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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 46

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  • Sapfo

    Daddy is that YOU?

    • Holly

      YOU DON’T GET ME

      • Sapfo

        Do that mean I can get Danish this time instead?

        • Holly

          yes! she is your prize

          • o_o So now I’M the prize.. at least now I can eat. I’ve been running to and from the computer for the last 5mins, because my food just finished.

          • Sapfo

            Jupp, your mine! ^_^
            I know the feeling of running. Eat well.

            (And my internet do not like me at all. Even if I did get the virgin.)

    • DAMNIT! Seriously, I thought I had it. No comments but mine until I refreshed. My computer is going slow on me LOL

  • Aand they’re back.. drama will unfold.

    • I am so waiting on the edge of my seat for this drama. It will be AMAZING. I will be so uncomfortable sitting like this until Tuesday.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Yes, but… *which* drama?

      Is it (as suggested above by Jakk) that Kyle rushes back to the Young Protectors and alerts them? An alert that will eventually bring up how Anni managed to capture him using seduction (hmm, something that’s going to happen at some point, sooner-or-later, methinks).

      Or will it involve Kyle trying to argue with Anni to renege on the deal with Laampros by appealing to Anni’s (purportedly non-existent) better nature?

      Or will it involve Kyle pretending that he has gone over to Laampros’ side, thereby trying to trick Anni into freeing him from the chains, and then trying to subdue or kill Anni before the villain can activate the second key?

      So many possibilities…

  • Holly

    DMN IT

  • mogoskier

    That was a little anti-clamtic and for some reason filled my heart with dread

    • Xalun K

      It only seems anti-climactic because the lead-in was so strong, but really… it’s just about perfect. “Do this thing or I’ll kill you. Go home.” That sends a pretty darn clear message. lol

      • Jamie Dutton

        Too bad he didn’t add “And unchain my son from that damn bed!”

        • Xalun K

          No kidding, but I’m not even sure he can. Those chains are forged by Kyle’s own fire, so it may just have to wear off.

        • Steven K.

          Ditto!

    • Steven K.

      Funny – made me feel the same way.

  • jreed3842

    I still wanna find out if Duncan knew about Kyle being Laampy’s son or not. I’m quite interested in his reaction!

    • Holly

      I REALLY do not think he did. I don’t think PP did either. Though it would be funny if PP had an inkling and just didn’t warn duncan.

      • silibub

        I figured Duncan knew Kyle was connected to demons somehow — he just might not have realized which demon.

        • Steven K.

          That could very well be.

      • Ali

        They had to have known that he was from that world at least, right?

        Also, am I the only one weirded out that I can see when other people are typing??

        • Holly

          DISQUS UPDATE! Naw it’s not weird. It’s like on IMing

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Even though we’ve seen so little of PP, I still feel like that’s something I could see her doing.

        • Holly

          PP: I’m sorry Duncan darling, I really didn’t know Red Hot was Laampros’ son.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            “Honestly, would I put you in that sort of an awkward position? Oh, who am I kidding, of course I would.”

    • It sounds like they did from their earlier conversation. But I’m surprised Duncan didn’t think there was a risk Laampy might be seriously pissed off that he harmed his son. Even though I’m sure Laampy isn’t the most empathic of all fathers, he could very well have a possessive streak.

      • Steven K.

        I’m tending to still think it’s possible he did not know, but I’d be interested to hear your rationale for the conviction that he did know.

    • Steven K.

      Definitely! And hopefully sooner than later.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Well they are back, and Duncan’s hand is glowing. But the warehouse exploded? How come it’s intact now?

    • Holly

      MAGIC

      • jreed3842

        Yeah… I’m not really questioning the logistics of the warehouse… especially since it’s a story where people have super powers and they just came from Hell… Lol.

    • They just exploded into the realm I guess.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Huh? But the entire warehouse exploded! There were even a couple of steel beams that got transported to hell with them.

        Just look at Page 34!

        • I dunno, that’s just how it seemed to me, that it was a sorta here and there thing going.

  • Tina

    Something tells me Duncan might want to run before those chains set Kyle free.

    Also didn’t Kyle’s orgasm blow up the warehouse?

    • Holly

      I think the explosion was the metaphysical ramifications of the spell and the portal opening. I don’t think it was actually harmed by the orgasm flames.

      • Steven K.

        Those points would seem to be the case.

      • toocoolforcapes

        Anytime you can use the term “orgasm flames” is a good day.

    • It sure as shit looked like it.

      OR it was an illusion??

      • Or sent back in time before he blew it up.

        Timey Wimey

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Yep, Page 34. The warehouse blew up.

      • Holly

        Okay So the warehouse exploding was really the walls between worlds being torn down so they could travel to the hell demension. The warehouse wasn’t actually harmed, it just looked like it exploded because the explosion of magic was transporting them.

        • I like this

        • Steven K.

          Yes – something like that – well, very nearly that if not precisely that.

        • joncarllewis

          I prefer that reading of it also.

    • Steven K.

      Well, his orgasm along with the first spell induced the initial inferno or “firestorm” out from and around Kyle, and while it was still going on and enhanced by that first spell, Duncan incanted another one, or a second part, that had the explosive and transportative effects – or so it seemed.

  • Holly

    Alright so in order of the last few pages.
    Kyle Burns Duncan.
    Laampy marks Ducan’s burnt arm with HIS mark.
    Laampy is all pride face and affection at Kyle
    Laampy tells Kyle he is his son.
    Laampy tells Ducan if he screws up he is dead.
    Laampy bounces
    Portal Closes.
    Kyle is STILL Chained to the bed.
    Ducan is looking at his burnt and MARKED arm.

    WHAT THE HECK?! We need it to be Wednesday!

    • I was half expecting Laampy to unchain Kyle.

      • Holly

        Well at least they are out of hell. Though I’m wondering WHEN the second key will be activated to open the door.

        • There is that and the unleashing of the Kyle-anator. He gonna be a bit mad methinks

          • Holly

            One could even say he will be red hot with rage?

          • Indeed!

          • Holly

            I want Kyle to go DARK! so badly

          • So what would his Dark name be?

          • mogoskier

            He is the prince of hell! He doesn’t need a dark name.

          • Holly

            Kyle is a HORRIBLE name for a Prince of Hell, though.

          • mogoskier

            That is true. Hmmm, dose he have a middle name that can be used

          • Cydney Sabin

            I think it’s kinda funny. All these kings and princes of evil and darkness and yada yada yada and they all have cool names like Diablo and Innoruuk… and then there’s Kyle.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Fear the otherworldy wrath of…KYLE!

          • Holly

            “The new names are so boring. Elzaphor, don’t you remember when demonic princes had proper names. Not all these Kyles and Stephens we have now.”
            “Yes Welroth, I remember quite well.”

          • Sure he does. I think Holly is right. Kyle’s not the name of a Prince in Hell. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            Red Hot?
            The flamer?
            HellHathAFury?
            MelGibson?

          • HA! MelGibson. Funny.

          • How are you feeling today, Mr. Black? I hope better.

          • Adam Black

            mostly alive

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Which parts?

          • That’s better than mostly dead.

          • There should be a Miracle Max scale. He only gives us these two/three states, I wonder what the others would be?

            All Dead
            Mostly Dead/Slightly Alive
            (Mostly Alive/Slightly Dead)?
            (All Alive)?

          • lol. Those work. Although Alive has two forms itself. I mean there’s:

            Well, I’m alive.
            I’M ALIVE!

          • Steven K.

            Elyk.

          • That could actually work.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Red Hot only in whatever native language Demons speak. Sort of like a Japanese person named Takahashi moving to an English speaking country and changing their name to “High Bridge”.

          • Good point.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            According to the baby name book “Kyle” is a Scottish topographical term referring to a narrow, a straight, or a channel, and is derived from the Gaelic word ‘caol’. Laampros should have gone with “Scirocco” or “Fiametto” when naming his hybrid demon spawn. The name “Kyle” really isn’t demonic enough for a Prince of Hell. Sheesh!

          • HA! No it isn’t. But it would be rather humorous as another pointed out.

            The big guy will probably insist on another name once he learns that his son’s name is Kyle. It’s possible that’s the tradition once they become a demon, they take another name, like the pope does.

            “You are a Prince of Hell, chose your new name, son.”
            “I like Kyle.”
            “The Prince of Hell will not be named Kyle!”
            “I like Kyle.”
            “Demon spawn these days. If I had talked to my sire so…”
            “I like Kyle.”
            “FINE! Be Kyle, but don’t come crying to me when the other demons make fun of you.”

          • Please, yes.

          • Holly! The puns! Why you do? lol

          • Steven K.

            I’m sure he already is – and has been for quite some time.

      • Half expecting. I wanted a bit more dialogue between Laampy and Kyle.

        • There is that too.

          “See you on the other side, son. Be bad until then.”
          *Kyle with a gaping mouth as father flies away*

          • “See you on the other side, son. Make me proud.”
            “GRHDJHSSIHGOUNROAPISJDKNBROU”
            “That’s my boy.”
            *flies off*

          • HA!

            Edit: “And remember,” Laampros looks over his shoulder, “No more superhero.”

          • “NO SON OF MINE WILL BE A HERO!”
            *said like stereotypical redneck*

            Kyle: T_T

          • Jamie Dutton

            But Daaaaaaad!
            *said with an adorable pouty face*

          • *Whines* But daaaaaaad, I dont WANNA be a bad guy!

        • Steven K.

          For sure.

      • Steven K.

        Yeah – was kinda hoping for something like that to happen. After what Laampros tells Kyle, and he way he behaves along with that, it seems so abrupt to then just a second later grab the key and fly off.

        • Unless of course, upon further thought, he had to leave Kyle changed because unchaining would have screwed up the spell and he might not have been able to grab the key. Or something like that.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        But he knows that if you do everything for your kids instead of letting them figure it out for themselves, they’ll never learn.

        Or he’s just a complete ass.

  • You can seeee him getting younger. The burn is slowly spreading and rejuvenating him.

    Or that is Kyle’s fire. >_>

    • silibub

      I think it’s the lighting! Laampros won’t follow through on his end of the deal until Duncan activates the second key.

    • Holly

      I agree with Sili, but YES young Ducan eventually! exciting!

      • Wants now. *throws child’s tantrum*
        Waaaant

        • Holly

          Kinzie everytime you pester you have to wait 15 more pages! (based on my dad’s rule about trips)

          • Oh my god. I know. 🙁

          • Holly

            *head pats*

          • *hugs* We are so abused/spoiled by this creator.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I don’t think Duncan will get what he wants until Laampros is on this side. He said as much.

      • Well, yes. And two other people have said so. 🙂 No need to keep goin with it.

  • silibub

    Duncan: “…That went well.”

    • Holly

      “Did that go to plan? O_o”

      • mogoskier

        It went as well as a trip to hell to make a deal with satan and accidentally using satan kid to get there could possibly go.

        • Steven K.

          Exactly.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Not sure. Duncan needs to activate the second Key to bring in Laampros.

      • silibub

        “You know, maybe it’s just me, but I get the feeling Laampros didn’t like me much. Not sure why…just this sense I have.”

    • Steven K.

      All-in-all, for him, it rather did. Esp. if he’s not surprised at the revelation concerning Kyle and Laampros.

  • Sapfo

    Chris: 1 or 2 pages, then Kyle will be free. I see it in my crystal ball!

    Now I quit, my internet does not like me today. Bye!

    • Holly

      Gets the Virgin and then quits. LIKE A BOSS

  • At some point Duncan is having to free Kyle from those chains.. that is a moment I’m waiting for. Don’t think it’s gonna be pretty o_o

    • silibub

      “The spell should wear off in…” Duncan checks his nonexistent watch, “…eventually. It’ll wear off eventually. Uh. Bye!”

      • Maria White

        *Kyle breaks free*

        *burns down warehouse*

        *burns down half the forest*

        Kyle: I’m going to kill you Duncan.

        *duncan in the safety of the air with a helicopter*
        Duncan: Damn, he’s cute when he’s angry.

        • Steven K.

          At least something in that direction.

    • I want to see him get free.
      I love him and Anni together but at the same time I want to see them fight. >_< Conflicted FEEEEEEELINGS!

      • Steven K.

        I know. Tell me about it.

      • Well, they do say make-up sex is the best

        • Steven K.

          I don’t think Kyle is going to let Duncan even NEAR his naked body for the indefinite future.

        • I have never had make-up sex, but I have heard this as well.

          • Yeah, never had make-up sex either. Would love to have it sometime. Never had a bad enough fight for it.

  • Laampy: I am your father
    Kyle: O_O :'(
    Laampy: You will be a prince in hell
    Kyle: TT_TT I don’t wanna be your son
    Laampy: Later bitches

    Anni: MY FUCKIN ARM

    • Holly

      Your spark notes are shorter than mine. hehe

    • Saxon_Brenton

      I have a picture in my head of Kyle – having been invested as a prince of hell – having grown horns just like Kaampy’s, and has just used an angle grinder to cut them off. Caption: ‘Kyle couldn’t stop Laampros from investing him as a prince of hell. But Laampros couldn’t stop Kyle from being inspired by Hellboy to renounce the position.’

    • Cydney Sabin

      Am I the only one seeing a twist on the famous “Luke, I am your father” scene here?

      • xLizardx

        Nope – Alex in fact quoted it himself in his comments under the previous page 😀 “That’s not true… that’s impossible!” Best quote-timing ever.

      • Not at all lol. I will forever make Star Wars references now.

        From the good movies.

        Not the new ones. >_>
        <_<

        Except the Nooooooo button. Its important.

        • Cydney Sabin

          So important, I have it on my phone. ^_^

  • dereule101

    Damn fly-by-night fathers! Deadbeat demon!

    “So…we could trade origin stories.”

    • Holly

      I don’t think Kyle fully understands his yet. LOL

      AND LAAMPY IS NOT A DEADBEAT!!!!

  • Syncx

    Nooooo!! Anne u b*tch you’ve just let satan lose on earth , on another note I can’t helps tearing at satans crotch :-c

    • Steven K.

      Well, he hasn’t quite yet – he still needs to keep to his part of the bargain.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Duncan can’t let Kyle go. He will alert the rest of the team who will try and stop the plan. So I don’t see how Duncan can let him go.

    • Holly

      I don’t think Big Papa Red will like his lil red hot being tied up….

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Big Red is on the other side and can’t come in until Duncan activates “Cathy”. So Kyle will have to be restrained so that he won’t warn his teammates.

        • Holly

          When did we name the key Cathy?

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Dunno, some time ago someone did.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Shoot, I can’t remember who named the keys. It might have been WarriorNun, but I know the one Laampuru-kun has now is Clave and the one here is Cathy.
            Oh and apparently George Finnegan has a thing for Clave!

          • Steven K.

            I’m still trying to figure out how the rather odd name of “clave” was devised for the first key.

          • SofiaT

            From Latin I would assume. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            Ah – as in clavis. I’m so used to thinking of that as derivation from “cleave” – as in “they clave/clove to one-another”.

          • SofiaT

            Clava? I don’t know, I only did Latin for 2 years and I was half-asleep at class most of the time. Not my favourite subject.

      • Steven K.

        Well, he didn’t seem to mind it before – it’s not like he released him. That’s something else or another possibility that I was hoping for – that Laampros might actually release Kyle or help him out in some way. He tells Kyle there is no need to cry, etc., etc., but then he does nothing about Kyle’s predicament – he just says what he says to Kyle and suddenly we’re all back – just leaves me a little empty – and now Kyle is back in the earth-realm, still bound and vulnerable, and at the mercy of Duncan once more without even Laampros to protect him.

    • Klaus

      But what will it take to activate the key? A quick phone call to PP, a few minutes to complete a well prepared ritual? Or gathering several hard to get sacrificial victims and waiting for an auspicious time that comes only rarely?

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        All very good questions! I have no idea. 🙁

      • Jamie Dutton

        Lol, that reminded me of an old movie where one of the characters was playing a scavenger hunt of some kind.
        All he needed was to find a one-legged nun walking a goat and he’d win!

    • Steven K.

      Well, kinda why I was hoping for some kind of escape from Kyle before getting back.

  • Jamie Dutton

    Fare thee well, Clave!
    So Duncan’s arm didn’t heal yet, right? Does that mean my theory was right? That makes me giddy!
    Btw, I hope I’m not the only one that really enjoys seeing the work-in-progress pages. Oh and I am enjoying the full-frontal there in panel 1, as well!

    • Holly

      I’m guessing the Mark is probably going to remain as a scare, or unhealing wound. THe burn I’m not so sure on. but it would be nice if he had both.

  • Holly

    I HAVE NOT GEORGE FINNEGAN TO STARE AT!!!!! *DEPRESSION*

  • Xalun K

    Kyle looks less confused/distraught and more pissed off now. Man oh man, I hope he uses his newfound knowledge to kick the crap out of Duncan for being such a MORON.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I don’t think there much Duncan can do now. He belongs to Laampros. If he fails, as Laampros said, he will kill him. Duncan has to activate the other Key and bring Laampros in. He can’t let Kyle stop him.

      • Xalun K

        Oh, I didn’t say kill him, just maim him a little. I doubt he *can* kill him, honestly. Just… rough him up.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Yeah, I’m one hundred percent with you on that one!

        • Steven K.

          Gosh I hope so.

  • Becky

    Still on the floor, Duncan? WUUUUUUUUSS.
    Kick his ass, Kyle.

    • Holly

      Kyle: *mutely glares trying to convey the fact it he is still CHAINED TO A BED*

      • Becky

        Yeah but, he also was supposed to be unable to talk, so… I haven’t yet ruled out Dramatic Escape and Asskicking. 🙂

        • Steven K.

          If we don’t get at least a little more kathartic action, with Kyle getting to release some of that pent-up fear and loathing and fury, etc., things won’t seem right to me.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I’m sure there will be a lot talk, don’t think there will be a lot of action thought. Kyle is not strong enough to beat the shit out of Duncan and I don’t think he will try to burn him, if he can burn him.

        • Holly

          OH OF COURSE!

          No I’m waiting for that too. I’m just wondering if he can free himself BEFORE Duncan escapes.

  • mogoskier

    GUYS, I just realized that when Lammpy was berating Ducan about touching Kyle, he was actually saying “Bitch were you not just having sex with my son but not 5 minutes ago. Do not tell me a can’t act affectionate with my own child”. I have no Idea why this idea took me three days

    • Hmm so pleasure brought you here? *Creeper smile* Fear will help you leave.

    • Steven K.

      Interesting analysis/interpretation.

  • december

    Being back in the room as if nothing happened, to me, is even creepier than if they had been left in hell to figure their own way out. And where is Lampu? Does world dominion begin immediately? Where will he start? In what country, even?

    • Holly

      I totally agree. I wonder if time has even PASSED in the mortal realm.

      Also, Duncan needs to activate his key first.

    • Jamie Dutton

      I think the circle is jsut a portal into Laampuru-kun’s realm. He can’t enter our world until Duncan activates Kathy, um I mean the other key here.

    • Steven K.

      I find myself oddly feeling the same way you mention in your first sentence.

  • Anyone still interested in Truth or Dare, I posted a link to a chatroom on the previous page!!!

  • Xalun K

    Ok y’all ‘truth or dare’ people… I now have friends commenting about my ‘tomance’. Thanks. 😛

  • Adam Black

    Bent-Com sounds awesome

    ( I decided to personally adopt bent as a ID lable last year. I am liking that bent-com is equally gayfriendly, geekculture and scifi )

  • Holly

    Okay so I am dead tired, and the page was up MUCH later than usual. So I am going to hit the hay. I will try replying more come morning. NIGHT ALL

    • Xalun K

      NIGHT, see you um… tomorrow probably, haha.

    • Night Holly!

    • Adam Black

      bye @disqus_5yYGRkSeuL:disqus

    • Gnight Holly!

  • vessto

    That’s how a real BOSS should act – gives his order and disappears. Kyle is angry but I’m sure the more troubled one is Anni. I can’t wait for the moment when Anni will free Kyle (aka The Hell Prince). He should be sure he’s on a safety distance because the first Kyle would give him is a proper punch.:D

    • Steven K.

      Why would Anni necessarily be troubled? He keeps Kyle bound a bit more, opens the “door” on this other side, and then he gets everything he wanted.

      • vessto

        Somehow after the contract with Mr.L he should be in touch with the Prince Of Hell too. And that Prince is impatient to kick his ass.;)

  • Xalun K

    I don’t know why I JUST NOW got this, but I’ve JUST realized… The spell didn’t take them to Laampros, it brought Laampros to them. That’s why everything is still as it was, because Laampros was summoned there, so nothing *actually* blew up. Woah.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Good one! 😀

      • Xalun K

        Thank you! I was staring at the strip, thinking about how Laampros is flying away, and it struck me that the farther away he gets, the farther the illusion of Hell gets also.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          I’m quite happy with your idea. It makes sense to me. Nothing else did.

    • That is a realization of great truth.

    • SofiaT

      I’m thinking it’s more of a portal between worlds opening. Or a veil being lifted temporarily.

      In His Dark Materials trilogy, there are countless universes, all touching each other but at the same time invisible and impenetrable -at least until a weapon is created, The Subtle Knife, that can cut between worlds.

      So Laampros didn’t travel I think, and neither did they -not through space anyway.

      • Xalun K

        I’m familiar with His Dark Materials, read them a few times. Your theory does make a degree of sense – the spell sort of collapsed the planes against each other. *nods*

        • SofiaT

          Exactly! Remember in the first book, when we didn’t yet know about the existence of the Subtle Knife? Lord Asriel had to seperate Roger from his daemon, killing him in the process, so he could use the huge amount of energy that would be released during the seperation to create a “bridge” between worlds.

          This spell and the way Kyle’s powers were harnessed has been reminding me of that for some time now.

          • Xalun K

            Although fortunately, Kyle didn’t have to die to make the bridge. o_O lol

          • SofiaT

            Phew! Thank The Force for it!

            And that was the one part that always bugged me about Lord Asriel. He is later revealed to be one of the good guys and he is one of the most fascinating characters in the book -but I never forgave him Roger’s death.

            I like Duncan, if he killed Kyle I’d have to reconsider 😛

          • Xalun K

            I liked Duncan all the way up to the deal with Laampros, even through the betrayal of Kyle. But as soon as he said, ‘YOUTH, POWER, DICTATORSHIP’ I was like, ‘Nope, fuck that, I’m done with him. He can eat a bag of dicks.’

            He didn’t kill Kyle, but how many other people will die if the deal with Laampros is actually finalized?

          • SofiaT

            I’ll refrain from commenting on that till I see what happens next.

            His requests did strike me as incredibly idiotic (and very disappointing) but I never took Duncan for an idiot.

            So… we wait and see. 🙂

          • Xalun K

            I did say “if”!! 😀 😀

          • SofiaT

            Noted 😉

            My problem isn’t with outcomes, it’s with intentions.

            If I realise that Duncan’s plan didn’t include some way of screwing Laampros and he really did intend to let the world in the mercy of a demon, I’ll be pissed. Whether the world is saved or not is besides the point, the asshole almost killed/enslaved some billion people.

            If, on the other hand, he was always planning on screwing Laampros, and his reasons ran deaper than the cliche immortality request, then I can still like him. Even if his plan is busted and the world saved by Kyle because he screwed up. It’s the intentions that matter.

          • Xalun K

            I’m not entirely certain there’s any deeper meaning or intention behind his request, especially being partnered with someone (Sircea). I think in this case, what you see is what you get – Obviously they’re willing to push and manipulate whomever they can to obtain their desired outcome (Duncan and Sircea), so why not get a demon involved? As long as their little corner of the world is untouched, who are they to care, really?

          • SofiaT

            Beats me! Which is why I’m now just waiting to see what happens next 🙂

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Duncan is cunning but cunning is not the same as intelligent. Some people have both. I’m thinking Duncan does not.

          • Steven K.

            Hmmmm…remember that, for some of us, the idea of “eating a bag of dicks” (figuratively speaking, rather than literally a bag of disembodied phalluses – i.e., perhaps in a collection all standing around or in a long row, and “eating” in the standard sexual rather than cannibalistic sense) – would actually be more of a really incredible and totally hot fantasy than anything negative.

          • Xalun K

            I…. Okay, I’m all for circle jerks and daisy chains and orgies and whatnot, really, because I’m a huge fan of gay sex in all its forms, but I actually meant a literal bag of disembodied penises. Bag of dicks. Gross kind.

          • Steven K.

            Ok – lol – then I guess I’ll pass. Very uncomfortable notion that there would be such a thing though, unless they are faux – as in various sex-toys.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            No one can forgive Asriel after reading His Dark Materials because Good Guys don’t murder children (or anyone)!

          • I cried soo hard when that happened. I was really hoping she would be able to stop her father.

          • Steven K.

            Who stopping whose father?

          • SofiaT

            Lyra, the protagonist of that book series, stopping her father, Lord Asriel, from killing her friend Roger.

            Asriel needed the energy that Roger’s death would unlease to travel between worlds so he could fight The Authority and bring balance back in the multiverses. A noble cause, but a shitty way to go about it.

  • Ellen Harman

    Duncan better clear out quick, as soon as the spell wears off Kyle’s going to attack. And Kyle has already proved that he can burn Duncan.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Unless Duncan has to say something to deactivate the spell?

      • Steven K.

        It would be logical if he does have to, but I hope he doesn’t have to.

    • So excited for a fight!

    • Ali

      Unless Kyle’s powers are amplified and/or Duncan’s powers are weakened when Laampros is around.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        It kind of depends on whether the increase/decrease in their relative power levels was situational or inherent. Assuming Laampy was telling the truth about Kyle’s parentage, then:
        * Situationally, Kyle could be more powerful in the hell dimension because he’s (part) demon, and/or Anni could be weaker in the hell dimension because he’s human.
        * Inherently, Kyle could always have been that powerful, but because of his psychological limitations about harming people after he burned his foster sister this would be the first time he’s been angry and/or desperate enough to use his full power.
        Indeed, it could be that originally it was situational, but Laampros may have begun investing him with more power as a prince of hell with that kiss (just to see what Kyle would do with it) so now he’s had an inherent power boost.
        But, yeah, either way, Anni has lost control of the situation to some extent or another, and I’m guessing he would be wary of releasing Kyle because the outcome of another fight between the two of them might not be to his liking.

        • dereule101

          Good point about the psychological limitations…I hope that’s the case!

        • Ali

          I originally thought that Kyle was stronger when in the Hell dimension, but it looks like they maybe weren’t there technically speaking? I like your idea that Kyle has been holding back this whole time, though.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Not to mention that if he releases Kyle, Kyle will alert everyone to Duncan’s plan. I don’t see how he and Sircea can let him go until the bargain is completed.

          • They might not have a choice. Kyle could break free again and this time for real.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            If he does, then every superhero is going to come for PP and Duncan, assuming that they can find them. If Duncan fails to complete the bargain, Laampros will kill him as he said on panel 1.

          • I guess we need to wait till Wed. to see what comes next.

            But if Kyle does escape, we don’t know where this mountain is. It might take him a while to find home, or a phone to call home. Unless his temper causes wings to sprout and well, he can be his own ride home.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            They could cast another spell and make him forget the whole thing, perhaps? I guess anything is possible.

          • Anything is, but I don’t think they would do that, because then what would be the point really?

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            True that, but at the same time I can’t see them letting him go until they get to activate the other Key. We’ll still have to wait to see what happens. 😀

          • Is it Wednesday yet? 😀

          • Cydney Sabin

            I don’t think he’d need wings. My guess is he’d fly by heating the air beneath him/turbo jets from his hands like the big superheroes Human Torch, Fire, or Firestar.

          • That’s a good point! I wonder if Kyle knows anything about thermal dynamics. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            The wings would be kinda nifty. Or is Kyle like the Human Torch, and the ability to zip and zoom around in the air is part of his abilities.

          • And convenient too!

          • Steven K.

            Unless Kyle, for some as-yet-implausible reason intervenes.

          • Steven K.

            I am sooooooo ready for Kyle to be out of those magic chains. That was another frustration – they are bck and Kyle is still bound – it really pulls at my emotions.

        • Steven K.

          Really good points and summary of possibilities regarding that particular issue!

    • dereule101

      He might not be able to in this dimension 🙁

      • Steven K.

        Yeah – that’s one thing I’m afraid of.

    • Steven K.

      I hope Kyle will get at least some major degree of response time – questions, insults, swearing, rage, attacks, etc., etc. That little arm injury of Duncan’s isn’t nearly enough to address what has just happened and what he’s put Kyle through.

  • Sapfo

    George! Nooooooo! DONT LEAVE US!
    You need too save Clave! Laampros have him ;_;

    • Jamie Dutton

      I think Clave will be ok for now, even in Laampuuru-kun’s gigantic hands. He needs to keep Clave safe to open the doors or whatever.

      • Sapfo

        And George? Is he going on a never ending quest too save his key?

        • Jamie Dutton

          George might need to find some help, if he decides to go to Clave’s rescue. Hard to save someone without hands.

          • Sapfo

            That is why it is a never ending quest 😉

  • Alright, guys. I will be back on later. I am at Kikori Con this weekend working guests and have an early morning, so I gotta go to bed.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Later, Kinzie! Have fun at the Con 🙂

    • Night! And have fun.

      • I shall try. It is going to be a hectic weekend but should be fun.

  • Duncan’s got a lot of explaining to do. And possibly not just to Kyle.

    Of course, Sircea’s also probably got a lot of explaining to do, if Duncan didn’t actually know about the filial relationship.

    And I’m still wondering exactly how much Laampros already knew about Duncan and Sircea’s plan, since he clearly already knew about Sircea.

    • Xalun K

      I sort of doubt Duncan is going to explain any more to Kyle than he already has, but he’s probably going to be asking a lot of questions.

  • Steven K.

    Gee – I was hoping for a bit more of SOMETHING before they got back.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Like what?

      • xLizardx

        Probably Laampros… if you know what I mean 🙂 *waggles eyebrows*

        • Steven K.

          No.

      • Steven K.

        Hmmm – maybe a bit more confrontation, reactions from Duncan to things Laampros says or to Kyle – what Kyle is or more reaction to what Kyle did to him or how, reactions of Kyle to what Laampros just told him, maybe some questions if he could now speak, etc. – I don’t know for sure – just seems a bit abrupt that they are back, and not sure how all of these MAJOR reactions/questions can be shown all at once, on top of more of just Kyle’s general reactions toward Duncan regarding all of what just happened, from Betrayal and spell, to winding up in Hell, to his plans to facilitate Laampros getting into this world. Then Kyles feelings about the statements Laampros made – any one of these things is actually rather huge plot-wise, and suddenly they are back and I’m not sure how they will all be efficiently tackled or dealt with.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Duncan seems to be in shock to say anything. He’s still clutching his badly burnt arm.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Steven, all that will probably happen now that they are back and have the time to chat. We still don’t know if Kyle was able to speak after he was pulled back by the chains and restrained again.
          Events were moving too fast after he burned Duncan, there was no time to start a chat.

          • Steven K.

            Ummm…well, yes – I KNOW that – that is obvious, but the point being that the story could have proceeded in a way where there had been time allotted for some of that to happen earlier in the span of time before they were sent back – that time frame could have been expanded if the author had wished – so it’s more a comment on storyline pacing, rather than what could or could not have happened AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN”.

  • *lol* So much for paternal sentiment…

    Oh my darling boy, don’t spend time lying chained to the ground and cry. I just named you my prince of hell. Okay. No need to thank me, bye now.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      At least he remembered his birthday this year.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        If the arm does not heal, Duncan will be remembering Kyle’s birthday every year!

        • Maria White

          And every day.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Yes, hopefully it won’t heal properly and he will be reminded every single day.

  • Xalun K

    Yurk, bedtime for me now. Off to sleep, to dream a dream of demons and fire and gorgeous young redheads chained to beds. Behave yourselves, kiddies! (And if you can’t behave, at least enjoy!)

  • Megan Staples

    Oooooh, my. Duncan better start running, ’cause Kyle can burn him now, “immortal” or not. BURN him, Kyle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Well, maybe not… Burns are horribly painful. Fire is too fast…

  • I guess all the rose petals are gone.

    • Wasn’t it petunias? Or am I remembering this wrong?

      • Klaus

        As I understood it, the petunias were in Hong Kong.

        • Oh yeah, it’s probably rose petals. Kyle’s comment about not seeing petunias the same way again was in context to their first date.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Aren’t we just ending THAT first date…? I suspect it’s a last date also.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            No, the first date was Hong Kong.

          • Hmm, depends on how you define date I guess. I see their dinner in Hong Kong as a date, their first, and this just finished one as a 2nd date.

            First date ending with Kyle being naked while being shot at should really have been a forshading for him to not trying again, huh? The poor flowers fall victim every time 😉

      • I believe it was roses. I bet it smells awful in that warehouse now.

    • Cydney Sabin

      This made me laugh waaay harder than it probably should have.

  • Megan Staples

    You know what Robert Frost said:

    Some say the world will end in fire,
    Some say in ice.
    From what I’ve tasted of desire
    I hold with those who favor fire.
    But if it had to perish twice,
    I think I know enough of hate
    To say that for destruction ice
    Is also great
    And would suffice.

    • SofiaT

      That’s one of my favourite poems -and the only English poem I can recite by heart. 😀

      PS: I thought it was “…but if it was to perish twice…”?

      • stickfigurefairytales

        No, it was “had to.”

        • SofiaT

          Then my reciting it by heart was incorrect.

          Damn. I was really proud about that one 😀

          • stickfigurefairytales

            That’s okay! Now you know, anyway.

      • Megan Staples

        The poem IN English that you memorized? Frost was born in San Francisco, not England…
        I’ve seen printings of it with either/or those two lines. I think a lot of people have probably gotten it wrong, or mixed the two together. LOL Each line has eight syllables, so there’s no change in the rhythm or the meter…
        Eh, poetry is just confusing.

        • SofiaT

          Right, the only poem in English. I knew there was some problem with the wording then but couldn’t exactly figure it out 😀

    • stickfigurefairytales

      You know what else Robert Frost said?

      “Fuck you, Duncan.”

      • SofiaT

        I want to put that on my wall. 😀
        “Fuck you, Duncan.
        -Robert Frost”

  • Klaus

    We know that Kyle is going to be one of the most powerful champions the world has seen. This raises the question: champion of what?

    • Saxon_Brenton

      *blinks in astonishment* Oh my goodness. That’s a very good point. I should have thought of that angle myself.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Keeping his world safe? Maybe start by preventing a demonic invasion? Or if he can’t prevent it, then fighting to get rid of it?

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Buuuuuutttt Jakk… they’re family now. That would be mean… you know… keeping out cousins and stuff. 😀

  • Hey Sapfo.. you here? Well I just got another virgin 😉
    One of the two pages that has just been uploaded on Starfighter.

    • and those two pages……omg…..worth the wait….daaaang…..*fanning self*

    • Sapfo

      My internet really sucks right now.
      But i am happy for you ^_^
      …did i not win you this morning? Do not that mean that this virgin is mine too? Muahaha!

  • Toby

    Just started reading this comic, like the feel and quality. As a gay novelist myself, I really enjoy reading others’ works, and Alex this is a good story! There’s a donation coming your way, and a reader that is hooked. I live way up in northern Canada and reading really helps pass the cold winter haha. I did want to ask a pointed question as to the thought process of scenery censors. I find myself thinking, “it is interesting that whilst some scenes show partial nudity, others where full nudity could be present (In a completely complimentary un-sexual way) are not.” Just wondering as to the thoughts behind that. While I can only state my opinion, I would say that the human body is a beautiful work of art–in all aspects, a lot of which can be viewed asexually. I think a few (not a lot) of nude scenes, especially in the more raw and outwardly emotional would lend a lot to not only the visual story telling, but also the emotional one. As I said it’s just an opinion but would love to hear your thoughts.
    “It’s hard to come along for the ride, when you have to sit at the back with no view.”

    • I’m not Alex, and I’m sure he has something to say to this as well, but I can tell you that he has a poplicy about not showing anything explicit on page. He has said this:

      “I’m telling grown-up stories for other grown-ups—and that will include some erotic scenes—but this isn’t porn. In terms of MPAA movie ratings, some of it is “R” rated, a couple pages even “hard-R”, but not X. If you’re looking for that here, you’re going to be disappointed. But if you’re looking for an entertaining genre story for adults with strong characters and a compelling, thought-provoking plot, then I think you’re going to really enjoy Artifice and The Young Protectors.”

      Compairing TYP to his previous (and awesome) comic, Artifice, I’d actually say the nudity has actually been ‘upped’ now. Even between chapter 1 and 2 of TYP the scenes have become more ‘daring’ when it comes to almost showing explicit content (read: genitals on page).

      Alex has even gone as far as offered a ‘full monty’ option on a couple of the extra merch that the kickstarters, backing Vol. 1 when it was running a few months ago, will be given along with the comic. Still, nothing explicit on page.

      • SofiaT

        I think Toby was referring to the use of nudity as a form of artistic expression, in an asexual way, not as eye-candy. I assume that part of the FAQ section, which answers questions about sex and nudity, addresses people who come here looking for a “traditional” yaoi comic, a genre in which, in my understanding, sex is expected to be explicit and titillating.

        That’s why the full-monty that will be on the extra merch and has already been stated to be of the “tasteful” variety and not overly sexual, remains faithful to that policy -in my opinion- and isn’t an exception to the “this isn’t porn” rule.

        So the question Toby posted is one I’m actually looking forward to see answered by Alex as well 😀

        • I know. That’s how I read it too, but I think some of it could be explained by Alex’s policy and why he doesn’t show full genitals at all, even in a non-sexual way. For me explicit equal showing genitals, sexual situation or not. I like that Alex took the step to show full monty on some merch (still in a tasteful way), but had he not I wouldn’t have minded either. The merch option actually give the ‘liberty’ to go a little beyond how he show the body off as art on page.

          I’m looking forward to his answer as well.

          • SofiaT

            Oh, for certain! That was a good reply you gave and I’m sure Toby will find it useful. I’m just curious as well about the issue that Toby raised because I didn’t think the reply Alex gave at the FAQ section covered that aspect of it -and that’s even though I’m more than fine with the lack of explicit nudity/sex. I prefer it actually.

            It’s interesting, that line, when nudity stops adding to the art and starts detracting from it.

    • Hey Toby!

      Welcome! And thank you for the excellent question.

      There’s actually a lot of reasons why I’ve chosen to not show uncovered penises in this comic.

      The primary one is an aesthetic choice. A lot of it comes down to a question of tone. For the erotic scenes, I find it both more erotic and better serving the story I’m wanting to tell more to keep things “R-rated.” Sure I could show uncovered, erect weenies and flying fluids—and there are indeed some comics I’ve read that have moved me on both an emotional and sexual level that have done that—but for the kind of story I’d want to tell here, having X-rated explicitness doesn’t strike the right tone for me. I’d rather have the tone be “erotic” vs. “porn.”

      As for not showing full-frontal nudity in the non-sexual scenes, the aesthetic advantage there is both the opportunity for comedy (as other commenters have pointed out), a little playfulness with the readership (who the artists and I have noticed enjoy a unique variation of Where’s Waldo in the comments) or, when it’s a more dramatic moment, avoiding unnecessary upstaging of the dramatic action. If there was ever a non-sexual scene where showing unobscured, full-frontal felt like the best story-telling choice (vs. a “couldn’t hurt, I guess” choice which isn’t as compelling) then I might reconsider my policy, but by my lights as an author, there hasn’t been any scene so far in The Young Protectors that would be greatly improved in tone for the story I’m looking to tell by displaying a highly-rendered, bare phallus.

      So those are my aesthetic reasons and, because I am telling the kinds of stories I always wanted to see, they are the ultimate reasons I’m making that choice.

      But there are other, practical reasons.

      Right or wrong, full-frontal male nudity is considered unacceptable for many audiences in the U.S.. Even showing the content I’m currently showing makes me a borderline case for many advertisers. The time commitments in creating these comics have become more and more of a full-time job for me, edging out my ability to say yes to my day-job clients. If I’m going to ever be able to fully support myself creating these comics, online ads will play a large role in that. Having full-frontal nudity would remove me from consideration from most of the mainstream ad networks. At best I would have to use porn ad networks which, in addition to paying far less, would mean that the tone of the ads on the site would also be porn-y which I think sends the wrong message for what kind of stories are being told here.

      There are legal murky legal implications as well both in terms of what material I’m making available for minors to view and also, as I do have minor characters in this story, what I’m showing using underage characters. And even if I would ultimately prevail in a legal case in the U.S., there are other countries (like, say, Canada) that have even stricter laws re: this and I have to keep in mind the safety of my international readership.

      Both Adam and Vero work for major comic publishers and, fair or not, what they create here can have implications for what kind of work they get from the mainstream companies, particularly if they are considered for work on properties meant for the kids market. It’s not a casual request for me to ask them to render full-frontal nudity in a published book and so that factors into my thinking as well about pros vs. cons.

      Finally, while there are some readers whose experience might be enhanced by showing uncovered weenies, from interactions I’ve had online and off, there appear to be many who would not read this comic at all if it “went there.” The fact that it doesn’t go there makes the work accessible to them.

      By choosing not to show explicit, full-frontal nudity, I’m telling the story I want to tell with the tone I want, it means that I have access to more advertising possibilities (and payment options like PayPal), helps avoid sticky legal issues, helps avoid unnecessary hassles for my artists and finally, more people can and will view this comic online, without my having to use a 18+ paywall or some other legal barrier.

      While it might seem like a trivial choice, ultimately, it’s something I think any creator of a romantic work intended to be published on the Internet should think deeply about. Smart people can and do come to different conclusions, but this is the reasoning behind my policy. 🙂

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        That’s a very thorough and excellent explanation Alex, thank you.

        Yes, unfortunately here in the USA, you can show all the violence you want including people being torn apart, their heads blown off in slow motion, etc. And all that get’s an R rating. But show a dick and everyone falls to pieces.

        Some violent movies have inspired emotionally disturbed kids to commit crimes, what would showing a dick do? Inspire a disturbed kid to go around naked? Violence, even extreme violence in movies and games is now considered normal. It just boggles my mind at the screwed up priorities that we have.

      • Denise Cruz

        Although this answer wasn’t adressed to me, I must to say: ALWAYS a gentleman, Alex! 😀 Very nice!

      • I’m not going to lie, Alex, when I first started reading your work, I did wish that you had uncovered “weenies.” However, when I got more into your work and began to interact with other fans and when I began recommending your works to other people, I was grateful that they were covered artfully. I felt that if I saw a fully nude Kyle running through the streets, it would have taken away from the story. We know that Kyle and Duncan were having sex, we don’t need to see everything (would have loved to- didn’t need to). There are certain comics that I read online that I am unable to share with certain friends or share on Facebook because of content (though it is content I do enjoy). I cannot recommend Starfighter to a lot of people I know not only because of the sexual content but because of the nudity.

        While your comic has mild sexual content, it does not have enough nudity to be offensive. I understand the need for advertisers to expand your work as well as your own comfort level in what is shown but because of the reasons you listed, I am able to share this with family, more conservative friends as well as coworkers without fear of 1. judgement and 2. retribution. I have had people ask questions at conventions if I am doodling some fan art and have even had the chance to share this with the voice actors I watch over at the con today.

        • Thank you. That’s really good to know. 🙂

          • Of course 🙂
            My guest over the weekend was curious when I was doodling another Corgi Protector so I explained and he said he would visit the site and take a look. Maybe you’ll have a new fan.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Yes, he is in a very difficult position. But he heard the bargain. If he does nothing then his world is going to be invaded by demons. My guess is that since he is a superhero he will try to save lives no matter the cost to him.

  • Soubi

    HE CAN FLY?! Well…he’s naked, and flying, So there you go.

    • xLizardx

      OMG, I really hope Kyle learns how to. He could, if he’s Laampros’ son, maybe – and I always imagine flying to be so much fun [provided you had the secondary ability not to freeze to death, which, luckily, Kyle has in spades].

      • Soubi

        Can’t Kyle already fly? Although the naked thing must be inconvenient when there’s…lots of wind, you know, just…gotta wear some briefs or something.

  • TwilightDreamer

    Ooooo! now let the true drama begin! ;D
    Can’t say how excited I am to see exactly what unfolds next!
    If Anni’s smart, he’ll open the gate before releasing Kyle…though I’m still happy the young protector proved he wasn’t to be underestimated.

  • Hours

    Kyle: “Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo… what exactly was in that wine?”

    • xLizardx

      Well… they definitely took one hell of a trip 😀

  • SofiaT

    Sooo… it wasn’t a fiery circle. It was a fiery sphere.

    Now it makes sense.

    • Yeah, actually it does.

      It’s nice to finally have them home though.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        He hasn’t said a word since he got burned and marked. He is still clutching his arm.

        • SofiaT

          He must be still in shock!

        • I don’t think he was expecting what happened to him.

      • SofiaT

        Did it burn?

        • It looks like it, if you check by the door, where it used to be is a pile of ash.

          • SofiaT

            That black spot? Good catch, I missed it. I thought the table was on the other direction.

          • Yeah. I went back a few pages to check to make certain.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Look at Page 8, panel 2.

          • SofiaT

            You’re right. The table was exactly where that black spot is now. The Admiral nailed it!

          • Yeah, that table is history.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Well it was on a straight line with the foot of the bed, unless it’s being blocked by one of the beams on panel 4, then it’s destroyed.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            The funniest thing is you can still see the charred trail of rose petals!

          • I noticed that too. A fine metaphor for their date.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        I’m a bad person… I wanted Kyle to walk over and grab the remaining bottle of Montrachet and then walk over and pour it over Duncan’s arm and say, “Here. Better? Oh, and thanks for the shitty date.” And walk out.

        Yes, I admit it. These pages get me all emotional … and NOT in the grown up way. 🙂

        • We can’t be grown ups all the time. Where’s the fun in that?

        • Steven K.

          I agree – and that’s such an awesome idea if he could have done that – some over the arm, but some over the head/hair first.

        • Jamie Dutton

          Yes, please 🙂

      • I feel like Kyle will never drink again after this experience. >_<

        • Probably not, but I could just see him after getting unchained and chugging the bottle.

          But it would probably be best if he didn’t. He doesn’t need his mind any more trashed than it is at this moment.

          Edit: Plus I just wanted to be fair since I said Duncan could use a drink. 🙂

          • I think they could both use a drink but I think that Kyle will be put off of it from now on.
            “Was just chained to a bed after first time. Met my demon dad. BF turned out to ACTUALLY be evil. Want…drink…” *glances at bottle* “Imma go punch something instead”
            /cliche man thing.

          • Very good point. And hopefully that something to punch would be Duncan.

          • :D!! I do love them together but GOD I want them to fight.

          • Oh I have the whole fight mapped out in my head. Then afterwards… *grin*

    • Chris Dangerfield

      I’m so glad you wrote that. It made several panels make so much more sense to me and, better. Thanks.

    • Xalun K

      I said something similar earlier – It looks like they summoned Laampros to them, instead of transporting themselves to Laampros. Everything makes more sense that way, seeing it post-hell.

  • amanda

    the look on kyle’s face is soo like “you son of a B****!!!!!!”

  • I’m a little punchy tonight I think. So I had a small giggle fit when I looked at panel 2 and saw Laampy’s flowing fiery locks fluttering gloriously behind him as he flies away. 😀

    • SofiaT

      I hadn’t noticed, but went back after reading your comment and actually laughed out loud! 😀

      • It just struck me as I was studying it all a little closer and said nice locks and started giggling. 🙂

        • SofiaT

          He must be using Pantene, that’s a lot of volume. You think he blow-dries?

          • HA! I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a whole fiery grooming regiment. Those are luscious flames.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            The Fabio of his hell-plane?

          • Of course. He has a reputation to uphold!

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      That’s also where Kyle begins to shoot fire from his limbs again, and the portal begins to close. What activated that? Laampros’ departure?

      • Maybe when Laampy kissed him.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Did you take a close look at Duncan’s arm in the last panel? It looks like hell!

          • Yeah, it’s pretty messed up.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ha ha! Suck it, Duncan.

    • Is it just me who finds the cute little hair tie he wears in his beard so funny?

      • Feverfew_M

        Nope, not just you. And it must be magical, not to slip off all the time. 😀

        • I bet it doesn’t tangle or tear whenever he takes it off. Laampy clearly has no split ends!

      • It’s adorable, although I’m quite certain that Laampy would take quite the exception if he knew I was calling him adorable. 🙂

  • Why we can’t see his penis? LOL

    • Amy

      We can’t see any dicks in this story. It might be because there’s a possibility of kids seeing this comic book and parents catching them or something, but I think that everyone knows what a penis looks like, lol.

      • Well Amy,I was Just kidding. I followed Alex way to other his comic.I know the fact they don’t draw it.

    • *grins* maybe he tucks it away when he flies.

      • Xalun K

        Probably; I imagine having it flapping in the wind would chafe something fierce! *snik*

      • Steven K.

        For all we know, demons might have retractable penises – like snakes. Snakes have long been associated with evil, and dark and demonic forces, or even the great fallen one himself – as in the snake in the Garden of Eden.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Thank you Alex, Adam and Veronica. You guys never disappoint. Great work.

    p.s. Alex, Deacon is STILL upside down… just sayin’

    • Thank you, Chris! 🙂

      (And we’ll just have to see how that poor magnet fares in the next chapter…)

  • AWKWARD MOMENT.

    • Toli Bera

      “So…. is it too late to ask for some cuddling?”

      • Denise Cruz

        I think Kyle would send him cuddle with the devil! (literally) XDD

  • Amanda

    Disqus hates me. For some reason it won’t let me comment from my laptop. I really freaking hate using my Kindle to do it.

  • timemonkey

    “So, up for round two?”

  • JustStoppingBye

    It looks like the spell is weakening and the fire is dissipating.

    Kyle, in his head: Ass-kicking in T-minus 2 minutes.

    And isn’t it strange that both Laampros and Kyle left their mark on Duncan by burning him.

    • Miss Quinn

      Well, Kyle is apparently Laampros’s son, so it’d make sense.

    • Cman65

      Just like his Dad

  • Amy

    OOOOH, Kyle looks like he’s going to jump on Duncan and beat him up once he’s free. I can’t wait for the next page!

  • Cman65

    One should never put to much trust in a Deamon (any) Duncan did not say he saw to keep his powers did he? So he could be a norman man who can be burnt and hurt. And Kyle can stop him now and that means “Bid Red and Very” Nasty can take him to hell as a chew toy

    • Steven K.

      Sorry, but…wow – nice chest.

  • Miss Quinn

    My only question is, has Kyle been orgasming throughout this entire spell? Because that would be kind of awkward….Also, how is the bed still intact?

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I think the mattress was over a stone slab. Everything flammable is gone including Kyle’s socks leaving behind only the extremely pissed off virgin sacrifice and the alter.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Poor Kyle’s socks! Their only crime was their soft downy comfort!

      • motordog

        Gah! I’d forgotten about the socks! *sob*

    • stickfigurefairytales

      I think the orgasm stopped once they transported into the hell dimension.

      • Miss Quinn

        Well, that sounds significantly less awkward that the alternative.

      • Steven K.

        I hope that’s the case, actually.

    • Steven K.

      I’ve been asking that first question for many many pages now, and Alex has yet to provide any precise information as to when Kyle’s “pleasure” would have stopped, if it did.

      • Miss Quinn

        How awkward would it be to meet your long lost demon father while still getting off?

        • Steven K.

          I know! All kinds of “issues” like that.

  • Khun David

    Damn… I’ve had bad dates, but this one takes the cake.

    • xLizardx

      Agreed. And… chinchilla! Awww. I used to have pet chinchillas 🙂

    • Firebirds1

      yeah, happy birthday, Kyle

  • Kalynn Osburn

    Duncan you has som’ esplainin’ to do!

  • Kit the Coyote

    Now comes that awkward post first time coitus phase, do we cuddle, smoke, make polite little lies and leave or beat the crap out of each other?

    • Chris Dangerfield

      “Erm…. I’m… sorry…. What was your name again?”

    • Steven K.

      Those that “make polite little lies and leave” really piss me off.

    • Anni:”So… well, this may be awkward, but I’m in a lot of pain. Would you mind leaving for a little bit?”
      Kyle: “I am going to fucking kill you”

  • Kellen Connor

    I sense a severe ass-whoopin’ in someone’s immediate future.

  • ithilloke

    That is one fire retardant bed!

    • Yukiness

      Called it!

      • Firebirds1

        well, i guess its a good thing they didn’t get to more fun activities, since that stone slab can’t have been overly comfortable.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Looks to me like a stone slab that was probably under the mattress. But I could be mistaken.

  • fujoshifanatic

    Well, that was a family reunion Kyle won’t soon forget–nor fondly remember I suppose. And if I were Duncan right now, I would worry less about my arm and more about the beat-down I’m about to get from a very angry young demi-demon whose date he pretty much ruined, especially since he now seems vulnerable to said demi-demon’s attacks. 0_0

    I wonder if there is a reason Laampros did not take (keep?) Kyle with him in the Netherword, since he is, after all, his newly-claimed son? Is the demon waiting for the right time for Kyle to take his rightful place as the Prince of Hell? Or maybe Laampros was being a bit less than forthright in his admission to being Kyle’s father? And if he is telling the truth, does this mean that Spooky could now exert his demon-conjuring power onto Kyle in some way? Or maybe Kyle can enhance Spooky’s powers? So many questions to answer–the next page (hopefully Wednesday? *crossing fingers*) cannot come soon enough!

    And if this is a “work in progress” page, Alex, you needn’t worry; it is gorgeous as always, especially the fire rendering. That mid-air flourish in the last panel is especially beautiful to me. It really looks like Veronica captured the last second before the flames (and presumably Kyle’s chains) go out, and the ass-whooping begins, thus heightening the tension of the last panel exponentially. Well done!

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Simple fix: Kyle just burns off the rest of Duncan’s arm with the mark (stinky for a moment yes… but oh well… good deeds have their price) and Duncan is off the hook re the demon-deal. Right?

    Well I suppose Kyle would have to be feeling generous, randomly heroic and somewhat kind… heh… usually after dates like this one I tend to feel less kindly.

    But I’m NO hero (I can tell, because I like the look in the last panel that shows Duncan is still in a lot of pain… hope that pain lasts for a good while).

    You know… this is all probably one of those things only Solomon ever really understood… funny that.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    “Phenomenal cosmic powers! … Itty bitty dick.”

    And children… there we see another example of the great cosmic balance at work. *stands up* Okay lets all go get our graham crackers and apple juice… Okay?

    • Steven K.

      Great cosmic balance, eh? OK – well, um, since I don’t seem to have any sort of cosmic powers, not even non-phenomenal ones, WHY am I not proverbially “horse-hung”??? It would seem like the least in terms of compensation that should be due for such an adversity-laden life.

  • SofiaT

    Ah! The point you’re making in the last two paragraphs, I know exactly what you mean. No critique from me there, just an observation: since this is a comic, it needs it’s comic-reliefs too, you can’t have it being all heavy stuff only. That scene where Kyle was running around invisible was very funny, but I think it was meant to be.

    Anyway, you asked for Alex’s opinion, not mine, so I’ll shut up now and wait to see what Alex has to say about it 😀

    Just one last thing, you may want to verify your email address with Disqus so that your comments may be posted immediately and not get stuck waiting for moderation. Good to have you in the comments section Toby, I hope you’ll be a regular presence here 🙂

  • Adam Irving

    Boy…and I’ll bet Kyle thought the last family get together at Thanksgiving was awkward. This one takes the cake!

    • NovaLaMason

      THIS COMMENT IS SO TUMBLR-WORTHY, OMG

  • Chris Dangerfield

    My compliments on a really fine and classy discussion here between all of you. Thank you, I really enjoyed reading this.

    I echo you all… I’d love to hear Alex’s thoughts.

    In prose, I read similar questions/discussions often, about an author’s “choice” between writing scenes that detail the sexual contact “explicitly” and scenes that choose “fade to black” and leave the physical sex in the readers imagination. I’ve enjoyed both methods. Depending on the skills of the author, either choice can be an amazing or poor choice. And that’s possibly the point.

    What I enjoy about Toby’s question is the idea that when does Alex’s policy/choice to use art to coyly hide the obviously “there” penis end up drawing MORE attention to the very issue that Alex might perhaps prefer to simply avoid? Or, conversely, is Alex leaving the issue of titillation wisely up to each of us by choosing as he does? As we are a vastly varied and unique readership.

    Okay an extreme and silly example, but the end of one of the Austin Powers films plays to the power to draw this type of attention to the point of ultimate ridiculousness…

    (Scroll in a bit)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl_295f530E

    On the other hand, I would imagine that Alex’s consistency in this, consitently tells his regular readers that THIS is not going to be about THAT. That said, we still discuss “the shadow of something, or the maybe bat-wing tip” endlessly. Perhaps, that’s just human nature?

    Now I’m just musing… flaccid penises, outside of sexual excitement can be beautiful or comedic all on their own… odd, fascinating, beautiful creatures that they are. I’m not sure there is a win win on this one and Alex may have found his own way through the mine field gracefully after all. (?)

    That said, I look forward to his thoughts. Thanks again.

    Best,
    ChrisD

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I wonder if Duncan’s arm will heal up now that he’s back in the regular world, or if demon-inflicted wounds are permanently exempt from his powers. Maybe it’ll just scar?

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I’m wondering the same thing. I hope It’s permanent, serves him right.

    • mogoskier

      If that is true that means that Kyle burn will stay to.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Unless it’s only injuries directly inflicted by full demons and/or ones with active demonic power tied to them.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Isn’t that alliteration? I thought consonance was the repetition of consonant sounds within words rather than starting them.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Like, um, fluttering glittery butt (or something)?

      • stickfigurefairytales

        …that was a terrible example.

    • Steven K.

      Alliteration is a type of consonance where the sounds are repeated at the beginning of words, rather than within the words. Consonance can apply to either – all alliteration is a type of consonance, but not all consonance is alliterative.

      • Klaus

        The beginning of stressed syllables, actually.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Ah, thank you!

      • In language, alliteration is the repetition of a particular sound in the prominent lifts (or stressed syllables) of a series of words or phrases. Alliteration has developed largely through poetry, in which it more narrowly refers to the repetition of a consonant in any syllables that, according to the poem’s meter, are stressed,[1][2][3] as in James Thomson’s verse “Come…dragging the lazy languid Line along”. Another example is Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers.[4]

        Consonance (ex: As the wind will bend)
        is another ‘phonetic agreement’ akin to alliteration. It refers to the repetition of consonant sounds. Alliteration is a special case of consonance where the repeated consonant sound is at the stressed syllable.[5] Alliteration may also include the use of different consonants with similar properties[6] such as alliterating z with s, as does Tolkien in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, or as Anglo-Saxon (Old English) poets would alliterate hard/fricative g with soft g (the latter exemplified in some courses as the letter yogh – ȝ – pronounced like the y in yarrow or the j in Jotunheim); this is known as license.[citation needed]

        There is one specialized form of alliteration called Symmetrical Alliteration. That is, alliteration containing parallelism.[7] In this case, the phrase must be constituted of by two end words both starting with the same letter, and the pairs of outside words getting progressively closer to the center of the phrase also starting with identical letters. For example, “rust brown blazers rule”, “purely and fundamentally for analytical purposes” or “fluoro colour co-ordination forever”. Symmetrical alliteration is similar to palindromes in its usage of symmetry.

        • Steven K.

          Yeah – alliteration especially important or prominent on stressed syllables in Anglo-Saxon verse, whether the exact same consonant or those with similar type sounds.
          “Weorc wuldorfaedar, swa he wundra gehwaes”

          • I love a good alliteration. I think I got really hooked on them when I took medieval lit in college.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I hope that Kyle (and the other Young Protectors, hopefully) can pull off some sort of awesome attack to get the other key away from Duncan and Sircea before they can activate it. I think that’s the world’s best chance for not getting ravaged by demonic hordes.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Exactly. Failure to do that would mean that Kyle would be partially responsible for the destruction. Another thing for him to deal with on top of everything that has happened to him.

  • I was writing you an answer to this, but my internet crapped out and it was lost. Coming back I can see that Alex just replied to you himself, giving a lot of the same reasons I was just writing, so I’ll leave it with his answer 🙂

  • Gaz Hawkins

    I hope Kyle & Duncan fight and Kyle Stays Naked…. or maybe Duncan leaves him tied up and the rest (or one) of the YP find him (we can see who springs a woody at the naked Kyle) 😉

  • I’m waiting so see where PP is in all of this right now and what what exactly her relations to Anni is. Looking at this risky deal as a whole (from what we know now) she kinda got the easy part in it. She made the spells and first contact with L., the rest has been Anni.
    She might be going back to becoming elder again if this screws up, but would she be punished by L. the same way as Anni would? She hasn’t signed the deal in blood.

    There has been some communication between Laampros and PP that we don’t know the context of, but some of what happened between Anni and L. seems to come a surprise to Anni. Not sure PP has told him everything the deal involved – or it could just be the normal case of uncertainties when communicating with a demon.

    Depending on the still unknown relation between PP and Anni, I question if she would even have co-operated with Anni if she hadn’t needed to?

    Laampros leaving with the key with Anni and Duncan being back in their own dimension suggest that PP wasn’t needed on the ‘other side’ with the other key while Anni sealed the deal. She could have hidden it, and would just need to be let back with Kyle as we see L. do here. So could this actually have been done by her alone if Kyle didn’t happen to be gay?
    I’m looking forward to see Anni and PP’s next interaction, and if she has some plans of her own going solo. Are they having a real partnership in crime, or is Anni a long term pawn in her plan that becomes less necessary now she got her part of the deal?
    I could just be a little too suspicious now, but something doesn’t seem completely right to me.

    (I’m not even gonna touch the area of theories/consequences that could involve Anni getting conflicted about Kyle and creating a devide between him and PP in this comment. That’s for another debate later).

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Well, she seems to have gotten the better part of the deal. She gets everything, assuming the deal goes through, and didn’t take any of the risks.

      Laampros says on the first panel “You have my mark, fail me and I will destroy you”. Sircea doesn’t have Laampros mark on her. If anything goes wrong, Duncan is the one to pay for it. She may loose her youth and perfect health if something goes wrong but I don’t see her paying as high a price as Duncan.
      She may have planned it that way. We still don’t know enough about her. The next few pages should be very informative.

      • Exactly my thought, about your edit. I suspect PP’s pulling the strings in this more than Duncan is aware of. I really look forward to the upcoing pages with these two. What will Duncan do if he finds that he’s just been a well played pawn? He sure ain’t gonna like it.

        • Chris Dangerfield

          All very interesting thinking. Part two of that question might be, “What can Duncan do if he finds that he’s just been a well played pawn?

    • Xalun K

      I don’t know, but I’ll bet Duncan rips her to shreds if she tries something that doesn’t involve him (assuming he can touch her, she’s probably a tricky little witch).

      Also, I don’t know if her part was necessarily easy… I mean, we have no idea how long it takes her to prepare spells, or how involved it is, or anything like that. Maybe, while Duncan spent 10 minutes in the company of a demon making a bargain, Sircea spent days and days labouring over the perfect spell.

      We just don’t know yet.

    • davefragments

      wouldn’t it be a scream if Duncan and the Platinum Priestess were brother and sister?

      • Denise Cruz

        Chills – – brrrrrrr —- chills
        But, it seems more acceptable to me than saying she was Kyle’s mother… – creepyyyyyyy

      • I’ve thought about that. It could bring all new interesting theories about plot to the table.

      • Sanbai

        Wait, I thought that was the case all along…? I had just assumed that from the beginning… Q.Q

        • davefragments

          It would be so creepy

      • Ian Love

        Make them twins, for the obvious twist!

        It’s pretty amusing the two have such a high amount of confidence . I’m surprised Duncan’s never been crushed by his own hubris at some point prior to his life. At least Kyle and his “dad”, act unpredictably to Duncan’s plans. oh how the fall will be satisfying , with the updates we had so far. As if everything will go as planned, I still roll my eyes at that little comment that it would be PP or Duncan, because they sure have the charms to seduce a kid.

        • great…it’s like Flowers in the Attic except the kids really actually are “bad” or whatever…rather than just being unfortunate pawns in some stupid scheme between generations…

      • Chris Dangerfield

        “Scream” is a perfectly apt word selection. :0

      • are you serious?

        what are we doing?

        VC Andrews?

    • i love this comment for it perfectly highlights a place i hate to be and that is the one in which everyone has justification for their whatever and i’m like so what…this just turns into mega Super Secret Wars except nobody is getting taken off planet to fight…everyone is going to duke it out here and destroy everything? great…so why again are we all fighting over this little hunk of rock?

      …huh…that was definite tangent there…anyhoo-

      in fact now that i flew off on that train wreck i have no idea what i actually wanted to say…oh well…must not have been that important…whatever…lol.

  • SofiaT

    Hi dawapoz,

    Sorry that your comment took so long to post -it appears that you need to verify your email address with Disqus, so in the meantime your comments end up in moderation queue.

    Just a note: While I’m sure that you meant your comment as a criticism of Alex’s decision to not include explicit nudity in his work (and that’s more that fine, since Alex welcomes all critique, positive or negative!) your comment could perhaps be mistaken for an “attack” on Amy’s comment and her reasoning -which of course would not be acceptable here. If I thought the latter was true, I would have not allowed your comment to be posted without moderating it first. As I said, I don’t think that’s the case though 🙂

    So, I would just like to take the opportunity to remind everyone to be very careful with the language they use when commenting, so such possible misunderstandings may be avoided. For anyone who wishes to refresh their memory about what the Comments Policy includes, please see here: http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/comment-policy/

    To return to the original comment, and Alex’s reasons for not including explicit nudity in his comics, please see the reply he gave earlier today to another commenter:
    http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-46/#comment-1115735470

    I hope that has been of some help. 🙂

  • Kyle is going to kick his ass.:P

  • Saxon_Brenton

    For me that the big question. I’ve ragged on this before, but I think it bears repeating: part of why I find Kyle such an intriguing character is the uncertainty over whether he’ll react to a given situation as a hormonally addled teenager or as a dedicated superhero.

    Initially Anni’s deception (that he was going anti-hero if not outright reforming) meant that Kyle could kinda-sorta rationalise continuing to socialise with him. That said, I think he made a major tactical mistake by dating ‘The world’s most dangerous villain’ without telling Commander what he was doing.

    Now, the signs are that when Kyle focuses on his superheroing he defaults to ‘boy scout’ mode. I am *really* hoping that when he consciously realises what his choices are his default reaction is an immediate, “Screw the consequences to myself, including being outed. The fate of the world is at stake, so I’m calling for help and laying all the cards on the table.”

    Of course, he might not make that choice. Or at least, not at first. But whenever it comes, it’s that *moment* of choice and the circumstances surrounding it that I’m hanging out for.

    • SofiaT

      Beautifuly articulated, thank you! 🙂

  • Hi Mickey! Just a quick FYI – You may want to verify your email address with Discus. Your very interesting comment(s) were stuck in moderation. 🙂

  • Xalun K

    It was so completely unnecessary for you to be an ass, dude.

  • Whatever I’ve done, I’m glad you liked it! Of course I never know when I do these things. 🙂

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    How about this?:

    A gay Kyle:
    Sircea: “Darling you know I would have gone if Kyle had been straight, but since he’s gay I can’t. You have to be the one to go”
    Duncan: “Oh, OK. That makes sense, I’ll go then”.

    A straight Kyle:
    Sircea to a female accomplice: “Darling you know I would go but I’m too old and he doesn’t trust me, but you’re young and pretty and you can get him to trust you. You have to be the one to go”
    Miss “X”:”Oh, OK. That makes sense, I’ll go then”.

    • Xalun K

      Yeah, six on one hand, half a dozen on the other. Sircea would have kept her nose ‘clean’ either way.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        As much as my gut wants to feel you are correct, I have to be honest and say there are only two lines in the whole book that really give me any possible information about her.

        I have no earthly idea what to expect from that one… although she does have a little Mavin aura about her sometimes. Maybe a long lost cousin? LOL.

    • dereule101

      He didn’t trust Duncan when they first met, either. Not saying her reasoning wouldn’t have worked, though.

  • Denise Cruz

    AAANNNDDD… We’re back!!

    Did I drink so much?! (looking around) Oh! No, I didn’t!! XDD

    Now, I wonder: what are they going to do with each other?

    Two worlds colliding. And not in the good way, unfortunately…

    Duncan can’t just set Kyle free. The kid would kill him right away. (or would, at least, try to). But, he also can’t just go away and let the kid chained like that, in such a remote place…

    Hard times, Anni! XDD (you know I love you, but you deserve what is coming your way! Sorry!)

    On the other hand: What will Kyle do?

    He certainly isn’t pretty excited about having a nice conversation with Duncan, right now. He’s shaked by so many things that happened and are still happening with him. All of a sudden. His mind is full of the creepiest memories someone could have AND he’s still chained over that damn bed, probably wondering how the hell will he get to go out of that situation and avoid what that damn old fox started already…

    How will he handle all of this? How should he? How should they?

    • Steven K.

      That just about sums it up very well! Pain and suffering all ’round. 🙁

      • Denise Cruz

        This is bad!! >~<
        I can even start imagining how they'll handle this awkward situation… 🙁
        Can't you open a gate and take Kyle away?! O.o

        • Steven K.

          I would sure love to be able to do that right now!! If I could, I wouldn’t hesitate one fraction-of-a-second to do so.

          • Denise Cruz

            Maybe… Well.. maybe we both should find a way to make a deal With Laampros… XD (yakes!) You’d take care of our cute redhaired boy and I’d do the same with our silver fox! ( I promisse you I’d make him pay, before taking good care of him, all righ?! I promisse you! XDD)

        • Steven K.

          You know I’d be the first one to do so in a split-second if I could! Of course I don’t have a B.B. to help me arrange things like that – but maybe that’s for the best in some ways.

          • Denise Cruz

            I believe is never a good thing having a BB to help you arranging anything! Look at Anni’s situation… It doesn’t look good and she doesn’t seem to care… at all.

  • Firebirds1

    ….Soooooo….. awkward moment…..

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      very awkward.

      • Firebirds1

        what EVER will they talk about?

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          I have no idea. Will Kyle burn Duncan if he sets him free? Can Duncan afford to free Kyle and not have Kyle warn the others about Duncan’s plans? Will Duncan leave him tied up?

          • Firebirds1

            Also, geez Duncan’s pretty obsessed with the Americas… either he’s a Yankophile or he just really wants some payback for the Revolutionary War

          • Denise Cruz

            I believe it’s just because he needs some place to live without demons devouring everything and everyone around… so, why not the same place where he already lives?
            Convenient, uhn?! O.o
            He’s such a gray fox!!

          • Chris Dangerfield

            “Yankophile”

            Sincerely, is there really such a thing? Honestly, I’ve never heard that term before. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Maybe Sircea shows up there.. and the other YP… It would still be awkward/weird but, for different reasons, at least… O.o

          • I can just see Sircea showing up and seeing Duncan crouched there in pain. I’m not thinking she’ll hold much sympathy. That should be interesting.

            Although if Kyle has broken his chains and is fighting Duncan when she shows, that might be interesting as well.

          • Denise Cruz

            I believe she’d show up almost like a thunder…Only because she needs to be certain about the deal made with Laampros. So, she probably will take Duncan away from there. As quickly as possible. Just it! She won’t be willing to fight or discuss anything, at all.

            That’s what I think, at the moment. 😉

          • She could also just leave him and open the gate herself knowing that the deal with struck. That is if she was just using Duncan. 😐

            *singing* Wednesday, where are youuuu?

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh! She can’t leave him! The contract was made by HIM. It’s in HIS forearm. If he isn’t with her… Laampros owns her NOTHING!! She’s screwed!
            Unless she had already made ​​some other arrangement by herself with Laampros, previously. But, if so, why would she need Anni and Kyle?

            Wednesday seems so so far away… i.i

          • But she was included in part of the bargain. Yes it was his blood that sealed the deal, but if she used the key without Duncan… Who knows? The deal at that point, wouldn’t it be completed?

            Really far away.

          • Denise Cruz

            Yeah! Maybe she could get it without him, after all.
            And maybe this is exactly what he needs to learn a little bit about humility… It can’t be so bad! (Not for him, at least. Hard, yes! Bad, no so much!).

            BUT, if it goes this way, it would probably be impossible to avoid Laampros’ invasion! No one knows where is that boobed buzzard, anyway.

          • Hahaha! Boobed buzzard! I love it!!

          • Denise Cruz

            It looks so much like her, doesn’t it? XDD (Buzzards use to wait for someone getting screwed enough, so they won’t have even to fight, just eat him up. That’s why I call her that!)

            ‘BB’ just didn’t maintain her right color, (black, of course), because she likes pretending she’s younger. So she used her spells to keep the white color. As the buzzards offsprings.

          • It’s a great comparison! There is a vulture that is white. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Vulture 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh! But this white vulture is too much chic to be her… I think about her like a damn black common one! XDD

          • Sure sure. 🙂 Great comparison either way!

          • Denise Cruz

            Thanks!! 😉

        • motordog

          Anni: “So…seems I reunited you with your dad…I guess we each got something out of this then! Hehe…no need to thank me…”

          • Chris Dangerfield

            HA

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Duncan had time to prepare, he knew what was going to happen. He probably had the bed made just for that purpose. Most likely the mattress was sitting on top of a stone slab and the whole thing was dressed to look just like a regular bed.

  • DarkFeanix21

    Oh dear, this is going to be awkward.

  • Steven K.

    Even though I always wanted Duncan and Kyle to be together, and maybe deep down I still would want that if there was some type of major redemption on Duncan’s part (and more making up to Kyle than can be imagined right now), as many have discussed – I have to say that, right now, in the moment of the last panel of this page, if Kyle were to suddenly break free and blast Duncan into oblivion, I wouldn’t feel too badly about that. My patience with him and Kyle’s bound situation is almost at an end. I just want Kyle safe, better, with a partner who cares about him, and a very skilled psychotherapist – and maybe, if he can find one, some professional who is a combination of geneticist and occultist to sort out his heritage.

    • motordog

      I feel the same…part of me STILL (in spite of all that has happened) wants them to be together. But, I also realize there is a time to let go of your dream and focus on the future. Alex tells a mean story, but I’m not sure (short of some kind of mind control excuse) that Duncan can be pulled out of this mess with any credibility. It would have to be quite a twist to make it fully satisfying and acceptable to all. I fear I don’t have the talent to hazard a guess as to how he can do it (again, without going into fairly…imo…unsatisfying evil twin/ mind control/ possession territory).

      So…I’m marking the site of the sunken ship Redilator on my charts (just in case I need to return to these doomed waters someday), but I’m also spreading some rose petals on the waves as a kind of ‘farewell’. Oh, she was a fine ship in her day…*sniff* ;-;

      • We’ll keep your life jacket for you, what with all the fancy monogramming!

      • Sanbai

        That was lovely Motordog.

      • SofiaT

        I’m not giving your spot to anyone, you’ll always be my First Mate.

        And as the Admiral said, your life jacket is tucked here under the steering wheel, with your initials on it (MD), if you ever need it. 🙂

        • motordog

          Thanks maties!

      • Chris Dangerfield

        I agree with you both. In India there is a ceremony called the Ganga Aarti (forgive spelling please) and one lights a small candle set in bright red flower petal or garland and sets it and some inner piece of youself with into the river, Ganges. That piece of yourself goes with it as it drifts away down river freeing you a little. I saw it in Varanasi and it’s profound.

        http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4069/4362698444_56f045e242_z.jpg

        http://goindia.about.com/od/spiritualplaces/ss/Ganga-Aarti-In-India.htm

        – I too wanted K&D together
        – I took the betrayal too hard, you saw…
        – Duncan’s calculated and coldly ‘appearing’ seduction of a vulnerable Kyle has been taking place for 132 pages serially… once or twice a week (minus the pages not about them).
        – Kyle has been paralyzed and chained to that slab for 18 serial pages (9 weeks real-time?).

        (no criticisms here Alex, just exploring why it so emotional for some of us)

        – I’ve been biting nails wanting some kind of triumph for Kyle
        – I’ve been wanting a surprise twist to allow me to forgive Duncan. I can’t imagine what, but I’ve been yearning for something.

        None of these thing have happened yet… So for the moment I know I have to put all of it in the River Ganges and let it float away and something new will beeeeeee…….

        I just keep reminding myself that Deacon & Jeff’s moments of joy were small and hard won, and mostly came at the very end. Tough tough stuff, even though very much worth it.

        Wednesday seems very far away indeed just now. 😐

        • Steven K.

          I really share all of what you mentioned. I still feel the tears welling up if I think of it too much.

      • Steven K.

        Aww – I know!

      • Feverfew_M

        But, but, but,… we have buckets! And muffins! :((( *waves crocheted Redilator-flag*
        😉
        I haven’t given up on them, yet. If even I can imagine a few ways to bring them back together that don’t make me want to puke, I trust that Alex can come up with an even better way. Heavy drama and great differences are just the pavement on the way to the HEA. *crosses fingers and lives in hope*
        Meanwhile we’re going to keep some muffins for you all! 🙂

        • motordog

          Actually, my best hope lies in the fact we still have two years of story to get through…a LOT can happen in two years, after all. Unless Alex puts a time-skip in somewhere, I don’t see Redilator working out until near the end of the story (if at all…*sigh*…and I STILL want it to happen!).

  • Anankhe

    can we please take a moment to appreciate the fire cock floating in the air in the last panel?

    • motordog

      lol…didn’t see it until you mentioned it…now I can’t NOT see it!

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Haha, good one! As motordog said: “now I can’t not see it”.

    • SofiaT

      Ha. It was Rorschach’s birthday the other day… Just saying 😀

      • motordog

        I saw that…I was also surprised to see that Rorschach was kind of cute! Died in his 30’s, too.

    • Ian Love

      Congratulations My attention is drawn to this rendering of a flaming genital. How I just realized that subtext. It sure brought a smile. How quickly Eros turn to a passionate hate. May I add that I think the kid deserves some pants now, after all that trauma.

      • Steven K.

        Yes, please.

    • Chris Dangerfield

      Ahahahahahaha… I shall never see this page the same way again. Thank yew!

  • Denise Cruz

    Hey! I just noticed it: We won’t see ‘George’ anymore… (Or, maybe…will we?! O.o )
    So sorry, @Amanda!

    • @disqus_5yYGRkSeuL:disqus is quite despondent over the matter that she’ll no longer have him to stare at. 😀

      • Denise Cruz

        lol I’m sorry, @Holly! lol

      • Yes, I’m sorry about that too. We know George will continue to stare even if we can’t see him…but that doesn’t help with this loss.

        • Yes, how can you stare when the other is not present. It’s just not the same.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Quick we need fanart of George!

      • Denise Cruz

        I wish I could do it, but I’m terrible in drawing!! And I haven’t seen our sweetie friends who are good on it , too… i.i Sorry!

        OH! Maybe ‘George’ could send us a nice picture of himself! Maybe he likes posing! lol 😉

  • you are fucked Duncan!

  • I’m sure others have discussed this already but I have a feeling Duncan will say a couple of things then leave the warehouse. Kyle will stay chained to that concrete slab, and either the spell will “run out,” freeing him, or Duncan will place an anonymous call to his friends so he can be found.

    Either way Kyle will have to tell his team what has happened so they can stop what’s coming next. Poor Kyle…having to come out under such circumstances, having to explain just how lousy his first real date was (and being seduced by an arch villain), meeting his demonic father, and telling everyone the world is about to end as we (they) know it.

    • Chris Dangerfield

      Nice ruminations on the future possibilities. Sad that none of them bring comfort. I wonder how many chapters away “any” comfort is? I swear I trust Alex, but in Artifice we were quite close to the final pages before we got any… ‘comfort’. Challenging stuff, I must say.

      Ahhhhhhh… the trials of being a Woolfson addict. Glad I’m not alone. 😀

      Best,
      ChrisD

      • Denise Cruz

        Alex seems to be a greedy sadist, when it comes to his readers! XDD (NO offense intended! For God’s sake!! I’m just kidding!) He never lets us breathe enough to even start asking for comfort or to be able to say any kind of safe word… Let’s hope he gets a little bit merciful, at least, over Kyle and maybe, (just maybe), over Anni, too. (Although, this last one, deserves some pain and suffering, right now).

        • Though I like @SofiaT ‘s idea a few comments above where Kyle walks slowly up to Duncan and punches him then walks out. Naked. That would give me a small comfort in this dark aftermath.

          • Denise Cruz

            I didn’t see @Sofia T’s comment, (couldn’t read them all,once I only got seeing the new page on morning after), but, yeah! It seems very nice! Although, I wonder if Kyle would be able to stop beating him, once he’d started it. I know I wouldn’t. At least, not for a while.. lol And… well… if he walks out naked, it could put him in some trouble again! (Come on! Which freak pervert wouldn’t want a chance like that to put hands over him, at least for a little bit?! – or for a little bite!! – XDD

          • This is a good point as to whether Kyle would be able to stop once he starts throwing those punches. As for him being in trouble naked, well, I think Kyle’s pissed off enough let loose with the fire if some idiot tries something.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I agree, Kyle is too pissed off to let anyone touch him, especially to do him any more harm.

          • Denise Cruz

            He’s so shaken right now, poor thing! Maybe he’d end up completely losing control over himself if was put under such intense circunstances, right away.

            About the ‘pissed off’ situation: Yeah! You also have a good point there. But, even being so angry and shaken, would he be able to go over his beliefs and hurt another person ?! (Even if it’s such a… vile ‘person’… He’s still a Young Protector, unh?! It would be against everything he believes…) I don’t know…

          • Hmm. I love your reminder that Kyle is a Young Protector and hurting someone would go against everything he believes in. Now I’m REALLY curious to see what happens next with him and Duncan!

        • Steven K.

          Ditto! And well said!

          • Denise Cruz

            Thanks, Mr. Red Hot! XD

          • Steven K.

            You’re such a sweetheart, D.

          • Denise Cruz

            Ownnnn!! Thanks!!
            I love when someone calls me like that!! 🙂 (It always brings me great memories!)
            You are a honey, too, SK!! ^V^

      • Steven K.

        No – not alone for sure. My emotions have been reduced to a quivering pool of discomfort on several occasions now, punctuated by brief respites.

  • Sethy

    Oooooh now you’re gonna get it Anni

    • yep. like maybe someone should have spent less time on the super villain paperwork bullshit he was so proud of and maybe a little more time wondering…uh…WHERE THE FUCK DID KYLE’S POWERS sorry- come from if not mutant, traditional magic or…accident? I forgot what it was that S. said.

      • Mutant, alien, or conventional magic. 🙂

        • thank!

          yes…someone fucked up big time…and if Duncan falls a few notches or just freefalls…if the breakdown is such that he keenly feels and knows it…awesome!

          That was the one thing i hated the most about him and thus in a sense about this comic, and that was his constant smug, self-assured bullshit nonsense that he’s awesome when he never, from the audient standpoint or really even Kyle’s truly demonstrates why he is so deserving of such self-worth…

          • A question was asked a page or so ago, how does someone invulnerable get his ass kicked so he learns something.

            Maybe now’s the time for that. He’s been manhandled and marked by a demon, threatened by said demon with destruction, and burned by a kid he thought mostly harmless and sweet.

            How’s that deal looking now, Duncan? Was it worth it?

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Exactly AJ. Oh how I long for a look into Duncan’s mind and to have an inkling of that very answer.

            Was this worth it? Is this what he wanted?

            Other than being burned, it ‘seems’ so. One thing that is interesting, is that other than Kyle’s moment of freedom, speaking and then burning Duncan and surprising him, it doesn’t seem to have negatively effected the deal he hoped for with Laampros at all.

            Thus in an obvious sense, all that talk of bondage and paralysis protecting ‘Kyle’ seems to have meant nothing and made no difference beyond things ending with some completely mystifying pride on Laampros’ part.

            I must say I still don’t understand what Duncan imagined would happen in the long run…

            ERM…. next page please. 😀

          • Well I don’t think it caused issue with the deal because Kyle broke free after Duncan made his offer and Laampy accepted it. The problem came because Dunc got distracted by Kyle’s attempt to stop it and so his control was take from him (a bit of payback yes?).

            I also don’t think the Duncanator was truly prepared for all that was to happen. I don’t know if he knew that Laampy would carve his mark into Duncan’s arm. Or if he did, he thought it would only be a pinch of pain.

            I think he also didn’t know that Kyle was Laampy’s son (if biological) or he would adopt him (because hey strong fire power). It’s possible he thought the demon might actually hurt Kyle, not be curious, interested, what have you.

            I think Duncan thought he would make a deal and he would go skipping off forever young (forever young, forever youuung, for…ev..ver youuuung.)(er sorry channeling Rod Stewart). Yeah, that.

            So as you said. Next page!!!!

            PS – Did any of that make sense?

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Entirely fair, from the opposite point of view.

            It just makes Duncan seem so foolish to me. Really? He thought he’d use Kyle as a convenient hellevator (I love whoever came up with that term), waltz in, make his deal with Laamp. mostly painlessly, sign on dotted line, mount the handy Kyle-ator again and zoom home (singing Rod Stewart with you). Oh, and he cared so much for Kyle’s well-being he chained and paralyzed him and took him to hell just hoping Kyle wouldn’t be noticed by Laampros. REALLY??

            Of course you could be right.

            Neither of us knows a thing, but where my sad mind at the moment sits… That all seems so wishfully positive. If (and at this moment I think it’s a very BIG if), Duncan was truly concerned over this child’s well being he wouldn’t have used him as a convenient mechanism to create the dimensional overlay (as was smartly point out).

            Suppositions are fine, but I see not one altruistic hint of Duncan-behavior in 132 pages of Duncan’s seduction and betrayal of Kyle. It’s seems only the gravest of luck that Kyle didn’t end up as a demon dinner or a demon sex-toy… depending on how that all works.

            Don’t get me wrong, I like your imaginings much more than mine. I just can’t feel the truth of them right now.

            That said, I’m all with you… NEXT PAGE!!!

          • Well, I don’t know if he holds any more care for him other than, hey, you’re not a bad sort, so I hope you don’t get killed. I think that about covers it. He may not have wanted him hurt so he could get back at all.

            So yeah, don’t know the extent of Duncan’s feelings, if he had any at all, other than hey, you’re a good kid (and I hope you don’t mind that I’m fucking you over and not in the way you anticipated). I can’t really see them ever able to regain anything possibly more than a friendship of sorts. Remember, I’m the one who just hoped to have them meet for coffee once a week. Coffee Frien-emies. 😀

            NEXT PAGE!! The battle cry of YP fandom. 🙂

          • Chris Dangerfield

            See you are such a better person than me. People who betray me never get coffee AGAIN… EVER. You? You’re good people, so you get the fresh pot. *puts on Kilt and yells* “FREEDOM” … erm… no… “NEXT PAGE!!!”

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I don’t think that Kyle could have gotten hurt. He was the one keeping the portal open. If Kyle had died the portal would have closed immediately, I think.
            I think that Laampros knew that, if not Duncan.
            But on Page 37, panel 4 Duncan looks ready to fight Laampros, when Laampy is touching Kyle.

          • Steven K.

            But you are inferring a LOT just from a “look”, although Duncan does try to distract Laampros from Kyle, and Laampros also seems to interpret this as Duncan doesn’t like him touching Kyle, BUT Duncan denies he cares about that (for either his or Kyle’s sake) – he just wants to “get down to business”.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I’m not inferring anything, Steven. I was just pointing it out. I have no idea if Duncan gives a shit at all about Kyle or not. It appears he doesn’t.

            Kyle couldn’t be killed or probably seriously harmed either by Laampros or Duncan or the portal would have closed. I’m sure both of them knew that.

          • Maybe he wanted Kyle to be quiet and unable to move so that Laampy wouldn’t claim him as son? Nah, probably not. Or it’s possible again that PP never gave Duncan the full scoop, just enough info to get him there and back.

          • Nice legs! 😀

          • Steven K.

            Your paragraph: “suppositions are fine, but I see not one altruistic…”
            I find myself fervently agreeing with that.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            This whole thing makes Duncan seem, to put it gently, not very smart.
            He seemed like smart, cunning person. What happened?
            So I’m wondering is there more behind it all? Stuff that we don’t know about? Could Sircea have lied to him about everything? Maybe “force” him some way?

          • I’m thinking he had all the wrong information. Of course Chris will think me soft hearted. Maybe, I still want to see Kyle kick Duncan’s ass.

          • Steven K.

            Yeah – he also lost the chance for some true affection and companionship, and maybe, ultimately, a lot of strangely unanticipated mutual understanding, in his life with a totally awesome and adorable young man, even though that relationship would have still been filled with various conflicts for them to overcome together, with the strength of that mutual affection to aid them (like the image in the YP ad with the lip-locked Kyle and Duncan and the text: Superhero / Supervillain / It’s complicated). I really wish that fervent and passionate and complex relationship could have been played out – working on overcoming ALL KINDS of prejudices – prejudices of younger toward older (maybe even older toward younger), straight toward gay, heroes toward villain, villain toward hero, etc., etc. – and what happens to “good” vs’ “evil” when things play out in such a way that love gets thrown in-between.
            I guess it could be similar in spirit to that friendship between the angel and demon that develops in “Good Omens” which several have alluded to here.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I thought that it where it was going at first and that it would be very challenging, but apparently it’s not. We’ll have to wait and see where all of this is going.

          • Steven K.

            Well, he can’t really expect a superhero kid is going to continue to be “harmless and sweet” after just treating him the way he did.

          • Well Duncan thought him sweet and mostly harmless, didn’t mean Kyle actually was or would continued to be. This is was all part of Duncan’s arrogance that has taken a bit of a beating.

          • my thoughts exactly lol…at least the last sentence is what i’d imagine myself saying as Duncan struggles with the aftermath…

      • Klaus

        But he did more than wonder. He had Sircea analyze Kyle. It may have been just this demonic heritage that made it possible to open the gate.

        • which makes me wonder about Duncan’s intelligence more as if I had been told Kyle’s magic was demonic in derivation, not only would that be an immediate “alrighty then,” I would want to know asap how, who, when, why etc…

      • Sethy

        Anni needs to reread the Evil Overlords list, he’s making amateur super villain mistakes

  • in other news…i continue to be impressed by the readership of this comic in terms of comments because it’s like…hmm…lost the train oh well…lol.

  • Steel_Man

    Okay…I’m lost. The only thing Annihilator had to do was give Demon Dude the key to “our” dimension. As he flies away, he has the key…so what could A-lator “fail” at? Oh, and can we PLEASE put some clothes on the kid, already?

    • Ali

      Duncan has to “activate the sister key on Earth” for Laampros to be able to use his key. http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-40/

      And I’d be okay with the lack of clothes for a few more strips. 😉

      • davefragments

        but first he has to deal with Kyle because Kyle has got that look that I wouldn’t describe as a “hunk of burning love…”
        No sir-ree sir. Kyle and Duncan are destined for a few words of explanation, retribution, begging, whining, anger and quite possibly revenge between themselves in an empty warehouse once filled with rose petals.

        • Chris Dangerfield

          Dave,

          As much as I want all of that… and I do. A LOT. I can also spin as many scenarios that allow Duncan to escape with information still NOT shared with Kyle or us. Nor do we necessarily know what Kyle thinks about Duncan or Laampros at this moment… other than that he’s clearly unhappy.

          I agree with others who think that Duncan is surprised by events… so PP may have some fast footwork to do… or NOT? I really can’t tell. I think Solomon knows, but he’s not talking to me.

          I’m struggling my best to do as Sofia also mentioned more articulately earlier, and simply (my words) go numb for a moment and await the next pages before making too many decisions. *nails are bitten*

          I fear the information will continue to come to us slowly. And I say with all sincerity, ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGG.

          That said, I really hope you’re right and I’m wrong. 🙂

          Best,
          CD

          • Steven K.

            Feeling the same here, as usual!

        • Steven K.

          SOMETHING!

        • Ali

          Oh, definitely. Kyle looks absolutely furious, and rightly so. Nothing romantic or lovey dovey with come next (at least I sincerely hope not!) but I like the ay Kyle’s drawn. His legs are awesome!

          • Steven K.

            All of Kyle’s parts are awesome in my opinion.

    • Steven K.

      Although you totally( and perhaps a bit harshly) slammed me for what you metaphorically characterized as my overly-sweet ideas of the affectionate ways I’d treat Kyle to help make up for and heal him from his painful and horrendous and a bit horrifying first-time experience, I still have to agree with you on these couple points – especially some clothes for Kyle! So I sincerely thank you for adding your voice calling for that!

      • Steel_Man

        It wasn’t my intention to be harsh, Steven. Since the remark was made publicly, the apology should me, as well. I do apologize for my comments.

        To me, Kyle went into this with his eyes open and, to be frank, deserves what he got. When at first, we practice to deceive…and all that.

        As for the rest…I’m not about half-naked teens.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          I agree with you that Kyle deserves some of the blame for what happened to him. But at the same time you have an inexperienced 18 y/o kid who was up against TWO experienced masterminds — Duncan AND Sircea. Duncan was also planning this for six years. He intentionally toned down any illegal activities to make it appear like he had stopped being a criminal.
          Although I partially blame Kyle somewhat, I don’t blame him entirely. He never had a chance against to expert manipulators.
          Kyle’s biggest mistake was being in the closet and subjecting himself to blackmail. That’s how the whole thing started. If he had been open this might not have happened, but who knows? Duncan might have still found out a way to get to him.

          Given his age, inexperience, innocence and being in the closed and terrified of being outed, he was a sitting duck.

          • Steel_Man

            Sorry, I don’t buy it. He knew the Annihilator (hence the name!) was a bad guy. Hormones made him do something stupid and first time or not, he should have to suck it up, learn a lesson and move on. We’ve all made mistakes. He’s no different.

            To address the last point, yes, he can. We’re going to learn that his pals will be supportive of his orientation and that they’ll be all “rally around the gay kid” when he finally comes out to them.

            He’s also not in Mayberry, he’s in a city. I’m sure that he can find other gay dudes to be with, romantically or carnally. I don’t buy it.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Oh really? And how many humans are fire-proof, since he bursts on fire when he cums.
            Will all these “gay dudes” have to wear a fire proof suit even on their cocks?

  • Kuraen

    Annihilator better run fast. XD

  • SteveMcSheffrey

    I’ve been accepting what Duncan’s eeevil plot is because, you know, evil super-villain. But tonight I started thinking about what a huge thing that is to do for health and youth. You’re destroying most of the world for that and who would DO that. Then it hit me what would make someone so desperate they would burn the world to the ground to achieve their goals: Duncan’s dying.

    • I’ve been wondering about his health.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        ADMIRAL!

        You should worry about Duncan…

        “Do not take VIAGRA if you take nitrates, often prescribed for chest pain, as this may cause a sudden, unsafe drop in blood pressure.

        Discuss your general health status with your doctor to ensure that you are healthy enough to engage in sexual activity. If you experience chest pain, nausea, or any other discomforts during sex, seek immediate medical help.

        VIAGRA should not be used with other ED treatments. VIAGRA should not be used with REVATIO or other products containing sildenafil…”

        There’s more… much more.

        Duncan, Duncan, Duncan…..

        • I would be more concerned if side-effect included suddenly using magic binding spells, taking another to a hell-realm, and GFE floating around

          • Jamie Dutton

            Don’t know about the magic spells and taking someone on a joyride to hell, but I took a so-called antidepressant once that had me seeing freakier things than a floating George Finnegan!
            That was a bad bad trip, man!

          • Oh jees. Yeah, if things start making you see GFE’s or worse… Such things should be on the warning labels.

            Stop taking if talking 12 ft demons, handsome supervillains called the Annihilator asking you to trust them, a woman in a platinum brassier opens a portal to hong kong appear.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Lol, yeah a warning label would be good. But then there are some who would WANT to see that stuff though, right?

          • Very very true. 😐 Well, I suppose if they find themselves suddenly in a hell realm, they were warned.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            See how full of life lessons this Graphic Novel is? Who knew? 😀

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Desperate or a selfish, sociopathic sack of turds. Because there are plenty of people out there who’d say, “Screw you, I got mine”. Exhibit A: Global Climate Change Deniers are paid off by the American Petroleum Institute and the American Enterprise Institute (ExxonMobile) and the Global Climate Coalition (BP and Dupont).

    • Feverfew_M

      I’ve been thinking about his motivation too. Even being fatally ill would be a weak excuse for handing over the world to a demon. I also imagine growing old and maybe weaker on the wrong side of the law is quite scary, but still, a reasonably well adjusted human being would certainly find a less destructive way to deal with this.

      My best guess is that he has self-identified as a ruthless villain for a very long time now. What he said to Kyle seemed to imply that he has accepted this as his nature, and doesn’t believe that change or redemption for himself is possible. So, why not go all the way and do the ultimate selfish thing? He came across as a little bitter before. He probably thinks the world has never given a f*ck about him, so why should he give a f*ck about what happens to the world, as long as he can secure himself a demon-free chunk of it.
      Also, a subconscious motivation for wanting to be young again could be that on some level he has deep regrets about how his life turned out…

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        I like it. 🙂

        I don’t see how someone who is supposedly smart and cunning can do something stupid like this. It doesn’t make sense to me.

        • Feverfew_M

          Exactly. That’s why I really don’t think it was the smart, cunning or even self-assured part of him that came up with/agreed to this plan. It must have rather been the scared, bullied child in combination with the jaded, disillusioned old man that he both hides so well behind an over-confident facade. Makes him kind of a sad figure, really.

      • Nicely thought out. I agree.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    I wonder how long it will take for Duncan to screw this up?

  • rgleon9986

    So, Kyle now has to deal not only with coming out, but also the revelation of his demonic heritage.

  • motordog

    Instead of going into battle mode, I’m wondering if Kyle’s seen enough for one day…sort of in a light (or not-so-light) state of shock. He might just get up and simply leave. I could see Anni maybe trying to say something to him, and Kyle looking over at him and wearily saying something like “Don’t…don’t you dare”, then just walking out.

    Next scene…Kyle coming through the door of the YP headquarters (probably with clothes on), looking VERY serious, going up to the Commander (or maybe everyone) and saying “We have to talk…”

    • Denise Cruz

      Some great ideas you have there!
      I can totally see it happening without any extra effort. Nice! 😉

      I also think Kyle is on the edge of sanity. He’s so exhausted, so torn… Looking at him, on that last panel, makes me want to cry!..

      Yes! Please! For all that is sacred, go home with clothes on! lol (Nothing against his naked state but, he has already too many things to explain; certainly doesn’t need this one! lol Although, it would be a great one! lol)

      I keep imagining how many kinds of reactions he would get, if it trully
      happened… Who would have the most intense reaction and what would it be?

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      The Commander should pick up something right away. How can she not after the hell he’s gone through and all the powerful emotions going through him right now.

    • SofiaT

      That would be awesome! 😀

      I’d love to see Kyle get off the bed, walk slowly towards Duncan.

      Punch him in the face. And then walk out. Naked.

      …And then go to the YP HQ for “the talk”.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Yes, that would be great. Except that they seem to be in the middle of nowhere up on the mountains and Kyle can’t fly. There is no telling how far he is from where he lives, they could even be in another country.

        • SofiaT

          Uh, details. I just want to see that punch.

        • He might find some clothing at some out of the way cabin.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Yes, but where are they? How many mountains does he have to climb up and down? How far from home is he? Is he in another country?

            I can’t see him either allowing Duncan to just carry him in his arms the way he did when they arrived, Duncan’s face just inches from him.

          • Where’s your imagination, Jakk? 🙂 There could be some nice individual who would see he was in need of aid, give him some old clothes, some food, and give him a ride home.

            Or, he finds a cabin, steals some clothing and an old beat up truck with the later intentions of paying him back.

            Or maybe he just gives flying a shot i.e. Human Torch. And walks in naked to the Command center

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Oh Admiral, you may not care anymore but I found the perfect panel for comparison: Page 9 last panel to this page’s panel 4 for the table. The two views are almost identical.

          • Table be toast. 🙂

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            My money is on Sircea or his team getting him out of there. Because I don’t see him letting Duncan touch him.

            And although possible, I don’t see him trying to get down from that mountain all the way home. He would have to get real lucky and find people willing to help him, as you said.

          • All we can do is sit on the edge of our seat and wait our breath possibly held

          • Chris Dangerfield

            For two years?

          • I know. It’s going to be difficult. I did say possibly breath held. 😐

          • Chris Dangerfield

            *nods respectfully*
            “You did.”
            *then ruins the effect by snorting his coffee*

          • Should you be drinking coffee at 3:30 in the am? That is unless you’ve taken up baking. Hey are you now a baker?

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            LOL. Well, the Admiral seems prepared to do it for two years. 😛

          • 😛

          • motordog

            Hey, maybe he leaves the wreckage of the building and finds some demon cultists waiting with a limo and a suit of clothes!

            “Ahem…are you ready to leave, young master? Your father commanded us to see to your needs.”

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            lol, I like that one!

          • Oooooh! That would be…kinda awesome.

          • SofiaT

            That would completely freak him out.

            Unless, from everything he’s experienced in the last… hour(?), he’s left so jadded he’s like “yeah, sure, whatever”.

          • motordog

            I’m thinking he’d be fed up, too. He’d just sigh and say, “Fine…fine…just take me home…MY home…and don’t talk to me…”

            I’m naming the hypothetical cultists ‘Dante’ and ‘Nicholas’…just because.

          • SofiaT

            … Alighieri & Machiavelli?

          • motordog

            ^_^

            Dante: “Young Master…would you like us to pleasure you?”
            Kyle: “NO! For the last time, NO! I don’t want ‘pleasuring’!”
            Spooky: “Dude…where you get these weird butler guys? They sure are shirtless a lot…for butlers.”
            Kyle: (groan+facepalm) “Don’t ask!”

          • SofiaT

            *gazes in Sircea’s crystal ball*

            I see fanfiction in your future, motordog 😀

          • Steven K.

            Ditto! to that.

          • Steven K.

            Hmmmm….I wonder if Alex has been exhausted enough recently with all his various work obligations, the long convention hours, the 2-page-a-week comic schedule, etc., that he might feel he needs a break …and, well, I think maybe he should take a little time off and hand the writing over to you for awhile so he can relax a bit (and you can pursue this actually really awesome plot idea – WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS, a rather out-of-the-box creative idea flying in from afar that would help provide a lot of satisfying resolution, a number of conflicts at the same time, and a little sexy and situational humor to break up all the pain and suffering – Kyle’s and that of readers like me).
            As for not needing any pleasuring, Kyle could kind of take them aside and “fervently whisper” to them:
            “Hey – I’ve just had a half-hour hyper-extended and enhanced orgasm, but which was not really a happy one and which I couldn’t just relax and enjoy!!! I need a little break from people offering me such things for awhile!”

          • motordog

            ^_^
            Thanks for the compliment! I’m more of a backseat driver, lol.

          • Steven K.

            Bummer – lol.

          • Steven K.

            WOW – That would be AWESOME! Now THERE’S a great idea!!!!! That’s probably the best idea for a resolution of the immediate situation (after Kyle somehow manages to be freed) that I’ve heard. Kyle would again be reluctant, as he initially was with Duncan, but circumstances provide a situation where he doesn’t have a lot of alternative choices, and he takes the ride, being so tired and worn and mentally and physically frazzled, with a sense of fatalistic resignation.

          • Klaus

            Well, his best friend is Fluke.

          • They might see him as he walks out. I want to see him at least leave on his own power.

          • Now I know this isn’t a comic reference, but….

            He could fire bend. How many times have Azula (aka Crazy Bitch) and Zuzu…I mean Zuko…use fire like having a pair of boot jets? I mean, he couldn’t do long distances…but it is another travel option.

          • That’s true.

          • totally!

          • motordog

            There’s always that ‘convenient’ set of clothes hanging on someone’s clothesline…returned later, of course!

          • Exactly so! 😀 And just happening to be the right size or close to it.

          • motordog

            Well, we can’t have Kyle going home in granny bloomers and a frilly blouse! 😀

          • Nope. But that would be some home coming.

            “Kyle, why are you wearing bloomers and a frilly blouse?”
            “Bad date.”

          • SofiaT

            I wish I could give two upvotes to this. 😀

          • *curtsey* 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDD Best comment ever!! XDDDDDDDD

          • Denise Cruz

            Well… it could be worse… if it was a pink lace little dress,for example. Or the Annihilator pants…
            Jesus! What a scene! XD
            Imagine Tsunami’s face at that sight! XDDD

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            A thong? 😛

          • HA!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Fiery red too! 😛

          • Maus Merryjest

            And, of course,there’s always the ‘shaped flame’ costume. Kyle can do a Human Torch hommage!

        • Klaus

          The place was within leaping distance. Hong Kong is not. So there is some limit to were they can be.

          Where do the Young Protectors live? The only Adsit Court known to Google is in Vermont, but in the fictional world there may be others. BTW, was anybody else bothered by “It will be midnight in the States in less than on hour?” Where in the states?

        • There was that helicopter landing spot we saw before that may have some significance.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I’m thinking this is where the rest of Kyle’s team bursts in to rescue him just a touch too late.

    • Chris Dangerfield

      I have so many wishes and wants, but MotorD… I can so clearly picture what you say. Just the true exhaustion of an 18-year-old who is on pure overload. If ever a birthday was mainlined, this one was.

      I just wish him unchained and allowed a moment of quiet, of peace.

      • Steven K.

        It still breaks my heart to think of all the horrible crap that just happened to him. Kyle might eventually heal from this trauma, having all those nice super-powers and all, but for me – probably not so much or as quickly.

        • Chris Dangerfield

          Don’t give up SK!!!!!!
          ———————————-

          *THERAPY MAN vaults over the door of his All-Healing-Jet-Mobile and calls out to his young parnter…*

          “Get in Self-Worth-Boy, we have to rush to heal a super-hero who’s been heinously treated! Hurry, there is not a moment to be lost.”

          *Also vaulting in because that’s what super-heroes do… thus the car door handles are sparkling clean and unused.*

          “Holy Righteous Regression THERAPY MAN, do you think you can help this young down-trodden super-hero?”

          “Of course we can! Never doubt my boy. Where there is super depression and disillusion. I WILL BE THERE!

          With an injection of Perspective, some Self-Worth bolstering, as only you can provide, and good reminder of his true Purpose, we’ll have this lad right as rain in NO TIME! Now floor it”

          *our therapeutic super-heroes follow their GPS directly to Kyle’s dejected location and fold out the back seat of the Healing-Jet-Mobile in the perfect psych sofa and, just as promised, in no time flat, Kyle is back on track to save the world and get laid by the right guy, with some decent post sex cuddling after. this duo is GOOD!*

          HEA is in the air… in a year or two… Hang in there!

          • Feverfew_M

            I think the world needs THERAPY MAN and Self-Worth-Boy. They’d never have a minute off!

          • Steven K.

            Maybe there could be a compromise where the “right guy” is, instead of 18 or 58, how about somewhere in the middle, around 38-39.
            But yeah – we need SOMETHING like that for Kyle. I also really like Motordog’s recently proposed idea. (I just need the “getting laid by the right guy” part – that would go a long way right about now).

          • can we all make this like the comment of the year or something?

            …for the entire intwarweb?

  • Steven K.

    Well, concrete wouldn’t actually “vitrify” in the way I think you are imagining. The larger particles are usually gravel particles of small rocks or rock pieces like “granites” (igneous rocks) and limestone (chemical precipitates). Since glass is made from the melting and re-solidifying of quartz/quartzite particles (silicon dioxide), the finer particles of sand that are also often in concrete may melt and re-harden into a glassy material, but this is also, along with the larger particles, embedded in a fine matrix of cement particles, which are also often from limestone, plus clay and gypsum, etc. – so it may still not work like you are thinking. I’m not a materials scientist, but I don’t think concrete “melts” in any sort of uniform or easy way – unless there were extremely high temperatures to melt the other rocks (turn them molten) that are mixed in. The different rocks have different melting points – which are quite high. I believe that, instead of melting, concrete becomes brittle and will turn powdery at temperatures higher than 1000 degrees Celsius. Some granite-like rocks melt at temps over 1200 degrees, while others have even higher melting temperatures, but even that is not precise since such rock is is made up of different minerals with different melting points. So, anyway, I’m pretty sure concrete will tend to “pulverize” or break apart as it becomes more brittle at very high temps, rather than melt and re-solidify – or vitrify – as in the case for sand/silicon-dioxide particles.

    • Mickey Phoenix

      Ah, Steven. I’d be annoyed with you for shattering my dreams of vitrified concrete…but I’m afraid I’m more than a little distracted by the sheer amount of awesome contained in your post. Um. It appears I may have a heretofore unsuspected kink for masterful geological analysis. 🙂

  • SofiaT

    I wonder how many pages are left to this chapter… I don’t know if I should fear or breathe a sigh of relief that it’s nearing its end…

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I have no clue, but I’ve been wondering who is the enemy in “Engaging the Enemy”. Is it Duncan and Sircea? Laampros and his forces? Some other that we don’t know about? All of them?

      • Steven K.

        I’m pretty sure that it is supposed to be Duncan, at least in the most obvious case. Kyle and Duncan were rather quite physically engaged there for awhile, in addition to the more general sense of “engaging” someone.

        • Klaus

          At least he was not sleeping with the enemy.

          • Steven K.

            Hmmm..on the contrary – I think it is supposed to be a play on that. Though he didn’t literally “sleep” with the enemy, he did, however, literally “go to bed” with the enemy.

    • Klaus

      Alex has said, in reply to another question, that chapter 2 will not be a long chapter. Now chapter 3, that is different.

      • SofiaT

        It was a comment that Alex made below that made me realise this chapter must be coming to an end. It must be a matter of only few pages…

        I remember that the 3rd chapter is going to be the really long one, I guess that means the bulk of the action will take place there. As in, now we’re really getting the show on the road.

        Equal parts excited, terrified and impatient about it.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Always depending on the exact story structure Alex chooses to use, of course, but an early chapter like this could afford to use a ‘downer ending’ (ala the way the end of Star Wars 5: The Empire Strikes Back ended with the protagonists having taken major loses and knowing they have a big job ahead of them to regain ground).

      So in theory chapter 2 could end in just a few pages time, with Kyle still being alive but dumped back in town by either Anni of the Priestess, feeling betrayed, embarrassed, helpless, scared, and wondering how he’s going to explain to Commander. And if so this would delay the immediate catharsis of Kyle beating the crap out of Anni that many commentators have been anticipating with such relish. Of course, Alex has already word of godded that Kyle will eventually get his act together, but this early in the piece there’s lots of room for teenager angst. For the short term, I would lay money on you needing to *fear*.

      • SofiaT

        That’s my take on it as well *sigh*.

        Oh well, I’m sure it will all be all right in the end.

        In about 2 years from now 😛

        But serisouly, I’ve been missing the team. I think they’ll provide some much-needed comic relief.

        • Chris Dangerfield

          Yes, I agree with you both, that makes three of us. I fear this chapter will end with not many more real questions answered. I am striving for zen. I shall continue my battle cry of “NEXT PAGE!” and try to avoid the more enticing one of “NEXT CHAPTER!”

          I just want our Kyle out of those chains… *wipes angsty tear* Okay?

          • SofiaT

            *pats back* Okay.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I don’t think much is going to happen either. I don’t see Kyle giving a beating to Duncan coming, and I do hope he can get out of those chains soon. At best they’ll dump him back in town and he can get back to his team. At worst he will remain a prisoner of Sircea and Duncan.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Jakk Jakk Jakk… you just had to say, “prisoner of Sircea and Duncan.” Didn’t you? Because you’re a big meanie… NO, NO, NO, don’t worry about me. I’m just off to cry in my pillow for a while. Honestly, where’s the love these days. 😛

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Best not to get your hopes up too soon, Chris. It looks to me like Kyle is going to be in a bad place for a while.

  • Steven K.

    Well, that would be a great “sample example” of assonance instead 😉

  • Klaus

    So we have all the other supers out in space dealing with the Retcon on Infinite Crossovers or something similar, with only the Young Protectors to save the earth. Taking on the army of Hell face on is obviously not going to work. Neither is tricking the Djinni to go back into the bottle. Can they prevent the villains from opening the gate in the first place? Can the use that crisis out in space to rewrite history so the deal was never made?

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Argh! That’s another thing I completely missed. good catch!

    • Is that why Duncan did this now? Because the Heroes were away?

      • Chris Dangerfield

        What like everyone just up and went off to YP-con? They just forgot to tell horny fire boy? And so he figured it was a good time to sneak off to Hong Kong with a hot slab of super-villain. You make Kyle sound so slutty……..

        Errm……. Why do I like that so much?

        *chris shrugs… he’s come to terms with his pervy ways years ago. LOL*

        • What could they have told him?

          “Hey we’re going to be away, stay away from supervillains who want to bring demons to Earth.”
          “Sure thing! Wait, how do I know…”
          *chirp chirp*

          😀

        • Steven K.

          I think Kyle’s the one most non-slutty character I’ve encountered – maybe that’s why I like and respect him so much – he held off even masturbating for the good of people he cared about – that in itself must have required super-human will and strength, esp. given how horny he must have been. I didn’t fool around with another guy till I was 19, and didn’t experience a second until I was 23, but I at least learned to masturbate around 4 or so. I also really identify with Kyle’s situation cuz, of all the people I know, I’ve had the worst luck in the sex and romance departments. So when I see a character who has had to be even more non-slutty than I have been (though for me not necessarily by choice), I can’t help but feel for him.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Sorry SK. Just my misplaced sense of humor. I agree that Kyle is the least promiscuous character I’ve ever encountered. I agree with you and I was trying to make a joke on how silly and ridiculous very idea sounded to me. Sorry it sounded sincere to you, rather than silly. Take care, CD

          • Steven K.

            Oh – no problem – I sort of suspected that. But that won’t make me give up an opportunity to defend our Kyle 😉

          • Chris Dangerfield

            You go boy! I’m 100% behind you, as you know.

            As I keep saying to Alex, fridge magnet Deacon is creeping up-right on my Fridge but he not going fully vertical until THOSE CHAIN COME OFF our Kyle and he’s is off that damn slab! (of course the stinker laughs at me, he know I’m a fan through and through), I know we’ll get there but 18 pages of bondage is enough! It’s got me all Verklemmt!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            20 pages now since Duncan cast the binding spell on him. 😐

          • Steven K.

            And I’m so with YOU on that one as well!!!

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Wasn’t sure who might find this interesting. As many know, our Alex has been at Bent-con this weekend. I liked this picture of a few super-folk lined up, day one, waiting to get in… no doubt to get their copy of the Artifice Graphic Novel. XD

    Enjoy.

    http://www.wehoville.com/2013/11/06/comic-convention-draws-lgbt-ungay-allies-burbank/

    • SofiaT

      Aww, the Admiral emailed me the link this morning, I was on the bus and had a huge grin on my face when I saw it. It’s awesome!!

      I love the Wonder-man and the female Green Lantern. XD

      I hope Alex is having a good time. 🙂
      Did you go to see him?

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Killed me… couldn’t go today due to work. Real life is constantly getting in the way of what’s important. Arg. Definitely going tomorrow. I have my Amazon copy of Artifice (pre-Alex’s-store) ready for signing, but I may have to buy another copy for stocking stuffers for geek friends. I mean a signed copy! Coolness reins.

        I’m not sure but the bat-woman in that line-up might have a bosom too…

        I hope Alex’s signing hand isn’t too exhausted! 😀

        • SofiaT

          Aqua-woman and female Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter 😀

          I got 2 signed copies from Alex’s store, signed by both him and Winona, but I’d love to meet him in person one day.
          You should take a photo of the two of you and post it here! 🙂

          • I loved the female Martian Manhunter!

          • SofiaT

            I like Aqua-woman!
            My reply to the classic question “if you could have one superhero power what would that be?” has always been “being able to breathe underwater” 😀

          • Yeah, that’s always been a favorite power!

            I never really understood everyone’s problem with Aquaman. For me, the ocean kinda freaks me out with all the creatures in it, and to have the ability to breathe underwater and communicate with said creatures etc. always seemed like a good thing.

          • SofiaT

            I grew up in the Aegean Sea 😀

            It’s calm, it’s warm, it’s freaking beautiful. If I could breathe underwater I’d never get out.As a kid, in the summer, I used to stay in all day and only leave when the sun started to set -my fingers would look like prunes.

            That said, the ocean freaks me out too. Here in Australia I always stay where it’s shallow or go to the ocean-pools like the little kids do 😛

            http://lh6.ggpht.com/_yiiPzeRfNBQ/TJLQdPJPumI/AAAAAAAABeg/zKnUXgLC7WI/s800/081204_rosa2_2_sydney_01.jpg

          • Now see, I could handle that. Cool idea. And I could most likely handle warm and calm. 🙂 One day maybe I’ll get around to seeing it.

            The area I grew up in the water was always cold and just blah and so never cared much for it.

    • Titan4Ever

      Great pic! But who is standing in front of the martian manhuntress? That’s the only character I cannot find anything iconic for identification 🙂

      • SofiaT

        Hm. The genders are reversed in this pic so do we know of any DC superheroines with orange uniforms? Only Vixen comes in my mind, but Vixen is African so, not sure.

      • Samurai Jack

        Perhaps Terra, of the Teen Titans?

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        It’s Aqua-Woman. One of DC comics “New 52” realities has Justice League characters that have been gender flipped reality. They appear in Superman/Batman #22-25 (Oct 2005) and Countdown Presents: The Search for Ray Palmer: Superwoman/Batwoman #1 (December 2007).

  • bronakopdin

    I’m simply speechless because I’m way to curious what will happen next…
    my anticipation is exploding

  • Terri Sutton

    Is it just me or is Laampy looking a little tubby in the first panel? Or am I just distracting myself from the hint of Laampy’s *ahem* “weapon”?

    • motordog

      Laampros has always had a bit of a ‘beefy’ build…souls are very high in metaphysical calories and sugar (and these days, fat as well).

    • Maus Merryjest

      The ‘weapon’ at which Anni is *directly staring*, mind you XD

  • Denita Brown

    Duncan can’t really afford to let Kyle go cause then his plans will be known. But even if the YP know their plans are they strong enough to stop them b4 Laampros can cross over? I think not. Laamps has got some plans for Kyle and I personally like a tragic story

    • Steven K.

      Depends how much Laampros is capable of love for his son, if Kyle really is indeed that. Maybe Kyle’s own personality could someday be able to influence the feelings and plans of Laampros. The power to soften the heart of the Lord of the Underworld is not without precedent.

  • WarGoddess

    Kyle: …..The FUCK, man?!!
    Duncan: Well, you already saw what was going on, my ulterior motives, yada yada you know I was just into you for your demon gate unlocking potential MY ARM IS FUCKING KILLING ME GODDAMN SONOFABITCH I CAN FEEL ACTUAL PAIN FOR ONCE FUCK JESUS FUCK!!!!!
    Kyle: You deserve every fucking bit of that, you backstabbing BASTARD. Now let me out of these chains so I can burn your ass even more!
    Duncan: *Still curled up clutching his arm whimpering*
    Kyle: Fuck, you sentenced most of the planet to a firey hell, and you can’t even handle a burn? What a little bitch!

  • Maus Merryjest

    If I were in Kyle’s place and could break free of the spell… I’d be going Queen of The Night all over Anni, especially after finding out that my powers -can- hurt him. Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen indeed!

    • davefragments

      Bravo ,,,
      Here’s the latest diva singing the most horrible words in the most delightful of all Mozart comedies.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ODfuMMyss

      • i love it when anyone links to a song from a comic…though i’ve only seen it done for a few comics…my favorite thus far is when someone linked to Jack’s Mannequin’s “Kill the Messenger” and then fell in love with the song, the singer/songwriter and like bought all of his stuff i could get my grimy little paws on except that i bought everything off Amazon’s digital store so my paws didn’t actually touch anything really and they’re not really grimy either lol…

      • Maus Merryjest

        I love Damrau’s interpretation. Another favorite Queen of mine has always been Lucia Popp, especially with the rest of the cast being Dieskau and Wunderlich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJA1dFqr1QI)

        • Steven K.

          Nice to know that, between myself and you and Klaus and Dave there is at least a handful of opera aficionados. I love musical guys – esp. those involed in classical performance – it’s so rare to find guys in my area who share my musical tastes. On the rare occasions I do, they are usually partnered already, so it usually means they still aren’t available to typically go with me to concerts and such. I’d really love to find a guy around here with whom I could share my deep passions for lots of great music, and experience it together. Last guy I fell totally in love with was an internationally known clarinetist and teacher – but he was happily partnered. Because of that, I’ve never told him how I feel, though I’ve known him for about 3 years. However, his relationship seems to be on the rocks, but I still can’t quite bring myself to say anything, since he’s at a vulnerable spot and I wouldn’t want him to think I have ulterior motives beyond just wishing he could know how I feel about him so I wouldn’t have to always hide it. Sometimes life’s enough of a drama that it reflects art as much as art may reflect life. Even though I’m actually a science professor, my fantasy-jobs (if I had a bit more musical talent) have always been to be a composer-conductor/music director or an opera singer. But alas, as in a lot of things, I just didn’t quite get the best genes.

          • Jamie Dutton

            I love your comments Steven! A lot of them say what I try to, just with better execution. I hope you find someone who appreciates you.
            You sound like a great guy to hang out with and talk about life, music, the universe, and Alex Woolfson’s (awesome) comics!

          • Steven K.

            Awww – thank you for your kind words Jamie. You are very sweet.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Thank you so much for that link… I’m not an opera expert and it was really great. This group is worth it for the side things you learn alone.

    • Steven K.

      WOW – Love your reference there! The opening line of that aria is SOOOO F_ING APPROPRIATE under the circumstances for several reasons! Great association to make. And would love it if Kyle were to do something like that – maybe he’d call forth his words of wrath (not even knowing he was capable of such things) in the same occult eldritch speech that Duncan used in casting that spell – something that would chill even Duncan to his maggoty bones and leave him a quivering wreck.

      Verstossen sei auf ewig,
      Verlassen sei auf ewig,
      Zertrümmert sei’n auf ewig

      • Maus Merryjest

        Hehe, well, I’m an opera singer, and Prince Tamino is one of my roles. The moment Laampros gave him the kiss and delivered the bomb, I immediately thought “Oh, Zittre nicht, mein lieber Sohn.”

        Then I thought, “You know, if I were Kyle, the moment those bonds snapped I’d totally go Holle Rache on Anni.”

        • Klaus

          I suppose that if Duncan were to follow the opera, and follow up with: “In these holy halls we do not know revenge”, Kyle would deviate from the script and answer. “You will.”

    • Klaus

      Didn’t Laampros just tell him “Do not tremble, my dear son”?

      • Maus Merryjest

        Zittre nicht indeed XD

  • Klaus

    So switching off the circle of fire does not remove the chains.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      It could be that they are about to disappear too. They should if the portal has closed and the spell is over, they were part of the binding spell that created the portal.
      It wouldn’t make sense just to keep the chains going just to keep him tied to the bed/stone slab.
      Also if the spell is over or mostly over (weaker), he should be able to break free as he did before. Unless he’s meant to be chained for other reasons in the story.
      We’ll have to wait and see.

  • vessto

    Poor Anni’s arm. Burned by the Redhead and used for a paper from the Redhot… :p

    • Maus Merryjest

      It makes sense- in hell, all trees would burn, so no paper.

      So skin is the new pulp!

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Environmentalism inferno style…

  • i know…right…lol.

    • Chris Dangerfield

      Yeahhhhhh… but then he sends the giant floating eyeball (George) to keep an eye on you… literally. Bummer, and really difficult to explain on a first date.

  • Syncx

    …….I wonder if Anne might try to PUNISH Kyle for burning him seeing as Kyle is still tied to the bed

    • Denise Cruz

      Well… I don’t think so… He wouldn’t be SO freaking stupid!! Besides, he’s probably more interested in HOW the kid did that to him…

      • Syncx

        True but what better way to get answers then interrogation

        • Denise Cruz

          I have absolutely nothing against it! I’m the most curious person you ever heard about! 🙂

    • You mean if he can stop being a weenie long enough about his burnt arm? 😀

      • mogoskier

        Hey give him a break. This is probably the first time in decades that somebody has hurt him without cheating. He in shock.

        • Oh no doubt about it, but if he’s going to be the *trumpets blaring da dada DA!* Annihilator, he needs to put on his big boy pants and stop being a weenie. 🙂

          • Jamie Dutton

            Lol, don’t you mean his big boy tights?

          • Ha! You are most correct. I should fix that Fixed it.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            I do like a fella who can fill out his big-boy tights! 😛

          • I hold no doubt!

          • Steven K.

            Kyle just needs to be able to put on some pants period.

        • Syncx

          But for such a pompous guy you think he’d know how to deal not like someone broke then spit on this heart like he’s done and most likely wasn’t the first time he’s done it seeing how good he was at it

          • Steven K.

            Ditto!

      • Syncx

        True I wonder if Kyle could do that because he was in hell or did his anger towards Anne power him up

        • Someone postulated that maybe he always could, but had either subconsciously held back because of what happened to him when he was twelve, because he’s never wanted to hurt anybody. With his anger, with his desire to truly stope Duncan from unleashing a horde of demons, he may have broken through that wall.

          It’s also been wondered, if being in that hell realm, a fire realm, allowed the power up.

          It could be a mixture of both. Being angry and being there gave him that strength. I just wonder if now that’s he’s out will he keep the power up.

          • Syncx

            I hope so I think Duncan could use a tan seeing he’s planning to rule a nation he should look the part

          • HA!

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Yeah… bad Duncan… no muffin!

          • Definitely no muffin to go with that bad coffee.

          • Steven K.

            HA! I hope so too!!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Well, Kyle needs to get a LOT stronger. He’s a wimp against Duncan’s physical strength. And Duncan is also immune to Kyle’s only power — fire.

            So Kyle needs to get stronger somehow or he won’t be able to do shit against the Annihilator.

          • Unless, Duncan is no longer immune to Kyle’s fire. If Kyle has leveled up or if he’s no longer afraid of using his power, especially against someone like Duncan, Duncan may be in trouble.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Yes, a lot of “ifs”. We’ll have to wait and see if Duncan is still immune to fire – my guess is that he is because he used to be. So it remains to be seen whether Kyle has become stronger with his fire.

          • Duncan may still be immune to fire, just not Kyle’s. But you’re right all we can do is see what happens in the next pages/chapters.

          • wait are we 100% Duncan doesn’t also have super strength himself because we’ve seen him do some pretty crazy acrobatic and la la la whatever moves that I know of zero people who could pull that off…but hey maybe I should have been paying more attention to like, say this:

            http://youtu.be/NX7QNWEGcNI

            and maybe less to this

            http://youtu.be/zfm_qtMOz7E

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Wait… let’s go back in time to that “penetrative” sex discussion. All of us are postulating who’s powers are up, who’s are down. Don’t you think this would be a really smart time for Duncan to try to stick his potentially (?we don’t know?) vulnerable and potentially (?) delicate penis inside a nuclear sphincter-reactor?? Just wondering?

            Kyle (if powered up… and I know he’s a tad cranky…) might just be mad enough to think… “Hmmm I wonder how hot I can get things back there? … Like center of the sun hot? Hey, let’s try?”

            Now normally, being the sweet fella I am, I’d call out in warning, “Don’t do it Duncan!”, but in this case I’d like to pursue the scientific method and see if Duncan’s… erm… more sensitive bits can stand up to the super heat of a furious Kyle-sphincter.

            Hey KIDS! In the spirit of science! Who’s in? Let’s see some hands in the air!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            If it didn’t occur to Duncan before, I’m sure it does now that he got burnt!
            And if it doesn’t, instead of holding his arm all the time he will be holding something else! 😛

          • I don’t think they need to be having sex for Kyle to aim for the precious. If he’s cranky enough, he might just take aim and FLOOM! Duncan’s going to be in the burn ward for the villainous having to regrow his hair and maybe hoping for super healing to kick in.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Haha, that’s a good way of calling it Admiral.

          • Must protect the precious.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Indeed… his “preeccccccioius” LOL

      • Sapfo

        Your sympathy shines 😉

        • *snicker* I suppose I expect a little less weenie (behavior) from someone calling themselves the Annihilator. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            I still think he’s in shock. Major kick in the head for someone who’s valued his strength and invulnerability more than anything for most of his life, getting manhandled like that.

            I’d like to think it would lead him to a paradigm shift and a re-evaluation of his life, but I’m not holding my breath 😛

          • Oh indeed. Here he is, the most feared supervillain and he just got served, not just by a 12ft demon, but by sweet little Kyle. Probably never expected that in a million years.

            I’m hoping he does have that lightbulb moment. But like you, I’ll keep breathing while I wait. 🙂

          • Chris Dangerfield

            One can hope.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            *applause*

            Indeed, that is a bit of a monicker to live up to.

      • I am just happy I am no longer the only one thinking this.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Punish him how?
      Let’s betray him and use him to open a doorway to hell to sell out Earth for health and immortality…oh wait, did that. Oh I can lie to him and promise a fantastic night of passion and um, whoops did that too. At this point I’m not sure what else can be done to poor Kyle there. He’s in such shock I doubt anything else would get through to him 🙁

      • Syncx

        Well yah but Kyle still has his verginity , to have that taken by some one who put him through all that I think it CAN get worse

        • Steven K.

          Virginity …of SORTS. Penetrative virginity perhaps – whereas sexual virginity, I think he, unfortunately, can’t claim that anymore.

          • Syncx

            True but being raped isn’t just penetrative it also takes a mental affect it’s scaring , were as sexual virginity I’m glad it’s out off his reach doesn’t deserve it

          • Steven K.

            I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I meant that Kyle can’t claim to be a sexual virgin anymore – in my opinion he definitely had sex with Duncan – so Duncan did take that from him. But you still could say that Kyle is still a virgin to penetrative sex – and yes, it’s one bright spot that Kyle wasn’t quite raped, though I do still think that what was done to him after that spell was cast counts as sexual abuse and molestation – he never consented to be bound naked and further used in that state for Duncan’s purposes and ogled and fondled by a demon, even if he did/does turn out to be related (some here have thought that that makes it even more creepy) – and I think all that still could very well affect Kyle psychologically.

          • Syncx

            O.o your really smart , I agree with what your saying but it’s translated biffrwntly for everyone so let’s agree to have similar and diffrent translation on this one 🙂

          • Chris Dangerfield

            I would agree that SK is a very smart man, and also that there are too many intertwining bits of this conversation for me to contribute very much to it.

            So, I just have a couple of real thoughts. One is that what one calls a “sex act” is just nomenclature and, in the end, doesn’t matter too terribly much.

            As one who “put it about quite liberally” in his youth, I’ve learned one thing that I do believe today. The quality of all sexual acts lies in your relationship or lack thereof with your partner.

            When any sex act become less satisfying than good masturbation session… well then that is usually a sign to me that a retreat and some self-reflection is in order, because real quality intimacy, which does and doesn’t include all the sex acts contained in the Kamasutra, is entirely dependent on how you feel about and connect with your partner. Totally my personal opinion, and no judgment of an other viewpoint implied.

            Regarding rape definitions… the events of this graphic novel have made me realize there is a world of difference between the highly varied definitions of what constitutes physical “rape” for different people and VIOLATION. For me, VIOLATION is the real issue, the thing that scars and changes us, usually not for the better. VIOLATION is the thing that requires the most recovery from. It is often physical, often sexual, but it sure doesn’t HAVE to be.

            So IMHO, that’s where I’ve come to with definitions and vocabulary. I do agree they are tough concepts to think about and tougher to pin down because the minute you think you have it nailed… they slide away from you again.

          • Steven K.

            I envy you, past and present, more than you can possibly imagine.

          • Syncx

            …okay

          • Steven K.

            Hey there – I actually was saying NOTHING WHATSOEVER about being raped or the definition of that, or what constitutes that, which has been explored quite a bit on earlier pages, etc. I was just giving my perspective about what constitutes “having sex”, and thus a related “loss of virginity”, and then the distinction of “penetrative sex”. I was saying that Kyle had a type of sex with Duncan, so he lost his virginity with him, but he did not have penetrative sex, so he could still be considered a virgin to THAT type of sexual act specifically. I’m not quite sure what prompted the comment about rape (which I agree with), but that was not part of what I was attempting to analyze or clarify, and I made no assertions concerning that in recent comments.

          • huh…that is really funny because i’d think and i certainly feel the opposite…i don’t feel like there was really anything that sexual after the point that was actual summons and even building up to…now i have to go reread all those pages lol because i kind of felt like Kyle was just so freaking like literally physically repressed regarding his…wait…if Kyle accidentally triggered his flame abilities once when he was…what was he doing again…huh…got read that over too…but anyway…wouldn’t that time actually count as his first “sexual” time?

            i mean we could go all over the place here from, “Well intimacy and sex aren’t the same necessarily and so if we take “sex” to be the physical gratification then didn’t that happen once albeit accidentally for Kyle?”

            to

            “Isn’t intimacy dependent on interaction between two or more whereas sexuality is more individual in its base sense and if Duncan wasn’t honest with Kyle, is that even intimacy?”

            to

            “Blah blah blah whatever- oh look! shiny spoon!”

            speaking of which the red dot is back on the wall again…EVIL DOT!

          • Steven K.

            OK – a lot there to address. I think Kyle was physically intimate – close – literally speaking, but only falsely intimate in the emotional sense because Duncan was lying about his feelings and intentions, etc. Kyle was masturbating in that early experience when he suddenly “flamed on” during his orgasm and which resulted in the tragic fire, etc. – and the main reason he’s been repressed from even masturbating again, let alone finding anyone to have sex with, since he wouldn’t want to burn them or potentially kill them in a fire. Masturbation is sexual, or erotic, in nature obviously – autoerotic. When I’m talking about Kyle “having sex”, I mean having it WITH SOMEONE, and I def. think that what they did was have sex, just not penetrative sex. Now it feels like I’ve attempted to make this point already like a dozen times with different people, but I think that if you are totally naked, and another man is totally naked on top of you, and you are both fully hard, and the guy is grinding and rubbing his full and probably leaky erection onto and around and about and into your own (“smushing” them together was the term Alex used), to the point where you have a rather intense orgasm (though more “artificially” enhanced and extended in this case), I’d still say you just had sex with someone, Though I define sex more broadly than others – some say an orgasm of at least one part has to be involved – I don’t agree with that – I’d still say it was sex even if Kyle didn’t get get off. I think if 2 people are anally or vaginally or orally copulating, it is still sex, even if they stop before an orgasm. Some people define anal sex as sex. I think oral SEX is still sex – otherwise it would be called “oral foreplay” or something, right? Actually, I think if 2 people masturbate one-another, that is a form of sex – that would be manual-genital sex. Oral sex is oral-genital sex. What Duncan and Kyle did is genital-genital sex, just not PENETRATIVE genital-genital sex. Oral sex can be penetrative or not as well – licking a penis vs. “sucking” one or taking it into the mouth – or licking a woman’s vulva or clitoris vs, inserting a tongue inside the vaginal orifice. Differing types of “intimacy” is another discussion.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Very well said, Steven. 🙂

          • well we must agree to disagree then i guess right?

            for me if there’s no actual intercourse (by which i mean like…yes penetration or whatever you want to call it) i just don’t see that as sex…

            lying naked on top of another guy and just rubbing my body against his sounds incredibly boring but hey…maybe i’m just bored with “conventional” sex then…who fucking knows…

            as for oral…that bores me too i guess…but again, problem could just be me and that i’ve had just well…heck i must say i lost count in college probably so by now i just honestly have no idea anymore…

            as for _Intimacy_? now that’s a whole different ball game and if you want to bat a couple rounds of that, i’m down.

          • sorry…must have forgotten to reply but

            NO.

            No, I do not agree at all that frottage is sex…I’m sorry, it’s just foreplay to me but most definitely not intercourse and that is what I understand “sex” to technically comprise.

      • Steven K.

        So VERY much agree!

      • Denise Cruz

        So agreed!!
        What else could happen to that poor baby?!

  • Amanda

    I want everyone to know that I practically had to make my own deal with Laampros to finally be able to post comments from my laptop here.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Glad you could join us in the comments Amanda 🙂

    • jreed3842

      If I made a deal with Laampros it would be to get updates for The Young Protectors whenever I wanted them! Haha.
      I don’t really have anything cool to offer him though. I have like some pocket lint and spare change. Maybe he’d like that, lol.

      • Steven K.

        I’m sure you might have some “human flesh” he might enjoy exploring the limitations of.

        • jreed3842

          Hmm… If I were getting updates for Young Protectors whenever I want… that may be a deal I’m willing to make. Haha.

        • that only works in certain respects…it’s not amusing or interesting if everyone does that…so probably like one person could get away with that…the rest would have to write gaint or well-executed or something to the effect of a super creative statement saying exactly how such would be accomplished because…uh yeah…wouldn’t want to waste one’s precious time repeating the same thing like 6 billion times…blah.

    • why…because laptops are less secure?

      • Amanda

        It was weird, I could read Disqus on other websites, Like over on Boned (Awesome by the way) it never went out, but here and on Starfighter it would never come in for me to comment on. But if I used a browser other than Internet Explorer it works fine, so now I am having to use Mozilla to comment.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Hi Friends,

    Must go to bed, but wanted to report that I was lucky enough today to meet Alex, at his Yaoi911 booth, at Bent-con. Even after three days of hard work and being nice to eccentric geeks like me, he looked young, cute and fresh as a daisy. VERY UNFAIR.

    Of course, I bought a second copy of ARTIFICE for a Christmas present and had to let the line behind me belly up to the booth to give him money.

    His booth was very classy and (SERIOUSLY) the quality of the art was head and shoulders above what many of the other artists were able to share at the other booths (talented people, but still). I hope he and Winona, Adam and Veronica are very proud of what they’re doing. Even at a packed convention, it stood out.

    I promise I tried to pump him for WoG details and his lips were zipped. He wouldn’t spill a thing, I even went and borrowed a young cute boy from the next booth and he still wouldn’t spill any secrets (totally teasing). Humph. He’s tough. LOL

    I also tried to get him to angle slightly to the right so I could snap a picture of him surrounded by the giant Tom Of Finland penis display, but no such luck. Alex was on to my not-so-crafty ways.

    So just take my word for it, Alex is as nice and cute as you imagine he is and, if you have a chance to meet him at a con near you, be sure you go visit. You’ll have a great time and the only thing at risk is your money ’cause there’s lots of good swag to buy. Had a great time.

    All my best,
    ChrisD

    • SofiaT

      I’m so jealous. 😀

      The San Diego Comic-Con is on my bucket list, so hopefully I’ll make it there one day and will be able to meet Alex in person.

      Thanks for the update -I laughed reading of your antics. But I’m not surprised Alex was tight-lipped and didn’t spill anything. (Dammit).

      I hope you took a photo with him?

      Have a goodnight Chris, and I wish you dreams filled with Deacon and an unchained and happy Kyle!

      • Sapfo

        My bucket list also. Maybe we meet there in the future 😉
        And Chris I’m green with envy 😛

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Make sure you really plan your Comic-con journey far in advance. Since Hollywood took over, it is mammoth. Good fun, but a real zoo. Bent-con is big and fun and busy, but still homey compared to Comic-con.

        You should absolutely go, but be prepared it’s HUUUUUUGE! 🙂

    • Feverfew_M

      Ha, yes, we’re going to take your WoW (Word of Worshipper) for it!
      Sounds like you had a really fab time. Do you have pics? Did you take a photo of the Tom of Finland display? (<3<3<3) Do you have a tumblr?

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Sorry, I didn’t get all picture happy… with the prominent showing of a very LGBTQ crowd… you never know who’s out and comfortable and/or not and I worked the weekend before going over, so I didn’t have the bounce to ask everyone’s permission… but pull out your ToF coffee table books and just imagine really big poster versions, and you’ll be just about right. *smiles*

        • Feverfew_M

          Will do! 😀
          And I totally understand, of course.

        • and then this one makes me want to nuke the Internet because i sincerely hoped we’d be past all this by now…so demoralizing…

          • SofiaT

            Hey, there’s been progress. Don’t give up 🙂
            But people will always have closets they need to get out of (on their own, without being forced to). Chris has a point. And not just about sexuality, although that’s a closet that will be destroyed soon, I hope. Did you see Ash Beckham’s excellent TED video?

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Sorry. Try not to feel bad. It might have been just fine. This was just me being hesitant. No one there was anything but lovely. One just never knows who’s parents know what. I write all kinds of kinky stories… erm… I’m fine with that.

            That said, do I want to discuss them all with my 75 year old mother. Ummm she’s great, but I’m not sure that a BDSM chat over a latte is exactly what we need. Hmmm… maybe I’m a coward.

            So don’t take it hard. If I had asked I’m sure there were plenty of flaming bright lights there who would have posed for me quite happily now that you mention it.

            Me? Shy? Wow, I never thought about that. 😀

          • well…i guess i can understand that perspective a little more now that you wrote what you did…i know that as a pretty much 100% sadist i…well…see that’s the thing…if a sadist tells everyone he’s a sadist that totally ruins all the fun because…well…i guess technically i’d need to duplicate myself at least once at like fucking conception and then run two parallel tracks such that in one i say from the get go just, “Hi, I’m Daniel, nice to meet you” and then proceed to horrible torture you to death with no explanation and then compare that to the track in which i say “Hi, I’m Daniel, I’m a total sadist” and then proceed to horribly torture you to death…and then run some statistical comparisons to determine which was more “fun” or whatever…but why stop there?

            let’s add the parallel track where we mix it up and sometimes i say i’m a sadist and sometimes i don’t-

            oh we need another track!

            one in which i say i’m a sadist, i sometimes don’t, and other times i lie…

            oh and another track is needed to….

            Do you see what I’m getting at?

            I can’t possibly comprehend at present the full magnitude of the conjecture because it requires more lives running parallel than I have access to at this given moment.

            All I know is that in this life, people constantly appear utterly terrified of me most of the time as it would seem (and I reign in my sadistical wishes massively…to the point where I just don’t mention it period because I’m willing to let it go in favor of some pedestrian conversation or whatever…so I’m genuinely perplexed because I’m like…I’m not really at this particular moment plotting your brutal demise…in fact if anything I’m contending with my weepy self that is overly emphatic about everything so I’m just usually just like, fuck it, too much drama for me, I can’t enjoy myself through all the emotional spikes)

            Let’s all be real here-

            Who the hell is capable of sitting calmly next to someone who is gleefully plotting their horrific demise and can not only have a civil, decent conversation, but can also be happy, charming, and engaging?

            (masochists are automatically excluded because if we’re being real, no sadist would be interested in torturing a masochist that would be like asking me if I want to put a stick of butter on top of my other stick of butter and just leave it all out in the sun…uh no…I have no interest in such inanity, also I sincerely doubt that there are those who would actually sit still next to me knowing full well what I intend).

            The fact of the matter is, I’m not really embarrassed or ashamed of any of this…I just don’t like being alone and it seems to be me that it is this very aspect that it is that drives people away and rightly so…I mean…sure…I’d run away from me if I knew…well…I’d never torture myself because…well that’s a different story but whatever…anyway…no…

            At the end of the day I think we’re in two different libraries.

            I’m in one in which I’m okay with the fact that I might never really become myself and I’ll just be some book that people interact with but you know what?

            My entire life has been one of watching interaction after interaction crumble into dust and fall as person after person pulls away…is it so wrong to just want to know what life is like when that isn’t so?

            I don’t want to conjecture as to what your library is like but if I had to guess, I’d say that yours is one in which you get to do whatever you please as you exist as both a redacted version and the explicit version…but I don’t know you so what do I know…see with me it’s all or nothing…

            I won’t edit myself away piece meal for anyone because I’m not just okay with all of my selves, we all get along well except when Whiny starts crying which is really annoying..its the people around me who aren’t it would seem, so yes…I conceal a self, as I’d rather let him be by himself and the others flourish wherever than take us all down for nothing…

            Except that’s exactly what I’ve done haven’t I…

          • Howdy Daniel,

            I’m just in from a very long trip back from BENT-CON. and there are a lot of comments to catch up on so I might be missing something, but when you say things like “then proceed to horrible torture you to death with no explanation” as being something potentially “fun” and that “masochists are automatically excluded because if we’re being real, no sadist would be interested in torturing a masochist” and “The fact of the matter is, I’m not really embarrassed or ashamed of any of this…I just don’t like being alone and it seems to be me that it is this very aspect that it is that drives people away and rightly so…I mean…sure…I’d run away from me if I knew…”, is this actual personal sharing of something you would really want to do in real life? Is this something else?

            I’m not following the connection from what Chris D. said, so please help me out here.

          • Certainly.

            First that was one persona, I’m another one, he doesn’t really feel like talking right now…anyway, I think he was making an extreme statement about sadism, the masochism comment was a remark on the fact that, at least to him, it’s not satisfying if the target is “wanting” to be hurt per ser but rather that the target doesn’t want to be hurt…that’s all

            Anyway, I think another persona took over and was complaining about how the aggressive/sadistic aspect of another persona repels people, obviously….

            Sometimes I’ll mediate between them but lots of time I’ll just let one succeed another…since they do it really fast it usually doesn’t bother me.

          • Thank you for your response, Daniel. Your explanation of the masochism comment was what I thought you meant too.

            I’m still not really sure what you mean when you talk about different “personas”. Are you talking about something like moods here or are you currently experiencing something akin to dissociative identity disorder? Are you talking to anyone else about these personas?

            I suppose my larger question is, fantasy aside, is there any chance that you are in danger of seriously hurting yourself or someone else in real life?

          • yes, i get tired of keeping up with whatever is the latest and greatest clinical diagnosis as for example, in my case i only partially dissociate (just enough for one or more alters to come to the forefront but present enough to be aware of the experience…kind of like being a prisoner in your own body…it’s quite demoralizing at times and not at all entertaining like presented in popular culture.

            yes, i don’t attempt to hide the alters it’s just that it’s hard to describe or articulate them unless one of them is dominating and in such cases, i usually get suppressed.

            as for potential threat, given that i’m aware and vigilante in these matters, i think i pose much less danger than someone who just goes postal one day because i must constantly curb one or more of them…for the most part the issue is that the other personas slip to the surface in casual conversation, particularly in my writing of even basic text (i usually have to reread what i’ve written multiple times to make sure i’m not going too far on the limb).

            thanks for asking 🙂

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Ahahahahahaha… Feverfew_M

        Sorry, I didn’t want to take pictures in a very mixed room of LGBTQ folk, not knowing who would mind or who was “out” or maybe “not comfortable”???

        I already sent someone the link to the Tom Of Finland foundation… just the foundation link gave them a heart attack. LOL.

        Tom of Finland — 1920-1978.

        Tom was the grand-daddy of the hyper masculine artists, that put unrealistically sexy and masculine men together in sexualized poses long long before it was common. I’m with Alex and others who like Bara more than those perfect guys with a penis bigger than “a babies’ arm holding an apple” (thank you Tubes). Still, Tom of F. holds a place in my heart for being a trail blazer of pride and for showing gay men in a masculine rather than exclusively feminine light and, for some of us growing up and trying to define ourselves, that was important to know we could be gay and define ourselves in whatever way was right for US. It used to be harder to do before the internet was there to provide so much information.

        Wiki (tame and informative):
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_of_Finland

        Tom of Finland Foundation: (NSFW at all)
        http://tomoffinlandfoundation.org/foundation/N_Home.html

        Somehow it just figures he came from a part of the world near our own Sapfo. 🙂

    • wow…that makes me feel…stupid for missing Bent-Con as i live in OC so…huh…oh well…

      …it’s like there is never enough time in the day for whatever-

      That was a really awesome comment/post ‘cuz it gave a very strong impression of your personal experience…

      so now I guess this is the part where I say, “And therefore, I really never needed to go because I got to read accounts of others and saw pictures…so ? yay Internet ?

    • I’m so envious. That’s the worst thing about living in Europe when it comes to many comics. It’s damn hard to get to a con in US and meet the artists. There’s a good handfull I really want to meet, but the chance of doing so in the next years are very slim 🙁

      Maybe one day. I can dream, right?

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Keep dreaming Wolf! I have at least 5 authors in the UK that I’m determined to meet. Some I haven’t even begged a real name yet, but their work is so good, I shall track them down one day and fanboy all over them.

        We have to keep up the hope!!!! 😀

    • Sapfo

      I’m more interested in something else. Alex, did our dear Chris behave? 😉

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Whhaaaahahaaahahhaaaat?

        Sapfo, what kind of question is that? I was the soul of good behavior and discretion… other than the crying and yelling as I lay in front of the booth kicking, screaming and begging for inside information on Kyle’s parentage.

        Other than that… I was an angel. Of course. 😀

        • Denise Cruz

          XDDDDD Please, tell me they had security cameras there and have it all recorded and saved!! XDDD
          (I wonder what would’ve been Alex’s reactions, facing such a scene… XDD)

        • Sapfo

          I guess Alex thought it was sweet because he did not mention that detail. but Chris, how did you think? you could just have gone as your old avatar…. Just saying

      • Denise Cruz

        The perfect question!! lol

    • Feverfew_M
      • SofiaT

        Well spotted! Thanks Fever. I very rarely check my twitter feed these days, I would have missed it. 🙂

      • Denise Cruz

        He looks so cute! Seems to be really happy right there! That’s good! ^v^
        Nice picture!

    • On on the road back home and using my mobile, so I can’t really do your awesome and very kind comment justice with my response, Chrus, but I wanted to say it was a great pleasure meeting you (and so many others!) this weekend. Makes all the hard work totally worth it to hear back from y’all and get to see your smiling faces.

      Thank you so much for stopping by! I’m still grinning thinking about those of you came by. I really am so lucky to have such awesome readers. 😀

    • Denise Cruz

      I’m SO jealous!! I live in South America so, unfortunately it’s very difficult to me to get knowing Alex… >~< That sucks!

      This is the first webcomic I'm reading and I'm completely in love with it! So, nothing more natural than wanting to know the author, but… well… maybe someday… ^v^ I hope so!

  • Sapfo

    got a question on my last job interview, “What do you do in your spare time?”
    How should I answer it?
    “Yes, I usually spend some times a week by sit in front of the computer to wait for a new page from a webcomic… Talking to people I never meet…?!”

    So what do you think I said? 😉

    • ‘I spend a lot of time with friends, and we talk and debate about common interests. What interests you ask? World politics, ethics, mythology, right vs. wrong, character psychology.. oh and humor, movies and comics’.

      • Sapfo

        add book club and you are absolutely right 🙂

        • Feverfew_M

          Ha! Maybe that was also Alex’ inspiration for that name!? Is it red? ;D

          • Sapfo

            No,but that would have been a litle to fun xD

        • BOOK CLUB.. how could I have forgotten to add that one? I must have been more tired than I realized to have forgotten to mention anything about books *lol*

        • Steven K.

          Didn’t mention spending inordinate amounts of time searching the shadows and crevices on certain webcomic characters for giant red phalluses? (Or is that phalloi – Sofia?)

          • SofiaT

            Phalloi Is the correct plural in Greek. But I imagine in the anglicized version “phalluses” would be accepted too.

    • Derkins

      Tell ’em you’re “project oriented.” You make little goals, and follow the heck through on ’em. 😉

    • dereule101

      “None of your f’ing business!” Is what I would….think privately to myself.

      • Sapfo

        I think that might be a bad idea if I want the job. But I wish I could

  • Thank you! I’m so glad you’re enjoying our work! Please let me know what you think of your The Young Protectors print!

  • Derkins

    Ok, so, if anyone is interested in my typical mythological analysis of what’s going on, I’ve mustered up another little rant. I went through all of the stuff about Kyle as the fool and Anni as the “enemy,” tricking the hero, snatching him out of his safe and closed off existence, and throwing him headlong into the story. I’m really glad I already identified Anni as the death archetype, too, because he’s embodying it perfectly in all of this. Because death as an archetype really isn’t about dying. Death is represented by snake shedding its’ skin (why it’s a symbol used in the garden of eden) or the moon shedding its’ light, re-born. Birth out of the safety and stillness of the womb (represented by eating the apple in the garden of eden. looks like in this case it’s having naughty time with Duncan) and becoming self aware in a world of opposite forces. This death motif is often represented by the hero going underground and coming to the surface again. This is Jonah in the belly of the whale, it’s Luke in the trash compactor 🙂 and getting tempted by the dark side, and Frodo and friends in the dwarven tunnels, and the story of Persephone, who is stolen away to the underworld, or Inanna visiting her sister in the Underworld (Sumerian myth). There are so many examples. Naturally these situations bring about a choice that has to be made, which Kyle is facing now. Which is why this is relevant. The darkness and the devil alike represent the untamed beast that is the subconscious, that must be controlled by the conscious mind. As you can imagine, one either resists these situations, or they submit to it, and are consumed by it. It’s the difference between Luke and Darth– one who has fought it intellectually, and one who has embraced it. There is also what happens to Gandalf, who is like a phoenix claiming his own power (or assimilating that of the fallen enemy), or becoming a complete person, after rising from the shreds of his body, dashed from the battle with his own personal demon. One can denounce it, fight it, or submit. So! Will Kyle be like Luke (who wins his father over in the end), and deny the claim that Llampros has laid on him? Will he be like Gandalf (or like Aang at the end of Avatar), and nearly destroy himself in confronting the foe, but become invincible in the process? Or! Does he go the way of Aniken and give into the power that Llampros is asserting over him? Though I think we can pretty readily discount that one. Kyle just isn’t the sort. 🙂 Either way, we should know shortly which is the path that we’ll be watching, and right now we are standing on the threshold of Kyles rebirth. And by the way, the world we’re born into isn’t always a fun one!

    • Very nice!

      • Derkins

        Thanks! ^.^

    • Steven K.

      Hey – I know you are talking archetypes and everything, so I understand those points, etc. Just wanted to throw in my couple cents about Gandalf. As one of the Maiar (as Olorin), he was already an immortal being, even more-so than the elves (sort of akin to being angelic) – though his initial incarnation in middle earth was a physical body that could be harmed with enduring great strife and wounding. In his battle with the Balrog, he was fighting with a being akin to his own kind (angel vs. demon, in a sense). Olorin was a Maia of Manwe, whereas the balrogs were maiar of Melkor/Morgoth. It was only such a formidable enemy that could have been a match for him. But Gandalf’s true nature was a powerful spiritual being, so his spirit was sent back to Middle Earth in a stronger raiment in preparation for potentially that ultimate battle to come against Sauron. Sauron was also of the same nature or type of being as Gandalf. I believe Sauron was originally a Maia of Aule, but then joined in the service of Morgoth to become his most powerful ally and his right-hand in terror (excepting only, I’d be willing to argue, Ungoliant earlier). It’s kind of a fine distinction that Gandalf wasn’t so much killed as his original incarnate form was destroyed, and his true form/nature/spirit passed out of middle earth for a time – or even beyond Arda altogether – though perhaps likely to the Halls of Mandos in Aman – to then be sent back, after a brief respite, to finish his appointed mission. Other Tolkienophiles feel free to tweak my assertions as necessary, as I admit that my knowledge is a little rusty

      • Derkins

        In the book he talks about going to the very brink. It doesn’t say it outright but it sound something like death, and I’ve heard other people interpret it that way. Either way he comes out of it as the White Wizard, as opposed to Gandalf the Gray. One way or the other you can’t deny he is “reborn” in that sense. I believe in the book it talks about him becoming imbued with the power to carry out his task, which is specifically to help Frodo. Just because one has an unending natural life doesn’t mean they can’t be killed. Elves are thought to be immortal as well, but they can certainly die in battle.

      • Derkins

        Haha, you remember all of that way better than I do. And I actually think you seem to be backing up a lot of what I’m saying, though admittedly it’s going further into Tolkein land than I had intended. It’s really been a while since I read the series, but I remembered the gist of it going something like that. Either way, he comes out of it as the White Wizard as opposed to Gandalf the Gray. He is “reborn” in that sense. He becomes imbued with the power to carry out his task, which he did not have before. The death symbol is not meant to be taken literally, though it is sometimes explored in that way in myths or stories. The other rants I went on a few pages back went more deeply into the associations belonging to the death archetypes, which are meant to signify a sea change or major transition in life. It means to look on the world in a new light, or enter into a new era, as Gandalf did as the White Wizard. When he lay next to the defeated balrog, he made his own transition, there on his own threshold. Of course the details are what make stories come to life, but archetypes and myths can give us some insight into the organization of the symbols we in every day life and every day stories. Self sacrifice and martyrdom are big parts of that picture for pretty much every hero we have come to love.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Wow, I’m impressed Steven. I’ve read the books several times and I can’t remember all that! :-O

        • SofiaT

          That’s because all this info is not in the LotR books, it’s in Silmarillion :0)

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I have the Silmarillion, as well as People’s of Middle Earth, Unfinished Tales, Tolkien Companion, The Hobbit. 😀

          • Steven K.

            Yeah – it’s mostly in the “Valaquenta” portion of the Silmarillion.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Maybe I didn’t express my thoughts correctly, Steven. I wasn’t asking where it was, but that you actually remember all of that. I’ve read all the Tolkien books I mentioned and can’t recall all that stuff as precisely as you. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            Thanks. Might be because it’s my favorite work of literature, though it’s been awhile since I’ve gone through it.

  • Looking at the donation bar and I realize the streak of wednesday pages might actually be broken this week. No wednesday camping since that would be about 24hours away. Must be the x-mas effect kicking in, and every one is as broke as me.
    *considers donating the literally $4 I have on my account right now until friday in hope bar makes it*

    On one hand the thought of no wednesday camping is sad, on the other hand it will give Alex a wednesday off after 17-18 in a row. What to do? What to do?

    • Steven K.

      I did chip in this time in case it was looking that way.

    • But if that page doesn’t go up on Wednesday I cannot change my disqus pic back until Saturday!!!! *cries*

      • dereule101

        Buahaha!

        • -_-

          • SofiaT

            you’re saved 😉

          • and just in time

          • Chris Dangerfield

            And now I understand the Disqus pic game. Thank you.

  • Melyssa

    That awkward moment when the King of the Devils leave and you are all alone with the man you were just having a sexy time some minutes ago…
    (In case someone wants to talk about my grammar, english is not my main languaje -.-)

    • SofiaT

      If you hadn’t mentioned it, I wouldn’t have known 🙂

    • Pup Ruff

      Don’t worry about the grammar. You nailed it. I’m just not sure awkward quite covers this. We may have to go to German to really describe how uncomfortable this is for them.

      • Feverfew_M

        Like “peinlich”? 😀

  • SofiaT

    Ha, someone else said the same thing a couple of days ago so, no, not just you. 🙂

  • It cannot be unseen. 🙂

  • Well since people are seeing something phallic in the flames in the last panel, I have to share my ‘can’t be unseen’ on this page (don’t know if it has been mentioned already).

    Panel 1. The way the shadows are painted around Laampros abdomen and the flames seen between his legs makes it look like there’s a huge slong hanging between Big Red’s legs… like bigger than it already (probably) is.

    I just can’t unsee it, and my eye go there every time I open the page and the top panels are all I can see xD *naughty mode on*

    • You weren’t the only one Danish. You weren’t the only one. ^_^

    • SofiaT

      Great. Now I can’t un-see that either. *headdesk*

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Yep, noticed that too.

    • Steven K.

      If that is a phallus of flame (with testes also) about Kyle, either it has kind of a “double-glans” on it distally, or it has some hind of knob-like growth on the underside just proximal to the actual glans penis. As for the Llampros-schlong, they could claim it’s just the extended shadow of his beard.

    • Sapfo

      Nonono, I did not see any of that until your comment. Big bad naghty Wolf!

      • *Kekekeke* Thank you ;D

      • Chris Dangerfield

        Sapfo… our delicate little flower. It’s so hard to see her innocence shattered so harshly…

        *falls about laughing*

        • Sapfo

          oh so sweet you are. I’m like a cactus flower, came near me and you’ll know how fragile I am 😉

    • Chris Dangerfield

      HA

  • I want to clear the air a little bit about those saying it has been a LONG time since Duncan has felt pain/been injured….I have been re-reading the comic and Duncan was injured in Hong Kong, only a week ago in comic time. http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch1-page-37/

    My comment two days ago about Duncan acting like wuss stands.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Yes you’re right. He got a beating in HK and cuts all over. Maybe not the pain of being burned, but it must have been painful too.

  • Steven K.

    I always thought it was interesting that the eyes of Laampros were all-white instead of all-black. Interesting bucking of more conventional – or at least more usual – depictions.

  • flame821

    Wasn’t sure if you saw your ad placement on QC, it was paired with another ad that made it unintentionally funny. https://twitter.com/shadow_k/status/399857957522796546/photo/1

    • LOL.. omg. That’s awesome. Nice catch.

    • davefragments

      AHA!

  • SofiaT

    My netbook browser tells me the donation bar is at $325, my iphone tells me is at $360.

    I usually like Mozilla more than Safari, but this time I’ll listen to Safari because it makes me feel better.

    • I’m seeing $360 now. It went up to $335 shortly after my comment about might not making a page, and now only $40 away. I’ll see my bank account later today to be sure I still have my few dolloars available. If it’s still necessary I’ll donate those and see if we get lucky 🙂

      • SofiaT

        I -finally!- got paid yesterday and donated my token $2 (yeah, ridiculous amount, I know) this morning, but this is going to be a tough month for me so I don’t know how much I will be able to spare… I usually try to donate small amounts often as more of a “thank you” gesture to Alex than anything that really makes any difference, but if I see it has trouble making it to the goal in time I might just add some more, hoping it will help to tip the balance. 🙂

    • Sapfo

      Mine is at 360. So yes, we can only hope now. Btw, is there a deadline?

      • SofiaT

        It’s Tuesday afternoon where I am but it’s still Monday night in the States… I imagine that if it reaches $400 by tomorrow morning Alex’s time (or even midday) the page will be up? *fingers crossed*

        • Sapfo

          We all cross our fingers. And thouse that can, give a dollar or two.

          • SofiaT

            Alex hadn’t set an official cut-off time but he says that if it’s something we’d like to have, for our peace of mind, then Tuesday 5pm will be appointed the last chance for a Tuesday night update, as (and I quote) “that’s when Alex tells the artists they have the night off”.

            However, despair not! If the goal is reached before Tuesday midnight California time, then we still get the extra page but a day late (For us. For him it will still be Wed/day when it uploads so… yay!).

          • Sapfo

            Good to know. It just felt that it could not be too close to Wednesday because they have to have time to complete the page.

          • SofiaT

            Exactly. 🙂
            I knew where you were coming from. And Alex said that if Veronica has a pressing Marvel assignment she needs to finish, he can’t ask her to put that aside for an extra YP page if it’s already Tuesday afternoon there and the bar is nowhere near its goal. Which makes perfect sense.

    • Yes, indeed I’m seeing $360 as well

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Should be $380 soon. 🙂

    • SofiaT

      Thanks Jakk! 😀

      I’m very grateful to all those who can afford to give regularly to YP so that we can all enjoy an extra page!

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        no need Sofia. I just hope we can reach $400

      • Indeed we are! My $2 went in last night.

  • Wohoo..we just made the bar = tomorrow’s page. Refreshed and message from Alex 😀

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      YAY!! 😀

    • I get to change the pic on Wednesday. I am soo happy. Take that dereule!!!

      And YAY bonus page ^_^.

      • dereule101

        Aww, bye-bye medieval Mama June picture. ;-D

        • Chris Dangerfield

          I didn’t even know there was an “avatar-off” (if that’s what it’s called). Other than Dokidokibaka having a very cool name… this is new… do you have rules to this exchange? How fun.

          • It was the results of the truth or dare chat the other day

          • Thank you for the compliment on my name. Translated it is pretty much heart throbbing/heart racing/etc (dokidoki) idiot (baka)….basically vaguely referencing the fact that I might be called an otaku

          • dereule101

            She chose a dare instead of truth. 🙂

    • Sapfo

      Good idea 🙂

  • Just out of curiosity, AT THIS MOMENT IN THE COMIC, who are you fave characters and which pairings do you like?

    My characters in order: Laampros, Spooky, Fly Boy, Kyle, Commander, George

    Well, I am no longer completely behind Laampros/Kyle, but I like Kyle/Spooky, Kyle/Fly Boy (and Kyle can wait for Fly to be legal) and I think also Kyle/Fluke

    • SofiaT

      I’m afraid to reply to this one…

      • Why so?

        • SofiaT

          Because Kyle has -literally- gone through hell on this date and he’s still tied up, something that a lot of the readers find deeply upsetting. And I don’t blame them. People’s hackles are raised, and rightly so.

          But I still like the idea of Kyle and Duncan together. I know it seems nigh impossibe after everything that’s happened, and it most likely is, but that’s the pairing I chose long time ago and I’m sticking with it.

          So now that I’ve said that, it’s likely I’ll get a few replies explaining to me why I shouldn’t feel this way. :o/

          But since I started this already, I may as well say that my favourite characters so far are Kyle (of course), Duncan, Spooky and the Commander. Spooky and the Commander is the other pairing I’m hoping for.

          I don’t like Sircea but not because of something she’s done, we hardly know anything about her, but because from the start I saw her as Kyle’s competition of a sort.

          I’m not crazy about Laampros either, he seems to me way more dangerous than he’s let on so far and not just because he’s a demon. But I do admit he’s a very interesting character and I do want to see more of him soon.

          I like Tsunami and I hope to see him happily paired with a nice boy some day. 😛

          Flyboy, I haven’t formed much of an opinion on, but I tend to like all of the YPs anyway. I don’t want to see him paired with anyone at this point, as he’s too young. For me, at 15, he shouldn’t be considered as a sexual interest of anyone yet. Maybe in a couple of years or so.

          That’s my contribution to your question. 🙂

          • Chris Dangerfield

            “Kyle has -literally- gone through hell on this date and he’s still tied up, something that a lot of the readers find deeply upsetting. And I don’t blame them. People’s hackles are raised, and rightly so.”

            I’m afraid a goodly amount of hackle raising that was referred to was my hackles going razor blade-ish directly after Duncan first betrayed Kyle after roughly a hundred pages of setting up such a vulnerable closeted boy (one I related to way too much, having been young and dumb and scared at 18) and in that moment of story shock, the idea of such a pair was so angry making for me that I wasn’t a very kind or fair Commenter… erm… to put it very mildly.

            The issue was, ultimately, that then (as well as now, if I’m honest) I don’t have the imagination to picture Duncan’s redemption completely enough or to picture Kyle’s forgiveness as mature enough to imagine such a pairing as anything but equivalent of taking back one’s abusive husband, while still sporting two black eyes and saying, “This time it’s going to be different.” (ahem) So, because I couldn’t envision such “a scenario” I was unfairly harsh on anyone for simply positing such a wish, even when they stated that it was unlikely. Kyle’s naivety and immaturity pushed way to many of my own memory buttons to be objective. It took some real time for me to understand that positing such an eventuality was NOT saying they wanted Kyle, with the black eyes, to go back for more. The good thing is that objectivity does come with time and help and hopefully people like Sofia and other feel safer in voicing those hypotheticals, on what MUST be a safe list…

            It took time and reflection to realize: One, that is what I was doing and, two, that is what “positing” is — it’s saying IF all these seemingly impossible redemptive events take place, I’d like to see such and so happen. And (ouch this hurts to say) but that was also where the pain came from, I always did have a desire for Kyle and Duncan to enjoy a relationship in some fashion — it seemed so fresh and unusual. Thus my anger as much at myself as anyone else. Can you spell displacement? Live and learn.

            So, I hope I have a better grasp on “what if” and that all the possibilities in THAT pairing exist in all these other requirements being met … I still can’t see how, so what’s new? So all I can say on that is NEXT PAGE/CHAPTER please!

            To answer Dokidokibaka’s (just fun to write) question properly: (today) I’d say my general interest is evenly balanced between Duncan/Kyle/Spooky, Laampros and Fluke… (and Sircea between scared fingers).

            And for pairings (again as of today) I keep wanting Spooky to dive in and get entangled in all this and teaming up with Kyle. I really would’t mind seeing a Kyle/Spooky pairing. As personalities they seem very much to have things the other needs as personalities and I think they might learn to understand each other well. I can imagine them arguing about who’s turn it is to clean up the kithen (“well I did the breakfast dishes it’s your turn!”)

            Finally: I’m so gay that I want Tsunami to get his eyes opened. I think he’s good people and he just needs the right enounter to learn to see gays as human beings, but listening to his language during the porn interlude made me want to sit him down for a serious talking to. I’m withholding judgment until after that talking to.

            Flyboy — I agree too young to do anything but admire from afar and wait… and, come on, do you really want to go on a date with someone who says, “Who are the Beatles?” 🙂

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Damn, you can write! when I clicked on “see more”, I couldn’t believe my eyes!!! LOL

          • SofiaT

            Chris, it really hurts me to see you beating yourself up like that. For whatever misunderstanding there might have been in some of our conversations, we’re both to blame. You didn’t understand what I was saying and I didn’t understand what you were going through. Idiots, the both of us. I think we’re both better at it now though, no? 🙂

            And if I’m ever an idiot again, you just let me know. No hard feelings.

            Also, I’d like to make something clear: I do not like having to defend myself and my opinions over and over but you weren’t the one who made me feel like that. You were just the unlucky bastard who happened to be there when I went “boom!”. And for that, I sincerely apologise. So please, do not think that when I issue subtle warnings like the one above, to let some things rest, they are directed to you. Mm? 🙂

            Now that we got that out of the way, I’d like to say… I would never date anyone who doesn’t know who the Beatles are! That should be a punishable crime. >:(

            And yes, I’d say Tsunami definitely needs to get out of that closet 😀

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Thank you and I promise I don’t self-flagellate even for those of you who might find that titilating. Absolutely done and I’m most fine.

            I do admit to liking to sink into my art emotionally, but this went further and it took me a while to understand what beget what. So I’m just sharing that journey. When so many hypotheticals are in the air, trying to discuss what we wish could happen and what we think is actually possible, IS tricky. So I promise the past is in the past. Thank you for being so gracious. LOL. I told the Admiral that in the future if she suspects my blood sugar of plummeting, she can offer me a muffin and I’ll understand. LOL.

            I just hope Tsunami gets some really really REALLY good sex. The kind that makes him forget about what his parents might think for a good little while. 😀

          • SofiaT

            One upvote for forcing me to google what “flagellate” means. I can now go to bed satisfied that I learned something new in the day that passed 😀

            ‘Night!

          • Chris Dangerfield

            Good night!

    • Klaus

      Favorite: Kyle. Pair: Kyle and Fluke.

    • silibub

      Oh, fun! Let’s see…

      To the surprise of absolutely no one, Sircea is my favorite — but I’m also very fond of Duncan, Kyle, Spooky, and Flyboy. When we see more of Commander I’ll probably like her a lot, too.

      Pairing-wise, I’m still open to seeing Kyle and Duncan end up together, depending on how the story plays out and whether Duncan can/will redeem himself. Otherwise, I think Kyle and Flyboy could be really cute! I’d also like to see Spooky and Commander together.

      And don’t hate me, but if Duncan were bi, and the sibling theory disproven, I would be totally on board with Duncan/Sircea. Mainly because of the image of their friendship/relationship I’ve built up in my head, but still. (Sorry, SofiaT!)

      • SofiaT

        *sigh* I forgive you. 😛

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I hope we can find out what’s going through Duncan’s mind in the next couple of pages.
    The guy seems to be falling apart. As Dokidokibaka pointed out, Duncan felt pain when he got beat up in HK, and also got cut up. He was surprised at first, but managed to fight even though he lost all his powers. Yes I can see that he would be surprised that he got burned by Kyle, but he knows he can heal quickly.
    And then, a supposedly smart supervillain making a deal with a demon to let an army of demons take over most of the planet.
    What the…?
    Could it be early onset of senility? Alzheimer’s perhaps?

    • Yes, he got hurt and his ego bruised a bit in HK, although some of that could’ve been by plan, to have a bad showing. Hey, I’m a rusty bad guy. For me, I think part of what’s happening here right now, is that this is so far off plan that he’s maybe in a bit of shock.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        I don’t think so, Admiral. I think the dampener took him completely by surprised, he wasn’t expecting it. Kyle came to his rescue in the nick of time. He may have actually saved his life. Chapter 1, page 47.

        • I’ll grant you that, but he didn’t seem as shaken by that as he is by this. But then again, maybe that’s because he got his powers back at the end and all was good. This, right now, it all happened despite his powers. So yeah, I guess two different situations.

        • SofiaT

          I wonder if the “saving his life” part will be of any importance in the plot later. In universes where magic is used, life-debts like that have a mystical meaning and are binding the two parties involved. Since magic exists in this universe… I wonder if Duncan is already tied to Kyle in ways he didn’t expect -or want.

          • I’d actually like to see something like that happening. If that were so, on could say that he was burnt by Kyle’s fire because of that tie.

          • SofiaT

            Hm. Why wasn’t he burnt before then? When the spell first became active? We saw Duncan being licked by the flames and staying unharmed.

            Unless intent matters and it required Kyle wanting to burn him for him to get burned.

          • That’s a good point. But then that could be the only reason he burnt him anyway, because he wanted to. Dang holes in my theories. 😐

          • SofiaT

            Not necessarily. In the Prologue, Kyle attacked Anni with his fire but he didn’t accomplish much, remember? I’m sure he intended to hurt him then. Surely not as much as he did after having experienced what he did since the spell was cast, but still.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I remember “Get off me!” or something like that. That’s when Duncan threw him up into the air.

          • SofiaT
          • True, but then, there still could have been a mental block on his abilities. He also many not have wanted to really fight him. Hmm… But then again, the fire that hit him from the spell may have just been fire from the spell, not Kyle firing fire at him.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            All the fire from the spell came out of Kyle, Admiral. I hope I’m not driving you crazy again with my arguments. 😀

          • That’s true, but it wasn’t being really directed from Kyle. It was basically neutral in that sense. The intent wasn’t there. So I’m back to poking holes in the idea that Kyle was able to hurt Duncan because of a magical connection from saving Duncan’s life. It is all based on intent.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            There could be something to that. 🙂

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I think Kyle was SO furious with Duncan that his fire power was at maximum then.

          • SofiaT

            *nods* That is a very real possibility. And of course the fact that he was in a fire realm could have increased his powers. Both are legit theories that have been debated at length. It could also be a combination of many factors, not just one.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I’m wondering if Laampros had something to do with it. Because not only did Kyle burn Duncan but he partially broke the chains binding him too. And all that was probably to Laampros’ advantage. So many possibilities, we don’t even know what Laampros is capable of.

            More waiting. 😐

          • SofiaT

            Laampros seemed impressed. I don’t think he’d be impressed with Kyle’s strength/will power if he had anything to do with it.

            A lot more waiting. :0/

          • Chris Dangerfield

            *ding*
            “We need an order of new-page with comfort and satisfaction, and include a side of Duncan lesson learning — all for table seven.”
            *ding*

            Hey! Order up!

            (an exhausted Alex rolls his eyes and begins to doodle rude pictures of chris doing rude and anatomically improbable things to himself)

          • Feverfew_M

            Hope these pics are going to be included in the book as a little extra… ;D

          • That all makes sense, but I don’t want to believe he powers down by being in the ordinary world… I want to believe he’s getting more bad-ass. I have no logic to base this on except personal desire. I fully admit that, but I want him to roast some deserving bootie… yep… I really do.

          • that was just a hand………….

          • EXACTLY … if it’s about intent, then that feeds into my highly graphic and rude joke/theory about Kyle being mad enough to make his sphincter hotter than the center of the sun (oh that was somewhere else)… 🙂

            Just thought I’d take any opportunity to be inappropriate and mention it again. *smiles innocently*

          • Steven K.

            Although after the initial spell while Kyle was having his climax, the fire and flames shooting out of Kyle were pretty well directed out of his extremities, and Duncan got up off the bed and out of the way VERY quickly. I think Duncan knew how the flames would generally be directed and he got out of the way of the rest so I don’t think he would have been harmed even without his fire-resistance.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            That is an interesting idea, too.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            That is an interesting idea.

        • Steven K.

          Although Duncan admits, after binding Kyle, that the HK attack was all staged, and probably even the power-dampening, though I don’t think Duncan was supposed to actually get hurt. I get the impression it was supposed to be all set up – kind of like professional wrestling – but it got a little more out-of-hand (a little off the staging) than Duncan had expected.

          • I’ve always been slightly confused by Hong Kong… so if that was a setup… were H&K in on the scam? Do they work with Duncan regularly or were they manipulated and they surprised Duncan. Clearly he was ready with the inviso-powder and he had to end up looking like a good guy to Kyle no matter what, because that was the entire point of the date.

            So what did HK know?

          • I think they were used. A quick slip of: hey, the Annihilator will be in Hong Kong. The rest, yeah, don’t know if the Duncanator knew about the dampener thing since things got away from him a bit.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            He said it got away from him. He tipped off Hunter and Killer that he was going to be there, so that he could look like a hero. But he wasn’t expecting the dampener thing. Kyle ended up being the one to save him.

    • Denise Cruz

      That’s what I was trying to say, few pages ago: He didn’t wnat to hurt Kyle; he did feel something about him, more than he had tought he could, (as it seems to be, from my pov), but, for some reason he still did such a stupid thing, hurting himself and someone else.

      For God’s sake! He is known for being smart and powerful. Why would he do something like that?

      Maybe he’s losing his powers through the years, while gets older and, finaly he’s no longer being able to keep on as he was always has been: strong and powerful. It probably would make anyone almost insane! Don’t you think?

      He’s weird acts, to me, look like desperation. A big desperation.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Still a full day away from a fresh YP page?
    Alex still at his local SPA, recovering from his tour de force at Bent-con?
    Haven’t been able to see THOR & LOKI yet?
    Need a Tom Hiddleston & Chris Hemsworth fix to keep the shakes down?
    Did you know Tom Hiddleston sings?
    We here here have you covered….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-6aFkialDM

    • SofiaT

      Tom Hiddleston sings, dances, rows, speaks French, speaks ancient Greek -and just to make me suffer more- I’m sure he can cook too.

      *sigh*

      • Feverfew_M

        Ain’t that guy just annoyingly perfect? I’m way too old for fangirling that hard!

        *sigh* indeed!

      • Denise Cruz

        I have to confess: I don’t even had heard about this guy, and I already like him! XDD

        • Have you seen Thor?

          • Denise Cruz

            No. I didn’t. Only some parts of it! ^v^ But I got to see Mr. Hiddleston on a link that @disqus_P2huBPd9nS:disqus put here! He’s freaking adorable! ^v^ So friendly and nice!

          • He played Loki. He also played Loki in The Avengers.

            That link made me a fan girl. I’m trying to decide how I feel about that. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Welcome to the club! XDD I still don’t know about it,too! lol

          • SofiaT

            C’mon. Who doesn’t love a great villain?

          • He’s growing on me. Each film he’s better. And now with the buzzfeed…. How do I fangirl over more than one?

          • SofiaT

            I always liked him more than Thor to be honest. Especially in the first movie, when Thor was just a brute.

          • I wasn’t a fan of his in the first Thor, but I think that may have been the director.

          • SofiaT

            Not a Kenneth Branagh fan I take it?
            The first movie was a bit “meh” in general, the only one worthy of any attention was Loki and his “I’m adopted and don’t fit but still seek my family’s approval while I try to take over the world because deep down (really deep down) I’m sensitive” attitude.

          • Oh I love Kenneth Branagh, maybe more as an actor :). I just found some of that movie a little… I don’t know how to describe what it was really. It was uneven I guess and kinda short.

            But then again, maybe for me with The Avengers he settled into the roll. It became trully his.

            I guess I just didn’t see that in Loki in the first movie. Maybe next time we watch Thor. Which we may considering I’m hoping to see it Sunday.

          • SofiaT

            The first Thor and the first Cap.America were very average movies because they were just setting the universe. The only “first” movie I liked, was Iron Man.

          • Ironman was the best of the firsts. Captain America… I had a fit afterwards because it was ALL FREAKING BACKSTORY. Sorry. Don’t we all know the backstory of Captain America? Couldn’t they have given a half and half story? It took several watchings for my little bro to actually make it through CA without falling asleep.

          • Total agreement… somewhere in my blab about the film, I mention that it’s achieves a really good balance of human emotion and SFX thriller.

            That is a LOT harder than it sounds. The second film somehow manages to play with the almost hyper-operatic nature of universal win/loss and these god-like beings and still have moments of real emotion. So it gets hyperbolic in the way a film like this MUST and, at the same time, manages not to get SILLY in the wrong places.

            All of that, IMHO, is so much harder than it sounds. Just think about all the super hero films we’ve all scene that are either entirely unemotional or just plain silly.

            Love Kenneth Branagh. I remember back when he was married to Emma Thompson they did Midsummer’s together, and it was beyond genius and side-splittingly funny for an American audience… a miracle on it’s own. So in his own realm he’s supremely talented. So I urge forgiveness. Leviathan films like THOR, IRON MAN, AVENGERS and such, are artistically fearsome artistic and technical beasts and that is WITHOUT studios and corporate politics.

            And how could anything in today’s day and age that costs north of $200m not be a political nightmare.

            So kudos to Alan Taylor I say!

          • Oh he transcends villainy in this one! He makes being bad so very gooooooood. 😛

      • Yep…. I’ll second that *sigh*.

  • Sapfo

    sitting in my car after a puncture on one tire. what a great end to the day. 🙁
    But tomorrow camping 🙂

    • *hugs*

      If it makes you feel better I woke up after only a couple of hours of sleep to cramps. I am going to try to take a nap as soon as it calms down a little.

      • Sapfo

        I am home now. So a quiet evening is what i need. Hope you feel better soon. *hug back*

        • Car evil and unwellness… you two take care. You have only a day+ to get into camping condition and we need everyone in top shape… so take care of yourselves!

          • Sapfo

            I be there! Always ready!
            (Hope my internet will hold up XS)

          • Eh, I will be fine, they usually only last for one day anyway. I just sometimes find the choice between cramps or nausea annoying.

          • Sapfo

            And tomorrow you get your old avatar back. Then you will be alright 🙂

          • Well I have since added some more pics to my inventory to choose from so now I am unsure whether I should go ahead and use my old one or switch it out.

          • Sapfo

            Good luck in your choice 🙂

  • purplefoxglove

    But but but…the eyeball? I want to know what’s up with the eyeball!!! Argh!

    I just noticed that Duncan’s entire arm seems so be glowing, it’s not only the symbols. Hand and forearm seem to have a nice, crispy brown air about them that they didn’t have right after Kyle burned him and it makes me go OUCHOUCHOUCH! Is the glow from the engraving spreading? Will we get a glowing Duncan? Or is it just reflections from the fire?
    Oh, and that’s some really amazing work on the fire! You can almost hear it sizzle and feel the heat on your face. Kudos to Veronica!

    • Allyne David Marins

      I think the eyeball is like Lampy’s ‘eyeball’ tho he doesn’t have any pupils, but I think it’s a ‘Nothing escapes my sight’ thing XDD well he rules the hell so, I thought the eyeball was about that

  • Holly

    Well Time to start the camp! *Settles in and goes to respond to old comments*

    • Jamie Dutton

      Yay, camping camping la la la la la laa
      😀

      • Holly

        So happy that I don’t have work tomorrow. Super tired, and I would have to skip camping. Once Christmas draws nearer, this will be the case though.

        Work at 9:30am most days

    • *joins Holly* Anyone want Hot Chocolate or tea? I have Cinnimon, White, with mini marshmallows, and plain hot chocolate. For tea I have Egyptian Mint, Chai, Earl Gray, Chamomile, Pomogranite, Orange teas.

      • Jamie Dutton

        Oooo, I’d like some Egyptian Mint, please.

        • *fixes Jamie the Egyptian Mint and hands it over* Careful it’s hot. I also think I got this in the organic section. Key word, think.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Mmmm, that smells fantastic! I absolutely adore mint tea, almost as much as cute guys kissing in the rain! 🙂

          • I am going to share my two great food/drink weaknesses. I will TRY anything that has either mint or pumpkin. Please note the OR, I am not entirely certain the two should ever go together.

          • Jamie Dutton

            Oooo, pumpkin! I found a recipe for the most delicious Pumpkin Snickerdoodles and one for scrumptious Pumpkin Cornbread! 🙂

          • Ooooh pumpkin snickerdoodles… RECIPE NOW!

          • Please! I second that. I have to bake this week.

          • Jamie Dutton
          • Thank you! Gonna try them this weekend. 🙂

          • Jamie Dutton

            Awesome let me know how you like them!

          • Thanks so much!

          • Will do!

          • Were I used to work had these absolutely delish pumpkin chess bars.

      • May I try some pomogranite, please? Or do you still have some left?

        • *fixes Gryphongirl pomegranate tea and hands it to her* Careful it is hot. ^_^

          • Sapfo

            Oh I love pomegranate tea! It was so long ago I had some. *big puppydog eyes*

          • *fixes pomegranate tea for Sapfo and hands it to her* Careful sweetie, its hot.

          • Sapfo

            Thank you love!
            (Having a good morning so far)

          • You’re welcome and that is great to hear. ^_^

          • *takes cup carefully* Thanks! Is it better with sugar or straight up?

          • Sapfo

            I think its best with no sugar, but I think its a matter of taste

          • Straight up, it is! Thanks very much.

          • I usually drink it straight.

  • Amanda

    Already I feel a need to start a “Bring George over” petition!

    • Jamie Dutton

      I wonder how Alex feels about George’s popularity?

      • He’s smiling that marvelous smile and shaking his head, I would think.

        • Jamie Dutton

          Alex does have a fantastic smile!

          • Holly

            SECONDED!

          • You’re a sweetheart, Jamie. 🙂

            (And both Alex and GFE are very pleased with the popularity. Maybe there will even be some merch for the next Kickstarter…)

          • Jamie Dutton

            That would be AWESOME!

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      How about a “George” key chain instead? I think George would look quite handsome dangling from my car keys.

      • Jamie Dutton

        I’d like to see him a set of barettes like the Japanese have 🙂

        • Amanda

          Key Chains, Barettes, Tshirts, Bras……George is an never ending source of marketing tools.

          • Denise Cruz

            @Amanda… Are you in love with ‘George’?! lol (I’m just kidding! No offense intended, ok?! XD)

          • We’re all in love with George.

          • Sapfo

            I think I like Clave a little more…..
            But I like Clave best when he is with his George.

          • Clave and Kathy earrings?

          • Denise Cruz

            Sorry! But this isn’t right! lol
            That thing gave me bad chills for over a week!
            I’m over it now, but I can’t say I’ll miss ‘George’! lol Again, sorry! 🙂

          • No need to be sorry at all! Different things creep out different people for different reasons. I will say that George was a very effective addition to that hellscape. He got his own name, people speculated at length as to who or what he was, and he creeped you out! I’ll bet you’re not the only person who feels this way.

          • Denise Cruz

            Thanks!! I can’t deny, although, that hes definately a great topic to discus about… to say the minimum.

            Lets see what happens but, something makes me believe that George’s still going to show up in the future. If it’s going to be a future near or distant, I’m not sure. 😉

          • Jamie Dutton

            Bras?
            *falls over laughing*

          • davefragments

            I second that reaction — George and his twin brother staring out at the world —

          • Jamie Dutton

            I’d like a necklace with Clave on it and maybe Kathy, if we ever get to see her.

      • A George keychain! 😀

        Plus, I’m sure it would confuse the hell out of people. Or at least people I know.

        • I would buy one, it would go with the YP one hanging off my purse

  • Holly

    I might give up on the camp and the virgin hunt. I AM SO TIRED that i can’t make straight sentences when I speak.

    • Would it help if I told you the page will be up a little early tonight? 😀

      • Holly

        Well if Alex is telling me to wait, then I guess I have to. 😛

      • Erff! But it’s Tuesday night or am I confused?

        • Double ErrrFFF! I’m confused. Sorry all. Not enough sleep last night…

      • OMG around here that goes beyond a tease and is practically a pick up line. LOL.

    • Sapfo

      Dont you worry Holly, I take good care of the virgin 😉

      • Holly

        ALEX HAS INSPIRED ME!!!

        • Sapfo

          Alex, what have you done.

          (Now I’m inspired by the most movies I’ve ever seen. raise my hands to the sky and scream)

          “NOOOOOOO!!”

        • This should be really entertaining. A sleep deprived Holly is like getting your friend really high and then letting their antics entertain you all night……

          erm….

          Not that I would EVER suggest such a thing. Erm… ’cause that WOULD BE BAD. *snicker snicker*

          GO HOLLY! GET THE VIRGIN! Look how smug Sapfo is being… don’t let her get away with it.

          WHAT? No… I would never incite rioting. It’s just encouragement… that’s right… encouragement.

          (and let the best human/android win!!!!)

          • Holly

            Are you going to try “inspiring” people today chris?!

    • Tea or hot chocolate Holly? I listed the flavors I have available under you post about setting up camp.

      • Have your new avatar picked out? Any teasers you’d like to share with our studio audience? 😀

        • There was one other I was thinking about other than going back to my old one. The art was really good and Sebastian had ears and a tail which is so kawai. I didn’t feel comfortable using an image that might suggest that I approve of an intimate relationship between and 12 year old and a demon. Even if it is only Sebastian and Ciel and there are A LOT of yaoi fan art of those two. I much prefer my Sebastian either alone or with Claude because DAMN those two are both individually sexy (Sebby just more so). I just also want to say, I do not ship Sebastian/Claude because….Claude just crossed some lines that him being sexy just isn’t enough to cover.

        • I much like the one I went with instead. There is just something so smexy about Kyoya without his glasses and a towel on his head. Of course when I first watched that scene I was blown away by it. Sooo was not expecting that kind of scene in a high school comedy anime. Kyoya is my favorite character in that anime. He is hot, smart, scary, cunning, loyal to his friends….he sends shivers up my spine. He is often referred to as Demon Lord #1. There is a funny part in the manga where Renge (the resident otaku) is going on about a rival for the host club and the twins are like “we don’t need an evil rival, we have Kyoya” Kyoya magically appears “did you say something?” the twins “shit! did he hear us?” He is just NOT the person you get on the bad side with…..he WILL destroy you. aka never do anything that causes him to act.

  • Sapfo

    For those who read the TH. I have long thought that Mr. Lamp and Laampros could become a nice couple. Mr. Lamp is green, Laampros is red, they are really Christmassy together.

    • This comment is so damn perfect that I can barely stand it.

      • Sapfo

        Chrismas is coming!

        (It feels like it should be Ned saying this, not me)

        • Steven K.

          “The goose is getting fat”

          • Sapfo

            Now you just making me hungry. Mmmm goose!

          • Holly

            Please put a penny in the old man’s hat

    • You are one funny lady. Coffee was just snorted!

      • Sapfo

        Thank you!
        So you know how Mr Lamp is?

  • Holly

    CHOCOLATE SODA SHOULD NOT EXIST!

  • Holly

    I JUST READ THE WHOLE TV TROPES PAGE!

    • How did you get out?

      • Holly

        I didn’t leave the YP page….

        • Smart

          • Holly

            I want to make incorrect entries about George and stuff.

          • HAHA!

          • Sapfo

            This makes me want to check it out 😉

          • Wait! If you go, you might not make it back!

            *throws a rope* Hang on to this and we’ll pull you back in.

          • Sapfo

            “NOOO, I was so close!”

            Wait, what is this…. a mind altering chip in the back of my neck. Who could have placed it there? Someone who wants to disturb virgin hunt perhaps?

          • Holly

            SHUSH YOU! you are ruining my plot.

          • Holly

            Damn it Gryph I blame you for this.

          • Sorry bout that…slow on the uptake.

          • silibub

            George can be the “Ensemble Darkhorse”

    • I can image the thoughts galloping through your mind, Holly, what with trying to stay awake and thinking about what’s going to be on the next page.

    • Adam Black

      and you made back….
      time machine?

      How many children do you have?

  • Sapfo

    Page is up good people!

  • Holly
  • So much to talk about re YP —

    But I must digress, because this is excruciatingly important. I just saw Thor (because I’m not a damn TimeLord, I don’t own a Tardis, nor am I Sofia who lives in the future and refuses to spoil *snort*). So anyway, just saw Thor: The Dark World.

    First ( in my own words *grins* ), I’m agreeing with everything Sofia said an ENTIRE week ago (arg)… Tom Hiddleston steals the movie and I want him to be gaygaygay and move in with me and I’ll explain the value of such a three-way to my beloved… Trust me, after Himself sees the film, he’ll get it and I’ll have no problems, except that we’ll buy a bigger bed. Now…

    Yowza, Tom steals that film and he does it FROM!!! Chris Hemsworth, who has a lovely scene without a shirt-tunic-breast-platey-thing on and is beyond lovely, I must say. I’ve paid attention to Marvel’s development (pre-Disney) and watched as they’ve worked to build themselves into the grand-geek-film-machine they’re well on to becoming. IMHO: this is by far the best THOR yet.

    Age is sitting well on ChrisH, and Tom is a perfect ageless illusion of a stinker. I shall say no more for fear of spoiling, (but oh how I want to). I’m tough on SFX films and this one does a really good job of balancing humanoid emotion and also SFX in all it’s fun multi-verse glory. So, for whatever reason YOU, personally, go to watch these geek films… go… I really think if you’re a geek you will have a grand romp of a time AND if you like human(oid) emotion in your film you’ll be pleased on both fronts.

    Somehow offline, there must be a bit of debate to be had with the ladies, because Friga and Sif kick some really nice ass and are smart, tough and (sorry no spoiling). Still, I must say that Natalie is still a bit damsel in distressish for me in 2013 and, other than a really good right hook, I wish our gal had a bit more of a role in the heroics of the film, and this is coming from a gay man so make of it what you will. That said, it in no way harms the film one tiny bit. Just something I thought, and I’m sure is being well and thoroughly discussed on a lesbian forum somewhere that me and my penis are not welcome. So ho-hum.

    *chris lets go of that concern*

    And, Sofia is right-on (still my words here). There are fun moments that a YP fan might indeed notice connections to… ideas, characters, themes and challenges. It’s really great fun to watch and think about. Hope you enjoy. I do think you’ll find it worth your time.

    * Oh, one last thing, THREE-DEE. I thought the 3D was well and tastefully done. Warning, I’m a fan of a light touch with 3D. I love the humor of DESPICABLE ME’s minions and that kind of 3D silliness, but as a serious film-making tool. I don’t want to notice it and I thought they did well here. So… there you are. For what it’s worth. Take care.

    Best,
    ChrisD

  • SpookyDomme

    There’s just something about this whole demon-deal that makes me want to yell “You are a stupid old man!” at Duncan.
    Despite him not actually being ‘old’ by my standards. Or stupid. Just desperate and rather sad.

    • Jeffrey Jacobson

      And stupid.

  • Mandy Marie Roswell

    I love how the demon’s private section is shadowed in there XD It’s like, “We want you to see how majorly well-endowed he is, buuuut he’s a bit shy, so we present to you… *drum roll* SHADOW PENIIIIS!”

    • Maus Merryjest

      Which should totally be a punk rock band name, too.

      • Mandy Marie Roswell

        The cover art for THAT CD will be interesting indeed

  • Lindsey Amethyst Hampton

    Now that they’re back in the real world, I just had a really horrible thought: Duncan is one of Kyle’s first boyfriends, and his first sexual experience since his powers came in. How is he EVER going to be able to trust anyone enough for more sexual experiences in the future? I mean, he is scarred for life.

  • Thomas Fenn

    Is there a reason there hasnt been a post in a month?

    • SofiaT

      Hi Thomas, there have been bi-weekly updates for the past 20 weeks!! 🙂
      Make sure you sign up to get an email notification so you don’t miss the new pages! Next update is tomorrow!

      Hope this helps 🙂

      • Thomas Fenn

        Crap i forgot the one thing i hate about this comic. My link doesnt automatially take me to the newest issue. Its the only one of the 20+ comics i follow that doesnt do that

        • SofiaT

          If that helps, there’s a number of subscription methods offered to make sure you never miss a new page: http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/subscribe/

          Also, Alex is pretty consistent in his updates. There’s a definite update every Saturday come hell or high water, and then there’s an extra Wed/day update if the donation bar reaches the $400 goal. Which it has been doing consistently for the last 20 weeks 😀

          So if you don’t wish to subscribe to any of the notification methods, I suggest you just take a look on Saturdays and/or Wed/days to check the new updates. 🙂