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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 48

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“Foul creature”? Dude, that’s his Dad. Show some respect!

I’d like to give one more shout out for the final week of the Clockwork Game Graphic Novel Kickstarter which designer Paul Sizer (who is currently working on The Young Protectors Volume One book and trading cards) is intimately involved with. I’m a backer and they are doing wicked cool things with the binding of the hardcover version of their book. Do check it out.

We had our eighteenth bonus page in a row on Wednesday and look below! We’re already at $173 towards our next bonus page!

Special thanks go out to long-time supporters Marianne L. & Barbara K. (both making their second generous donations to The Young Protectors!), Deanna H. (who makes their third generous donation to The Young Protectors!), & Rory P. (who makes their fifth generous donation to The Young Protectors!), and a warm welcome and grateful bow go out to new supporter Chad E. for their generous donations over the last few days!

Big hugs go out to long-time friends Pam W., joshua G., & Robert B. for their super-generous $25 donations! And this makes Pam’s fifth, Robert’s forty-first, (!) and joshua’s forty-third (!!) super-generous donations to this comic!

And finally, superhero-strength hugs go out to long-time superfriend Christopher M. for their amazingly generous $59 donation! Thank you very, very much, Christopher—you are SUPER COOL!

Thank you all so much for your generous support!

So! The Annihilator seems to be engaging in Olympics level verbal gymnastics, our hero is still chained to a bed and the next page is the last page of Chapter 2! What will the last page bring us? And what new adventures await us in Chapter 3?

Tune in next Saturday this Wednesday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! Edit 11/18/13 11:15 PM: You’ve done it again! Thanks to your amazing generosity, the donation bar has yet again tipped over its target. That means that in addition to our regular update this Saturday (the first page of Chapter 3!), there will also be a bonus page (page 49!) this Wednesday! Thank you so, so much! Hope to see you there!

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  • Anni, Anni, Anni..

    • Holly

      DAMN IT TO HELL!

      • *kekekeke* It was purely luck.
        I’ve just been commenting on another comic and came back to check. Was sure I was ‘late’ since being occupied elsewhere, but no comments, and then no one said anything for a couple of mins, and I decided I better tell xD

        • Holly

          Alex didn’t give the usual warning so I wasn’t reloading as rapidly as usual. *curls in a ball to cry*

          • CH

            Perfect choice there Alex.

          • I love you even more for that reply.
            (tries no to sound creepy)

          • Holly

            Now is NOT the time to make my brain connect you with Moffat Alex. Not the time at all…

            Happy you are having fun though. XD

          • Are you comparing yourself to Moriarty, Alex? I can imagine you as a sassy, maniacal British man. Why not?

          • Sapfo

            Poor Holly!
            Sorry, I have no cookies this time. But if it makes you happy you can get … <..> … eeeh
            this used candle…. I get you cookies next week.

        • Sapfo

          I dont know what suck more. Not being able to camp or not taking the virgin?

    • There was this one time…I made it to the first comment. I almost shit myself with excitement.

  • SofiaT

    No shit Sherlock.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Reminds me of the movie Airplane, where the guy is telling the old lady the story of his life and when he is finished he finds that she hung herself and is mummified.

    • b3nc0

      But alas, Kyle isn’t free of his move, so can’t commit self-deliverance x_x

  • Tina

    Next page is the last page of Chapter 2?! How could it possibly end?! Maybe with a kiss? lol

  • Holly

    Why can’t I get the image of Kyle shouting, “That’s my FATHER, you’re talking about.” when Duncan calls Laampros a foul creature.

    Also, way to break my heart. First no “page in the oven” then this lovely speech from Duncan about how Kyle showed him how happiness is possible.

    Okay now, will SOMEONE please release Kyle from that damn bed?! please?!

    • silibub

      Or if not, Duncan better drop a shirt or something over his groin so he can finish the chapter with a modicum of dignity.

      • Steven K.

        Ditto to that too!

      • Holly

        Oh now I can’t stop imagining Duncan just leaving Kyle troussed up like a Christmas Turkey, nude, and waiting for his Team.

        • silibub

          If it’s any consolation, I think Duncan will at least do him the courtesy of preserving his modesty if he’s just going to leave Kyle there. I doubt Duncan actually wants to embarrass or hurt Kyle more than he already has.

          • Holly

            Yeah I don’t really give Duncan the benefit of the doubt anymore, even after all his pretty speeches.

          • silibub

            Ha! Well I can’t blame you for that!

      • b3nc0

        Duncan is only enjoying the view as long as possible… Wouldn’t you? He certainly won’t see anymore of it for… like… NEVER!

    • Steven K.

      Ditto!
      Ditto! and
      DITTO!

    • dereule101

      Yeah, but the page came just before midnight EST anyway, which I think is great!

  • Oh Duncan, you and your guilt… Karma’s gonna kick your ass good in due time.

  • dereule101

    Foul creature? Takes one to know one, buddy!

  • silibub

    The next page is the end of the chapter?! Wow, I’m glad it didn’t end on a cliffhanger while they were still in the demon world, but it’s kind of a gut-punch knowing that the next page could very well involve Duncan dropping the bomb that he’s going to contact Kyle’s team, and then leave him in the warehouse for them to collect.

    Usually when people become grimly cognizant of their mortality, their response is to buy a sports car or get a dramatic haircut, Duncan. Why can’t you have a normal midlife/existential crisis, huh?

    • Holly

      I don’t think the super set do anything normal, Sili

      • silibub

        Much to the rest of the world’s detriment!

        • Holly

          In Altered Fates, Lacey is functionally immortal due to her father’s messing around. Also, Island of Extinct animals.

    • Klaus

      With Duncan, everything is larger than life.

    • b3nc0

      Yeah, why? The all going-out-with-someone-waaayyy-younger thing should have been enough, shouldn’t it?

  • rgleon9986

    Aaaaaah! Its up!

    Still monologuing, Duncan?

    • Holly

      It’s so much easier to do your monologue when the hero is mute.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        No one to interrupt your “great’ monologue. 😛

      • CH

        But is he mute again just because he couldn’t break the chains?

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          He hasn’t spoken since the chains pulled him back. So presumably, the spell has reasserted itself.

          • b3nc0

            That’s what I think too, & Duncan put his hand on Kyle’s chest again…

  • Next page the last of chapter 2! Woah all the bonus pages makes it feel like it’s gone by so fast o_o

    Oh lord.. does this mean a new kickstarter in near future? The first isn’t even complete yet. When ever it is, I’m gonna start saving what I can already now. I can’t wait to see what comes along with the comic next time 😀

    • SofiaT

      I wonder if there’s gonna be another interlude. If there isn’t, I can see chapters 2&3 as volume 2 and and 4&5 as volume 3.

      Now that I know the next page is going to be the chapter’s last one, I’m even more anxious for Wed/day to arrive than usual…

      • silibub

        Whoo, you’re psychic!

        • SofiaT

          *gasps* …Could I and the Commander be related??

          • How much are charging for reading Alex’s mind and providing spoilers? 🙂

          • SofiaT

            If I knew what Alex is planning ahead I would share it with the world like the good girl I am… and like you’ll share with me the Annihilator’s secret history when you get that dossier on your hands. *hint, hint*

            That said, I’m convinced Alex even sleeps wearing Magneto’s helmet because there’s no telling what he’s planned next. Reading his mind is impossible -impossible I tell ya!

    • The first Kickstarter was for Volume One which comprises the Prologue, Chapter One, the Interlude and a special Spooky/Commander bonus comic.

      There are two more volumes. The next Volume will include both Chapters 2 and 3 and additional material, so we’re still a ways away from that. 🙂

      Glad it feels like it’s moving along! 😀

      • Oh right! I was getting ahead of myself there. But when a chapter ends, it means the kickstarter’s time comes closer 🙂
        I heard chapter 3 should be a long one? I can’t wait to see what you bring up there .. and THEN later on for the next kickstarter.

        • LOL. I’m still excited with the stuff I’m working on for the current Kickstarter (I’m getting close to pulling the trigger for an order of Spooky Caps :D).

          But I will admit, I have been thinking about what other nice goodies would be fun for future Kickstarters…

          • SofiaT

            Like Duncan and Kyle body pillows? 😀

          • CH

            Or at least body pillow cases (much more feasible for shipping and such)

          • davefragments

            somebody wants to hug a hunk!
            🙂

          • No no no that way will take forever…. Lets reverse that…

            Those who DON’T want to hug hunk please raise your hands…

            Okay, that one…….. two……… threee…… and….. @silibub:disqus put your hand down, Sircea does not count as a hunk for the purposes of THIS polll, don’t worry we’ll do a separate questionnaire for her… promise. 😀

            Nooooee… I see you Amanada… “George” is also a special case, yes, as is Clave and Cathy.

            Okay… please excuse me while I go tally all this up.

            (ahem) Yes… we can assume for the purposes of this poll, HUNK = Duncan, so really Sofia you can take that second hand down, you’re not really fooling anyone….

            My gosh you lot are so tricksy… 😀

            *chris trindles off with all the voting tabs and those short little #2 pencils*

          • Holly

            i honestly never touch my fandom pillows. I have a Cloud who just stares at me. I don’t want him to get worn…

          • SofiaT

            I honestly don’t know if there will be a market for body pillows (while I joke about it I doubt I’d actually get one) but I could easily see myself buying a Duncan pillow for my rockin’ chair 🙂

          • Holly

            hehe plushies.

          • SofiaT

            I’d get one of those! I loved @Feverfew_M:disqus’s amigurumi of Anni, want one for myself!

          • He stares, you stare, he stares back you st…. why does this sound so familiar?

          • mogoskier

            Body pillows with charters have freak me out ever since I heard about this http://metro.co.uk/2010/03/09/man-marries-pillow-154906/

          • SofiaT

            This… is.. scary… o.O

          • mogoskier

            I know, I’ve heard of worse but for some reason this just effects me.

          • Holly

            GEORGE WATER KEYCHAINS!

          • SofiaT

            …what’s a “water” keychain?

          • I was about to ask that too. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            It’s such an honour to have the same “huh?” moments as you! *total fangirling* 😛

          • Holly

            “OH EM GEE! Alex and I are confused by THE SAME THINGS!!!

            I love you Sof. *huggles*

          • SofiaT

            😀

          • You’re so cute, Sofia!

          • SofiaT

            LOL, I was only kiddin’ 😀

          • I know, it’s adorable though. :P!

          • LOL

          • CH

            The kind where the inner ball floats inside the outer one so it’s always looking at you?

          • Holly

            YES EXACTLY!

          • Hmmm… Interesting…

          • Holly

            They were super popular in the late 90’s early ’00s dunno if they still are in production anywhere.

          • mogoskier

            Are those the ones you squeeze and part of it balloons out. I was in love with though things as a kid.

          • davefragments

            And when I put my keys on my night stand the thing stares ALL NIGHT…

            I’ll never fall asleep!

          • Holly

            Good, sleeping is a waste of precious staring time.

          • davefragments

            ahhhh, not in my house. I NEED mah sleep..

            😉

          • Holly

            I’m an android, I can recharge while my optic sensors are still functioning…

          • Klaus

            „Så lurer der et øje i det høje.“

            Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

          • b3nc0

            Way harder than the ROT13 ¦°.9

          • Klaus

            It is from a song that caused a great deal of controversy. In fact it led to the last blasphemy trial in Denmark so far, back in 1970. Each of the four stanzas tells of a situation were the singer would like to be unobserved, from sucking her thumb as a small child to sex as an adult. Just as she is about to really enjoy it “Then an eye is lurking on high. That guy God is hard to kick out.”

            I just can’t help thinking of this every time that “eye on high” is mentioned.

          • b3nc0

            Thank you!

          • SofiaT

            Will Duncan’s dossier become available on the online store at some point or is it exclusively for backers?

            Because I’ve been kicking myself about it since I realised I missed the Kickstarter. 🙁

          • Heh. That depends a bit on how painful it is for me to make them. 🙂

            But they aren’t Kickstarter-exclusives, so it’s possible.

          • SofiaT

            *Sofia takes out the bribing purse*

          • Holly

            OOO I WANT ONE OF THOSE! *takes out….* Yeah um… I am stuck.

          • (ahem)… erm… Alex dear fellow…

            Just so I’m perfectly clear… like excruciatingly, crystal, super-duper, ultra, extra, supremely… PERFECTLY CLEAR

            Do you mean there miiiight just be a time during which I MIGHT have in hand more tantalizing secrets about the Duncan to which our little Sofia has become just a tad interested….? A time in which I could chose to share such secrets or to shamelessly keep them unto mine own self. A time during which….

            BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THE ULTIMATE POWER OF MULTIVERSE WOULD BE MINE… ALL MINE!!!!!!!
            MY PRECCCCCCCCCCIOUSSSSSSS.

            *chris notices that he is closer to the lava flow than he originally intended and eases backward*

            Erm… not that any of that matters. I was speaking only theoretically… IF I was the type of person to think that way, but since I clearly am not… please excuse me while I go do some of my meditation exercises over here….. 😀

          • SofiaT

            [*headdesk* Crap. I’m doomed.]

            Chris… have I told you lately how much I love you?

            And would you like a cookie? Please take a cookie.

            How about a foot massage? *bats eyelashes*

          • Hmmmmmmm perhaps plushies? They would be adorable… Maybe a “drama cd?”

          • Also, computer decals. I would love some little chibi Annis and Red Hots decorating my laptop. Walking advert!

          • SofiaT

            *nods frantically*

          • Klaus

            Could you make more options available next time? I understand that you want to keep things simple, but it was very frustrating to me that to get the things I wanted (the dossier and maybe the hat), I would have had to pay for a lot of stuff I didn’t want. So I ended up just buying the basic comic.

          • There’s a longer answer here, but the short answer is that it’s not likely that I’m going to get much more granular than what I did this time. If I were to change things up, I might even be less granular with the rewards. I’m just one guy—the more complicated things are, the harder it is to deliver the rewards in a timely manner and without mistakes, especially when the backers number climbs north of 1000. And delivering the rewards without a hassle for the backers is a high priority for me.

            I’m sorry to hear that the way I set things up was frustrating for you. While the $20 pledge level reward (the “basic comic”) is essentially “retail value” (with free shipping), the higher end pledge levels are really there for those who are especially interested in supporting the work in addition to getting merch they’d like. So, the higher levels really aren’t so much about “paying for stuff” (although I certainly hope backers will love all the physical rewards I’ll send them!). And the smaller number of folks at the higher levels does also allow me to offer some special, labor-intensive rewards like the physical Dossier that I wouldn’t be able to offer at unlimited quantities.

            But the good news is that many of the physical rewards will be made for sale to the general public at retail prices after the Kickstarter backers get their rewards. So, at that point, you would only be paying for stuff you’d want. As I said above, there is a chance that I won’t make the dossier available for sale to the general public (or that, if I do make it available for sale, that it would be in very limited quantities), but the cap will be available for sure.

            So, I know this isn’t the answer you wanted to hear, but I believe a Kickstarter has a very specific purpose—to raise funds to create cool stuff that would never be able to get made any other way. And while it is a blending of patronage and commerce, Kickstarter actually has a very clunky and simplistic “ordering system.” I do know that some creators choose to have a whole slew of “add-on” rewards with their projects that would address what you’re looking for (and some even use expensive 3rd party services to keep track of all that). I have yet to talk to any of those creators about what impact that has on their fulfillment process (or their sanity), but it’s not a way that would work for me.

            By my lights, I’d rather offer that level of granularity using a platform that is well-equipped to handle that level of specificity in ordering (including shipping and all the other details), namely my online store once the backers have gotten all their rewards. And if you were planning on launching your own Kickstarter project, I’d be giving you the same advice.

            But I do want to thank you for your question. I’m sorry that I can’t help you here, but I really appreciate your backing and I hope you’ll really enjoy the book I’m going to send you! 🙂

          • Klaus

            Thanks for the answer. As I said, I understand that you want to keep things simple.

    • silibub

      I feel like I’m going to need to set up a savings fund for backing Alex’s Kickstarters!

      • SofiaT

        Already on it >:D

      • As Alex just reminde me it further away than I just worded it, but I have this piggybank going where I put my small change in – just for this reason. To support comics, so I can try and not be all broke when a new comes up 🙂

        • CH

          Me too it’s a Ferrara Pan “Atomic Fireball” tin. Couldn’t find a “red hots” one.

          • Mine is a yawning sleepy teddybear piggybank. It yawns because it’s bored by the slow speed it takes to be filled 😉

          • Holly

            Mine is a blue plush piggy bank. He oinks when you put the money in.

  • CH

    So Kyle gets to end yet another chapter hastily covered after having been naked most of the time? This is becoming a pattern.

    • Holly

      End of the chapter, Kyle is Naked.

    • Adam Black

      Kyle is allergic to most fabrics.

      He breaks out in flames

      • SofiaT

        Good one.

    • Mike W

      I thought it was only mixed fabrics that got you sent to hell.

      This story is in danger of becoming theologically indefensible.

      • Holly

        All modern clothing are mixed blends silly. Unless otherwise stated…

        • Mike W

          Your woolly thinking has stopped you from cottoning onto the truth.

          • Holly

            wow, that was actually really good. A+ XD

      • Steven K.

        Maybe that’s just in Hebrew law. Polyester and the proverbial white after labor day I’m sure are the true sins.

        • Holly

          My winter Boots are white, so take that FASHION.

          • mogoskier

            I think white okay by the time winter starts, you just can’t ware it in fall

  • Mike W

    I’ve had an intuition about where this is going since the deal was struck, but don’t really want to post a potential spoiler. ( I’ve got a good track record of sussing these things out quite early. )

    • SofiaT

      Ok, now you have to tell.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Put Spoiler Alert on top. Those that don’t want to read it, don’t have to.

    • Guest

      ******** SPOILER ALERT ******

      Let’s just say “young redeemed Duncan”

      Show/hide

      • Holly

        The code is broken….

    • Mike W

      **** POTENTIAL SPOILER HIDDEN via ROT13 ***

      Let’s just say lbhatre erqrrzrq Qhapna

      • Holly

        how do I see this spoiler?

      • silibub

        Oh, so you think maybe vzzbegny qrzba bssfcevat Xlyr naq lbhatre erqrrzrq Qhapna jvyy or gbtrgure sberire?

        • Holly

          Explain this trickery to me!

          • SofiaT

            *points to Holly* What she said.

          • Mike W

            SofiaT: Could you please delete the “Guest” comment that has the revealed “spoiler” please. I suspect it’s a phantom comment caused by Holly replying in the 1/2 second before the deletion went through Disqus.

          • SofiaT

            I was about to when I saw that either Alex or AJ had done it already. If you refresh your page you’ll see it’s gone 🙂

          • Mike W

            I had and then it kept reappearing 🙁

            Feel free to delete these “please delete” comments

          • SofiaT

            Strange. Do you see it still? Because it’s gone for me. And I can see on the Disqus Mod page that it’s deleted, along with Holly’s comment right after it.

          • Mike W

            Seems to be gone now. Disqus probably has multiple servers handling traffic and there’s thus going to be some latency between deletions and page-serves being in sync.

          • Yep. That was me. I deleted it. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Fast like a ninja!

          • Holly

            T_T I MADE A MESS! OTL

          • silibub

            Ah, I googled ROT13 and the first link is a decoder! Just copy and paste the text and it’ll give you the original words.

        • Mike W

          fbzrguvat yvxr gung

          • silibub

            Gotcha. Maybe so, but all we can do is wait and see.

        • Holly

          Lbhat Erqrrzrq Qhapna zhfg fgbc Xlyr sebz gnxvat uvf cynpr ol uvf sngure’f fvqr. Ybir nobhaqf?!

          • Steven K.

            Intriguing idea.

        • Steven K.

          Gung fbhaqf unccl rabhtu.

          • b3nc0

            Qba’g sbetrg gur nez znex! Gb fnsryl erqrrz uvzfrys, Qhapna zhfg phg uvf sbernez naq erabhapr gb rgreany lbhgu.
            *sigh* brings back boyscout memories…

      • Feverfew_M

        Just what I’m hoping for, actually! 😀

        (And I’m glad you didn’t choose binary – takes so much space!)

        • Okay that was super fun, and I loved learning about rot13, but I hate to say that, that spoiler was debated to death along with time travel, memory loss and The Finnish Fish-slapping dance. I think you are wise fella MikeW, but I want BRAND SPANKING NEW spoilage. Something so shockingly spoilerish that it’s like a good soft Vacherin cheese left out in the sun just one day tooooo long. The kind of spoiler you smell coming.

          *gets out wallet*

          So whacha got?

  • davefragments

    next page can’t be the last page of anything. It’s an odd numbered page. All graphic books, all comic books have even numbered pages. Written novels sort of do the same thing… Book chapters start on even numbered pages and end on odd numbered pages. It’s a function of how pages are printed by machine. And this is destined for print.

    Think about it. This is either the last page of a chapter or there are two more pages.

    • EldrinSMP

      When the author says the next page is the last page, I tend to believe him. Filler pages do exist, as do multi-page chapter covers!

      • SofiaT

        Most likely one of the previous pages will be a spread a think.

        • EldrinSMP

          Quite possible… I can see the explosion / transition to hell doing that.

          • davefragments

            I have sent 48 page brochures to a printer and what happens (Depending on the printer and the paper stock and the machine that actually does the printing) is that the pages can come back four across and four up on both sides of a the page. I and to proof that once and reading from page one to page 24 is a puzzle of flipping the sheet over and around to find the pages. A single page is printed front and back. Think that the front face is odd and the back page is even. Now when you use a large piece of stock and print two across and two down, remember they have to be cut apart. In this case of 2×2, the brochure would be 8 pages long and consist of two individual pieces of paper sewed or stapled together along with the cover (front cover outside, front cover inside, back cover inside, back cover outside)… Novels are cut to have12 or 16 sheets folded at the middle.

            That all sounds a little odd at first but if you just take a double size sheet of paper — 17 inches by 22 inches and do it, you see what I’m talking about. Even fold two sheets of normal paper into a half-size brochure and numbering the pages will illustrate what I an talking about.

            There will always be an even number of pages to fill and if this chapter ends on a odd number, then ALEX will have to add the next page or have a “spread” as Sofia talks about to make the even number or printed pages running through a machine.

            Don’t worry if it isn’t obvious. The first time I saw it, I thought half the world was crazy.

            What reminded me of this was ALEX talking about the difference between presenting an exciting and dramatic page on the web and presenting an dramatic and exciting page in a print edition.

          • EldrinSMP

            Why yes, I am well aware of how publications are printed, seeing as how part of my job description for my current contract is “Publications Manager”

            What I was saying is that if ALEX says that it’s the last page coming on Wednesday, then it’s the last page. Right now we’re only dealing in web-comic terms. I’m sure ALEX knows what he’s doing to make it work in the future when it goes to print.

            When this volume goes to printing, any number of things can be done to make it fit into a print environment. I’m guessing it would use a form of perfect binding, such as Artifice did, so the centerfold of a leaf is a perfect place to expand into a two piece spread. That’s just one option… We could see more cover pages and all kinds of additional content.

      • Mike W

        I’m pretty sure that one or two Asterix books finish a page early. Sometimes even Goscinny only ran at 97% inspiration level.

        • SofiaT

          Upvote for referencing Asterix and Goscinny.

          The first comic books I ever collected.

          • b3nc0

            Êtes-vous, Mike et toi, francophones? If not, do you read them in French?

          • SofiaT

            No, I’m afraid after 4 years of doing French in school, all I ever got out of it was “d’accord” and “je m’appelle Sophie et je ne parle pas francais”. 😛

            However! The Greek translators have done a fantastic work with the puns and word-plays and weaving in pop-culture/references the Greek audience is familiar with, so the humour of Goscinny doesn’t get lost in the translation. I even have 2 albums in ancient Greek, “Asterix and Cleopatra” & “Rose and Sword” -they’re pretty hillarious. 😀

  • EldrinSMP

    Wow… Duncan’s actually tearing my heart out a little here. Why am I suddenly thinking of Bester from Babylon 5? Maybe because the phrase “There is no greater villain than one who believes he is working for the Greater Good of his people.” comes to mind, which is one I always attributed to Bester.

    • Steven K.

      OOOH – OOOH – Babylon 5! That is my favorite SciFi series EVER! Thanks for mentioning!

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        One of my favs too, Steven. 🙂

      • EldrinSMP

        hehe, mine too! Am I wrong that this is exactly the kind of deal Bester would have struck to save the Telepaths?!

        • Steven K.

          Bester was also definitely a complex character – one that you initially love to hate, but later his motives and true nature are seen to be more ambiguous and one gradually comes to re-evaluate having a completely negative opinion of him.

          • EldrinSMP

            I agree. One of the greatest sci-fi antagonists I’ve ever seen, IMO.

          • …….I remember whenever he came on screen going WHY CHEKOV! WHY!!!

          • davefragments

            Bester was always the villain and being ambiguous only made him more evil. IMO

          • He did evil so well.

          • Steven K.

            The fact he had passion and concern and human emotion at least toward the woman he loved, and would even break Psi-Corp protocols, etc. to aid her – at least shows he still had some humanity.

      • I got to meet Sheridan and Delyn at DragonCon. I have their autographs.

        • Steven K.

          That’s awesome. I would have loved to have been able to get the autographs of Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas before they each tragically died (motorcycle accident and illness, respectively) Richard Biggs also died tragically (illness) since the series as well. All relatively young (esp. Biggs). Saddens me so much!

          • Yeah, they mentioned in their panel that they are some of the few left. 🙁 and how they also never knew if they were going to have another season or not.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Steven, Delenn, Kosh, and the others have misled you, it’s time to learn the truth. Come to Z’ha’dum and learn what it’s all about, what it’s really all about. 😛

        • Steven K.

          Kosh warned me – If I go to Z’ha’dum, I will die. (And *I* won’t have a piece of him in me to help out with that.)

    • b3nc0

      Don’t forget Duncan is doing this for selfish matters first! And I still can’t see how putting Earth (but Americas) & Mankind (but Americans) under the ruling of a demoniac Dictator would help us in any way?!

  • Steven K.

    Hmmmm – want to say something like: “Will someone just shoot me and put me out of my misery?”

  • silibub

    Man, this page just socked me in the feelings, though. I’m basically rolling around doing this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8sVu1Cd5hM

    • Holly

      BEE AND PUPPYCAT!

      • silibub

        <3!!

        • Holly

          I am in love with the Space Thief….

      • Eve

        Did you hear they are getting a season? I’m excited!

        • Holly

          Yes from the official tumblr i was told of this.

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Neat art observation for final panel. If you look carefully Duncan is standing straight upright much the same as he is in panel 1, *but* the combination of him tilting his head forward, combined with the apparent angle of his shoulders that’s caused by the side-on angle being show from below, make it look like he’s slumping in sadness. Very evocative.

  • WarGoddess

    Yes, he does deserve far better treatment! Which I know that you can be capable of giving!! Why can you not just accept the inevitable, reverse everything you’ve done, crawl on your knees and beg for Kyles forgiveness, then live out the rest of your life with a sweet, handsome young man by your side?!!! *starts crying obnoxiously* WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!! WE COULD’VE HAD IT ALL!!! YOU JUST HAD TO BE A DEVILISHLY HANDSOME FICTIONAL SUPERVILLAIN WITH A PENCHANT FOR PEOPLE OF THE PENIS-ENABLED PERSUASION WHILST I MUST GO ON UNNOTICED DUE TO MY LACK OF MAN PAAAAAAARRRTS!!!! (;0;)/

    *ahem* Umm I mean, uh, you and Kyle could’ve had it all, and I’m perfectly happy without a straight real Duncan Wells here to cling to. (O_o)
    (Besides, a straight Duncan would not come with the added bonus of super sexy guy on guy thingy smushing!!) XD

    • Holly

      Your final suggestion is solved if “straight” Duncan is Pan or bi.

      Also, are you jumping ship?!

      • NovaLaMason

        I think that you’re overthinking Duncan’s sexuality here. This is YAOI 911. <.<

        • Holly

          Nova, if you read WG’s comment. She was wishing for a REAL LIFE STRAIGHT Duncan. But was sad because if such a man existed, there would be no lovely man love.

          Of course, actual Duncan is gay. Sorry for confusing you with my statement. 🙁

          • Steven K.

            That is a nice sentiment.

          • davefragments

            It’s like THE PRINCESS BRIDE — you had true love within your grasp and you let it get away! Boo, Boo, Booo!

          • SofiaT

            Now have fun storming da castle!

          • Holly

            I LOVE PRINCESS BRIDE! Just LOVE! SO MUCH. Oh if a guy said as you wish to me I’d melt like a Timmy’s Ice cap.

          • WarGoddess

            My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
            Lol, my favorite line! 😀

          • Holly

            Inigo Montoya: Offer me anything I ask for.
            Count Rugen: Anything you want…
            Inigo Montoya: I want my father back, you son of a bitch!

            MY FAVORITE LINE!

          • SofiaT

            YES!!!

          • My favorite line of all fucking time!

            Management at work let us watch Princess Bride in a conference room just before Christmas one year and I SCREAMED THAT LAST LINE in front of everybody because I was so overcome.

            They were not impressed…

          • Holly

            I love you Gryph you are made of magic. The Ode to George that you, @Feverfew_M:disqus , and I made was wonderful.

            We should be best friends. XD

          • Holly

            I have made a ship name for the friendship of the three of us. It is called Gypheverly!

            IT’s a BROTP!

          • Jeez, Hollllyyyy!

            I know you’ve gone to bed but you’re making me tear up…yes, that Ode to George the three of us made was magnificent.

            Grypheverly! I LOVE IT!!!!!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            BROT3, technically.

          • Jamie Dutton

            You had true love in your hands and you treated it like garbage! So bow down to the Queen of Refuse, the Queen of Putrescence…

            Love that movie!

      • WarGoddess

        Oh NO NO NO NO!!! I don’t think anything short of a) cheating, b) murder of best friend(s), or c) betrayal without even the tiniest hint of remorse could make me jump this ship!!! I will cling onto it like a barnacle until the scraper of harsh, unfeeling reality scrapes me off. I am an optimist, and I feel that though things have become rather rocky, there is still a chance for this relationship to work out. There are still many different measures that could be taken in order to make this thing good again! My comment was just a little bit of angst that needed to be displaced, for optimists do get down sometimes too. 😀

        • Holly

          Okay just making sure. I’m still Captaining the Tugboat. XP

          • WarGoddess

            I have an entire room in my mind filled to the brim with life jackets, oars, wood, and extra tar, so I’m good to keep sailing! 😀

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Don’t forget the paint to cover up how patchworky our repairs to the ship are sometimes.

    • Steven K.

      I share your pain – at least before the ALL CAPS. I can UNDERSTAND the rest though. And wow – now I know how I should “self-identify” – I am a person “of the penis-enabled persuasion”. They aren’t really that much of “enablers” though from my point of view. Certainly haven’t made my life any easier, but I don’t know what the hell I’d ever DO if I didn’t have one – especially to, ummm…errrr …oh well, never mind.

      • WarGoddess

        Haha, I can understand that the way my fiancee acts sometimes, but it sure would be nifty to stand up when I go to the bathroom. 😀

        • It would definitely make it easier in some situations. Having been in enough outdoor (and indoor) situations where the need of squatting down comes with a risk, being able to stand up would sure be nice sometimes 😉

  • Kate G

    Um, Anni, could you POSSIBLY, just *possibly* let poor Kyle go now? I’m pretty sure his arms are getting tired. I kind of now this from having to keep my arms at that level for part of my exercise routine. Your arms…yea, THEY BURN after five minutes or so (and that’s just my poor slightly-out-of-shape arms. Imagine HIS.) Let poor Kyle’s arms down. PLEASE!

    Um, also, still no reason to ask for immortality. I’m still waiting for this reason for immortality. And the Americas. Seriously, what if Kyle doesn’t WANT to be young for all eternity? Have you ever thought of THAT ye ol’ maggot? You might want to let him talk, you know…instead of doing your monologue.

    • davefragments

      I think Duncan plans to be gone before Kyle can get up. Duncan likes his monolog but doesn’t want Kyle to reply.

      That’s called clucking with feathers …

      • Kate G

        True, but we can hope. Kyle is a firecracker.

    • Steven K.

      AMEN to that!!! Now if Duncan knew that Kyle was immortal due to his parentage, and he actually was in love with Kyle and knew that he wanted to be with him for all eternity (I wouldn’t blame him), then asking the boy’s father if, as Kyle’s favored consort, could he have immortality as well so they could share their happiness together for all time, THAT would make sense and a bargain I could understand and get behind.

      • Holly

        Aww that is really sweet and romantic.

      • Kate G

        He may not immortal because, for intents and purposes, he does look human (unlike his dad. Let’s admit it.) He may just have powers like some demigods in Greek lore due to ye ol’ dad (think of Perseus) or maybe he may have had the potential to gain immortality like the demigod Hercules had he been given the chance but Mr. I-Must-Rule-The-World had to take it away from him.

        Yes, I just did throw in Greek mythology here.

  • LimpBiskit
    • davefragments

      That’s very funny.
      Silly and absurd but cute and fun…

    • Ha!

    • WarGoddess

      I’ll have you know I almost died laughing at that! Absolutely brilliant!! XD

  • SofiaT

    Hey, since we’re all here, anyone that still needs to vote for the Top Web comics today? Both YP and Artifice have fallen down the chart. Lets fix that! 😀

    • Done!

      • And Done!

        • b3nc0

          «you can vote again in 9 hours»

          • b3nc0

            «you can vote again in 17 hours»

          • b3nc0

            «you can vote again in 14 hours»

          • b3nc0

            «you can vote again in 11 hours»

    • I will have you know that the little ‘confirmation’ thing you have to click to vote, made me have to chose the option to confirm ‘Nicole’s cleavage’ xD

      Has to be the first time I had to confirm boobs and a cleavage as a character.

  • Holly

    Felix keeps glaring at me for being too loud with the computer while he tries to have the kitty sleeps. Perhaps I should end my commenting for the night…

    • Kitty revenge is a cruel thing. 😀

      • Holly

        Why does he need revenge?! O_o

        • You keep interrupting his kitty sleep.

          • Holly

            Yes well, ire i get. But why revenge? what is he going to do to me AJ?!

          • Pounce on you in the middle of the night? Um, chew on any bracelets you wear. Sleep on your face?

          • Holly

            The former is probably the most likely. Worse still, he hasn’t had his nails clipped in months. He’s too strong and squirmy for one person to do the job, and i have no one to help.

          • Uh oh. I’m hearing the jaws theme. 😀

          • Holly

            not funny aj

          • My apologies. :

          • Holly

            LOL No need. ^_^

  • Camille Martin

    Oh ANNI! I had slipped. I was starting to hate you I really was. But that last line *chokes, sputters and bursts into sobs*

  • *Poof* PP shows up.

    PP: Would you just stop TALKING! The kid is going to hate you anyway. We have a demon banquet to prepare. *Looks down on Kyle* Damn, why did you have to be gay?

    • Jeh Y

      I kind of hope it goes the Airplane! route, myself: He keeps rambling, PP appears and slaps him. Then Hunter shakes him violently and slaps him. Killer whacks him upside the head, shakes him, slaps him, and so on with the rest of the YP (minus Kyle), Laampros, that baby that was saved in the first chapter, Deacon, Maven, Jeff, etc all lined up with bats, pipes, and guns.

      • SofiaT

        One of those comments I wish I could upvote more than once.

        Two thumbs up!

    • Steven K.

      Another embarrassment for Kyle.

      • Sometimes dark humor is what is needed to lighten up a situation.

  • Kyle’s face in panel 3. It’s so: Yeah, whatever dude.

  • Holly

    Anyone else think that Ducan’s hair and beard look darker on this page…like they are darkening?

    • SofiaT

      I don’t see a difference but I could be wrong.

      Btw, I tried to imagine Duncan with dark hair and I just can’t. I hope if he goes back to being 35yo or something (I’m voting for 35-45 personally) that at least he’ll still have grey sides. *sigh*

      • Holly

        I know people who were silver by 19 or 20. So I’m hoping he goes down to 25-30 ish and stays silver.

        • davefragments

          That will happen when the platinum priestess activates the keys to paradise…

          • Eve

            Ah, so that’s why he’s still a silver fox. I was wondering. I think black hair with some silver would be handsomeha. I just want him to be in his thirties so I can have eye candy that isn’t squicky young for me like Kyle.

        • SofiaT

          I hope he’s older than 30 because that’s my age. I don’t feel confortable drooling over a guy who’s younger than me. *sigh again*

          • Holly

            Well 30ish can be up to 35. I just don’t want 40s because that seems a little old for eternal youth style immortality. Though did he ask for youth, or just immortality?

          • Youth. Laampros was like, ‘you want to live forever yeah?” and Duncan was all “Youth and perfect health”

          • Holly

            Grazie

          • I could have worded that better but my brain is shutting down which means I should have been in bed about an hour ago.

          • SofiaT

            He did ask for youth. He did leave a shitload of other stuff out though…

          • Holly

            Everyone assumes they will be an Atlantean Vampire not a Perma-toddler.

          • Feverfew_M

            And assumptions are a very dangerous thing to have, when dealing with a demon…

          • Feverfew_M

            Let me tell you, once you’re a decade older you lose that kind of restraint pretty quickly…

          • Funny thing, when I was younger I always thought 30ish was hot. Now that I’ve passed that, I still think 30ish is hot.

            But I do still find it hard to ogle those under 25. They still have baby fat.

          • Holly

            That is the WEIRD thing about my face. I’m overweight, but my face is matured, so I have chub but the baby fat is gone, so you can see the angles and indents of adulthood in certain places. It’s WEIRD.

          • Same here. That happened to me. Suddenly the roundness was gone.

          • Half your age + 7 years. Isn’t that the rule?
            Which is making this comic hard for me xD
            At least Spooky likes experienced women who’s older than him (Alex told me a while ago, saying I might have a chance anyway :3 )

          • SofiaT

            I thought that was the rule for men?

          • Now, now. We women can’t go around demanding equality, and then have a rule like this that only counts for men.

            … but we can pretend we don’t know the rule. It doesn’t count anyway if we’re only looking, right! 😉

          • That’s what I’ve heard.

            And Spooky’s a smart lad!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            My guess is around 30 y/o. Although he didn’t specify what age, he could be as young as 18 (Kyle’s age). Humans stop developing physically at 18-21 y/o and then start to grow old (slowly at first), after that.

          • SofiaT

            But a man’s peak is between 35-45 imo. 😀

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I was only referring to the physical development. At 35-45 years old a lot of things have gone downhill for a male.

          • Robert Downey Jr. That is all.

          • SofiaT

            Point.

            And George Clooney. He looked ridiculous when he was brown-haired. I’d reference Richard Gere too, but I never thought Richard Gere was hot. :0/

          • George Clooney has aged very well and is more attractive as he’s aged.

          • I don’t really like the young Sean Connery (007), but he is one sexy old man(The Hunt for Red October).

          • SofiaT

            Sean Connery looked hot when he was young, he looks hot now he’s old, he didn’t look hot in the in-between (Diamonds are Forever/Never say Never Again).

          • I don’t think I have seen a hot young Connery.

          • SofiaT

            LOL, that was not exactly proving my point 😛

          • No? I suppose it wasn’t the best shot, but I always thought him attractive there.

          • Truth to tell, the Darby O’Gill image was better for me than the other one. I really did not find him sexy at all in that other one. No offense Sofia. Though I think I blocked out Darby because his Irish accent keeps slipping in it and it drives me crazy. At least to my ears the accent slips.

          • SofiaT

            *gasps* Sean in Dr No was at his most sexy! Add the tanned arm-porn and… *Sofia drops dead*

          • Well, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen that movie, but I think it’s rare when Sean Connery does any accent. He’s still Scottish in Hunt for Red October. He’s still Scottish playing a spaniard in the Highlander, etc.

          • well, In Darby he is Irish and to my ears he kept going between Irish and Scottish. Because sometimes the nuances were just right and other times they weren’t.

          • SofiaT

            All I hear is a Celt speaking 😀
            *Sofia drops dead again*

          • I think my ears are accent sensitive. They know what they like and are fairly good at nitpicking. If they were awesome at nitpicking, I would be able to keep track of all the subtle regional differences.

          • Yeah, I can see that. If he’s going to try, at least put full effort into it. Maybe that’s why he stopped doing it.

          • ~So she’s my dear, my darling one. Her eyes are sparkling and full of fun~

            I haven’t seen that movie since I was a teenager (should watch it again), but I loved it back then and I still remember this song from it 🙂

          • I have it.

          • SofiaT
          • Eve

            I never found young Sean Connery hot either but old, pre-league of extraordinary gentleman Sean Connery was smoking.

          • Klaus

            Sexual stamina peaks around 17, Intelligence peaks somewhen in the early twenties.

          • Steven K.

            Well, depending what you mean by “stamina” – I can have as many …um…well, what Kyle had after they smushed their man-parts together as I could when I was 18. And my libido is just as strong as it ever was (but maybe that comes partially from never really getting much action – the desire is continually heightened).

          • Holly

            Development tends to end around mid twenties. Physical maturity tends to happen late teens early twenties, but can continue into mid twenties. but it is the Mid twenties were mental development completes itself. So to be fully developed he’d be mid twenties, but he just asked for youth so who knows.

          • Steven K.

            If you believe in the afterlife, you may be interested to know that, according to psychics or spiritual experts who deal with spirits and all that, and also data from near-death and shared-death experiences, the sort-of “default” appearances of souls that have crossed over is about 30.

          • Steven K.

            Wow – I sure wish more people – more gay men, especially, felt that way (about not being comfortable drooling over younger guys) !!!

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          I think a fitting punishment from Laampros would be to returned to infancy. We know the “foul creature” is gonna screw over the “maggot” and his “sow”.

          • Steven K.

            Maybe L. had that attitude toward them because of how they used and treated Kyle.

    • dereule101

      I don’t see it. Pretty sure he’s not going to get his wish until he holds up his end of the bargain, though.

  • mogoskier

    Wait I go to see Thor and the new page is up already, well cool.

    WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE LAST PAGE. I’M NOT READY NOT READY

    • Holly

      Mogo, shh it’s okay. It’s just the chapter, not the story. *huggles and comforting beverage*

  • Holly

    THERE SHOULD BE THANKSGIVING FAN ART!!!

    • I CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN! It just won’t be in color; my tablet died.

    • Tina

      Maybe with Duncan stuffing Kyle’s turkey *shot for extremely bad imagery*

  • New problem here..

    I hope that fire-proof box of Anni’s have at least an extra pair of pants in Kyle’s size. We keep asking for him to be covered up a little, but with what? His clothes burned.
    Also, how will Kyle get home? Naked or not he either has to let Anni bring him back, or walk till he can get transported or picked up somewhere. A LOT of explaining to do there. I doubt he’s gonna be able to put the reason as ‘having a wild birthday beyond normal’ and not tell what that involved xD

    I think that, no matter what, Kyle is gonna suck it up and go tell Commander (and Spooky) about what has just happened now. People need to be warned. Kyle is really not in a good position here, but it’s only going to be more awkward if he’s also naked >.<

    • SofiaT

      Duncan’s loooong road to redemption could start with the offer of a pair of pants.

      But I don’t see it happening. More likely he’ll get the hell out of there before Kyle is freed from those bonds.

      • Holly

        The first words I saw were Ducan’s looooong and pants so my brain had a fun time until I actually read the post.

        • SofiaT

          *snort*

        • Feverfew_M

          “The level of the gutterminded” eh? Hope you’re wearing your wellies! 😀

          • Holly

            aww Fever you remembered! *hugs as a ruse to drag you down into the gutter with me* FRIENDSHIP!

          • Feverfew_M

            How could I ever forget? My stay there is already booked!

          • Someone live with their mind not there?
            *tries to comprehend how that even works*

          • Holly

            The Level of the Gutterminded isn’t normal having your mind in the gutter. It’s a special circle of Hell. I will tell you all about it another time. ^_^

          • Feverfew_M

            But I think we can already reserve a welcome bucket and a pair of wellies for Danish!

          • Ooo! Can I come too?

          • Feverfew_M

            I really don’t think you’ve got another choice in that matter. Not many people here have, I reckon. ;D

          • Steven K.

            There is a “subcircle” of a circle of Hell in Dante that is filled with excrement and the sinners have to wallow in it for all eternity.

      • Klaus

        I expect him to say something like “The chains will dispear in an hour or so. There are clothes in the box.” Plus directions for the nearest highway, and then hurry away.

        • Steven K.

          I hope you are right. That would be humane at least.

        • SofiaT

          Yeah, that sounds like Duncan.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Duncan can tip off his team as to Kyle’s location. After all, he does say how much he cares about him.

      • Steven K.

        ONLY if he gives him some trousers or at very least a jockstrap or loincloth or thong or SOMETHING first.

        • LL

          A loincloth would just be insult to injury, haha!
          Didn’t they shed their clothes outside the bed?

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I was going to say that Duncan had better include something about Kyle having fallen into his evil trap of evil, but then I realized that that’s the conclusion the other Young Protectors would naturally make since he’s a notorious supervillain.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          He doesn’t have to say much really, just that Kyle is at such and such place and needs their help. And hopefully he will leave something for him to wear so they won’t find him naked. He doesn’t even have to identify himself if he doesn’t want to, just an anonymous call.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            True.

    • Steven K.

      Maybe it’s odd, but the whole Kyle is still naked thing REALLY bothers me – esp. if he might be left that way either to seek out help or be found that way – it’s one of the things that has been bothering me the most – after all the horrible shit he’s been through, I want him to be able to have at least a little bit of dignity. ALEX, you might be a nudist (?) along with those bondage-bottom propensities you must secretly harbor to think that it’s ok for Kyle to have been put through this sort of violation, but (by the way Kyle sure quickly jumped into that bed after undressing, even in private with the guy he’s about to have some intimacy with), I doubt (and I know that you probably do as well from depicting things that way) that Kyle is one, so could you PLEASE (I’m kinda begging you here) see to it that the poor kid gets some clothes before we have to leave the Chapter next week. That will make all the betrayal and hurt and pain and violation and abuse just the tiniest bit easier to deal with going forward (for us [i.e. me especially] as well as for Kyle). I’m going to seriously cry and scream if he’s found that way (naked and/or still chained, but esp. naked) by his friends and/or colleagues, and undergoes further negative emotional stress from the humiliation of that, on top of all the other horrendous things you’ve just had him experience.

    • Pup Ruff

      Is it bad I’m in no hurry for Kyle to get dressed? I’m a bad man.

      • In other circumstances I’d be all in for Kyle to be naked, and stay naked, but knowing he might not have much of a choice right now make me want him dressed (o.O)

  • KrisYWC

    GDI why are you trying to break my heart Anni?

  • Holly

    I am taking the 200th comment to tell you all that I’m going to bed!

    • Feverfew_M

      Sleep well, then!
      …and I should probably go back to bed…

    • Night!

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      nite.

    • Good night!

    • cheerbearp

      Good night!

    • Holly! No! You go right as I get on. Why. Why. Why.

  • OH RIGHT!
    I just remembered what it was I was gonna tell during today’s camping.

    I know there’s several ThePrincess Bride fans here. Have you seen that there’s a Princess Bride card deck kickstarter project going right now?

    This company was able to secure the licence to make card decks, and there’s three different options to have/chose between.

    Check it out: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/the-princess-bride-playing-cards-from-uspcc

    • DON’T SHOW ME NEW THINGS! XD!!

    • SofiaT

      I did see it some time ago and marked it with a reminder, hoping my finances will be in a better place before it ends… sadly, I don’t see it happening 🙁

      • Yeah, I really hoped to be able to get all three versions, but I am gonna try for one deck since I collect card decks and try to always get special ones. The horror will, be chosing which one.

        Btw. To anyone reading this.
        If any of you out there has some card decks you don’t use (maybe because a card or two is missing or you have several decks) let me know. They don’t have to look brand new, just not broken. I can’t pay much, but I I’ll let you know when I can afford shipping if you want to send me some.
        Getting decks from various places in the world could be so funny. I already make sure near family/friends get me a local bought deck when they go on vacations.

        Near anything has an interest, if just they have pretty backgrounds or and interesting them. I have anything from decks with art, nature, animals, movie/book/comic themes to weird, funny, mythologic/gothing/the likes and pervy (you should see one of the decks I have gotten with BDSM themes *lol*) and old style.etc.
        Another thing is literally old decks. Ex. in yard sales, I’ve found some old decks from the 1950’s once, and I have a deck that I’ve reseached is from the 1930s. So if ex. your grand parents has an old deck lying around they don’t use, I’ll take it gladly 🙂

        • SofiaT

          I’ll keep it in mind, if I see any decks lying around 🙂

        • You collect cards too? I have a smaller collection, but I do the same.

          • I used to collect postcards, but in the later years it turned into card decks. I had a friend then who collected decks, and gathering for her spiked my own interest. My collection isn’t huge, but it’s becoming a decent size and growing 😉

        • b3nc0

          Hallo,
          At last, I got my hands back on a couple of decks that might interest you: a French literature authors one & one from a Belgian Third World help NGO… After collecting money, I still missed the Princess Bride decks KS, so I have the founds for shipping ;°)
          If interested, you can contact me here: benco(dot)man(at)gmail(dot)com

          • I am ABSOLUTELY interested 😀
            Oh wow.. thank you. I’ll write an email today.

  • Oh my god, the regret in his face! The love he is putting forth while telling Kyle he deserves better. <3

  • Anni: Regret
    Anni: More regret
    Kyle: 🙁
    Anni: Possible love laced with regret.
    Kyle: CONFLICTED FEEEEEEELINGS

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Kyle’s feeling conflicted all right. He’s conflicted about whether he’s going to flambé Duncan’s nether parts first or whether he’s going cause Duncan’s head to spontaneously combust.

  • One day I will get all my thoughts out in one post lmao!

    That face Duncan is making in the last panel makes me want to give him THE BIGGEST HUG! I know there are Duncan haters out there now since he turned out to be Douchey McDoucherton, but I still love his character. He is very redeemable. <3

    • Cman65

      and if you ever did give a hug to a guy like him , you would lose your money / TV / life

      • But hugs….

        (In all seriousness, I would like to see how his character progresses but at this moment in time, he is a sad, pouty, puppy dog bad ass)

  • Cid Highwind

    Oh the conflict in his expression!!! I wonder what sort of future could be in store for these two, either together or apart?

  • Jamie Dutton

    I think he’s taken off the top hat and stopped verbally tap dancing around enough to FINALLY say something real. Maybe I’m just trying to see something that’s not there?
    But at this point, he needs to just STOP F*ING TALKING. Get the young man some clothes and walk away like the cold-hearted bastid you keep claiming yourself to be.

    Btw, anyone else notice the burns on his arms still haven’t healed completely?

    • I think his arm got well and truly ‘toasted’, since the glove was blown of his hand, and it takes longer to heal than a ‘small scratch’.

      Stories also show various times that healing from fire takes longer than almost anything else. Fire is often one of the only sure ways to actually kill a supernatural being.

      • Jamie Dutton

        And I’m sure Laampuuru-kun’s siggy on his arm isn’t helping anything.

    • Steven K.

      Amen to that sentiment.

  • december

    Duncan, can you please get on with it already. You really are quite full of yourself my dear, it can get a little tiring.

  • Eve

    Duncan, nothing in this situation says sorry I violated your trust like a pair of pants.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      And Hallmark doesn’t even make a card for this.

  • Soubi

    Anni, that’s great and I’mma letchu finish but…you done fucked up. Thanks for playing the “Who can emotionally scar Kyle the most” game. You win…a giant slap to the face.

    • LL

      You sure Laampros didn’t win for suddenly revealing that he was Kyle’s dad? It’s pretty durn close, anyway

      • Steven K.

        But I’m not sure that Laampros’ INTENTIONS were bad/ maleficent/malevolent.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Y’know, for an evil hell demon.

      • Soubi

        Nah, with a name like Laampurru-kun who can hate him? Besides, Anni SOUGHT Kyle out, Laampy was just chillin’ in his firey plane of fireness.

    • Steven K.

      Ditto to that.

  • Well, my Disqus has reached the point where it can’t keep up with comments and replies to me, even on my dashboard, so it’s time to leave and come back later.
    I’ll go continue reading the good, but so far quite sad, gay story I have found online. I must know what happens next, untill I’m up to date with current chapters posted (why did I have to find a sexy, dramatic lovestory where the young main character has cancer! *snif*).
    Seeing Duncan’s inner conflicts and self-regret has already set the mood.

    • SofiaT

      My disqus has been stuck for weeks now showing that I have “7 new notifications”. Seven is the new zero.

      I wonder if there’s a way to re-set it.

      • Have you checked further down? Sometimes there are hidden ones.

        • SofiaT

          I tried when it first showed up, kept loading the earlier notifications to see if I had missed any. It would go back to 0 and then after I refreshed the page it would show me 7 again. And it’s been like that for weeks now, it’s a bit annoying.

      • Try open your notifications and go a while back through all you’ve gotten. I’ve tried this before. It’s possible you’ve gotten so many replies one time that you haven’t loaded them and they’ll stay as ‘new’. If you reach a ‘page’ of notifications from weeks back where there’s a blue or yellow line in front of them – that should be it and you can stop. Good chance this will remove the #7

  • vessto

    This time I don’t believe you, Silver Head! And I’m sure Kyle won’t believe you too! Always ready to juggle with words when you want something, Anni, your tricks won’t pass this time!

    • Klaus

      I think Duncanis being honest here. He really does think Kyle deserves better. Unfortunately he subscribes to the philosophy opf Salvor Hardin: “Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.”

      • SofiaT

        Misquoting: “Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.. for you”.

        • vessto

          Was about to ask if Klaus’s quote is right. Now as you added the correct one I think Anni follow exactly this egocentric motto.

          • Klaus

            I do not think that Hardin meant it the way Sofia phrased it. Duncan certainly does.

          • vessto

            Imho what is “right” always fits with “morals”. In the real meaning of these words, not in the religious or whatever invented twisted meanings. So if sometimes someone sees a difference between “what is right” and “what is moral” in all these cases “right” is “right for you”.

          • SofiaT

            Klaus’ quote was right, I was the one who misquoted -to make it match Duncan’s situation.

            That’s not to say that Duncan is not doing what he thinks is right… but I think there are many ways to go about “doing what’s right” and he chose the one with the selfish side-benefit.

          • vessto

            My anger was against the real quote. I had enough during the communism to us to be done “what is right”. To be smashed as if we are nothing because the “right” to be achieved. Human’s life was nothing in the name of the “great idea”. Destroying and murdering in the name of “what is right” is never right. That is why I chose morals, not the fake, religious ones but morals in the real and raw meaning, in the way I see it in the words of the great Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

            https://d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net/photos/1372865354p8/796707.jpg

            Choosing “right” and in first place seeing something as right despite your morals is what the most awful dictators and doctrines do.

          • b3nc0

            More like he was able to paste some false sense of rightousness & for-the-Greater-Good-ness on his selfish ways to reassure the high opinion he has of himself…
            Yep, Duncan, you can see I don’t like you very much, right now!

          • SofiaT

            Maybe. But his quickness to assure Kyle that it was his selfishness first that caused him to act this way, makes me think that there is a big threat out there. Duncan is not acting in the usual villain way, claiming arrogantly that he did it all for the greater good, and that tells me there might actually be something there… and he just doesn’t want to admit it. Because, ya know, he has a reputation as a baddie to uphold.

          • Well, I think that his whole plan for eternal youth has been in the making for quite some time, and that this big crisis is merely coincidental.

          • SofiaT

            Without knowing what this crisis/threat is, it’s hard to speculate. But while I think that Duncan set this plan in motion long time ago (at least 6 years ago, to be exact) it makes more sense to me that he already knew of the looming threat then. Most likely the crisis preceded his plans but he felt either unable or indifferent about doing something about it. But then this opportunity arose and he’s killing two birds with one stone.

            Again, the information we have is so little, this is more a feeling I got out of it, than any actual evidence.

          • Only Alex knows and only gives us a little at time. Just enough to drive us crazy speculating.

          • SofiaT

            True that!

            Once thing is for certain: Chapter 3 will be packed with action!

          • b3nc0

            What was it again? Space monkey robot ninjas?

          • SofiaT

            Pigs. Flying robot ninja pigs.

            But don’t tell Alex I told you about them, they’re supposed to be a secret.

            I hope you’ll keep this between us.

          • Just as long as they don’t team up with the zombie ninja cows.

          • SofiaT

            Alex seems to be very fond of the zombie ninja cows so I wouldn’t dismiss the possibility…

          • ….which might be partially my fault…..he didn’t seem to know about them before I opened my big mouth.

          • SofiaT

            Oh, I think he did. I think he knows all. *nods gravely*

          • b3nc0

            Hush, hush, I’ll try
            Hush, hush, don’t you mind

  • MonRohr

    To bad Kyle still cannot speak because of the spell.
    From the look in panel three he sure has to say some things to Anni…

  • LL

    Feeling…conflicted…can’t hate…Duncan…
    /fist shake

    • LL

      Though I would be A-OK with Kyle sucker-punching him in the groin/face/etc.

      • Pup Ruff

        The make up sex would be awesome.

    • TwilightDreamer

      Feeling exactly the same 😛

  • TwilightDreamer

    *scrunches up face and turns away* ….no! I won’t believe you Duncan! I won’t believe you….!!
    …..well ok, I do, but I still won’t forgive or trust! XD

    • Klaus

      I belive Duncan. He really does know right from wrong. He just does not allow it to affect his actions. That is not misguided or conflicted or whatever. That is evil.

      • TwilightDreamer

        Yeah, I do believe him :), I said last page that that’s what I like about Duncan…he knows what he does is wrong, and he won’t try to justify his actions, even if he also won’t hesitate to follow through with his plans.

  • Denise Cruz

    I know it’s not such new for anyone else, at this time, but I always like to see Duncan speaking rather than Anni.
    Do you know what I mean?
    I like Duncan! (Isn’t also a new, is it?!) Anni, no so much… Although I understand why both of them exist… (too bad, too sad!)
    Poor thing!
    Kyle is, certainly, stronger than he was able to be for his entire life.

    Feeling bad for both of them… >~< (Man! It seems to be endless!..)

  • Amanda

    Awww Duncy Wuncy needs a hug!

  • Cman65

    Bah bah bah I’m not bad I just do bad things. Get yourself free and send this old Q@##% ‘s roasted balls to daddy to play with in hell

    • Steven K.

      Sounds like a good recommendation.

  • Sapfo

    Did I understand it right that this page is the second last in this chapter?

    * Crawls up with all my soft pillows, my teddy bear and hide me *

    But what will happen now? No, Duncan, do not let me lose hope in you. Do not say you will turn you back on Kyle and leave him where he is. Chained, naked, alone.
    This is not good …..! Oh, you great Pillow of softness, protect me! You to Teddy!

  • steelie

    From “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout:

    “The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness,” Stout says. “It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy.”

    Other techniques beyond pity that a shameless sociopath will use to keep the rest of us in line:

    Charm

    Risk-taking, and convincing others to do it with them

    Recognizing a person who is decent and trusting—the perfect target

    Sexual seduction

    Crocodile tears—especially when sociopaths are about to be confronted

    Righteous indignation—Plan B when sociopaths are about to be confronted

    Exploiting social and professional roles

    Gaslighting—making victims doubt their own perceptions

    Yep – Duncan, old boy, you are just ticking all the check boxes. And ticking me off as well. The only sociopath (or perhaps NPD) worth pitying is one who is honestly trying to make a change since the prognosis for change in such a personality is so poor. I’m not conflicted – I’m just waiting and hoping for a fry fest!

    • Niggle

      Agreed. At this point I’m impervious to his speeches. I just hope Kyle is too angry and feeling betrayed to be fooled.

  • Jack Sweeney

    Carpet matches the drapes!

  • Niggle

    Gotta say I like the art on this page. Anni is looking good and I like how some of the panels are from Kyle’s perspective.

    His monologuing is interesting, not because I believe a word he’s saying or feel any sort of sympathy or understanding, but as Alex said: his verbal gymnastics. I think he’s being honest here in the sense that what he’s saying here might be close to how he’s deceived himself and justified what he’s doing to himself. Maybe.

  • Xalun K

    I failed at camping last night. I ended up falling asleep with my 4 year old. 🙁 So I’m just now seeing the page.

    I’m not sure if Duncan is being ingratiating intentionally or if he’s being honest, but either way I feel like it’s wrong to be sympathetic toward him, yet I almost can’t help it, just a little.

    I’m beginning to become more and more afraid for Kyle’s mental state. The more Duncan talks, the more calmly angry he gets, and I’m a little afraid that before long Kyle’s going to become unstable…

    • Steven K.

      Yeah – I fear for him that way too.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Hmm, yes. And thinking back on it, Alex did tease us with options for a ‘dark Kyle’/’Red Hot as a villain’. Now, was that Alex teasing us with possibilities just to keep us reading, or was it foreshadowing?

      • Xalun K

        I’m not sure (obviously, haha) but I don’t think permanently (or even semi-permanently) unstable. I think just for the time being he’ll lose his shit thanks to Duncan’s inability to shut up – especially since he’s likely having a hard time following what he’s saying to begin with due to mild shock – and then *kablooey*, whole place goes up and Kyle goes crazy for a little while.

        That’s just one idea, though. lol

        • b3nc0

          Let’s not put all the blame of *kablooey* Kyle on Duncan: Laampy’s fatherly announcement shouldn’t help keep Kyle’s sanity…
          Wait, that would be Duncan’s doing fault finely: he DID bring them together for the first time‼

        • Kinda like when Bruce Banner first changes into the Hulk? So a bit of REDHOT SMASH! yes?

  • davefragments

    Take a good look at the arrogant stance and bearing of Duncan in that first panel. He’s so sure of what he is doing and so convinced that he is right.

    • Klaus

      But then in the fourth, he shows he has regrets. For his own happiness, though, not for what he did to Kyle.

      • SofiaT

        I think Duncan’s regret is two-fold.
        1) “Damn, there goes my chance to be happy with him”
        2) “Such a nice guy, I wish I didn’t have to treat him so bad… and still have my cake”.

        The regret for his own missed happiness may come first, but I do think there’s genuine regret for his treatment of Kyle too.

      • davefragments

        and when someone says “I have no regrets” that’s a heaping pile of bovine waste topped with sparkly chicken litter and floated on a sauce of swine manure.

        ooh, that was such fun to write. I want to say it again.
        “it’s bullshit”

        They have regrets. They just don’t want to tell you what those regrets are.

        Duncan has regrets. he thought Kyle would stay with him and be his lover and now he knows that Kyle is his enemy. It isn’t Kyle’s fault, it’s Duncan’s for using Kyle wen he could have had the love of his life and died happy. Now Duncan will never be happy and will never die — miserable and regretting his lost love.

        • Klaus

          He must have known that Kyle would not stay with him. He most likely did not know how sad that would make him.

  • It occurred to me that one of the reasons Duncan is still standing there monologuing is because he knows this is the last time he will be with Kyle in this intimate way. He won’t be able to show up and tell him “I wanted to see you” ever again.

    And he knows he won’t be able to have conversation over wine with him, won’t be able to hold his hand, won’t be able to hold him in his arms, won’t be able to kiss him, and spend time together.

    This is Duncan stretching out the last few moments he will have with him. He still wants to be with Kyle, even if he’s lying there mute, horrified, and enraged, because he can talk to him and look into his eyes (and at his beautiful naked body).

    And he knows those feelings won’t go away when he finally leaves. If anything, they will intensify.

    • Niggle

      I think that’s a very good explanation. 🙂

    • SofiaT

      That’s… so sad. *sniff*

      And I think you’re spot on. 🙂

    • Maus Merryjest

      I still don’t understand the sympathy for Duncan. He made his bed and now he has to lie on it. He clearly didn’t value Kyle over his desire to sell the world just so he can be purdy and young again.

      A flaming boot to the head is what he deserves (Kyle, take note!), not sympathy. But then again, tigers are never once to mince words, are they? 😉

      • Klaus

        Tigers are fireproof?

        • Maus Merryjest

          I don’t know—-

          But I wouldn’t mind finding out. What a way to go!

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I echo this, but I vote for a flaming boot to the groin instead. Or maybe in addition?

        • I love these two replies!

          There is no doubt that Kyle is too good for him. As for the flaming boot, I vote for the head and the groin because though I do feel some sympathy for him, he still needs a serious ass-kicking.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I concur.

  • Midwestmutt

    This life-long super criminal has just sold out the majority of mankind to a demon from Hell so he can become Lord and Master of two continents. He will never again Stockholm me.
    He must die. He has passed any right to redemption.

    • Klaus

      I am not at all convinced that he actually intents to rule the Americas. He may just want to keep the armies of Hell out.

    • b3nc0

      I would upvote this heartily, but then, I DO believe in, & have witnessed, the most unlikely redeeming, so, let’s say that death always had that /terminal/ feeling to it I ain’t too kind of x_x

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Welcome to Team Pitchfork (& Tar and Feathering)! We’re plucking the chickens and the tar is already warming on the fire. Sharpen up your farm implement of choice and join the party.

  • Amy

    It’s clear that Duncan likes Kyle, but there must be something about his health that makes him not fear hurting Kyle and a big part of the world because of it. I don’t think he’s ‘that’ old, so he might have a health problem. That’s my best guess.
    Or he’s just really upset that he’s not as strong as he used to be, which I think it’s not enough reason to bring Laampros to our world and hurt Kyle on top of that. At least I hope it’s not it.

    • Hikaru Takemori

      I can see how losing his strenght might be a big deal for him considering it is the attribute he defines himselfe the most with, and if that attribute slips away and you have no other that says ‘this I am’ you lose your identity with it. Of course you would do many things to prevent that from happening.

      • SofiaT

        Plus, the whole “threats” thing is still a big questionmark.

        • Hikaru Takemori

          Yeah, my question now is how this new situation with Anni and Laampros is going to come into play with that.

      • Amy

        But he’s hurting the person he likes and over half of the world by making a contract with Laampros. I’m not completely sure if he should do that, because people shouldn’t mix their identity by the power they have but by their personalities instead. At least that’s what I understand by someone’s “identity”. Still, we’ll see what happens next. These are just our guesses. 😛

    • b3nc0

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      • Amy

        What?

        • Here. 🙂 http://www.rot13.com/index.php

          It’ll decode the mess up there. Some folks below were using code to talk about things they thought might happen.

          • b3nc0

            Thank you! I tend to think everyone reed every comment orz

          • No problem *Mod cape flapping in the wind*

            Yeah, once comments start getting to be over a couple hundred, I think folks tend to read just the top ones.

        • b3nc0

          Sorry, just liked the idea of the choice to maybe spoiler through cypher orz

          • Amy

            Okay. lol.

  • JM

    I find it funny that their time in hell was nothing more than a slight interruption to Duncan’s monologuing. He’s back at it again without skipping a beat. 🙂
    But seriously, I do think all of this is very sad, but I respect Duncan for his honesty and the fact that he doesn’t want to hide behind the “threats” to the world and try to make it seem like he did what he did for the “greater good.” He’s made it very clear that he just doesn’t want to ever get old, or weak, or lose his power, and that that’s what drives him, above all else. He also seems to realize that this route will never lead to happiness, and that the choices he’s made in life have insured that he won’t ever be happy – he’ll just be powerful. He sees the difference, and as much as I hate him for what he’s put Kyle through, I also respect him, in a weird way.

    The one thing I find wholly unfair about this scenario is that Kyle isn’t given a voice…its been so long since we’ve heard him speak (aside from his outburst in hell), but I think that Duncan is probably monologuing for so long because he knows he won’t ever get the chance to be this honest with Kyle ever again.

    • Lindsey Amethyst Hampton

      *draws a circle around this comment in bright red pen*

    • Steven K.

      Astute interpretation.

  • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

    I don’t ask for your forgiveness, but here are some reasons you should forgive me….give it up Anni, you WANT to be forgiven. You don’t deserve it though. I wonder when Kyle is gonna blow…

  • SpookyDomme

    For
    about three seconds, the storyline had me wondering if one of the
    reasons why Duncan is doing this is because he’s a villain, so he knows
    that people expect him to be evil. Like the one major “good” thing he
    does in his life involves doing something terrible, and at this point he
    genuinely believes that it won’t make any difference. Because hey,
    he’s the Bad Guy™.
    But then a few pages back he was all, “I want eternal youth!” and I went “NOPE. NOPE NOPE NOPEY MCNOPE-NOPE FROM NOPERSTOWN, NOPEANIA.”

    Also: “You deserved far better treatment.”
    You don’t say.

  • SofiaT

    “For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
    The saddest are these: ‘It might have been!'”

    • Steven K.

      That’s for sure. I’ve been there many a time, and it really is like that.

  • Acheron Hades

    He’s pretty chatty! Another great page : D

  • Terri Sutton

    You would think that someone who is feeling the cold breath of the grim reaper on their shoulder would be wary of wasting their time.

  • This may or may not get me lynched.

    1) I don’t hate Duncan for what he is doing to Kyle. He is and has always been a villain. Retired or not. I cannot hate him for being who he is. He has always acted true to what he is: A VILLAIN. Things like attachments to a victim doesn’t stop a villain from doing what he wants to do, he just might experience some regret over it. Anni/Duncan is not a hero, don’t expect him to act like one.

    2) Also while we have had to endure weeks upon weeks of Kyle lying naked on the bed/slab, in truth he hasn’t really been there all that long. And the length of time has been fairly normal for the circumstances. I think the main reason some people are having so much trouble with this is because of how long we are having to wait to get each new page. If this was already in book form the outrage would probably be a lot less.

    3) If Anni/Duncan wasn’t such an older villain this whole chapter would have turned out a whole lot differently. A younger villain would be rubbing Kyle’s nose in how naive he has been and would be a lot less understanding. Kyle would be a lot more emotionally scarred. The monologue would be a lot more sinister and lot less sympathetic. So be thankful it is Anni/Duncan and not some much younger villain.

    4) Anni/Duncan didn’t expect Kyle the person when he was making all his plans. It is one thing to make plans involving people you don’t know and another thing to get to now them while following through on that plan. I think Anni/Duncan was caught by surprise by just how good and pure Kyle is. I mean, even for a hero, Kyle still has that air of innocence and purity about him that you don’t really get with others. Even with that innocence and purity, he has firm beliefs about things. So far what we have seen of Kyle’s personality is something I don’t really think we find much in superhero’s today.

    5) I really have to commend him and the other in his group for not going the villain path. They are a group of people that have been repeatedly rejected from sanctioned superhero groups, except for Spooky. I like how it hasn’t turned any of them bitter or resentful (like in the Incredibles with Syndrome) and turned them into potential villains. That they are a group of do-gooders that still function mostly within the law says a lot for them.

    For my views on the Super hero program, please see my comment on the previous page. It is after my discussion on Time Math and Planning.

    I think I had more to say, but my brain is blanking out.

    • SofiaT

      I think that was a great analysis. And I really hadn’t considered point (3) and how things might have been different if it was a younger villain executing this plan.

      Thank you for the very well-thought-out contribution, will give me something to chew on for a while 🙂

      • That is all I really hope for and I really feel that if it was indeed a younger villain, things would be much much worse for Kyle.

        • Steven K.

          If it were a younger villain, it may not be happening to Kyle this way at all – since he wouldn’t be worrying about getting old and weak or dying – and he might have wanted to get involved with Kyle because he found him hot/attractive/adorable, and knew that his being impervious to fire would give him an almost “can’t-miss” step-up in his ability to win over Kyle’s body and affections. Then we might just be having lots more wild but enjoyable hero-villain sexy-times than all this betrayal and violation and mistreatment and alleged regret.

          • He might not be worried necessarily about getting old and weak and dying. There are plenty of young people that would sell their soul for immortality. Why else would there be such a huge vampire fan base that chant “turn me please”? Immortality isn’t a thing solely desired by the old. I was merely saying if you kept everything else relatively the same, but changed it to a young villain instead of an old one, the situation would be a lot worse for Kyle.

  • Danielle Hunt

    Wait now. Am I the only one reading what Duncan’s saying about there being some sort of dire situation (as he stated, on that Kyle and co. have no clue is even going on)? Even on this page, he’s saying that the entire -point- of the bargain with big, red, and ugly is to prevent a day of disaster from coming. Everyone seems to be missing that bit of the conversation, and assuming that Duncan’s true intentions are eternal life and ruling the Americas.

    Now, bear with me here. What is, and this is a big -what if-, all is not as it appears to be? If you were a big demon guy, what would you expect from a mortal who seeks you out for a pact? The obvious answer – immortality and power. The Annihilator is an Anarchist – he’s stated this from the beginning. Chaos is his nature. So would it not make sense that he would put forth the -illusion- that immortality is what he wants, in order to serve a greater purpose? I don’t think that that’s really Duncan’s end-game at all, especially if what’s at stake is as big as he’s been letting on, and especially if you take into account how he’s supposedly been ‘behaving himself’ for the past length of time, as Kyle had noted from his research. Chaos doesn’t necessarily mean evil, after all. Chaos can work for good, as well.

    I think that this particular pact is a farce, in order to lure Big Red to Earth, for use for an ulterior purpose – my particular suspicions are that he’s been conned there in order to help -defend- it from whatever the giant threat is. After all, you protect what you perceive as yours, do you not? I’m also fairly certain there’s a plan for after the threat has passed, for dealing with the demon once the world is saved.

    So, to that end – yes, Duncan used Kyle, for what, on the surface, appears to be some rather selfish motives. But I really think that things truly aren’t as they seem, and I think everyone’s in for a surprise when it comes out that it’s really not a selfish motive at all, but rather self-sacrificing – abandoning ones chance at happiness, and hurting someone you care about, for what is ultimately the greater good.

    Or… I could be totally wrong. Here’s to seeing what happens!

    • Omega Entity

      Ugh. This was my comment that I tried to delete and repost -without- my actual name being used. Thank you, Discus, for automatically defaulting to my real name. [/sarcasm]

      • SofiaT

        You can repost it as Omega and I’ll delete the “guest” one if you want. 🙂

        • Omega Entity

          Ooooh, that would be awesome of you!

          • SofiaT

            No worries, just make sure you copy it, I’ll delete it in a minute.

  • Omega Entity

    Wait now. Am I the only one reading what Duncan’s saying about there being some sort of dire situation (as he stated, on that Kyle and co. have no clue is even going on)? Even on this page, he’s saying that the entire -point- of the bargain with big, red, and ugly is to prevent a day of disaster from coming. Everyone seems to be missing that bit of the conversation, and assuming that Duncan’s true intentions are eternal life and ruling the Americas.

    Now, bear with me here. What is, and this is a big -what if-, all is not as it appears to be? If you were a big demon guy, what would you expect from a mortal who seeks you out for a pact? The obvious answer – immortality and power. The Annihilator is an Anarchist – he’s stated this from the beginning. Chaos is his nature. So would it not make sense that he would put forth the -illusion- that immortality is what he wants, in order to serve a greater purpose? I don’t think that that’s really Duncan’s end-game at all, especially if what’s at stake is as big as he’s been letting on, and especially if you take into account how he’s supposedly been ‘behaving himself’ for the past length of time, as Kyle had noted from his research. Chaos doesn’t necessarily mean evil, after all. Chaos can work for good, as well.

    I think that this particular pact is a farce, in order to lure Big Red to Earth, for use for an ulterior purpose – my particular suspicions are that he’s been conned there in order to help -defend- it from whatever the giant threat is. After all, you protect what you perceive as yours, do you not? I’m also fairly certain there’s a plan for after the threat has passed, for dealing with the demon once the world is saved.

    So, to that end – yes, Duncan used Kyle, for what, on the surface, appears to be some rather selfish motives. But I really think that things truly aren’t as they seem, and I think everyone’s in for a surprise when it comes out that it’s really not a selfish motive at all, but rather self-sacrificing – abandoning ones chance at happiness, and hurting someone you care about, for what is ultimately the greater good.

    Or… I could be totally wrong. Here’s to seeing what happens!

    (There! That feels much better 😛 Thank you Sofia!)

    • Guest

      “Chaos doesn’t necessarily mean evil, after all. Chaos can work for good, as well.” Ahh – you’d be on the side of the “Shadows”, then, in their eons-long conflict/antagonism and galactic philosophical dance with the Vorlons who prefer order and logically progressive states of achievement and advancement rather than evolution through the negative selective power of chaos.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Some of us have indeed noticed Duncan’s line about a dire threat. There’s even been some minor discussion about it. But until we get some details about what it is rather than just vague ominous forebodings, there hasn’t been all that much to talk about compared to all the fulmination about Duncan’s betrayal of Kyle’s trust. We need to know what the upcoming problem is, how bad it is, or even whether it exists at all. Once that detail is in we can start gnashing our collective teeth about whether Duncan’s methods were the best way of dealing with the situation, the only way of dealing with it, or whether it’s just the way Duncan chose to deal with it because of his obsessive-compulsive supervillain disorder.

    • Steven K.

      “Chaos doesn’t necessarily mean evil, after all. Chaos can work for
      good, as well.” Ahh – then I suspect you’d be on the side of the “Shadows”, then, in their eons-long conflict/antagonism and galactic philosophical dance with the Vorlons who prefer order and logically progressive states of achievement and advancement rather than evolution through the negative selective pressures of chaos.

    • MonRohr

      Hmmm…
      Fighting fire with fire – or evil with evil?

      That plan (if it’s the plan after all) could be a good one.
      Call a demon to fight a devil, and whoever wins will be weak enough you can defeat him and send him back to Hell (or wherever it comes from).
      And who cares abaout collateral damage – surely not an anarchist.

    • Omega Entity

      I think I should probably clarify, that I don’t necessarily agree with how Duncan went about all this, but I can understand the underlying logic, if what I postulate actually turns out to be the case (unlikely as that may be :-P)

    • b3nc0

      The biggest threat to Earth & mankind for an anarchist would be…
      …an efficient United World government, with /one/ currency and /one/ language =°O

    • steelie

      Duncan reminded Kyle (and all of us) right from the beginning that he shouldn’t be trusted (http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-page-21/) and then followed that up with a whole lot of deceit mixed in with a small amount of truth. So no – I wouldn’t necessarily believe what he says without some verification and without first being able to separate the “truths” from the semantic dance he does. And even with verification, he’s pretty unilaterally made himself the dictator of what constitutes a threat. And then, as you say, used Kyle as a tool in accomplishing what he thought should be done to handle the situation. I think the operative word there is USED as opposed to collaborated with. He basically forced what he wanted upon another being to gain something that he wanted – maybe in the end it does serve the greater good, but it was still done using sociopathic methods. In my view, that makes him a villain or a sociopath or a bully – doesn’t matter how you dice it, I want to see it sear fried!

      Full credit to Alex for leading us down the sociopath’s rainbow path and making us think there was something more to Duncan. Even more kudos if he can believably pull off a redemption of the character at this point. That’s part of what has me so interested in this story – Alex’s ability to hook us all and lead us wherever he wants us including the whiplash when he makes sudden turns! Although you do worry me a bit, Alex, with your keen understanding of the workings of a sociopath’s mind…

      • Steven K.

        Yep – very much agree with all that.

    • You’re not the only one who has noticed this 🙂 I made a couple of speculations on previous page that’s somewhat similar to your comment here (I think yours is very well worded) and I called Laampros a possible ‘guard dog’ for earth. I’m not all the way to Duncan making a big self sacrifice just yet, but I believe there’s a more ulterior motive to this deal with a demon than just being young and rule America (even though he do want the youth and powers).

      • Omega Entity

        Thanks 🙂 I think why I’m willing to believe that there’s a bigger overarching purpose here isn’t due to any particular attachment to Duncan (honestly, I could take’im or leave’im), but that it just feels like a whoooooole lotta buildup to the ultimate douchiness for it to be -just- that. I man, yeah, they’re lofty goals, but if it were simply that, the romanitc in me feels like Duncan would be willing to give that up, if he truly feels as badly about what he’s doing to Kyle as he *seems* to be letting on. But again, I could be talking out of my ass, here 😛

        • Yeah. That’s why one of my main speculations has been going this way as well (I have theories going in many directions). It’s one that sound more and more plausible as we get little hints along the way.
          Some time ago Alex said something about all details, even the smaller ones, can have a meaning to later events. Just looking at the bigger hints we’ve gotten so far, and I think there has to be much more to why Duncan is doing this.

          • SofiaT

            Exactly! Once you take a step back and look down at the bigger picture, you realise there have been too many hints (small and subtle, but still noticeable), even before Duncan’s monologue, that indicate there’s something big coming up later in the plot. I can’t believe all those little crumbles along the way were left there for no reason. So when Duncan says there are “great and terrible things happening” right now that we don’t know about and are part of the reason behind his actions, I tend to believe him.

          • That could be why he said he would be happy with just the earth back in Hong Kong.

          • SofiaT

            My first big hint was when the crisis of colliding trans-word identities was first mentioned and Duncan casually dismissed it. Something that has that long a name has to be important 😛

          • And has all the other villains and heroes clamoring to deal with it.

            It’s interesting tying it all back to the beginning. So exciting.

          • For me the big question for a while has been
            1) What could be big enough to have all heroes and villains meet the same place for a conference? I think they might feel their powers are treathened (the production of that power dampener for example).
            For me it was Kyle’s way of naming the crisis conference on chap.1, page 27 that struck me as odd: ‘Infinite super-what’s the name’ thing. As in their powers isn’t a sure thing?
            And now 2) Why Duncan said he’s was only interested in earth domination, not galatic, when he then basicly turns most of it over to Laampros?
            I don’t doubt that Duncan would selfishly take the youth and extra powers since he can but something just isn’t right, and I bet it’s all about that ‘bigger treath’ and the bigger picture. It’s something that made Duncan take action now and do this to Kyle while he had the chance. What that treath is, is what I want to know now. I hope we find out in chapter 3 🙂

          • SofiaT

            So many questions, so few answers! 😀

            I always thought that Kyle confusing the name of what’s going on, was a “wink” to the reader about the similarity with DC’s Crisis on Infinite Earths.

            Which is also why I considered the Crisis of Trans-Colliding Identities to be more of an intergalactic/multiverse upheaval that has resulted to different “camps” being created, with super-heroes and villains being busy forming alliances and fighting each other over it (instead of doing every day superhero & supervillain stuff), rather than a conference.

            Where is is mentioned that it’s a conference? I must have missed that part… :o/

          • I have’t read DC’ comic, so might have missed that referene and the meaning behind (damn for superhero comics not really being published much in my country).
            Maybe conference is the wrong word. Meeting is probably better. I just called it a conference in my head because that’s often what a meeting is called when a big group of ‘same talented’ people get together to discus things.

          • SofiaT

            Ok, got what you mean. 🙂

            Here is a synopsis of what’s going on in Crisis on Infinite Earths if you want to take a look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths

            I don’t know if it actually does have any similarities with the Crisis of Trans-Colliding World Identities (although after a quick search on Wikipedia I discovered that “trans-word identities” does indeed refer to multiverses) but it might give you some ideas. 🙂

          • Thank you, I’ll check that out. And yes, I’ve thought about the multiverse thing. In the comment I made on previous page, I did speculate if a planet-war or even a dimension-war could be coming. So many ways Alex can take this, and I’m sure he’s gonna try and keep all options open until we get another certain fact/plot served xD

    • Jamie Dutton

      I mentioned Duncan’s rather bad habit on the last page in a reply to someone who thought he was just lying out his pearly whites.
      As much as I would like to think he’s just another lying douchebag, Mr. Wells has a penchant for manipulating with the truth and half truths.
      He twists his words to the point that even the unvarnished truth can seem like a falsehood. I won’t say lie, because unfortunately I don’t think he’s that easy to see through.

  • Simba Hutchison

    He is all full of contradictions, isn’t he… “I don’t owe you an explaination… But here is a monologue about why you are currently chained up.” and then “I don’t have regrets and I’m super selfish… But I kinda wish I didn’t have to hurt you in order to prevent a scary ‘worse than a crisis that has heroes and villians working together’ thing from happening to the earth.”
    I’m so confused!

    • The eternal/internal conflict of Duncan vs The Annihilator. 🙂 I don’t think he’s very good at compartmentalizing things. Or maybe once upon a time he was and barriers are breaking down.

      • Steven K.

        More walls of blood and pain coming undone.

  • Sensational Sai

    Oh, I just can’t stop reading! So glad there is a light in my life right now: This comic!

    • Steven K.

      Awww – well, sometimes this comic has taken some unexpected dark turns – so my hope is for other sources of light in your life as well – ideally some people or a special someone who love you and care about you.

      • Sensational Sai

        Bah, I have internet! No need for anything but awesomely drawn stories.

        • Steven K.

          Ahh – the perspective of YOUTH – lol. Other things might gradually creep up to be more important as the years roll by. Just keep that in the back of your mind, since, though it may not seem like it now, Fugit Hora.

        • LOL. I’m glad you’re enjoying the comic, Sai! 🙂

          • Sensational Sai

            Oh yeah, really hard not to! And I only just saw your other question, I’m doing fine, thank you for asking about it.

          • I’m glad you’re doing ok. Stay safe—you’re a very welcome presence here. 🙂

    • Just wondering were you got your screen name from Sensational Sai. Ever since getting acquainted with Hikaru no Go whenever I see Sai, I immediately think Fujiwara no Sai.

      • Sensational Sai

        I actually use Sai as my pen name for my own webcomic. Ma Sai is a character of mine from long ago though, a chinese half white tiger demon.

        • I like white tigers….can you link your comic?

          • Sensational Sai

            Aha, no dear, the comic isn’t about him, I just used to use him while RPing. Mine’s about a whole other different BL XD

          • That is fine, I would never turn down the opportunity to add another web comic to my collection read another web comic. ^_^

          • Look up Gilded Cage. It’s the new comic he’s doing along with Lori.

          • Sensational Sai

            Goodness me you little walking ad you!

          • Sensational Sai

            Saw you added us on fbook, thanks luv!

          • No problem ^_^

    • You’re no longer stuck on a boat 😀

      • Sensational Sai

        Very true my dearie!

  • Sethy

    Waiting for Kyle to break free… seriously why is it taking so long? The chains don’t even look like they are on that tight. Come on Kyle!

    • Steven K.

      Their magical properties make them tighter than they appear, or less able to be disrupted/broken.

  • Saxon_Brenton

    How about a Wild Mass Guessing contest? So the next page is the last page of chapter 2? Fine. From storytelling point of view that means the major narrative situation has to be resolved and forwarded on to the next phase of the plot. For me that looks like it will in some way be the end of the Kyle-chained-to-the-bed-while-the-villains-get-to-exposit-their-plans part of the story. The question is: how?

    A few pages ago someone (I can’t recall who, sorry) made the extremely perceptive observation that Duncan didn’t have to let Kyle know what he was planning. That since the Platinum Priestess has used perception altering magics before (the invisibility power, and the binding spell that prevents pain and only allows pleasure) the two villains should have been able to keep Kyle from even hearing Anni bargaining with Laampros. Maybe a sleep spell, maybe an illusion to make him think he was still having sex with Duncan, whatever. And I agree with this. Tactically it’s the type of error that (semi-faceciously) confirms that Duncan is a supervillain at heart: his arrogance has let him make a stupid mistake.

    But let’s just pause for a moment and ask: maybe Duncan’s going to zap Kyle with an amnesia spell and make him forget everything. (If nothing else that would certainly complicate the interpretation of his current monologuing, since from Duncan’s point of view there would be no need to use it to placate Kyle’s anger.) But I digress…

    Anyway, I feel safe in thinking that the current situation is going to radically change, either next page in setting up for chapter 3, or early in chapter 3. The possibilities I see are:

    * Duncan makes the supervillain mistake of thinking ‘no one and nothing can stop me now!’ He releases Kyle in some manner, overconfident that there’s nothing Kyle can do to stop the forces that have been set in motion. On the one hand this may involve teleporting Kyle back to the city (done by the sudden appearance of the Priestess, or by Duncan activating a magical trinket that the Priestess has previously empowered). Or it may involve Duncan telling Kyle that the binding spell will wear off shortly, that there are clothes and a mobile phone in the box for him to call the Commander to retrieve him, and then Duncan just walking off.

    * Alternatively Duncan is smart enough to not want Kyle trying to thwart the deal with Laampros, either by himself or by calling for help. He might:
    – Wipe Kyle’s memory, and chapter 2 ends on an ersatz happy ending, with Kyle thinking that the burnt out state of the warehouse is because he has really good sex. Of necessity chapter 3 would then involve a bit of a detective story in uncovering what had really happened.
    – Try to imprison Kyle for the duration of the demonic invasion. Options include: temporal stasis spell, leaving Kyle chained to the bed because the binding spell prevents him from any physical harm but not boredom, locking him a mundane prison cell, etc.
    – Try to win Kyle over to his side. I think this is highly unlikely given what Duncan knows of Kyle’s personality, but it might be amusing for Kyle to try and trick Duncan with a line like: “I am my father’s son, and embrace my dark heritage in mind and soul. Tell me your plans, Annihilator, and I will assist you to the fullest extent” before punching Duncan’s lights out.

    A variable that is independent of Duncan’s plans is that Spooky (or some other mage) has detected the breach between universes and traced it back to the warehouse, so that the Young Protectors (or some other hero group) arrive and rescue Kyle.

    So, assuming that the changeover in chapters will bring a new situation to the story, what happily demented Wild Mass Guessings do *you* anticipate?

    • SofiaT

      I think the next page will be an “end scene” page, with minimal talking. I think Anni is done monologuing.

      So, your amnesia spell sounds plausible, but what I had in mind was something along the lines of Duncan simply leaving. Of course, something unexpected could also happen, like Duncan performing another spell, transporting Kyle somewhere else or whatever Alex’s imagination creates. But it has to be done in only one page and it has to give the sense of a curtain closing -the chapter can’t be left there mid-scene and then open on the same spot on chapter 3; so I doubt the team is about to show up for example.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        But it has to be done in only one page and it has to give the sense of a curtain closing -the chapter can’t be left there mid-scene and opening on the same spot on chapter 3, so I doubt the team is about to show up for example.

        I agree absolutely about the one page limit, and the same with the sense of curtain closing. Those put major limits on the narrative structure. However after thinking about it I’d nitpick that if Duncan could freeze Kyle with a stasis spell for a downer ending to chapter 2, with the action picking up in chapter 3 with mystery of where Kyle is (from the other characters’ point-of-view) or how long it will be until the other characters notice and rectify Kyle’s disappearance (from the reader point-of-view)

        • SofiaT

          Yes, that’s something I could easily see happening -it’s what I meant by another spell being performed.

          Another thing about the last page of a chapter, is that it has to have an emotional “closure” for the viewer. For example in the last page of chapter 1, Kyle is walking down the street all happy for his first kiss and the chapter ends on a high emotional note. That will obviously not be the case here but I imagine something like what you discribed above (so the viewer is left feeling dread about what’s going to happen to Kyle next) or… if the chapter ends in the most simple of ways, with Duncan departing, I can imagine the first top of the page being Duncan with his back turned to Kyle and on his way out of the door. Then the door closes behind him -next panel, Kyle still in bed, the bonds come undone and he finally lets our a scream. End Scene.

          …Or something along these lines.
          I’m sure Alex’s imagination far surpasses my own.

          • steelie

            I can definitely picture that. It would leave us all suitably angst-ridden and in suspense.

    • steelie

      Cliffhanger! Duncan will explain that he must regretfully (cough, cough, BS!) leave Kyle chained until he has activated the other key and completed the bargain. Duncan walks out. Kyle flips out and breaks the fire chains freeing himself. Scene ends. Noooooo! We are left with too many questions – will Kyle find his way back in time to prevent Duncan from completing his evil plot? Will Kyle still be stable? Will my blood pressure remain stable?

      Waiting for the next chapter will be hell, and we’ll all be peeking out the window at night to see if it’s the moon out there or George leering down at all of us.

    • Ren Robles

      My opinion is that we’ll have a quiet last page… probably a full page of Anni leaving and Kyle left to ruminate on his own, unable to do anything.

      • b3nc0

        Yep, a big, unique, page-sized, mute panel maybe.

    • I did expect beforehand that Duncan/PP would do an amnesia spell on Kyle, but that was before Laampy identified Kyle as his son. Not so sure Duncan will do it now.

    • Klaus

      Let me repeat my guess here: Duncan say something like: “The chains will disappear in an hour or so. There are clothes in the box. To get to the nearest highway, follow the creek”. Then he will leap away.

      • Steven K.

        I could at least live with that – it would be a big relief to me if Kyle could get out with some dignity (physical at least) like that. Sure would have liked them to have kind of a battle after that though and somehow Kyle getting a bit of an upper hand on Duncan for a change – maybe with Duncan having to escape and then Kyle being left there to get dressed and make it back. (Or some completely sappy and totally unrealistic thing like Duncan just having a total psychological and emotional breakdown after this bit of talk and confessing how he’s actually been in love with Kyle all this time and thought it was weak and went ahead with his plan to try to “get it out of his system” but now, at last, seeing Kyle like this, he’s totally wracked with guilt for the first time in his life and can’t believe he just did that to him and …and …?)

        • Shella_Bluey

          I like the sappy part of your comment. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            I do too, actually – lol. Maybe we even see a tear or 2 run down his cheeks as he breaks down – and muttering something about “I know you can never forgive me, that’s why I can’t ask – I’m sooo sorry – I’ve just ruined my one potential chance for happiness and hurt the boy I love in the process – but ..but I NEEDED ..hopefully you’ll understand someday – I know you hate me now – forever – but – I know you can’t ever believe this either – but no matter what happens – I’ll always love you – the spell will wear off soon and their are clothes in the box – good night my sweet (hell-)prince of a little hero (kisses him). I truly am sorry – good bye”

          • Shella_Bluey

            Oh god, that’s really heartbreaking. Now I need a handkerchief.

  • La Belle Gigi

    I get the feeling Duncan is blathering on and on because he wants Kyle to gather all the other superpowered young’uns to battle Laampuru-sama.

  • Ok, I know that this has nothing whatsoever to do with this comic, but this was just so freaking funny, I though I would share it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAUZIw95ueM&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1VYb0EKcZuy9rG3q0VR57Q

    • RozelynBlack

      I loved the original but this version sounds great!!

  • Denita Brown

    Duncan is man full of contradictions…..cant wait for more!!!

  • Sapfo

    full moon here to night. Looked up and thought of … George are you there?

    • I’ve done that. :

      • Sapfo

        He did not show last night. I will still hold on to my hope, but he might be out on that “never ending quest to save his boyfiend” 😉

        • We should probably be glad of that. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            AJ, you can not really mean that!?! o.O

          • SofiaT

            *whispers* George freaks me out.

            There. I said it.

          • Sapfo

            I have an idea. Duncan gets America, Laampros get the rest of the world, EXCEPT for Sweden (possibly Scandinavia) that goes to George. Does not that seem fair?

            Then Sofia, you dont have to worry about George 😉

          • SofiaT

            *sigh* I guess I’ll have to take seeing Northern Lights off my bucket list.

          • Sapfo

            — and then Kyle saves the world?

            Welcome to Sweden Sofia!

          • SofiaT

            …will he save the world from George too??

          • Sapfo

            No, he will turn George into a very good looking man, and He will get his Clave… how are even better looking man. And then there will be a threesome….. I mighte have got this part wrong <..>

          • SofiaT

            I think you forgot Cathy. 😛

          • Sapfo

            ….and Cathy finally went on that tripp you always wanted to make. Meeting the man of her dreams… and then his beautiful wife 😉

          • SofiaT

            “…isn’t it ironic? Don’t you think?” 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Yes, it is 🙂

          • I just don’t know if I want him staring at me when I’m out in the yard.

  • Here’s the podcast of the radio interview I did this week:

    https://soundcloud.com/merry-gangemi/woolfson-11-14-2013

    It might sound like I have a cold, but nope, that’s my regular voice. 😉 (And I used my phone’s head set, but I’m a bit breath-y. I’ll have to try it without the headset next time…)

    • SofiaT

      Awesome! Thanks, Alex! 😀

      P.S: I like breath-y 😛

      • LOL. Good to know…

        • SofiaT

          When you told her that you were glad to bring her “over to dark side”, nice use of “breath-y” there 😉

          Btw, about Clarice, I always found her more scary in the panels where she looked sweet and understanding -motherly almost- than when you could see “the darkness in her eyes”.

          • Heh. I found that the “darkness in her eyes” made me grin. But then I like a good villain. 😉

          • SofiaT

            Who doesn’t? 😀
            I guess the darkness in her eyes excited me, the “sweetness” scared the shit out of me! It was the same thing with Duncan. In that one very romantic page mid-chapter 2, I had a feeling of dread I didn’t even have when we were transported in hell.

            I like being contrary I guess.

    • Sensational Sai

      Ah ~fans self~ You sound absolutely delicious! How are you not nervous on there?

      • Ha! Well, I’m talking about what I love. That always makes things easier. 😉

        • Sensational Sai

          Totally does. Glad you got some air time.

        • Steven K.

          Yeah – I normally wouldn’t be so “forward” in certain respects (and I don’t mean this in a creepy stalker-ish kinda way, but since you mentioned a concern with the way your voice sounded [and I absolutely HATE the way my voice sounds on tape or recordings / electronic media / phone, etc., so I can understand]), but I think your voice sounded rather hot in that interview. So I guess I’d have to agree with Sai on that one.
          And I think you sounded even more relaxed and chill than in your Kickstarter video.

    • dereule101

      GREAT interview. You know, I never consciously connected Clarice to the idea of being a proxy for a parent/creator, but it totally makes sense. Deacon trying to prove his validity as a person, and the threat of his creator’s rejection, is part of what makes him so very sympathetic to a gay reader.

      Edit: Another thing I totally get is the Samwise thing.

      • Thank you! Glad to hear the Clarice parent subtext makes sense (and yes, there is that connection for folks who grew up LGBTQ.)

        And we should form a Samwise-shippers club! 😀

    • silibub

      Thanks for the link — I was so sad I couldn’t catch the show live. You did a great job! You sounded really articulate and enthusiastic about your work, and it was such a pleasure to listen to.

      Really interesting info about Artifice and its development, too. I’m glad you got to discuss the significance of the “artificial person” as a metaphor for sexual minorities, and of the authority figures in the comic as reflections of society’s judgment and the threat of rejection. You know, I’m working on a (long-ass) review and analysis of The Young Protectors as it stands so far — I figured I’d wait until the end of Chapter 2 proper to post it — where I discuss this comic a bit in relation to Artifice, and one of the things I absolutely noted and loved about Artifice is the way the sense of tension works on multiple levels throughout the story. It’s not just the immediate crisis, but what Maven’s dismissal of Deacon would mean symbolically, that created this wonderful strain throughout their long scene together. Considering what Deacon represents, there’s a lot more at stake than his and Jeff’s personal safety. I was just really taken by the narrative depth of such a compact story.

      And regarding Maven, I’m really impressed that you could pinpoint that her original “dumbed-down” characterization was sapping the satisfaction out of the story, and then revise it even though you were worried it would alter the course of the story as you had planned it. Chopping up your work and improving it can be fun, but it’s often a difficult and stressful process, and I’m glad it worked out so brilliantly in the end. Anyway, sorry I keep rambling. It was a great interview, and I hope you get to do something similar down the line where you talk about The Young Protectors in more detail!

      • Thank you, silibub! I really appreciate this thoughtful reaction. Yep, that decision I made about Maven was one of those watershed moments where I learned a lesson about writing that will stick with me forever.

        (And I do hope someday to be able to talk about The Young Protectors in the same detail. Maybe once the Engaging the Enemy arc is finished. 🙂 )

        • silibub

          If it’s a radio interview where people can call in, I’ll be the creep who’s like, “Sooo…if I were to Photoshop a marriage license for me and Sircea, would you acknowledge that as the comic’s creator or…?”

          • LOL… Never give up Silibub…

            You make me smile every time you gently mention this and, being the noble giving sort that I am… well I want Sircea redeemed TOO… AND I want her to find love… and I think YOU might be just person to achieve both. 😀

          • silibub

            I’m nothing if not persistent to the point of obsessiveness! I’m glad it’s amusing as intended and not annoying.

            And AHA, finally, we’ve got a shipper on deck! Now I need to scrounge up enough money to bribe Alex into including me in the comic in this specific role. Even if it’s just as some weirdo drooling in the background of whatever panels Sircea’s in. ♥

    • fujoshifanatic

      It was a great interview Alex; quite a welcome respite from the absolutely crazy work week I came back to from my trip. I really enjoyed the insights you revealed about yourself through your references to Lord of the Rings and Dykes to Watch Out For (a truly watershed comic during my coming out process, I might add). Truth be told, they were evident in your work, but it was nice to hear you talk about them in a different context, and get a better picture of the artist himself, and not just through his work. And you sounded just fine–the breath-y thing works for you. 😉

      • Thank you so much. 🙂 Very cool to hear that DTWOF was part of your coming out process too. (And interesting that you can see their influence in my own work. Now I’m curious.)

        • fujoshifanatic

          LOL, well, for one, I can see the influence in the way your characters interact intimately, whether or not it’s in a sexual context. In DTWOF, most of the relationships–even the hookups–never felt contrived, melodramatic, or utterly random. The reader could see the development between the people involved, and it felt not only germane and organic to the storyline, but to the characters involved themselves.

          If a character was snarky, sweet, moody, cranky, funny, or what-have-you, they didn’t lose that during sexy times, which always made it more believable (and achievable to my young questioning mind), whether it was a long-term relationship or a one-night stand. In the DTWOF world, sex was funny, fun, a stress relief, sometimes a surprise, occasionally a chore, but most definitely a positive privilege shared between people however they respectfully chose to express it.

          That sentiment is evident in your work, from your earlier comic, Tough (which I really hope you can finish some day), to Artifice and TYP. From Mike Castro’s “no kissing” rule to Jeff’s snarky commentary to Kyle’s “Sweet!” enthusiasm, the sex they end up having feels true to who they are, and totally hot because of it, without ever having to venture into porny or melodramatic territory. Even in the fantastical scenarios of Artifice and TYP, the intimacy felt real (even for a while between Kyle and Anni there), and made the sex even better.

          I could go on, but it’s already time to start my day, and hungry kitties wait for no one. Hope I have sated your curiosity some, and by the way, regarding LOTR, though I thought Legolas was veery pretty, I also wanted to take SamWise home with me, as I have a soft spot for short, sweet dudes or dudettes I can look in the eye and snuggle with. ;-P

          • Jamie Dutton

            I second the hope for him to finish “Tough” someday!

          • Wow. That’s a lovely take on my work. Thank you. All those things are important to me. I’m delighted you see them in my comics. Thank you for taking the time to write this. Made my day. 🙂

    • Steven K.

      Hmmmm…..The belief that sweetness and loyalty are romantic and even erotic – I couldn’t agree more. So….desperately hoping/yearning we get some of that at some point down the road here, instead of just what turned out to be pretend/faux sweetness for the sake of seduction and violation, ultimately ending in betrayal. Would be awesome if we got some true sweetness AND loyalty along the way, as that would make things truly romantic and erotic, rather than just painful and heart-rending. And Duncan was sooo good at the sweetness and caring part. Maybe that’s why it hurt so much to learn it was all an act – how could THAT have been just an act. He snookered so many of us. Unlike some others here, under the circumstances, I certainly can’t blame Kyle – not one jot. I also think it was interesting when you said that such difficult things (and violence, etc.) may be easier to deal with in illustrated form than how shown in films, etc. – BUT, this book/story is SO incredibly drawn, the characters and their expressions so astutely and wisely depicted, so true to life, that this story, for me, has the same problem – I feel for the characters so much because I don’t see it as an illustrated story – the characters are so well written and depicted that it becomes just as moving as if it were live-action film, or even …real life.

    • Sapfo

      Got to finally hear it… I do love Samwise too…

      It was really good, and it´s fun to hear the voice from someone I have seen “talk” so much before.

      • Thank you!

        And have you only known me through my fingers on the keyboard? Did I sound like you expected?

        • Sapfo

          Yes, before this intervju I have only “seen” your voice.
          I did not really know what dialect I expected that you would have. Pondered before I started the interview and have to admit that it was really exciting before your voice were heard. You have a nice accent and it fits you 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Tip: you can both see and hear him talk on TYP kickstarter video 😀

            I think he was more relaxed in the interview though, he surely sounded more like it.

            Maybe he likes being behind the camera more than being in front of it 🙂

          • Well, if you want to see the real me, this is the video to watch:

            http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexwoolfson/artifice-graphic-novel-print-drive/posts/194254

            (But yes, I do enjoy more being behind the camera rather than in front of it. 😉 )

          • SofiaT

            THAT.WAS.AWESOME!
            I laughed out loud. Not “lol’d”-Really laughed out loud. You’re amazing. Thank you!

          • I’m very glad you liked it! That’s both who I really am in real life and the kind of video editing I like to do for the day job. 😉

          • SofiaT

            From your writing, I had pictured you being exactly like that. You’re the perfect mix of cool and goofy! 😀

          • 😀

          • Oh you brought a smile on my face. I haven’t seen this since you first posted it back then.
            And I just realized I’ve never seen (gotten?) that extra bonus story pdf from back then. How in the world did I miss that one mail? I’m pretty sure I read all updates I got from Artifice o.O
            Now I really wish I had read it * sad puppy-eyes*

          • Not to worry. You haven’t missed anything, DanishWolf. It hasn’t yet been created. 🙁 Winona has been super-busy for the last year so blocking out that time hasn’t been possible yet.

            Currently we are working on the Artifice Kickstarter Limited Edition Print which I decided to start with because it’s a single image (vs. several pages of comics) and I was hoping to build some momentum. Progress is being made on that (I just got an update from Winona this week about it) so once that is finished, it’s my hope that we’ll immediately be able to start on the Bonus Comic.

            I am following up consistently with Winona, so this bonus comic will absolutely get done. As soon as I have some work-in-progress art, you’ll be seeing it in a future Artifice Kickstarter update. 🙂

          • Ah oki, no worries then 🙂 I’m perfectly fine with waiting on it the time it takes. It was the thought of having missed it.

          • SofiaT

            Is this one of those “kickstarter backers only” things?

          • For the time being. The Kickstarter backers will get the PDF downloads. Then I’ll decide what I want to do with it in terms of a wider release. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            This is what happens when you discover amazing comics a year too late. *sigh*

            Hopefully you’ll release it to the rest of your fans at a later date. We’ll be waiting (im)patiently! 🙂

          • I agree… it’s killer. I WANT IT LIKE A KID AT CHRISTMAS HA! BUT did you read the ARTIFICE book all at once as a single book? (I don’t know when you came to it) I am very glad I’m here now, but reading serially is such a different experience. I almost can’t imagine reading ARTIFICE a page at a time, told in flash back the way it is, is fantastic, but imagining that once a week is almost frightening to my personal sensibility. As I’m sure is more than obvious, distancing myself from story, character and art that I love is not one of my strengths.

          • I think so. It’s a short 5-10 pages bonus ‘scene’ that will be sent to the backers as a pdf.

            Edit. Just saw that Alex has replied 🙂

          • Thanks goodness you’re in charge… that’s all I’ll say. 😀

          • silibub

            Aaaahhh! I had my hands pressed to the sides of my face and was making little pterodactyl noises the whole time. You’re adorable and hilarious and I really want to go get a beer with you.

          • In order to minimize the extreme pressure on our Alex for his next Kickstarter video he asks Duncan to do a first draft on the script. Of course Alex will have editorial control.

            DUNCAN’S FIRST DRAFT:

            Hi, this is Alex Woolfson of THE YOUNG PROTECTORS and ARTIFICE fame. Now let’s cut this ^$%#$%# short and save ourselves some time, okay? I wan’t you to go to your wallet and empty all the money in it into a giant envelope, followed by any spare change in that giant Sparklett’s bottle you’ve been putting coins in saving for that liver transplant for grandma (awww she’ll be fine), get all the money mom keeps on top of the fridge for Sunday dinner and mail it all HERE (insert link with Yaoi911 address). Then I want you to go and get all your plastic and donate to my Kickstarter projetct… Visa, Paypal, Mastercard, Dinersclub (but only if you must) and max those out to this address (insert Yaoi911 ccard info) — don’t worry about “maxing out” — people say that like its a bad thing, but remember credit cards are like buckets they’re meant to be emptied and refilled. If your husbands, wives, significant others get upset, then have them call one of these numbers (inserts number of Yaoi911 MODS here). Follow these simple directions and I’ll have enough money to retire on my tropical isla….. erm… NO SCRATCH THAT… ermm… I mean to work twice a hard to create great art for you all to enjoy! Yeah! That’s what I meant to say… So thank for listening and remember your little brothers and sisters will be fine and a few hungry nights will be great for their waistlines, so you’re doing a good deed…TRUST ME… right Kyle?”

            “MMMMmmmm”

            “Oooosie… seems that pesky little paralysis spell isn’t quite done yet but I’m sure he’d agree. So thanks again for your help with this years Kickstarter.”

            *Duncan lick’s seals the FedEx envelope and sends if off to Yaoi911 thinking that all this good deeding is much more exhausting than he had expected*

            A FEDEX PACKET ARRIVES AT THE POSH OFFICE SUITES HOUSING THE YAIO911 OFFICES

            *An exhausted Alex reads Duncan’s first draft and realizes he has a bit of work to do he realizes supper villain is NOT in any way a euphemism…*

          • Thank you, Sapfo. 🙂 (And it’s interesting to think of my voice having an “accent.” 😀 )

          • Sapfo

            Yes, everyone have one xD

            (You really made me laugh with thouse bloopers)

          • Hehe. Glad to hear it. 😉

        • I went to Bent-con and he doesn’t look anything like a keyboard. Seriously he looks much more like his avatar… no really. 😉

    • Awesome interview, Alex! I heard nothing that sounded like a cold. 🙂

    • Xithyl

      Hi Alex, listening to your interview opened my eyes to a few new layers of Artifice that I didn’t realize was there. That’s @#$%@%! awesome man.

      • I’m really glad you liked it, Xithyl! Thank you! 🙂

    • Thank you… was on the look out for that! Must sleep, but something to look forward too tomorrow. 🙂

    • Alex,

      I was privileged to listen to your interview twice while trying to exhaust my dog… no chance on pooping out the dog, but your interview was both impressively articulate, and you did an amazing job of walking that line of sharing what makes art fascinating when listening to an artist talk about their motivations in creating something special and yet not in anyway telling a future reader how they should be reading and feeling about work new to them. Kudos to you. Not an easy line to walk and you did it with style and no sign of a cold, so we can’t really tease you about the sexy 1-900-phone voice I was hoping for DARN!

      I like to think of myself as having done a few things in life that can help me be proud to be in the ‘gay club’ (and no, nothing to do with my utility belt). That said, it doesn’t happen nearly often enough that I sit listening to someone I’m distantly acquainted with and grin just because they made being gay sound cool. What I hope, is that if I suddenly, magically get talented, and then interviewed because of it (go ahead everyone hold their breath it could happen any time now… Solomon knew about this stuff… heh heh heh) that I do half as well with my interviewer as you did with this one.

      Finally, thank you also for sharing, so honestly, about your struggle in getting Mavin just right at then end of ARTIFICE. I think for so many of us, who are trying to express ourselves in many different arts, it is so easy to imagine that it’s just a big old bundle of talent and not the constant questioning and hard work that it actually really is.

      I thought your interviewer was both well prepared and not a “fan-girl” in the funny sense, but a “fan” in the true sense. I would be willing to bet that, like many of us, who ‘discovered’ the unique magic of Graphic Novels as adults, you have created another surprised convert with your thoughtful film-maker’s attitude.

      *** OH MY GOD *** Sofia is right, (ouch) I am monologuing. Sorry Alex I have to stop immediately… OMG… Monologuing… Arg… ***End of Days ensues***

      • Thank you, Chris. I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a thoughtful reaction.

        And yes, creation is mostly about questioning your choices and hard work, right? 😀 There are those special moments where it all flows as smoothly as melted butter, but those moments are, in my experience, not the norm. For me, the real pleasure comes in sharing what you’ve worked so hard on—and in the satisfaction that you gave it your all.

        Give your dog a scratch behind the ear for me! 😀

  • Emiko

    i SO BADLY want Kyle to beat his ass UP!!

  • Lunam_Kardas

    Honestly I think Kyle would be justified if he cut in with a:

    “Yeah yeah, you have it rough, can we go back to the part where you knew MY DAD IS A DEMON and you didn’t throw something over my junk before he showed up?! I mean goddamn Duncan, would it have been too much to ask that my first impression on him have SOME small manner of dignity? Oh and don’t bullshit me by saying there wasn’t enough time, YOU HAD ENOUGH TIME TO GET COMPLETELY DRESSED.”

    • Steven K.

      AMEN to that !!!

      • Lunam_Kardas

        AND he just called Kyle’s dad a foul creature, not a good move bro not a good move.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Yeah, look who’s calling Laampy a foul creature!
          Duncan: “….billions of mortal souls to use and devour.”
          Page 41, panel 1

        • Okay I was very impressed with Alex pre-empting all of us with that little quote at the very top of his commentary (nice):

          “Foul creature”? Dude, that’s his Dad. Show some respect!

          Alex, Alex, Alex… HA! He knows us too well and initiated a preemptive strike.

    • Klaus

      Did Laampros mean it literally when he called Kyle his son? If so, was he telling the truth? If so, did Duncan know? He may just have that Kyle had some demon ancestry, not who and how close.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        He hasn’t shown any surprise so far at Laampros being Kyle’s father.

        • Klaus

          Did he even notice? He was curled up in pain some distance away. Maybe Laampros was speaking very softly.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            It’s possible that if Laampros was speaking softly Duncan didn’t notice. He was still clutching his arm when Laampros came back from talking with Kyle, and showed no surprise at all at the revelation.

          • Steven K.

            I have been wondering that myself!

    • EldrinSMP

      I can see the reply:

      “Little hero, your father was naked as well. It’s official dress for the Rulers of Hell.”

      • Steven K.

        Ha! I usually don’t like joking where Kyle’s current situation is concerned – nothing to be funny about in my opinion – BUT… …that was witty enough and appropriate enough to get a smirk out of me 😉

        • Agreed.

          I mean doesn’t simply everyone know that nakedness is positively de rigueur in hell? Could have been what made Laampy so cranky with Duncan right from the start? He was over dressed… are we SURE Duncan is gay? See? This is yet another reason I miss Sonny, I could quiz him on what the Bi-gene does regarding the genetic fashion sense…

          (Okay I know I’m joking on this one, because I have a terrible fashion sense and I am FULLY gay… still with Sonny, I’ll bet we could still get a good debate out of it! 😀 )

    • Lunam, I really hope you up-voted my Duncan rant a few pages ago for THAT along. YOURS though is a PERFECT example of how purely MEAN Duncan is to our poor Kyle. I’m so with you… Dude… it’s his dad. Just cover the junk at the very least. But nope Duncan, is too MEAN to even do that.

      And I’ll stop there. Everyone on this list should up-vote Lunam_Kardas’ comment on THAT alone. His cogent observation has saved you all from ChrisD ranting on (YET AGAIN) about what a big meanie Duncan is for… erm… like 40 pages… or so.

      If that’s not worth an up-vote for Lunam, then I don’t know what is! *laughs*

      Thank you Lunam! (FYI — my up-vote was worth at least 3,675 extra)

      • Lunam_Kardas

        Lol I’m glad you like it!

  • The Incredibles is playing on tv and it just reminds me how much I love Edna. Do Kyle and his team mates or the other heroes have a designer they go to for their super-suits?

    • dereule101

      I’m now picturing a Project Runway-esque sewing room at Young Protectors headquarters. Commander is worried that she will be criticized for showing another cropped military jacket, Red Hot and Fluke are passive-aggressively accusing one another of stealing the skin tight body suit idea, and The Annihilator comes through occasionally to make frowny pensive faces and tell them if their designs are “troubling.” When the emergency siren sounds, everybody goes running out of HQ full of straight pins and unfinished hems.

    • Ahahahahahahah… NO CAPES! One of the funniest sequences I’ve ever seen.

  • Thank you, Abbi. You’re a sweetheart. 🙂

  • bronakopdin

    somehow I think it’s interesting that Kyle is silent again… I bet if he wanted he COULD answer to this…

    Oh Anni… again it sounds like your just wanting to justify your actions before yourself ^^’
    at least you show some regret in your face

    • b3nc0

      The regret in the face might just be a blue-balls side-effect…

      • *chris nods hopefully*

        *erm… did I mention I’m mean?*

        • bronakopdin

          xD well blue balls can be regretful… I guess… good thing I don’t know these problems :p

  • dereule101

    I wonder what all The Annihilator keeps in those utility belt compartments. We know he’s got a cell phone, but what else? Probably not a chapstick, a bus pass, or toffees.

    • Keys and gum? Maybe a few smoke bombs? Tacks to throw under car wheels?

      • dereule101

        Yes! I’m sure he wanted his breath to be wint-o-minty for Kyle, although I’ll bet he’s got more effective anti-automobile techniques.

        • Oh sure, he would be able to smack a car about with a flick of his wrist. But you never know. 🙂

      • Well after Hong Kong, I’m sure he has a nullifier nullifier… erm… can I even say that? Then they’d have to get a nullifier nullifier nullifier nullifier and… oh.. never mind.

        • Ha! It’s like in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, only the winner gets to travel back in time?

          • Oh Lordy… and live chapter two over again? Oh please no! I don’t think I can do it. *snort*

            I’ve already decimated your comfort muffin supply as it is! LOL

          • But that would be reliving Chapter 1 over again.

            Edit: AND you would never run out of muffins now would you?

          • OH… yeahhhhhhh… ummmm… ermmm… See this is why I’m NOT a time lord I just really like them on Television. My Tardis would be really confused.

            Can I just say… “YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.” and leave it at that?

          • I suppose I could, but wrong type of time machine. Old phone booth vs Old Police Box.

          • Well, I’m pretty sure Adam is off-line so I’m safe in saying something about getting the wrong box… 🙂

          • HA! But that doesn’t mean he won’t see this one at a different time. Remember he is an Evil Genius. Mind the capitals.

          • heh heh heh… yes… I know he’s an EG… but if I don’t put the magic ancient arcane Solomon sympol of “@” in front of his name I’m safe right?” HA

          • Not in the least! His name was uttered and ’tis only a matter of time before he descends and offers us the benefit of his EGness.

          • oh

          • Oh he says. What did you think happened with an EG? 😀

          • uh oh I feel a debate coming on… JUST because you are an EG doesn’t mean you are omniscient! But I have been suspecting the frequent lurker of a Guest Voter we see round occasionally, it just might be our own AB trying to decide if we’re worth the time for him to come cause trouble with or not….

            Of course I have no proof… I supposed if any guest posts any A.A. Milne quotes we’ll probably know it’s not him

          • Of course it means he’s omniscient. How else would he be an EG if he didn’t know all?

            But it could be as in Harry Potter where is name has a spell attached letting him know the when and where of his mention.

          • Adam Black

            drugs, magic, and psychological illusions

          • Adam Black

            NO, it only took “AB”.

          • Adam Black

            @chrisdangerfield:disqus ?
            are you asleep?

            probably getting laid with sexy husband instead of reading comics with strangers with strangers like the cool kids

            poor guy

          • Adam Black

            but this thread is making me dizzy

          • How comes?

          • Adam Black

            bodies are weird and overly complicated.

            we have no direct knowledge of anything, and only rough signals oversampled by multiple hormones that are all too fuzzy to give any kind of meaningful answer; so if you try, some jackass with half an ounce of medical knowledge can accuse you of pseudoscience for merely responding with common intiutive signals you are given.

            um what was the question?

          • Ha! What was making you dizzy. Still affect by the cold?

          • Adam Black

            reading this thread . i think i am over it, but who knows.
            maybe its gone into hiding

          • Sometimes putting your mind on something else helps

          • Adam Black

            Great idea.
            you meant drugs right? too late if you didnt HA

          • Adam Black

            You are going make those assumtions when you have my G+ ID?

            ( you obvioulsly havent figured out G+ comment tracking )

            “getting in the wrong box”

            thats between you and your BF.

          • I told you so.

          • Adam Black

            its only a Police Box because the doctor is too lazy to fix the chameleon circuit .

            The exterior isnt even in the same dimension as the interior. Its just a 3d icon shell .

          • Didn’t the 6th Doctor try to fix it and it went haywire? At least that’s what I picked up from the Doctors revisited.

          • Adam Black

            It was broken since episode 1.

            there was once Colin Baker episode where he managed to make it into a grand piano

          • In the revisited I thought it was a curio cabinet.

          • Adam Black

            i remember a pillar, and a white grand piano.

            but I am on drugs, and i saw that in 1987.

          • Hey, I’m basing this off of the Doctor revisited. So if you remember a piano then it was a piano.

    • SofiaT

      I’d really rather not know what a guy called “The Annihilator” keeps in his pockets…

      • Steven K.

        Are the things under your not-wanting-to-know consideration things such as x-tra large condoms, or were you not-wanting-to-know about some other sort of accoutrements.

        • dereule101

          Oh my stars!

        • SofiaT

          Condoms hadn’t even crossed my mind.

          Of course now, they’re all I can think of.

          Thanks Steve 😛

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      viagra?

      • Steven K.

        HA! Maybe that’s age-ist, but still got a chuckle out of me.

    • Steven K.

      He’s got to have some sort of hair-care product in there somewhere.

    • Steven K.

      Assorted Jolly Ranchers would be cool.

      • True that! You can’t go wrong with Jolly Ranchers!

        • Adam Black

          NO, jelly-babies for you

    • Condoms in one of them. You know, the always be prepared saying

      … but not sure it’s appropriate under the current situation. To soon? xD

      • dereule101

        They might have been rubbers before, but I’m pretty sure that after all the time in Hell they’ve liquified.

      • ribbed, colors, (?) what do you think Duncan keeps handy… erm… so to speak ?

        • shesh! Either he has a bit of everything so he can go with what the other person likes.. or he just has a bunch of plain ones, because he knows he’s not gonna need anything extra to pleasure 😉

          • In discussing condoms, I believe DWolf may be quite correct in saying, “he (Duncan) knows he’s not gonna need anything extra to pleasure ;)”

            Admittedly Kyle’s, erm, body of experience hasn’t given him an unlimited genitalian library with which to compare and contrast. Still, I feel Kyle’s look of pleasure in pg21 / panel-2, portrays a certain male satisfaction that I choose to read as dude-speak saying: “hells ya!” and thus, in my mind, confirming DWolf’s phallic hypothesis.

            http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-21

          • Steven K.

            Sure wish I had more of an unlimited genitalian library with which to compare and contrast. Has always been a goal in my life, but, like so many other things, just never happened or materialized.

  • Alex,

    Once again, huge compliments to you, Adam and Veronica for another thoughtful, beautiful and top quality page. Real life challenges have been intense lately but, given how consistent you three are in sharing these pages exactly when promised, my lateness with this thank you note seems ridiculously ironic.

    Wonderful work and thank you all. You are so much appreciated.

    Late… but most sincerely,
    ChristopherD

    • SofiaT

      There you are Chris! We’d missed you 🙂

    • I must concur with Sofia! 😀

    • Thank you again, Chris, for the very kind words. I hope that things in real life improve for you soon, but let me join with AJ and Sofia and say we’re all very glad to have you along for the ride with us. 🙂

      Take care!

  • SofiaT

    Donation bar has been tipped, yay!!!

    • Damn right…. I WAN’T OUT OF THIS CHAPTER!!!!! LOL.

      EDIT: So does Magnet Deacon (just saying)

      • SofiaT

        I had a feeling you had something to do with it… 😀

        Good thing Magnet Deacon is an android, I would have thrown up if I was left hanging upside down for so long!
        The limitations of being human.

        But I’m sure his time to stand proud on the fridge will come soon. *pats back*

        • Thank you… I’m a big softy and based on hope alone he’s inching upwards already (wow… I wish that was as sexy as it sounded… LOL).

          • Why are you punishing that poor innocent magnet for Duncan’s assholeness, Chris?

          • That is a fine and fair question David (of the best Avatar ever!). I’ve been hoping that the horrendous guilt Alex is undergoing, knowing that he’s causing all that synthetic blood to rush to poor Deacon’s head will break down his steely author’s will, and stop him from continuing to tell poor poor Duncan’s sad self-serving story, while our leading man lies paralyzed and chained to that bed-thing.

            No. I am not actually crazy enough to believe that punishing the lovely Deacon and Jeff’s magnet is going to actually change anything… NOPE… unfortunately I’m not that nutz (quiet all of you in the peanut gallery), but it seemed like the only form of protest I had left, since there are parts of my person that I simply will not nail down to the Red Square to make a point… no matter what certain folk say.

            Kyle has been locked down silent for so long that I think some of our readers, here in serial story-land, may have forgotten that, once upon a time, this was actually a story about Kyle.

            I just sent poor beleaguered Alex a picture of Fridge Deacon & Jeff at 6:35. I live in hope and while I know the last page or two of this chapter will have to be severe and bleak… I’m armored up and determined that D&J are not slipping back to 6:30. I’m hoping this will encourage Alex… Just one hint of kindness to our Kyle and maybe we could get the boys nearer to 6:40

            See how sensible all this is? Come don’t you just feel the motivation? I’m just your every day reader doing what little he can to make the world a kinder place. That’s all. 😀

            Best,
            ChrisD

          • SofiaT

            In fewer words: you’re holding Deacon captive to blackmail Alex and further your cause for “the greater good” (of Kyle).

            …And now that I think about it… The comment above sounds suspiciously like a monologue.

            *gasps* You Sir, you had fooled us all into thinking you’re the good guy when in truth… You’re the villain!!

          • Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahcoughcough…

            *holds up his hands in surrender*

            Touché good Sofia… touché.

            (Thanks goodness I really do have to walk the dog and that will give me time to think about this. There has got to be a way that the WoG will get me out of this one unscathed and looking like one of the good guys…)

            *chris heads out to walk the dog which, as we ALL know, is a very GOOD DEED* 😀

          • Okay the dog is walked and I’m practically bursting with virtue…

            So, now isn’t the fact that I’m fighting, not selfishly for the man I know is going to feed us all to the devil for his own youth… BECAUSE HE’S CUUUUTE.

            Rather, I’m working hard on behalf of the one who I’ve been told by the WoG (see how I slipped that in there in a stinky self-serving way) is going to save us all.

            So since I’m trying to save our “hero” … and not just because he’s HOT (although that helps… just being honest), but because I’m thinking of YOU Sofia. Without my hard work with Magnet Deacon & Jeff you might shortly be Laampros-chow and the Admiral could be suffering from exhaustion for having to do the MOD work of two.

            See how good I am? Practically a portrait in selflessness! 🙂

            *chris looks around to see if anyone if buying it*

          • Adam Black

            careful, dont leak “virtue” on the couch, it was just drycleaned

          • Steven K.

            Of course I wholeheartedly agree with and echo all of those spot-on sentiments regarding our Kyle and his situation, etc., etc.

  • Sapfo

    This chapter is coming to an end soon. It have been a rough ride, with emotions both up and down. Alex, Adam and Veronica are really giving us a great comic and my expectations for what will happen next are high.

    Am now ready for bed, early night for the camping tomorrow (and maybe a little sleep can ease my ache body).

    • Good Night Miss Sapfo —

      I agree, up or down, no one can say that the team of Alex, Adam and Veronica (TEAM~AAV) haven’t given their very best on this chapter… that is for sure.

      For you? Sleep will absolutely do the trick! Feel better!!!

      Best,
      ChrisD

      p.s. I wonder if Team AAV has spandex super outfits? Ya think?

      • Sapfo

        Spandex, hmmm…. When you saw our dear Mr. Woolfsson last time, did you see anything behind his collar. Some superheroes can be a little clumsy when they try to hide their spandex under their clothes.
        Mr Dangerfield, This requires investigation of things! TO THE TYP-FAN-CLUB-CAVE!

        • Jamie Dutton

          dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna FAN CAVE!

  • Holly

    Well I sadly have work tomorrow morning. I need to be in bed just as camping will start. So I won’t be participating in the camp at all tonight. I don’t work Saturday so I’ll be here for that. Unless that is just a title page…

    Anyway, miss you all. ~Holly

  • rgleon9986

    I’ll be participating in the camp with the rest of y’all tonight (while I also stay up all night working on a presentation I’m giving for my Puccini class tomorrow :P).

    • davefragments

      You’re teaching puccini?
      Tosca is my favorite drama, Butterfly’s first act love diet thrills…

      • rgleon9986

        Well, not teaching yet. It’s a Puccini seminar, so the students (all of which are doctoral candidates) give the lectures.
        So, when you put it that way, yes, I am teaching a Puccini class!
        My first lecture for the class was over Tosca. 🙂

        • Steven K.

          My favorite line:

          “Ah è morto! Or gli perdono!”

          • rgleon9986

            And my favorite is:

            “Questo è il bacio di Tosca!”

          • Steven K.

            I can hear those dramatic chords of the closing bars in my head now after she hurls herself over the parapet crying: “Oh, Scarpia! We meet before God!”

          • rgleon9986

            Followed immediately by the quote of “E lucevan le stelle.”
            Which, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful arias Puccini wrote. It’s short and sweet, but the text is heartbreaking and hauntingly beautiful.

          • Steven K.

            I’m a sucker for heartbreaking + hauntingly beautiful.

          • Steven K.

            I had mentioned this before in a different context, but a couple weekends ago I saw the Estonian Philharmonic Orchestra perform (under Neemi Jarvi) – they played Sibelius 5th Symph. in an incredibly lush and beautiful performance. But then, as an encore, they played his Andante Festivo, which is rather achingly beautiful to begin with, but they played it with such fervor and intensity, that I was a total puddle of tears by the end and don’t think I’ve heard anything so beautifully played “live” in a long time.

          • davefragments

            when I drive home through the countryside and the sky is clear and lit only by stars, that is the music that comes to mind. Mostly in Pavarotti’s voice.

            Tosca is one of the most tightly written pieces of music with the way Puccini interwove the themes and the stage action.

          • rgleon9986

            Ugh, I’m getting all emotional just talking about it. This, my friends, is the power of opera.

          • Steven K.

            My favorite opera, and a work that I adore more than I can say or describe, is Monteverdi’s Orfeo – which, though not the first opera, is arguably the first GREAT opera.

          • rgleon9986

            Monteverdi’s use of recitative in that opera (which, at least in Monteverdi’s early operas, took precedence over the arias, because it was still the new, innovative method of setting text to music) is so haunting. “Tu se’ morta” is a heartwrenching expression of grief.

          • Steven K.

            I melt when I listen to a really good interpretation of “Possente spirtu” – I have a favorite recording that is long out of production but can still be obtained electronically directly through the DG site. Not only does it have the most amazing interpretation of that aria, but it has a version of “Ecco l’atra palude” that just makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end and also sends the equally proverbial chills down my spine – especially when Speranza repeats the famous inscription over the gates of hell and thus why she must abandon Orfeo on his quest. In this case it’s sung by a powerful countertenor voice that is just amazing.

          • Steven K.

            Yep – that’s right up there too.

        • davefragments

          Let’s giggle over “THIS! is the Kiss of Tosca.” FIrst time I saw Tosca was on TV and I cheered Floria Tosca.

          • rgleon9986

            Ah, yes, my favorite line!!!

    • Steven K.

      Cool – another opera aficionado/a.

  • steelie

    I will pretend to camp; promptly fall asleep on my computer as I have the stamina of a gnat; and then wake up at 3 am and be unable to go back to sleep after seeing the next awful situation for Kyle. I’ll leave s’mores supplies by the fireside – toast a few for me and I’ll be back in the wee hours of the morning chanting “free Kyle NOW!”

    • rgleon9986

      I REALLY wish I could join you on those smores, or pizza, or something similar, but I’ve just gotten on a new diet and exercise program (well, not really a program per se), but I can’t have any junk food and all of my calories have been consumed for today. 🙁
      On the bright side, I’ve lost four pounds over the last two weeks!

      • Congrats!! I myself lost close to 10-15 lbs just by removing sodas from my diet. I am not saying that I was drinking a lot every day, but once I took those out of my diet, I lost a lot of the weight. Good luck on the diet!!! You can do it!!!

    • Jamie Dutton

      FREE KYLE NOW! Free Kyle NOW! Free Ky…..Oooo, s’mores 🙂

    • Steven K.

      Yeah – totally understand those feelings here.

  • BaristaBean

    It’s been a rough few days and I’m definitely glad I found this comic. It’s definitely been a great distraction. Can’t wait for the update!

    • You are in good company!

      • BaristaBean

        So Is everyone camping out tonight/today for the next page?

        • rgleon9986

          It’s tradition!

          • I don’t think I can ever hear/read that again without thinking Ever After.

        • I wouldn’t be surprised, well at least those who can. As rgleon said, it’s tradition!

  • rgleon9986

    Only a few more hours! I’m “super” excited. 😉

    • rgleon9986

      Mwa ha ha ha ha ha! The Punning Pirate strikes!

    • Jamie Dutton

      Lol, I saw what ya did there!

    • Steven K.

      I feel an uncomfortable dread.

      • Do I need to offer laced cocoa? I have flavored vodka.

        • rgleon9986

          Coca?

          • hot chocolate

          • rgleon9986

            lol, I know, I was being goofy.

        • silibub

          gimme

          • the vodka or the cocoa? 😛 ^_^

          • rgleon9986

            Yes.

          • silibub

            If I’m grabbing too fast for you to mix them, just the vodka, lol!

          • Well I have Strawberry Banana and Mango Passion Fruit (a smirnoff sorbet light)

        • Steven K.

          Maybe if it’s laced with some Cointreau and a couple alprazolam tablets.

          • rgleon9986

            My goodness! You are stressed about this! 🙁 *sends a hug*

          • Steven K.

            Thank you kindly.

          • Sorry, all I have is the vodka.

          • *hugs* Things are going to be okay….we have to believe in Alex.

          • Sapfo

            I do have some Cointreau…. but I only have Paracetamol… you should not mix those!

          • Steven K.

            Well, you have god taste in any case.

      • rgleon9986

        Well, with the chapter nearly over, I don’t imagine too many more awful things can happen.

        That being said, we shouldn’t underestimate Alex.

      • silibub

        Me too, just a lot of stressful unease all up in here.

        • Steven K.

          Yep – exactly so 🙁

  • jreed3842

    I’m camping already! I bid hello to you, my fellow campers!

  • Adam Black

    hello , all!

    • Mr. Black! Good evening!

    • It’s Adam!!

      • Adam Black

        barely

      • Adam Black

        one of them atleast

    • Sapfo

      Hi Adam, where have you been?

      • Adam Black

        https://plus.google.com/+AdamBlack/about
        and rebooting the connection

        • Sapfo

          Hope it went well.
          Is that a image of you? O.O

          • Adam Black

            im not Hillary
            ( yeah ) .

            and my connection still seriously sucks.

            20 reconnects in 25 minutes

          • Sapfo

            Oh, thats bad!
            Always look at the bright side of life ….

          • Adam Black

            Oooch!
            I more of a , sleep thru that , kind of guy , and wake up when the dark hides all that nonsense;
            and the fuzzy minds of the daypeople are too fast asleep to interfere with anything good

          • Adam Black

            must be router hackers , or somebody evil on the connection

          • Damn 🙁 I hope you get your problem solved as well.

          • Adam Black

            im install a new router tomorrow over it.

    • Hi, Mr. Black. Good to see you.

      • Adam Black

        thx

      • Adam Black

        thx.
        bad connection tonight tho

      • Adam Black

        Maybe,
        I havent showered, so we will just have to pretend thats true

    • rgleon9986

      Greetings, Mr. Black!

      • Adam Black

        yo

      • Adam Black

        Greetings RGLeons #9681-9989.
        I hope you Gentleclones are well

  • Good evening to all!

    • Hello!

      • How are ya! How’s your week been?

        • Not too bad, still having trouble keeping my days straight. ^_^ You?

          • Not bad. Work’s busy; everyone gearing up for the holidays.

          • Yeah, before I lost my job the holidays were busy for us as well.

          • I’m sorry to hear about your job, Doki. Things will get better. *pats hand*

          • Eventually ^_^ Thanks

          • rgleon9986

            Sorry to hear about that. 🙁 Sending best wishes your way that you find good work soon.

          • Thanks.

    • Hellos!

  • Sapfo

    Everyone else is saying hi, so maybe I should do it to.
    Good morning!

    • Hey! What’s the weather like?

      • Sapfo

        Dark…. But I don´t see George…. I mean the moon.

    • *hugs* Hey Sapfo!!

      • Sapfo

        Be still my heart! Its Doki! *hugs*

        • *blushes* awwww Sapfo, not in front of everyone….

    • Good Morning!

    • rgleon9986

      Oh, hey, morning. Are you across the pond?

      • Sapfo

        Still bruising and tenderness. But good, it´s camping time and I am watching “life of Brian.”

  • Ellen Harman

    Since this is the last page, any ideas on when the next chapter starts? Oh, maybe there will be another interlude, on what some of the others were doing while poor Kyle was all tied up.

    • Hmm. I’m going to say there will likely be an interlude but will it be as “light” as the last one is what I want to know.

    • rgleon9986

      I’m feeling a bit down for a light-hearted interlude like the last one, honestly. But still, maybe.

      • Steven K.

        Same here.

    • Well the first page of Ch 3 will be posted on Sat. I don’t know what may be in it. Other than flying robot ninja pigs.

      • Ellen Harman

        No not ninja pigs, it will feature George! and his army of little lashes. They may be small but they will annoy you til death.

        • I’m pretty certain it’s the flying ninja pigs. 😛

        • Army of little lashes! That’s brilliant. Wish Holly where here to see that.

  • Sapfo

    <..>
    no android and no wolf…. do this mean I dont have to fight for the virgin today?

    • Been wondering that myself…where they are, I mean. I’ve never tried for the virgin before.

      • rgleon9986

        I’ll take that challenge! 😉

      • Sapfo

        It´s absolutely no fun hunting for virgins, it´s really, really boring….. Don´t get any ideas Gryphon, I have my eyes on you o.O

        😉

        • LLLOL! You never know about us Gryphons. We may look all magnificent and stuff but there might be a streak of stealth lurking behind these feathers.

          • Sapfo

            Don´t Gryphones likes riddles also?

          • Sure! But I’m not very good at them.

          • Sapfo

            I have one…. What´s in my pocket?

          • strawberries and pennies

          • Sapfo

            Its a trick… I have no pockets 😉

          • SEE!? I told you I’m not very good at these things.

          • Simba Hutchison

            I believe that is Sphinxes, but could be Gryphons too…

          • Sapfo

            Oh, thats right. So…. what do I have in my pocket…?

          • Simba Hutchison

            Its handses.

          • Sapfo

            My handses are on my keyboard 😉

          • Steven K.

            Sphinxes ask riddles. And if the askee doesn’t come up with the correct or proper response, he/she gets devoured.

          • Devoured is the perfect word! So tell me, Steven, do you think Duncan deserves such a fate?

          • Steven K.

            Getting devoured might be too good for him at the moment. He needs some physical and mental and emotional anguish first. And if he by some miracle can redeem himself and make things up to Kyle somehow (at the moment I can’t see how that could happen) – but, if that miracle happened – then maybe Duncan and Kyle can devour one-another (in a good way …..69-ish kinda way).

    • :3

    • Holly has to work so she won’t be here tonight.

      • Sapfo

        Oh dear, work is an evil thing! 😉

    • I haven’t seen Danish around all day……hasn’t even responded at all to my responses on Starfighter.

      • Sapfo

        Danish took a nap some time ago, she might be sleeping.

    • silibub

      Holly has work in the morning, she said, so I guess she won’t be around unless she can’t sleep. Not sure where Danish is!

      • Danish said something about taking a nap so she might be a sleep.

        • silibub

          Man, I depend on the virgin-comment hunters to tell me when the page is up! I’m too lazy and easily distracted to keep track myself. *whiiiiines*

          • Sapfo

            Virgin hunting are to be taken serious.
            You have to concentrate and be on guard. And do not let yourself be distracted by commentary or links from other fans.

          • silibub

            Yep, waaay too much work, haha!

          • Just don’t go to TV tropes or Wikipedia!

          • Sapfo

            Or youtube!

          • Yes! I forgot that one…how could I?

  • I am camping and fidgety. Come, Alex. Don’t tease your fanbase.

    • Has Alex made any baking comments yet?

      • Not that I’ve seen. >_<

        • There is kneading of dough… Will let you know when it’s in the oven. 😉

          • I see you on Twitter, Alex! I knew you were around.

          • Sapfo

            Better get the bacon and eggs ready for the bread then 😉

          • Yay! I shall make some Nutella S’Mores to celebrate the occasion. AND the BF is not here yet, so hopefully I can catch it before he gets here.

    • Simba Hutchison

      Don’t listen, we like being teased!

  • And the BF is going to be coming over soon, so I can’t camp for tooooo long. >_<

    • Let’s keep our fingers crossed that the page will post before you go off to the rest of your evening…

      • Well, we’re staying in (hinthint) but at the same time I REALLY like our time together in the comments. It makes me laugh

        • Multi-tasking!

          • HA! that is some funny multitasking.
            Snu Snu and TYP. Not sure they mix well 😛

    • Aww!

  • Simba Hutchison

    Nom nom nom S’mores… (‘Allo Everyone!) ^.^

  • *Drops in, growling loudly* Stupid, STUPID computer issues…

    Anyway, hi everyone.
    Had to get Firefox going to be able to get online. An automatic update or/with something in my computer has completely broken my IE., and I have no idea how to fix this ;_;
    *needs a computer savvy right now*

    • :D!!! Danish!!!

    • DANISH! Yay! So glad to see you.

    • Sapfo

      NOOOOO! I mean, Hi Danish! So what you doing here?

      • LOL!

      • Having a temper fit over my computer. Computer technology hates me, and can smell that I’m a noob on the area so it enjoys messing things up.

        ..and it’s trying to ruin my campings D:

        • Sapfo

          Bad computer! Don´t you dare ruin Danish morning!

          BTW I´m hungry. So I guess my stomach is not a source of a signal for the new page.

          • I’m hungry as well but I’m not leaving my seat until the page is up this time, since my stomach has decided that I’m really hungry just when a page is on the way xD
            Being away from the screen just when a comic is updating 5 times out of the last 7-8 campings in the last couple of weeks – too much of a coinsidence *lol*

          • Sapfo

            Then we on a hunger-strike until the page is up 😉

    • Danish!!! *hugs* We were getting worried!!

      • I’ve not been home all day yesterday, and just slept a few hours, so it’s about a day since I’ve been online.. or could be online *points to original comment*

    • Hi DW. Sorry about the computer issues! Wish I could help.

    • Adam Black

      Firefox aint much better.
      I cant keep a connection tonight

      • My firefox has been crashing a lot lately

        • Adam Black

          mine crashes all the time. but it saves the tabs so i dont care.

          the connection tho , is driving me insane

      • I can’t even open my IE. My computer made an update yesterday. Fear that did something because it was next time getting online after that – and the stupid browser is broken.

        First time I open it, and I quickly get a message saying there’s a script error, and then after that my tab keeps telling me there’s an error on the site and tries to re-open the window – just to tell me the same thing over and over again.
        I had minor issues with this in the last couple of days when I had more than two tabs open – the 3rd would do this a couple of times (also think this started after previous auto-update). Now it’s the main tab.
        So either the new IE updates doesn’t work with my type of IE, or something in my computer seriously doesn’t like the new updates, but i don’t know how to fix this.

        • I would call my sexy (lamentably happily married) friend, but I am pretty sure he is asleep…

        • Adam Black

          have you tried deleting ie and installing chrome?

        • Adam Black

          you might want ti try uninstalling every version you have on your computer of flash and java, and then installing the latest one.

          It sounds like a conflict between an older script engine and a newer one

          • I’ll try to figure out how to do that later. Thanks for advice. I really am a computer noob when it goes beyond ‘basic’ use.

          • Adam Black

            i havent even used internet explorer in 4 years. But that used to be a common problem.

          • I’ve never had issues like this before, and my previous experience with Chrome wasn’t the best so rather not get that again.

        • Adam Black

          you could go back intime and undue the update, to a previous restore point.

          • Hey, just letting you know I got it to work. Checking around some, and I finally found where to see your latest updates (took me way longer than it should have). Turns out my computer upgraded to IE 11 yesterday and removing that update, it now works again.
            Now I have to restall the other things I tried removing, but at least I know for sure now that my flash, java and adobe was already up to date xD

        • Adam Black

          you could go back intime and undue the update, to a previous restore point.

          • I tried that. Was told request was invalid after it had been trying for a while.

          • Adam Black

            Its just I.e.
            It isnt your whole computer, right?

            i actually have software for fixing microsoft windows installations but it seem s like overkill so far.

            there is a good chance it was an adopbe update of some kind. they are notorious about breaking autoupdates and breaking importnat drivers. and not uninstalling the old versions.

            doing a search for every old version of flash and java, then deleting them, then reintalling them is a wise idea, just for security purposes.

          • Yeah, it’s just IE. Firefox works fine. I’ll try looking for new updates to Adobe, Flash and Java. Hope it helps to reinstall these.

            Hmm.. now you mentioned Adobe. There was an update for this some days ago. I can’t remember if I did it or clicked it away, wanting to wait because I was doing other stuff. I’ll try with adobe first and then the other two if not working.

  • Sometimes when my page takes longer to load, I get hopeful that there has been an update.
    There has not. But sometimes…

  • Page is now in the oven, baking away. Mmmmmmm….

    • rgleon9986

      Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

    • You are such a tease!

    • See, Sapfo *points to Alex’ comment.

      My stomach is now confusing my inner comic-radar with hunger.
      A page is on the way and I get really hungry >.>

      • Sapfo

        You might be right. But your stomach should not suffer. You go and make something to eat…..

      • Ellen Harman

        Don’t fall for it Danish Sapfo after the virgin.

        • I know, I’m not listening to her. She’s tricksy, she is. Trying to steal my precious.

  • Obsessively refreshing Alex’s Twitter feed right now. So if the page is still be kneaded, does that mean I can relax for a bit? Should I start abusing that F5 button when Alex pops that bad boy into the oven?

    Questions, questions.

  • Tina

    Phew, that was a close one. I was so hoping for a new page today. Work and life’s been stressing me out.

  • Xalun K

    I’m gonna miss the update, but I thought I’d stop in and say hi before I pass out. Hi. 🙂

  • WarGoddess

    So…I just finished crocheting a Doctor Who Tardis hat for my friend Traci, and although it is not perfect (my first ever hat), it looks great to me! The windows are a bit crooked, though, and I have no idea how they ended up that way. It has the ear flaps with dangling pom pom-ended tassels and a nice white pom pom on top for the light. Says “police box” in all caps on a black stripe around the top. I’m pretty proud of myself, I must say! It’s gonna be an early Christmas gift for her since I want her to wear it when we go to see the Day of the Doctor. 😀

    • Cool!

      • WarGoddess

        Hopefully tomorrow I can go over to my friend Traci’s and upload a pic on my DA page. I’m too poor for wifi of my own right now, and my phone is a complete and utter nimrod. (;o;)

        • Look forward to whenever you get to it!

          • WarGoddess

            Yay! I look forward to showing it to everyone! 😀

    • Yay! Picture?

      Sounds very cooool!

      • WarGoddess

        Well, at the moment I am only able to use my cellphone for this, and for some ungodly reason my phone will not let me upload pictures anywhere. So therefore I have to put them on my computer, then get wifi somewhere and upload them on my DA page. I’m too poor for wifi of my own. (;o;)

        • We’ll be happy to see when you’re ready to show it to us!

          • WarGoddess

            Yay! I’m happy that I have supporters! 😀

    • Adam Black

      I got tickets for FRIDAY!!!

      • DAMN! They were all sold out when I tried. Seeing it on Monday. *pouts*

        • Adam Black

          I didnt buy it.

          I half expect my treater to bail

          • Well, I hope it doesn’t.

          • Adam Black

            we will see

      • WarGoddess

        We weren’t able to do Friday, ’cause the nearest showing on Friday is in Chicago, and it’s too far away from us. That’s why. We’re going on Monday to Davenport. (Plus, no one who lives outside Chicago likes Chicago where I live, lol. 😀

        • Adam Black

          damn…
          at least you are going…

    • rgleon9986

      I’m so freaking excited. I’m going to see it on Monday. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Three doctors! Also, did you see “Night of the Doctor,” which shows us the 8th Doctor (McGann) regenerating into John Hurt?

      • I have! That was pretty cool The mini-sode that is

      • WarGoddess

        I actually haven’t, but I’m sure Traci will show me. It’s inevitable. 😀

        • rgleon9986

          You should go find it, it’s on Youtube, and it’s all sorts of awesome. 😀

  • I am making him WAIT. BF can wait while this page bakes.

    See what you’re doing, Alex? You are clearly taking control of my freewill and twisting it to your whim. 😛 jk

  • Sapfo

    And now Life of Brian have ended!
    Kyle, always look at the bright side of life!?
    Your lover might have sold out the world to a demon, but you meet your father.

    • Damn. Think I’m out of the hunt today. This browser isn’t the best suited for it *now hopes for good old luck*

      • Sapfo

        Well I had luck when my internet was having a bad day. So, break a leg?

  • Oh…he’s getting a little impatient. He doesn’t understand TYP. Should I make him read it?

    • I think you should!

      • Well, he already knows I like yaoi. So there we go. Why not

    • Guest

      Well, he already knows I like yaoi. So there we go. Why not.

      • This isn’t the most yaoi of comics. Tell him it has action scenes and bad guys ..oh and superheroes 😉

        • Very true!!

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          The last 25 pages or so have been naked Duncan, naked Kyle, and naked Laampros being naked together. That’s pretty yaoi. Sure, we don’t get to see the “money shot”, but that’s pretty yaoi.

          • Shhh.. It’s an action scene. Juuust an action scenes with plot .. and such. We’re trying to get the BF to read this, remember!

          • Plenty of…action. Tumbling (kissing), flying (touching), fighting (naked), fist-fights (undressing), and lasers (frotting)!!!!!!

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Like the movie 300? No homoerotic subtext at all?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwTg_iDkzR0

          • Mmmm. 300. I need to watch that again.

      • Why did my comment move… I am so confused right now.

        • Sapfo

          Did you reload the page? It happens sometimes.

  • WarGoddess

    Oh…I also wanna say that there should be a surprise from me on the next page…Alex said he would post it…. 😉

    • Now I’m really on the edge of my seat!

      • WarGoddess

        It’s meant purely for comic relief, so I hope everyone enjoys it. 😀

    • *LOL*.. oh good goddess.. I just went to look at the Fan Art..

      I’m now giggling like a little girl xD

      Oh.. and bonus. I clicked on the image to zoom in, and what I got on my screen from that was Duncan’s .. attributes below the waist 😛

      • WarGoddess

        Hooray for attributes below the waist! 😀

        • At least I have a good excuse for being distracted from my virgin hunt. I was ogling your art.

    • silibub

      That’s hilarious for all the obvious reasons, but Kyle’s shirt is my favorite detail!

      • WarGoddess

        I’m so glad you noticed the shirt design! I thought it would be perfect for him, and I even covered it up a little bit so there wouldn’t be any copyright infringement! XD

    • Feverfew_M

      Brilliant! Giggling so hard, here! XD

      • WarGoddess

        I almost died myself while drawing it. XD

  • Page is up.. Goddess’ fanart completely distracted me with a close-up of Duncan 😉

  • that isn’t particularly comforting, Duncan. a little late now…

  • Ryn

    so this is what a supervillain midlife crisis looks like.

  • OnyxLight

    The perspective of that last panel… LOVE

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  • Far ‘better’? DERP! understatement of the year 😛