’t read in a WHILE, I just reread everything all at once and my heart is aching. I feel for Kyle, just happy that he had the courage to call for help as soon as he could.

    • Oh yeah… the RE-READ is a serious killer.

      Bring me my crying towel!!!!

      • Jamie Dutton

        You have a crying towel?

        • Steven K.

          I think one is kind of a necessity here. I wouldn’t be without mine since Duncan got all freaky occult on Kyle and the magic chains came out and he gave his “I don’t owe you anything” heartless bullshit.

  • b3nc0

    WHUT?‼? Do I read well that the donation bar tipped Saturday & it’s already over 300 bucks? Is it an Advent effect? Will this madness go ’til Xmas? ‘Til Easter? Is Anni paying through fake personas to get quicker to him coming back?

    • SofiaT

      It would be awesome if the bar tipped over for a second time before Wed/day’s update… Which at the moment seems very likely!! 😀

    • WHAT?????

      Is Anni paying Alex for preferential treatment? (ahem) Alex, we need to discuss this.

      *extra page vs demon invasion, extra page vs demon invasion, extra page vs demon invasion, extra page vs demon invasion…*

      • That’s a tough choice there… hmmm extra page or demon invasion…

        • Pish tosh… didn’t you already get the Hawaiian Islands via muffinage?

          • A small beach. I’m bargaining with butter cookies for the rest of the island.

          • If the girl scouts get Kaui I’m pitching a fit… just sayin’

          • heh, my brother has the theory that they drug the cookies to make them so addictive.

          • I like him already!

          • Oh no, i’m sure they’re trying for something bigger.

          • Steven K.

            Well, they’d have to bring out those “samoas” before I’d give up anything to them. Hmmmm…so why don’t the Boy Scouts – or at least Cub Scouts – sell cookies? It’s not like cookies are a butch/fem thing, right? Or, if they were really paranoid-ish-ly worired about such things, they could sell all kinds of nifty little action figures (i.e., masculine-ish term for “dolls for boys”) – or maybe little plastic dinosaurs – I was in love with those in my younger days. How about cookies in the shape of dinosaurs?

      • Hikaru Takemori

        I wouldn’t really mind if he did, it would ensure that we always have bonus pages. I don’t think ‘extra page vs demon invasion’ is really an issue here, because the more pages we get the faster Kyle and team can get to fix the invasion business.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Maybe it’s just more ppl wanting Kyle to finally put some pants on.

      • Steven K.

        Well, some of that here – unless it’s in a (hopefully) future circumstance to come where he WANTS to have his pants off with someone (once he – hopefully, again – gets past the trauma that each of his sexual experiences end in pain and tragedy) and with someone who is not going to betray his trust, abuse him, violate him, or break his heart.

        • Pardon me, and with all respect. I got a little lost here. Steven, would I be correct in interpreting your post as, at its simplest, meaning:

          Without Steven = Kyle has pants. With Steven = Kyle has no pants. Either way, Kyle is happy and fully consents to this state of affairs.

          Does this fairly represent your post? *smiles*

          • Steven K.

            If Kyle would want me in an intimate way (and seeing that I’d never do anything to hurt him – and MEAN it, cross my heart, etc.), then he’s ok to be without his pants, and he can still quickly hop into the bed and under the covers if he’s still shy (I won’t complain, cuz I still think that was just adorable) – or if there’s anyone else that he wants to be intimate with who has also sworn, on pain of death, that they also would never do anything to hurt or use or abuse Kyle, or violate his trust or his person or use of his person in any way without consent, then Kyle is OK to be pants-less with them. Kyle should not be pants-less in any situation he does not want to be pants-less in, nor in any situation where he’d be uncomfortable or embarrassed or ashamed being pants-less in – nor should he be pants-less WITH anyone who is going to do ANYTHING (that he would perceive to be) negative with/to/on/in him. I know that was a rhetorical and less-than-serious question, so forgive me for providing a serious-ish reply – but this kinda stuff’s even more important from here on out. SOMEONE’s gotta watch out for and be protective of Kyle, and be a true, CARING and LOVING “daddy” for Kyle – at least until Laampros steps up, abandons his plans for living-world conquest and epic-scale soul-ingestion, and starts to finally take on his role as a father and start spending a lot of quality time with the love-starved hottie-boy.

  • SofiaT

    Cool. Always nice to learn new things 🙂

    Btw, if you wish to actively participate in the comments’ section (and I hope you will!), you might want to consider verifying your email address with Disqus. This way your comments will post immediately and not get stuck waiting to be moderated. 🙂

  • Tesha

    I really need to stop reading this comic at work, I get all emotional and it’s starting to confuse some people in the office….but it’s just so addictive

    • Addictive you say… I couldn’t get to my computer for three hours after the last new page was up due to a party at my house. I thought I’d lose my mind, get committed and get thumped by my husband…

      If you want to feel less alone just read the first paragraph. You are SO NOT ALONE! Good luck! 😀

      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch3pt1-page-3/#comment-1145047622

      • Hikaru Takemori

        Ha ^^, my symptom of this addiction is waking up around camping time every wednesday and saturday even when I decided the day before I would not be camping.

        • And why would you resist camping? It’s futile. >:D

          Edit: Or would the twirling mustache face be better here. :{D

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Well, for once needing to get my sleeping scedule into acceptable forms again. I can’t stay up until morning dawns and expect to be attentive in uni afterwards.

          • Very well you are excused this time! But you’ll be back… 😛

          • Hikaru Takemori

            As if I didn’t know that myselfe xD. You said it yourselfe ‘resistence is futile’.

          • XD

          • AJ is mad with power she is….

          • :{D

          • Ahahahahahahahaha….

          • Well, sometimes the visual helps.

            Glad to see that the cough was taken care of 😛

        • SofiaT

          I wake up at around 5.30am every morning. My body just decides to press the “on” button, no alarm clock needed.

          My first move? Hand darts to the bedside table and grabs the phone to check the new comments. I usually read them with one eye open and one still closed 😛

      • Steven K.

        You think you’ve got problems with this! – lol – I find I’m routinely up till 2 a.m. thinking about things and reading comments here even on those mornings when I have to get up at 4!

  • SofiaT

    It’s a new month and the Top Web Comics started a new vote-count!

    Go vote for The Young Protectors and Artifice, they’ve slipped down the stairs again -but it shouldn’t be too hard bringing them back where they belong (in the Top 100)!

    • Voted!

    • Done! Thanks!

    • Sapfo

      Yes Madam/Mademoiselle/Mod/Mad Hatter!

      (I realized just how much that begin with the letter M)

      • SofiaT

        You forgot “Majesty” 😛

        • Sapfo

          Sorry Your Majesty! It will not happen again. 😉

          • SofiaT

            You are pardoned. 😉

    • dereule101

      *wears his I Voted sticker*

  • Lunam_Kardas

    Well this is going to suck
    “So guys for the last few weeks I’ve been dating the supervillain Annihilator, Duncan for short, and I was hoping to finally get some sexual relief tonight but then I kind of orgasmed us both to a hell dimension where he traded half the planet to this big scary NAKED demon called Lampross in exchange for youthful immortality, after which I was informed by said big scary Naked demon that he is my biological father. Long story short, Duncan closed the portal, said he was sorry for the emotional scars and bounced….so that’s why I’m naked on a fireproof bed in the middle of a warehouse. How was your night?”

    • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

      That is basically the smoothest I can see it going….but….not likely to come out (opps) that way. well…..next few pages’ll be awkward….

  • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

    Well, that isn’t really going alone to get him…but I guess he isn’t in much room to complain. Poor Kyle.

  • WarGoddess

    Is it bad that all I’m thinking is “nice car?” lol.
    I wanted to comment sooner, but for some reason disqus has completely changed things on mobile and I can’t respond on my phone anymore. It makes me sad. 🙁
    I can still see the updates, though, which is good. 😀

    • And glad to see you! I was wondering if you had to go into hiding or something…

      There have been quite a few ideas for fan art lately.

      • SofiaT

        You just want to see Anni in a mankini and high-heels, admit it!!

        • ……I was actually wanting The Sound of Music Torture of Duncan one….

          I think Chris was the one who mentioned it on the last page….

          • Steven K.

            “Raindrops and roses and whiskers on kittens,
            Doorbells and sleigh bells and warm woolen mittens…..”

          • “What do you do with a problem like Stev-en?
            How do you take a cloud and hold it down?????”

          • Steven K.

            Sorry – I had to correct that – “Raindrops ON roses”. – fingers faster than brain that time. But DO NOT get me started with the edelweiss!

          • …the way that song is sung in that movie makes me tear up

          • Steven K.

            Edelweiss? Umm…me too, can’t deny it. Not that I’m overly in love with that particular musical, but I do like a few of the songs rather much, even if terribly sentimental, as I’m a sentimental sort of fellow., for good or ill.

        • You have to admit, that would be kinda awesome… 😐

  • Kiri

    Yay! I can comment again. Notes to others – if the page starts looking like a set of bullet points – clear your cache. I didn’t realise mine was full.

    As bad as things are – I am SO proud of Kyle. That he reached out to his friends for help is a super-human effort, when he’s in that much despair.

    He is a hero.

  • Emiko

    I check in here every day, just in case–in CASE Alex uploads something for us. I know it’s not Wednesday or Saturday, but maybe it is in some part of the world? eh? who’s with me folks? <3 this comic

    • jreed3842

      I’m the same way! I’m like “Maybe Alex will be like ‘SURPRISE BONUS STRIP!’ ” Lol!

  • coyoteconscious

    That first panel was heartbreaking. I’ve been the receiver of that phone call before. The rest of the comic cheered me up, seeing that Kyle has the kinds of friends who will be there for him.

  • mmm. I remembered something I meant to include in my earlier long post.

    I think Kyle cried himself out and got himself mostly calmed down before he used his com to contact help. When telling Fluke the non-specifics he started getting a little upset again. This is something that will happen to me, something will greatly upset me I will cry/scream it out. I will be all calm and then when I talk to someone about it after I am calm, it brings it back and I get upset all over again.

    While Kyle has been waiting I think he has been figuring just how and what he is going to be telling Fluke. I just hope he doesn’t break down while in the telling, but I think there are going to be a few more tears on Kyle’s part.

    • Steven K.

      Sad but true. I’m soooo hoping and praying (and I’m more of an agnostic) that Alex navigates these moments for Kyle with the charity and understanding and compassion that that his creation of Kyle deserves to be given. As Alex made him such a wonderful and beautiful and good-natured and kind and giving/generous and heroic etc., etc. lad in the first place, I should be forgiven if I should want only the best from here on out for such a fellow, especially after all the past and present – and undeserved – suffering that has torn up most of our hearts that Alex has put the poor kid through so far. A rhetorical shout into the creative aether: “Alex, is your prayer-line open??”

      • *click*

        I’m sorry all prayer lines are busy at the moment please call back later……..

        *click*

        • Steven K.

          Don’t worry, I managed to at least get through to the answering service. They seemed very understanding, at least. I could have been dreaming, however – been nodding on and off for the last hour or so.

          • Nodding on and off is better than not being able to concentrate on much of anything for the past few days right? I keep starting and stopping multiple things…I have had up to 6 or 7 comics up in different tabs for re reading and commenting, Often I would get partially through a comment then go do something else. I am thinking that this might be a prelude to me going into a bad spell for a bit.

          • Steven K.

            Awww – try to resist all bad spells. You don’t want to go through what Kyle did ;). In any case, best of luck managing all that – keep sharp and your wits about you – I know you can work through it all and gain some clarity of focus eventually. Taking a little time out to meditate once in a while can help.

          • Well, if I am going into a bad spell, there is nothing much that I can do to stop it. I can just hope that it is a short one and I don’t get sent too far into the bad place.

          • Sapfo

            Hug?

          • SofiaT

            Wanna think of something to cheer you up? …It’s an update day tomorrow for both YP and EMR 🙂

  • FLUKE YOU WEREN’T SUPPOSED TO TELL ANYONE!!!!!!!! WHY DID YOU BRING THEM?!?!?!

  • So.. with the debate we had about females in comics, and more specificly their clothes – or lack of – then I just saw this whole new comic strip by Humon and loved it. The artist comment below say it 🙂
    http://humoncomics.com/magical-men
    Comic even touch the smaller debate below about wether or not we women want the really masculine superhero or one who show more ‘softer’ sides.

    • That was awesome!

    • Sapfo
      • Sapfo,

        *chris bows with deep respect*

        Thank you so much. I loved this video more than words can say. This is really wonderful and very special and exactly what America needs to hear over and over and over.

        Thank you.

        It reminds me of a quote attributed to male (feminist)Shen Wang (although often, misattributed and seen with a picture of comedienne, Betty White). He’s a Taiwanese Texan and comedy writer:

        “Why do people say “Grow some balls?” Balls are weak and sensitive! If you really wanna get tough grow a vagina, those things will take a pounding!”

        • Sapfo

          Thank you Chris!

          Here we see a lot of movies form Hollywood, and there is one thing that allways bothered me, And that is when the father of a family is leaving and before going says to the 10-yearold boy that he is now the man of the family.

          Why put such responsibility on a little kid? Should it not be the the parent (mother) that should take the responsibility for the family?

          I know that this scene is suppose to be sentimental and so on. But I just don´t get it and every time I see such a scene I don´t get teary eyed, I get mad!

          • SofiaT

            That reminded me of a book I once read. A mother, her son and daughter, both very little, are in a destroyed city in a time of war. I think a sholdier had just killed their father in front of their eyes or something like that.

            The woman turns to the girl and says “you, forget what you just saw”. And then, turning to the boy “and you. Never forget”.

            Besides the fact that you can’t order someone to forget or remember something, so that scene was plain stupid on that accord alone, I don’t like the implication that the fragile, innocent little girl should leave the forrific scene behind her but the boy (who was of a similar age, maybe even younger) had to “man up” and remember forever what had happened, as that would forge him into the man he’d later become or he could then go looking for revenge or -even worse- he’s now supposed to know some wise and profound sh*t about life. At the tender age of 8.

          • Sapfo

            Leave the kids alone (both girls and boys) and let the parents be the one how takes responsibility.

          • Agree with all that.

            What I also hate about male teachings in certain parts of the world is the idea that you inherit a male responsibility to exact revenge. Man up and go kill the soldier who killed your father … in say 15 years… FUQ.

            Transmuting that into YP… so what does that philosophy do to Kyle? If the male-message to him is now was you HAVE to devote the rest of your life to destroying The Annihilator!! He stole your manhood and you must spend the ass-end of forever chasing and trying to kill him.

            In any example… the message is destroy your soul for revenge? The Manly way? GAAAAAD. Makes me want to Kack!

          • I so agree. It’s a fucked up way of saying be there for your mother… SO SAY THAT! So right.

            Edit: It also speaks to those clichés that get said so often the words lose their meaning and become absurd or destructive.

    • Thanks Wolf so agree. Love Humon.

      Just note about masculinity and softer sides you mention. *It gets complicated because the conversation is about both LOOK and about ACTION. I can LOOK like Chris Hemsworth (I wish), but I can also be sensitive and there is no way I’M not crying when sad… even if I’m looking Hulk-like.

      “HULK SMASH. THEN HULK CRYYYYY.”

    • Niggle

      I love Humon!!! (Sorry, my comment isn’t going to be any more insightful than that.)

      • I don’t think much more needs to be said beyond that!

  • Hi Abbi! Just wanted to let you know that if you verify your email with Discus, your comments will post right away instead of getting stuck in moderation. 🙂

  • Aww poor Kyle 🙁

  • Jackal

    Those times when real friends ignore what you tell them. Seriously, if there is anything but a “Dude, we knew/It’s OK 2 B GAY” scene ahead, I will hold my breath until I turn purple, and then you’ll all be sorry.

  • kireb

    well, Kyle sounded weird, he was crying, was tracked in the mountains, and asked Paul to bring him cloths. Paul most likely jumped into the conclusion that Kyle was raped. that is why he is bringing more friends with him. like he should.

  • SofiaT

    That’s awesome! I love the “sound” of that little bell! 😀
    No rest for Alex, Adam and Veronica mwa haha!!

    • Sapfo

      All work and all play make fans very happy!

  • Klaus

    $557. I hope this means that Alex is not going to lose money on the bonus page.

    • SofiaT

      What do you mean?

      • Sapfo

        I think he means that on some webreaders it do not say 400, but it says 557.

        • SofiaT

          It says so on mine too. I just don’t get how Alex could lose that. It was a sincere question -I haven’t had breakfast yet 😛

          • Sapfo

            XD this is a good combo. tired people teands to thinking so clearly 😉
            btw, saw Thor 2 today. It was good. Saw HungerGames 2 yesterday.

          • SofiaT

            I loved Thor, but you know that already 😛
            I’ve still to watch Hunger Games, maybe this weekend.

          • Sapfo

            Thor was so much better then the first one. Could not stop smiling when Skarsgård jumped around naked XD
            And Asgård was so beautifully done.

            Hunger Games was great to, I can proudly say I only cryed 3 times. Some things where cut from the books, but nothing that had any major inpakt on the movement of the story.

          • I suspect Alex hasn’t had time to reset his chart… all will be well. 😀 But this means extra page next week and we’re started on the following week. Squeeeee.

            Edit: Re this bonus page thing. Is there a limit when Adam and Veronica stage a coup from exhaustion? I just want to be ready. 😀

          • Sapfo

            <..>

            Ssssh! chris not to loud, you might give adam and veroica ideas. just keep feading them coffee and candy….

      • Klaus

        Alex has stated several times that the $400 do not cover the cost of an extra page. Every bonus page costs him money. I hope that with significantly more than $400 ,this one does not.

        • SofiaT

          Ah, I get you now!

          I read “lose” and thought you meant another Paypal mix up -like when you tried to donate and it showed on the bar but the money never left your account.

          Did you figure that out btw?

          • Klaus

            No. However, I have tried again, and this time a got a reciept mail. Last time I did not. So maybe I made som sort of error last time, and did not complete the transaction. The donation bar going up may havde been coincidence. Or maybe it did not. You see what you expect to see.

  • Tina

    Woohoo camping tonigh- oh wait i can’t… gotta be up at 5 in the morning >:/

    Oh well I’ll see the page before work! Looking forward to it!

    Also great to see a double bonus page!

  • Camping super early I guess. Anyone else?

  • Katie Taylor

    Is it wednesday yet?

    • SofiaT

      It is where I am 😀

  • Jena

    I am super excited to see how this all goes down! I don’t think Kyle can get any more upset than he already is so I think he’ll actually be happy by the extra support Paul has brought along with him.

  • Ryn

    same here. after much begging and apologies on his part. Can anyone else see Duncan sending a room full of flowers to Kyle?

    hey, if kyle loses his confidence in his powers, what with the prince of hell thing, and quits the team he could always become a firefighter.

  • Hello Campers!

    Just wanted to let you know that Alex is traveling and as with the time of year in the States there have been delays. The page will be late tonight I’m afraid. As of now, it’ll most likely be posted sometime after Midnight PST. But, never fear, there will be a page!

    • So those that can should take a short nap and set alarms?

      • Naps never hurt anyone. 🙂 If there’s a change Sofia or I will let everyone know.

        • I could also suggest since it looks like it is going to be awhile that people could go read Elan Meets Rafa while they wait. If they don’t need the nap.

          http://elanmeetsrafa.com/the-comic

          • SofiaT

            I love that you shamelessly pimp EMR, I do the same with YP and Artifice, all the freaking time 😀

            And of course now you’ve got me hooked on EMR too. 😛

          • ^_^ Well, it is the least I can do since themice has promised me a shower scene with Elan and Rafa and the story and art are amazing. ^_^ (and the second time you mention it you typed EMP not EMR 😛 )

          • SofiaT

            It was fixed right away but you need to refresh to see it. iPhone fingers 😛

          • Yes, yes you could. 😀

      • Steven K.

        Doesn’t have to be all that short – since it sounds like it will be over 5 and a half hours from now.

        • You have obviously never had one of my “short” naps. ^_^

          The ones that are meant to be only an hour and then end up being about 4…..

    • Holly

      How unjust. I have no work tomorrow so I could have camped, but I am far too sleepy to stay up if the page is going to be THAT late. That is well after 4am my time.

      Well, I hope Alex has a safe trip. I suppose I will hang out for a short time in the camp, though I will miss the page update. 🙁

      • You can read EMR while you wait. It was just updated with two new pages today. It is a great story with great art. ^_^ Just ask any of the others I have gotten hooked. ^_^

        http://elanmeetsrafa.com/the-comic

        • Eve

          What else do you recommend? I also love Tripping Over You, http://trippingoveryou.com . Have you read Fey Winds? It’s beautifully drawn comedic fantasy. No bl, but interesting characters. http://www.feywinds.com

          • …..I should have followed themice’s suggestion and have my recs all typed up in a nice formalized way in an easy to find way and all in one place. Give me a bit. *goes off to find the last time she posted a list* *comes back 5 hours later* Found it!

            Misc
            GitP: Order of the Stick – A great “stick figure” comic about a D&D adventuring party. Great characters with great lines. Hilarious. Ongoing.
            http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html

            Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire – A great comic following the trials and tribulations of Dominic who can see into the past, see into future, make others see the truth, and fight on the psychoplane. A very funny, pun and alliterative comic that will aslo make you cry. Completed.
            http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2002-05-21

            Mega Tokyo – A couple of gamer geeks get stuck in Tokyo. Because, that’s were EVERYTHING happens, magic girls, zombies, girl robots built to be a girlfriend that ends up attending school, rampaging monsters. Just make sure your zombie horde has a license and doesn’t get the day wrong. Fun and crazy times times for everyone. Ongoing.
            http://megatokyo.com/strip/1

            Sam and Fuzzy – Funny, dark, crazy. How do you describe a comic were the main character goes from cab driver to taking out the ninja mafia (sort of) to being a roadie to being the head of the ninja mafia. And let us not leave out the psychotic talking teddy bear Fuzzy. Fuzzy….I almost feel sorry for Sam sometimes. But there are all kinds of crazy lovable characters and insane hijinks. There is some blood and violence. Black and white. Ongoing.
            http://samandfuzzy.com/archive.php?comicID=1

            AppleGeeks – Is a good comic, sadly no longer running, but I still recommend it. I enjoyed reading it a lot.
            http://www.applegeeks.com/comics/viewcomic.php?issue=1

            Ctrl+Alt+Del – A great comic following the every day lives of a couple of gamers. One of which builds a robot out of a 360….hehehe….fun times, fun times. They even have an invented Holiday: Winter-een-mas. A holiday for gamers. Much hilarity and hijinks and the boys learn to NEVER underestimate a female gamer.
            http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20021023

            Little Gamers – a cute little comic
            http://www.little-gamers.com/2000/12/01/99/

            Penny Arcade – Another comic about a couple of gamer guys. Hilarious. I love Gabe and Tycho and I there are probably only a few things that they DON’T reference.
            http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1998/11/18

            VG Cats – a kind of gamer comic staring cats
            http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=0

            Yaoi
            [[ Paradox ]] has a really good story. I don’t really recall that many sex scenes, but I really enjoyed the story. There are parts had me laughing for quite a bit. It is completed, but the author mentions a sequel.

            http://paradoxcomic.smackjeeves.com/comics/310707/damn-thats-high/

            Betovering is about a guy that would have been born a girl (because that is how things go in his family), but one of his relatives cast a curse while she was in the womb causing her to be him. As he was originally supposed to be a girl with witch powers, he is now a boy with witch powers and is cursed not to know happiness. Ongoing.

            http://betovering.smackjeeves.com/comics/1655327/betovering-chap-1-colored/

            Demented starts out with the two main characters’ shared storyline, one kills the other and then the story splits up. Demons and angels and a love that shouldn’t have been. It is still in progress, but I am really enjoying the story. Ongoing.

            http://demented.webcomic.ws/comics/first/

            Devoto is about a demon who makes contracts with humans with loopholes. (Which he really isn’t supposed to do, but both he and his mentor try to leave as much leeway as they can get by with.) The art is really sweet and just as warning there are some naughty bits shown. Though it kinda makes me wish I was a guy and Devoto was the demon I summoned…..mmmm. Ongoing

            http://devoto.smackjeeves.com/comics/1402773/title-1/

            Elan Meets Rafa is really good. This one is done in pencil art? Elan rebels against his father and is cast penniless into the streets. He wants to live his own life but isn’t really sure how to do that. He ends up finding a way to live in the slums and making the acquaintance of Rafa. This is a work currently in progress and has a great story. I highly recommend this comic.

            http://elanmeetsrafa.com/the-comic/ch1pg1/

            Forced Seduction is a tale about a guy seducing another guy on a bet. It wasn’t meant to be another guy of course, but the bet is set before he remembers that it should have been “girl” instead of “person”. Hehehe, but that is what makes things fun yes? It is completed and it was a cute read.

            http://forced-seduction.smackjeeves.com/comics/668059/cover/

            Kaito Shuno has an interesting story, but the art isn’t all that detailed and might be considered bad. Kaito is in a dead end job that he hates and meets Shuno when he fails to kill himself by jumping into a very shallow river. It turns out that they knew each other for a short time when they were kids and Shuno has spent most of his life trying to find Kaito again. If you can handle not so great art, it does have a fairly interesting story. Ongoing.

            http://kaitoshuno.smackjeeves.com/comics/1184396/page-1/

            My Personal Angel is I would say relatively new, but it has a promising story. The main character in the story, you cannot help but feel sorry for. Gauthier has been having the worst luck imaginable and it doesn’t quite change when he wishes on a star and gets sent a guardian angel in training. The art is good and is in manga style read.

            http://bishiland.net/mypersonalangel/en/

            Replica is not about incest. I just want to make it clear that there is no blood relation between the guys in this story. Because I know some people are weird about the incest thing, I just wanted to make it clear that it isn’t. The elder son is revealed to be of no relation to the family and is also a contender for the throne, to protect him they send him away to safety. Unfortunately it wasn’t that safe and his carriage is attacked. Years later the younger son goes to buy a slave to help in the gardens only to find his “older brother’s” “twin”. http://replica.smackjeeves.com/comics/1562885/cover/

            Seiyuu Crush is about a voice actor that due to unknown circumstances can only find work at Crush. Crush has in its employ a motley crew of……unique individuals. They do voice work for boy love and yaoi situations. That the main character hasn’t been interactive with either one of his two coworkers that have fallen in love with him yet is amazing.

            http://www.seiyuucrush.net/index.php?page=1

            The Dragon and the Lemur takes place in a world where you have three basic sets of living beings. Humanoids (they have two forms, mostly human and animal), humans and animals. The humans so far do not play a main part in the current story. Which is okay. Once you get part the alternating good art/bad art pages it is much easier to read. The story is good and please do not judge for the bad art pages at the beginning.

            http://dal.smackjeeves.com/comics/1055557/cover/

            What Happens in Carpediem… is an interesting story that starts out in the MMORPG world which slowly shifts to some non-game-world scenes. I really like the art in this story and the next chapter is promised to be out soon. Nao-to and his friend while having reached a decently high level, have somehow managed to remain relatively worthless. Enter Kurugawa who saves their butt. They manage to convince him to join them in adventuring and that is when the fun begins.

            http://whic.smackjeeves.com/comics/1373895/whut-nani-issue-02-cover/

            These write ups are a little old. But until I make a formal in depth rec for all of these, this will have to do.

      • There is always setting an alarm to see it fresh. But your company is always welcome, even if you have to leave before the page. 🙂

        • Holly

          naw I can’t screw up my sleep pattern that much. Especially since i don’t KNOW when the page will be up. If I get up at 4am and it’s not up I’ll be grumpy. Plus I DO work on Thursday, so I can’t sleep too late tomorrow.

          So I will just sit hear wishing i wasn’t too full for a milkshake, and being made a Paul for not listening to Kyle.

          • Well as I said, your company is always a blast, even if you can’t stay for the page. 🙂

          • Holly

            BAD PAUL! Not listening to Kyle. Bringing along Spooky and Flyboy.

            I MEAN THE CHILD IS 15. HE DOES NOT NEED TO SEE REAL LIFE NUDE KYLE.

          • How else though was Paul going to get where he needed going? Someone had to fly the car. And since it was most likely Spooky’s car…

          • Holly

            Oh right, Paul’s car got destroyed a few months ago….

            Still…. I don’t think Kyle will be happy. But at lease Tsunami and The Commander aren’t there.

          • He might not be happy, but sometimes it’s better to have back up. Paul wouldn’t know just what he might be walking into.

          • Eve

            Paul looks awfully worried/guilty. I feel awful for Kyle. Eventually the truth will come out. It makes me think of Buffy after Becoming in season 2.

          • Yes he does. Though I have to admit, I’m wondering if he’s a little car sick too, but that’s me. 🙂

            I wasn’t very devout with Buffy I’m afraid, so I’m not sure what happened there.

          • Steven K.

            Right about that!

          • If Sircea and her metal boobies knew where I was, I’d want me some Spooky real close by. But, then again, I’d want some Spooky even if she were far far away. 😛

          • Adam Black

            cmon.. would you try them on?

          • How much padding are we talking about in there?

            Nahhhhh… I’d be fugly in sorceress drag.

          • Adam Black

            you know you want the full madonna

          • Holly

            haha Oh Chris you are a Card

          • Duuuuuude… come on. It’s not torture. He’s going to have to take PE in school. Seeing a naked penis does NOT (contrary to popular belief) make your face melt off… In fact most of the people on this list have been begging Alex for a sight of naked penis…

            *funny I thought canadians were more advanced about this stuff…. go figure.*

          • Holly

            I personally believe that Flyboy has a crush on Kyle, and that Kyle would never hookup with a 15 year old. So this would just set Flyboy up for disappointment.

          • Welcome to the world Mitch… best get used to it.

          • Adam Black

            If hes 15, hes looking to compare.

          • You know I cannot deny that.

          • Adam Black

            change that, to “does compare”
            dont they have Gang showers?

          • I don’t think YP head quarters is in THAT bad a neighborhood.

          • Adam Black

            you better go in the showers, and check to be sure

          • stickfigurefairytales

            And then report back.

          • Adam Black

            or set up video camaars

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Only if you get permission from them all first.

          • Adam Black

            forgiveness is easier

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Tell that to Kyle (yes, I know it’s not remotely the same thing, but still)

          • Adam Black

            I take this comment, as proof-in-action, that you agree with me, and are putting the principal to personal use
            ( takes a bow )

          • stickfigurefairytales

            You are not forgiven for that.

          • Adam Black

            I think you may have the principal of ‘Forgiveness is easier than permission’ , muddled.

            For that knowing ( and thus non-innocent, analogy:
            “yes, I know it’s not remotely the same thing” )

            The duty or option of Forgiveness, is mine.

            You may object to its presumptuousness, but what it presumes upon is mutually graciousness. To deny that risks becoming less than we criticize, even as we engage that same presumption in our daily lives. perhaps even in this moment.
            I fear , in the interim , any guilt, may now have hardened. Thus chastened , I relieve your burden:
            You are now forgiven.
            Because I can.
            ( Takes a second , and third longer bow )

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Well put, sir. Good show.

          • Adam Black

            Quick, Now help me set up this webcam while the boys are away…

          • You think I haven’t?

          • Adam Black

            well, which heroes are cut?

          • Well Paul has these awesome stomach muscles that… oh… you mean…

            Alex has forbidden this report due to YP privacy concerns. I’m afraid I can’t say…

          • Adam Black

            Alex, and his Kickstarters!

          • Two words dude! Flying car…. Flying… car…

          • Adam Black

            right.
            I’m sure thats what YOU would do with Flyboy.

          • …Kyle waited 6 years, he can wait three more for Flyboy!

          • Holly

            LOVE YOUR BRAIN

          • Doki…. no no no. All our current problems stem from the fact that Kyle is in serious need of some… you know.

            He needs to get his lurve-skillz on and then if he is still interested in three years (that’s like 200 years at that age when sex is involved) he’ll have something to teach young Mitch and Alex will have to think up a new story because Mitch will be all “Erm no thanks Old dude… I’ve got some.” when some super villain thinks he’s gonna scam him. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            Unless maybe he might like seeing “real life nude Kyle.”.

    • WHO DARED UP-VOTE SUCH A HEINOUS MESSAGE. This is a terrible horrible awful frightening message. What if the wi-fi in his connecting airport is out??? HAHHHH think about THAT? This is so so so *chris runs madly about the house waving hands about madly*

      Damn holidays…… *grumble, mutter, snarl, grinch*

      *chris slams down-vote repeatedly and nothing happens… figures*

      • *hugs* Would you like a laced mint hot Chocolate Chris sweetie?

      • Sapfo

        But chris, you have to press downvot an uneven number of times. Otherwise the upvotes will win. Muahahaha!

        • Damn down-vote gyp!!!!!!!!!

          • Sapfo

            It is the curse of Laampors. o.O

  • Jamie Dutton

    I’ll be camping off and on, since Alex is gonna be late. Ooo, Spaceballs is on!
    May the Schwartz be with you!

    • Holly

      now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

      WOW,,, that hit a little close to home.

      • Jamie Dutton

        Nice one, Holly

      • silibub

        I shouldn’t be laughing this hard but here I am, half-choking on a piece of cookie dough. Shit, son!

        • Are you scarfing raw cookie dough again? *shakes head*

          • silibub

            Only god can judge me!

          • Holly

            What about judicial judges?

          • silibub

            I hope I’m never in a position to find out…

          • Holly

            *thumbs up* Ditto

      • No kidding… like right to the bone. See what happens when you work Black Friday!

        • Holly

          That, and i work Christmas Eve, and there was an issue with student loans. Many things to make Holly unhappy.

          Plus people are singing the vile song at me >_<

          • Oh the pain… the pain… MORPHENE FOR HOLLY…

            wait does that work for your kind?

          • Holly

            Opiates are very lovely even for androids.

          • Steven K.

            You notice she always gives these tiny hints or teasing tidbits (then just stops – no more elaboration) relating to all those catastrophic things she endures at work – e.g.: “there was an incident”. Then someone has to pry the rest out after she teases us with these little premonitions of the horror before she’s pressured to eventually more fully expound on it.

          • Holly

            My mommy accidentally caught me on a stocking nail when i was 2 and she was being silly singing that song.

            Plus, I’m never sure who wants to hear my stories.

          • Steven K.

            Aww – your stories are always interesting – it’s just too bad that so many of them involve unpleasant things happening to you. But my life is like that most of the time, so I guess I can relate to those.

          • Holly

            Yeah well the good things are never quite so awesome as the bad things. The bad things tend to be more epic. Sometimes the bad things are a result of good things. Like the Waterslide accident. Which is a good example of something that was really fun for me, and then turned bad; but story wise the ending is the best part.

          • Steven K.

            Which is the vile song? Have a Holly Jolly Christmas? The Holly and the Ivy?

          • Holly

            No I love those ^_^

            Deck the Halls.First, because there was a incident. Second people ALWAYS sing that one AT me. There are fun christmas carol jokes with people, but it’s Deck the Halls people insist to sing AT me.

  • rgleon9986

    Hey guys. I had a really, really stressful, terrible day and I’ve succumbed to what I call an “unscheduled cheat day” for my diet: I’ve been eating my emotions and stress. Anyway, I just wanted to drop in and say hi and camp out with my fellow YP-enthusiasts, because I seriously need to let off some steam. 🙁

    • Holly

      RELEASE THE STEAM! *loosens valves helpfully*

    • Jamie Dutton

      Aw, well have a seat and some tea. I just got back from some serious holiday shopping…it was scary ><;

      • That’s why I do most of my shopping on line. Cause damn!

      • Holly

        I WORKED ON BLACK FRIDAY!!! So yeah…

        • rgleon9986

          My goodness, you are braver than I am!

          • Holly

            Yeah Brave. I kind of just have no choice. Just like the fact that I WORK ON CHRISTMAS EVE! But it’s a seasonal job, got to eat as many hours as I can.

        • ….and survived? Wow….*starts digging around* I know I have one around here somewhere! *continues to dig* Hmmm I might need to go spelunking. Give me a minute. *goes spelunking through her stuff* AH found it! *hands Holly a plaque that says I worked Black Friday and Lived to Tell the Tell*

          • Holly

            THANK YOU ^_^

            I should mention that the mall I work at is kind of usually dead, so Black Friday was as bad as other people. But there were FOUR PEOPLE in one tiny kiosk with only one register so yeah…

        • Oh the horror… the horror… *shudders*

        • Steven K.

          Hopefully no more falling/crashing retail infrastructure and/or signage/plaque-age.

          • Holly

            I CUT MY HAND OPEN WITH A KNIFE.

            We sell pocket knives at the engraving shop where I work. This injury did happen on Black Friday. Vile day.

          • Sapfo

            Poor android. I have a few screws and nuts, if it would help you heal

          • Holly

            No my structure is fine. I only harmed my skin, but there is not way to repair it.

          • Sapfo

            Not even puppydog kisses and unicorn love o.O

          • Holly

            Magic has tendencies to mess with my circuts. But yes, puppy kisses help. You have puppies?!

          • Sapfo
          • Steven K.

            Oh NO! Ow! You remind me of my mother – getting into all kinds of accidents with knives and stuff – though she’s usually trying to hurry too much in the kitchen. Be careful!

          • rgleon9986

            🙁 Poor Holly! Feel better, hon.

      • rgleon9986

        I’m glad I did all my holiday shopping before Thanksgiving. 🙂

    • Well you’ve indeed come to the right place. 🙂

    • Torke159

      Aww D: Calm down and relax,everything will be alright,We support each other here <3

      • Hi Torke! Just wanted to suggest verifying your email with Discus, this got caught in moderation. 🙂

    • Eve
    • A wise and august member of this Group gave me this one day, when I was feeling similarly. May it help you as it helped me….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRC4Vk6kisY

      • Sapfo

        My apprentice, you have learned well. I’m proud!

  • rgleon9986

    Oh, btw, how awesome is it that Marriage Equality is finally a reality in Hawai’i?

    • Holly

      So awesome. How many states does the US have left?

      • Too many.

      • rgleon9986

        35, I believe.

        • Yup, too many. 😐

          • rgleon9986

            Don’t worry. I know it seems like a long way off, but more and more states will legalize it, it’ll be revisited by the Supreme Court again after a while, and then this will all be behind us (the legal part, anyway).

          • That’s what I’m hoping for!

          • Holly

            It’s so weird that this is still an issue. Then again Canada has marriage equality since 2005. We were the fourth country to do so. FIRST non-European country.

            But then, Canada is awesome. ^_^ http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/sites/mediacoop.ca/files2/mc/imagecache/page450/sites/mediacoop.ca/files2/mc/dised2010-10-01.jpg

          • rgleon9986

            Canada IS awesome; of course, you’re talking to an Anglophile, and Canada (in my opinion) mixes many of the best qualities of both the United Kingdom and the United States (with a bit of France thrown in for good measure). I wish I’d visited Canada while I lived in New York, but I just never took the time.

          • Steven K.

            Did you never go to Niagra Falls? It’s pretty awesome too – both the Canadian side and the American side.

          • rgleon9986

            Unfortunately not. I just never took the time or set aside the money. 🙁

          • Steven K.

            I’ll agree as well – Canada IS awesome! The U.S. is lagging behind sooo many places in sooo many ways. I’d rather live in Canada, except I’m cold enough here in Michigan – so maybe somewhere in a temperate part of Europe would be ideal for me.

          • Holly

            My friend in Oklahoma told me it was too cold for him to live in Canada. Then it turned out it was the EXACT same temperature in both places. canada really isn’t THAT cold.

          • rgleon9986

            I love the cold weather. When I lived in New York, I found the 20 degree whether invigorating. Now I go running when it’s below freezing; I love it!
            Not too bad for a Texas boy.

          • Holly

            I replied to this but it’s not showing up for me. Should I repost what I said?

          • No it’s there. Just refresh a couple of times. It’s been happening to me too.

          • Holly

            Yeah I saw that. I went back a page and came back and it was there. ^_^

          • I know. The USA is so cool.

            Do you know we finally struck down same sex anti-sodomy laws in 2003 in Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Virginia.

            We are so cool and ahead of our time.

          • Mississippi just ratified the 13th Amendment a couple of years ago.

          • *Yayyyyyyyyyy*

          • I know!

            😐

          • rgleon9986

            Yay, it was passed. Only a couple of years ago? :p

          • Yah. I’m just being stinky as one who can remember when it was illegal to be ME…. go usa…

            It is getting better. A little all the time.

          • Sapfo

            May you never be outlawed again!

          • Here here!

          • *bows*

            Thank you both. I am a sucky criminal and not in the good way.

          • Sapfo

            Maybe you should get yourself a mask. So people understand how criminal you have been. 😉

          • I don’t know if he looks good in horizontal stripes.

          • Sapfo

            I think he is more of a no shirt kind of guy. With some chains

          • There is that…. Does he have water dripping down his chest too?

          • Sapfo

            But of course! Would not have it any other way. 😉

          • Hehehe… Nope.

          • Water isssss good.

          • Sapfo

            It keeps thing moist and is great for forplay… Did I give out to much information about myself. Whoops!

          • Sorry… thought that was common knowledge. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            I dont know if it is commen, but I did learn fast 😉

          • Adam Black

            i CANT GET DISqUS TO Load on page again.
            I have no idea what this discussion is

          • Yes, they’re talking about puppies. Big ones and little ones, cute ones and ugly ones.

            Have you tried clearing cache?

          • Adam Black

            No, i think its a browser issue.
            I just dont want to lose my tabs

          • That’s the cache I mean, the browser cache.

          • How do you clear the cache?

          • It should be in your browser preferences. Which browser are you on?

          • firefox

          • Under preferences, then advance and then network, you should see where it says clear cache. Sometimes it needs it more than once and sometimes you do need to reboot the browser after, but not always.

          • SofiaT

            Firefox actually has a “cache clearing button” add-on that you can install on your toolbar. Then you just press it whenever you want and voila! Your cache is cleared. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Evil browser!

          • Adam Black

            i know,
            i closed it and tried to get my back up and it wouldnt even load.

            gotta get snacks, be backs soon

          • Sapfo

            Don´t be away for long. It is kind of spooky when you dont comment for some days. Chris have taken your place on the comment top list.

          • Adam Black

            i dont believe it

          • Sapfo

            Just look for yourself!

          • Adam Black

            Blame Disqus for locking me out of camping 2x in a row

          • Sapfo

            I know, it happens so fast. But he is a fast commentor. But so are you. You will take your rightfull place soon.

            (is it now I should add an evil laugh?)

          • Adam Black

            add the link “Whos laughing now” ( evil dead 2 )

          • Sapfo

            o.O

            Okay, Virgin! Dear Adam come with me and I show you my harem.
            To the left you can see some of the Young Protectors. They are young, just turned 18, but Oh so sweet.
            On our right we have the Teahouse virgins. They know things. More things then you can ever hope to know.
            And straight ahead we have the virgins form all the other pages I taken. Some Spindrift, some TOY. They are cute, but don´t talk very much.
            So which virgin would you like?

          • Adam Black

            you can send me links, but virgins have to broken in for me. They come in two varieties. Fearful ( which is frustrating ) and eager ( which is worse ) becuase they will get hurt on me.
            ( Although my ‘straight” college roommate was eager and didnt get hurt… but he confessed he broke himself in with vegetables. ( I kid you not! )

          • Sapfo

            Well I guess it will have to be a Teahouse virgin then. They at least have the golden Love Craft Magic Fantasy 3000.

            http://teahousecomic.com/comic/?id=113

            http://teahousecomic.com/comic/?id=114

            (“Straight” my ass, or maybe I should say his ass :D)

          • Adam Black

            back

          • Sapfo

            YEAH!
            and I got soup! ^_^

          • Adam Black

            puppies?
            I knew it

          • Sapfo

            My mr Black, I do miss you.
            Puppies and forplay don´t mix! Right?!! o.O

          • Adam Black

            God no!,

          • Sapfo

            I firmly believe that you have been cheating on us. Admit you’ve been to other forums and spoken to other people

          • Adam Black

            just G+

            I wouldnt actually call them people.

            ( Is it cheating if I never actually took off my pants? )

          • Sapfo

            Well, I dont really know. What Did you have fun? It´s not like i ever go into other forums. I would never do that <..>

            (Which Sexual acts can be carried out with your pants on? Many, oh so many!!!)

          • Adam Black

            not really…

            I meant it purely as metaphor, for NOT taking my cock out and rubbing it all over “the other forum”.
            But i was trying to be polite. which never pays does it ;)?

          • Sapfo

            I saw some of thouse forums and Gha! Mad me feel dirty. O_O

          • Adam Black

            be sure and tag me.
            Ill protect you from the creepers

          • Sapfo

            My big brother Adam! I feel safe with you around, even if you are a evil genius.

          • Adam Black

            I think they cancel out on me

          • Why did they pay for a special cock-free AB service or something? Why are they so special?

          • Adam Black

            Theres only so much cream in the can.

            gotta save the love for who can take it…
            whoever, brave soul that is?

          • HA. Too true!

          • Mask? I said I was a sucky criminal, not an ugly one. 😀

          • Sapfo

            How ever said mask have to be ugly. Just look at V for Vendetta. He was a hot dude.

          • Silly mask though. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Yeah, but the actor made up for it big times.

          • Adam Black

            HA!
            Chris. werent you Mr. February in Criminals monthly?
            show off those staples

          • Steven K.

            That and the fact that, with the passage of the Affordable Care Act, we finally passed something very similar to the Nixon health-care plan which he proposed oh-so-long-ago.

          • AGAIN ……… Yayyyyyyyyyy! We rock!

  • BTW… thank you so much to all the folk who contributed to get us today’s page and another one next Weds also. Truly awesome. That made a hard week much better!

  • Oh, I just wanted to through this out there….Christmas falls on Wednesday this year, so I am not sure if/how that is going to effect the update if we tip the bar for that bonus page.

    • SofiaT

      Alex has confirmed that as it stands, updates will go on as usual, possible bonus pages included 🙂

      • KK. I was just looking at the Calender and was like….Oh! Its on Wednesday!

        • SofiaT

          Both Christmas and NYE are a Wed/day!!

          But it looks like we’ll get our fix even on the holidays -as long as we keep tipping over that bar of course :0)

  • Simba Hutchison

    hullo! Hope everyone is safe and warm tonight.

  • Sapfo

    Good morning!
    Been having a great week and am hoping for an even greater camping ^_^

  • Emiko

    Isitupyetisitupyetisitupyet

    • Sapfo

      Nope, and it might be some time today before it is up.
      (read Sofia T:s comment below)

    • Holly

      No it won’t be up for about 4 hours. Alex is delayed

    • SofiaT

      Alex is traveling and he’s been delayed.
      He should update around midnight, California time. 🙂

  • jreed3842

    So I hear Alex will be later than usual in updating the page… Let’s see if I can last the whole night!
    In the meantime I brought the s’mores!

    • Holly

      Um…*surrounded by graham cracker crumbs and covered in melted marshmallows and chocolate* about those…..JREED LIES!

      • jreed3842

        Di–Did you just eat all my s’mores?!

        • Sapfo

          You could just lick her…..

          • Holly

            …. *noises of discomfort*

          • jreed3842

            … Eh… Nah, I’ll just let her keep the s’mores.

          • Holly

            I don’t see what else you can do. You can’t exactly get them back… O_o

        • Holly

          No, I did it a while ago. *innocent.*

          • jreed3842

            *shakes head in shame and disappointment.*

          • Holly

            Yes you should be ashamed. Leaving chocolate out where craving androids can steal it. Bad Jreed. tsk tsk.

          • jreed3842

            What?! Now it’s my fault?! 😛

          • Holly

            ….Yes?

          • jreed3842

            Well fine then! I’ll be sure to not bring any more s’mores to camping. Since SOMEBODY ate them all!

          • Sapfo

            Just guard them better next time

          • *chris shakes head sadly as Sapfo starts victim blaming.*

          • Holly

            see now I just feel bad…

          • Sapfo

            I am so sorry. But I do have some soup, would that help?

            *Oh poor s´mores, to be eaten so young. I am sorry for blaming you*

          • Soup does fix most things.

          • Sapfo

            I do have a lot of soup. Just come and get it (maybe not so good camping food, but it taste so good)

          • Holly

            I AM NEOPOLITAN MILKSHAKES?!

          • *logic circuits are going now…. not good*

          • Holly

            *taps head a few times* I have a Neopolitan Milkshake. XD

          • Who did you steal that from?

          • Holly

            I made it myself. With my own milk and ice cream in my own personal sized blender.

          • *well ethics circuits are reset so that’s good.*

          • Sapfo

            Are you sure, she have been known to trick people before.

          • She shut down for full night maintainence. All good.

          • Holly

            Shall I help you search for the vile criminal who did this?

          • jreed3842

            I would think it’s the one surrounded surrounded by graham cracker crumbs and covered in melted marshmallows and chocolate…

          • Holly

            *smears goo on @4dd5e0aae52ed8020f21154e5ef57056:disqus and washes my face* OH I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

          • jreed3842

            I’M NOT FALLING FOR YOUR TRICKS THIS TIME, HOLLY!

          • Sapfo

            *Lick self* I see no problem with this…..

          • jreed3842

            Well… I guess as long as everyone is happy…

          • Holly

            Tricks? Moi? Surely you jest. I am not a cunning trickster. I am SO not programmed for deceit.

          • That’s a lie right there……… I think you may be hard wired for it!!!! Don’t try your trix here missy!

          • Holly

            I haven’t been camping lately. NO one has given me muffins or anything. I WAS HUNGRY 🙁

            I just didn’t want Jreed to be mad I ate them all…

          • Sapfo

            Sorry, I only have soup. But I got a lot of it ^_^

          • *hands muffin basket of Holly’s favorites*

          • Holly

            *lays there since jreed accidentally powered her off by listening to Chris’ stories about smore banks*

          • *turns Holly back on*

          • Holly

            BWOOP! *power up beginning.*

          • *beep boop beep beep*

            Holly’s appetite has been reset and she is no longer hungry.

          • Holly

            *glaress at Chris and eats Muffins* FANK OO AJ

          • *chris sends in memo to android maintainence… hunger reset is clearly malfunctioning…*

          • Holly

            Forcible shut down reset hunger to empty, not full.

          • *everything is set to reverse… not good*

          • Holly

            STOP MAKING NOTES! If I get sent to the shop I will be sad.

          • Cureall

          • Here Jreed… here’s a key to her smore repository. It’s a little cabinet that all Androids have in their backs. Just use the key to access it and you’ll get all your smores back. Easy peasy…

          • Holly

            IS THAT WHY I AM HUNGRY?! Are people taking snacks out of my compartments!?

          • jreed3842

            Wonderful! Thanks for the tip!

            *goes to get my s’mores back*

          • Holly

            *jreed hits the auto-shutdown button* NOOOO *powers down*

          • jreed3842

            SUCCESS!

    • Yay! S’mores

    • Sapfo
  • Madock345

    I swear this page has been up like five times longer than they usually are. I am so excited to see what happens next I’ve been checking compulsively at least two or three times a day.

  • rgleon9986

    Alright, friends, to pass the time, list your favorite superhero below. If you can’t pick between two (or more), feel free to list a few. If you feel inclined, list why this superhero (or these superheroes) are your favorite!

    I love Superman. He’s such a big part of the American imagination; our very own American legend. There’s even a symphony about him, by Michael Daugherty!

    Batman is Superman’s equal and opposite. Superman is the pinnacle of the superhuman, and Batman is the pinnacle of humanity. He is what humanity can achieve when pushed to its absolute, fullest potential.

    If I need to pick an obscure superhero, then give me “Viking,” from DC Comics. He’s basically an alternate universe rip-off of Thor: he’s the son of the Ice giants, whose full-body tattoos unlock the power of his Ice-giant heritage, and he bears a magic axe carved from black ice by his ancestor, Ymir. For some reason, he just stuck with me as a much more entertaining version of Marvel’s Thor.

    • jreed3842

      I’ve honestly never been a big super hero’s fan… Like I’m not really into the superhero movies and such… But! I am a big fan of the X-Men, and of the X-Men Nightcrawler is my favorite!
      So… yeah…. Nightcrawler is my pick!

    • Sapfo

      Heroes, hmmm?
      This was my childhood heroes.

      Phantom, Cutter and Leetha, Asterix, Modesty Blaise, Agent 9 and Star Singers.

      Maybe not superheros, but I really liked them (and I know I have forgotten some)

    • Simba Hutchison

      Ever since I was little, Rogue has always been my favorite. She is a strong outspoken lady but deals with a sometimes emotionally crippling side effect of her powers. I just think she is interesting and wonderful.

      • rgleon9986

        It’s really interesting to deal with a superhero whose powers truly are quite a mixed bag. They can be very, very valuable, but they certainly come with a huge price.

    • Madock345

      Beast Boy, from Teen Titans. He’s funny, and sweet, but can also be really serious when he needs to be. His powers are incredible, and hinted to be far greater than they appear. I also had/have a huge crush on him.

      Gear, from Static Shock gets an honorable mention as being the first gay hero I ever heard of, and having been a great character even before I knew that.

    • For me it was always the weird and oddly sexy Doctor Stephen Strange, the Sorcerer Supreme. He had great hair with this while stripe through it. He lived in this incredibly cool house in the middle of the city called the Sanctum Sanctorum. He had cool magical stuff like the Cloak of Levitation, the Eye of Agamotto, the Book of the Vishanti and the Orb of Agamotto.

      He was always battling with the Baron Mordo, Nightmare and the Dreaded Dormammu and he was always going to drugged out 1960’s style dimension to battle everyone. He was the epitome of cool. His enemies were cool. OMG just cooooooool. 😀

      • Steven K.

        Oh I know – I was a huge Dr. Strange fan as well! When I was a little kid, after I went through my phase of wanting to be Barnabas Collins, there was a long time where I aspired to be Dr. Strange.

    • Steven K.

      Well, my favorite comic character of all time is Victor Von Doom. Rather fond of Prince Namor, the Submariner as well.

    • Terri Sutton

      My top 2 favourite characters are Rictor and Shatterstar, two C-List or even D-List X-Characters.

      For two minor characters they have had interesting stories; Rictor has managed to find himself on the fringes of the Summer’s family drama (and has a stereotypical Mexican background) and Shatterstar was a 90’s dork age (co-created by Rob Liefield, which should tell you everything) continuity snarl that now has a convoluted temporal snarl backstory which rivals Cyclops’ utterly f*cked-up history.

      • Steven K.

        Didn’t they also have an intimate relationship with one-another at some point? (Even though I think maybe prior and/or subsequently one or the other had involvement with female characters as well?)

        • cotilla

          Rictor was in a relationship with Rahne, but came out as gay. I’d say Shatterstar is pansexual and polyamorous (and that frustrated Rictor), as he also had a (implied) relationship with Layla and has stated that he wants to explore his new romantic feelings. It’s been a while since I’ve seen either of them in the comics (since the thing with the time travel in the Mojoverse).

  • Holly

    I feel like telling you many stories of silly Holly woe to pass the time. I just don’t remember which stories i’ve already told….

  • Soubi

    I AM HERE TO CAMP.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I brought cupcakes!

  • Is Alex there yet?

    • Sapfo

      To early I think! Now what movie should we see? Three hours long….Hmmm!

  • *Stumbles in, in usual hallf-awake state and scans comments*
    Alright.. so page is going to be later today. I could stay up, but I’ll take my chance and get another nap. If the page makes it up before midnight, Alex time, then I’ll have something to read when I get up again 🙂

    I have a god damn mouse in the house walls and it’s been clawing at the inside of a drywall in my living room all night. Every time I’d almost fallen asleep the damn rodent started up again >.>
    MAYBE it will let me get some sleep now.. I’m at the point where I consider letting it eat its way out so I can get it over with, instead of getting up and scaring it away for a while.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Ugh, I hate noises from creatures in the wall! I’m so sorry you have to deal with that.

    • Sapfo

      Oh it was a long time ago I heard mouse in the walls. But I am thinking of a nap myself right now.

      BTW liked Thor 2

      • This is the first time I have a mouse (that I know of), but it’s been coming and going over a few weeks. Just as I thought it was either dead or had left, it returned again. This is the 3rd time in a 5-6 weeks period it does this, showing up when outside weather turns bad and stick around for days trying to eat its way through my wall 🙁

        • Sapfo

          I grow up in a house with mouses. They do it like that, come and go. But Never had any of them gotten through the wall. They are stubborn little things.

          • I only have drywalls and/or wood panel walls a couple of places, so it moves freely behind that. If it keeps trying, I’m sure it will make it all the way through one day. It’s just driving me crazy with the loud scratching before that xD

          • Sapfo

            Oh Poor Danish, driven mad by small rodent. XD

            Call a exterminator?

          • Maybe I’ll call, if it continues. Otherwise, if it actually comes in, I’ll try and catch it and release it away from here. I don’t mind mice, i just don’t want them in my walls, and even less in my rooms 🙂

          • Sapfo

            I dont think it will get in. But there are some “nice” traps that do not harm them

          • Steven K.

            EXACTLY! 🙂

    • I hate that! I’ve had that, kept banging on the wall, but it wasn’t afraid. grumble.

      • Yeah, I knock on the wall and it goes away for a while, and it’s mostly gone all day, but as soon as the house goes silent and dark it start again. It’s ruining my sleep *grr*

        • Sapfo

          Most likely it sleeps during the day.

        • Rotten little creatures. 🙁

          • Adam Black

            thats what cats are for

          • We had cats that would just look at the mice, do absolutely nothing. But they would bring in bunnies. I guess that made them big game hunters. Mice were for wimps and Jack Russell Terriers.

          • Adam Black

            Ive caught mine playing “Mouse hockey” in the street

          • If that’s a euphemism I can’t imagine for what?

          • Adam Black

            in this case, no.
            They were actually at opposite corners of a cul-de-sac, playing mouse hockey.

            Sadlyu this was before I had an electronic camara.

          • Some do play with them. We did have one cat that would eat them. She would leave us the tail.

          • Adam Black

            they play with them till they break

          • Ours either ate them or left them be. The Russells liked to break them.

    • Steven K.

      I so hate it when that happens. Sometimes I’ll get a little fieldmouse in and it will get caught in a trap – then I feel kinda sorry for the little thing cuz it’s kinda cute-ish, but – IT’S MY HOUSE, NOT THE MOUSE’S, AND IT SHOULDN’T BE INSIDE MY HOUSE IF IT DOESN’T WANT TROUBLE.

      • Sapfo

        Poor little mouse, just wanted to be close to you 😉

        Hope you use humatrapps for to capture and release

        • Sabertooth tigers

          Edit: But then you need something to eat that…

          • Sapfo

            O.O

  • Holly

    Well Jreed’s forced shut down of my systems has caused some systems errors. So I will need to reboot my systems to ensure all programs are running properly, there are no glitches, and i have no viruses. This will take several hours.

    (Holly is super tired and it is nearly an hour past her new bedtime. She is going off to the land of sleep and will see the new page when she awakes. She does not work Saturday so she might be able to camp Friday. For now, BED. Night all.)

    • Sapfo

      Night Holly, sleep well and get up in time for work ^_^

      The virgin is MINE!! MUAHAHAHAHA!

      • Holly

        No work tomorrow. It’s my day off. But it’s almost 1:30am here so I’m sleepy now. Since I normally get up at 8am. NIGHT SAPFO.

        • Sapfo

          Thats good! Some day of to sleep and get the enegi.

        • Night, Holly.

      • Holly

        I am not going to be moan you getting the virgin when it happened hours after I was asleep. XP

        • Sapfo

          Thats a good Holly!
          Do you want to play with him? ^_^

          • Holly

            Now however would I do that?!

    • Night Holly!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Sleep well!

    • jreed3842

      Well… Now we’ve learned to not steal all my s’mores! 😛

    • Night kiddo… be well.

  • So.. anyway, I’m off again to try and get an hour or two’s nap.

    If you need anything to do while waiting for the page, The Fox Sister has updated with a new page tonight (for the readers of that comic). Updated have moved to tuesdays now btw.

    If you don’t know the comic, you should check it out. It’s not a BL comic, but a really awesome dark fantasy/horror-ish comic with a female leading character and a good plot. A collaboration work between two really awesome artists, who’s also working on other individual webcomics.

    The Fox Sister has been on more than one ‘what to read online’ list.
    http://thefoxsister.com/archive.php

    • silibub

      Ah! CC of Teahouse works on this comic, right? I remember reading it in the early stages of chapter one, but then it kind of fell off my radar — thanks for the reminder! I’m gonna go catch up.

      • Sapfo

        Yes, she is part of Emirain with E.

      • You should be good I hear Alex is flying over Abu Dhabi right now…..

        • silibub

          Abu Dhabi or friggin’…Narnia or whatever! I hope his flight goes smoothly. And in any case the page probably won’t be up until past 2 AM my time.

          • Sapfo

            What time is it now at your place?

          • silibub

            Almost 1 AM! I’m in the Midwest, so Central Time.

          • Sapfo

            Okej. Thank you

          • silibub

            What time is it where you are?

          • Sapfo

            Almost 8 am.
            Edit: I got up about 5 am for this XD

          • silibub

            Ha, wow, a big gap. So you got up early to camp!

          • Sapfo

            About 5 am. But I get to sleep before. so its okay

          • silibub

            All part of the dedicated fan life – but I get to sleep in a bit tomorrow too, so I’m not gonna suffer.

          • Sapfo

            Im just glad I dont work today. So I can do some more sleeping later on.

          • SofiaT

            “Big gap?”

            It’s 6pm of Wednesday for me 😛

          • silibub

            You’re making my head spin!

          • SofiaT

            I’m 19 hours ahead of Alex’s time. But because that makes my head spin too, I like to think of it as being 5 hours behind… on the next day! 😛

          • silibub

            *shakes head* Time is weird.

          • Ahahahah… I know I think I’m midnight. I’m with you it could be Oz… just get over that desert! NOW!

          • silibub

            We need a teleporter up in this piece

          • Damn fantasy with no decent teleporter.

      • Yes, CC has made the script and is the one uploading the page with the final details. It’s her comicand she hired Jayd (from Sfeer Theory) to do all the art.

    • very cool

      • Sapfo

        You only follow TYP? But there are so many more out there. It is a big world.
        (or maybe you do, but just dont tell us)

        • No I’m catching up with tons of stuff because of this site. I save all the rec’s. I’m not sure I have a clue what’s going on in the teahouse… everyone seems grumpy. Humon makes me laugh all the time. I’m getting there. I have jillion saved though.

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Dunno if this idea has cropped up already in the comments so far, but on the bus on the way home it occurred to me that if Kyle’s had an hour to calm down, he might be able to give a semi-calm and coherent summary of what happened. And then when Spooky hears that the Priestess is involved he loses that I’m-so-laid-back look for a grim!and-determined!Spooky (maybe even a looses-his-sh!t!Spooky).

    No particular animus towards Spooks. It’s just that it might be interesting to see where his threshold for ‘this is a tough problems’ might be.

    Meanwhile, I’m making a cheesecake for a farewell party at work on Friday, and thanks to the wonders of hypberole-on-the-internet, I have made a virtual clone (or several). Here, it’s lemon-passionfruit.

    • An up-vote for the Spooks in any fashion you can manage it and congrats on the very lofty sounding cheesecake.

  • Sapfo

    One nap done. Now I am ready to do some camping again!

    • That was a quick nap!

      • Sapfo is very efficient.

        • It appears so!

          • Sapfo

            Sleeping on call at work. must be able to wake up in 2 seconds 😉

          • True, you medical types are amazing that way. 🙂

            Edit: Well, medical folks are amazing anyway!

          • Sapfo

            Thank you! But sometimes I just so confused when I wake up I do dume things. Like trying to throw the mobil into the wall 😉

          • Just no napping with needles or anything like that.

          • Sapfo

            Most napping at work are done with the phone in hand and one eye on the clock.

          • I suppose it could be worse, you could throwing punches. Or have you done that?

          • Sapfo

            No, but one time I almost ran into a wall after getting to my feet. XD

          • Well that’s understandable. 🙂 I’m certain I’ve done that. XD

        • Sapfo

          Not really. I almost threw my mobil across the room when it woke me up

      • Sapfo

        Maybe I should have gone for an hour, but I did not want to miss to much of the camping. Will take one more nap after campings done.

        • Can’t miss camping. Camping all that is good in this world. 😀

          • Adam Black

            gotta get milk.
            save mea seat at the new page

          • Sapfo

            Make room for Adam. The fire is warm and the company friendly. ^_^

          • Adam Black

            thnks
            I cant believe its this late….

          • I know I was going to go to sleep but camping keeps getting me closer and closer to ….. (wipes drool) …… a new page.

          • Sapfo

            I bet hubby is doing the sleeping for both of you 😉

          • Adam Black

            fell alseep

          • Gotcha!!

          • Need a cereal fix?

          • Adam Black

            Milk and free sandwiches

          • Ahhhhh wise!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I have some cupcakes if anybody wants one.

          • Gimme! 😀

          • stickfigurefairytales

            *hands you a cupcake*

          • Yummy yummy yummy. *doing cupcake dance* Thanks!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            You’re welcome! 🙂

          • Adam Black

            that will go good with the ben and jerrys

  • Welcome!

    • VileTybalt

      Thanks man, I’ve been wanting to get in on the conversation for a couple of weeks now, but I’m never sure what to say. Plus I have a tendency to ramble, hah. Fortunately, the readership here seems uber-friendly, so I just went for it.

      • The TYP fandom is very friendly! That’s why I took the plunge to start commenting so many months ago.

        • Just be careful. The Admiral throws a mean muffin.

        • VileTybalt

          That’s encouraging then. To be honest, I don’t really do much in terms of chat rooms, blogs, or any other type of online community (excluding a little online dating, which I won’t go into). Though some of my friends have made some really cool connections through online groups so I’ve always thought about trying it. I just could never find a community that seemed open enough. So, I guess I’m making the plunge too 😀

          • I know what you mean. I’m usually pretty quite on most places I visit, but this one pulled me in. And hasn’t let go. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            There’s a reason why this is the only webcomic I comment on too 🙂

            Debates can become heated at times but we all play nice and there’s an overall feeling of respect, which is rather rare for a web community.

          • *Nods*

          • She’s right Alex, Sofia and AJ are the best. It’s good people here. Definitely be welcome. Just remember to talk to David Rose. He’s very wise. 😛

          • SofiaT

            Get away you!

            Don’t listen to him @viletybalt:disqus! *covers Tybalt’s ears*

          • *whistles innocently*

            Just step over here and I’ll set you on the path to TYP righteousness….

            Heavenly music begins to play and the holy choir kicks in big on the fourth bar

          • VileTybalt

            It looks like I’m gonna need to polish up on my speed banter. In the time it takes me to ramble out a paragraph or two reply, all hell is breaking loose with submarines and muffins and pitchforks….

          • SofiaT

            Ah, that’s just banter between long-time friends. Well, internet long-time friends… which means that in a week or so you’ll be up to speed 😉

        • SofiaT

          *whispers* Should we recruit him on the ship -um, I mean “submarine”- Redilator before Team Pitchfork gets their hands on him or should we play nice? *looks around for @David Rose nervously*

          • Good of the community…. Mmmmmmmmmmm

          • SofiaT

            *whistles innocently*

          • HA!

          • *whispers* I think he may be ready for the submarine life. He hasn’t mentioned any pitchforks yet.

          • He does have the best avatar ever!

          • SofiaT

            David? Yes, he does. I can’t even deny that.

            But we have the welcome buckets!! And they’re full with muffins!

          • And has vibranium umbrellas with hidden swords and monogrammed life jackets.

          • Wait! I didn’t get any of that. Dirty lies. 😛

          • SofiaT

            We just came up with the vibranium umbrellas a couple of weeks ago. If we had thought of it sooner we would have built the Redilator from vibranium too.

            The life jackets have been around for ages!

          • Since the beginning we’ve had life jackets. We had to upgrade the umbrellas. The buckets are probably next. Oh wait, were those being called in to make the submarine?

          • SofiaT

            The buckets? We started with the buckets, the life jackets came next. We upgraded the umbrellas almost immediately so lets just say they were made of vibranium from the beginning.

            I haven’t figured out how the submarine works yet, I’m still on deck spitting water.

          • Oh right. Buckets then lifejackets.

            Hiraku is in charge of the submarine. I think we’re still near the surface, Feverfew gets claustrophobic.

          • Feverfew_M

            True! Still clinging to the periscope. 😀

          • Just keep an eye out for those pitchforks!

          • Feverfew_M

            Will do! Very good thing we’re not in a rubber boat, now that I think about it…

          • Very very good thing.

          • *side eyes*

          • Don’t even think about it, Mister! *tapping rolled newspaper against palm*

          • So is this little thing the plug that holds all the air in?

            What if I pull it……. just a tiny bit? 😀

          • It shoots poison. :{D

          • Hikaru Takemori

            And as such I think we need to upgrade out emergancy gear. Life jackets are nice and all but pretty useless if you run out of air before you hit the surface so I’m thinking of investing in breathing gear for everbody on board(includeing the neopren suits designed to look like uniforms).

          • SofiaT

            …Monogrammed of course?

          • Hikaru Takemori

            If neopren suits can be monogrammed, why not?

          • I’m sure there’s away to get such things personalized

          • I thought MotorD said this was a wreck recovery… It’s sounding very Princess Cruisy to me. *snort*

          • Hikaru Takemori

            That only because we lost communication with the island he was on while converting the Redilator into the submarine and the excess wood drifted to the shores.

          • Oooh, good thinking!

          • Nah, you were just absent that day. :{D

          • Heinous bribery!!!!!

            Ah hell it worked on me.

          • We shall track him down!

          • -_-

          • Sapfo

            Have not seen him for some time.

      • SofiaT

        Did you read Artifice btw or did you come straight here? Because I’d put that on the “to read” list if you haven’t already 🙂

        Also, if you subscribe to receive more comics, you’ll get the 2 chapters of “Tough” on your email. Great comic, currently on hiatus but I hope it will be continued one day.

        • VileTybalt

          This was the first comic I started reading online, but since then I’ve read a bunch of them including Artifice, which I also really enjoyed. I actually only found this, because I’d just finished reading Hero by Perry Moore. And I was looking for more gay, superhero-themed stories. Prior to reading this, I kinda thought that Yaoi was just glorified porn or FanFic taken to the level of obsession.

          So far, my favorites are TYP and Grayscale (I have kind of an obsession with dragons). But Grayscale hasn’t updated in over a month, so I’ve been following this every week.

          I haven’t subscribed yet, but I’m gonna.

          • SofiaT

            I’d say go for the email notification. That’s what I’ve chosen. Not that I need it anymore, I’m here daily 😀

            Most people here just hang around whenever they can anyway, the discussion is always on, not only on update days.

          • Somewhere down below I have posted a list of comics I enjoy.

          • VileTybalt

            Thanks for the recs! I found your comment and started checking out a few of the links. They look pretty cool. Up til recently, the only comic I ever read online was XKCD

          • Yeah, whenever I have huge amounts of free time, the list grows. I actually have quite a few more misc that I haven’t read in a long time and need to reread before they are added to that list. (aka I have forgotten what they are about, but I must have liked them otherwise I would not have bookmarked the pages.)

          • That upvote is worth 10,000. I had to go down like 4 billion pages to find it and then it took forever to save like a million links and you described them.

            You awesomeness overflows!

          • Well like I said, I really should do a more formal write up description of them…probably end up in my LJ…..and then any time someone asks I can just link to that page.

            I have a lot on my to do list. I still need to finish typing up Athora’s journal from that D&D Campaign. I miss playing her. *cries*

          • Subscribing make you instantly more awesome. Fact. 😀

          • Sapfo

            But I dont subscrib o.o
            I only check in every hour on the hour. Even in my sleep.

          • You already too awesome. I don’t think you can get much more.

          • Sapfo

            Oh, thank you!
            Your awesome to! Meh!

  • SofiaT

    Hi Tybalt! (I’d rather not call you “vile” :p )

    Welcome to the YP fandom! Alex usually updates around this time, or even a bit earlier, but today he’s on the road and has experienced some delays, so he’s let us know that the update will be around midnight, California time (so if my calculations are correct, in about 2 hours?).

    Now, if you don’t have to wake up early, grab some tea and s’mores and come enjoy camping with us! 😀

    • cotilla

      Curses, in two hours I’ll be in class… I’ll have to wait for recess to read the page!

      • SofiaT

        I’d tell you to hide your phone under the desk but I don’t want to be considered bad influence…

      • Cotilla, read Sofia’s post again… she’s a MOD so she can’t openly advocate sneaking a look at a page in class because that would be wrong, but she may have heard of a few tricks that would good to know.

        Erm… just sayin’

        • SofiaT

          My responsibility is towards this community. I have made no promise to be morally upright outside of it 😛

    • Holly took the smores with her. Are you saying you have a secret stash?

      • SofiaT

        No, it’s why I’m telling him to bring his own 😛

  • SofiaT

    Great, good to have you joing the group!

    And I feel the same way about Duncan -I want to slap him and hug him all at the same time. 😛

    Just one thing. If you can verify your email with Disqus, your comments will be published immediately. Right now me or AJ, the other friendly neighbourhood Mod, have to approve them first, that’s why they’re delayed. 🙂

    • VileTybalt

      Oops, thanks for reminding me. I remember seeing that mentioned to someone else, but it totally slipped my mind. I’m all verified now.

      And totally, Duncan is such an aggravating character like that. He makes you wanna scream at him “What’s your problem?!” But that’s why this is such a great comic. It takes a lot of talent to create characters that evoke such strong emotions.

  • Did I miss it? :>

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Nope!

      • It hasn’t been posted yet? :o!

        • Welcome to the land of PAIN!

          Well pain and muffins and smores and … well you get it.

          Sillibub says Adam is over Narnia just now so we’re all just waiting.

    • It’s going to be late today.

      • Ooooh! I may not be able to join in the camping fun, then. 🙁

        • I’m hoping in another hour…ish. There were delays in Alex’s travel.

          • Silly family travels and whatnot. That’s fine. I was hoping to see it before I went to sleep

          • I know! Right? Alex with those warped family priorities. Talk to him won’t you?

          • Sapfo

            But I thought he was our family.

          • SofiaT

            Did you write that with a trembling lip?

          • I read it with one

          • SofiaT

            Me too 😀

          • Sapfo

            Yes, oh yes. Hug me sister Sofia!

          • SofiaT

            *hugs sister in Sweden*

          • Sapfo

            It is kind of getting a hug from both Greek and australia at the same time ^_^

          • SofiaT

            I’m a citizen of the world, what can I say 😉

          • Sapfo

            The best kind of sister there is <3

          • I at first read that as hugs Sister Sweden. I think I’ve read too much SatW

          • SofiaT

            😛

          • Sapfo

            Me to XD

          • I don’t think we’ve seen Sister Greece yet. 😀

          • Sapfo

            No but we have seen sister Australia when she became princess of denmark.

          • SofiaT

            I like Brother Australia. Surfing on a wombat 😀

            And I love how USA, Australia and Canada all have to call England “dad”. 😛

          • Sapfo

            I like that to. One of my fav where with all of them like a family. So cute ^_^

          • I loved how surfing on a wombat instantly made him super cool.

          • Of course it made him super cool. That’s super cool!

          • SofiaT

            He was super cool before that 😀

          • Ahahahahaha…. exactly what my friend in Melbourne says… although it’s also summer which means the super giant spiders are out……..

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Stop bellydancing with birds, Norway! It’s inhumane!

          • SofiaT

            You’ve seen brother Greece though. He’s the one with the mustache.

          • Yup. Is that legit? 😀

          • SofiaT

            No. I think the last time men in Greece had mustaches was in the 70s.

          • XD

            Paris and her little dog haven’t been seen for a while in these here parts. Which I am thankful for.

          • But THOSE were some mustaches!

          • HA!! I thought you were writing to both of us and I was going to say how did you know???

          • *sniffles*

          • *chris gets out extra crying towels early*

        • SofiaT

          Should be up in about half an hour or so if you wanna wait?

          Edit: make that one hour to be on the safe side, don’t want you to miss on sleep because of me.

          • *chris set’s timer and stares at it*

          • I have a drug test for my promotion tomorrow, so I have to get up early. The good thing, its a super easy test to pass 😛

          • Sapfo

            Shoes did the work then?

          • They totally did 😛 lol
            Nah, they said I had improved a lot.

          • Sapfo

            Thats even better. I would rather have promotion for my abilety the for my shoes.

          • lmao yeah me too

          • Why? Who’s urine are you using?

          • :o! Sir, I am offended that you would think that I do drugs!

            (I have been expecting a test so haven’t touched anything in almost two years)

          • Goodonya!

            Edit: was also seriously teasing!

          • And even when I did, it was just weed. 🙂 😉

          • Just don’t eat any poppy seeds!

          • why?

          • Sapfo

            Is that not just an urban legend?

          • VileTybalt

            Mythbusters proved that poppy seeds will create a false positive on a drug test

          • Sapfo

            It do!?!
            Thats good to know

          • THANKS GOOD TO KNOW. Don’t do drugs but that would be a shock.

          • SofiaT

            Damn, and I love lemon and poppy seeds muffins…

          • Sapfo

            Do you have to do any drug test. If not, then do keep on eating them.

          • SofiaT

            Nah, we don’t have to do things Iike that where I work.

            We only have to go through police and background check. Although we’re going through accreditation at the moment so I don’t know what other rules might start getting in place.

            But it would be ironic, I’ve never done any drugs and have never even put a normal cigarette in my mouth. Being found as positive on a drug test would give me a heart attack.

          • Sapfo

            That would be a heart attack for me to. Dont like that stuff, have seen to many drug injuried people to even think about it.

          • SofiaT

            I don’t even drink alcohol.
            That’s related to a childhood trauma but I don’t feel like explaining that to everyone who sees me drink S.Pelegrino at bars and tries to convince me to have a cocktail, so going out has become a bit of a nuisance.

            One of the very few things I don’t like about the Land of Oz, it’s a nation with a strong drinking culture.

          • Sapfo

            Not drinking is a hard thing. I try to be the driver most of the time.

            (I do drink but not much)

          • I can speak Australian from working in Sydney years ago.

            Beer = Bia

          • I think they’ve changed the levels on the test to accommodate that type of thing.

          • Now we’ll see Sofia rushed to the hospital suspected of heroin dose yelling, “NOOOOO you don’t understand, I’m sober. The Admiral said….” and then realizing how high that sounds…………

          • 😛

          • VileTybalt

            When applying for my last job, I had to take a drug test. Ironically, I think I was probably the only person who’d never done drugs, and yet I was the only one who failed the drug test. Though in my case it was my medication that did it. I needs to take my Adderall or I can’t focu…. oooooh, squirrel!!!

          • SofiaT

            But you got the job, right?

          • VileTybalt

            Yeah, totally. I just had to show them my prescription info. It turned out to be a pretty awesome job though. I was a “facilitator” at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Plus, like I said, all my coworkers were a bunch of stoners and tons of fun to be around.

          • Feverfew_M

            No surprise, poppy seeds do contain opioids, afters all. But the content can be controlled by processing.

          • Yay! for Mythbusters.

        • I keep telling everyone there needs to be a special alarm service. Kinda like what Kyle just used for when a new page comes out!

          • That would be nice

          • VileTybalt

            For some reason this idea reminds me of Harry Potter, when Hermione comes up with a way to tell everyone when Dumbledore’s Army is meeting. Though personally I might prefer the badass tattoo over a fake coin. I think a Young Protectors tattoo that told you when the new page was uploaded would be pretty freakin awesome!

    • Kinzie chan!!!!!! You made it!!!

      • I am here! However briefly 🙂

        • I guess that means no bf with you tonight?

          • Nope. I went to the gym right after work and he was OUT by the time I got home. Snoring.

          • wow

          • Meh. I’m not surprised

          • You youngsters with your glamorous life! 😀

          • I know. We’re such partiers… I didn’t spell that right… I’m tired, leamme alone

  • Sapfo

    Oooooh! I eaten so much soup, I can barely move any more. Which is good, I dont need to move ontil the new page is up.
    (Unles my blader is evil)

  • Feverfew_M

    Me, a few minutes ago: Huh, no new page? Let’s see what the campers are doing. Huh, no campers?

    *seconds tick by*

    Oops comments are sorted by oldest! *headdesk* 😀
    Good thing I dont really have time for camping anyway, seems I’m not awake enough, yet…

    • Sapfo

      LOL Been there done that!

    • I kept pressing the wrong button on my phone today while trying to hang up. 😐

      • I have an iPhone. Sometimes if my fingers are dry I touch the END button and nothing happens!!!!!

        • I have a crappy LG Neon. There are actual buttons for end. I kept hitting back and speaker.

  • Small comment then I have to go to bed. Keep having to work late, sorry haven’t been able to join all you wonderful folks:

    Blue tinged tear courses down fine young cheek
    Red hair is still the fire after flames have gone out
    Slow progress aches with sadness
    Blue tear fades to white
    Little Hero trembles
    Waiting

  • Well… I am tempted to stay up a few more minutes… Alex >_< I have to sleeeeeeeeeep

    • You can do it!!!!!!!

      • *struggles to keep eyes open*
        *glances next to me*
        But he’s snoring… so peaceful… wants snuggles… hmmmm

  • Ok, nope. Can’t do it. I am falling sleep on my computer. Good night all.
    Safe travels, Alex. I hope the new page is amazing. >_<

  • I hate to say this, I might have to join Kinzie in leaving. I am getting to that part of tired where my head starts to hurt.

    • Sapfo

      No, not you to.
      Good Night Doki!

    • VileTybalt

      Good night! Thanks again for your recommendations. It was great getting to “meet” you.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Goodnight! Sleep well!

    • Night Doki!

    • Feverfew_M

      And a good night to you, too. Give your poor head a rest.

  • Jena

    Late posting today eh? It’s 1am here and usually its posted by 11pm my time. What’s the hold up Alex!?!? haha just kidding. I’m sure it will be worth the wait. 🙂

    • Alex is on his way traveling home, so page wouldn’t be up until sometimes after midnight his time – which is now and forward 🙂

      • Jena

        I shall stay up a little bit longer then. 🙂

  • Sapfo

    And then suddenly everyone just went into hidding? Do that mean I have to seek?

    • Just check Satw. New page up.

      • Sapfo

        No one told me ;_;

        • 🙁

          I’m obsessive. I check too often.

          • Jena

            what is Satw?

          • Sapfo

            Scandinavia and the world. A really good comic

            http://satwcomic.com/

          • Jena

            I’ll have to put it on my list of comics to check out then 🙂

          • Sapfo

            You do that 🙂

          • It’s very very funny. It’s very addictive.

            http://satwcomic.com/

          • Sapfo

            That was a good Satw.

            Another story is that a man escaped from prison, went to the dentist and then came back again. It was in the newspaper last week. XD

          • LOL! You guys do prison right it seems.

          • SofiaT

            It’s Scandinavia. They do bloody everything right!

          • That’s why I want to move there!

          • Sapfo

            So you can break the law? o.O

          • No, cause you guys seem to do everything right. XD

          • Believe me, it’s not perfect. We have our downsides too, but all in all I’m very happy to live where I do.

          • SofiaT

            Well, apparently the best place in the world to have a uterus is Iceland.

            And Scandinavian guys are hot. That’s good enough reason for me to move over there! >:D

          • Yeah, it’s that way here. There’s just a lot of room for improvement. 😐

          • Sapfo

            Danish is right. But in all of the world, I really do like living here.

          • I’d just like to see some of what works there implemented here.

            Although Scandinavian men are quite attractive. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            He got his sentence extended by a day. Poor guy!

            So its not perfect XD

          • :D. But he came back! But then again if he left to go to the dentist, that might need to be something to fix in the system.

          • Sapfo

            Yet. If one breaks out of prison to go to the dentist then something is wrong.

          • That’s true.

        • It’s even about ‘you’, Sweden 😉

          • Sapfo

            It was a great one XD
            Look at my comment below XD

  • I know camping is fully voluntary, but 5mins ago I really hated my alarm clock xD

    • I always hate my alarm clock. I can’t sleep if it’s set. 😐

      • Sapfo

        Same here, even on my of days I set it

        • I gained a phobia of mine back in HS. I just…I just can’t…

          • Sapfo

            HS?

          • High School. If I woke up before it or was having trouble sleeping that thing would just torment me.

          • Sapfo

            Bad clock. Well you are not in HS anymore, but then again neither am I. Still makes me set it every day.

          • I’m lucky that I work from home, but then again I have two dogs that won’t let me sleep too long. 🙂

          • Oh those halcyon trouble free days of HS. A popular cheerleader with a perfect peaches and cream complexion turns in her A+ Sociology exam and…..

          • Who’s a cheerleader?

          • Sapfo

            *please say chris, please say chris*

          • That’s what I was going to ask. 🙂

          • I am so outclassed with you two… ahahahahaa…

          • 😀

          • Actually in those days I was a water polo jock hoping no one would notice I was seriously gay… then I went to college and hoped everyone would notice I was seriously gay.

          • You of course. I remember because you wouldn’t talk to me because I was too geeky…….. 😛

            Edit: Oh, and that gay thing.

          • Sapfo

            AJ is a cheerleader and Chris is a geek….But what am I then? o.O

          • You must be remembering wrong. I was never a cheerleader. To this day I hate Toyota 4Runners because all of them drove them.

            I was one of the unseens.

      • I’m WAY to good to either turn it off or reset the time (you’d think that takes an awake mind) while still being half asleep. Even if the clock is placed so I have to get up to do it.
        It’s the closest I come to sleep walking. I can get up, reset the time for a little while later and then go back to sleep. When I wake up later I either have a vague memory of doing it, or none what so ever.
        I’ve resolved to only setting the alarm on my phone. I can do it on that too, but most often I just keep pressing the snooze button so I never really fall fully asleep again until I’m up.

        • Sapfo

          XD

          I have to clocks. an ordinary alarm clock and one that I call the kille.raising clock. If not that wakes me up I am more dead than alive.

          • I’ve managed to sleep from one of those o_o
            Oki I was really tired and felt sick, but I was shocked when I woke up (7 hours late) to see that the timer was on, but it must have sounded enough times to have decided that it would wait 12 hours to do it again xD

        • I’m impressed. So basically you can camp… while asleep!

          • *lol* It’s fells like it sometimes 😉 I’m not a faster ‘waker’ (is that a word?) so when I wake up and go to turn on the computer, I don’t feel fully awake yet when I sit down.
            That why last page was just as effective as cold water. I had literally just sat down and loaded the tab the moment Alex uploaded the page, and it was up and no comments. Talk about adrenaline boost :-p

    • Sapfo

      You are not alone in this, I almost thew mine into the wall.

      • I want to enjoy the wednesday camping while I still can. Probably in around 5-8 weeks I’ll have to start leaving campings early on week-days if page is not up by 6.25am my time. To catch a bus for a 13 weeks course.
        This will probably influence SF updates too – but luckily not TH.

        • Sapfo

          I want to downvote that ;_;
          But at the end of January I will start a new job. And that means the same for me D:

          • Mean jobs, ruining out fun xD

          • Sapfo

            Jupp, but it pays better.

          • I want to down-vote all things that interfere with my camping… so consider yourselves down-voted, but in the future.

          • Sapfo

            Thank you. Camping is importent and that is why I getting one of thoues, what do you call them phone with a brain?

    • Jena

      Alarm clocks are the worst

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Sadly, I think I need to head off to bed, too. Goodnight everybody!

    • Sapfo

      And there goes one more ;_;
      Good night

    • Night!

  • jreed3842

    It’s … quiet.
    How many other campers are still holding out? I fear I will succumb to the power of sleep before I get to see the update.

    • Jena

      I’m slowly losing the battle to sleep as well.

    • Sapfo

      MEEEE!

    • dereule101

      I think I’m heading to bed now….

      • Sapfo

        Thats the bad part about a late page. Everyone just giving up. There is the fighting spirit?!
        Good night Dereule

        • dereule101

          Well, I’m sure I’ll enjoy the new page whether it’s up five minutes or five hours from now. 🙂 night!

          • SofiaT

            Night Dereule! *waves*

      • Night!

    • Still here.

    • I’m heeeeeeere he says just holding on.

    • silibub

      I’m still up, just too sleepy to say anything interesting. I’ll get an adrenaline rush when the page hits!

      • True that.

      • Oh hi… you are conveniently here… erm… 19hrs ago… but the point is, I was randomly pottering about Alex’s fanart page and you have a rockin’ Sircea in there… with that floating about in your brain I’m impressed you can focus enough to post at all. LOL. Nice work. 😀

    • VileTybalt

      It’s my first time camping so I am determined to see it through!

      • Jena

        me too!!! except im lacking the determination part

        • VileTybalt

          Well, I won’t lie. I’m also playing Xbox, which helps a lot. Anything to keep my brain alert.

          • Elder Scrolls. You have taste!

          • VileTybalt

            Haha, thanks. They had a Black Friday sale on all the DLC for Skyrim so I couldn’t resist.

          • I lost serious time to Skyrim… and oblivion before it

          • VileTybalt

            I’ve actually been playing Oblivion recently as well. And I know exactly what you mean. I think I clocked like 70 hours on each of those, plus about the same on Dragon Age. I feel like my brain should just be a big pile of mush considering how much time I’ve spent in front of the tv.

          • Oh I think we share the mush… I think I Oblivioned one character through every possible story line until the game locked up… thank goodness I took a break and let them get Skyrim up. LOL. Insane. I was so tired by the time I hit the final battle in Dragon Age I kinda pooped out. Yep, I wimped. Hmmmm… might be time to check it out again… I have the new one??? 😀

          • VileTybalt

            I totally almost did the same with the final boss of Dragon Age. Luckily my character was a rogue, so I just spammed the ballistas like crazy until I beat it. lol. I took it up again recently after buying the ultimate edition with Awakening and all of the DLC.

            Do you play Dark Souls? (aka the ultimate rage quit game) I just finished it, finally! That game took a huge chunk of time as well, but unlike Elder Scrolls or Dragon Age it wasn’t so much about the hugeness of the game as it was about how difficult it was. Some of the bosses took an hour or more to beat. And yet I’m still excited for Dark Souls 2. Gamers must be masochists. 😛

          • Masochists… indeed.

            I’m very scattershot. Yes, ran out of gas to figure out the final boss on Dragon Age. I have nothing to brag about. I was in Dante’s Inferno and yes (I admit it) there was one spot I fricking could NOT get past… yep internet help. It was either that or drop the game. I was deep into Skyrim when work got busy, but I could get back into it. LOTS left to do.

            Nope never picked up Dark Souls… sounds good I didn’t now. LOL. The super high coordination games just eff with my head and I rage quit fast.

            Glad I’m not alone in random insanity. Take care.

          • Sapfo

            No, no and no. Have not tried any of them.

          • Jena

            Ooooo what Xbox game?!?

          • VileTybalt

            I’ve been playing Oblivion, Skyrim and Dark Souls in random streaks, but at the moment I’m actually just playing some castle crashers, because it’s 2:30am here and I can’t muster enough focus to play anything too intense,

          • Jena

            nice selection! I’ve been obsessively playing the Gears series. Can’t get enough of them

    • Saxon_Brenton

      [shrugs] It’s only early evening in Sydney, so I can pretty much guarantee that Sophia and myself are good for several more hours.

    • arobynbird

      if I had no finals due this week I be up and chatty as is I’m off to bed so I can write coherent papers. Stupid Shakespeare.

    • YOU CAN DO IT! WHO NEEDS SLEEP!

      • jreed3842

        *cue over dramatic monologue* I…. I cannot do it.
        I thought I could, but sleep’s strength is far too much for me to handle.
        I must bid you all farewell… I lend the rest of my strength to you, my fellow campers…
        When you do manage to make it to the end of the tunnel, and you see the newly updated page… I want you to think of me and think “Ah… Jreed3842 would have loved this.”
        Goodbye… my fellow campers…. I’m…. I’m sorry I let you down.

        • It’s up!

        • VileTybalt

          As long as there are still people willing to forego hours of sleep in order to read a single page of a comice book the minute it comes out, your legacy will live on. Never forget!

          • SofiaT

            Never give up. Never surrender.

          • VileTybalt

            We are Sparta… um, I mean… The Young Protectors fandom! (not quite as intimidating)

          • Sapfo

            Galaxy quest XD

  • Jena

    anyone know any fun camping games? We could play the story telling game where everyone adds one word to the story lol

  • Just got back from many hours of travel to my page baking oven. Mmm. Freshly baked page, warming in the oven…

    Not long now campers! 🙂

    • SofiaT

      Welcome home Alex!

    • Yay! Welcome home!

    • Sapfo

      It him(… what´s his name?) ALEX. I missed you. ^_^

    • Jena

      Glad you made it safely 🙂

    • Of course you posted this right after I determined to sleep.
      Sneaky, Alex!
      I’m glad you made it back safely. 🙂

  • SofiaT
  • Steven K.

    I’ll be so glad when the expectation and anticipation of a new page isn’t also filled with sadness and trepidation. Biggest problem with staying up late/early for a page under current circumstances is that, if it’s emotionally intense, then trouble getting to sleep finally.

  • SpookyDomme

    My “aww” at Kyle’s solitary little tear got derailed by my brain screaming “The Weasleys are on their way!”
    Still. Poor baby.

  • EldrinSMP

    Is that a 1970 Pontiac GTO? Whoever’s car that is, they have good taste!

  • Artemis

    His tear is heart breaking.
    (I bet the tear trails leave marks on his face.)

  • Superjenny

    “Don’t bring anyone.”

    Brings half the group.

    • Curt Clark

      Was just about to say…

  • AxisFlowerCouple

    Boi, whatdidhejustsaydammit