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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Three—Page 70

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Kyle has been quiet and folks have been wondering what’s on Kyle’s mind. Well, this is what’s on Kyle’s mind. 🙂

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So! Kyle wants to save the people. Commander makes an assumption. And a plan begins to be formed. Is she right in her assumption? And what’s her plan going to be?

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  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    🙂

  • Sapfo

    A new page and this is my 4004 comment on TYP. Thank you Alex for a great comic and a great community.
    (this was suppose to be comment nr 4000, but I lost count XD)

    • Thank you for being such a great part of our community here, Sapfo! 🙂

  • Risky plan.. let’s see how it goes 🙂

    (YAY! Just the right time I got my internet connection back)

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    They are going for the Stargate.

  • But you know, it also saves people!

    • Terri Sutton

      I really want to reply to all of the comments with that.

  • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

    So…carbon exists in other dimensions?

    • Terri Sutton

      Or something that greatly resembles carbon.

      • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

        A byproduct of hellfire, no doubt!

  • silibub

    So…no crashing the plane into the hoop, then? Fiiiine.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Now we know what the stargate is!

    • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

      Notice that Spooky is guessing.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    They’re gonna egg it, aren’t they?

    • Terri Sutton

      And toilet paper it, can’t forget the toilet paper.

  • ..’But also, y’know, saves people.’

    ^ Kyle wins the internet with that one.

  • So, is that cell Diamondium™ or Diamondillium™?

  • Sapfo

    There is a lot to take in on this page. Assuming can be dangerous. But let the commander be right.

    • I was about to say assumptions are never a safe thing.

      • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

        My first thought was that her “a priority” sounds less reassuring than Kyle’s “first objective.”

        • Well, it’s easy to agree with the idea of saving people when you can see they’re in danger. It’s a lot harder to try and put that fear aside and address a more abstract threat.
          Commander is focusing on the larger issue which is stopping the ritual. The “greater good”, if you will. Which, is arguably what P.P. and Anni are doing. Though a lot less kindly.

          • Terri Sutton

            But then that rises the question on how is the Commander any different to PP and Duncan?

          • Well, she’s working on the assumption that stopping the ritual will save the people. Also, she’s not directly harming anyone or putting people in harm’s way.
            P.P. and Anni took the further step. Rather than letting people get hurt to serve the greater good, they actively hurt people in the interest of the greater good. It’s a fine distinction, but an important one. Once you can justify murder as acceptable for a larger goal, you’ve thrown morals out the window.

          • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

            Maybe PP and Anni represent the greater good.

  • Steven K.

    I didn’t realize that ring was composed of bones – I thought it was an assemblage of electronic circuits and stuff. But that makes certain aspects of it’s appearance more logical – as in why it had little bits of material sticking out of it all over – I can see now that those were things like ribs, etc. However, the whole thing still looked more metallic to me than osseously-colored.

    • silibub

      I thought it was metal, too. I guess it could be plated in metal, but then how did Amanda know it’s bone from a distance?

      • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

        She’s been to a lot of concerts.

        • silibub

          Haha!

    • Terri Sutton

      Maybe the bones were too porous for the superglue?

      • Steven K.

        Actually, I know for a fact that super-glue will work with bone tissue. Part of my job is teaching in an anatomy lab, and sometimes the real bones that we have for demonstration get broken or damaged when students aren’t being as careful (or as respectful) as they should be. But that does pose a good question as to what was used to hold all those bones together in that ring – glue, chicken-wire, or just carefully interlocking them all together. Then there is the question of where they came from – and if human or goat or ?.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Maybe they killed a lot of people to get their bones?

        • Terri Sutton

          I kind of assumed that not all of the bones were “fresh”, superglue doesn’t work that well on dried bones.

          Before you ask, I am a crafty person who lives in a rural area.

          • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

            I was going to say that “osteopathy” totally isn’t what I thought it was.

          • Steven K.

            It also helps if they are clean and not dirty, etc. We use ones that have been bleached, etc. And there has to be a clean break without too much shattering or glue doesn’t work either.

  • Saxon_Brenton

    So, who has blast powers usable at range? We’ve seen that Red Hot is a candidate. Depending on exactly how his powers work, Tsunami might have an elemental attack that would be useful. Can Spooky cast zappy spells?

    • silibub

      And Mitch said that he’s been practicing using his powers to launch…something. He might play a key role here.

      • David Welbourn

        I’m sure Mitch’s powers will be key at some point. He could, for example, pick up the glass cage and fly away with it — if that would help. (He’d probably have to put the plane down first, though.)

        • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

          Wait a minute, that’s not a bird power! (“Eagle vision, owl hearing, and the telekenetic ability of a very psychic chicken.”)

          • Terri Sutton

            Or the strength of every crazy emu.

        • Samurai Jack

          Cassowary. They don’t get enough credit for being man-killing badasses.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        Grab a rock, accelerate real fast, let rock go: Flyboy Meteor Strike.
        It does raise interesting questions about how fast Mitch can fly, such as whether he could have flown Spooky’s car to the warehouse in chapter 2 faster but had to limit the speed to make such Spooky and Fluke could still breath… *sigh* I’m still hanging out for the Powers cards from the kickstarter.

        • IamM

          I think Mitch can accelerate objects by touch. Human mass-driver.

  • silibub

    Maybe the giant bone circle is a diversion and the real gate is activated when the timer goes off, and that’s why it’s so much more heavily fortified? I just worry that while Spooky and Amanda’s instincts are sound, the villainous duo has the wiliness and experience to plan way ahead.

    • Terri Sutton

      Ohh Genre Savvy villains, no good can come from such a thing.

      • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

        If the team wins, then the next two chapters can just be one long scene of them all watching porn.

        • Terri Sutton

          The interlude did not give us enough porn.

    • I think she’s hoping that P.P. and Anni assumed they would focus on saving the hostages and that’s why they put the most protection there.
      But I agree, it’s dangerous to assume that magic relies on objects in the physical world. Usually in these stories, the physical aspects create an anchor for the magic. Without them the magic becomes uncontrollable and dangerous, but still functional.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I can hear PP saying to the minions: “Bring me bones!”

    • EyeDontNo

      And they drag in Dr Leonard McCoy…

  • Adam Black

    what Kind of bones?

    Is there a world-of-god on this 0ssifcicary mystery ?

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Sacrificial virgins?

      • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

        Whose last wish was to be boned!

      • Adam Black

        Virgins are so overrated.

    • Samurai Jack

      Duh. Boneless chicken has to come from somewhere… 😉

  • Lynda Depe-Taylor

    Fly out. Nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

    • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

      Then you just get giant RADIOACTIVE demons.

  • Toli Bera

    but wouldn’t the hoop be protected by magic too?

    • David Welbourn

      Possibly. But I doubt the scaffolding is protected. (Frankly, the scaffolding has bothered me all along. It hardly seems necessary. Is it really there just to hold up that bone circle?)

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        I too was wondering why they left it up, but then I thought that the ring was made of metal. Apparently the bones need some support.

      • DC

        The minions have a health and safety rep, and rules and regulations that require that require scaffolding.

        • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

          I figure it’s for the photographers.

      • Toli Bera

        if anything it’s a left-over from the construction of the hula-hoop-of-doom.

    • IamM

      Maybe it can’t be because it’s part of the ritual.

      • Toli Bera

        huh, you’d think that would warrant more protection.

  • DC

    Yep I thought some of the white parts of the ring looked like horns and skulls. Back on page 57 you can see them. People were probably too distracted by PP’s theatrics though 🙂
    http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch3-page-57/#comment-1571512100

    • Steven K.

      I think you are right about being distracted.

  • I’ve now read the page a handfull of time and in short I have the same reaction everytime:

    Wohoo, plans brewing… *chuckles* logic snark FTW!.. Ooh, technical talk. Say it, Spooky, I do love when you speaks science. Wait.. bones? o_o .. Yikes, I don’t wanna know what or who they came from.
    – YES, Amanda. Go team!

    *Cringe* Bones, eh? Let’s go back to focus on getting people out of the diamond box and ruin the welcome party. Time to be party poopers of the absolute best kind.

    • Terri Sutton

      I am sure the bones are just cattle, sheep bones.

      Or if PP was feeling particularly like Cruella de Vil they could be dog bones. I’m sure the authorities would noticed and properly investigated all the boneless people.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Chief, we found another boneless body!

        • Terri Sutton

          I was imaging people managing to live without their bones, because of MAGIC. But your idea is probably less horrific.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I can’t imagine living on after being de-boned.

          • bronakopdin

            Harry Potter, people, Harry Potter!
            Gum Humans!
            xD

      • I agree, but that’s still a looot of bones. Where did they go to ‘dig those up’? Is it all the left overs from a load of previous sacrifices? Icky, ew eew!

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Maybe she teleported the bones out of the people?

        • SofiaT

          Maybe it’s demon bones.

        • Terri Sutton

          Well reuse and recycle. When you slit the throats of the sacrificial goats and allow their blood to pool onto magic symbols to grant yourself power, the least you should do is eat the meat and keep the bones for soup stock or future magic rituals.

        • Klaus

          Myriads (literally) of animals are slaughtered every day. No one would bat an eye if you ordered a ton of bones from a slaughterhouse. They would assume that you were going grind them up for fertilizer or some such purpose.

          • Compared to various alternatives. I rather hope this is the simple logical answer 😉

      • bronakopdin

        or she teleported them to the US from countries where authorities have way other problems than the thousands of dying people in their regions anyway…

  • purplefoxglove

    Industrial diamond walls? Kick-ass magical wards? A dimensional gate to get the contents in and out? The Platinum Priestess Services – most secure vaults since over 6000 years!

  • Klaus

    What if Spooky assumes wrong? What if that ring is for a gate to get the demons out of America once they get to earth? Smashing it would still be worthwhile, but it would most likely not convince PP to postpone the ritual.

  • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

    Okay, so the cell walls are made of diamond. What’s holding them together?

    • Terri Sutton

      Superglue?

      • Klaus

        It has light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. The force? No, duct tape.

        • Terri Sutton

          I didn’t see any signs of duct tape in the drawings. Unless, they have made the duct tape invisible! Duct tape just became more awesome!

          • Samurai Jack

            Magic is involved. It was magically carved from a single cube of industrial diamond, without any seams. Which wouldn’t make it fireproof, as diamond will burn under extreme heat. But even a door sized hole would make things unpleasant for anyone inside.

          • David Welbourn

            Diamond has a regular molecular structure. If someone was lucky enough to hit it in exactly the right spot with exactly the right strength, it’ll crack like an eggshell along a natural molecular fault-plane.

          • Terri Sutton

            The air-holes for the hostages could be seen as natural targets to try and destroy the structural integrity of the structure. But I have no idea if drilling holes into a diamond-like structure would cause micro-fractures or manufacturing faults.

          • IamM

            Also as routes for an attack against the device inside.

          • Eve

            True, but that will send shards slamming down into the people trapped inside. You could be talking anything from cuts to losing eyes to death depending on the size of the shards.

          • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

            In that case, how did they get the people inside?

          • SofiaT

            I believe Spooky answered that already.

          • As Sofia just said – Spooky answered that question on this very page.

    • Tahir Raines

      I think the implication is that the entire cell walls were made from one diamond. Hence why they can stay together and why Spooky thinks PP used a dimensional gate to get the snacks – I mean, people – inside.

  • TwilightDreamer

    Spooky smirk……*swoon*… XD
    All this battle planning is really cool, and again, I love the realism by adding in different opinions and strategies 🙂

  • So is Spooky basically saying that that the walls aren’t that weak?

    • Terri Sutton

      Are you perhaps insinuating that PP is a lying liar who lies?

      • Who me? Nah, just, well maybe a little, but she really really really wants to be a goddess again, so, any little excuse there.

        • And who doesn’t want to be a goddess again?

          • Well I haven’t been one the first time around. Once that happens, I’ll let you know. 😛

          • Adam Black

            O, you poor thing!

            @Chris Dangerfield: disqus we have to help her

            OK Admiral, who do we have to mass murder, i mean … to make this happen

            Maybe we can do a kickstarter

          • Talk to anyone who has lived through a kickstarter and there are definitely walls of blood and pain.

          • Adam Black

            Goddess of what tho?

          • Adam Black

            nothing… I didnt say anything

      • Klaus

        She would never tell a lie, unless of course she could get some advantage by doing so.

        • Terri Sutton

          She also wouldn’t tell a truth unless there was an advantage to be had.

    • SofiaT

      I hate to take Sircea’s side but maybe the walls are weak(er) and Spooky simply doesn’t know it?

      …Or she’s lying, that could totally be it. 😀

      (The third option is that the walls are weakened, Spooky does know/suspect but he’s referring specifically to the ritual now, so technically he’s correct; it would take them centuries to arrange for it again, except they don’t have that much time)

      • Spooky is referring directly to this ritual when he says The Annihilator and The Platinum Priestess might have to wait years to try again. 🙂

        Here’s what he said about the “walls” that The Platinum Priestess has said she wants to repair:

        http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-bonus1-page-25/

        • Me: Just how weak are the walls? And does Spooky have a plan to fix them? You know one that doesn’t involved demons over-running the earth.

          Alex: Spoilers!

        • SofiaT

          Ohhhhh, how could I have forgotten that!

          Thanks, Alex, for the memory boost 🙂

          • Saxon_Brenton

            I’ll second that. I was thinking about the process yesterday, and while I remembered the bit about the demon guarding the gate having been taken out, I didn’t remember the bit about Spooky saying the walls were weakening.
            Hmm. I wonder if those two are either casually interconnected (ie, killing off the guardian automatically weakens the walls, and/or vice versa); or if they’re two separate processess that are running in parallel and are being orchestrated for the same result (ie, the desired outcome is to get demons onto the Earth, and there are two ways we can do that: kill the gate guardians and/or weaken the dimensional walls).

        • SofiaT

          (Btw, I love how you say “the PP has said she wants to repair” instead of “the PP wants to repair”.)

          • Just the facts, ma’am.

            #nospoilers 😉

          • SofiaT

            *snort*
            Good try, Mr Woolfson.
            You know we’ll take these #nospoilers and run with them anyway!
            It’s what we do. 😀

          • I knew it. Miss Sophia is secretly a lawyer. No snip of stray language gets away from her.

            Alex, go ahead, please tell Sophia moar. I’m sure that no spoilers could ever possibly happen.

            *chris passes Sophia a note pad*

        • Adam Black

          Sounds like a spoiler to me.

          You just admitted that Spooky knows why they are doing this ritual.

          I would think this would be an important thing to share —- that PP is trying to save the world

          or do you mean Spooky is just commenting on the walls being weak for this crossing. Ok Nevermind

      • Adam Black

        I, for one , welcome our Platinum Overlord and appreciate the great and scary lengths she will go to to keep us all safe.

        This just might be the American in me talking.

        So ,she has questionable taste in men. Lots of people do.

        Sircea is looking out for me, and I am grateful.

        If Duncan wasnt such a psychpath he would have found Terminally people willing to heroically give up their lives to save the world .

        Empress Sircea is an ecologist devoted to the saving the whole ecology.

        Shes a Big-picture systems Theorist.

        Duncan is the hands-on guy with the personal touch. I blame him for this screwup.

        Sircea has lost the ability to to see value in everytiny little creature when the whole Forrest is about to go up in flames.

        I like Kyle but hes a kid. Hes also a prince of hell whos risking the whole world so he doesnt have to see his dad again.

        PP is acting for the Greater Good.

        • SofiaT

          I can never tell when you’re joking.

          • Adam Black

            If you think Duncan is looking out for you , youve got nothing to worry about .

            My continent is Protected, and PP is trying to save the world.

            She is also the best-dressed here. Thats counts for something.

            Shes willing to save us ( well some of us, Sorry Austraila ) even though everyone shes ever loved has died, and she has never met a man her equal to love and never will.

            She didnt have to stay on earth. She could have left. She cares. But she isnt going to let sentiment send the world to hell. She will do it herself and on her own terms.

            Any of our elected leaders would do the exact same thing she is. Obama would. I’m sure the OZ prime Mininster is no better

            They would be more slimey and make it look like they were attacked and had to . They would be like Ducnan.

            She is having none of that.
            She is honest about her greed for power, and the need to do what must be done.

            Until word-of-God says otherwise, she is the real heroine of the story.

            But I’m sure Duncan will betray her.

  • bronakopdin

    plotting started! Let’s just hope with all those assumptions that most of them are actually true! Else this could get really bad :/

    and we have to remember that ACTUALLY (if the PP told the truth) we have to think about if it wouldn’T be better they managed their ritual after all if the earth would face worse consequences otherwise…

  • Kit the Coyote

    Well the walls of the cage may be tough but as Kyle pointed out, there is those cables running to it from the power box, I suspect both the cables and the power box is a little more vulnerable. Probably more so than the ‘stargate’.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I think that those cables and the power box are all within the walls of the cage.

    • davefragments

      I agree with StickFigureFairyTales. That box is self contained.
      We all saw Sircea verbally beat down Duncan at the slightest hint of doubt. I think she’s such a megalomaniac that there is no way to stop this spell short of removing the second “key to the kingdom.”

      I would liken it to the lava flowing out of Kilauea volcano on Oahu in that the lava moves about 100 yards a day. Slow enough to hold picnics and parties in front of it but still relentless and as long as Pele the Godess wants, on the move to the sea. (I have a friend who lives in Pahoa. He is safe.)

      I think that is what Sircea has in place. She wants to be a goddess again.
      And therein is the real plot line that we don’t know much about – How could she treat duncan so shabbily a few moments earlier and still want him as her consort for life when she becomes immortal?

      • Okay your connection with Kilauea’s relentless volcano on Oahu is pretty great. I can’t imagine a 6,000 year old sorceress-goddess who can imagine less than achieving what she desires, because after all, when hasn’t she survived and triumphed.

        (Of course she hasn’t really dealt with Silibub yet… even Sircea may learn something from that.) 🙂

        Hey… I’m just being real here? Heh.

        • davefragments

          I do have trouble imagining Duncan and Sircea in a romantic position.

  • Pikinanou

    *rumages in her closet* “Where did I put my pom-poms… Ah, here they are! *shakes pom-poms left and right* GO T-Y-P! GO T-Y-P! YOOOUUURR THE BEST!”

  • WarGoddess

    That’s what I’d go after personally. A quick, precise airstrike to take out the portal to the other dimension. This is gonna be gooooooooood!!!!!! 😀

  • Klaus

    Diamond is extremely hard. But that only means resistant to cutting or abrading. Is it also resistant to smashing?

    • Eve

      It would require a lot of force or a very controlled strike at a weak point, but either way diamond slices like glass so destroying it would seriously endanger the people inside unless done very carefully. Not that they’re not in danger already, of course.

    • Ruben

      Diamond would be super easy to cut with an acetylene torch. It’s a form of carbon and burns quite well.

    • Keneu

      Diamond is very fragile, it breaks easily.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to have Flyboy grab the glass box and fly away with it and the hostages? They can then figure out how to get them out. The hostages seem to be an essential part of the ritual.

    Spooky says that he’s not sure that destroying the Ring will stop the ritual, and Klaus brings up the point that the Ring may be to get the Demons out of the Americas once they arrive. So the hostages seem to be a sure thing but the Ring does not.

    Then there is the military, they are supposed to arrive soon. What are they going to do? Use missiles? If they are, then the hostages have to be gotten out of there or they are going to be blown to bits. Even if they are successful in destroying the Ring they still have to get those hostages out of there. Again, it seems a better idea to target the hostages first than the Ring.

    Once Sircea and Duncan are alerted by the destruction of the Ring, they may not have an easy time rescuing the hostages.

    • Terri Sutton

      But also, y’know it saves people.

    • davefragments

      I think that part of Sircea’s magic protections of the area would prevent the box from being lifted or moved from its location.

      The fact that Duncan was brooding about his love life while staring at the captives makes it almost a certainty that the captives are essential to the spell.

      Since we know that the spell involves two “keys to the Kingdom” – one position in this dimension and another positioned in Laampros’ domain, implies a keyhole. PERHAPS, the circular structure is merely a control for the size of the portal between worlds and not entirely essential to the spell being cast.

      • “The fact that Duncan was brooding about his love life while staring at the captives makes it almost a certainty that the captives are essential to the spell.”

        Your line is interesting. The romantic in me wonders if Duncan was thinking — that when those people die, there will never be another chance for Kyle to think anything of him, but the worst, because that’s the pure heart of Kyle. He’ll never forget or forgive that kind of thing. He might foolishly forgive being used on his own behalf, but he’ll never forget the needless deaths of others. (IMHO)

        I know I’m being schmoopy, but it’s those hard-lines when you know that after a certain thing happens (i.e. the captives die) there will never be any chance of ‘going back’ or changing who he (Duncan) is. The hard line in the sand.

        Even Duncan has to have those thoughts. Unlike Sircea, he is still human, and a single lifetime isn’t long enough to forget your truly evil acts and move on in the effortless way that Sircea seems able to do.

        Sircea said it clearly:

        http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch3-page-60-61/

        In time, either way, she will regain her power and glory. One way is just easier than the other… no big thing.

        Duncan isn’t at the point yet that he can shrug it all off so easily. Maybe immortality will allow him to become heartless too… it will just take… time.

        • davefragments

          I think Duncan had a brief look at something very real when he seduced Kyle and opened the dimensions to make the deal with Laampros. But then, he decided that immortality was better than anything else. So, yes, he is a bad guy.

          I also don’t think that Sircea cares if he lives or dies. He’s just a convenient tool.

          • Oh I so fear you are totally correct… and the romantic in me shivers and dies. NOW that said, I would never want the abused to return to his abuser.

            Am I confused… no doubt. 🙂

          • Klaus

            Ah, no. It only recoils a bit. It will be back in no time.

          • Midori Ren

            An interesting point, in an old comment, though – who is the abuser? Duncan? Sircea? Both, probably. In chain reaction, though Duncan may not know it yet. Somehow I think Kyle is a bit more observant and enlightened now to the idea of being manipulated than Duncan, even though Duncan has played both parts. Who’s in worse danger?

        • Klaus

          Or even needful deaths. But even disregarding Kyle, this is a big step for Duncan. he has never killed anyone on purpose before. At least Kyle could not find any reports of such an event.

          • Wasn’t that only within the last six years? Prior to that hadn’t he been a recognized baddie? As usual I don’t really know the truth of almost anything Duncan related.

          • Klaus

            Duncan has not committed any crimes at all that made the news in six years. He has never killed anyone on purpose.
            http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch3pt1-page-15/

    • Derkins

      having flyboy take it out of there isn’t a bad idea, but then it would make flyboy a target, and leave the rest of the team stranded. seems like he should be able to physically do it, though, so long as magic didn’t prevent him. But it’s a close-range risk, and destroying the ring can be done at a distance. If that isn’t enough, it might at least serve as enough of a distraction to address the people in the box. If not, they’ll have to create another diversion, or hide… or both.

      Otherwise, I have to admit I’m super curious what a fight between typ’s and the silver/platinum duo might look like… >.>

  • It’s true for me (given that I connect with Kyle way too much, heh) that I’m one of those who has been anxiously waiting for Kyle to speak up. To let us know how he feels… gee the groovy hell-date was only last night. 🙂

    It makes perfect sense to me why I connect with this character, when the first words out of his mouth aren’t only about the captives, but even down to the metal beneath their feet and a fear for them.

    We’ve had lots of really stimulating discussion over the past year about the ‘good of the many’ vs ‘the good of the few’. I always come out feeling deeply about those fewer people I can SEE and feel. Is it right? Honestly, even after all our chat, I don’t know which is necessarily ethically better, but I have to accept that I emotionally respond like Kyle does in this page.

    It’s not enough just to stop the gate crisis, we have to save those people too! I love that those we’re the first words and thoughts from Kyle. I know not everyone can agree, but it works for me. Now, how’s he’s gonna pull that sucker off??? I have NO idea.

    (Aside: I would be lying if I didn’t say that I agree with the Admiral, and admit I’m thinking Tsunami should be shown the rear door of the aircraft, since he can’t seem to stop saying how unhappy he is with everyone else on the team just before they go into battle. That’s a mature bunch. I’d have a few words for him at this point… regardless of why he feels the way he seems to. I know… grumpy me.)

    Thank you Alex, Adam and Veronica for another page that ramps us up to the fisticuffs and fireworks. It must be working, because I’m getting more nervous by the page.

    • Thank you, Chris!

      And hold on to your hat… some scenes of action and derring do are ahead… ;D

    • Adam Black

      You are a big softie.
      You would be the first one to grab a parachute and try and save Tsunami, after i shoved him out of the plane.

      what?!

      Of course, I would shove him out of the plane.
      It was your idea! I am a very impressionable person.

      <<<< shoves Tsunami out of the plane

      Tsunami was asking for it. You all thoughts so.

      what?! Didnt you want me to?
      Why didnt you tell me no?
      I told you I would. why didnt you believe me? I'm not a mindreader like Commander

      <<< Hands Chris a parachute, and shoves him out after Tsunami .

      Sorry Buddy. You have a reputation to live up to. I couldnt let you let us down.

      me? No I'm afraid of heights… well not really,…I'm just afraid of falling from great heights and plunging to a gruesome painful death.

      I think we all learned something today , maybe about heroism, maybe about Impulse Control , maybe about wearing a parachute …

      • HA. How well you know me. Yet, I defy you to pry my steel fingers from off the door jam where they are embeded in the steel. I don’t think anyone could get me out of that plane parachute or not. This softie does NOT do parachuting, base jumping, etc… Poor Tsunami, he’d be a goner and I’d feel really really sad… but that’s that for us non-heroes. 🙂

        • Adam Black

          Back so soon?

          I could have sworn I just saw you from 200 feet above, Its so embarrassing to throw the wrong person out of a plane.

          WOW LOOK AT THAT, FLYING SQUIRRELL!!

          Sorry, its for your own-good.

          Dont forget to pull the cord!!

    • I missed the time that there was that longer (but great) debate over this, and I have more than once, also on this page, pondered over the moral dilemmas here … and let me tell you, I’m happy this isn’t real people but a comic.

      No matter how invested I am in these characters (and that’s a lot), it’s still the fact tha they aren’t real people that gives me the possibility to debate so much with myself in what outcome would be the best in the long run – here an now… and still I’m leaning towards your reaction, because these are ‘our guys’ and those people are RIGHT there.

      In real life I would most likely react exactly like you every time. The short time best vs. the long time is always easier in abstract as long as you’re not personally involved. It’s easier to say the long term best is what should be the goal when you’re not IN the situation. If you’re personally invested it’s damn hard to say that, even if it could mean saving the lives of countless others. Looking at someone and say ‘Sorry, better if you don’t make it’.. nope, probably couldn’t do it >.>

      Now that we’ve seen the people in the box it’s also harder to say that. More so because ‘our guys’ will hurt if they don’t succeed here. The abstract became more real.

      Because it’s a comic, I can ponder about the dilemma, but if any of our team get’s hurt, physically or emotionally, or gods forbid worse .. I’ll probably cry right along with them.
      Real or not, I’ve cried over books/comics or movies countless times.

      Darn that personal investment in this, eh? xD

      • Klaus

        Killing the people in the box would ruin the ritual. But that is not the heroic way.

      • Indeed. I don’t mind honest crying over literature or film that really moves me. I was a giant marshmallow over BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN and cried over the loneliness of those men and Heath’s ‘wife’ for three days.

        I don’t think it’s wrong if the work is deserving and it really allows me to think about humanity in a specific situation. Often a situation I hope never to be in.

        • Sapfo

          There is nothing wrong with crying. It is a good way of knowing that you have empathy.

        • Terri Sutton

          That is why I haven’t watched Brokeback Mountain. I cry at the happy endings of Disney movies.

          • It’s interesting to me that the repressed gay issue was very sad, given that their love for each other was so clearly and purely portrayed.

            However, what got me so severely was the EXTREME lonely isolation of these men, at that time period, in that location. It reminded me of some older male relatives that I remember from my childhood. Men that lived really isolated lives (I don’t think gay had any part of that that I knew of). No money, no family, no emotional support. It made me screamingly thankful for my life and relationship, however long it took me to find it.

            In this film, these men were truly alone in their world.

            I’m not totally insane… the music and cinematography also helped kill me. Ang Lee can be an amazing director… well as long as the Hulk is not a cast member. 🙂

            https://www.google.com/search?q=brokeback+mountain&num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VBtAVJ2oCcLCigLY2YHYDw&ved=0CP4FEIke&biw=1774&bih=992

          • Talking about gay issues. Have you ever read The Front Runner by Patricia Nell Warren?

            It’s still one of my favorite books ever, and I’ve read it several times. I can not read it without crying a couple times (or ten), but I love it.
            It’s a stand alone book, but it has two sequels that was written later. If you haven’t read the book, I’d suggest not looking up the sequels until afterwards – since both of them contains in the blurbs.

          • Terri Sutton

            I have heard all that and more and people keep on telling me it totally brilliant and that I should watch it, but keep on adding that I need a box of tissues.

            I have sinus problems and are prone to sinusitis, sometimes my sinus is so bad I have balance problems, hearing problems and severe ear aches.

            So I miss out on all the good stuff because I hate crying.

        • I saw that movie on tv just two days ago. Tears.. flooding of the eyes.. oh so much.

  • Cman65

    if the people all have sex now that would stuff the spell and I’m sure the PP knows the best lies have a grain of truth in them

  • Kyle, why do you have to be so awesome? Saving the people as his first priority instead of revenge on the guy who used him and left him after the date from hell just makes him even better.

    • Keneu

      Agreed. If those people can’t be saved he’s going to feel even worse – which is what I think it’ll happen. 🙁

  • Must say, I do love me some Spooky. He’s actually having fun in the first panel as he get’s ready to throw down. Love that expression.

    • Sapfo

      You better get in line then, just like the rest of us 😉

      • Oh, I’m in line… I’m just first. 🙂

        • Sapfo

          Oh no you didn´t! Dude, no cheating! This gal is PMS:ing! ;P

          • I have my eyes on you two. Trying to sneak ahead of the line – which starts with me >.>

  • davefragments

    Is anyone else noticing how much say Spooky has about this event and the possible tactics to stop the opening of the portal? He’s almost an equal to the Commander OR she gives him his say without much resistance. Their years of friendship shows in their exchanges.

    • SofiaT

      This is also a magical situation and he’s the expert one on the team.
      Amanda is being a good commander by utilising his knowledge.

      • davefragments

        Most likely but I still think they have been together longest and know each other better.

        • SofiaT

          We know that for a fact, thanks to the bonus comic.
          And I agree that their long friendship is one of the reasons Amanda values Spooky’s opinion so much, because she knows he knows his shit and values his opinion.

          But I think she’s above making allowances for her “favorites”. She’s a fair and wise leader and if she listens to Spooky and defers to him in situations that involve magic, is because he’s earned it, not by way of friendship.

  • Adam Irving

    I have to admit, I like the Commander and how the group functions as a team. Lots of good facial expressions here too. Love that last panel. Our artists do such a great job of not offering the characters in the same limited set of poses and profiles, which allows new angles striking new takes on these characters. Three cheers to three great artists (because writing is an art form too!)!

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Personally, I don’t agree with the notion, but… the Dark and Paranoid Conspiracy Theory Stick thinks there has been too much goodwill expressed on this discussion page about Red Hot’s suggestion about stopping the ritual while simulatenously saving the hostages/sacrifices, and has told me that Red Hot is only focusing on his duty as a hero as a way to distract himself from his crippling personal angst.
    Make of that what you will…

    • stickfigurefairytales

      That stick you mentioned isn’t me, right?

      • Saxon_Brenton

        Nope. The part of my mind that handles ruthless realpolitick gets its own name. I pretend to hold a hold onto a stick and it gives me dreadful insights into the way the world really works (and man can they be dreadful; you would not believe how messed up I got myself in mid Jan earlier this year).
        But now it seems to just want to make snarky comments and be a troll, so I’m wondering if the damnable thing is more trouble than it’s worth.

  • Pashira83

    Doki’s depression seems to be better and the guy fixing her computer says it should take a week. She isn’t sure if he was being sarcastic or serious with that estimate.

    • Klaus

      The first part is good news indeed.

    • Glad to know she’s doing better.

    • davefragments

      Happy to hear. Tell her we miss her.

    • Terri Sutton

      Computer repair guys are always such arsehole’s.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I’m really glad that she seems to be doing better. Please tell her that we love her and we can’t wait to see her again.

  • Happy Camping Day, y’all!!

    • Terri Sutton

      Yay! Camping!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Yay camping!!

  • Midori Ren

    Hm well, they picked a specific location to be in alignment with whatever, didn’t they? All the connected things are probably supposed to stay connected. So, even if the people box is close to unbreakable, I doubt it would work properly if it was a good mile or so from the rest of the materials.

    On another note, delay tactics are best tactics. Or at least, most fun tactics. Giant copies of whomever zooming around and sniping people yelling ‘I’m a distraction!’ Suddenly a cloud of mosquitoes where they shouldn’t be. Smoke, chaos, illusions. Fantastic!

    I’m giggling at how pissed the Annihilator is going to be to find Kyle, when trying to logic him away. I doubt the Priestess trusts anyone at all, ever, and doubt she’s as sane as she thinks she is. What I really want to see: Laampros with a personality.

    • Terri Sutton

      More Laampros is always a good thing, at least to me.

  • Derkins

    Okay we’ve all been talking so much about Tsunami fighting with the guys, and what the Villains are up to and what TYP’s might do about it… so I’d just like to say something about Spooky now. ^.^
    I love how excited he looks about their prospects in these panels. He’s really cheered up since arriving at their destination, and getting a load of what’s happening.
    Also! I don’t know if it’s an indication of an active relationship, but I feel like there is a lot of intimacy in the way that Spooky and the Commander look at each other. They have a much different way of interacting with each other than they do with everyone else. At least that’s the way I’m seeing it. It may just be how well they know each other at this point, how far they go back and everything they’ve been through… but… I ship it. That is all.
    (If this is actually an intended effect, then my hat is off to the artists for conveying it in a way that is so subtle, yet still present)

  • Camp day! Found an interesting Kickstarter as a start-off topic and really having to restrain myself at the moment… I just adore the animation style they’re going for in it (and being Canadian helps!!!)

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2088672139/urbance

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I went to a fantastic children’s & young adult literature event today. There were a whole bunch of authors speaking – Katherine Paterson, Chris Crutcher, Steven Kellogg, and several others. It was wonderful, and I got a bunch of books signed.

    • Terri Sutton

      I must be a real arsehole, I know Steven Kellogg has nothing to do with cereal but I would so bring a box of Corn Flakes to sign.

      • DC

        hilarious

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Fun fact: I blame Steven Kellogg’s spelling of his first name for the fact that it took me so long to realize that “Stephen” is not pronounced “Stefen.” Not that he can help that.

        • Terri Sutton

          I still automatically call those whose name is spelt Stephen, Stefan myself. I blame Urkel and all my teachers telling me to sound words out.

          I also pronounce Sean as Seen and not Shawn.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I did that Sean = “Seen” thing too! One of the few downsides of being a reader is that sometimes you have no idea how certain words are actually pronounced.

          • davefragments

            I’ve used names in short stories that I can’t pronounce. I felt really bad but that didn’t stop me.

          • Terri Sutton

            I tend to use apostrophes and hyphens when giving things names (I tend to write in sci-fi fandoms so made up names all-round).

          • davefragments

            Pieter Uitgeveri is one of those names and Joop Ploegmakers is another.

          • Terri Sutton

            Those names actually rolled off my tongue, granted I had to use a James Bond style fake Russian accent.

          • davefragments

            I thought they were Dutch. At least I hope they are Dutch. It wouldn’t be nice for the story if they were another ethnic group, considering that it is a retelling of The Flying Dutchman.

          • Terri Sutton

            I have not idea what ethnicity or nationality those names are (although Joop does sound Scandinavian) I was just describing how I got those names out of my mouth with me tripping on my tongue.

          • Midori Ren

            I find more vowels usually helps with pronunciation, and one can make
            foreign sounding names with them still pronounceable. A few I’ve
            used/invented: Limian, Elyuu, Helt, Avenchi, Hicoli, Pearto, Alsus. Short and simple, and not too many consonants, which works if you’re not trying to write anything historical or oriented in the ‘real’ world. Which, generally, I’m not. The above are from the works in progress I have about the world of my invention, which so far has been read by… about 3 people total outside of myself. Because, you know, the people of the world ‘read’ some of it in my mind, or something. Complicated world stuff.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I could make a guess at how to pronounce those but I might very well be wrong.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Don’t even get me started on “Siobhan” (actually pronounced “shih-VAUN”)

          • Terri Sutton

            I’m pretty sure that I’ve heard Siobhan pronounced with the “B” but it was a Welsh accent and not an Irish accent.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Yeah, “bh” is consistently pronounced as a “v” or “w” sound in Irish.

          • Terri Sutton

            I actually hate how everybody else seems to get this special information pamphlet or something that informs them on how these types of words are pronounced.

        • I still think Stefan when I see Stephen. Personally I think Stefan is nicer.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Has there always been a block of 4 big photo-ads above the comment box? And, if so, why am I just noticing it now?

    • Steven Klimecky

      Actually, now they are gone – weird. And my avatar/photo has disappeared.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Odd business.

      • davefragments

        The ads differ slightly.
        There’s usually one banner-type ad above the page and three boxes (sometimes 4) in a row or square below the page and a rectangular ad to the right.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Yeah – now the usual 2-3 boxes in a row are back – what I am used to seeing. For awhile there was a block of 4 ads in the format of 4 large photos (possibly vid links to some site or product) arranged in a square – I had never seen them like that before.

          • davefragments

            comes and goes.
            The right hand ad is sometimes animated and that drives me bonkers. I keep seeing the movement.

  • davefragments

    Does anyone here use I-Cloud?
    I thinking about it and want a fair opinion about it.

    • I just upgraded enough, but I haven’t had a chance to play with it from what it was before, but it looks interesting. I’m looking forward to seeing what it can do

      • davefragments

        I just upgraded last night and didn’t activate I-Cloud because it was late and I was worried I’d never get to sleep.

      • silibub

        I’m inordinately paranoid about cloud storage, but I did install it. I just haven’t set it up.

        • I’ve been using Google drive, but mostly for my writing or various other misc things. Nothing of great import. Okay, my writing is important to me, but they aren’t naked picts or account numbers.

          • silibub

            I think I get nervous because I have a doddering grandma’s understanding of how hacking works. Part of me figures if they get into the cloud, then they’re in, and nothing’s safe.

          • I have no idea how exactly hacking works either other than they seem to know the back way into things. It boggles my mind really why anyone would do it (of course now I’m hearing golum yelling THIIIIIEEEEFFF!) I just find that google drive allows me to use google docs which allows me access from any of my personal computers to get to my writing if I want to. Other than that, I copy it onto a flash drive.

          • davefragments

            There’s apparently a utility called AIRDROP that supposed to move files between devices. I haven’t even thought about trying it yet. Maybe next week. I won’t be adventuresome until next week.

          • Terri Sutton

            I like flash drives, but I just can’t use them.

            I have this weird mutant power that just causes things I touch to fall apart. My keyboard (barely 6 months old) has stuck keys, my computer desk is broken, my computer chair is broken, I am currently wearing a bra with a stuck/broken strap, my carpet has a huge rip in the middle of the room, I had to turn my bookshelf upside down because the bottom shelf broke.

            This is why I can’t have nice things.

          • davefragments

            good heavens.
            Stay away from me – wink, wink, giggle, giggle.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            You should use your powers for good by messing with supervillains’ death rays and doomsday devices until they inevitably break!

          • Terri Sutton

            Regular villains, nether mind the Supervillains, avoid Dubbo like the plague. Anyone would think that they don’t want to mess with Aussie Bogans.

          • That’s just unfair!

          • Admiral, Dave, silibub, you are all easily way more techy than I am. Years ago, when I was first learning to comment on discussion groups anywhere… like this one, I was so afraid that all you computer geniuses could just look through my posts and ‘see’ me and what I really looked like and know everything.

            Well, that and also the fact that I had $39 in my bank account, and probably even super ‘private stuff’ … like ‘stuff’ I might have done with my husband (you know… gay penis stuff) AND stuff I ‘researched’ on the computer (shhhhhhh… ‘nekkid boyz WITH penises showing’ research). I know shocking academic research… (we scholars are odd about our fields of study… heh). You never thought of this kind of thing with someone as lofty as myself, but heck.. truth is the truth. Oh well.

            So here is a picture of me, so I don’t have to worry about this issue ever again…

            http://media2.whosaystatic.com/670142/670142_640x640wc.jpg

            Thank you all for the tech support, and if you discover any tips about making iCloud work better, please do share!

            Gratefully yours,
            Chris Dangertech

          • So far as I can tell, it’s basically a lot like google drive.

          • davefragments

            I have three rules in life:
            1) not red
            2) no mayonaise
            3) never appear in front of a digital camera naked.

            that’s it.

          • silibub

            I don’t know about the first two, but I’m completely on board with the third!

          • davefragments

            I don’t buy red cars.
            I don’t eat mayonnaise (egg allergy and I hate the taste of the ugly white stuff)

          • silibub

            Then I’m with you on red cars as well — too conspicuous. I’m indifferent toward mayonnaise, but an egg allergy/taste aversion are great reasons to avoid it.

          • SofiaT

            Fun pictures can be fun though *waggles eyebrows*

            The trick is not to have body and face both visible in the same pic 😛

          • davefragments

            I really don’t want or need to be in someone else’s personal stuff. I find my stuff boring enough and don’t wish to be bored silly by anyone else’s. . .

          • silibub

            LOL, I definitely get the appeal, but getting pictures of headless body parts weirds me out a little!

          • SofiaT

            Think glimpses of different body parts.
            They can turn out beautiful (no, really) and when you’re in a long distance relationship they’re good kindle to keep the fire burning.

            …or so I hear 😛

          • silibub

            Well, if I’m ever in a trusting enough relationship, I might be flexible on the subject. It’s funny to think of someone really trying for an “artsy” nude, though!

          • SofiaT

            When I was in London, I was in a relationship with a man I trusted completely (and still do). He’s still one of my best friends.

            But I’d still not give him full nude photos of myself -trusting or not, you never know who can get their hands on them, accidentally or not.

          • silibub

            Good point — even if I could be persuaded to take them, they’d be very discreet.

          • silibub

            (You sound so sophisticated, by the way — living in London and having a relationship there, it evokes a real sense of maturity and romance.)

          • SofiaT

            Lol. Not really.
            I was doing my Master’s degree in London, he was in Athens.

            Hence all the electronic, um, communication.

          • silibub

            Off-topic, but do you mind sharing what you got your Master’s in? I’m probably going to jump back into the academic fray next year, so I’m curious.

          • SofiaT

            It was an MBA.

            I hated it. But the student life was great, so I can’t find myself regretting it.

            If I could do it all over again, I’d continue my studies in Sociology.
            Or would just do another undergrad, studying English literature or History or something.

          • silibub

            I doubled in English Lit and Classics as an undergrad — I loved Classics and still really miss it, but English wore me down after a while. I wish I had been able to concentrate on Creative Writing instead, but after transferring schools I wouldn’t have had time to make up the credits.

          • SofiaT

            I would be an awful writer.
            I’m a born reader, the idea of writing… You need to have both talent and discipline and I lack both.

            I’d love to be an editor though; not a copy editor, mind you. Not sure I’d be able to do that in English, as it’s my second language, but I have a good eye for pacing and what works and what doesn’t in a book.

          • silibub

            I’d love to go into editing, too! Especially after all the critiques I did I my writing classes — I’m definitely not shy about saying “here’s why this doesn’t work, and it’s not just because I don’t want to read about your broody white male cutout protagonist masturbating to weird stuff.”

            Reading a lot is probably the best thing you can do to make yourself a good editor, and you’ve already been doing that. I think you’d be awesome at it!

          • SofiaT

            Ha, thanks! But I don’t think “I like to read” holds a lot of weight on a resume.

            I managed to twist my MBA so it became a bit more palatable, doing my thesis on NGO management. Now I’m working for a charity and -while it doesn’t pay well- it’s a job I like.

            I do wish for something different at times though…

            Btw, judging by your analyses here and the sharp mind you obviously possess, I’m sure you’d make a good editor yourself. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            A hip clad in lace or a nude shoulder with just a hint of breast are actually quite easy photos to take, and they can be erotic without being crude.

            Just giving examples here, but the point is, not everything has to be porn.

          • silibub

            Ha, then actually I think a couple pictures I’ve sent might qualify — showing off new thigh-high stockings, although I didn’t intend for it to be all that provocative! I should’ve slapped a filter on that and farmed for notes on Tumblr.

          • SofiaT

            Ha!

          • Terri Sutton

            OJST promotes the removal of birth marks or any other identifiers and not to have your head/face in frame when taking such pictures in case your phone/computer get hacked.

          • silibub

            Solid advice!

          • SofiaT

            Exactly!

            No idea what or who OJST is, but I concur.

            Of course, I believe that people shouldn’t have to take such precautions, just like women shouldn’t have to be vigilant when they walk alone at night; but since this is not a perfect world, you got to take care of yourself first.

          • Terri Sutton

            OJST is the web comic “Oh Joy Sex Toy” by Erika Moen.

            http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/

          • davefragments

            I’m going to have to read that tomorrow.

          • OJST is great. Kinky, but great, learning with a good sense of humor.

          • Adam Black

            Thats why I had “This is not Adams Penis” tattooed in invisible —yet Flash reflexive ink. It only shows up in flash photography ( like red-eye )

            It gives me permanent Plausible deniability.

          • Adam Black

            I believe in 2, I believe in 2+3 ,One should never pose naked with mayonaise.Its just wrong. or crisco.

          • Terri Sutton

            My mind kind of got stuck on the whole naked pics thing.

            If they’re naked pics of yourself why on Earth do you have them, and if they’re not, hacking seems like a lot of work for porn considering this is the internet and can find stuff just be turning the safe search option off on your browser/search engine.

          • silibub

            They could be pics of yourself with your partner, or you could just like how you look in them so you save them after sending them off?

            And I think people who steal nude pictures do it for the power trip more than masturbatory fodder, because obviously if their only objective was to look at naughty bits there are far easier ways to do it.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I concur.

          • SofiaT

            If someone wants to take private photos of themselves and keep them private, it’s their goddamn right to do so. Anyone who violates that right is a criminal of the lowest kind.

          • silibub

            Absolutely. This whole mess with celebrity women having their pictures stolen makes me want to spit bile — what a bunch of invasive, predatory, smug assholes.

          • SofiaT

            This subject gets me so upset, my previous comment was full of typos.

            No, seriously, makes me foam at the mouth.

          • *hands out towels* I’m with you. I get so HULK SMASH about the topic, I have to watch myself.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Me too, my friend. Me too.

          • Adam Black

            If you want take naked picture and release them to 500 of your closest friends, strangers and people who trade you theirs before meeting on a tuesday afternoon, that is nobody else’s business.

            damn criminals

          • Hear, hear!

          • Not that I have nude picts because well, I hate being photographed with clothes on, I’m not about to do it with clothes off. But that’s all personal. If I liked how I looked in pictures, hey I might have them. I mean those that do it, get on with their bad selves, I personally just don’t have that confidence.

            For why I would have them if I did have them, I might not have deleted them after I uploaded them to get them where they were to go. Or as Silibub said, if it was a pict I looked good in, it might be a reminder of looking that good.

            But I think sometimes they’re sent to significant others so they have a reminder what they have at home or a little tease. All personal and private decisions. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            You dont have naked pictures of yourself?
            I feel old just thinking about when i first crossed that threshold.

            I thought at this point that was common from people from 15-50.

            Sooner or later Politicans will need naked selfies just to get elected.
            “My opponent refuses to release his naked selfies. We all know he has them. Who knows what terrible scandal he is hiding by not releasing them”

          • @admiraljane:disqus, do you like Google Drive, more than other choices, for a reason? Or was it just a random choice?

            Ola, @alexwoolfson:disqus, as a technical dude, do you use a cloud drive of some sort, and is there a brand or type of tech that you like best?

            Thanks all.

          • It wasn’t always Google Drive. I mean it was, but it was up until then been called Google Docs. Now Google Docs is now a part of the drive. I used it because I could easily transfer from one computer to another without much issue.

            Then my laptop went down (RIP) and I needed something to write one because trying to right on the old eMac gave me shoulder issues. So I transfered my writing, turned them into google docs and stole my dad’s chromebook and began writing in the cloud. I needed to write man and it was the only way, since you know I was tired of my arm from the elbow down going numb (That’s creepy, yo).

            So luck was with me and I got my own chromebook. I wrote most of my last book on it. The biggest problem with Google docs is that it doesn’t like large docs, so I had to break it down and have each chapter as its own doc. Which is kind of a pain when you want to do a quick search for referencing something.

            But Google docs is good for what it is. And if I’ve got to travel, it would be easy enough to load up my writing and go. Of course now with the icloud and Apple putting pages up there. But pages is still beta and half of what the full program is.

            So that’s my experience and why I chose it. Basically it was convenience. 😛

          • I use Dropbox for most things. I have my eye on iCloud — and have been reading my way through the Ars Technica review of Yosemite — but I’m not seeing anything yet that would justify me switching over to iCloud for the things I use Dropbox for…

          • Adam Black

            G+ lets you do autopicture backups on Phone and it hasnt been hacked yet.

            Gdrive is ( almost ) fully integrated with Gmail, and G+ Gdrive has features I wish they wpould import into G+.

            Its fuilly drag and drop almost all media files.

            Gdrive file conversion is terrible. Turn it off
            ( Pdf to doc or text conversion )

            Gdrive/docs is good for collaborative editing— its saves changes.

        • SofiaT

          I have an iPhone but never synced it with iCloud.
          The idea of all my private data (photos, texts, emails) stored where someone can access it, isn’t very appealing to me.

          I’m sure Jennifer Lawrence regrets it too.

      • davefragments

        I normally pop in a zip drive, created a folder with the date and copy my files into it. That’s about every ten days to two weeks. That system has served me well for a backup.
        I tried Google’s Cloud drive but stopped it when it decided to misbehave by starting at odd times and taking files that weren’t opened or used in the period.

        • I have a flash drive that I also update on. I only like the cloud for moving easily from one device to another without having to carry too much stuff around. Other than that, it’s not really first choice. Google docs doesn’t like long documents so I’d have to break down my stories into individual chapters and work that way, which works a little bit, but for quick searches in a story, not so great.

    • I’ve used Dropbox for writing, research, work etc… and it’s been very helpful, given that I have a computer, laptop, iPad, iPhone. I do love being able to work on various documents and things and know that I’m on my own latest version or to have the research available wherever I am.

      I’m just learning how the latest iteration of iCloud works with the new OS. I feel like I’m in baby step mode. I think if I could get my act together and stop acting Sircea’s age when it comes to technology, then I would appreciate iCloud more. I’m trying to make myself do the tutorials and really learn to use the new functions (baby steps). My 13-year-old nephew knows everything… so I text him a lot. LOL.

      So, that’s no answer to your question, but I’m hoping that if I get my act together iCloud will work well for me. If you discover anything handy please do share. Thanks.

      • davefragments

        Thanks. I know that feeling very well.
        I didn’t use a 13 y/o but my work’s “help desk” and computer department.

        • Disqus is like a weird software psychology test. I type things and they disappear… then I come back later and some part of it is here. I shouldn’t expect to understand cloud tech if I can’t even get Disqus to do what I think it should. Heh.

  • *Signs in for camp* Ugh.. it’s that time of the year again where it’s suddently harder to wake up early that usual. It’s so dark outside 🙂
    I made it though. Hi guys.

    • Terri Sutton

      I’d offer to swap weather with you but I don’t think that anyone deserves the not-Winter-not-Summer weather I have to suffer through twice a year.

    • Morning Ms Wolf, it really is more difficult as winter descend upon us. 🙂

    • silibub

      Plus, now that it’s chilly in the mornings I’m even less inclined than usual to toss off the blankets. I should have been born a bear.

      • Terri Sutton

        But would a bear enjoy this?

        • silibub

          If that bear has any taste, it should!

    • davefragments

      In two weeks, we turn the clock back an hour.
      Time for the national silliness of “saving” time.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Morning, Danish! Yeah, I hate it when it’s dark in the mornings too.

  • Sapfo

    Sneaks in right after the wolf.
    It is hard getting up in the morning when It´s dark, but then Danish just said that 😉
    Good morning on you all

    • Morning Ms Sapfo, glad you could drag yourself from bed!

      • Sapfo

        Who said I am out of bed dear?
        *Blanket around my body* 😀

        • I shall rephrase. Glad you could drag yourself from sleep to join us. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Thank you dear and thank you for guarding my kilt man. You look out for me 🙂

          • Those two are sneaky and always up to no good and not in a good way. Poor kilt man was cornered when I found them. Had to pull out a newspaper and get whacking

          • Sapfo

            The good AJ take care of everything. <3

          • I do try. I mean it was your gift! They thought that they would give you a gift they liked hoping you would give it to them. HA!

          • Sapfo

            Foolish men XD

          • They can’t seem to help themselves. 😛

    • Did your alarm clock sound more evil than usual too this morning?

      • Sapfo

        Nope! I allways wake up by the little click that it makes right before it starts. So I have not really heard it in month XD

        • I think I just found the reason (see comment above). It was taunting me for not sleeping longer.

          • Sapfo

            oh Wolf!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Morning, Sapfo!

    • davefragments

      good morning over there. It’s midnight here.

  • Oh gawd. I forgot that Alex is at NijiCon. Why did I try getting up the normal early time when he usually can’t upload until after the con day is over -_-

    • Sapfo

      Does not the con starts on the 18 (today for us?), and he uploads the page on friday?

      • Hmm.. doesn’t it often start on fridays? Maybe this one isn’t until ‘tomorrow’ and I didn’t forget anyway xD

        • Sapfo

          It is only two days.

          • But in Philadelphia. Good chance Alex is there setting things up today. I don’t know… anyway, we made it to camp 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Maybe, but there is no fans holding him up…. I think XD

            Edit: Oki, strange organising me really would like so see the work that goes into a con before it starts. The building and who people act between each other. I would like to analyz that….. I am strange 😀

          • davefragments

            well, slightly west. King of Prussia isn’t officially Filthadelphia

  • Thought I would share. It’s the internet so it’s a cat.

    http://www.boredpanda.com/garfi-the-angry-cat/

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Ha ha ha! I love that cat!

      • I really wouldn’t want to wake up to him sitting on my chest staring at me. 🙂

        • davefragments

          That happens to me, I turn the cat into a tea cozy.

        • Sapfo

          “PET ME!”

          • “I AM PLOTTING!!”

          • Sapfo

            “FEED ME, SERVANT!”

          • Terri Sutton

            “I WANT A PAT.” “NOT FROM YOU SERVANT!”

          • stickfigurefairytales

            “TOO MUCH PATTING!”

          • “CEASE PATTING RUB BELLY!”

          • stickfigurefairytales

            “I WILL GNAW ON YOUR HAND!”

          • “I GROW HUNGRY FEED ME”

          • Sapfo

            “MY BOWL IS ONLY HALF FULL! ARE YOU TRYING TO STARVE ME?”

          • stickfigurefairytales

            “FEED ME AGAIN”

          • “THERE IS A KIBBLE IN MY WATER, YOU TRY TO POISON ME”

        • Choreocrat

          LAAMPROS SENDS HIS REGARDS!

          • Hahahaha! “I AM HIS GREAT EYE ALWAYS WATCHING”

    • Terri Sutton

      If people have the same reaction to him in RL that I did (which was god-awful belly laugh) I can understand why that cat is so goddamn grumpy.

      • I find myself feeling very respectful of that cat. I’d never not believe he wasn’t plotting my demise.

        • Terri Sutton

          I think that the first person his hit list is the person who shoved him into that denim overall thing.

          • I would agree with that. The next the one who bathed him.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      And this is how the Kranky Kat meme started?

    • That girl in the last pic has the best guard.. eeh.. cat ever.

  • Choreocrat

    No matter how often I’m on the internet, I’m still momentarily confused when people are commenting about autumn and just waking up, when it’s clearly afternoon and nearly summer. *life of an Aussie*

    Before you get jealous, I might live in tropical North Queensland, but it’s 30C and humid to the point where it’s drippy, and nights don’t go below 20C (about 60F). Winter is lovely here, but summer is gross.

    • davefragments

      We don’t have Tulips for Thanksgiving.
      We have mums and pumpkin and squash and a few turnips, here and there.
      and the hunter’s have deer season (it’s the rutting time of year)

      • Choreocrat

        I saw American pumpkins for the first time the other day. I was really confused, because they actually looked like the ones in comics! Apparently what I call a pumpkin you call a squash.

        • davefragments

          Squash are smaller and have more shapes and colors. Pumpkins are always orange-ish and about 12 inches to 24 in diameter, round-ish. It’s probably a distinction without meaning.

    • Terri Sutton

      Fellow Aussie. The consistent hot-humid weather of North Queensland almost sounds desirable.

      Think of all those jokes about Melbourne’s crazy weather and you have what I live through every Spring and Autumn.

      • Choreocrat

        I grew up down south. I’m craving a southern winter right now.

        • Terri Sutton

          I almost at the point where I don’t care about what the weather would be like as long as it could be consistent for like three days in a row.

          • Choreocrat

            Then North Queensland is for you! Winter is consistently great, and summer is consistently gross.

          • Terri Sutton

            Summer where I live has two forms; gross = humid, soul-sucking = dry and almost always rains on Christmas Day (unless there is a drought).

          • Choreocrat

            You live in Canberra? 😉 (though you probably described everywhere between Sydney and Melbourne)

          • Terri Sutton

            No. Dubbo. Please don’t laugh.

            Dubbo is exactly like those jokes and yet isn’t anything like those jokes.

          • Choreocrat

            Remember the bit where I live in North Queensland? It’s not the touristy bit.

          • Terri Sutton

            I have actually been to a non-touristy part of North Queensland, less bogans than I was used to.

          • Choreocrat

            Probably the same as Dubbo. You can tell where I live pretty easily when I tell you that it’s equal parts military, university and mining here.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            We get snow here for Christmas. 🙂

          • Choreocrat

            Oh, I wish! I had my first cold Christmas last year. It was amazing!

          • Terri Sutton

            I think I’ve seen that stuff once.

          • Midori Ren

            I’m from too far north to acknowledge anything above 80F/26C as ‘not death.’ Cold is fine. I can add more layers but when removing them I come across the boundary of removing skin, which is where I stop.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            It can go up to 29C for me if it’s not humid. Humidity just kills me.

          • Choreocrat

            A typical mid-summer day here is 35C/60% humidity during the day, and 27C and 80% humidity at night.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            *shudders*

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            *shudders* too!

          • Choreocrat

            In compensation, the lowest temperature I’ve seen here is 9C (I think that’s about 40F), and it doesn’t rain all winter.

          • davefragments

            OMG – the lowest I’ve seen where I live was 19 below zero Fahrenheit. That was cold.

          • Choreocrat

            Yeah, when I tell people I miss *real* winters, that’s not what I mean.

          • Midori Ren

            That’s it? You’re south of me….

          • davefragments

            Where north of me?

          • Midori Ren

            Mountainy part of Maine, USA. Pretty much Canada, and north of some Canada. I might not be literally north of you, but I seem to be figuratively, by temperature.

          • davefragments

            You are north of me because I”m very near Pittsburgh PA.
            Born and raised here.

          • Midori Ren

            Ah yes, PA! Do you also get 5-7 months of winter, or do you have a growing season (more than a month without night-time frosts)? I’m always curious about where the variation occurs. Apparently WI, in the northern midwest, has weather similar to OH. The patterns confuse me.

          • davefragments

            We’re not that cold.
            There is a strip of weather between the Mid-Atlantic states and the Great Lake States that follows the Ohio River from Pittsburgh to almost the Mississippi/Missouri. WE miss out on the Atlantic storms that his Washington DC and we miss out on the Great Lakes cold that goes north above Erie and to Buffalo.
            IT makes like hell on weathermen.

            Personally, I say that weatherman should be castrated to prevent their reproducing their own kind.
            wink, wink

          • Midori Ren

            I dunno, they can at least generally warn of hurricanes. That’s mildly useful. But yeah, getting surprise ice storms before switching to winter tires because it was supposed to be sunny fall weather is pretty evil. Maybe they work for Anni. Not evil enough to hide a hurricane, but doing a lot of nothing most of the rest of the time and getting paid for it.

            Oh, so you’re in that belt of ‘suddenly less winter.’ You do at least get enough snow for winter to be enjoyable, right?

          • davefragments

            oh yes – all four seasons.
            Last year it got like -10 for a spell and snowed too much. Snow I can live with but Ice, is awful. Worst is I have 300 feet of driveway.
            This year is supposed to be normal to warmer.
            The Appalachian Mountains protect us from lots of weather.

          • Midori Ren

            Snow or ice are okay with winter tires, capable snow plows, and salt trucks. What’s terrible is when it gets cold enough the salt stops working. That doesn’t happen every winter in Maine, but we hear about it from Canada every year. You’d think they’d develop more methods, but I suppose the same logic keeps them replacing the asphalt every few years even though the frost heaves alone ruin it. I’m used to 5 seasons: Winter, usually starts in towards the end of October (coming up on it) and ends April, sometimes May. Mud Season: all of May, caused by mountain snow melting. Spring: sometimes end of May, usually June – July. Summer: some of July, most of August. Fall: September and October. And winter again.

            That is a lot of driveway. I think ours is 60ft, and sometimes we borrow the neighbour’s snowblower if if looks like more than a foot per day. My youngest sister has class still unless it gets below -10, because then the bus engines won’t start (high schooler). Though, almost nothing has air conditioning.
            They do this thing in the northeast (and maybe where you are?) where they run a small charge through the telephone wires to keep the ice off. It doesn’t stop tree branches and stuff, but it helps some.
            Gah, I should sleep and stuff. I’m supposed to get up at 9 tomorrow to meet a friend. This has been an enlightening conversation – thanks! 🙂

          • Midori Ren

            Where I live 5 to 16C (40 – 60F) is typical summer weather, so 3 months of the year. So I could get summer in your winter, which would be the only time I’d visit…

          • Midori Ren

            *swings stick* Back! None of that fire business near me! *runs*

          • Terri Sutton

            You think that the coppers here would be less strict with the whole public decency/no nudity laws here, but no, it all we have to wear clothing at all times in public.

          • Choreocrat

            Footy shorts, singlet and thongs (flip flops) are normal wear here. I’ve grown to appreciate it. (Particularly ogling guys’ legs… *ahem*)

          • Midori Ren

            Well if needs must? xD If I have to I’ll remove that last layer but I need my skin for reasons, so that has to stay on. Usually that last layer of clothes would be in private. Or at least in hiding.
            Edit: You would think so in a place of death-heat.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Humidity sucks. 20C = 68F

      • Choreocrat

        Yep. I grew up with dry weather, so when I moved here in the middle of the wet season, it almost killed my ability to sleep. Air con is a must here.

        • Terri Sutton

          Not just any air con, refrigerated air con, evaporated air con just makes a bad situation worse.

  • Sapfo

    Don´t know If I told you this Alex. I do wish you a great con. Hope you meet a lot of fun people and get to do great things.
    Have fun!

    • Thank you. Really good folks are running it so I think it’ll be a blast. 🙂

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Okay, I need to head off to bed. Have a good night/morning, everybody!

    • davefragments

      nighty-night

    • Night Stick! Sleep well.

    • silibub

      Goodnight!

  • Oki, since it’s on the topic of summer turning into autumn for a lot of people – here’s some ‘before and after’ pics for you 🙂

    http://www.boredpanda.com/before-and-after-autumn-photography/?utm_content=buffer0f051&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    • Choreocrat

      *sigh* Beautiful.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Beautiful pictures! I love the colors of Autumn.

  • All righty – Vero is having some Internet trouble again and it’s getting late enough that I kinda need to get to bed so I can wake up early tomorrow. So… I’m thinking I’m going to try to post up the penciled page in a few minutes. Stay tuned…

    • silibub

      I’m sorry for Vero, but I’m always delighted to see the pencils for a page!

      • Choreocrat

        Yep.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      [salutes] Staying tuned. And thanks for the heads up.

  • silibub

    And an ominous silence descends over the campsite…

    • HA!

    • I was just zoning out even before the message from Alex. Getting a headache so timing is great for me >.<

    • Terri Sutton

      I am actually kin of pleased by that. My internet has been giving me shit-fits since I started camping. I have had a bit of trouble following the conversations because of it.

    • SofiaT

      The hunt for the virgin has begun!

    • Saxon_Brenton

      The speed of my internet is such that I have no hope of ever trying to catch a virgin. I shall practice my aggressive indifference to it and be over here reading the newspaper.

  • Terri Sutton
  • And right as I was replying to Sili.. the new page is up.

  • It’s absurdly reassuring when Amanda takes charge. She is the kind of leader that most people dream of… whatever their occupation. She has the kind of relaxed confidence that make you think her plan is going to work. So ONWARD!