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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Three—Page 26

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Fluke, you realize you’re not actually wearing a watch, you silly goose!

Wait, did Spooky just say something?

We also have new Fan Art from Jeremy Thew who says “I think I went a bit literal when I read something about trans-world identities.. So Kyle gets a twin sister: Kylie AKA Red Hot.” It’s very cool, so you should definitely check it out!

Oh, and

***THIS IS A BONUS PAGE***

Our thirty-second bonus page in a row! And while I was away for the weekend, y’all went CRAZY, and pushed the donation bar past $800! That was definitely a treat (and a surprise!) to come back to! LOL As many of you know, ordinarily I don’t count donations over $400 towards another bonus page, instead just starting the count again once the bar is reset again to $0. I do this 1) to keep things simple (my donation plugin isn’t set up for spreading donations over multiple pages, so it can be a bit challenging to keep on top of the accounting) and 2) because several donators let me know they wanted a way to contribute a little extra so that more of my art costs are covered. But this is certainly a special, unique circumstance and thus the $800 will absolutely count for TWO NEW BONUS PAGES!

So, that means that in addition to our regular Saturday updates, a bonus page (page 28!) on Wednesday, February 26th, a bonus page (page 30!) on Wednesday, March 5th, and a bonus page scheduled for Wednesday, March 12th, there will now be TWO new bonus pages—on Wednesday, March 19th and Wednesday, March 26th! We’re not even done with February yet and you’ve got the whole month of March covered! Just when I think y’all can’t amaze me any more than you do, you go and do something like this! Your incredible support makes the creation of this comic possible and it’s a huge morale booster. There are some ups and downs in my life right now, and your amazing generosity is a tremendous boost for me. You all really do ROCK!

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So! Looks like Spooky’s got a little story of his own to share. Any of your curious what he has to say on this topic?

Tune in this Saturday to find out! Hope to see you there! 🙂

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  • Ooh.. I knew it!

    • Heh heh heh… sometimes I’m so wise.
      chris’ halo glows bright

      • *tossing muffin up and down*

        • NO! Over here….. humph.

          • I’m working on my targeting system. Have to toss the muffin up and down a few times or more to make certain the aim is right. I’ll get to it.

          • Maybe we need to get you one of those air guns they use to shoot rolled up t-shirts high up into the stands at sporting events during intermission?

            Fun, huh?

          • Muffin gun Muffin gun!! I needs it precious!

          • Adam Black

            watch out!,

            you remember what happened to Ned Flanders wife

          • *scratches head* Nooooeeeee?

          • She got offed by a t-shirt gun. Hit by a shirt and knocked out of the Springfield baseball stadium

          • Ohhhhhh yeah.

          • It was a tragic event.

            That said… muffin gun muffin gun

          • HA!

    • Another V for Danish!

      • Yes, and had the page been up less than a 1min later, I wouldn’t have gotten it xD
        I had just reached the point where I HAD to get up to put my clothes on, but refreshed one last time and that was it. As soon as I had posted I left the chair.

        I did have to speedwalk for the bus afterwards *lol*

  • Mitch is over by the car. I like his profile.

    • I like it too. He’s so respectful standing there, watching. He doesn’t rush over to Kyle to figure out what’s going on with him. He just waits. I think this is a very good sign that Mitch really likes him.

      Going back to finish your story! I’ll come back here with comments.

      • Your story! I like it very much. Good start and then there’s this…”the resplendence of Mitch’s erection.” I mean that right there is enough to put wonderful images in my head even without the floating.

        I like that Spooky just kind of disappeared then it seems Kyle might have forgotten that he even existed after Mitch went over there and…and…

        Yes, Doki, that’s a good start of the story! Can’t wait to read the rest though I’m wondering what you’re having trouble with? The next part after the kiss?

        • Well….there have been multiple parts that have given me trouble, wasn’t sure how to handle them. This is my first time writing fanfic of any sort. And I have not written a story since high school, so that is coming close to 12 years.

          • Keep writing! Keep going. You’ll figure out the trouble parts.

          • Well I am great with ideas, it is just implementing them and expanding on them that I have problems with.

          • It’s just practice, that’s all. Practice with writing more and getting your ideas down in a way that makes sense to you. Writing is like any skill: you get better as time goes on.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I think you’re doing well so far as I’ve gotten! And practice is really helpful for improving. If you want to bounce ideas off of anyone or talk out parts that are giving you trouble, I’d be happy to volunteer.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I’ve finished it, and it’s awesome! <3 <3 <3

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Ooh, Doki wrote a story? I’ve got to go check that out!

  • OOoooh He was sent to hell? Dayam!

    • SofiaT

      Ha! Same reaction, different reasons 😛

    • Saxon_Brenton

      My first reaction was to wonder whether he was already a demon-wrangling sorcerer (in which case it may have been an opponent who thought sending him to Hell would be ironic) or whether he wasn’t and this was the event that set him on the path to being a demon-wrangling sorcerer.
      (Yes, I know, sometimes I’m far too analytic for my own good.)

      • SofiaT

        No, it’s a legit question (and theory).

      • Sofia’s right. It’s definitely a legit question and one I wondered about myself.

        Was it the trip to hell that made him a demon hunter or was he already a hunter that got sent to hell because he was a hunter?

        • Steven K.

          I think I prefer Saxon’s term of “wrangler” to “hunter”. We have a sense that Spooky might deal with or employ or even fight demons, but we are not sure that he actually HUNTS them.

      • Steven K.

        Well, it’s a good and logical question to ask under the circumstances.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Spookie has been to hell too!

  • Another swell page… thanks guys.

    • SofiaT

      Now you’re just copying Paul… And Clark. 😛

      • 😛 (well Clark… hard to argue about that one).

        • Adam Black

          Clark?

          • SofiaT

            “Swell” is used by Clark Kent in Superman: The Movie and later in Superman Returns.

            Paul used it on the previous page too.

          • Adam Black

            I guess smallville overwrote those deails

          • “Swell.”

            It’s a Clark Kent go-to word. I could be wrong.

    • You’re very welcome, Chris. Enjoy the husband and the wine! (And not necessarily in that order! 😉 )

  • SofiaT

    So the birthday does matter? Duuym.

  • Kalynn Osburn

    Your shit? Fluke don’t buy none of it.

  • Whoa!!!

    I wonder if he went there the same way.

    • Terri Sutton

      My first thought too.

    • Steven K.

      People have been wondering about that, but he in no way seems to have the same powers of “ignition” as Kyle, which seems to have been vital, so I’m not sure what kind of energies he would have generated to allow that to happen in a similar fashion.

      • True, true. Now I’m really curious as to how he got there. Friday night is only a couple of days away, thank goodness.

  • Sapfo

    Just got to work. Great great new page. Have fun! ^_^

  • jreed3842

    Oh! Looks like some heavy shit just got dropped! I need to know more…. like…. right now!!

  • SofiaT

    I smell Sircea.

    • silibub

      Smells divine. (Sorry. I’m also thinking she’s involved)

      • SofiaT

        I like you, silibub.
        I may not like Sircea, but I sure as hell like you 😀
        (Sorry, too soon?)

        • silibub

          Nah, I’ll take it! I like you too *fist bump*

          • SofiaT

            *fist bump*
            Villain lovers unite!

    • jreed3842

      Me too…. And she kind smells like an old Vanilla candle, it’s weird… but also beside the point.
      But yeah… I was totally thinking the same thing. I think Spooky was used by PP the same way Kyle was used by Duncan.

      • Wow. I hadn’t even thought of that. Very interesting.

      • dereule101

        The only thing that confuses me about this (in my opinion, very likely) theory is that Duncan had to ask for immortality for Sircea, too. So if she used Spooky to go to hell, what was she bargaining for? So mysterious!

        • jreed3842

          I mean, obviously nothing catastrophic happened with Spooky like it did with Kyle, because Spooky was able to keep the whole incident under wraps.
          Perhaps PP asked for something that would allow for her to achieve their future plans for immortality? But… yeah…. I really wanna find out more!

        • Steven K.

          Well, maybe if there was an attempt with Spooky, it didn’t quite work out.

      • Steven K.

        Very weird – I thought of the vanilla thing as well, without much of an explanation for that.

    • Of course Sircea… because Alex always takes the “expected” path… I’ll wait and see… 😛 (heh, heh, heh)

      • silibub

        If Alex is setting us up for a fake-out, he’s doing a really good job! I’m pretty convinced, myself.

      • SofiaT

        True! Though, maybe he did take the expected path because he knew we would expect him, um, not to take the expected path, therefore the expected path becomes… um… the unexpected… path.

        …too Princess Bride?

        • Jamie Dutton

          Does this mean they aren’t gonna make out?

          • Adam Black

            NO, they have to make out next scene—-
            Right before Spooky tells kyle that he always wanted to kiss his brother!

            Its the ROTJ plan

          • Steven K.

            Probably only half-brother, given their individual phenotypes. Not sure that makes it more “OK”, but I am sure that they would be no more than half-brothers.

          • Adam Black

            How would be know if Laampros was Chinese Demon?

          • I think @jamiedutton:disqus will ignore incest if it gets a good make out scene going. Hey? Just guessing.

        • You know me so well, Sofia…

          • stickfigurefairytales

            So you *have* been building up an immunity to iocaine?

          • A dread pirate never tells.

          • As you wish…

          • silibub

            You’re entirely too crafty, is the problem.

          • Adam Black

            that or he watched star wars too many times.

            I cant wait for a sibling smooch next

          • A hot brother or sister in the Black family?

          • SofiaT

            Well, you know. As they say, never get involved in a land war in Asia and never go against Sofia’s twisted kind of logic…

          • Oh please… it doesn’t matter what plot-cup you drink from. Alex has spent seven painful years building up an immunity to expected super-hero comic tropes. It wouldn’t matter which plot-cup you drink from…

            Bwaaaahahahahahah….

            *and then you’d keel over*

    • purplefoxglove

      I dunno. Maybe it was some sort of weird family induction thing Spooky had to go through to be initiated as the family’s new demon hunter? We don’t know about his family (if he has one), he obviously packs some serious and powerful magic and is well-trained, so…maybe it runs in the family? And a little trip to hell is what is needed to prove he is worthy?

      After all, if Spooky had fit the bill for Sircea and Duncan, they would have pulled the portal-and-key stunt right then and there and not waited for Kyle to be of age, shadowing him for years and putting an effort into making Kyle trust Duncan. As far as I understood it, they needed exactly Kyle’s powers to go hell-tripping…no matching power, no trip to hell. Matching power, a trip to hell and the deal done, no further searching and waiting.

      …Or maybe Spooky’s demon powers were not strong enough, like, there is not enough daddy in him to follow through with the plan? George must have been very confused: BOOM! A naked teenage boy chained to a stone slab and Sircea appear. Before he gets an eyeful (no pun intended), BOOM! …gone they are again. A confuddled Laampros appears: “Did something happen?” *insert telepathic answer from Georgy* “Dang! Not powerful enough again? Looks like I need to make more hellspawn…”

      • Steven K.

        Hmmm – good points, especially the second paragraph. Though relating to something mentioned in the first, and alluded to elsewhere – we know Spooky can “conjure” demons, but is he actually a demon HUNTER?? I’m not sure we have conclusive evidence to support this as a vocational role for him.

        • purplefoxglove

          Hm, that’s true – on page 18 of this chapter, Kyle said Spooky’s whole life was fighting demons, which to me was tantamount to being a demon hunter, but I could, of course, be wrong…maybe Kyle was exaggerating to make a point, or Spooky may have spent a lot of time fighting demons because he has a talent for dealing with them. I guess things will clear up with the next update. *sigh* Is it Saturday yet?

          • Steven K.

            No – you are right – “fighting” demons may also include first hunting them more than I had supposed. I just wasn’t really thinking that he spends a lot of time actively hunting them – seeking them out to destroy, etc. I figured it might be more of a situation where someone calls in with a problem, or a report comes in, then he is sent to deal with the demonic situation – more of a consultant-on-call sort of thing.

    • Steven K.

      If that’s the case, I hope she’s wearing something pleasant – Shalimar maybe, or perhaps honey-apricot or vanilla-pear body wash. Or Finesse hair products? (The straight boy I fell in love with in high school used those – will always have this nostalgic bittersweet association for me.)

    • So give us a hint… you getting a whiff of Clive Christian ‘No. 1’ Women’s Pure Perfume Spray 1.7 oz @ $499? Or just some nasty cheap knock off?

      • SofiaT

        Sircea would never use a cheap knock off!
        I don’t like the woman but at least that much I know about her!

        • I Googled the world’s most expensive women’s perfumes… $499.00 for 1.7 oz. LOL. Hey what do I know? 🙂

          • SofiaT

            There are women who will pay $2,000 for a purse so it doesn’t surprise me.

            Then again, there are men who will pay $200,000 for a car, so…

          • Don’t make me trot out ‘Imelda Marcos’ and her shoe collection, amassed while her country starved… or we can go back and forth on this all day… besides I was wrong… I’ve been told. AJ found an oz. bottle for almost $15,000.

            I don’t think either sex has a prior claim on selfish behavior and that was never really the point.

            Although, I still think Sircea buys and wears the good shit. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Nah, it wasn’t a battle-of-the-sexes thing.
            It was a consumer-stupidity-has-no-gender thing 😀

          • I figured… 🙂

          • HA. My Google-Shui has failed me. Your link has saved me Admiral.

          • I think it’s Google-Fu but I won’t tell anyone. 😛

          • Da’fuq… there are rules about decorating my room layout as if I was Google now? That’s worse than being accused of being a “fake-geek” or was it “fake-nerd?”

            I give up….

          • You’ve confused the Admiral.

            The Google-Force is strong in this one.

  • Of course Paul doesn’t look like he’s buying it. Really Paul, would Spooky lie to you?!

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I wonder if Spooky’s hell trip involved the PP, and that’s the reason he met her. If it happened when he was 18 too, then it was two years ago.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Seriously, what is it with birthdays?

    • SEEEEEEEE….exactly those birthday clowns parents rent are actually evil servants of Laampros scouting for future little Kyles… Birthdays are EEEEEVIL. 😉

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Wait, would anyone actually be surprised that clowns are evil?

  • silibub

    *GAAASP*

    But how did he — and whoever sent him there *cough*probablySircea*cough* — get through the barrier? I figured Kyle’s demonic parentage was a key factor in crossing over, and that’s why Duncan and Sircea targeted him specifically. So does this mean Spooky has some demon in him, too? RRRGH so many questions! I also wonder if it’s the birthday or the specific age that’s important.

    • SofiaT

      The End of Innocence?

      • silibub

        Maybe! Convenient that it would happen to be the same age that marks the transition to adulthood, or at least in the States. Maaan, I want to know what’s going on!

        • There may be something to both. Birthday(s) of some nature may bring about some necessary alignment. Unless Alex is just being USA PC… it’s hard for me to believe “18” is the thing, because we all know that the “age of adulthood” slides from country to country and time-period to time-period.

          But Sofia’s delicate reference to virginity makes perfect sense. So, if you need a guy with the right sort of “power” and you need him a virgin and his birthday causes an alignment and you can gain his trust… well.. thennnnn maybe you break through the walls of blood and pain and get what you want.

          And no it still doesn’t make make Sircea Kyle’s creepy mother because… age o’Spooky, etc… Unless of course, time moves differently in Hell, but I haven’t had enough coffee for that.

          • SofiaT

            Maybe the boys needed to be 18 because they’re Americans (-if it turns out that it was on Spooky’s 18th birthday too). “Adulthood” is a perception, a subjective notion. I’m 31 and I still don’t feel like an adult. But it’s a fact that once you turn a certain age, the world starts treating you different. And by different, I mean harder.

            That’s what I meant by “The End of Innocence”. The time when you stop being protected and start being treated like everyone else. And see that all those people who told you when you were a kid not to be in a hurry to grow up, were right.

          • Okay, I like that, but Kyle’s END OF THE INNOCENCE might have come when he burnt his foster family? Possibly?

            However, if it saves me from Hell then I’m with you. I’m still much much too young for Hell-sex… 😛

          • Adam Black

            Ive come to the conclusion that innocence isnt something you lose once, its something that gets drained out of you your entire life.

            Also paradoxically, if you think you never had any, that just means you havent lost it, so cant tell

          • That’s a good answer. I think then I lost mine when I first thought about guys doing…. WHAT? WHAT?

    • Jamie Dutton

      It could just be a certain type of power that’s necessary to get through the walls. Whether it’s demonic pyro-based or mystical, power is power.

    • Klaus

      Would Spooky go to a more Chinese themed hell?

    • Steven K.

      Yes – much somber pondering about that here.

  • CH

    Did Sircea actually seduce Spooky? Oh MY.
    Well he really does want to talk hell stuff then…

    • silibub

      Niiice, haha!

      • Oh, Silibub, don’t fret. Spooky isn’t you honey. I’m sure Sircea ‘makes love’ to a woman, but was just ‘straight-for-pay’, so to speak, with Spooky. It was a frottage of convenience, I’m sure.

        • silibub

          LOL, luckily I’m not the jealous type when it comes to purely strategic seduction, but reassurance is always appreciated!

          • I only speak the truth. Sircea & Silibub… it’s not just alliterative. It’s awesome.

            Once the book is done and it’s time for fanfic… I’ll be looking out for your edition. 🙂

            Edit: I tried to make Disqus alert you to my uses of your name in my book of a note, but it wouldn’t let me… go figure. But, feel free to correct me if I quoted you poorly. LOL.

            Best,
            ChrisD

          • silibub

            Heh, when the time comes for fanfiction, I’m really attached to the YP/Artifice crossover I have in my head where Maven is the go-to therapist for the hero teams — I have a vague notion of reimagining NoNeCo as an organization in charge of managing the teams, but with some shady intentions that the Protectors, outside the corporation’s influences, wind up uncovering.

            If I ever tossed myself — or some version of myself — into a narrative like this, where I had a relationship with an antagonist, it would almost certainly be to deconstruct the common fantasy of being the only one with the power to “tame” a villain. But I’d probably save that for an original project!

            That said, my interest in that trope (and turning it on its head) is part of the reason I’m so intrigued by Kyle and Duncan’s relationship and its fallout. I don’t think Kyle was motivated by the desire to change Duncan — believing Duncan was already well on his way to reformation was a key element to Kyle deciding to put his trust in Duncan — but it must have been incredible to hear, in Hong Kong, that just being around him made Duncan want to be better. I can’t imagine that didn’t make him feel good, or even powerful. But I identify with Kyle in a lot of ways, from the sexuality struggle to having sex with someone who then proceeded to put you in a dangerous situation (ugh). I don’t think Kyle and Duncan could achieve a sense of resolution unless Duncan changed for the better, and because he wanted to, not just because he wanted to prove himself worthy of someone like Kyle.

            Uh. Sorry to ramble!

        • Steven K.

          Eww. Yeah – I was really hoping Sircea was Lesbionic, and that there would be a scene somewhere down the road where she’s trying to seduce Amanda. Kind of a foil to the Kyle/Duncan thing. But when Duncan mentioned Sircea would have tried to do the deed if Kyle was straight, it burst my hopes. It’s not that I’m all that turned on by Lesbian sex (not at all, really), but if I’m going to have to view an erotic scene that is not guy-guy, I’d much prefer seeing that to having to be subjected to a heterosexual scene. There is way too much of that everywhere else that I have to wade through – I don’t need to see it in my gay-themed story. I get SOOOO bummed when I’m watching a supposedly gay themed movie and suddenly there is het-sex going on. Gee – does it have to be in the GAY stuff as well? – So ubiquitous already, I want gay-sex in my gay themed stories. I don’t really mean to apply this general comment to TYP specifically (not yet anyway) – I know it is meant to appeal to a wide range of tastes and orientations. But I had this feeling very strongly when watching “Brokeback Mountain”. There seemed to be more heterosexual banging being shown than hot cowboy-on-cowboy sex. And when on two occasions (I think) when one or the other of the boys is in bed with a partner of the opposite sex, I suddenly am faced with naked female breasts popping out at me from the screen – and all I can say to myself is “Titties! TITTIES?? WHY are there titties in my gay cowboy movie?? That is NOT what I paid for!”

          • Adam Black

            Poor steve

          • Adam Black

            Speak for yourself, i would have loved a sultry Graduate style seduction by Platinum Princess to kyle.

            If it worked , it would have been eyecandy ,

            if it failed, Sirceas charms failing on the young gay Hero, it would have been an hysterical comeuppoance of straight sexual tropes and the Villainess.

            So either Hard hero, or gay comeuppance. Either way its win-win for me.

          • Steven K.

            I am speaking for myself – that’s the whole point of commenting. Wouldn’t be doing otherwise and commenting for other people. (Condolences on the internet problems, btw.)

          • Adam Black

            well let us know when you are not speaking for yourself , so we can mount a rescue

            Bilnk or something. Use a Code word like: ‘vaginas are intriguing— and Im not saying that as a professional Anatomist , but for reasons of Transcendent Aesthetics I posses too much taste to describe’
            and we will know you are being held hostage by a gang of disgruntled Community-College students terrorist looking for to torturte their way into prassing grades. We will load up the Phallus Mobile and mount some type of rescue.

            Actually, that sounds like it would make an really awesome comic-book

          • silibub

            I guess even if Sircea were a lesbian, she could have bitten the bullet and seduced Kyle anyway if he had been straight.

            I haven’t seen Brokeback Mountain, but it kind of makes me laugh when a story ostensibly centered on a gay relationship manages to wrangle in some straight sex — especially when they have to show you instead of just leaving it implicit. It’s okay if it has plot relevance, but usually it just seems like a cheap way of trying not to alienate their heterosexual male audience — throw some boobs at them, they’ll stick around!

          • Steven K.

            LOL Yep – EXACTLY!

          • Steven K.

            Oh – by the way – thanks for a thoughtful and supportive reply, rather than just an anonymous downvote. Makes me feel a little better – not sure why that comment may have bothered some people. I hope they are not freaking about someone using the term “tittie”. God knows they use it enough in South Park. And to me it’s no different than calling a penis a “willy”, or something like that (or any of the other 100 slang terms for penis). Gee – makes me wonder what would happen if I ever referred to a vagina as a coochie, or some such thing (I’ve never typed that word before, so I’m not even sure if that’s the proper spelling).

          • I strongly suggest seeing BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN first, before you review it. It was harrowing for some of us.

            The title is no accident.

            The movie made me cry HARD on and off for three days. If there is a non-queer moment of physical intimacy in it, it’s there to highlight the pure pain and loneliness of two men who are not allowed to be together.

            There is NO fan-service in that film. No boobs of het-boy joy. It’s just hard hard hard. If you think that m/m relationships are what Yaoi has led you to believe them to be? Then it’s more than time to watch that film.

            When I saw it opening weekend, the heterosexual men left the theatre in stunned silence. Everybody did, but the sobbing gay man and his quiet husband in the back.

          • SofiaT

            I never watched Brokeback Mountain because I didn’t want to get depressed, not because I minded the gay relationship in it.
            Just the idea of someone having to pretend all his life, breaks my heart.

          • Steven K.

            THREE downvotes? REALLY? Just cuz I used the T-word? Lighten up people – where is your humor?? Joan Rivers calls them bosoomies for god’s sake. And what’s wrong with being irked, as a gay man, at being constantly inundated with graphic heterosexual sex scenes all over film and TV these days, and then having to watch it pop up several times in a supposedly gay-themed work that is supposed to be about a gay relationship (or at least male-male), and there’s more graphic heterosexual sex than the homosexual variety? Graphic heterosexuality is oozing off from everything in the media constantly – I just want my gay content to actually be gay – what little of it there is compared to the heterosexual stuff. Is that too much to ask?

          • Derkins

            I understand where you’re coming from. As a straight female I had never really thought about it, but you’re right. Gay relationships are often approached only with hesitation on film (this, I already knew). The movie industry can hardly handle two gay men kissing. And movies about heterosexual couples are absolutely everywhere. So I feel for you in having fewer options in media, in that way. The other type of media, without straight relationships all together, is much further and father between. I think the only hang up is that, as an artist, I would support the idea of just getting comfortable with the human body and learning to appreciate chemistry between characters, etc. People are beautiful, whatever their sex, so it always bothers me when straight men act like gay sex is gross, and when gay men act like straight sex is gross. Neither is gross. It’s just people being intimate and sharing themselves with each other. I don’t support homophobia and neither do I support heterophobia. I’m straight and here I am appreciating this “gay story.” And don’t say it’s just cause I’m a woman. I know *plenty* of gay men who appreciate the female for, and even straight men who appreciate the male form. There are all kinds of people in the world. Of course what’s right for me isn’t right for everyone… but it’s a hangup that only effects you. It causes you to be constantly irked in life. It makes pretty much everything you watch so much less fun. And you can’t convince me that being sexually attracted to men means that you’re are disgusted and repulsed by females. That’s not how sexuality works. That’s how the mind can *become* when we train it to think that way. The down votes are probably because people don’t like being told that their bodies or capacity to make love is unpleasant or gross. Maybe try to think of it less as “gay movies” and “straight movies” (something I’ve never done before. I don’t get upset when there are stories about homosexuals that pop up within stories about heterosexuals) because *life* isn’t segregated. We’re all on this planet together. The more we recognize that the less power will be given to “us vs. them” thinking. We don’t belong to different club houses, and stories with gay and straight people in them together are going to happen whether you get upset or not. And if you’re just looking for a smutty good time, there are plenty of sources to get your fix for gay sex. So… you can stop picking on breasts, now. Maybe if media by and for gay people is a huge issue for you, instead of turning it around on straight sex, you could find a positive approach. For example, make a blog where you can share movies/media that is truly made for the gay person to enjoy. You could be part of a growing awareness that such a market exists, therefore encouraging creative people to make more of what you’re looking for.

  • Jamie Dutton

    Oh damn, the birthday matters?! Um, ya’ll know I was just kidding about it being my birthday tomorrow, lol.

    *hurriedly shoves the party supplies out of sight*

    I don’t want to go to Hell again. I did that crap over Christmas! 🙁

    • Ha! 🙂

      • Jamie Dutton

        Great page Alex!

    • Maria White

      Come on, we saved you your ‘special’ chair, and even ordered the special cake made from goats blood! Sam and Dean even promised to drop in for you!

      • Jamie Dutton

        Hmmm, Sam and Dean? Well, if the cake is shaped like a Tardis and Castiel happens to tag-along, I might change my mind.

        • KasumiBlu

          If that’s the case, even I will show at that party!

        • Steven K.

          Castiel …. *Sigh!* I’d like an angel just like him to keep popping in on me – preferably at night, alongside of me in the bed.

          • Adam Black

            Yeah, I think thats more the job of an incubus

      • Steven K.

        “Red velvet”, no doubt.

  • Damnit, I don’t even have time to comment on this.. I’ll be back later.
    *runs for the bus*

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Have a good day!

    • Jamie Dutton

      Bye danish, have a good day at work!

    • Yes, yes, have a good day!

    • Have a good day, Danish!

  • silibub

    Heh, I really enjoy Spooky’s little guiding gestures — I like how his tendency to have a hand out directing Kyle kind of reflects their dynamic, and the supportive role he’s playing right now.

    Not so much his pained/tired expression in panel four, though. No doubt this is going to be a fraught story.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Poor Spooky!

      • Jamie Dutton

        They both need hugs

        • Klaus

          Good thing they’ve got each other.

  • Adam Black

    So many Theories!
    I cant write them all down fast enough.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I’d be interested in reading them. 🙂

      • Adam Black

        1) next scene they smooch… but
        Spooky reveals they are brothers
        ( Search your heart. You know it is true )

        • Adam, did you mention that we might see Spooky’s horns when his came off after Mitch let go of the car?

          Someone did…

          • I thought he might have something hidden beneath the cap, but what, was the question.

          • Adam Black

            It was your heart @admiraljane:disqus

          • Are you saying Spooky stole it away?

          • Adam Black

            Quickm dont let him get away

          • HA! I think he’s quicker than that.

          • Adam Black

            I think hes a witch.
            Isnt there some test involving ..um wood? bedposts? or water.. throw him n the waterbed see if he rises to top? something lik ethat

          • Something like that. 😛

          • Adam Black

            Take this Vibrating witch rod, and poke him a few times.Witches hate that

          • They do? That should prove interesting

          • No go swimming in the pool… there is something about sinking or floating, but I can’t remember which means which…

            Goddess… where IS my Bewitched collection. Agnes Moorehead did have all the answers and I’m not saying that just because of her last name…

          • Adam Black

            I got confused there, and thought you said your real name was Moorhead

          • Nope the divine Agnes Moorehead (1900–1974) played Samantha’s mother, in BEWITCHED, a witch with wicked style and verve. From 1964 to 1972 she was the most fabulous mother on television. One of a kind.

            Although your confusion isn’t wrong on its surface… just sayin’.

          • Though I will admit to liking also the actress that played Endora in the recent (ish?) Bewitched movie. She was great in that role.

          • Shirley McLaine? 2005

          • Yes. ^_^

          • Adam Black

            totally. I saw on the Mythory channel

          • I don’t understand… so you’re saying he’s wearing a “cap” under those baggy jean also? Woah… the surprises just keep coming… 🙂

          • loads muffin gun.

          • Wait… What?

          • Don’t play innocent Mister

          • Adam Black

            That I did.
            I think they are hidden in a glamour.

            I mean cmon, they are riding in a convertible. Spooky is not stupid

          • Steven K.

            And wasn’t there some discussion that the coat might be to help conceal a tail? Though I don’t think Laampros had a tail. Or did he? (Too lazy to go back and check at the moment.)

          • Adam Black

            i dont remember that.
            Tails without fur look creepy on humans

          • A handle is a handle is a handle… Wait? What?

          • Adam Black

            yeah, its a thing. a real thing

          • Indeed… I shall say no more! HA.

          • Adam Black

            Yes… dont blink!
            https://www.google.com/search?q=human+tail&num=50&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KYMFU9bgDsXY0gHM5oCICg&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=853&bih=523

            oh wait I didnt mean “dont blink”
            I think I meant close your eyes and run screaming from the room.. Sorry about that buddy.
            you cant unsee.

          • OUCH. Yes. He’s not lying. Learn from my mistakes and listen to Adam Black… do not LOOOOOOK.

  • TwilightDreamer

    *smash!*
    …..and there goes my jaw hitting the desk again….XD
    I think I stared at that last panel in shock for almost thirty seconds! rofl.
    I was eager to see what Spooky was going to say, but I did NOT see that coming.
    That expression on Spookys face in the 4th panel…I don’t think I’ve ever seen that kind of look on him o.o….I guess a true hurt of his has finally been hit.
    I want to see how this goes. Great job! 😀

  • David Welbourn

    I have no idea why there might be a connection between Hell and birthdays, except that it might be nice to have a candle and a magician at one’s birthday.

    I’m also gonna go against the suggestion that Sircea was involved in Spooky’s trip. It’s entirely possible it was a completely different circumstance. Perhaps Spooky’s mentor (I assume there was one) was attacked and needed rescuing. Or both Spooky and his mentor took a trip to Hell as part of his training. Maybe Spooky got a genie bottle as a birthday gift from the mysterious curios shop that vanished overnight. All sorts of possibilities.

    • thebitterfig

      Maybe, if a person is the child of a demon, a birthday might serve as a time when the child and their hellish progenitor are at closer alignment, allowing the gap to be traversed.

      Or, it could be the fact that, like New Years and Valentines, birthdays are often hellish.

      • Steven K.

        So true – that second comment. As for the first part, THAT is a very good and astute possible explanation.

  • Holly

    OH MY GOODNESS I MISSED CAMPING AGAIN! I am so sad. I was researching ways to pay for school and i totally forgot what day it was. (Though I did discover a crowd sourcing site for tuition. O_O )

    Anyway, WOW, Spooky went to hell on his birthday? which birthday I wonder? and why and how? OOO saturday can’t come soon enough!!!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I did the same thing! I realized I’d forgotten and rushed over as quickly as I could.

      • Holly

        haha, Oh sticky we are so similar.

    • Adam Black

      bad presents.

  • silibub

    I need to get up early to write a couple papers tomorrow, so I’m gonna bounce. Loved the page, thank you! Yet another perfect hook for Saturday — I’m so excited!

    • Jamie Dutton

      good luck with the writing, silibub!

    • Good luck! And Good Night!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Good night, and good luck with your papers!

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I’m wondering now if the reason that Spooky has turned down offers from other teams is because he wanted to be closer to Kyle, maybe keep an eye on him.

    • Sooo are you saying that Spooky might have known all along that Kyle might be part hell demon? Of all the people in this comic, he would probably be the one who would suspect.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Well, if Duncan and Sircea knew then maybe Spooky knew too, or suspected something. Maybe they are related as Adam has said. But there is a reason why Spooky has chosen to remain with the TYP, and it’s looking like that reason might have to do with Kyle.

        • Klaus

          Duncan and Sircea did not know. Duncan suspected.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            You are right. They suspected and didn’t know until after Duncan and Kyle went on their HK date and Sircea took what she needed to make sure.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Damn, tentacles! Those never bode well

          • Adam Black

            maybe spooky told Sirecea/Duncan

    • Steven K.

      Nice thought.

    • If he did, he hasn’t really done a great job. 🙁

  • Jamie Dutton

    I’m so happy to see Samantha and Mitch in the first panel. But my favorite has to be panel 4! Paul’s rear view is as lovely as Kyle’s 🙂

    • Definitely my favorite view of Paul….

      …..did I just type that?

      • Jamie Dutton

        Well you don’t always have to like someone to enjoy the view 😉

      • Klaus

        Somebody must have.

  • Time for me to go to sleep. Fun camping tonight even if it was a shorter one for me. Have fun!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Me too. Sleep well!

    • Sleep well!

  • Klaus

    A prediction: chapter 3 part 1 will have either 30 or 31 pages.

  • Kate G

    I DON’T WANT TO BE SENT TO HELL AGAIN!!!! I did that on my 18th birthday all ready.

    It’s only once, right? RIGHT?! Please, Spooky, tell me Hell only comes once.

    (In all seriousness, Hell was my 18th birthday. Maybe I’m part superhero? This year’s wasn’t all that chipper either.)

    Kyle’s and Spook’s expressions continue to amaze me. And can we just pause for a minute at Panel 3? The perspective and shading of Kyle and Spooks is just AMAZING. And Kyle’s hair in panel 4 looks so life life that I’m itching to put my hands in it.

    Fine, I love Kyle’s hair in general. I SAID IT.

    • See everybody… HAIR!

      • Kate G

        HA HA HA!!!!

    • Steven K.

      Oh – don’t feel odd about that – I’ve been feeling that way about Kyle’s hair for a long time now (and Mitch’s too)! Sorry to hear about your birthdays not being too happy. I can usually relate to such things.

      • Steven K.

        I’ve rarely seen guy-hair depicted so well or sexily in comics – as I’ve said before, the artists are true masters at this.

        • Kate G

          I know! It’s like, “Can I PLEAAAAAAAAASE have a Kyle come walking by just so I can manhandle the hair?”

          I agree; Mitch’s hair is great too, but I guess I’m developing a thing for redheads with Kyle! HA HA HA! I seriously want to brush that hair. Okay, aside from having a thing for seriously gorgeous eyes, really nice, thick gorgeous hair on guys = Katie goo. On females I will get itchy fingers and try to find a way to braid your hair as I have fine, thin hair and my braids are not magnificent. I gave my cousins over the summer “Katniss” braids and about cackled in glee because they were glorious.

          • I love having people play with my hair. ^_^

          • Kate G

            I’m a little particular about who plays with my hair. Some people really yank on it or yank in the tangles I get and that hurts!!!!! My hairdresser loves to play with my hair though and she can do amazing things with it!

          • I can handle a fair bit of yanking, the really soft, almost not there touching is what I don’t like. There is such a thing as too light a touch. My hair doesn’t like to curl. Even with hairspray the curl comes undone. They just brush right out. 🙁 The only way they don’t brush out is if I put them up when wet, let my hair dry completely and then brush them. Though it really helps if there is a lot of pressure on the spot. (learned this while putting my hair up in a pony tail while wet and then taking it down when dry to brush and then put back in a ponytail)

          • Kate G

            Oh, I can be manhandled in a way, but then there’s the people who yank and braid so tight that my hair feels like it’s coming out of my scalp. IE MY MOTHER. There was a particular reason I had my braids until my mother was out of sight on the bus and I had my best friend redo them; her braids always gave me a headache!

            I wet set pin curl, fabric curl or rag curl my hair generally as it’s pin straight and fine so my hair will not hold other curls for the same strength as wet set heatless styles. I’ve figured out how to get 1 1/2″ curling iron curls to stay for hours (Redken something or another. It’s meant to help flat iron your hair…I use it to curl my hair!) …but they don’t stay as long as a wet set.

  • Yukiness

    Is hell the new go to destination for birthday goers? I didn’t know you could rent out hell for parties!

    • Klaus

      I had a period of my life when birthdays seemed cursed. My own never got hit by the curse, though.

      • Yukiness

        When was that? I had a few terrible birthdays, one that almost landed me in the hospital.

        • Klaus

          When I was 12, my father went into hospital on his 45th birthday. He had cancer, end we knew he was not coming back. He died a couple of months later, on my grandfather’s birthday.

          My cousin’s boyfriend who, she was living with, and who she later married, attended his mother’s funeral on his 22nd birthday.

          My grandfather died on his brother’s birthday.

          One of my friends had kidney trouble almost from birth. When he was 16, they got a kidney for him for transplant. He got the news on his mother’s birthday. “The best birthday gift I ever got,” his mother called it. The transplant itself went really well, but the bladder they had to construct for him leaked. So they had to operate twice more. This was more than he could take, so he died.

          This over a period of ten years, or maybe a little more. But for the last 30 years or so, birthdays have not seemed cursed. And as I said, my own was never hit by the curse.

          • Yukiness

            I thought it was just a single year but my apologies for prying. You also have my condolences. My family is very small consisting of only 5 other people not including myself so i cannot imagine being strong enough to live through such heart ache.

            You sound like an amazing person.

    • It’s like going to Disneyland for your birthday, but not as bad.

  • Saturday! Oh Saturday! Come here Saturday! *whistles for the weekend*

    I wanna know Spooky’s story. How was he sent to hell? Why was he sent to hell? Who sent him to hell? Is that why he now hunts Demons? Or was it the ability to hunt demons that got him sent to hell in the first place?

    Panel four, the way he has his eyes closed as he’s trying to gather his thoughts, preparing to tell his story to Kyle because now Kyle will understand. In the final panel how Spooky’s shoulders appear hunched as he starts his confession.

    The plot has indeed thickened!

    What a great and incredible page. I love it! The various expressions and body language really jump off the page and help tell the story. I’m hooked all over again!

  • vessto

    Ooh, what a good start fo the Story…. 😀 I’m sure Spooky have even more secrets to reveal that only the Hell one…

    Panel 3. *gasp* Hot blue ass and hot red-white abs.XD

    Amazing fanart!!!! Love it and I’m curious how trans-world Anni would look.:D

  • ”And we have a faith together,we should hang out Kyle” says Spooky LOL

  • steelie

    Interesting page… Paul’s face in panels one and two – concern about what Spooky will say? Feeling like there is BS going on? Concern for Spooky because he knows the backstory? Anxious to get going? Hard to decjpher and really intriguing.

    Panel 3 – fine, FINE physiques! Thank you for pandering to our baser instincts in addition to the engaging story.

    And in the last panels, Spooky’s expressions and words leave me in the same quandary as Paul’s expressions. Is he opening up about a very painful memory? Is he unsure he should share this with Kyle right now? Did Sircea have a hand in what happened to Spooky (in which case I nominate her as additional target for the pitchfork brigade since NOBODY should mess with the Spooks and put that hesitant look on his face – I will mess with her – yeah, he’s become my favorite and I’m feeling protective – grrrrrrr!)?

    • Oh, don’t worry, Sircea has long already been on the list. We are an equal opportunities impaler.

      • steelie

        I think we should have a marshmallow roast after we impale them. Thinking Kyle’s flames might come in handy there. A little Sircea on a stick here, a little ashen Annihilator there – it’s all good.

        • Steven K.

          Good idea.

      • Steven K.

        Glad to know! Yeah – if Sircea did something similar to what Duncan did, she deserves a PROPER skewering.

        • She’s on the list for targeting a vulnerable teenager. Duncan gets no 1 on the list, though, for being the bastard to carry it out, despite actually liking Kyle, and for refusing to make the awful experience somewhat less awful, even in tiny ways. Bastard. STAB STAB STABBITY STAB.

      • strangeangel24601

        Did you choose that profile picture specifically to go with that comment? Because it is too perfect for words.

        • Oh, it is the official icon for Team Pitchfork. 🙂

  • fujoshifanatic

    This is not too surprising if you think about it, but still very cool and definitely a story I want to hear. Spooky is very chill for having been to Hell and back, and I think Kyle could use some of his insights right about now.

  • Monica

    Flukes butt in tights :3

  • Pikinanou

    My memories might be wrong but wasn’t it Spooky that once told Kyle that the platinium priestess wasn’t someone to be trusted? I got the feeling it’s related to what’s going to to revealed soon :O Sircea might have tried the whole Hell gate summoning ritual before Duncan did

    • Steven K.

      I kinda hope not, but sounds like it could be leading that way. At least he’d have no reason to “lecture” Kyle if he let something similar happen to him.

    • Klaus

      This is what I can find om the subject: http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch1-page-15/

      • Pikinanou

        yes, this is the exact page I was thinking of 🙂

  • Shella_Bluey

    This morning I fell trying to catch the train and hurt my knees. Nothing is
    broken but I can hardly walk (this fast healing ability of the Annihilator
    would be handy now). The good thing is I could stay home all day and look at this new page again and again and again (and again and …).

    Thanks Alex, Adam and Veronica for creating this beautiful comic which can turn bad days into better ones :).

    I like how the characters get more and more fleshed out, and they are so unique and 3-dimensional characters. I loved to see this hesitant, more vulnerable side of Spooky here and have so many questions now. Wish Saturday would come earlier ;-).

    • Jamie Dutton

      Hope you feel better soon, Shella

      • Shella_Bluey

        Thanks, Jamie. 🙂

  • Sapfo

    Oh no! Spooky did it with The Annihilator also -_- (or was it The Platinum Priestess o.O)

  • EldrinSMP

    Woah, did not expect that.

  • Steven K.

    So – what is it with being sent to Hell on one’s BIRTHDAY???

    • Adam Black

      like it has never happened to you

  • Steven K.

    I know – feeling the same.

  • Katana_X

    Spooky is half demon too? Is that where this is going: “If you’re inherently evil, then I’M inherently evil, so Imma be pissed if that’s how you interpret it”?

  • alyssia

    holy sh!t what if they are brothers!!!!

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      Interesting thought…..although it ruins a *fantasy* of mine because brothers should never be lovers!

      • alyssia

        ouran high school host club hikaru and kyaru 0.0

        • Well…to be completely truthful, twincest is their selling point in the club. And Hikaru has a thing for Haruhi, and *looks around and whispers* In the later chapters/volumes of the manga, I think Kaoru and Kyoya have some really great chemistry. >.< *looks around again* If Kyoya finds out, I said this, I will deny everything.

          • alyssia

            well you see I ship kyoya and tamaki because in the manga they are so close and they almost try to spend every waking moment of there lives together (and honey and mori >//<)

          • I actually really love Honey with Reiko from the Black Magic Club. ^_^ Mori I want for myself.

            ……I could see Kyoya eventually snapping and sending Tamaki to the hospital….There is only so much idiocy he can handle. At least Haruhi has ample experience in dealing with that type.

            Though I also ship Kyoya and Haruhi, and Kasanoda and Class President of 1-A Souga, and Chika and Satoshi. ^_^

          • alyssia

            I think tamaki could get kyoya to lighten up more and kyoya could get tamaki to b a little more serious mori I wish I could have for my self honey I ony ship it if we can cross the universes my only hetero couple would be kanasoda and haruhi but I do agree with the chika and satoshi I guess I could be ok with that one and lastly the twins !!! have read one too many fanfictions for my own safety

          • Kasanoda was completely friend-zoned….he didn’t stand a chance. Being completely shot down (unknowingly on her part) by Haruhi in the club room, did gain him a lot of friends though. There was so much MOE going on in the club room that day.

            Though I do find it hilarious that of the three main guys that were after her, he is the one that “gets” Haruhi the most (as seen in the birthday chapter in the manga). Also the only one she never gets annoyed with.

            Yeah, that is one of the dangers of fanfic….

          • alyssia

            yea I guess the kasanoda ship could never sail DAMN YOU HARUHI!!

  • 5,4,3,2,1… Lift off on a new adventure. Dayum (to quote @disqus_P2huBPd9nS:disqus and @admiraljane:disqus ). Well I imagined a lot of things but Spooky’s line wasn’t exactly the first on my list. Thank you all for another step in the adventure of our guys. As always, a beautiful page packed with the visual and the intriguing.

    Okay before the wild plot speculation begins, I just again have to mention the really interesting panel layout and framing choices. It has nothing to do with how much information you pack in the frame. #1 is another grand example of a very complex shot. You show us where Mitch is and how he’s feeling with his relaxed pose and hands in pocket. Listening or not, it’s not his first time at this BBQ, and I think he may be full of questions, but he trusts his guys. He doesn’t look agitated to me.

    At the same time you give us an over-the-shoulder shot, so we immediately know where Kyle and Spooky are (coming off the last page) and A GREAT EXPRESSION on Paul’s face which @kalynnosburn:disqus described best. So I steal, thank you K.: “Your shit? Fluke don’t buy none of it.”

    Truer words…

    Paul’s “Yeah, O.K.” is the perfect equivalent of Spooky’s “Right.” on the last page.

    I almost expect Paul to do that *fingers to Paul’s eyes >>> fingers point to Spooky’s eyes” I got my eyes on you ‘SNEAKY’!

    OMG the expression is so perfect. He trusts them, they’re his buds, but he’s also not going to be goofed around. “Tick tock” also says that so perfectly. It’s a wonderful line, and made funnier by Alex’s note, NO WATCH thank you. Hello? I’m making a point that I’m going because I want to, NOT because you’re telling me too… yeah ‘riiiight’.

    Panel #3 is the only one, on this intimately-staged page, that lacks a border in the lower left corner… the direction they’re going. I love that subtle implication that there is open space and our eyes want to ‘feel’ their movement going off in that direction.

    I loved (I think it was?) Silibub’s mention of liking all Spooky’s little guiding hand motions and touches. It really does show confidence and maturity and gives you a feeling that he knows exactly what he’s doing. He IS guiding. In the truest sense of the word. Plus, as many have said, oh YEAH! Not only a nice down shot of Kyle’s front (why is everything red so dayum yummy?), butt also of Paul’s backside. You could so bounce many quarters off those bad boys. Yum. (Butt I digress).

    In #4 we see Kyle’s first worried face and Spooky’s (I would argue) first really pained face. He’s pulling up deep-stuff along with the ‘real’ Spooky in this moment, to share with Kyle.

    It’s not something, I suspect, anyone gets to see often. I think Spooky understands that only the most sincere honesty is going to help Kyle out in this dark time.

    Okay, last panel. Spooky’s face breaks my heart. Great framing past just a portion of Kyle’s jaw (lickable) and those Spooky side-eyes are so caringly and wonderfully expressive. Again, Spooky knows he’s talking to a TRAUMA patient. It’s so subtly shown and makes you love him more. Okay… I did laugh on the end of Spooky’s line “… Did I ever tell you that?”

    Gee no Spook, I think you forgot to mention this… over the last 500 years! HA. (Thank goodness Kyle is a gentleman and not a snarky bastard like me, or we’d never get Spooky’s story out of him.)

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    Okay, on the speculation front, I’m kinda with David Welbourn. We can posit this as a Spooky-Sircea confabulation, but not necessarily. There are still a million other options open to Alex. The time lines are all wrong unless you want to agree to time slips, warps, spells that deal in time, etc…

    Duncan’s dialog with Laampros implies Sircean knowledge, but not that everything about Kyle’s origins and/or Laampros’ relationship to Kyle is known by Duncan at least. Sircea’s moment with the tentacles, pre-Hong Kong, leads you to believe that she didn’t know everything either… and that was WHAT? One or two days ago — TYP time?

    So whatever the tangles are with both Kyle, Spooky, Sircea, Duncan and Laampros… they not simple. Hell indeed. No wonder Alex needed a weekend off. @alexwoolfson:disqus we promise you another one… someday… no really… soon-ish.

    Even if Sircea used Spooky to take Kyle’s mother to Laampros and it was a sexual spell thing for Spooky also? What are we talking about? Even sex on Spooky’s 14th birthday? That still doesn’t give Kyle time to get to 18? Besides the ewwwww factor. Even Sircea can’t be the mother and the timelines still don’t work for Kyle at 18 unless impossible magic and quantum mathematics are involved.

    @disqus_FidZAwLkzS:disqus is suggesting ROTJ sibling activity. Cool, but that needs to be 20 years ago that Sircea took someone over to get preggers by Laampros and produce little Hell-Spooky, who turned out not to be amenable to her plan? Erm… but she still wouldn’t have known that wouldn’t work until long after the time she would have had to arrange for Kyle’s birth 18 years ago as (what?) a back-up to a recalcitrant Spooky? So Laampros did all that on his own and somehow she caught wind of it? (OUCH Alex?)

    *chris is getting a math headache, blames alex, and takes a break for an aspirin, a cuppa tea and a lie-down with a moist cloth. awwwww.*

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    Okay changing direction, since I’m making no sense, as usual.

    I’m really okay with Spooky being non-queer (I’m trying to wean myself off the term “straight,” I like Alex’s term better.)

    IF Spooky is non-queer? Honestly, I am disappointed that in 2014, the non-queer looks like a cool skate dude and the possibly gay characters are in spandex. That stereotype is so 10-20 years ago. You cannot tell today who is what by their attire, hair style, tattoos or piercings. Now I do understand, having myself lived in both San Francisco and New York for a time each, that there used to be a very specific “gay” uniform, which gays used to telegraph their status to each other in a more restrictive era. Hey, whass up? And the clothing signals all.

    So, long ago, Spooky’s sexless uniform would be a ‘hands-off signal’ for gays. Kyle would have had a little flame retardant hanky hanging out of the left or right back pocket of his way too painted on Levi’s, because he’s advertising the goods.

    But, not today. Is the Commander straight because she wears loose comfortable clothing? Is she a Lesbian because she isn’t wearing more feminine attire? Is Sircea a whore/slut because she works that outfit? Is Duncan really non-queer because he covers himself so thoroughly and masculinely and he was just doing his duty with Kyle?

    Obviously NOT. These characters are not anywhere near so simplistic to be labeled thusly. But, I share this as a reason why I play the Spooky is Bi game. Because, we all perceive him as cool, and who wouldn’t want to be in his camp and vice versa?

    More than any personal shipping wish regarding Spooky and Kyle, I’ve always just kinda hoped this really nice guy (Spooky) wasn’t just the only non-queer dude hanging around being kind to the confused gays.

    Sometimes we gays like to think the cool dudes are us too.

    And, honestly, as we see more and more brave interesting talented people come out of the closet — in the real world — we’re getting to see that they are. Matt Bomer, John Barrowman, SPRING AWAKENING/GLEE’S Jonathan Groff, Ellen Page, Bill Condon, Neil Patrick Harris, Ian McKellen (Gandalf is GAY!), and just recently Michael Sam goes into the American NFL draft having just come out, by his own choice. So so many more I’m not mentioning. Cool kids and non-cool kids… the lines are all blurred now and I like that.

    Greedy me… I just want the resident cool kid in TYP also, because we all admit… Spooky IS cool. However (Alex), I really do understand that this is NOT Spooky’s story so the guy who’s mistakes and pains we get to watch being overcome… is Kyle. That makes it complicated. We’re seeing Spooky AFTER his days of trial.

    Maybe that’s a good next book… and if Spook turns out to be non-queer then, in that book, the gays can save HIM. YAAAAYYYYY!

    However, having said my piece (yet again). I want them all to be happy more, because I’m that kind of sappy guy. (I wonder if under age sex with Sircea is so scary it turns you GAY???)

    *silibub, yawns and says, “and your problem is? It would just make me want to move in with her.”*

    Only time will tell.

    I just wonder why Dr. Strange didn’t warn Spooky about any of this? (Too soon for cross-overs? As you wish Princess Buttercup.)

    Alex, I love the mad speculation you bring on and I love this maddening character driven chapter because I’m just perverse that way. So thank you. Also huge thanks to Adam and Veronica… every expression, composition, frame and background gives us visual presents that allow us to sink into this world and BE IN IT, not just observe it. Thank you all three. This continues to be a real present of a book.

    • Thank you again for another wonderful comment, Chris. Always a real treat to read them! 🙂

    • Steven K.

      How could you forget Zachary Quinto and Wentworth Miller? Two of the hottest rather-recently “out” studly boys EVER! And then there’s Tom Daley as well..

      • So right SK… not forgotten. I have a list of… well… forever… but you saw how long my book was. Feel free (anyone!) to add cool out gay people to this post. There are SO many more brave people that inspire me. I simply knew I was going to break the internet if I didn’t stop. LOL.

      • Kyletin

        I love WM! 😀

        • Steven K.

          Yeah – he’s def. in my list of the sexiest guys of all time.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Love your comments as always, Chris, but you forgot to mention how lovely Samantha looks in that first panel!

  • Sai

    In 200 years people will still point at their wrists to indicate time and have no idea why the gesture exists.

  • Galderman

    Went to Hell, got super powers, came back to fight evil! Yea that’s Spooky alright! 😀

  • Valja

    I missed the latest updates, so I had to catch up today (something like 7 pages in one shot *grins*). It’s obvious then that I haven’t commented in a while.
    Well, as I read these pages, lots and loads of thoughts crossed my mind. But believe me when I say that they all can be summed up with the sentence I uttered out loud in my room when I read Spooky’s last line. It was in my own language, though I can pretty much translate it with:
    “Oh SHIT I just LOVE this fucking awesome comic!”.
    And, aehm, *coff* sorry for the coarse language.

    • LOL. Well, you’ve put a big smile on my face. Thank you! 🙂

  • Derkins

    I’m sure someone’s already said this, but… nice butt, Paul!

    • Have missed the Derkins.

      • Derkins

        Aw thanks. I’ve been sorta doing a fly on the wall thing lately. Didn’t know anyone noticed I was gone ^_^

  • jreed3842

    So! Mogoskier! I need to know how your audition went! I’ve been so nervous/excited for you all day!
    Let me know how you did!

  • Kit the Coyote

    Ahh the male bonding of a shared experience

  • “Panti’s Noble Call”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXayhUzWnl0#t=26

    Perfectly brilliant. She asks herself, “What gives ‘the gay’ away?”

    Sometimes, I know some of you wonder why some of us go on endlessly about “GAY” stuff and why it all seems just as important as feminism, racism, or oppression of any kind. How anything, from how we think of ourselves as men (Kyle right now?), to how we dress and represent ourselves matter. It can effect us all.

    One of Ireland’s most famous Drag artists and gay rights activists says it perfectly in this speech. When does the invisible enveloping hatred one grows up with turn into self-hate.

    Oppression perfectly defined. Fat, thin, white, any color, straight, gay, ugly, or just not pretty enough? What do you allow to oppress you? And oh how you loathe yourself for letting yourself be affected so.

    Perfectly expressed. Brava.

    One day, long ago, someone called me a fag. Not such a rare shock for a gay person, but I’m not super flamboyant. Often, people don’t know, until I quite obviously refer to my husband or something that is undeniably gay.

    Anyway, I just remember being in the right mood and, after pretending to ponder the statement, I said, “You know that’s true, everything they say fags do… I’ve done. So, there you go.” I leaned in close (I’m not huge, but I’m not tiny either) and said, “Now, never speak to me again.” And I walked off…

    That was an example of my most perfect day. What she describes about the wondering inside… what gives ‘the gay’ away? I do that on most other days of my life and I hate that!

    Video is brilliant.

    • I started to cry at 5:38.

      This was wonderful, Chris. Thanks for sharing.

    • jreed3842

      Thank you for sharing that.

    • Thank you very much for sharing.

    • steelie

      Thank you for sharing both the video and your own experience. I continue to hope and pray and work for a day when our genders or sexual preferences or skin color or whatever “undesirable” characteristics no longer lead us to hate or question ourselves.

  • Adam Black

    I bear gifts,
    Admiral Jane , Gryphongirl2 , Holly , SofiaT Sapfo

    um and whoever else might have a thing for Loki….

    http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/loki-writes-slash-fiction-because-of-course-he-does

    NOW ITS Marvel CANNON! The headlines says it all but go read it…

    http://marvel.com/comics/issue/48514/loki_agent_of_asgard_2014_1

    “Old God – New Trickster!
    Kid Loki’s all grown up – and the God of
    Mischief is stronger, smarter, sexier and just plain sneakier than ever
    before. As Asgardia’s one-man secret service, he’s ready to…..”

    ..”Loki, brother of Thor, spy for Asgard, god of mischief, has written slash fan fiction. It’s Cap/Iron Man, right? We are going to peruse Archive of Our Own for the rest of the day and unearth it. Farewell, noble friends.”

  • Adam Black

    I bear gifts,
    @admiraljane:disqus , @Gryphongirl2:disqus , @disqus_5yYGRkSeuL:disqus , @disqus_P2huBPd9nS:disqus @smsif:disqus

    um and whoever else might have a thing for Loki….

    http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/loki-writes-slash-fiction-because-of-course-he-does
    ….loki-writes-slash-fiction-because-of-course-he-does

    NOW ITS Marvel CANNON! The headlines says it all but go read it…

    http://marvel.com/comics/issue/48514/loki_agent_of_asgard_2014_1

    “Old God – New Trickster!
    Kid Loki’s all grown up – and the God of
    Mischief is stronger, smarter, sexier and just plain sneakier than ever
    before. As Asgardia’s one-man secret service, he’s ready to…..”

    ..”Loki, brother of Thor, spy for Asgard, god of mischief, has written slash fan fiction. It’s Cap/Iron Man, right? We are going to peruse Archive of Our Own for the rest of the day and unearth it. Farewell, noble friends.”

    • Oh god… AB goes mad on AO3… the headlines are in! Awesome.

      • Adam Black

        AO3? Nevermind I looked it up

        • Spent $2 to buy that volume of LOKI… it starts with Loki in the shower… I’ll report in as I get further.

          And yes, friends, be calm. There are LOTS of soap suds. Way too many soap suds.

    • Ha, ha, ha! This is sooo great! Thanks for sharing, Adam. Nice bright spot to my otherwise sleepy day.

    • Sapfo

      I love gifts! Thank you Adam!
      I don’t understand why people think I am talking about music when I say the word slash o.o

      • And it all started eons ago with Kirk/Spock. The inner geek in all of us has to love that!

        • Sapfo

          Kind uncle Chris, tell the history of slash. it’s my favorite story. ^_^

          • Jamie Dutton

            Storytime, storytime! Oh anyone want some birthday cake? It’s devil’s chocolate food and Police Box blue !

          • Sapfo

            Yay!
            Happy birthday Jamie, may your time in hell be short. Give Laampros a big kiss 😉

          • Jamie Dutton

            Thanks Sapfo. I just posted a pick of my Tardis cake, so I should be safe from any further trips to hell.

      • SofiaT

        Ah! I guess you are too young to remember Guns n’ Roses?

    • Jamie Dutton

      thank you for the gift, Adam! 😀

    • SofiaT

      Oh Adam, that was pure awesome. 😀

  • Adam Black

    For all my fans, followers, future lovers*, friends , Yaoigirls, gay boys, Token ( but curious ) straight boys, Het Romancer Women, amazing illustrators, Fabulous Author ( s) , Coffee Roasters, Villain_shippers, Swedish Kilters, Anatomy professors and Anataomy , professionals, slashfans, Young Protectors and Whovians

    Please forgive me if I totally ignore you and dont respond to your comments. I know there are a few and I really tried
    its not my fault
    My connection to the internet is the ******worst in the world, *******
    ZOMG.,been disconnected hundreds of times today )

    and the Revised Disqus dashboard is totally nonfunctional!
    WTF( Please go to Disqus and complain )
    https://www.surveymonkey.com/Home_Landing.aspx?sm=Dg%2bbIyh%2faH2lYIevmAGUc18Z5NReTYi4adGvOwn5U%2fc%3d

    (* i dont discriminate against teh sexy… )

    • *hugs Adam* I will pray to the internet connection deity to improve your internet availability.

    • You are the dude.

      I know I enjoy your comments, even when they don’t seem to recognize how incredibly wise and witty I am. I blame that on the connection too. *grins*

      Good luck my friend.

      *chris goes to wreak havoc on survey monkey*

      • Adam Black

        awesome.

        its always the connections fault. Or disqus

        I am as blameless as a thing that has no shame, er I mean Blame

        Now go survey the shite out of that monkey,

        —and spank it, if it gives you any lip.

    • Sapfo

      Our very own evil genius/bear hugging friend. Miss you when you are not here.

      • Adam Black

        workin now

        • Sapfo

          Adam,
          I sent you a mail. You might want to read it.

    • Adam, I tore that Disqus surveymonkey a new one after talking it over with Danish and Sapfo last week on Twitter…Danish and Sapfo also tweeted their most pointed concerns to Disqus directly.

      Hopefully, we will see some improvements soon.

    • Oh gawd, I so agree about the dashboard. As Gryph said, I already told them my clear and honest opinion last week, and I told gryph where she could do it too.

      Me no like the new design! As I told them, why change something that already worked. The improvements doesn’t make up for the mess they’ve made with the rest.
      You guys know how I react just when someone changes their avatar (again).. now how do you think I react when settings are changed to worse LOL

  • amanda

    spooky and kyle related some how????

  • Adam Irving

    That’s a good beginning to any heart-to-heart: “so, let me tell you about the time that *I* went to hell…”

  • Jamie Dutton

    I had a great birthday and DIDN’T get sent to Hell! Yaaaaay! Lol, did get some nice gifts and cash. Thank ya’ll for all the birthday wishes. Love this community so much!
    Oh and here’s a pic of my cake…..*boots up Dr. Who theme*

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/qr0u4q63hbfm8ae/my%20Tardis%20birthday%20cake.jpg

    • jreed3842

      Awesome cake!! 😀
      And I’m glad you had a wonderful birthday!! And I’m VERY glad you didn’t get sent to Hell.

      • Jamie Dutton

        Thanks jreed

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      I want a cake like that for my next birthday! AWESOME!

    • Sapfo

      Cake for everyone 😀

  • Sapfo

    Jeremy, love the fanart. Hot indeed 🙂

  • Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    There are possibly two keys? Or perhaps she failed.
    I like the two key idea. He could have opened the doorway there. HOWEVER he needed the other key in order to let Laampros out.
    Two keys.
    Two virgins.

    • Lesson: Always leave a spare key through the walls of Blood & Pain under the flower pot on the back porch. Honestly….

    • Steven K.

      Though I think there ARE two literal/actual/physical keys (things that look ostensibly like physical keys, though they would seem to have mystical and/or energetic properties) – Duncan showed Laampros one (contained in that sphere), and I think he made reference to the other, if I’m not mistaken.

  • SofiaT

    You people are unbelievable. Double ding last week and already half-way through the donation bar again!
    Can’t believe the amazing readers this comic has… or maybe I can, after all Alex is this good.
    ugghhhh… I wish I could contribute too!

    • Saxon_Brenton

      It makes me wonder if Alex might become reluctant to tell us that he’s going away for the weekend in case we go doing crazy things, just because, again… Or alternatively pretend he’s going away for the weekend – while keeping a fire extinguisher and first aid kit on hand – just to see what we get up to…

  • Nate

    *blink*

    You bastard. 🙂

  • Sapfo

    <..>
    Am I the only one how feel like locking Paul and Mitch away. Somewhere really safe.
    I am sure that they can entertain themselves for a few years or so 😉

    • alyssia

      now we are talking about teahouse

  • Sapfo
    • Stop telling me what I want to see Hollywood! You don’t know me!!!

      • I feel the same and ironically my solution is to read more and watch less.

        I know publishing has many of the same problems, but the freedom of the interwebs has pushed them further faster. Hollywood is still struggling with very old models in creation, execution and marketing.

        So, my gut says you are going to be frustrated with television and film more and longer than you will be with literary sources. Still, it’s all a matter of degree.

        • Well it is also one of the reasons I have been watching more and more anime and Japanese and Korean dramas. I really need to watch that one drama again and type up a rec for it in my journal.

          • alyssia

            for the Korean dramas u should watch playful kiss!! or boys with flowers

          • I have watched quite a bit of Boys Before Flowers, but not all of it. And I have seen a little bit of Playful Kiss. You Are Beautiful was really good. Creating Destiny, Scent of a Woman (I cried quite a few times in this one).

          • alyssia

            dawwwwwwwwww u is soooooo cute I could just eat you * hides knife behind back*

          • I wasn’t able to finish 49 Days, but that one was promising, I will have to add that of the list of things to finish watching after I get my current projects finished. I lost my place in a lot of things when I lost Netflix *cries*

          • alyssia

            I could not life if my Netflix was gone

          • It is unbearably rough…..almost like life without the internet…

          • alyssia

            almost now try to imagine life with out yaoi

          • ……*hugs her yaoi manga closely* NEVER!!!

          • alyssia

            GROUP HUG!!*grabs her own yaoi mangas and hugs u with them also*

          • I feel the yaoi love. ^_^

          • alyssia

            yeaaaaaa now we sleep !!!!!!! untill tomorrow friend!!!

          • Night and sweet dreams!

    • Fascinating!

      Of course if you want your head to explode, you can read the comments and suffocate in the nerdgassing.

      • alyssia

        its like epic nerd rage !!!

  • bronakopdin

    whaaaaaaaat OMG! I first need to swallow the information…

  • Kattriella

    Ah, hell, my birthday is in four days . . . Should I head to the bunker now?

    • Kyletin

      It is too late. Head to Walgreens to pick up ample supplies of sunblock and water bottles. It is going to be a warm birthday.

      Also: “Ah, hell,” indeed. ;D

  • ren

    My birthday is today. *gulp*

    • bronakopdin

      Happy Birthday 🙂

    • Happy Birthday!

    • alyssia

      HAPPY MOTHERFUCKNG BIRTHDAY!!!!

    • Happy Birthday!!

    • jreed3842

      Happy birthday!! I hope it’s wonderful!
      And… If you do get sent to Hell, tell Laampros I said hi, and can you get me the autograph of the Giant Floating Eyeball?!

      • Sapfo

        Oh I would love one of thouse also!

      • ren

        I will be sure to do that.

    • Terri Sutton

      Happy BDay.

    • SofiaT

      Happy Hell-free birthday to you! 😀

    • Happy birthday, ren! 🙂

    • Jac

      Just watch out for any muscle-bound silver foxes, and you should be ok.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Happy birthday!

      • ren

        You guys are so sweet 😀

        • b3nc0

          Happy belated & all that jazz (づ◠‿◠)づ✿

  • SofiaT

    Ya know, with that color uniform, Fluke should from this day forth be known as “Buns of [Blue] Steel”.

    Because of the color of course, no other reason.

  • Klaus

    It has just been revealed that Kyle’s last name is Conlen

    • I came here to tell that too 😀

      And his power focuses are hands, feet and genitalia (involuntary)
      .. so uhm.. it’s still a regular question if he really does shoot fire when ejaculating? *lol*

      And let me say, Dayum, the guy can get hot!

      (Alex made a Kickstarter update that showed the design of Kyle’s Powers trading card)

      • SofiaT

        I read your comment on my phone and came in to ask what did I miss. But then I saw the edit. Cool!

        • Name: Kyle Conlen
          Birthplace: Unknown
          Power Source: Theological
          Primary Power: Fire manipulation
          Secondary Power: Fire manipulation, fire absorption, heat resistance.
          Power Focus: Hands, feet, genitalia (involuntary)
          Max. heat generated: 1093 C (celcius)
          Max. range: 106m

          • Klaus

            The first secondary power is fire generation.

          • Woops, yes I saw that and just made an edit 🙂

          • Valja

            I’m curious about that “theological”. I’d have thought the source of his power was “fiendish” or “daemonic” or… well…

          • But aren’t demons a part of theology too? God, devils, angels, demons and such.

          • Valja

            You’re right 🙂 I meant that I found curious the choice of naming it “theological” instead of “demonic”… Errr I don’t know how to explain myself here ^^” I mean that maybe there’s something we still don’t know about Kyle!

          • SofiaT

            Demons are part of theology though… and of course, there’s still the question of who his mother is.

          • Valja

            Yes yes I know 🙂 I meant the choice of the name used (read below) 😀

          • SofiaT

            Thank you for the intel!!

            And… 1093C? Wow. Hot enough to melt most metals.

          • Valja

            Hot enough to hurt Anni’s arm, also 😉

          • Klaus

            I doubt it. I the prologue Kyle’s fire does not even pain him. Hell weakens Duncan. It may also strengthen Kyle. Or maybe being near Laampros strengthen him. I don’t think Kyle should depend on being able to harm Duncan when they next meet. On the other hand, Duncan should not depend on being invulnerable to Kyle either.

          • Valja

            You have a point, I had not considered that they were in Hell. But hey, Kyle’s still young and in training, I’m hoping for a massive (though gradual) power-up of our Young Protectors!

          • Klaus

            Here is a spoiler: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexwoolfson/the-young-protectors-vol-1-0
            Read second paragraph if you want to know whether you will get your wish.

          • SofiaT

            Do we know if the powers max. capacity in the cards is for the current powers the heroes have or the powers they’ll have once they reach their full potential?

          • These are Engaging the Enemy cards, so they reflect the characters’s abilities at the start of the Engaging the Enemy arc. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Gotcha! Thanks 🙂

          • Steven K.

            I guess that confirms that there was actually fire streaming out of Kyle’s penis during his orgasm. It was a horrible situation in which to be having one however, though Duncan mentioned the even-more-enhanced pleasure due the spell. I wonder if we’ll ever get any comment from Kyle how he actually felt physically during that emotionally painful but physically hyper-pleasurable time. Was he in heavenly (well, hellishly, actually) ecstasy with several-times increase in normal pleasure and with an orgasm that just seemed to go on for at least – what – a quarter-hour or something (while he was having this incredible release of fire and energy from his male parts as well as his other extremities)? That sounds like a pretty amazing physical/sexual experience (I wouldn’t mind feeling that way at least once in my life) – too bad it had to be under such a scary and emotionally and psychologically traumatizing set of circumstances. That could really mess up a fellow – with such an association of intense physical/sexual pleasure and release with emotional and psychological trauma and fear. We actually didn’t get any indication if Kyle was actually climaxing and continuing to feel pleasure down there in his fire-spewing parts throughout the whole Laampros encounter. Having an extended orgasm while actually meeting for the first time and being ogled and caressed and kissed by your very intimidating and scary-looking father while you are bound and naked could also lead to some potentially very messed up and creepy psycho-sexual thoughts and associations. It must have been very awkward to say the least. I kinda wish I could be Kyle’s unofficial psychoanalyst – so I could ask and hear about all of what Kyle was thinking and feeling during his experience, and then comfort him in all the ways I could – maybe offering him the chance to help him control his powers “down there” while he is orgasming – maybe using some specially built fireproof facilities – coaching Kyle through things while he was getting off, from within some protective chamber or wearing some protective gear. Then, once I’ve helped Kyle get off many times to the point where I also help him control his fire-output while doing so, and it’s safe to be with him physically while he climaxes – then offer to give him the type of experience he SHOULD have had with Duncan and that he so desperately deserves – so then we can start on the next phase of his psycho-sexual recovery: starting to associate sexual release with good emotional feelings of being cared for and with love and affection and joy and happiness – actually being made love to by someone that truly cares, and inducing such pleasure in a totally positive and loving set of circumstances, so he’ll lose all those previously painful and creepy associations with sex and pleasure.

          • Klaus

            Such a spell could well be addictive.

          • Klaus

            We have seen him use his powers twice. Both times it startet with flames from his eyes.

          • Hmmm…..so he could technically use his feet as jets to fly…..

            …..He really needs to go train with either Zuko or Uncle Iroh. ^_^ Just thing of all the cool things he would be able to do with fire then. ^_^

          • Now I have the urge to go watch Avatar: The Last Airbender…….

    • SofiaT

      Name of Irish origin (an Irish redhead? Noooo!) which means “hero”.
      Very fitting.

      • Valja

        Wow, really? That’s cool! I also like the sound of the whole name. Kyle Conlen. I love alliterations 🙂

      • Klaus

        The Irish redhead is a stereotype even in Denmark, though redheads are more common here than in Ireland. In Ireland red hair is a rather sure sign of Viking ancestry. No less so in Denmark, obviously.

        • Valja

          Irish redhead is a stereotype almost everywhere, I suppose 😉 Together with Scottish redhead. Didn’t know about Denmark having so many redheads! I’ve always though the average Danish person to be… idk, blond/ash blonde, tall and with light skin? Don’t know why though 🙂

          • It’s not that Denmark has a lot of natural redheads, but it’s not an unusual color either.
            As for blonds, I think that’s more a Swedish stereotypical thing, you know the blond and blue eyed 🙂
            I’ll say that Denmark is about an equal mix of various blond and brunette colors – maybe even a little more in the dark blond/brunette end. The light skin idk how to judge, but we ARE a country lying more north, so we probably are more light skinned than some.

          • Sapfo

            *look at my family*
            o.o
            Hair: jupp blonde, blonde, blonde, brunett, blonde.
            Eyes: jupp, blue, blue, blue, blue, brown, blue

            I don´t know many with brown eyes.

          • Valja

            LOL
            Danish/Swedish people: the elves of our world.
            Take this, Thranduil! xD

          • Klaus

            Oh yes. Blond is more common than red. BTW I now realize that red hair being more common hear than in Ireland is something i got from a source wich is not always reliable. Claus Deleurant’s Illustreret Danmarkshistorie for Folket.

          • Valja

            Don’t worry, I wouldn’t have known anyway 😉 I tried to take a look at the source you mentioned but, aehm, language issue here ^^”

        • SofiaT

          It’s the “hero” part I focused on.
          It rulz!

        • b3nc0

          For what it’s worth here’s a map of redhead frequency in Europe: http://www.boredpanda.com/fun-maps-they-didnt-teach-you-in-school/
          Gotta scroll down a bit it’s the second map.

          • Klaus

            Thanks. So I was entirely wrong there.

      • b3nc0

        Etymologically that would give the hero of the prairie… In last week’s hero name code thing, that would turn our Red Hot into Fire Thing!

  • So.. this and that coming up in the last couple of days has meant that I’m really late on actually commenting the page, and since I’ve hardly read any comments either this might have been said a time.. or ten.

    First and quick, let me say that I really like Paul’s slightly raised eyebrow in panel 1. It shows that questioning acceptance when he’ll do as asked.. told.

    So Spooky was sent to hell too, most likely on his 18th birthday – boy, talk about a hell ride to adulthood xD
    My guess is still on Sircei since she’s been of enough importance that Spooky has told Kyle about her – and not good things.

    More than ever do I want to know about Spooky’s origin, and I really hope we get a lot of info on these next pages!
    Rather than writing a longer comment (as I would have if the new page hadn’t been merely hours away) I’ll wait to expand my theories and thinking from earlier pages about this until we get the new page, and hopefully a lot of facts/hints to Spooky’s experience.

    I’M SO CURIOUS!!

    So now I’ll go get some sleep, and be back for camp in a few hours 🙂
    Until then ….

    • Klaus

      18th? Where did you get that from?

      • The legal age where who ever sent Spooky to hell wouldn’t get chased down and punished.
        Unless, of course, the circumstances of Spooky going to hell wasn’t similar to Kyle’s at all, and it wasn’t a trap, then it might have happened earlier as part of a test (of abilities/powers?).
        Since Spooky is 20 now, I doubt it happened later than when he was 18 for it to fit into the timeline.

        So deducting from info given about ‘rules’ and Spooky’s age, I went with 18 as the most logical age so far- until we know more.

        • b3nc0

          I wasn’t sure then and still ain’t that the untouchable under-18 heroes rule was indeed a rule… It could have been part of Duncan’s seducing of Kyle…
          Beside that, the point of how PP could have teleported Spooky to Hell brings this interesting idea: Spooky might be the son of a Hell’s King too?!

          • Klaus

            We may find out in a few hours. Then again, we may not.

  • b3nc0

    I’m in the same predicament as Danish and it seems to happen on every page nowadays so just 2 points here:

    Mitch is soooo far & desperately silent (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

    In addition to showing reserved acceptance/obedience, Paul’s face has a bit of a warning signal: “I know what you have in mind, but don’t you dare & stole my baybee, you can’t encroach on a friend’s territory.” ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

    • ….how do you make/get those emoticons?

      • b3nc0

        I actually stole them anytime I saw one I like, I copy/pasted it on my special emoticons file… Where the mystery becomes mysterious is I started doing this after asking someone hwo/where did he make/get emoticons & he answered me he actually steal them, anytime he sees one he likes, he copi

  • bronakopdin

    ok to distract me from thinking about his more until tomorrow and the next page I will only stare at Paul’s nice a$$ for the rest of the time…

  • silibub

    You know, say what you want about digital books somehow ruining the purity of the reading experience, but their existence saved my ass twice this week! I feel like that one guy who’s always in your hometown in Pokemon games: “Technology is incredible!” Haa…

    Hope everyone’s doing well! I’m so geared up for this page, you have idea.

    • Agreed. I take a library with me everywhere I go… and a small spritzer of Harvard Essence “old parchment cologne.” Thus, I feel like I’m in the old library at school every time I open my iPad. It’s awesome. 😉

      • Amanda

        I love my Ipad, I want to find an anatomically correct Ken doll, and turn it into a person Ala’ Weird Science.

      • silibub

        It’s so great to have reading material at hand as long as I’ve got my phone on me. I still like reading physical books (and it’s nice that they don’t run on batteries), but I don’t agree with the over-romanticization of them.

        • All are good. I used to carry a tote of unread books around. Now my back is happier. Still I agree and have lots of traditional paper around looking at me, giving me guilt and waiting to be read.

          Oh and did I mention the ability to make fonts larger when eyes get weary? Well we’ll talk about that another day then. 🙂

          • Elrohir

            To Silibub’s point I struggled a bit going to e-readers. First on my laptop, then phones, then I got a Kindle for a gift, and iPad and now a Kindle Paperwhite. This was a big change for a guy who has over 3000 books in hardcopy that I refuse to part with. But having a whole library with me is awesome.

            To Chris’ point, I was struggling because of my business travel. Taking a number of books with me for a multi week trip because it wasn’t always easy to find English books that I wanted/liked while on the road (I am not fluent enough in any other language to really read). But books are just thinly disguised trees. And once a year or so I would tweak my back and spend a week doing a reasonable Walter Brennan impersonation (old school character actor for you younglings). Technology has proven its worth time and again in this case for me. And the way Amazon’s reader synchs between my devices means that I don’t have to worry about which one I pick up at which point (as long as there is network access) plus the online library let’s me re-read stuff (a habit I admit).

            So, if you see somebody sitting in the sun in front of Peet’s Coffee reading a Kindle with a gorgeous green leather cover (I didn’t think of Chris’ scent trick so I went with texture) from the very nice folks at http://oberondesign.com/

            (shameless plug for a favorite store) take a risk and say hi! It might be me. 🙂

          • I haven’t done a count of my books, but I easily have at the very lest a few hundred…..making an inventory of them is on that to do list that I keep meaning to work on….and keeps getting longer….

          • Elrohir

            Yeah, I keep wanting to do that. Somebody here mentioned an app called FILM to do this for your discs. I’m wondering if anybody has a really good recommendation for a library equivalent.

          • I know some people are very enthusiastic about Delicious Library.

          • Elrohir

            Thank you Alex, I’ll give it a look. It seems pretty all inclusive from the first glance of the website. I appreciate the pointer.

  • b3nc0

    I don’t know if Doki will post sunset pics during camping but I wanted to contribute, then couldn’t make it in time to catch it… Still, the sky was purty, so here are some views from me hometown under shining sky: https://plus.google.com/photos/114661535605160092496/albums/5982918495906375601
    if you wanna take the time & have good eyes i bet you could find my hometown & by triangulation my house

  • Simba

    Hullo! I am super excites to hear Spooky’s hell story… Marshmellows and kettle corn all around!

    • Yay! Kettle Corn!!!!

    • Holly

      I HAVE BROUGHT CHOCOLATE AND GRAHAM CRACKERS! We may now have s’mores.

      (Also due to me trying to get to bed at more reasonable times, and my not sleeping well last night, not sure how long I will camp)

      • Awwww *hugs Holly* What am I going to do without you?

        • Holly

          Well for now I am here. So fear not. *pats doki*

  • For @b3nc0:disqus and any others that like my sunset pictures. https://plus.google.com/photos/118082431292164101352/albums/5965552982912125217/5983041921639030370?pid=5983041921639030370&oid=118082431292164101352

    There are some from the 19th, 20th and 21st. ^_^ Do not be afraid to comment or +1 on any of them. ^_^

  • Holly

    *settles in to camp while knitting a dish cloth*

    • mogoskier

      What material do you use to do that. I imagine it can’t be wool because that not a great absorber.

      • jreed3842

        Mogoskier!! I’ve been thinking about you all week! How did the audition go?!

        • mogoskier

          I went well. I ended up choosing Izzy monologue from the rabbit hole (which was really good play thanks for the suggestion). I did sides with another girl where she was my mom and I was 6, and then the director ask me to read for another part. Call backs didn’t happen yet but it felt good.

          • jreed3842

            Awesome! I’m so glad you enjoyed the play, and I’m glad you found a good monologue to do.
            Break a leg at callbacks! Keep me informed! I’ve been so nervous/excited for you. Haha!

        • Holly

          …Jreed you have just reminded me that I am supposed to be off book for the play i’m in by Sunday. -_-”

          • jreed3842

            Haha! How close are you to being off book?
            And what play are you doing?

          • Holly

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

            The Elephant’s Graveyard. Have you heard of it?

          • jreed3842

            I can’t say I have! But I just googled a Synopsis of it, and it sounds really good.
            Are you enjoying it?

          • Holly

            Um… Well Due to snow storms we haven’t had Wednesday rehearsals in weeks. Nor mondays for other reasons. So we have only been having one rehearsal a week and that is making the directors a little antsy. PLUS, It’s all monologues to the crowd so it’s hard to know how to act.

          • jreed3842

            Ahhh! Okay! Well, I hope it comes together for you.
            I did a play where it was nothing but monologues… it was one of my least favorite shows that I have ever been in. I don’t like it because there’s really no one to interact with. Like, you don’t have a partner that can give you energy and vice-versa… I hope you have a better time with it than I did. Haha.

          • Holly

            I have 5 monologues then random lines that kind of fit into the narrative. It’s weird. but yeah the problem is that I have no one to play off of.

            Also, one of the actors is stepping on a VERY IMPORTANT stage direction which is screwing me up. Basically the ringmaster says he’s waiting for my signal, I give the signal, then he says his next line. But he’s going “You wait for the signal. this is the other line” Instead of “You wait for the signal” I DO THE SIGNAL “This is the line.” And it’s directors orders not to correct our costars.

            ONE MONTH TO CURTAIN.

          • jreed3842

            Oh wow…. Dang, well I hope the Ringmaster get’s his shit together!
            I have faith in you! 😀

          • Holly

            Well I think the thing is he learned the line as a chunk maybe. I don’t know. As I’m not allowed to discuss it with him.

            The problem is that it’s a monologue play with random lines as well as proper monologues. Plus it’s all in DIALECT. I mean, That is the worst part.

          • jreed3842

            Ahhh! Yeah. It’s kind of strange that the director won’t let you discuss things, especially if it will help correct something.
            Well… Hopefully things will pull together! I’m sure you guys will have an awesome show!

          • b3nc0

            Break a leg! that’s how you wish well in english for someone in a show? i’m not being rude?

          • Holly

            NO that is what you say to wish an actor well in english. ^_^

      • Holly

        You use Cotton.

  • SofiaT

    Ever since we found out (thanks @disqus_8gizXhsHgE:disqus and @DanishWolf:disqus!) about Kyle’s power card, I have so many questions… the first of which is: who gave him his name??

    • Same! Like ..was he found under circumstances where someone said he was a little hero for surviving? That could be an option.. but not knowing anything, it’s probably something else.

      • SofiaT

        I had just never considered Kyle’s last name before. He was just Kyle. But a last name is a family name. Kyle had no known family until he found out who his father is. It makes me even more curious to find out about his mother.

        • From what I know (could be wrong), a possible orphant at an orphanage sometimes is given a last name there to be be baptised for the system. The name could be something that referes to the orphanage or the place/circumstances he was found.
          He lived at a foster family later. That’s all we know so far.

          • Everybody ignored me when I suggested the well documented, long used classic… Laamprosson.

            VERY red-haired Viking! (Clearly Alex has his own ideas… go figure.)

          • Elrohir

            Umm…the naming convention is sound, but I think you’ve made him a Swedish Viking…or at least I’m told the original surnames were -son in Swedish and -sen in Danish/Norwegian. As explaining the variation of Larson vs Larsen. But I also suspect that those lines are very, very much blurred these days with all the crossing between the Scandic countries.
            Maybe it’s like when immigrants came to the US and their original surnames get modified by clerks at the entry port?
            “Laamprosson?!?! What the Hell kind of name is Laamprosson?!?! Let’s give him a good American name!”
            Okay, couldn’t resist the gimmick in that first line of the dialogue…sorry…sometimes when the voices are rambling…data just get’s presented…

    • Sapfo

      Alex?! 😉

      • SofiaT

        😛

      • Point and score for that one 😉

    • silibub

      Ooh, good question! My guess is his mother was human, and died either during or shortly after childbirth (I can’t imagine delivering a hell king’s baby is a picnic), but did manage to name Kyle before her death.

      • SofiaT

        Human or maybe also of Theological nature?
        The hypothesis that she could be an angel has been mentioned before. Of course that would make Kyle 0% human instead of 50% *scratches head* :0/

        • silibub

          I mainly figure Kyle had a human mother because he appears so human — although there’s always the possibility it’s some kind of glamor. The poor kid might actually be sporting a glorious pair of horns for all we know!

          eta: Although if Kyle’s mom does turn out to be an angel, I wonder if Kyle has other, angelic powers he doesn’t know about yet?

          • Sapfo

            But what if he needed more then just human to look human.

          • Elrohir

            And to your point of a glamor, what if at some stage he’s going to develop wings? I always had a special place in my heart for X-Men’s Angel. Umm…maybe…potentially…sort of… 🙂

        • Well his mother could have been half angel half human?

        • Elrohir

          I think I may have mentioned this one before, it’s a favorite theory of mine. After all, if you’re a “King of Hell” then wouldn’t one of your big kicks be taking something pure and marking it/destroying it? So, fathering a child on an angel would be in keeping with the concept. It’s an intriguing concept to me.
          And in the back of my head one of the voices is whispering that perhaps his mother sacrificed herself to physically free Kyle from Hell and get him to earth to be raised by humans.
          As for the zero percent human, well, I can think of one proof point for that. When he tells Duncan that after his first orgasmic fire incident at age 12 he hasn’t “dared to, not even with myself.” pretty much puts Kyle in angel territory for me. I can’t speak for every male, in this discussion, but I can remember my teenage years and there were days when going 6 hours was hell, never mind waiting 6 YEARS! OMG!!
          **Wait, was that out loud? Inside voice, must use the inside voice!”**
          And I still don’t understand, since he appears to have mostly normal (well, I think SOME of us might agree, GLORIOUSLY NORMAL) human physiology I still can’t understand how even if he had the self control, there wouldn’t have been issues with his wet dreams. But perhaps that’s a bit too detailed a question. Puzzling though…Thoughts?

      • mogoskier

        I’m hoping Kyle mom is actually another demon. It would be cool to have a superhero who a full demon and still be good because of themselves and not because half there DNA says they are.

        • SofiaT

          That would be pretty cool actually.
          Evil is a choice, not something you’re born in.

          Although I’m not sure Kyle would look at it the same way…

          • Nope. You are entirely wrong. I was born with contrary DNA, so I can’t help my behavior.

            Otherwise I’d be perfect… I just know it.

            It’s the DNA! 😛

          • Elrohir

            ** Picturing Chris as a kid saying:
            “Sorry about the lamp mom! I know you told me not to run in the house. But I can’t help it. It’s these darn chromosomes!”**

            Truly a product of his environment. 🙂

      • Steven K.

        Well, Kyle physically is pretty close to human, so no reason to suspect that his birth should have provided any …err…conformational or logistical issues while being extruded – since he seems pretty normal now, no reason to think he was not, in form, like a normal human baby. Of course if he tends to shoot fire also during uncontrollably emotional or traumatic episodes (as well as orgasmic ones), that could have been a problem (birth probably being, in one form or another, traumatic for the neonate) if baby Kyle came out all wrapped in swaddling flames. Gosh – what a horrible emotional thing for Kyle as well if he knew that his fire damaged or even killed his mom during childbirth. That, on top of everything else Kyle has been through and has had to deal with, is just too tragic and painful to think about. *Eyes starting to fill with tears*

        • Elrohir

          Wow…I had not actually even considered that till you mentioned it. I’m in the camp of really hoping that in addition to everything else he feels guilty for Kyle doesn’t have to feel guilty about his mother dying in child birth. And especially not if “Special Circumstances” were involved.

  • Joins camp *yawns big* .. good morning from Denmark.

    • Morning Danish!

    • Sapfo

      Good morning Denmark. Still hanging on down there 🙂

    • Holly

      We are yawning from the opposite side of sleep. I will probably not make it to the new page

  • Sapfo

    Good morning everyone.

    Just woke up to birdsong again (ulike earlyer tonight when it was Cough Cough Cough 😛 )

    • Sapfo! *hugs*

      • Sapfo

        Thank, love a good hug. ^_^

        • Sapfo, will you do me favor of taking way my scissors? I have been randomly cutting at my hair A LOT today.

          • Sapfo

            Do you need to cut more? o.O
            if not, then stop!

          • Well, you know how sometimes you cut something, and then you like cutting it so you just want to cut more?

            Like cutting into a fresh piece of construction paper….after that first cut, just want to keep cutting…

          • Sapfo

            then you should stop right now. You might regrett it later on. And if you want to cut it more. there is always tomorrow.

          • It is actually more of a “hide all the scissors in the house before I do something to my hair that I would need a professional to fix”

          • Sapfo

            I am kind of the wrong person to ask for help. I cut my own hair whenever I feel like it. But You asked me to stop you. There for I think you want to stop now. So put them down and let the hair be

          • Well I figured, if you took the scissors, I wouldn’t be able to get them so easy. 😛 ^_^

          • Sapfo

            Good Luck? ^_^

    • Holly

      I might be off to bed soon Sapfo :/

      HI THOUGH.

      • Sapfo

        Hello Holly.
        You do whats best for you. I can take care of the virgin for you. Don´t you worry dear.

        • Holly

          GRR

          • Don’t worry, it will probably go to Danish.

          • Sapfo

            Nopp ^_^

          • Holly

            You should really sleep longer better for your health. Especially on the weekend.

          • Nope, I was distracted by replying to Sofia with theories 😉

    • Morning Sapfo!

      • Sapfo

        Good morning AJ!

  • Sapfo
  • Zeruk

    What Spooks is trying to say is… “We’ve both been to hell,we should date!”