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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Three—Page 39

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  • For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

  • Not happy.. Kyle is not happy.

  • So his name is Gordon?

    • SofiaT

      And now I’m thinking of… “FLASH!! OHHH-OOOHHHH! HE’S THE SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE -DUM, DUM DUM DUM”!

      Queen and 80’s awful fantasy movies for the win! 😀

      • Okay, that made me laugh out loud. The moment I saw the caps, I started singing it.

        • SofiaT

          How can you not sing it? 😀

          • Too true. 😀

            Of course it may segue into Highlander the movie which has no bearing, other than Queen and cheesy 80’s fantasy movies.

          • SofiaT

            “Heeeeeeeere we aaaaare! Born to be kiiiiings, we’re the princes of the uuuuuuuuuniveeeeerse!” 😛

          • Ha! 😀

          • SofiaT

            All this talk of cult fantasy movies, had me remember the Fantaghiro series of tv movies -I had a huge crush on the not-so-evil-after-all evil wizard, Tarabas. *sigh*

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantaghir%C3%B2_series

            And if you’re wondering why my crush was the evil wizard, here’s your answer: http://www.spletnik.ru/img/__post/e4/e4b13f343c651b561c55ff5a64d7dbe2_707.gif (nah, he was really a good guy deep down. I swear!)

          • Cute evil not so evil evil wizard. 😀

          • SofiaT

            I know, right?
            And he was adorable, pretending to be evil when he really wasn’t.
            I don’t know why I find men like that attractive, I think I have to look into it…

          • HA! On both accounts.

            Were these movies out before the first boyfriend or after? That could explain things. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Before… :0/
            I think I was around 12 when I watched the first one.
            It was around that time I really got into the Fantasy genre.
            A nice way to escape reality.

          • I’ll have to look them up, see if they’re around somewhere.

          • SofiaT

            They’re Italian but there’s an English voiceover, if you can find that version.

          • Wonder if they have subtitles? Either way. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            If you find them, let me know 🙂

          • Will do. So far most of them are Non-Us format. >:P

          • SofiaT

            In English it was translated as “The Cave of the Golden Rose” -Hope you have better luck with that!

          • SofiaT
          • It’s also region 2. Sigh. They also have them at Amazon, but again region 2. As well as $30. 😐

          • SofiaT

            The region is not a problem -you can “break” the code on your dvd player and make it read all regions. That’s what I’ve done on mine; or the dvd’s I had with me from Europe would be useless here.

  • GORDON! His name is Gordon <3

  • Um…dude, you’re making it worse by the minute. Maybe you might want to stop talking.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Technically, he’s saying all the sensible things, in exactly the wrong way and at the wrong time to the wrong people.

      • In all the wrong way!

        Though in this instance, his foot must be mighty tasty.

  • No Mitch again…. 🙁

    • DC

      but at least Gordon is saying he is useful and wanted there

  • Simba

    Gordon?! That is definitely not the name I was expecting…but now that I hear it… Kinda makes sense.

  • Can’t blame Kyle for wanting to be part of making things right. I would want the same. There’s a certain weight of responsibility and sometimes the only way to lighten it is to see things all the way to the end.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Yeah, what IS that supposed to mean?!

  • Actually, I think the Commander may want to step in soon otherwise I think this could get ugly. And then FlyBoy is really going to have trouble concentrating. And we really want FlyBoy to remain focused since he’s flying the plane!!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      “But if Kyle’s gay, and I’m gay, then who’s flying the plane?!”

      • I laughed for a good solid ten minutes at this and it’s not even that funny what’s wrong with me

        • stickfigurefairytales

          I’m always glad when I can share some laughter. 😀

  • Klaus

    Remind me, Tsunami: who among you have any experience fighting the Annihilator?

    • mogoskier

      Not to mention there a high chance of fire demons there. Let’s not exclude the one person here who is fire proof.

  • SofiaT

    Ugh ugh. I like you, Tsunami, don’t go and ruin it now.

    If what he means is that he suspects Kyle’s parentage of being the reason Kyle did what he did -and he seems to imply that Kyle’s actions and their unfortunate consequences were deliberate-, that the world will be destroyed because of Kyle’s “bad blood”, I will be very upset.

    As in, Hulk-upset.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      [Saxon gets out th Dark and Paranoid Conspiracy Theory Stick and with *very deliberate grimness* places it on the table, in public view]
      Just to clarify, I take it you mean the ‘Kyle is a demon, and therefor bad, and that explains why he’s gay’ concept?
      Yeah, I think a lot of us would suffer major league crank attacks about that.

      • SofiaT

        If Tsunami considers Kyle “tainted” because of who his father is, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his sexual orientation got blamed on that too. At this point, Tsunami thinking that being gay is wrong, is the least of my worries though. Homophobia is something I believe to be curable; it’s based on ignorance. Educate someone, in a way that he understands, and he’ll get it. Eventually.
        Tsunami possibly thinking that Kyle is evil though… that’s beyond fixable for me. If he doubts Kyle’s honesty and selflessness, then he’s an idiot. You can fix ignorance, nothing you can do about idiocy. :0/

      • Elrohir

        Actually, I don’t think that Tsunami is a homophobe. I’m pretty much in the camp that he got squeamish at the sight of himself and his “family” having sex with each other. I would be pretty weirded out by imagery of me having sex with my brother. Wouldn’t have anything to do with homophobia or even not liking porn in general. And if one of the 15 year olds in the family came into the room I’m really pretty sure that I would NOT let him see the images even if I was pretty certain that he was occasionally finding his own porn at that age.
        As for the “maybe it was something else” I think that turn of phrase is a serious gaffe in that it could be taken as “you are not trustworthy” even though I think that he was suggesting that other forces may be in play. The “make things worse” discussion I *think* is him being worried that if Kyle’s powers are tied in some fashion to his father’s powers that they could be drawn upon at the wrong time whether Kyle was consenting or not. Just my thoughts.

        • He could be a demonphobe? Of course we don’t know exactly what the others know.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I don’t think so, Sofia. Tsunami says: “for all we know you could make things worse”. I think he is referring to Kyle’s ability, that the PP or Duncan can make use of him and make things much worse. I’m thinking that is what he meant.

      • SofiaT

        It’s the “maybe it was tremendously poor judgement, maybe it was something else” part that alarms me.

        • purplefoxglove

          The “maybe it was something else” might simply mean that Tsunami thinks Kyle might be head over heels in love with Duncan – meaning his judgment was not only tremendously poor, but he’s been unable to judge at all. Or were you able to notice anything negative about a person you were madly in love with? At least at the beginning?
          Yeah, I know. I’m probably being naive again. Leave me my rose-tinted spectacles.

          • SofiaT

            I’m hoping he might mean that Sircea spelled Kyle to make him more receptive to Duncan’s adnances. Not that I believe that’s possible, gaining Kyle’s trust in the traditional way, free will and all, seemed very important for Duncan to complete the ritual.

            But I hope that’s what Tsunami means, because if not… Arrrgh.
            Amanda isn’t the only mama bear here. I got a temper too. >:(

          • purplefoxglove

            You be the mama bear, I be the lioness >:D

            Btw, I think that if Sircea had put such a spell on Kyle, Spooky would have noticed it during the check-up.

          • SofiaT

            Oh, I don’t think that’s the case at all. I just hope Tsunami does. Because I don’t want to think what else he could be meaning (I don’t want to, but think about it nevertheless)

          • purplefoxglove

            Ah, you had me confused there for a moment. ^^ But you’re right – that better be what Tsunami (for some reason, I can’t refer to him as “Gordon”) meant…

    • silibub

      Yeah — I mean, it would make sense that someone on the team has to go there now that they know about Kyle’s demonic heritage, but that doesn’t make it a pleasant assumption or a good thing to say to Kyle’s face (bringing it up privately to Commander and trusting her judgment/telepathy would be the best route).

      I guess he could have been referring to fate, like no matter what Kyle chose, or what the villains were plotting, he would have inevitably been involved in bringing hell to earth. But I don’t have enough of a grasp on Tsunami to say whether or not fate is something he believes in.

      • Klaus

        While the personification of fate is not in this case named Wierd, the name still starts with a W.

      • SofiaT

        At the moment, I have no grasp on Tsunami!
        I can see why cautious and overprotective as he is, he’d frown upon Kyle’s actions, the way Fluke did. I wouldn’t be happy about it, but I’d see where he’s coming from.

        But if -if- he is one of those “nature vs nurture” guys, who thinks that someone can be born evil, the only thing I

        • silibub

          All of this! Plus they’ve been teammates for a while now, so Tsunami should know how intrinsically good Kyle is — even Duncan pointed it out more than once, and I doubt he went into this scheme intending to get stuck on Kyle’s admirable traits. If Tsunami’s actually implying that Kyle could have been compelled by his evil bloodline to bring about the hellpocalypse, then he just hasn’t been observant…like at all.

          • Derkins

            it’s called ego, and a lack of empathy. if that is the case, then he sees what he feels like seeing.

        • Derkins

          Not even Anni is all evil. He’s more like chaotic something… but even he said it: he’s an anarchist. that’s different than, like… sauron. heh

  • … Kyle’s presense could make what ever spell/key needed to open things more powerfull. After all, he already worked as a portal once.

    If they stopped acting like typical brothers arguing things might be explained/said better xD

    • Klaus

      But this is the next day. It is no longer Kyle’s birthday.

      • Derkins

        And there was a spell actually cast on Kyle, under very specific circumstances. It seems Anni was sincere in wanting Kyle to be unharmed and able to go about his life. I’d bet there isn’t much of a danger of Kyle being the target of another spell. Anni’s goal wasn’t to bring about the Apocalypse by bringing demons to earth — that’s more Llampros’ prerogative — it was to become immortal and to rule America. I just don’t see another portal to hell being what Team Silver is up to at the moment. They had some sort of ulterior motive for all this, and Llampros/Kyle were a means to that end, whatever it was. I just realized we’re all glazing over what that might be, assuming instead that there are going to be demons/portals involved.

        I admit, though, that Tsunami could be thinking any number of things, all of which I’d say are wild guesses and assumptions.

        • Klaus

          Opening a portal is Duncan and PP’s part of the deal, Why make the deal if they are not going to do it? But since they don’t want Demons to overrun America, it would make little sense to open the portal there.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Regrettably, if that line of logic were true then the Annihilator would have kept Red Hot prisoner after Laampros returned them to Earth.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Ah, good point.

      • Hmm.. maybe. Unless that might be a sure way to have the team easily trace them. There was the tracker, but somehow I think Spooky might be able to find him anyway if needed to – and it would be noticed if Kyle didn’t show up later.

        Also.. this could be a theory from Tsunami’s side – or who knows what reaction could come out of Kyle being around demonic ‘openings’.

        It could also be the whole uncertainty in the new power level Kyle have reached and/or his connection to Laampros. Can we be sure that he couldn’t make use of Kyle?

        There’s a LOT of options with the new info we have about Kyle, but all of them can make Kyle’s presense at the scene risky because they can’t forsee the cause and reaction.
        In generel I still agree with Tsunami’s arguments.
        He just has a crappy way of making them xD

        • Derkins

          That first theory is assuming our villains view the rest of the young protectors as a threat, even remotely.

          • I think PP is very aware of Spooky’s powers. They’ve had some kind of contact before, since Spooky has warned Kyle about her earlier.
            That she also has a lot of magic going now as a diversion shows that she takes the time to cover up her actions – Spooky is included in the group that can find her.
            The group as a whole might not be seen as the big threat.. but Spooky (and probably Amanda) is someone they know to be careful of 🙂

  • fujoshifanatic

    Oh Gordon…I think it’s time for you to just be quiet now, because I have a feeling that things will get unpleasant rather quickly if you answer the last question along the path that you’re currently treading. This really was NOT how I wanted Kyle’s sexuality and/or demon parentage to be brought up, but I guess Tsunami is hell-bent on taking it there, and more than likely with the expected results. :-

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Or maybe Gordon will surprise us all and make some argument like the one Danish brought up, that Kyle could be a component in opening the portal.

      • fujoshifanatic

        i’m crossing my fingers and hoping that is the case!

      • Derkins

        but… I thought he was referring to Kyle’s reasons for going to hell in the first place?

        • stickfigurefairytales

          I was focusing more on the “for all we know, you could make things a lot worse” part of his remark, myself.

    • Derkins

      Maybe it’s best if he airs out his thoughts, instead of letting them stew… if that’s how he sees kyle. someone needs to set him straight. the commander, most likely. :/

  • Sapfo

    Seems like the camping train did not work, but the walk did it 😉
    And look! Kyle can speak after all 😀

  • mogoskier

    Two things
    1. I love Kyle hair in the second panel.
    2. I understand what Gordon (we have a real name:) ) is saying but I don’t like that “something else” comment. That just saying something in you wanted to be bad, which is the farthest thing from the truth.

  • Klaus

    The logo on the harness is a nice touch.

  • Jen Roberts

    And Kyle makes the argument I was making last page: He’s not a child now! He’s 18! That’s… kind of part of how this whole thing started. ^_^; Also his hair in that panel (and his face. And just everything)… yum!
    I’m thinking Tsu… GORDON (hee) is talking about how Kyle might have too personal a stake in this. He might not be objective when he’s got guilt and/or revenge on his mind. At least, I HOPE that’s what he’s talking about.

  • Librarican

    Sings quietly in the corner “happy birthday to me”
    Blows out candle.
    Crawls into bed.
    Good night.

    • Happy Birthday!

    • Happy Birthday, Librarican 🙂

    • Happy Birthday!!!

    • SofiaT

      Happy birthday!!! 🙂

    • Jen Roberts

      Happy Birthday!

    • mogoskier

      Happy Birthday

    • Happy birthday to you!

    • silibub

      Happy Birthday! <3

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Happy birthday, Librarican!

    • Happy birthday, Librarican! I hope you had a great day! 😀

    • Elrohir

      A very Happy Birthday indeed, Librarican!

    • purplefoxglove

      Happy Birthday! 🙂

    • Librarican

      Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes! I had a long bike ride, my beau surprised me with some romantic gestures, and caught dinner at a swanky restaurant. All in all, a very good day indeed!

    • bronakopdin

      Happy belated Birthday 😀

  • Toli Bera

    He means Kyle’s emotionally compromised and might go full vulcan down there.

  • again… oh dear.

    • Chris!!! How are you doing sweetie?

    • Can only agree with you o_o
      Doesn’t take a lot to say things in all the wrong ways, or so they get misunderstood.

      • Derkins

        happens to me a lot since i get so wordy… >.>

    • Yay Chris!!! Long time no see (and very much missed!)

    • Sapfo

      I think you could just say “bo” and still get many upvotes 😉

      • Of course! It is Chris after all! ^_^ We await his every word ^_^

        • Mauricio Guaura

          ^_^

  • Saxon_Brenton

    I need a really silly idea in order to cleanse my thyoughts after using the Dark and Paranoid Conspiracy Theory Stick (it always does Bad Things to my headspace when I use it…)
    So: The real reason that Annihilator let Red Hot go free after Laampros returned the two of them to Earth is that Annihilator and the Platinum Priestess knew this would happen. Dissent among their opponents, I mean. The Priestess is using that scrying brazier thingummy that we saw in the ‘Something’s Brewing’ art, and the two of them are currently dressed in their jammies/onesies, sharing a bowl of popcorn, and laughing uproariously as they watch Tsumani, Red Hot and Fluke squabble over who gets to participate in the fight scene. The villains know that all the big name superheroes are off-Earth because of the Crisis, and they’re geting their evil lolz watching of the only defenders the planet has left bickering like… children.

    • Klaus

      And then again, maybe not. I expect PP to be very busy with opening the gate.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        Oh, in any sort of serious version of the story they’re definately busy with the gate. This is the silly version, where they get to be prats and goof off. In this version the reason Annihilator gave to Laampros about *why* he and the Priestess wanted to make a deal was probably a lie, and the whole thing was staged to feed false information to Red Hot just to mess with the Young Protectors so the bad guys could laugh at them.

  • Oh dear. I can see ways in which what Tsunami is saying is sensible, but that is not the right way to say it. It makes it look entirely too much like it’s about prejudice of one sort or another.

    I do wonder how much the authorities, including possibly the legal adults on the team, already knew or suspected about Kyle’s background? If this is confirmation of worst fears about Kyle, there may be other things Tsunami is worried about.

  • bronakopdin

    …Gorden?! For Real?!

    ^^ Somehow if people are called Gorden, I always hear “garden” for some reason….

    “Gorden darling, can you please go out for watering the plants?”
    “…babe… just call me Tsunami!”

    … OK that one was poor, but I couldn’t help myself xD

    Though I agree that he should stop running against that wall for a moment. Even though his reasonings might be valid I doubt Kyle and Paul are even truely listening right now, especially Kyle…
    I sure am curious for waht comes next! Will He even spill the beans?
    Let’s hope for that!

    quick question: I know Kyle just turned 18 and all, and in Germany that sure is legal age, but somehow I always thought in the US you need to be 21? Or was that only about alcohol and clubbing?

    • It’s 21 for drinking. Not sure about the clubbing. At 18 he’s definitely an adult. He can vote and join the army, yo! Also legally sign contracts.

      • 18 for clubbing ^_^

        • bronakopdin

          thanks ^^

        • Derkins

          But you get a mark on your hand, so you can’t drink inside the club till your’e 21. It’s just that some establishments will let you in if you’re 18, to be in the same atmosphere. But I think if it’s a true bar that doesn’t sell any food then 18 yr olds still can’t come in. Silly rules.

      • Takehai

        21 for drinking alcohol if you are a civilian. In the military, they will sell you alcohol on post at 18 if you are enlisted. The reasoning I’ve always heard is that the military figures if you you are responsible enough to be trusted to use firearms so that you can fight and die for your country, you are responsible enough to be trusted with alcohol.

        • All alcohol or just beer and wine? I believe some places make a distinction between hard liquor, and beer and wine.

          • Takehai

            Can’t speak outside of my experience, but any alcohol that was legal for sale in that state was available.

          • Good to know!

            Makes sense too, I mean if a body is old enough to serve their country and to vote, they should be old enough to drink.

          • Derkins

            All alcohol, because it’s about your intoxication level, not what you drank specifically. Though to be fair I’m pretty sure even minors have a legal blood alcohol limit, that is super low. So technically they can have *some* alcohol in their system legally.

          • Interesting. I know when say on a cruise ship, if you’re in international waters, they will serve beer and wine if you’re 18, but need to be 21 for the other stuff.

            At least the last time I was on a cruise and that was a long ass time ago.

          • Derkins

            I’ve heard that too.

        • bronakopdin

          I can’t really deny that logic and in most parts of the world you are alloud to drink with 18 anyway, so 🙂

      • bronakopdin

        alrighty, thanks for the info 🙂

    • It’s Gordon, not Gorden.. but yeah xD

      • bronakopdin

        xD Oh well, my fault for writing so early in the morning with too less sleep… at least the phonetics are the same ^^
        still I corrected it *cough*

  • silibub

    “This isn’t about you, Kyle.”

    “I’m the protagonist of this comic — this is literally all about me.”

    • SofiaT

      Word!

    • Nail on the head! :3

    • A2MOM

      Perfect; I love it 🙂

  • JepMZ

    I don’t read the blog post underneath the comic much so I squealed in surprise when i saw your name looking through the gamerx2 con schedule today. I can’t wait to visit your panel!

    • Cool! Be sure to introduce yourself to me by mentioning you’re a commenter and what you’re commenting name is. Be great to see you! 🙂

  • Katsu Imvu

    Is it to late to push Tsunami out of the aircraft?

  • TwilightDreamer

    Well done for speaking up Kyle 🙂
    OUCH!! >.:(…..yeah, I think I know what he’s saying (IF he knows what actually happened to Kyle, still not sure if he does or not), he could either become too focused on taking out annihilator, OR Anni would know how to distract or throw him off focus…
    …but still, after he’s feeling bad enough about the situation!
    rofl….sorry…this is coming from someone who doesn’t do well with brutal honestesty….;P

  • SofiaT

    The funny thing is that, while Tsunami has me gritting my teeth and anxiously waiting for the next page, hoping he didn’t mean what I think he meant about Kyle causing this (*shakes fist at Tsunami*), I totally agree with the rest of his speech. They are all too young and too “green” for a fight of such epic proportions, too enthusiastic and eager to prove themselves -especially Mitch- and that can be very dangerous. Also, there are many reasons why Kyle confronting The Annihilator so soon after their hellish date is a bad idea.

    …But bad idea or not, I’m very excited about that last part and can’t wait to see these two on the same, um, page again together. >:D

    • Next page, next page!

      I want to know what’s going to happen NOOOOOW dammit!

      Are they going to rumble? Is Tsunami going to pull his foot from his mouth? Is he going to insert his other foot? What is going to happen?????

      *pouts until next page is up*

      • SofiaT

        I think Amanda will intervene soon. Tsunami -or should I say “Gordon”?- has his foot too deep in his mouth to be able to take it out any time soon; and Amanda has been too quiet so far. Remember how fierce Amanda was when she was defending Spooks in that police station? I can’t see her staying silent for much longer… Even if she’d rather the boys weren’t on that boat either.

        I hope she won’t intervene too soon though. I’d really like to hear, along with Fluke, what was that supposed to mean?

        • I think she’ll need to. If he shoves that foot any further into his mouth, I can see a big huge rift growing between those three boys.

          And yes, I’m very curious where Gordon is going with this.

          • SofiaT

            …You just love saying “Gordon”, now that you finally know his name, don’t ya? 😀

          • Haha! Who knows what I’ll do next. I could call him TG for TsunamiGordon or maybe FG for Flash Gordon. Or maybe call him Gordy! 😛

          • SofiaT

            Flash Flood!! 😛

          • LOL! I like it. So FF for short?

            FF Gordy. Sounds like a name for a novelist.

  • Pikinanou

    I’m quite fond of Kyle in panel 2: his hair looks a bit down and I think it fits him well 🙂 gives him a Scott Summers vibe

    • Derkins

      me too. the look on his face, and the hair. super cute.

    • ……I like the look but not the Scott Summers bit….he was always my least favorite of the X-Men….But to each their own ^_^ (My faves have always been Rogue, Storm, Gambit, Jubilee, and Wolverine, Nightcrawler is a recent addition ^_^)

      Kyle’s hair the past couple of pages has been outstandingly awesome ^_^

  • TwoWayStar

    I was with Tsunami up to the point where he said “you could make things a lot worse.”

    He is pintedly referring to Kyle here. Now I’m looking at that line about “maybe it was something else” with extreme suspicion…does he think Kyle did this knowingly?! or HALF-knowingly?!

  • purplefoxglove

    Argh, Tsunami! You really have a way with words – all of your very reasonable points are carefully wrapped in such a manner that absolutely has your conversational partner going through the roof.

    That aside, he may have a point – I agree with Danish that if Kyle’s powers could be used by Anni once, Team Silver may be able to do so again.
    Even if that’s not the case, we can’t know if going to hell hasn’t meddled with Kyle’s powers somehow. He was stronger in hell than before – he could burn Duncan. Did that effect last? We know the spell didn’t leave any negative effects on Kyle, but if his powers suddenly grew, that would probably not register as being negative. Taking into consideration that his powers respond to Kyle’s emotions, they might easily get out of control.

    Which leads to the next point: Kyle wants REVENGE. And justice, and to undo his mistake, but first and foremost, it’s revenge. Tsunami might be afraid that the team can’t count on him to keep following orders, especially if provoked. Kyle might simply rush at Duncan, ignoring possible dangers and traps, followed by pissed-off Paul, angry Mitch, mad Spooky and a raging horde of pitchfork-bearing betrayed fans…Yeah, well. Not so good. If you go up against the most feared supervillian of the world and his ally, you want to keep control of the situation.

    I also want a virtual cookie for bringing up the “if they’re too young and inexperienced to fight, don’t bring them along” issue the page before Tsunami addressed it. 😉

    • Draymorden

      It seemed that team Silver needed Kyle to trust him completely for it to work.

      • purplefoxglove

        For that special spell, yes. We don’t know if the same goes for any other spell…

    • Derkins

      I’m convinced that the reason he was able to burn Duncan is because he was enraged at the time. Like you said, his powers are closely linked to his emotions.

      • purplefoxglove

        It also somewhat mirrors the discussion here:

        http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch3pt1-page-16/

        ^^

        • Miri

          Love how equally pissed he is at the idea of not wanting to be Kyle’s friend any more, and at the idea that Kyle isn’t 100% trustworthy 🙂 He might sometimes be very much a 17 year old lad (i.e. not great at reading how other people are feeling, trying his hardest but not helping) but he knows what friendship is! <3

          • Derkins

            I completely agree. 🙂

  • Miri

    I really hope he means that he’s concerned Kyle was compelled to end up in that situation, rather than “you were either exercising poor judgement, or you were consciously planning on betraying everything you’ve ever been and going over to the dark side, but your big buff sugar daddy left you nekkid and alone in the burnt out shell of a warehouse so you called your friends crying and have been treating us like pawns in your own personal revenge fantasy since then”…

    • purplefoxglove

      I hope it’s “you were so madly in love you didn’t think about judging”…although that’s not particularly charming, either. Better than a possible “you didn’t care what could happen”, which still doesn’t mean Kyle knew what was going to happen and went for it.

      • Miri

        Yeah, there are some not-exactly-terrible-or-inaccurate things he could mean, but what a way of phrasing it in a heated discussion with a young man who had to be reminded that he’s not a monster less than 24 hours previously, and one of the people in the world who’s least likely to accept people treating him like scum over it all..! *rolls eyes*

    • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

      I bet he means “Because you’re part demon, and for all we know, your homo ass is the portal to their dark dimension.”

  • Alu79

    I don’t get the Tsunami hate or why people are saying he has his foot in his mouth. What he is saying is completely correct. Kyle could make things infinitely worse because he has no idea how his presence could change things. He was needed to start this whole mess in the first place and showing up now could be EXACTLY what’s needed for anything to happen.

    He could be needed close by as an anchor for his dad to actually pass through, he could be further manipulated against his will, his dad could maybe have the power to command him to attack his allies, etc. He really should not be there since he doesn’t even have full control of his powers to begin with.

    And hello people, he JUST lost his virginity to the guy who made a deal with his dad to end the world. What is he expected to do when faced against anni? What if he loses focus? Freezes? Or worse loses his temper and tries to fight and loses control of his powers? Which could aid in the destruction of the world.

    They really need to put his cute butt on a bus back home. I like Kyle, but his head isn’t in the game. He is coming at this from the wrong angle and is missing the point, that it isn’t about being his fault that he needs to make it right, it is about saving the world. If he can’t see past his guilt enough to see that, then he has no right being there.

    • Draymorden

      Well if I was Commander, I would know that Kyle is going to go down there no matter what any of them say. And since he is going to do that, I would prefer to have him with me rather then as a 3rd party that is going to fuck up our plans because he doesn’t know the plan.
      Also Commander is in the best position to monitor Kyle’s emotions and be there to temper him if need be. And if things get bad, they can have Mitch fly him out.

      • Derkins

        I agree! And really it’s not the points Tsunami is making, but the way he is communicating them that is so wrong. When you speak to people that way it only works against you.
        If it hurts a person’s pride to agree with you, because you’re belittling them/talking down to them, then they never will agree with you — you aren’t giving them the chance. If you need someone to agree with you, then you must allow them to save face. Never-mind that mentioning Kyle’s choice for going through with the thing that happened with Anni feels totally out of line. He clearly has little to no empathy, and knows very little about what happened. And I kinda wanna punch him for it.

        • Miri

          One thing I’ve come across a few times? “If you want to lead, don’t give the people you command an order they will not and cannot follow”. That’s just asking for trouble!

    • SofiaT

      It’s not what he says (mostly), it’s how he says it.
      And he’s speaking to teenagers eager to prove themselves. If anything, his speech is accomplishing the opposite of convincing them they shouldn’t fight.

      • esh

        “It’s not what I do, but how I do it.
        It’s not what I say, but how I say it.
        And how I look when I do it and I say it.”
        Mae West. So true!

    • Amber Rose

      To paraphrase one of my favourite books, one of the hardest lessons a commander has to learn is how to avoid giving commands that won’t be followed. Better to allow certain unwise things with heavy supervision and restriction than to forbid it outright and have a mutiny on your hands.

      • Casey Pick

        What’s the book? Sounds like one I’d like to read.

  • Nate

    Open your mouth a little wider, Tsunami. You need to make room for your foot.

    • Derkins

      Yeah he needs to stop talking now. He’s validating all of the assumptions I made about him being arrogant, feeling superior, and having no clue how to talk to a team mate, much less someone whose under your charge.

  • A2MOM

    Might he be named after Gordon Freeman 🙂 ? Probably not; my inner nerd just brought him to mind.

    Amanda hasn’t stopped them yet….It will be interesting to see if she let’s them handle this or intervenes. So far I like her hands off approach.

    • Kate G

      Or James Gordon, Batman’s eventual police ally, (Na na na na na na na na BATMAN!) *coughs*

      Maybe his name is a reference to both characters?

    • Acintyabedhabedhadasa

      or could it be….
      (bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom)
      Flash, Flay-aaaaaash, he’s the ruler of the universe!

  • John

    So… Tsunami takes clothes off? Won’t take many to make me pay attention!
    (No that is not a euphemism. Yet 😛 )

  • Kate G

    Gordon, you make very good, very reasonable points. But, you are talking to teenagers. Teenagers with very thick, one-minded brains. Do you think wording it the way you did is going to be productive? Um, no. I expect a verbal war in 3, 2…

    And Kyle is looking especially yummy in panel 2, if I am allowed to say so. Very, VERY yummy.

    • Cydney Sabin

      As of midnight (in story, of course), Kyle’s legal. So I’d say you’re allowed.

      • Kate G

        HA HA HA HA HA. All of us older ladies are totally molesting poor Kyle. And I’m not even that much old than him (7 years.)

        • Cydney Sabin

          I’m only three years. And I’d molest the CRAP out of him. Wait, that came out wrong…

          • Kate G

            *snort* *giggle* No, that didn’t come out right.

            But, when does any comment from fangirls fangirling come out sounding politically correct? We all sound like obsessive little stalkers and we should be given protective orders to stay 500 feet from the person from whom we are obsessed.

          • Cydney Sabin

            As a fanboy who is constantly surrounded by various fangirls of many fandom denominations, I can honestly say: We are.

          • Steven K.

            Unless you are into that sort of thing. 😉

    • Steven K.

      Kyle ALWAYS looks yummy. *SIGH!*

  • Shinashi

    This is not the best time to tell them they are no good for a fight. XD I love the tension! 😀

  • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

    *Sigh* Somebody give the man a lesson in tact, asap. He needs to learn reverse psychology at least. Because everything he says is driving them the opposite direction.

  • Mauricio Guaura

    Hey Alex! I know this is kind of a weird thing to ask, but have you ever considered changing Kyle’s outfit? I mean, superheroes get new attires all the time and Kyle’s…uh…fire crotch is kinda distracting.
    N-Nothing big, though! Some seams…a belt, maybe?

    • Kate G

      Oh, but seams and a belt would make it MUCH worse if you think about it. It’s not as bad as Fluke’s design, if you ask me. His design points TO his crotch. Kyle’s design more divides his top from his bottom and the flame pulls attention AWAY from the crotch area to the face to his beautiful eyes and hair.

      Batman didn’t change his basic Batsuit until the 1989 when Tim Burton showed Batman in a suit with armor over a suit with tights (which is all he had previously been shown in all of the comics and movies before Batman.) So that is…….60 years worth of Spandex jokes before Batman got revamped. Even longer for Superman. He didn’t armor until, you guessed it, Man of Steel. So that means Superman went without armor in movies from 1938-2012 (he has had “armor”-like outfits in comics for the past decade.) I wonder how many Spandex jokes HE got. Superman’s outfit is still relatively unchanged aside from that though. So, costume redesigns don’t change as often as you think.

  • Adam Irving

    I wondered if he’d go there and, yup, you did not disappoint! Can’t wait to see if this conversation will get interrupted at any moment by them finding their quarry…or their quarry finding them!

  • Dennis Grace

    Tsunami is overlooking the vey strong possibility that Kyle is truly the only one who can fix this mess.

    • Indeed!

    • Klaus

      He made this mess, and he is the only one who can make it worse.

      • Dennis Grace

        No, I’m pretty sure any of them could make matters worse.

  • SugarPlumFairy

    I’m still smelling a lot of “Dark Kyle” being foreshadowed here, and everywhere. But that may just be because that’s what I would love to see! Mwahuhuhuhahahahaaaa

  • Klaus

    I just realised: the silver duo does not want the Americas overrun with demons. Should they not then open the gate elsewhere?

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Good point.

  • Toli Bera

    I agree with what Tsunami’s saying, but not HOW he’s saying it.

  • Happy 4th of July to all of you in US 🙂

    • Camping out for the fourth, Danish? 😉

      • ‘Fun fact’.. Denmark is the only country outside US that also have a specific celebration for the day, and has had for the longest time. If not the only country then the one with the biggest regular event.

        Not that we all celebrate it, but there’s a place in Denmark where abroad living- and Danish-Americans living in Denmark meet every year, along with who ever feel like showing up, and it’s been like that for just over 100 years now.
        There’s music performances, speeches and singing.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Cool! Are you doing anything to celebrate?

          • No, not really. Spent the night watching tv 🙂
            I’ve never gone to the place where they celebrate.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Well then you celebrated with tv watching. Like I’m currently celebrating with being on the computer reading fanfic.

        • Ooh didn’t know that! ‘Knowledge is power!’ 😉

          I celebrated with steak, BBQ potatoes/onions/carrots and strawberry short cake *groans*

  • I may or may not be camping….my head is trying to kill me.

    • DemureDesire

      I shouldn’t camp. I have to get up at 5:30 because for some reason beyond my comprehension I agreed to go in and work a double tomorrow, so I’ll be spending from 7:00 am to 11:00 pm in a nursing home, trying to stay awake and not kill my patients, either accidentally or deliberately.

      Ah, well, that’s what caffeine and 5 hour energy shots are for, right?

      • …..I want to say something obscure related to luck, but my head won’t let me think it

        So I will have to say “I wish you luck in surviving” I am not sure I could. ^_^

        • DemureDesire

          It’s the thought (or the thought of the thought?) that counts.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Geez, that’s rough. Good luck surviving!

        • DemureDesire

          Thanks.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Oh no! I hope you feel better soon!

      • Not sure if the headache is food related or sleep being completely wacky related

        …..or it might be related to this really great Hikaru no Go fanfic I am reading that is destroying me

  • SofiaT

    Camping time!

    And not to brag (totally gonna brag!) but guess where yours truly was yesterday: http://s762.photobucket.com/user/SofiaT_R2D2/media/10368928_10152527632487744_2249651998456359779_o_zpsf9c448f8.jpg.html 😀

    • What? No crown?

      • SofiaT

        (paraphrasing Tolkien)
        “…and the crown-less shall be Queen” :p

        • Well then, have at it!

          • SofiaT

            I waited for close to 8hours at that damn queue. The least I could do was sit at the Iron Throne, crown or no crown!

            The best part was going up The Wall though. They had a virtual reality setting and it was amazing -you could even feel the wind!

          • Dayam, girl! That’s super human line waiting. And, definitely, you deserve to sit on that dang throne after all that!

            That VR sounds cool.

          • SofiaT

            You could hear people screaming while wearing the 4D glasses and the headphones. I jumped too at some point (and I may or may not have screamed). Being on the top of The Wall was scary (long way down!) and definitely worth the wait!

          • I probably would have screamed considering that just seeing heights in movies makes me cover my eyes. 🙂

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Unfotunately I can’t stay.for camping. I need to leave with the next ten minutes or so for RPGing, and am going through the usual last minute preps (have I packed my dice and character sheets…). I’ll be back in 6 hours or so for the page 40 post-mortem – as in, will Tsunami kill Fluke and Red Hot, will Fluke and Red Hot kill Tsumnami, or will Commander kill all of them…

      • SofiaT

        Have fun RPGing!

  • mogoskier

    Happy 4th of July. Hope your enjoying the fireworks.

    • About 2 hours till the fireworks here.

      • SofiaT

        I keep forgetting that it’s yesterday in the US 😛

        • I keep having to figure out where in tomorrow you are. 😀

          • SofiaT

            It’s saturday afternoon on this side of the planet!
            Sun will set in one hour 🙂

          • So the days are starting to get a little longer for you while ours are now getting shorter. Which is funny, because it’s only going to get hotter here.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I’m listening to some in the distance.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Aw man, just after I decided to go take a shower!

  • Kate G

    A lot of “costume changes” have been one issue changes only. Some changes have been built upon previous suits. New 52 is the newest update to Superman, but considering all things, it’s still the basic Superman colors and outfit. Superman hasn’t had the kind of redesign that the characters of Batman has had. After Batman (1989), Batman’s outfit in the comics changes drastically as does Nightwing’s outfit.

    Of course, I’m not one to judge what a costume change is. Some might consider even minor adjustments large. Considering all things, there are other characters in the comic verse that have had even bigger changes than Batman.

  • Jac

    Gotta take everything he says personally NOW of all times?

    This is why he called you “children”. Just saying.

  • D. Garrett

    uh oh!