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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 38

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Do I even want to know what kind of things hold Laampros’s interest?

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  • Big Red! As evil as he is.. I kinda like his snarky style.

    • Sapfo

      DANISH! We meet again!

      • I got it? Woot 🙂
        Really thought I’d be late for the race this time when I saw Alex’ comment on previous page. Then saw I was just in time. Up until 3-4 mins before the page I didn’t have any server connection o.o

        • Sapfo

          The DanishWolf is back, and she is kicking the virgin comments fast and hard! 😉
          Me, I blame sleepy eyes and my damaged finger on this loss.

          • Aww.. fingers do suffer under this and I couldn’t let you equal, to possibly beat, my 4 in a row 😉
            Holly was starting to switch to your side xD

          • Sapfo

            The only good thing with the hurt finger is that it is the middle one. Every time someone ask about it, I show them how I feel about being in pain ^_^
            Yes, Holly will be mine! Muahahaha!

          • Holly

            OOO this is exciting. I am prize ^_^

          • Sapfo

            YEAH! I got the Holly ^_^

    • silibub

      Are you referring to Laampros’s, uh, third leg there in panel five? Because sheesh, dude, ever hear of a loincloth or something?

      • That thing looks almost as big as D’s forearm.

        • silibub

          *shudder* Yeah, good thing he’s not getting much action, because it’s basically a weapon.

          • I just hope it stays right where it is.

          • Adam Black

            Next Panel:

            “I’ll just put the tip in”

          • That’s what they all say.

          • Adam Black

            facts on the ground

          • And apparently it works

          • Sapfo

            I heard somewhere that is a guy have a to big… might not get it up and he might get dizzy of all the blood needed to get it up.
            If his wish was to get a big one. But I think he is regretting it now!

          • I’ve never seen that to be true with the dizziness in the experiences I’ve had with men of notable size, but it can take a while to get completely up and going.

          • Steven K.

            Lucky you.

          • Adam Black

            overrated

          • I’m sorry… what book are you guys getting this info from? In my experience there are only two real issues:

            1) Enough lube.
            2) Not enough lube.

            Honestly, the rest is all just normal stuff….

          • Adam Black

            HA!… I’m not sure whether to feel bad for you or envy you.

            Ever try and stick a beer can inside a donut?
            Go ahead and give me the results.

          • Noez… you’re forgetting to relax the doughnut, the tent and the bottle first….

          • I’ve heard that. I mean the time needed.

          • Adam Black

            you gotta take the good with the bad.

          • I can only guess Mr. Longstaff would have learned some patience.

          • Adam Black

            squeeze it in soft.

          • He wishes.

          • Adam Black

            Duncan? maybe

          • Mr. Longstaff. But I suppose whoever looks at it.

          • Adam Black

            Sircea’s got the tentacles. Nothing else is gonna fit that

          • That… too many images… my poor brain.

          • Adam Black

            C’mon, we’ve known this comic was on a trajectory to tentacles/demon sex since those buggers first appeared.

          • lalalalalala can’t hear you lalalalalala

            http://misadventurecentral.com/comic/sailors-seamonsters-title/

          • *Swoon*
            STOP THAT!

          • *Swoooon*
            (wow he’s good)

          • You say the sweetest things….

          • Makes a lady swoon.

          • Adam Black

            guys too

          • Men swoon over such sweet murmurs?

          • Indeed!

          • Adam Black

            You live and learn. sometimes that the only way

          • Yep… I guess practice does make perfect.

          • Yeah, though I see no reason to be hasty in that situation. 😉

          • Indeed not.

          • Adam Black

            thats why I get dizzy?

          • Sapfo

            Oh your poor thing!
            Don´t you worry there are surgerys for that problem 😉

          • Adam Black

            But I’m time-reverse Amish,
            we are only only to get major surgeries, with nanobots.

            We miss out on everything

          • So the little horse drawn buggy that Harrison Ford was riding in was really not there? Just nano-bot carts pretending to be real carts or… erm… sorry I think I lost the plot again.

            Crap it’s clearly my fault for have stopped reading the series when Douglas Adams stopped writing it. Ahhh the boo boos that make up our life.

            Although, is it true that Adams wrote the Dr. Who pilot? (Hey you’re the guy wired into the info sphere, I thought you might know.) *grins*

          • Are the nanobots working appropriately? Are you well? You’ve been quiet and reserved lately. Let me just say, I hope that you are well and that the bots haven’t messed with anything critical causing untimely dizziness coupled with and/or resulting from unwanted and excess tumescence. It’s a complex life. Take care oh Adam Black…

          • There’s a great sci-fi short story. A small idea within it is that when guys enlist in the military, one of the first things they buy with their signing bonus is the reasonably price body-mod of a super large penis (not surprising really). Shortly thereafter, they promptly discover that without the MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE circulatory body-mod that provides the increased blood flow required, whenever you get an erection you promptly pass out from lack of blood flow.

            Thus that’s the second body-mod they all save their paychecks for… nice scam really. 🙂

            Funny idea… made a lot of sense.

          • There is a reason it’s refered to as a sword

          • Adam Black

            I feel for him.

        • Adam Black

          its bigger, atleast 2 feet

          • I would believe it while in play.

          • Adam Black

            2 feet soft… look again, easily from Duncans head to his sternum

          • I dunno, perspective is a little skewed. But Duncan is sure staring at it.

          • Adam Black

            Ive seen 13 inches on 6.5 foot man.
            That is atleast 2 feet if it is an inch

          • And I keep going back and looking at it to make certain of what I’m seeing. 😐 You’re right. That thing does look nigh down to his knees.

            I think I may I have to stop liking tall men, cause 13 inches is at least five inches too long.

          • Adam Black

            He was rare.

            Strangely tall men often have small ones.

          • Well that’s a relief. Not that it changes anything, but still a relief. I can continue to crush on Thor.

          • Adam Black

            Really? Mjolinir….?

            better think again
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g93mz_eZ5N4

          • Suddenly that song is very very dirty.

            Um…then just the guy playing Thor?

          • Adam Black

            Suddenly? as in never before?
            He mammers those metaphors in. I thought it was filthy to anyone over 16.

          • Well, that song came out when I was 12. Stuff like that didn’t occur to me then. And it’s been a long time since I hear it. So yeah, suddenly.

            But but… what’s wrong with straight guys? I mean… o.O Just how sexy are we talking about.

          • Define ‘often’ please…

      • *LOL*.. that sure is something to notice. That alone should equal him being given the nickname Big Red.
        I was refering to the nickname he’s gotten in the last couple of pages, but the name fits in that ‘area’ better than expected *ahem*

    • Holly

      YOU BEAT SAPFO! Yay!

      • Sapfo

        NOOOOO!!!

        • Holly

          I am fickle and only on the side of the victor. ^.^

          • Sapfo

            I get you next time! Just you wait, I´ll get you! ¤_¤

          • I couldn’t let her continue her streak and beat me 😉

  • Sapfo

    yes morning!
    And there is Duncans motivation!

  • silibub

    “Sow”?? SAY THAT AGAIN, ASSHOLE.

    (Edit: and jeez, Duncan, you might want to make sure he specifically names Sircea — since demons are usually portrayed as eager to exploit loopholes in contracts in all that.)

    • Nite_Star

      I dunno, the Platinum Priestess is kind of a pig in my book. Disgusting grubby little #^*#(*@&U(*$

      • silibub

        Excusez-moi? You’re bringing that opinion to the wrong person, I’m afraid…I think she’s great!

        • Nite_Star

          Hahaha to each her own, I suppose. She IS sinfully sinful, and I’m not entirely opposed to such a woman 😉

      • Steven K.

        For some probably wrong reason that made me grin. Maybe because now Duncan would seem more concerned with her than for Kyle, and that pisses me off.

    • Holly

      YES. Loophole Kyle into immortality ^_^

  • davefragments

    “I want youth, perfect health without end and not just for me.”

    That’s spectacular. This is going to be fun.

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Yes, Duncan, what exactly are you bringing to the table?

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Good looks, mostly.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        And evil machinations–oh, wait, he’s talking to a demon.

    • silibub

      Charisma.

  • Immortallity OK, but youth? I never got what’s so sexy about youth, especially not if you have that body at that age.

    • silibub

      Saaame — like, as long as you’re not decrepit, what’s the big deal about being younger? Plus, I think our villainous duo is all the more attractive for being older. No accounting for taste, I suppose.

    • Steven K.

      I’d trade mine in for a body like Kyle’s at his age right about now if I could.

      • Adam Black

        I’d trade in my body for Duncans

    • Adam Black

      “youth” is relative.

      To an immortal it is vital. Othwerwise you could have a thousand year old body. Youth might be what he has now, just at peak performance.

      • “I remember when I was 58, those were the days.”

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Somebody never read the “immortality actually sucks” memo, huh? Not to mention the “demons will always screw you over in their deals” one.

    • Maria White

      Yes, just look at Mephisto…. And he forgot to add in “not being immune to having a pitchfork rammed up my ass and not dieing.” I see. So it is only ‘time’ immortality, so Tweedle Dee, and Tweedle Dum can come by with their special power muting tech and use our ever faithful and loving Pitchfork!

    • Adam Black

      I hope they both get turned into bratty tweens with no powers

  • jreed3842

    Immortality… To me that’s a fate worse than death… I would hate to live forever… watching everyone else around you die. I guess a villain like him wouldn’t care though!

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Well, his “Sow” will also be immortal and young too. So he won’t be alone.

      • yeah. more like immortal enemies – you can say so many wrong things through the ages…

        • Adam Black

          future books for Alex to write

    • stickfigurefairytales

      He might care when the Earth’s sun becomes a red giant.

      • Adam Black

        If he can skip to hell, he can escape to a another universe

    • Adam Black

      Not everyone

  • But who is PP to Duncan? Sister? Lover? Just a buddy?

    • silibub

      Hard to say…he must really value her as a companion, though, if he’s willing to share immortality with her. Or maybe getting in on the deal was the price she named for her assistance.

      • True on both accounts. But there is a reason why gods were never faithful. Immortality is a lot of time to spend with one person.

        • silibub

          Completely right, which is why I’d guess they’re not romantically involved. I’m assuming with the eternal youth aspect of the deal they’d get as much action as they’d like, while having each other for long-term friendship and emotional support. Immortality would be very lonely all on your own.

          • It’s possible they’re twins. If I had a twin and was gifted with immortality, I would want my twin with me.

          • Steven K.

            That possibility would make the most sense to me under the circumstances.

          • silibub

            The reason I’m iffy about the sibling theory is that the terms of endearment they used with each other — “my dear,” “darling,” and so forth — sound a little too…suggestive?…for family. Friends, maybe, but I’ve never heard brothers and sisters refer to each other that way.

          • There is that. But he’s British. I’m imagining she is too? Maybe….?

    • Adam Black

      sow

      • WarGoddess

        Ha!! XD

        • Adam Black

          I want to see a laampros/sircea mash up.

          She can “hug” him with ther tentacles

      • o.O Oink.

  • Sapfo

    I think Queens said it best:
    “Who wants to live forever
    Forever is our today,
    Who waits forever anyway?”

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Immortality is going to suck if he and PP get arrested for their super villainy. Sure, the statute of limitations runs out on most crimes, but I’m pretty sure their schemes have killed a few people over the years and what immortal wants to serve a life sentence?

    • Steven K.

      Right – If you are untold millennia old, then a few hundred years is still pretty darn young from your point of view.

    • Holly

      He could end up like a Claudia in Interview with a Vampire, mind of an adult trapped in the body of a child.

  • Allyne David Marins

    Now I can finally go to bed -3- ahh

    Edit: Immortality e.e for Kyle’s virginity e.e

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Me too!

      • Allyne David Marins

        T3T Tired eyes but shall never lose a new page! T3T/

  • Wait, perfect health? Was I right, is Duncan sick? Is he not so impervious after all?

    • davefragments

      because having immortality and getting cancer or leprosy isn’t cool…

      • The makings of a zombie

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          The makings of Tithonus, lover of the goddess Eos.

    • silibub

      That’s interesting! I thought maybe he just meant he doesn’t want to be disease-stricken but unable to die after the contract is sealed.

    • I don’t think so, but of course I don’t know, he said he has a healing factor so if he were to get sick somehow I think it would take care of that pretty quickly. Then again, everyone has a weakness.

      • A healing factor yes, but what if it was just for wounds?

      • Steven K.

        That’s right – so, why would he need to ask for perfect health if he pretty much has that already – seems like such a request would be a redundant waste.

        • Maybe just in case Laampros gets clever and gives him immortality without youth or health. If he can give Duncan immortality, he can probably take away other things.

          • Adam Black

            he didnt ask to stay human

          • Adam Black

            like his “little piece of flesh” ?

        • Adam Black

          it doesnt cover aging or maybe diseases.
          It probably has limits.

          Can Duncan survive being thrown in a woodchipper?

          • It might take him awhile, but his pieces might grow back together. 😐

          • Adam Black

            well if he will survive it, lets practice

          • I see you’ve already rented that industrial sized chipper.

          • Adam Black

            snooze , you loose,

            chipper and hipper

          • A quite chipper about it too.

          • You guys just make me all misty… I think I’m gonna go find my blu-ray copy of Fargo…. ahhhhhh…

          • You two worry me… and that’s not easy to do. 🙂

          • *bowing with flourish* Thank you, I’m here all week.

          • *slow evil clapping…*

          • Now you’re going to make me blush.

          • Adam Black

            like youve never seen Fargo and decided to test the science?

          • *looks about shiftily*
            Who blabbed?

    • mogoskier

      What if it not Duncan that is sick but Sircea.

      • It’s possible. But it was something he said on one of the other pages that made me wonder if he was the sick one.

    • Holly

      Maybe he had CANCER!

      • Cancer or some other debilitating disease. MS. Or Parkinson’s.

      • Adam Black

        good , then he will have cancer forever

        • But that’s why he asked for perfect health.

          • Adam Black

            But he didnt specify what type of Body.

          • So what you’re saying is you hope he gets a cancer ridden body?

          • Adam Black

            He could be turned into a cow

          • Or just an ass.

          • No meanie… he gets KYLE’S body….

          • But he wants him to have cancer.

          • Adam Black

            Sooner or later everyone will have Kyles Body

          • So true. *falls about laughing*

        • Holly

          He asked to be healthy, and young again. Not to remain the same. One would assume he would be cured.

          Then again, DEMON LOOPHOLES!

          • Adam Black

            the cancer will be healthy too

          • Holly

            Cancer is just mutated cells… damn.

  • WarGoddess

    Oh my gourd, this is just too good!!!! He WAS after almost everything that was suggested! I am LOVING this!!! XD

  • davefragments

    At one point I thought DUncan wanted to change bodies with Kyle.

    • Maybe that turns out to be the only barter Lampy is willing to entertain.

      • davefragments

        I think Laampros is referring to Kyle as the “sow” …
        Laampros has been pretty sarcastic since he’s appeared.

        • That would be quite a delicious twist if that were true.

        • Steven K.

          But somehow I don’t think so – it makes a lot of sense that he’s talking about PP.

          • Adam Black

            Could be both.
            It makes sense that Laampros would deliberately trick Duncan.

  • WarGoddess

    Duncan: “Give me immortality, and I shall give you…NUTELLA.”
    Laampros: “……This pleases me.”

    • Soubi

      LOL!!

      • WarGoddess

        If I had the ability, I would give anyone who asked immortality if they had Nutella. 😀

        • Now that you meantioned Nutella (I know it’s made of mostly nuts).. I read the most horrifying thing the other day.
          Some experts say it’s possible that the world will run out of chocolate in about 5-10 years – and if not run out, then it could become so expensive that it’s a ‘rich man’s eating’ only D:
          In Asia a lot of the cocoa farmers have switched to producing rubber trees instead because it’s pays more, and the crop harvesting is failing in other parts of the world because of a drought. So with the current demand and less produced cocoa (trees), the suply might start to run short around year 2020 *shivers in horror*

          • WarGoddess

            (o~O) I sincerely hope we develop space travel to another planet, and find more cocoa there……..

          • Adam Black

            You won’t eat space chocolate once you where it comes from.

          • WarGoddess

            I dunno, you would be amazed at the lengths I’m willing to go for chocolate.

          • Adam Black

            that’s for Earth Cacao.

            Space chocolate removes your innocence if you see the factory.

            Think of the hollocaust of innocent baby space bunnies…. their blood squeezed out and pressed into delicious chocolate shapes.

            The screaming is endless.

          • WarGoddess

            Is it bad that I would still eat it?

        • Adam Black

          seems fair.

    • But how much nutella? A jar, a case?

      • strangeangel24601

        All of it. Just… All.

        • WarGoddess

          We can’t give him all of it, or else there would be none left for anyone else!! XD

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Well, he is evil.

        • Holly

          But if you give it ALL to him, how will we have Ferrero rocher? IT’s made with nutella.

          • WarGoddess

            Yes, we have the wonderful people of Ferrero Rocher to thank for the glorious gift of Nutella!!!

          • Holly

            Plus Ferrero rocher are FULL of Nutella. It’s wondrous.

      • WarGoddess

        BUCKETS OF IT. XD

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    There have been comments as to whether Laampros has a penis or not. If you blow up panel 5, you can clearly see the outline of a penis.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      The best part of panel 5 is that Duncan is staring at it when he says, “I want…”

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Ha! I hadn’t noticed that. I was too busy looking between Laampros legs myself!! lol

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          He’s also starring at Laampros’ groin when they’re discussing indulging in his curiosity about the limitations of mortal flesh.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            You can also see it from behind Laampros on panel 3

    • Adam Black

      Blow it up?
      Its jumps off the page and pokes you in the eye.

  • silibub

    Pffft, even Laampros doesn’t think immortality’s all that. I was kind of hoping Duncan had some other goal in mind, but I guess you might as well go big or go home.

  • Jamie Dutton

    Lol, calling Sircea a ‘sow’ isn’t a smart thing, although I suppose Big Red there can hold his own against her. But I’ve got a feeling that they are both in for a big surprise.
    The way Laampy hesitates in the 6th panel, “will receive the same…gift” That sounds like he has a few plans of his own.
    Dang Alex this is getting so good!

    • silibub

      Yeah, Duncan’s whole request is waaaay too vaguely worded for my comfort. Youth is relative, for one thing, and who knows what nasty ways Laampros might decide to twist the “gift,” or what he might ask for in return.

      • Good point. He could turn him into a baby forever

      • Jamie Dutton

        I read an old story, where the guy asks for eternal youth, but forgot to be specific and ended being an infant for eternity! It was really freaky.

        • Jinx!

          • Jamie Dutton

            yeah you beat me to it by a few seconds. So I guess I owe you a soda?

          • A mexican coke will be fine. 😀

  • Cookie

    Here’s hoping Laampros mistakes Kyle for Duncan’s “sow.” Or there’s some kind of really sweet “hey look now we’re immortal together forever c’mon let’s go have actual sex/cuddles now and not demon-summoning firejizz” conclusion.

    • Adam Black

      So all this was a marriage proposal?

  • Soubi

    Immortality/Eternal Youth for him…and…Sircea…in exchange for Kyle’s virginity? No, no, he was uncomfortable with Lampurru-kun touching Kyle. Clearly Duncan wants Kyle but…needed his powers for this. Well, shit! AS IF THIS COULD GET ANY WORSE — oh, god, knock on wood. I’m not about to jinx this. I take that back, forgive me!

    • WarGoddess

      Laampurru-kun. That is by far my favorite nickname for him that I have heard. XD

  • Steven K.

    Oh God – back to dread again.

    • Adam Black

      It will all end in tears….
      I told you to give up hope when entering hell.

  • Winter

    I knew it! Now I wonder if it will be what they bargained for. I am curious to see a young version of Duncan but if this blows up in his and PP’s faces I won’t be too upset.

    P.s. That thing is about to put Duncan’s out

    • Adam Black

      i hope he gets tweened with no powers

  • silibub

    If Laampros purposefully misinterprets Duncan’s request and gives the whole youth and immortality package to someone other than Sircea, that might make her turn against Duncan. Or if Laampros’s condition is that Kyle has to remain in the hell dimension with him to help him test the “limitations of human flesh” (because it certainly sounds like he expects to soon), and Duncan backs out, she could see it as a betrayal — in any case, I think she would be a dangerous person to disappoint.

    Which makes me nervous, because I seriously doubt this whole bargain is going to go smoothly. My nerves will be jangling until we see how this scene goes…

    • Adam Black

      i think Kyle is the ride home

      • Good thing Duncan knows how to drive a stick.

        • Adam Black

          Something every one should learn.

          Its all about pressing down the clutch at the right moment

  • Sooo the big question on my mind is…what does Kyle get out of all this? Do you think the demon will grant him a wish too since he got them there in the first place? Or perhaps Anni will just abandon poor Kyle to Big Red (though that seems unlikely given his reactions to the demon touching him).

    Big Red might grant Anni and the sow their wishes but he might grant Kyle something too, like the relentless desire to hunt down their betraying, youthful selves and then having to spend the rest of eternity being butt kicked by him. And if you’ve got perfect health, well, there’s plenty of different agonizing ways to test that “perfect health” since they’ll be regenerating themselves from now until waaayyy past the end of time.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Kyle gets to live. That’s what Kyle gets out of this. Also, some valuable life lessons concerning the trustworthiness of super villains.

      • Adam Black

        and some massive red j/o material

    • Steven K.

      I like your idea better than the ones below.

  • *sigh*.. immortality.. why do they always want immortality? Who want to live forever anyway? Getting old is that scary? Anni is still a hunk, and Sircea hasn’t lost her charm xD

    He could have asked for youth again, a good health and slow aging. I wonder if any of them are sick? Either the ‘Maggot’ or the ‘Sow’ – Laampy do like to use names 😉 I’d be leaning towards Sircea being sick IF any of them is, and it’s not ‘just’ because they want to be young again.
    I wonder what Kyle thinks when hearing that the request for immortality is why he’s suffering through all of this. Duncan could at least negotiate a little something for Kyle, like control of his powers 🙂

    What could Duncan possibly offer the Big Red to value immortality? That’s my big question that I DO hope we get answered on the next page.
    It must be something bad for ‘the world’ for such a price o_o

    • silibub

      What if Duncan’s going to arrange for Laampros and his demon host to have access to the human world? Right now it sounds like the two worlds are pretty well separated by a protective barrier, and with all his talk of “mortal pleasures” it sounds like Laampros wouldn’t mind having humans as playthings.

      • WarGoddess

        Sounds plausible to me! XD

      • Yeah.. that’s my main ‘oh no, not that..right?’ at the moment.

        There’s always some catch do a deal with a bad guy. There must really be something behind Duncan doing this.
        I know he’s arrogant, but can he and Sircea really be this naive to think it’s gonna work as they want in the end?

    • Adam Black

      Kyles powers?

      • Steven K.

        Or, noticing Laampros’ interest, Kyle himself – he’s hoping/expecting to investigate the limitations of human flesh after the “business” in concluded. Hurts me to say it though.

  • SimoneLisbon

    Is Duncan dying? Don’t tell me…Okay, give me a small spoiler…No…Yes…No…Oh Goddess how many hours until Wednesday?

  • I am imagining Laampros with a troll face here. Seriously.

    So Kyle, please meet your new master. He is big, red and I can only imagine what isn’t shadowed out.

  • WarGoddess

    Oh oh oh I just realized…if Duncan’s offer is sufficient to win him this gift of immortality/eternal youth/health…we’re gonna see a young Duncan…XD

    • Well if dat ass is as tight as it is now, what would it have been like in his youth

      • WarGoddess

        Solid gold, AJ, solid GOLD. XD

        • Best comment yet.

          • WarGoddess

            Yay!!!! XD

        • Ha!

          • WarGoddess

            So gold, they can be given as awards for winning the Olympics. So gold, the angels up in heaven will be singing their praises for eternity. 😀

          • There will be statues made.

          • WarGoddess

            Statues made out of DIAMONDS.

          • Holidays created.

          • WarGoddess

            Feasts made in his honor.

          • Dat ass’s honor you mean. 😛

          • WarGoddess

            Yes, in honor of dat deliciously delectable derriere!!! XD

          • There will be none above it.

          • WarGoddess

            All will praise the diamond encrusted golden glutes of perfection!!!

          • Bow down in their presence, for you are not worthy of their perfect roundness!

          • Laws will be made forbidding the covering up of said ass

      • Rock hard buns of steel.

      • SofiaT

        Ha, that was my first thought too! 😀
        Although I’ll miss the silver fox…

        Btw, judging from his chest fur, Anni must have been a brunette.

        • I bet at 40 he had a silver at his temples.

          • Holly

            I bet he started graying young, so even at like 25 or 30 he’d have that.

          • Duncan between 30-35 would be one of the hottest things imaginable.

          • WarGoddess

            Agreed.

          • I always thought men hit their prime physically in their 30s

          • Holly

            There is a novel series I read where everyone is kept in their physical prime. they are described as looking late twenties/early thirties when they encounter people.

          • That’s usually the way of it with immortal types. Even I’m guilty of it. 😀 Although one poor character, her physical prime was around 50ish. She wears a mask to hide the lines about her eyes.

          • Holly

            OH ouch that sucks! I mean, just damn. 50!

          • It might be a bit younger, but yeah. She’s kind of a jerk anyway.

          • Holly

            Yes perfect! Between 30-36!

            I like 36 because it’s 6×6. And Three is my number.

      • Adam Black

        i hope hes turned 12. and gets his memory erased so hes permanently 12.

        • Just no! No no no no no no! I… No! Now I’m imagining a twelve year old’s ass. You are an evil man. 😐

          • Holly

            THINK 27 YEAR OLD ASS!!!

          • Nice!

          • WarGoddess

            Yummy!!!! 😀

          • Adam Black

            ya, but i got chocolate

          • I repeat evil man! Can I have some chocolate?

          • Holly

            *gives AJ CHOCOLATE CHIP MACADEMIA NUT MUFFINS* Oh and this. *a jar of nutella from costco, the ones that are the size of a person’s head.*

          • *Grabs muffin* Mmmph Fank Ooo

          • Holly

            You are welcome. ^_^

          • Adam Black

            sure come over, been dipping the peanut butter in it

          • Be still my sugar loving heart! Where did I put my invisible duct tape jet?

          • Adam Black

            is it wrapped in invisible tape?

            You’ll never find the end to open it

          • I was certain I left a tab… Yeah, that wasn’t well thought out. Invisible duct tap jet, that’s like a screen door on a submarine.

          • Adam Black

            get out the boxcutter, try not to cut thru a propeller

          • I think I’ll just build a new jet.

            How did Wonder Woman keep from losing her jet?

          • Adam Black

            keychain that makes it beep.

            She only parks in the No-glow zone

          • *slapping forehead* Why didn’t I think of that!? I was afraid I was going to have to paint it red.

          • Adam Black

            You could paint it in pink glitter and add a ‘Somebody Else’s problem’ field

          • That could work, that could indeed work. Just need to call Maaco for an estimate.

          • Adam Black

            Slartibartfast has all the Improbable deals

          • Yay! And I have a coupon and my towel.

            I need to reread that.

          • Adam Black

            watch out for Cricket Robots

          • and bad poetry

          • Adam Black

            Did you know?

            “The storm had now definitely abated, and what thunder there was now grumbled over more distant hills,…”

            “like a man saying” …
            “………………………..And Another thing, ”
            “twenty minutes after admitting he’s lost the argument.”

            http://www.6of3.com/and-another-thing

          • I was unaware that there was a sixth book and have now added it to my wishlist.
            I must admit that I’ve read only through book three or four. I need to finish it. I have the Ultimate Hitchhickers Guide and I need to find out which box it’s in — I’ve moved three times since I read it.

          • Good book?

          • Okay it’s you two again… You are my faves for smart sensible commentary, but I only have two strong opinions:

            1) The bartender should always take your car keys when you guys are together and

            2) Neither of you should EVER be given a box-cutter. No offense. Just sayin’.

          • Do you know where I put the invisible duct tape jet?

          • Adam Black

            1) thats why I self-serve

            2) I’ve always had to buy mine.

          • I’m more worried about cutting through the windshield. Can you imagine the bugs in your teeth if that happened?

          • Adam Black

            better wear a motocycle helmut

          • Helmet hair.
            Bugs in teeth.
            Helmet hair.
            Bugs in teeth.

            What a dilemma.

          • Adam Black

            wonder woman never has helmut hair.

          • She doesn’t have to wear a helmet in her jet.

          • Adam Black

            I meant she never gets Helmut head when she wears a helmut

            http://www.skatergirl.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wonder-woman.jpg

          • Foiled!

            But then again, she is Wonder Woman. Her hair is probably as wondrous as she.

            (That’s why they can’t ever seem to make another WW tv show or movie. There is no replacing Linda Carter.)

          • Adam Black

            She got a new haircut with every change

          • Did she really?

          • Shave your head and stop smiling.

          • Shave your head and stop smiling.

          • Bite your tongue!

            Besides, I already did that once.

    • Omg! My drawing might need to be updated for color!!

      • WarGoddess

        Me too, although my drawing had Kyle and Duncan switched to where Kyle was the older supervillain with Duncan’s powers, and Duncan was the young superhero with Kyle’s powers. 😀

        • Oh I like that. Yeah, I just had Young Annihilator with annihilation in the background.

          • WarGoddess

            Schweetness. XD

          • :D!

    • Holly

      I think it’s either black or a very warm brown, like chocolate.

      • And now we have a chocolate dipped Duncan.

        • WarGoddess

          NUTELLA DIPPED DUNCAN. WHY HAVE I NOT ENVISIONED THIS BEFORE?!!!

          • Holly

            Wow, chest hair flavour saver?!

          • Fuck, War!
            That is now also in my head. >_<

          • Holly

            *clears throat* Duncan covers Kyle’s chest in Nutella and begins to lick it off. Kyle pulls Duncan up to kiss him. Now they are both covered in Nutella. *brings evilly and drinks her Frap*

          • Come now, if you’re going to do that, do it with gusto!
            “Duncan pulls out a fresh tub of Nutella, looking at Kyle’s heavily panting mouth. He wanted to devour those lips but he fought the urge and dripped the chocolatey sauce over the young man’s body. Kyle writhed as the cold liquid slid over his nipples and when Kyle let out a frustrated moan, Duncan leaned forward and kissed him.
            “This is only just the beginning, Kyle.””
            GUSTO!

          • Holly

            UGH…dirty kink is so weird and great. Dirty kink mixed with food kink. UGH >_<

          • Dude, I can keep going.

          • Holly

            DO IT! I want to see how far the rabbit hole goes! Though my brain is in dueling porn mods. Three different streams. IT’s….. intriguing.

          • Kyle wiggled slightly. He wasn’t uncomfortable. He just wanted to be touched and the more Nutella dripped on his heated flesh, the more he just wished Duncan would grab his member and being to work.
            Of course, that is not Duncan’s way and he began to work slowly down from Kyle’s lips to his collar, sucking lightly on the pink skin beneath his lips, eliciting a small moan. He smirked slightly and nuzzled behind Kyle’s ear.
            “I haven’t even touched you yet and look at you,” his voice was low and husky, his words slurred with passion. He was just as ready as Kyle and wanted to feel their flesh pressed together but foreplay first. He didn’t want to waste perfectly good Nutella.

          • WarGoddess

            OHMYSWEETLAWRDYJAYSUS!!!! (O#O)/

          • Sorry, had to go to sleep and then went to a movie and what not.

            Duncan lapped at Kyle’s pert nipples, savoring the nutty flavor and relishing in the sweet moans that escaped Kyle’s lips. He almost couldn’t stand it. He was straining and uncomfortable but he continued to work on the youth, concentrating his attack on Kyle’s trembling stomach.
            “Stop…ha…teasing me,” Kyle panted. Duncan smiled into the curly treasure trail leading to his prize. He had almost cleaned the creamy Nutella from Kyle’s undulating body and his straining member twitched in anticipation. He licked his way back up, laving over his nipples slowly before placing his lips softly onto Kyle’s.
            “You’re much more bold than you were the first time,” Duncan teased. But he was also impatient. With a sharp intake of breath, he pressed his flesh to Kyle’s.

          • WarGoddess

            I wish I could upvote this a million times, this is pure poetry here!! XD

          • Want me to keep going? I certainly can.

          • WarGoddess

            I do, but if I read any more of this, my ovaries are going to explode.

          • I’ll keep going after brunch 😀

          • Duncan let out a sigh when Kyle wrapped his arms around his neck. He continued to rub his erection against Kyle’s, thrusting into the young man. The motion was almost too much for him and their encounter lasted less than ten minutes. He had built up too much tension during the foreplay and as he released, he leaned down to lay a chocolate flavored kiss on Kyle’s swollen lips.
            Kyle’s body spasmed and trembled as he released onto his own chest, his seed mixing with Duncan’s. He let out a low moan, his voice shaking. His body erupted in flames which quickly faded as the stone building failed to burn.
            Duncan collapsed on to of Kyle and rolled off. He planned to go again, but maybe this time without the Nutella. He just needed a moment to recuperate.
            “Can I lick you next time,” Duncan heard a small voice pant. He felt the blood rush to his head and he looked over at the bright eyed youth.
            “You know,” Kyle blushed, realizing what he said, a little bit of fire flickering out of his eyes.”With the Nutella.”

          • D:!!! I posted a conclusion!!!! Where did it go!? T_T

          • Adam Black

            it would melt. and cook

          • Steven K.

            Someone fan me or mist me or something! Oh, how I wish the story could have gone in that direction!

          • WarGoddess

            It probably would’ve made my ovaries spontaneously combust.

          • Adam Black

            Why?
            So they can attacked by Ooompa-Lumpas, now?

          • Steven K.

            Oompa-Lumpas help make the chocolate, etc. – I don’t think they are addictively attracted to it.

          • WarGoddess

            Oh, they were in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory version. They were so in love with the cocoa bean that they even worshipped it. However, it was very scarce where they lived, so Willy Wonka told them he would pay them in cocoa beans if they came to work for him. 😀

          • Steven K.

            I didn’t recall that – You’d think then that they’d be tempted to pinch a lot of the product they were creating – I’m not sure I’d have workers producing something they coveted. Well, I guess if they value their jobs and the cocoa they earned through it, they wouldn’t want to risk it by grabbing extra. Like the people that work at the U.S. mint don’t walk off with sheets or hunks of bills (not that that would be easy to do anyway) because they value their jobs and know it would mean ruin (and prison) if they ever did such a thing. But there are always a few desperate or greedy people who aren’t stopped by such considerations.

          • No… you meant Ewoks… didn’t you?

          • WarGoddess

            AAAAGH!!!!! *unintelligible gargling*
            *dies*

          • WarGoddess

            Someone needs to draw this. I NOMINATE MYSELF!!! 😀

          • Holly

            YAY!

            Also you can draw?!

            Also, all this talk about sexy Nutella reminded me of Tom Hiddleston talking about delayed gratification of cookies. HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ubVVnWglk

          • WarGoddess

            Yup, I drew Trapped, Female Annihilator, and Baby Duncan and Kyle on the Fan art page. And the picture I have for my avatar. 😀

          • WarGoddess

            MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! XD

    • Adam Black

      Oh NOEZ, he be a “YoungKun” now

      • WarGoddess

        I see what you did there. 😀

      • LOL (that was old school in case you didn’t noez).

        • Adam Black

          Noez , I didnt

  • silibub

    *slides out of chair* Okay, I have to go to bed, but I’m really looking forward to catching up on all the comments when I get up. I’ll just gently cry myself to sleep over the impending downgrade of our silver-haired babes.

    • Adam Black

      don’t worry.

      They might stay silver, and may be babes

  • SofiaT

    Just finally managed to see this page. Two things:
    1) What is Laampy’s meaning on the second panel? and
    2) if Duncan gets young again, I hope he’s in his 40s. That’s a fiiiine age for a man 😀

    • 1) I wish I knew.
      2) Mmmm

    • Holly

      1) I think Lampros means that earth is filled with sex, food, and free will. Yet we restrain ourselves do to “morality.” etc
      2)The age at which are person’s body stops maturing and starts aging is between 25 and 35. So I think he will be around there.

    • Feverfew_M

      1) I’m afraid his ideas of “pleasure” might not go well with common human ethics. Which makes me fear the worst in case he’s let loose on the human world…
      2) I agree, that is indeed a fine age. 😀 But I also think he would rather choose his early twenties. He came into his powers as a teen and chose to be a supervillain at age 26-27. My guess is that he tried to fit in with the heroes in between and it didn’t work out. So there might be a point of regret for him at that age somewhere. Just a feeling…

    • Been thinking about the meaning of the second panel. I think what he’s getting at, is that there is so much pleasure to be had but mortals don’t take what is there because of morals and such and he finds the torment we put are selves through over it, delicious. Or something to that effect.

  • Starfighter just updated!

    • Both in one night. HEAVEN!

      • WarGoddess

        Nutella-covered heaven wrapped in sugar-encrusted GOLD. XD

        • Needs more Nutella.

          • WarGoddess

            Dump trucks full of Nutella.

          • Nutella trains.

          • WarGoddess

            A fleet of C130 cargo planes FULL of glorious NUTELLA!!!!

          • A tardis full of Nutella.

          • Oh YEAH, baby!

            *licks lips*

          • WarGoddess

            Omg my best friend is a HUUUUGE Dr. Who fan! I’m gonna watch it with her one of these days. XD

          • Omg do it right now. Right now. Start with 10.

          • With Nutella

          • WarGoddess

            I will, but right now it’s past midnight where I live, and we’re already watching a Chucky movie. It’s so freaking cheesy, it isn’t even funny. My friend’s boyfriend is scared shitless, lol. XD

          • They’re such terrible films though lol! You should scare him. Seriously. :D! DOoooo eeeet!

          • WarGoddess

            Oh, he was scared enough, and it was so funny. I was sitting on the couch, my friend was sitting between me and him, and I could still feel him jump every time there was a scary moment, lol. XD

          • Dolls are scary yo!

          • WarGoddess

            I suppose, but I grew up collecting dolls, and they don’t scare me at all. I am terrified of heights still. I kinda got out of my fears of tornadoes and spiders by watching the movies Twister and Arachnophobia over and over again. 😀

          • I collect BJDs and everyone tells me they’re scary…I don’t see it.

          • WarGoddess

            BJD?

          • Ball-jointed dolls. I collect Soom LEs.

          • WarGoddess

            Ah, I see!

          • Fun fact: They are anatomically correct. You can even buy resin erections.

          • Adam Black
          • WarGoddess

            Lol

          • After reading about possessed teddy bears when I was about 9/10… Eventually all my Cabbage Patch Dolls went into the closet with the door always firmly closed at night. o.O

          • WarGoddess

            I never had Cabbage Patch Kids, but I had tons of Barbie dolls and little porcelain dolls in Victorian-era dresses.

          • Barbies were locked tight in their carrying box.

          • Adam Black

            when i was a small child i kept spiders in jars

          • Adam Black
          • I knew I was going to regret opening that.

          • Adam Black

            secret knots is great…

            try going back a few years …. if you cany stand revenant dolls

            1, http://www.thesecretknots.com/2011/12/15/music-for-stray-days/

            2. http://www.thesecretknots.com/2008/02/12/unspeakable/

          • Dolls are evil! *whimpering in a corner*

          • Adam Black

            those were doll free

          • And just as creepy.

          • Adam Black

            You didn’t like the song?

          • D’oh. I didn’t see the song. Just listened to it. Now that I like very much.

            I once asked my lil brother to write a song for one of my stories. Never got any words, but the music was pretty neat.

          • Adam Black

            not sure which came first

          • For which?

          • Adam Black

            the song or the comic

          • I’ve often found that songs can inspire story lines. So it’s always possible that the song came first.

          • Adam Black

            how many times did u play it?”

          • 3 times so far.

          • WarGoddess

            I don’t know, to me that comic is just funny. Does that make me messed up in the head?

          • We like you anyway. 😀

          • Adam Black

            No, its a campy story line.

          • Oh my god I love it. I have friends from England visiting right now and one of them is seriously as jumpy as a squirrel.

          • WarGoddess

            SQUIRREL!!!!

          • Yes, do what Kinzie says! I have every 10 there is on a shelf behind me. I might have to watch one now.

          • I have Torchwood on now but I think I might just put on a bit of Ten…

          • Mmmm…Cap’t Jack. A luscious Nutella of a man.

          • Mmm. Captain Jack slathered in Nutella. This is a thing now. It is in my head.

          • OMG! *bites finger*

          • Mmmmm I’m going to have Barrowman filled dreams.
            Sorry, Nutella covered Barrowman dreams.

          • Holly

            Nutella covered Barrowman feeding me Ferrero rocher dipped in nutella. He passes them to me with his mouth.

          • Fuuuuuck!! Why you gotta…
            It’s in my head now…it’s….ugh….why…

          • WarGoddess

            Whhyyyyyyyyy……*raises hands to the heavens in pure anguish, wishing the vision would happen in RL*

          • Barrowman filled dreams ain’t bad either.

          • Oh they never are.
            :3 I know he is gay and happily married but mmmmmm

          • veerrry tasty…

          • The last con I went to with him there, he had an anything goes photoshoot.
            He motorboated some lady. Because her breasts were amazing and he felt the urge.

          • Crimony!!!!

          • It was pretty fuckin fantastic

          • Adam Black

            really?

          • WarGoddess

            Why must we be given the ability to imagine such a thing, yet the insanely small possibility of it ever happening in real life? The real world is cruel!

          • Well this is a very messy imagining, did it occur in real life, one would hope a shower was nearby. Which has it’s own rewarding imaginings.

          • WarGoddess

            Why would Captain Jack Sparrow need a shower when he has about a million drooling fangirls/boys willing to lick him clean? XD

          • And miss the pleasure of washing him off in the shower? The million droolers can just wait their turn!

          • WarGoddess

            Well how ’bout this? The million droolers (to include me, of course) get to lick it off of him, and THEN we get to shower him off! XD

          • Holly

            Yes. Don’t want to waste the Nutella by just washing it off. We will lick him clean, and then let him shower off our saliva.

          • WarGoddess

            Yes, because it should be illegal to waste perfectly good Nutella.

          • That could work.

          • I know.
            Oh I know. I have a vivid imagination too, so seriously describe something to me vaguely and its in there.
            My boyfriend thinks its hilarious to do with sexual things while I’m at work. So I’m sitting at my desk uncomfortably with my imagination and he’s laughing at home.

          • WarGoddess

            That is so very cruel, lol. My fiancée likes to do that, too.

          • Dicks! lol they’re all dicks XD!!

          • WarGoddess

            Lol, I agree. I’m just glad my man isn’t a dick to me 24/7, or else I probably couldn’t stand it. 😀

          • He’s only a dick when he knows he can turn me on and leave me frustrated.
            >_> too open for these comments?

          • WarGoddess

            Nope, heard everything here. As long as you aren’t openly insulting anyone, I have found that practically anything goes. Everyone is a pervert, and whoever says that they are not is in denial. 😀

          • lol true enough!
            I think if you come looking for a yaoi webcomic, you are deep down a major perv. >_>

          • WarGoddess

            Agree! XD

          • Adam Black

            I deny that I am not. Does that mean I am not?

          • WarGoddess

            Nope, you’re still a perv. There is no way past it once the virus enters your system. 😀

          • Adam Black

            that’s why I said, but you said my denial proved otherwise.

          • You perv therefore Nutella….

          • Adam Black

            Whutellaya?

          • You young folk with your fancy words… 🙂

          • Adam Black

            Whutellaya?

          • Adam Black

            Whutellaya?

          • I deny… that I am… deny… (double negat…) and that means… oh…

          • Adam Black

            If I may, let me shower you with the GOOD NEWS of Captain Jack slathered in Infintite Nutella. You needn’t take my word, must follow the logic of Descartes :

            “Whenever I know that I doubt something or want something, I understand that I lack something
            and am therefore not wholly perfect. How could I grasp this unless I had an idea of a perfect being, Captain Jack slathered in Infinite Nutella, which enabled me to recognize the worlds defects by comparison? ”

            Nor can it be said that this idea of Captain Jackslathered in Nutella, could be ‘materially false’, and thus have come from nothing, as may be the case (I noted this a few moments ago) with the ideas of heat and cold.

            “On the contrary, it is utterly clear and distinct, and contains in itself more representative reality than any other idea;that is, it stands for something that is grander, more powerful, more real, than any other idea stands for; so it is more true – less open to the suspicion of falsehood – than any other idea.”

            “This idea of a supremely perfect and infinite Captain Jack slathered in Nutella, I say, true in the highest degree; for although one might imagine that such a being does not exist, it can’t be supposed that the idea of Captain Jack slathered in Nutella represents something unreal in the way that the idea of cold perhaps does. ”

            “The idea is, moreover, utterly clear and distinct. It does not matter that I don’t grasp the infinite,
            time-agent, or that there are countless additional attributes of Captain Jack slathered in Nutella,
            that I can’t grasp and perhaps can’t even touch in my thought; for it is in the nature of the Captain Jack slathered in infinte Nutella, not to be grasped by a
            Hungry WhOvian like myself. ”

            “It is enough that I understand infinite nutella, and that I judge that all the attributes that I clearly perceive and know to imply some perfect Captain jack – and perhaps countless others of which I am ignorant – are present in Captain jack either straightforwardly or in some higher form. This is enough to make the idea that I have of Captain Jack slathered in Nutella the truest and most clear and distinct of all my ideas. ”

            As we Think, therefore Nutella.

          • WarGoddess

            Love it!!! XD

          • WarGoddess

            OMG now I want a Nutella slathered Captain Jack Sparrow!!!! *Cries into a pillow*

          • lol

          • Adam Black

            Captain jack or Jack Sparrow?

          • WarGoddess

            Well, now that my friend has shown me the magic that is Captain Jack, I want them BOTH. XD

          • Adam Black

            did you see Captain Jack kissing Jack Harkness on Torchwood ?

            https://plus.google.com/101453162215777563254/posts/SET3gYpA6Ly

          • WarGoddess

            Well, I’ve seen it now, and lemme just say….
            HOLYJUMPINGJESUSCHRISTMASBISCUIT!!!! *flails*

          • Adam Black

            Someone has a torchwood episode to watch.

            ( this scene take place, chronologically, shortly before the “The Empty Child” )

          • I have this image of you as one of those creatures wired in to all forms of media. Basically living in a spherical enclosure that fills your brain with all the latest in media constantly… am I wrong or are you that guy in most of the better sci fi movies… he knows a lot, but he’s a little scary too… 🙂

          • Once you start watching, there is nothing before and nothing after Doctor Who.

          • WarGoddess

            Lol, I got her a Doctor Who keychain for Christmas, and somehow it fell off of her keys. She was pissed.

          • Well yeah.

          • WarGoddess

            I started watching it and it is EPIC!!!

          • WOOO HOOO!

          • Nothing before and nothing after, there is only the Doctor. 😀

          • Nutella dripping, splattered on their…bodies.

            Oh wait…sorry.

          • WarGoddess

            Me likey this mental image. XD

          • o.o…I just had a GLORIOUS visual.

    • Thanks!

    • So this guy who was a mean jerk about a year and half ago JUST texted me. He wants to come over, talk, probably has romantic aspirations since we sorta went down that road before I kicked him to the curb. It’s 11:36 pm here in San Francisco.

      I texted him back saying “Be gone! You can’t compete with Capt Jack, Nutella, TYP, and my camping friends!”

      Thank you all for giving me the strength to kick his dumb jerk a$$ to the curb again.

      • Jamie Dutton

        Lol, awesome! I bet that confused the hell out of him, too!

        • Especially if he’s been drinking and horny.

          Holly and Jamie, I am laughing so hard right now I can’t breathe!

      • Holly

        *GLOMPS GRYPH* I present to you a TOWER of Ferrero rocher in honour of your strength and awesome ^_^

      • Oh my god. I’m glad you kicked his ass to the curb for Nutella and TYP 😛 (and your own well being)

      • WarGoddess

        You’re welcome, Gryph! XD

      • Indeed mighty welcome!

      • That dumb ass jerk just called me a b**** and a c***! And now he’s hurtling text abuse at me!

        Grrrr….not going to respond. Gonna think about Capt Jack smeared with Nutella, kissing 10, deep tongue kisses. Gonna feast my eyes on more yaoi, gonna engage in more CAMPING!

        • Holly

          Yes, ignore the douchecanoe!

          Fun Note: My friend Alma made me describe my perfect man the other day and when I finished she said, “So basically the tenth doctor.”

          Honestly, 10 has all or most of my qualifications for ideal guy. LOL

          • I’ve got 10 playing in the upper right corner of my screen right now. The episode? THE SATAN PIT, of course.

          • Holly

            Good Episode!

            You know personally I could really use a Sonic Screw…

            …..Driver

          • 10 just said “The urge to fall” and “it’s deeper than that” and jumped so I think you’re onto something there.

          • Holly

            Thank you. ^_^

          • Adam Black

            Got some shelves to put up, d’, ya?,

            cue waa — waa guitars

        • As if being called names is going to make you change your mind.

        • WarGoddess

          I wouldn’t put up with that if I were you. You should get your phone number changed or something so he’ll leave you alone.

          • It may come down to that but this is the first time in over a year that he’s tried to contact me. I’m hoping he will back off now.

  • Holly

    Haha your sow. Wow, Lampy is so snarky. And he seems so bored with Dunan’s request. Like “Yeah yeah, everyone wants immortality. Whatever” I can’t wait to see what he is going to over in exchange. I am very interested!

    *stares at the eye. He stares back. We stare together. Always staring. ALWAYS*

    • WarGoddess

      One by one the penguins steal my sanity one by one the penguins steal my sanity one by one the penguins steal my sanity…I’m sorry, I got a little carried away on a different tangent…
      *stares at the eye. He stares back. We stare together. Always staring. Always.*

      • Adam Black

        penguins>

      • Holly

        I have a t-shirt that says “The Penguin Made me do it.”

        • I think Alex should make a special TYP t-shirt with the giant eye-in-the-sky and have it be a parody Visine ad. “Dry eyes? Too much fire! GET THE (BIG) RED OUT!”

          • Holly

            He IS looking more bloodshot… Poor guy.

          • Adam Black

            very punny

        • WarGoddess

          Haha I knew a person who owned a shirt that had One by one the penguins steal my sanity written over and over in a spiral on it. 😀

          • Holly

            Both these t-shirts suggest that penguins are corrupting and sanity stealing entities. Thus penguins are adorable demons. Which makes sense when you think of their teeth. *shudders*

  • Laampy: Deal, you and the Sow will get your youth back *does what it takes*

    Duncan: *looks down* You cheated!

    Laampy: You should have precised what age you meant *snark*

    Duncan: You.. you’re mean! I want my mommy *sucks thumb*

    • WarGoddess

      Lol, that would be so funny!!!

    • Holly

      I prefer the image of him having an adult mind, but being stuck in the body of a preschooler. XP

  • Adam Black

    Mysteries Revealed:

    (1) Duncans motivation REALLY IS for youthful immortality for himself and Sircea.
    ….. I am surprised. That lampshading seemed way to literal

    ( 2) Laampros DOES have genitalia, and is hung like a whale!
    ………………………………………………………….

    Increased possibility: Duncan/Sircea is a real Couple

    New Mystery: What is Duncan selling? Is it Kyle?

    • Holly

      A whale’s penis is called a dork. We are all dorks. Does this mean we are Lampy’s gentials?? THINK ABOUT IT!

      • WarGoddess

        Yay another person who actually knows what a dork is!!!! XD

        • I like learning new things in the comments section.

      • I learned something new. and next time someone is called a dork, I am going to laugh inappropriately.

      • Adam Black

        I believe your theory of transitive whale genitalia is flawed.
        Ill have to post some selfies

        • Holly

          You are going to post selfies to prove you are not a whale’s penis, or just to prove you are not a dork?!

          • Adam Black

            right

          • Holly

            *blinks* You…Just…i give up

          • Adam Black

            I win the internet

  • Holly

    So it’s Thanksgiving Weekend here in Canada (traveling to my parents house is why i missed camping out earlier) and in Honour of that I would like to give thanks.

    THANKS to Alex for writing this amazing comic.
    THANKS to Adam for his brilliant artwork.
    THANKS to Veronica for her breathtaking colour work.
    THANKS to all the awesome fan people who I get to play with each week in the comments.
    THANKS for Nutella and all the other treats we are obsessed with.
    THANKS for all awesome things ^_^

    • YES THANK YOU NUTELLA!
      I mean…
      Um… Alex… >_>

    • Testify!

      PS – A hearty thanks to Alex, Adam and Veronica for bringing us this comic.

      • Holly

        *totally inappropriate joke about thanksgiving stuffing*

        • *biting tongue to stop from asking*

          • Holly

            Do you really want to know? I know you do. I have one as well. IT’s good…. *evil grin as I drink my Vanilla Bean Frappe*

          • Of course I really want to know. That’s why I was biting my tongue to stop from asking. Oh oh oh… dammit! Tell me

          • Holly

            Well, Kyle’s already trussed up like a Thanksgiving Turkey, won’t be long until he gets his stuffing. 😛

          • WarGoddess

            HAHAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT!!!!! XD

          • Hahahahaha!! Yes, inappropriate. Hahahaha! I’m evil. Hahaha. You are a genius.

          • Holly

            How are you evil?

          • Because I’m laughing.

          • Feverfew_M

            Aw, come on, spill!

        • WarGoddess

          *Obnoxiously loud laughter at the inappropriate thanksgiving stuffing joke*

        • Adam Black

          does it involve Dorks? Turdorken?

          • WarGoddess

            I see what you did there. ;D

    • WarGoddess

      And THANKS for Duncan’s gorgeous glutes!!!

      • All hail dat ass!

        • Feverfew_M

          Lampy’s isn’t half bad either. Just sayin’… 😉

          • I noticed that bubble butt. All round and high.

          • Finooola

            Indeed, I also noticed dat ass.

          • WarGoddess

            Not that Laampurru-kun isn’t sexy, he’s just…HUGE. (o*O) I would probably die……..

          • Feverfew_M

            But not from enjoying the view… 😀

          • WarGoddess

            I dunno, I just might die of blood loss from the nosebleed I would be having lol XD

      • Adam Black

        Laampys is better

        • WarGoddess

          I suppose in sheer size, but Laampurru-kun gives me the heebie-jeebies. Especially since he’s like four times the size of me. I don’t usually use any knick-names for the characters in my comments, but he needs a cute name to make him less creepy in my book.

          • Adam Black

            good form.
            its mall and tight for his size

  • Holly

    I love how Laampros pauses before he says gift, because I think he knows just how not fun immortality can be. Honestly I once was playing “Would you push the button?” and the question was “You remain youthful and live forever, no matter what you do to yourself you will never die BUT You remain youthful and live forever, no matter what you do to yourself you WILL NEVER DIE.” I mean, THINK about the two meanings of that phrase…

    • Adam Black

      It means you get to play fun and bloody suicide games.

    • vessto

      Yes, it can be much no fun.;) After I read Robert Sheckley’s “Something for Nothing” I have something in mind about immortality.

  • Ellen Harman

    So thet want to live forever. How truly sad. They will out live everyone they know, everyone they will ever love, this in itself will evenyually become a curse and they will go mad. I guess sadly there can be nothing with Kyle in this case. This means he and the Priestess must be a couple, as they will live forever they will only have each other.

    So what is going to happen to Kyle? I can’t believe that they would want the heroes to know what they have done, or what they look like. After all getting their youth back means they will have new looks making it easy to disappear until they are ready to move again. They could just lay low until the current group of heroes passes and then take over, what a great plan! But if Kyle leaves withhis memory intact he would have to inform the team what the villians had done, since this could make them more powerful. To have the power of youth and the knowledge to use it.

    • Holly

      Ellen we are debating the idea that since Laampros said something non-committal like “your sow” that he is going to use that as a loophole. Kyle will get the immortality. That would be interesting, would it not.

      But yes, immortality is tragic unless you have a LOT of people to do it with. Even so, it’s must get DULL

      • Jamie Dutton

        I don’t know, I think it’s like any other choice we make. What you end up doing with it determines if it’s truly a mistake or boring.

        • Holly

          That and who you spend it with. I mean, again, if you are totally alone they you are just going to have to watch all your love and care for die. But if you have a companion or a group of companions who are also immortal, I think you could have a lot of fun.

          • They could also royally piss you off and then you’re stuck with them forever and ever and ever…etc

          • Holly

            “Fake Killing you brings me a great deal of pleasure, because i get to do it over and over. It’s…cathartic.”

          • There is that. Kinda like “Groundhog’s Day”

          • Ellen Harman

            Like Wolverine and Sabertooth. Wolverine is the only century spanning hero I can think of. I think the only reason he is stll a hero is because he joined every war through the ages so he could work off his anger. To be immortal in this tme would be very hard to hide.

          • One would need to travel a whole bunch and stay in countries with little internet.

          • Adam Black

            Captain Jack

          • Who became that giant head. All that loveliness just gone.

          • Holly

            Well it’s IMPLIED that they are the same person, never confirmed. But probably yeah. Sadness.

          • That’s not nice to even imply!

          • Holly

            I know. It’s rally not. 🙁

          • Adam Black

            face of Boe.

          • Right. That was it. Poor Capt’n Jack.

          • Adam Black

            hes lucky to still be around

          • Didn’t the Face of Boe die though?

            But then again since he could travel in time… Yay, young Capt’n Jack

  • Jason Arilani

    All of this pales in comparison to what we’re really thinking….

    “WE WANT TO SEE LAAMPROS’ PACKAGE!”

    Or something to that effect. :3

    • Holly

      Naw you see one demon dick you’ve seen them all.

      • Tina

        Should I be worried you’ve seen one?

        • Holly

          Um no. I just read a lot of comics with demons in them. Even the non-sexual ones have naked demons and sometimes the artists are a little LIFE DRAWING CLASS with the anatomy.

          • Tina

            Teehee it was just a joke. Just checking you aren’t making any deals with any lamps.

          • Holly

            I did make a deal with one lamp. He promised to give me light in the darkness if I just twisted his knob a bit every so often. 😛

          • That was brilliant.

      • Jason Arilani

        Psh. There is always room to see more demon dick xD

    • vessto

      It is almost visible in panel 5.XD

      • Jason Arilani

        I know! But that’s just a teaser! We want the full view!

        • vessto

          Of course, full view and in erection, mmmm……..

    • Adam Black

      go and look

      • Jason Arilani

        Go and look? At… what? o_o

        • Adam Black

          Big red,

          thew full rack of lamb,

          the whole enchilada, the spear of destiny,

          the Mountain of madness

          • The Staff of Ultimate Pulchritude… oh I’m sorry.. did I come in too late?

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    What exactly did Duncan and Sircea find out about Kyle? Can Kyle keep opening doorways to other universes? Is Duncan/Sircea planning on keeping using Kyle for their purposes?
    Is Duncan really fond of Kyle or does he see an excellent tool that he can keep using?

  • EldrinSMP

    Umm, I misread that as “your son” instead of “your sow” and I was REALLY gobsmacked for a few moments.

    • Holly

      Now I am imagining Kyle MISHEARING that.

      “I’m your son!? That is just… EW… GROSS.”

      oh wait he can’t talk…

  • Holly

    GRR. My e-mail changed formats and now it’s grouping ALL my disqus messages. If I try to delete one I delete them all. So I have to read them all as a giant long line, and it’s confusing. >_<

    • Tina

      Oh I know same here. And for some reason when I try clicking reply to message it almost sends me to the comment but then stops and just sends me to the top of the page. Meaning I gotta scroll all the way down looking for the reply.

      • Holly

        Do you have yahoo as well?!

        • Tina

          No Hotmail

          • Holly

            ah

        • Wait, Yahoo is changing formats? that’s what I have connect to discus. That’s how it is with gmail and it kinda sucks.

          • Holly

            Yeah I had to resort to just checking it on my iPhone and when there is one I need to reply to reloading it on the computer. It’s a PITA

          • Sounds like it. So far Yahoo has not changed it for me. I’m not looking forward to that.

          • Holly

            Maybe it’s just yahoo canada…

          • Please don’t feel insulted while I dance for joy?

          • Holly

            Whatever, Our e-mail is weird, american government is shut down. I don’t know if you are american.

          • Yeah. American. Stupid government.

          • Holly

            Yeah poor you guys your gov is really not smart.

          • Adam Black

            we know it.

          • No, no they are not.

          • Adam Black

            go to your dashboard page

          • If they change the formatting, I just may. But then again, do I want my gmail crowded.

  • Finooola

    Ooh, I like that pause before “gift”. Creepy!

    Also, no gods, no masters, Annihilator! Then again, I suppose one needs to use the proper etiquette when speaking with a demon. I’m very intrigued with the hellish turn of events. Immortality is a dreadful concept, as others have said below, but it’s probably the thing I’d ask for myself If I could have anything. What can he possibly offer the demon!?

  • Tina

    So I pass out and wake up to a new page and 300 comments. My, my, my what interesting development.

    Not sure if anyone mentioned this (I’m not skimming through all 300 comments at 3 in the morning) but wouldn’t it be really interesting if Duncan got his wish and then as a young man started developing a relationship with Kyle? (Especially if the gift is for Kyle too though I think its for PP)
    1) It would make the relationship more age “appropriate”
    2) Duncan might be able to turn over a new leaf as a young man.

    We’ll just see but if he does go young I sure hope he keeps his silver hair

    • Holly

      I feel like a demon loophole is going to give Kyle the immortality instead of PP. I just FELL it. Then PP is going to be mad an vengeful.

      Also he might be. I mean I started graying at 20, though it’s slow going. But I have friends and family members who were silver by the time they were 19.

      • Tina

        Ooooh that would be good. And because of that I’m sure PP would take it out on Kyle and his team thinking he somehow changed the deal.

        My friend’s mom had silver hair at age 16 so there’s a chance my best friend’s kids could have silver hair. That. Would be awesome. //KHnerd

        • Holly

          What do keyblades have to do with white hair? O_o

          • Tina

            Riku’s my favorite character. And silver hair looks awesome, at least in the gaming world.

          • Holly

            Bah Riku is blind and helped the heartless! Bah Riku.

          • Tina

            He’s only blind until he takes the blindfold off. Then he becomes Mr. Emo pants until DDD.

      • Hey PP is already Platinum… not much more to go is there?

        • Holly

          Yeah, I’m going to assume her hair was always platinum. She was probably platinum blonde as a young lady and then it just stayed that way.

          I really can’t see her having another hair colour….

    • Adam Black

      If Duncans mind is rewound also…. it could happen

      • But wouldn’t he need to remember who he was to know to make the different choice?

        • Holly

          One would hope his memories were in tact. Though I just have the sexiest revenge fantasy in my head… hehe

          • Tina

            OOOh do tell

          • Holly

            Duncan gets turned into a teenager and has no idea how the hell he ended up where he is. Kyle takes advantage by either;
            A) Seducing him
            B) Explaining that he is on the super hero team
            C) Getting him on the hero team and then seducing him
            D) ????

            I am too brain dead to relay my brain to words.

          • Tina

            While that would make for some awesome revenge, I can’t really see Kyle being the type to seduce someone out of revenge. If anything I’d think he’d try kicking his ass if Duncan was weak enough

          • Holly

            But memory less Duncan would be an innocent…

            plus I’m pretty sure Duncan would STILL be stronger than Kyle.

          • Tina

            True fair enough. Had a thought though. What if immortality comes at the cost of his powers? So keeping perfect health and stuff but losing his super speed and super strength making him a normal, immortal human being

          • Adam Black

            sounds nice to me

          • Holly

            I can’t see it. I mean, maybe that is the deal Lammpy will propose after rejecting Anni’s initial offer, but I don’t think Anni will suggest that. Like laampros said, Duncan wants to “Play at being god” being powerless kind of ruins that.

          • Tina

            Lol exactly. I don’t think he would suggest it but Lampy might throw that on to make things more interesting.

          • Adam Black

            I wouldnt bet on it.
            remember youth

          • Doubt it. Alex digs the Anni… you can tell. I doubt he’s going to bring him down. Duncan’s got that win win vibe. Even if something doesn’t go D’s way I suspect it will only be in chapter 267…

          • Holly

            haha I suppose you have a point CD, I suppose you have a point. *nods*

          • At least partially in tact.

        • Adam Black

          new circustamces.
          like Kyle and no powers

          • Holly

            I don’t think he’d give up his powers. You can’t play at being God if you are powerless.

          • Adam Black

            give up no,

            but youthed before he had powers, maybe

          • Oh sorry… I thought we were talking about Kyles non-powers… oh you mean young Anni…. ohhhh…

          • Adam Black

            yeah, careful what you wish for

          • Holly

            Mmm yeah i could see that happening, but then he’d be younger than Kyle. I forget where, but i feel like Duncan revealed at point he got his powers as a teen. I might be wrong though…

          • Still could make the wrong choice. There would have to be something there. And if he had no powers, he’d get burnt playing with Kyle.

          • Adam Black

            playwith fire….

          • Who was it that called it the fire tunnel of love? Without his super powers Dunc. could burn his junk.

          • Adam Black

            My heart just bleeds

          • And for some reason, that made me think of this:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tg4jQAZ_cw

            You’re welcome.

          • xLizardx

            I think my aunt dated him 🙂

          • Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

          • xLizardx

            I don’t know, it’s just a thing, I guess. My Dad said that she dated one of the members of The Who, and I’m *fairly* sure he said it was Roger Daltry… *shrugs*. Oh well, must’ve been bloody ages ago, anyhoo. She’s like 50 or 60-something, now.

          • Gotcha. I just didn’t to say the wrong thing. But I guess that was the wrong thing. So I will go with my original thought about the bad video being bad.

          • xLizardx

            Lol, bless you, you didn’t say anything wrong. I was just remarking on the fact, I don’t really have an opinion on it either way. Lots of people have flings whilst they’re young [I’m guessing that’s what it was, it’s not like I’ve ever asked her about it]. 🙂

          • Oh sure, I get that. But I’m sure it would be quite the story. Well, stories like that should be good. Unless one finds out a guy like that was a bad lay. :

          • Like the ones he doesn’t seem to have now?

          • Adam Black

            i mean no powers for Duncan when he is turned into a tween

      • Tina

        That could be the price tag. All his memories as a villain giving Kyle and opportunity to step in. Maybe even have him join the YP.

        • Adam Black

          be one way to please the fan-girls

          • Tina

            Makes sense too given all of Duncan’s speeches of, “if I was different”

          • Adam Black

            he might be very different.

            He didn’t ask to keep his body

          • xLizardx

            Good point – argh, now I’m just imagining all the potential shenanigans that could occur if there were to be a body-switch O.o

          • xLizardx

            I’d rather they formed a metal band, with epic guitar solos 😀

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this in the comments before but if not…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSIV3umAqE

          • xLizardx

            Sweet 😀 I’ve been trying to compose something suitable for The Annihilator, but I’ve come up with nothing even remotely so awesome as this [probably because I went down the electronic route – I can’t solo for shit].

            Thanks for sharing, anyhoo 😀

        • In this fantasy you mean the YP as the latest boy band? Right?

          Kinda Demi Lovato and the Young Protectors appear with the Young Annihilator on Saturday Night Live? (ahhhhhhh the crowd goes wild…)

          • Adam Black

            if there is twerking

          • LOL… well that changes everything!

  • PFG9000

    His sow? Hmm Is Anni in a relationship with that “sow” now I wonder. And payment better not be Kyle or… or.. well I don’t know but yeah.

    • vessto

      Imho this most likely is PP.

    • Holly

      I’m pretty sure Kyle is the key. Can’t give the key away or he’ll be trapped there.

    • Adam Black

      I think so

      • Come on… we all knew that Anni was ‘gay for pay’ and what better payment than immortality. He played Kyle exquisitely. It’s only after you have sex with several guys who all tell you they are “bi” that you realize how deeply f*cked up gay men are about their sexuality. Duncan is definitely one of ‘THOSE’ who could care less what kind of hole it is… (sorry… truth…)

        Duncan was doing the PP the entire time he was ‘grooming and dating’ Kyle. I’m sure he didn’t feel any emotion there either. And yet, he’s the kind of male that may find her old business repulsive (?) or he may not (?) We’ll only know when he gets what he wants. He may be using Sircea’s “tiny piece of flesh’ just as much as he was Kyle’s. Women are not immune to desire either.

        It will be very interesting to see if he cares about either… or…?

        Though this shows us quite clearly that he was playing back and forth with Laampros about Kyle… I can’t remember who said that he’d sell his grandmother to get what he wants, but they were sure right. Duncan doesn’t give a god damn about Kyle… that was all just play-bargaining…

        I just think the Laampster enjoyed watching how ‘low humans can go’. And notice that Dunc. is NOT stupid… it’s YOUTH and PERFECT HEALTH.

        He can have a new ‘Kyle’ every ten years… forever with this deal. I’m afraid in this version, Kyle is just a Scooby snack. Of course, Kyle will not be nearly enough to empower this deal for Laampros. It will be fun to see what else Duncan has in his wallet…

        • Adam Black

          still plenty of loopholes in this deal

          “her old business repulsive (?) ” ?

          • I’m strictly speaking from Anni’s POV… we don’t really know do we? Listen, he’s certainly willing to take a rather nasty pass on Kyle and “his sow” is probably not the Miley Cyrus of super hero-ettes, so I’m totally just guessing… you know?

            But if I’ve touched on someone’s ‘aging business’ that’s special to you, then I do humbly apologize.

            (Ewwwww… the boy’s been bound and paralyzed for like 5 pages and now he gets all sensitive???)

          • Adam Black

            I just do not know what these words mean,
            “her old business repulsive (?) ”

            Are you suggesting Miley Cyrus is more attractive than Platinum Priestess? Miley couldnt even fill out PP metal underwear.

          • Ewwwww nooooo. Teach me to try and make a Miley joke, when that’s just making a joke on a joke and really, what’s the point of THAT?

            No, I was just being douchy and suggesting that maybe Duncan is using EVERYONE… including whoever the “Sow” that Laampy is insulting. It’s all just a route to get the spell he wants.

            The “old repulsive” was me being on my track that Duncan will have sex with who or whatever will get him what he wants. Sex is coin to Duncan. Basically straight, gay, bi or xeno-sexual for pay. I’d be worried if I were George. I don’t know how he’d do it, but if that’s the price of immortality, Anni will find a way.

            If Laampros wants to fornicate Duncan as a price for immortality then I believe that D. would drop drawers quick and whip out dat fine posterior for Laampy’s use. I just don’t think D. has preferences if ‘it’ gets him what he wants.

            People like to reference his monologuing in the scene about the frog and scorpion as implying some emotion for Kyle. I’m sorry at that point, in that way, to a betrayed, paralyzed, 18 year-old virgin. I think that was just a choice example of super villain cruelty. Honestly Kyle having to listen to that… just then… dat is some kinda heart-o-ice meanness.

            Like I said, this used to be harder for me emotionally, because I liked Duncan and when Alex fooled me I was unhappy because I had been well and truly duped. Now I expect the worst of Duncan and he lives up to all my expectations.

            Does that make sense?

        • xLizardx

          Good analysis, if pretty dark. I think it’s possible that Duncan could genuinely be bi, at least to an extent – it would be difficult, as a man, to fake desire for someone for whom you felt zero attraction.

          If he does find PP repulsive because of her age [doubtful, since, judging by the illustrations so far, she still has the body of a 20-year old] then hey, he’s asking for youth for her as well – her business won’t be old much longer. I fully agree that he may well be using her, though [and that she may be returning the favour] – I can imagine theirs being an alliance primarily of pragmatism.

          Yes, I doubt that Kyle was intended to empower this deal… but I can’t help thinking that Laampros may very well ask for him to be thrown in anyway: the cherry on top of the flaming, proverbial cake.

          • Now I do believe that sociopaths don’t care enough to find specific genders attractive or repulsive so I’m only being stinky with my PP comment. I’ve seen the pix like pages and pages ago and she was a hottie, so yeahhhh I know. I just threw that PP dig in since we’ve been r*ping poor Kyle in paralyzed flaming bondage for like 67 pages now and it doesn’t seem to bother folk much, but one unreasonable nasty comment about PP and everyone gets all hot and bothered… it does sort of make my point that we can torture the 18 year old gay boy for weeks, but one little slam against ‘the old sow’ and everyone gets ansy. LOL.

            And Duncan… be he Bi or whatever… I don’t think he cares much what the flesh is… as long as it gets him what he wants…

            We shall see… (LOL) won’t we?

          • xLizardx

            I don’t know, I think everyone feels sorry for Kyle, surely? I guess there have probably been some objectifying comments, since he’s naked and all… That’s not a justification, of course, then again, this is fiction.

            Granted, PP is fiction too. 🙂

            I was re-reading the comic the other day, and there’s a part just before Kyle and Duncan get attacked by Tweedle-Dumb and Dumber, where he says to Kyle: “I will never let any harm befall you. REMEMBER THAT.”

            I’m thinking [with the benefit of hindsight] perhaps that was a bit of foreshadowing – he wanted Kyle to remember it, even after he’d tied him up with flaming chains for like 67 pages lol.

            So, whilst I agree that Duncan is undoubtedly ruthless, selfish, and exploitative, I do believe that he will at least try to keep Kyle safe in this situation – and after all, this is Kyle’s story, so he’s not going to get killed off in the first couple of chapters. 🙂

          • Several people have thrown out those types of lines of hopeful foreshadowing because they have hopes for a sudden redemption and a love story. I once hoped for a love story, but someone wisely said something to the effect of “I think you have to give that up now… this is an adventure super-hero comic not a romance.” (something like that) and I suspect they’re right.

            Again there’s always the AU to use as a get out of jail free card in supposing what might happen so if we’re not on our earth… then sure it’s POSSIBLE that Kyle is a total cutie, but dumber than a sack of rocks, and he’ll forgive Duncan for betraying his trust and ruining his birthday, bad sex, being magically chained to a flaming bed, paralyzed, taken to hell and sold off so Duncan can get younger…

            Sure there are young gay men that stupid out there and some of us have dated some of them… but it makes Kyle turning into the world’s greatest super hero less interesting. Personally, I’ve given up on the romantic part in hopes of Kyle triumphant and Duncan karmically getting his dues path… I’m not sure we can have it all… erm… believably.

          • xLizardx

            Agreed – even if Duncan doesn’t allow him to be hurt by Laampros, he’s still effected a massive betrayal of Kyle’s trust. I don’t think forgiveness is on the cards, [as it rightly shouldn’t be] however, I do think Kyle will get through this in one piece – physically, anyway.

          • Agreed. It’s all in the definition of things like “hurt”. Some of us feel Kyle has been massively damaged already… if this were your son… he’s been taught that people are not to be trusted and that the search for love is a bad thing… However as a super-hero when you’ve been promised he’ll reign supreme in 20 chapters or so … well that’s a very different POV. So are we blaming Duncan for harm or thanking him for being the catalyst who help birth Kyle into the triumphant creature we’ve been told to look for. Then what makes “good drama” is a whole separate convo. Again interesting discussions…

  • vessto

    Awesome page! The best till now!

    I expected answers and received more questions. As always, you surprised me, Alex!:)

    So, who’s Anni’s sow? (PP??)
    What’s Laampros’ interest in human flesh and particularly in Kyle?
    What Anni can suggest to the almighty Demon?

    Aaaand…. *squeals here* What a crispy, hot and perfectly built ass this Demon has!!!:D And Panel 5… No doubts here, I’m sure I can see Laampros’ thing. *giggles*

    • Tina

      I’m thinking he means for PP to get it. I feel, its sort of implied she and Duncan were sleeping together (from the one picture Alex did with two of them plotting and you can see two wine glasses on the bed stand beside the bed).

      • vessto

        Noooooooooooo!!!!! *cries like a baby* It can’t be…. It can’t be….

        *with The Emperor’s voice, glaring at Alex* Anni belongs to Kyle! They’ll end up together, Anni as an youth and it will be HEA!!!!!!!! *waves fingers with The Emperor’s gesture* If you don’t obey you’ll meet your destiny!… I will, ahem.. *invents the most scary plot* I will steal all your cookies and empty all your coffee cups!!!

        • Oh you poor dear sweet thing… best look away now as Duncan brings out the scalpels…

        • Tina

          How can you be so cruel?! Don’t you know that’s an artist’s life blood?! Without their cookies and coffee they’ll never finish the next page!

          • vessto

            That’s the Dark Side, girl.;) No mercy here, until our reign is on top. *steals Tina’s cookies and coffee too* :p

          • Tina

            Ha! I don’t drink coffee! *runs away with wine and chocolate*

          • vessto

            Mwahaha, then worse!! I’m a huge connoisseur of wine, so… *steals all bottles and wine vats and adds with Vader’s voice* You can keep the chocolate, all expect the non-dark one. I do not make compromises often so I suppose you’ll take the deal!!! *evil grin behind the mask* I’m not as forgiving as The Emperor is.:p

          • Dang… you guys play for keeps. Yikes!

  • 425 COMMENTS IN THREE HOURS!

    No wonder I had to give up loading comments for a little while because my computer couldn’t keep up xD

    Damn we’re a chatty bunch this time.

    • Sapfo

      Almost like the page with Redwood 😉

      • *lol*.. seems TYP has it’s own Mr. Redwood 😉

        • Sapfo

          Mr Redwood have a high impact on any page he appers on. He rises to the occation 😉

          • Miss Sapfo — The heck with Duncan’s plans, are you and DWolf going to share the secret of your Mr. R with interested readers? Or shall it remain a secret?

            *raises eye brow in time honored manner*

            Hmmmm?

          • Sapfo

            Oh young Padowan!

            I feel that you are now ready for the greatest test of all. Find M Redwood on the page! Do me proud and al the honer shall come your way.

            http://www.teahousecomic.com/comic/?id=158

          • “Do me proud and all the boner shall come your way.”

            Whatever could sly Sapfo mean? LOL.

          • Sapfo

            Sly I might be, but now I wonder. Are you man enough to stand up and say: “I to have seen the Redwood!”?

          • I am I am and I shall stand tall and proud!

          • Sapfo

            YEAH!
            Now, go and find Wally!

          • LOL. You urge me toward my better self.

            *bows in gratitude.*

          • Leeet’s just say that a certain ‘thing’ has been so prominent a couple of times in the Teahouse comic that I felt it needed a name and called it Mr. Redwood .. and that name has used ever since.

            Mr. Redwood gets a lot of attention on every page he appears on .. to the point where we (read: I) even made a character profile xD

          • Yes. The sage Sapfo has shared such a page with me and your discretion fills me with awe. Never has visual tumescence been described so discreetly. Plaudits to you both! 🙂

    • 😀

    • Holly

      Well we do have a lot to theorize over right now. 😛

  • Holly

    Well disqus is being silly and not telling me about new comments, so I am going to call it a night. It’s 5:15am after all. I am at my parent’s house and my mom rises at 6am, I should be asleep before then. See you all later. ^_^

    • Tina

      Good night! Have pleasant dreams of revenge!

      • Holly

        My dreams had no revenge. But I feel like I invented a really good Nutella Smore dip. Something about Nutella and fire…

    • Night! Er Morning!

      • Where are your morning muffins when I need them… (ummm I meant that in a polite raison bran way)? Mmmmm.

        • I think the minions have them. That’s all they serve in hell, raisin bran muffins.

          • bronakopdin

            And I just read “raisin brain muffins” xD

            they might even serve that in hell!

          • The Admiral is wise in the ways of demonic baked goods!

          • Zombie hell. For those moments when a zombie needs a little fiber with his brains

    • Sweet dreams! 10 is talking to the Beast right now. Eyes wide, licking his lips, getting into his discoveries.

      • And I’m going to retire as well now that 10’s THE SATAN PIT has concluded. Thank you all for this lovely night of telling off jerks from the past, excellent theories about Big Red and co, and Nutella!

        See you all soon.

  • *Pffff*.. My brain just had a quick thought about a reply from Anni that made me go ‘Nope, nope, nope!’ *cringe* as soon as I finished thinking it.

    So the perverted (devilish) side of my brain is debating with my more logic (nice) side all by itself o_O .. If that even makes sense.
    Hmm, I think the logic won this one *LOL*

  • Syncx

    OMG I’m seriously fearing for kyles black cherry ” limitations of human flesh ” your in hell save that for damned souls :,{ there’s just got to be a fitting punishment for Anne and his sow , how could you do this to him all your sweat whispers your caring Demeanour and talk of love, being evil or not isn’t that just beyond wrong to play so terribly with a heart , were are your rules ? We…..he loved you :'(

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I’m fearing for Kyle too, but I don’t think he can stay there. He just wouldn’t be able to survive it. Perhaps Laampros means to get Duncan and Sircea back and they can spend their immortality with him. And then he can indulge his curiosity about the limitations of the human flesh with them!

      • KiannaLeigh

        0.0 <– my actual face when I read your comment.

    • Adam Black

      there were never rules

      • So veddy veddy true… You see maybe Alex’s WOG was from a god who doesn’t believe that men CAN be raped. Did you ever think about that? So then no one would actually be breaking THAT god’s rules in THAT AU in THAT dimension in THAT artform so…

        http://youtu.be/zZ3fjQa5Hls?t=1m30s

        • Adam Black

          I think anyone would be a fool to believe anything a lying sociopath says who took you to hell as demon bait

          • Again, that explains some of my poor dating choices in the past… hmmm… this is better than therapy.

      • Syncx

        Well what about when anni and Kyle were on a date and anni said all the bad guys new their true identity and said they never go after there family or something cause its a rule ?

        • Adam Black

          Sounds like the sweet lies used to gain trust to taken Kidnap Kyle to hell.

          There are 4 parts to that sentence.
          (1) Everyone knows YP identities
          (2) Families out of bounds
          (3) There are rules
          (4) This is on of them

          Its a loaded with meaning. Is any part true? maybe. The best lies have a piece of truth. But I wouldnlt believe a word on faith.

          • ADMIRAL… Adam is going to make me get the douchecanoue out… he’s being right again!!!!

  • Western culture is pretty youth-obsessed in general.

    • xLizardx

      And both Duncan and Sircea are getting on a bit… I think it’s a perfectly plausible thing to ask for. After all, what else could they want? They have wealth, power, strength, actual MAGIC… I doubt they’d want to destroy the world, or something so ridiculously nefarious. They live on it too – and clearly, they want to continue to do so – indefinitely.

      I think this could potentially be quite an interesting development… we may even get to see, in cannon, what a 20-something year-old Annihilator would look like. 😀

      • Oh thank goodness… I thought they were getting selfish or self-centered or something… but that makes sense. Well I, for one, feel so much better. And the young, like Kyle, aren’t that useful, but at least they can be batteries for their elders. If we learned nothing from The Matrix, at least we learned that! 🙂

        • xLizardx

          Well… they *are* villains. He’s not going to travel all that way to the 666th circle of hell just so he and Lampy can have a girls’ night in… And it wouldn’t make for very interesting reading if they did.

          Well, ok, it might be funny for a couple of pages 😀

          But seriously, we need the bad guys to be selfish, or they wouldn’t be bad – and if they’re not bad, then who the hell will drive the plot forward? Antagonists provide dramatic momentum, but in order to do so, they have to actually, you know, antagonise.

          • Now I don’t really disagree with you from a dramaturgical stand-point, but it seems the standard get out of jail free card for any plot questioning, if we question any poor behavior. Torture Kyle… well hey he’s a bad guy he’s supposed to… go to hell and sell off boy for youth and power… it’s cool ’cause he’s a supper-villain it’s what they do… eat puppies for breakfast… no problem because we’d be bored as readers if he didn’t. I’m just not sure it makes for a very good plot dissection and discussion. Again not that you’re wrong per se, it’s just it seems a sort of standard gimme…

          • xLizardx

            I think it depends whether we see him primarily as a bad guy or as a potential love interest. If it’s the former, then yes, I think dramatic reasons are a valid excuse for his behaviour – not *morally*, but in terms of the narrative. However, if he is still portrayed as a love interest, unless some *serious* redemption goes on, then that would be substantially more dubious, as it would imply that not only is such behaviour expedient to portray dramatically, but that it is also forgivable morally speaking.

            I think Alex as a writer is very sensitive to such concerns though, and I very much doubt he’d have Kyle take Duncan back after this, unless Duncan were to have a complete change of character, and do something really admirable and uncontestably awesome to prove it [like saving thousands of lives and/or the world, renouncing his old ways and old companions, and literally grovelling for forgiveness].

            I do take your point though – at what point does torture or sadism become unacceptable, even as a plot device? Is it twisted or voyeuristic for us to read about a character getting tormented, even if that torment is definitely portrayed as a very negative thing? I personally think that where you draw the line depends upon the content, situation, and yes, individual perception of the reader. In this case, I’d personally say that I don’t have a problem with it, because a. I do not believe that it is portrayed in a tasteless manner, and b. I trust Alex’s writing: torment is not the object of the plot, merely an aspect of it.

            However, I concede I intensely dislike so-called “torture-porn” movies like the Saw franchise, etc – whilst I don’t mind watching a film that *contains* graphic violence, I don’t like films where graphic violence is basically the entire point and/ or most of the content.

          • There’s no question I’m agreeing with you points. What interesting is that there is two discussions always happening simultaneously. How we are reaction to what IS happening dramatically and how we think Alex as author is technically handling or will handle the unfolding of events. Interesting thoughts either way. Thanks.

          • xLizardx

            That’s alright, thank you too! It’s great how much the fans of this comic are prepared to analyse and discuss it – or alternatively just post flippant, humorous comments, which are equally enjoyable. 🙂

            Usually if I post such a similar sort of comment elsewhere, any reply consists of: “tl;dr”.

            I like your point in your other comment about blaming Duncan versus perceiving him as a catalyst – I kind of think that we have to see him as both, although it’s a bit dualistic. Dramatically, he is a “good” thing, but within the context of the story, that’s still no excuse for his behaviour: if his actions eventually have a positive outcome for Kyle by setting him on an ultimately triumphant character arc, then I think that he is still sufficiently removed in intention from the results of those actions to be considered in any way exonerated.

            If a person does something innocent, like park their car in a parking space, and then this innocent action leads to unforeseeable tragic consequences [unbeknownst to them, a secret agent was chasing a criminal mastermind in the sewers below the city, but was grievously wounded, and struggled to the nearest manhole, only to discover that a car was parked on top of it, and then he was trapped and died of his wounds] then, in terms of *causation* the car owner could be considered to be at least partly responsible for the man’s death – but not in terms of either intention, or recklessness. There’s no way that he could have foreseen such bizarre consequences to his actions, and he certainly didn’t intend them.

            That was probably a real awful imaginary example, but you get my drift. Duncan is still a bad person, so far, because at this point any good that arises from his actions will have been completely inadvertent. 🙂

          • Great reply. Thank you. And I forgot to say that I have exactly the same reaction to “torture porn” and you differentiate it perfectly. Is the violation and suffering an aspect or the purpose?

            BTW — what does your reference to “tl;dr” mean?

            Anyway, re t-porn, when Kyle’s suffering or Duncan’s actions are there for our enjoyment, but presented in such a way that the reader can fool himself and say, “no I don’t REEEEAALLLY enjoy watching the bad-character kill puppies… I’m watching for ‘other’ reasons.” Then I have to roll my eyes because the action could have been achieved in other ways. So what is the reason?

            Hypothesizing about why Alex chose a ‘sexualized’ betrayal is interesting.

            Purely dramatically I think he effectively achieved a huge emotional swing for some of us. Certainly, I understood the concept of super villain so I was prepared for some bad thing to happen… but I (as reader) was totally suckered into the idea that it would be somewhere else (I never imagined the “bad thing” being so sexualized or happening in bed and being directly serviced by the sexual/trust betrayal of Kyle. I was thoroughly fooled.

            That I was so suckered was hugely emotional because as a reader, I couldn’t blame Kyle. If you go back and re-read (dumb me, did that) Duncan does a masterful job (as does Alex) in gaining Kyle (and the reader’s) trust.

            So, as you say, looking at it dualistically, it worked in both directions…

            I was mad at Duncan as a character for disappointing me by being so cruel to (Kyle) a character I could remember — a young inexperienced emotionally needy gay boy that I could relate to in ways perhaps others who bring different pov’s might not (?).

            And after I sorted it — I was mad at Alex for taking a character he’d made me ‘like’ (sucker me) and even though I KNEW he was a super villain, I didn’t want him to be. I wanted him to change so he and Kyle could have an unusual romance (age difference and all that) and I was upset for a moment for being fooled and that MY version of the plot-line couldn’t be carried out because the door is closed (perhaps for me only). Duncan may be redeemable for others (by saving a billion starving orphans or puppies or having rainbows shoot out of his butt), but for me if Kyle takes him back now… then I have to write Kyle off as a sucker. One of those abused individuals who returns to their abuser (we all know how real that is). How do I admire Kyle if he does that?

            So I’m just agreeing with you that Alex has created a very compelling dualistic conundrum in this story which only becomes tougher as plot line possibilities become more limited and we have to let our favorite possibles go, in order to pick up new and unexpected paths.

            Thanks. Fun chat.

          • xLizardx

            The “too long, didn’t read” reference was because I tend to leave long comments on EVERYTHING, like for example, random Facebook pictures, news articles, comedy articles… anything, really. Frequently, people aren’t interested in reading my comments, much less leaving a detailed, articulate reply – so I was just [appreciably!] noting the difference. 🙂

            I suppose you can argue that Kyle’s suffering is there for our enjoyment in that it’s an aspect of the plot, and furthers the story – I don’t think that it’s presented in a titillating manner though – although, yes, that interpretation is subjective. He is tied down, and yes, he is naked – however, the “camera” hasn’t given us lingering shots of his incapacitated form, or close-ups of his terror. I suppose partially this is down to individual interpretation though, because after all, comics are a static medium. Only the reader can choose how long to examine each individual panel.

            I think from an authorial perspective, choosing a sexualised betrayal is a very effective way to create a sense of shock and horror – in many respects, in our society, sexual crimes are considered more heinous even than murder. Although Duncan hasn’t technically raped Kyle, he has still persuaded him to engage in sexual acts under completely false pretences [which could in fact, qualify as rape in some countries]. Moreover, I think that we, as a culture, tend to place personal interactions in a sort of separate, more significant box, if that makes sense – for example, we would think of a mass-murderer who loves his children as less evil than a mass murderer who killed his own children – even though both have committed reprehensible, and unspeakable acts.

            There’s a sense that insincerity, or even callousness, cruelty and vindictiveness is somewhat excusable in your professional/ financial/ impersonal life, but in interactions of the heart, it would be far more morally suspect to be remotely disingenuous.

            I think that this is partially a result of pragmatism/ social structure/ capitalism: a certain degree of ruthlessness is necessary in order to earn a living. I also think that it is partially due to a hangover, if you will, of lingering religious perception: to sex, love, and everything in between, we attach a complicated code of conduct, and moral preconceptions that frequently, are absolutely illogical: for example, the castigation of promiscuity. Traditionally, religions have encouraged faithfulness for a number of reasons: historical lack of contraception/ treatment for STIs, a method of controlling devotees, and of course, assured progeny providing a certain means of passing down wealth through generations, hence propping up the feudal system and by extension the medieval church.

            Add to that the power of common experience – as you point out, you’ve been a young gay guy feeling much like Kyle – and even for those of us who aren’t gay, or aren’t guys, I think that most people can relate to being young, and confused by their feelings, or being in some sense betrayed by a boyfriend or girlfriend. Who, reading Kyle’s story, could not help but recall times in their own lives where they’ve been deceived, affection has been unrequited, or when they’ve made a mistake, no matter how justifiable? And in Kyle’s case, as you say, it was justifiable – Duncan was silver-tongued, as well as silver-haired.

            I wasn’t angry at Alex for the change in tone, because [and I know that this may sound like a stupid argument] I like characters to be consistent with their descriptions: The Annihilator was presented to us, supposedly, as one of the most powerful/ dangerous super-villains on the planet – but initially, although awesome, he didn’t seem particularly villainous. In that instance, I think a degree of tension and plausibility is lost, because a. it’s hard for the character to seem convincingly dangerous, and b. it’s hard for anything else to seem convincingly dangerous if the *ultimate* point by which we are measuring danger within the universe seems… well, a little toothless. This way, however, the tension and danger has escalated considerably – along with our expectations. 🙂

            I personally don’t think that anyone is beyond redemption [especially in fiction] if they *truly* exhibit a change of heart, however, the trick is making that transition plausible as a writer or director. Alex could accomplish it, I’ve no doubt, but it would of course, take time, and even if Duncan were to redeem himself in-universe, I think it would take a long time for the readers to believe it, [and an even longer one, for Kyle]. Personally, I do not now believe that he and Kyle will end up together, although of course, doubtless there will be more encounters between them in the future [probably of a more aggressive nature, mind :)]. Of course, Alex is a master at subverting our expectations, so I wouldn’t rule anything out… But, as you say, unless it was handled *extremely* well, if they were to get together down the line, there would always be the danger of damaging our respect for Kyle.

            …Aaaand thankyou. I now have a detailed mental image of The Annihilator, in full regalia, shitting rainbows like a unicorn haha. This needs to be drawn. 🙂

          • Other readers can breathe a sigh of relief, I have NO long-winded reply to that very interesting and thoughtful post. Great stuff.

            I agree with everything you said. Even the final paragraph you qualified well. The question that plagues so many, is not so much Duncan’s redeem-ability but, as you say, anyone CAN be redeemed. Rather the big question is still, can that redemption cause him to be reconciled to Kyle.

            I noticed some readers went quiet and some did not after Duncan’s harsher actions. I’m sure that some have come to their own conclusion and it has effected the totality of their read and of course that is okay in either direction. Duality… as we said previously.

            Some will like Duncan’s new ruthlessness and see that as the proper truth for a super villain, while some will only see it as forever separating him from Kyle and thus ruining a hoped for romance, which is okay too.

            Interesting stuff.

            As I’ve said in other places I was one whose emotions Alex manipulated perfectly. I thought the unusual course he was taking was showing us a super villain in an unusual light so when the turn toward normality came, I was truly punked. Good drama for sure.

            Now I’m just fascinated to see how he goes wherever he goes. The only thing that will disappoint me is if he reunites Duncan and Kyle without making me believe it, which is a tall order after the size of Duncan’s betrayal.

            But, as you say, Alex is a master and I wouldn’t put it past his skill set at this point, but I personally have no idea how he’d choose to do it.

            Good fun. Thank for this great post.

            – ChrisD

          • Adam Black

            I understand how you feel.

            Its for that reason I dismissed the youthbrigade when it was raised. It seemed just too damned obvious, and too literal a reading.

            But If immortality is an option, you are foolish not stop aging or be in your prime

            Alex at least fooled me.

          • *hangs head in foolish shame*

            Me too………

      • KiannaLeigh

        It’s sad. I read that comment and all I took in was “20-something year-old Annihilator”.

      • Angie Penrose

        And of course, a 20-something-year-old Duncan would be (on the surface at least, but that’s what matters to our shallow culture) a more appropriate companion for Kyle. [pondering]

        Angie

  • Dude,his face so close,I don’t like it.(Sorry I said his.Not his,this.)

  • KiannaLeigh

    Did he just call Plantinum a sow? Well. How rude! But I still love him. Points to Duncan for his loyalty but then again, he probably couldn’t have gotten there without her.

    • John

      Nor, I suspect, would he want to face her WITHOUT that bargain. I suspect her fury truly is hellish.

      • KiannaLeigh

        Possibly worse than Laampy’s rage. She is a woman.

  • Cydney Sabin

    He wants to live forever. And who wants to live forever as an old man, however muscular and suave-looking? My guess is he wants to go back to his prime. In theory, he’d not only live forever as a good-looking (assuming) young man, his strength would be in its prime, making him stronger, at least physically.

  • fujoshifanatic

    So this is your grand scheme, huh Anni? *shakes head* You must know that deals made with a demon 1) involve a much higher price than you bargained for and 2) do not get you what you wanted in the end.

    And after what you did to Kyle, I hope this holds very true for you in your “bargain.”
    >:-(

  • my silence merely means i an enrapt by the proceedings, is all

    al was too nice, giving hints like he had on future proceedings, i think

  • I love how all of the comments on this page are now basically about Nutella instead of the comic. That, or inappropriate stuffing jokes, courtesy of Canada.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Nutella and Captain Jack vs Jack Sparrow and demon schlong! Also, how it would suck to be turned into an immortal baby.

      • LOL… especially if George gets diaper duty and he has NO hands… wow… hell is rough.

        • CH

          I love that somewhere along the line the eye got named George. It reminds me of those old cartoons “I will love him and stroke him and call him George”

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        I’d bet you remember how the 10th Doctor taunted that demon before he left too!

  • Khun David

    …and Duncan comes back as a baby, forever needing to be changed, fed and burped.

  • Finzz

    You tease us with beefy demon bod and we finally get butt! I thought it would never happen. But then Adam continues to tease us with silhouetted demon meat, gah!!!

    Ha, maybe he’ll offer them both as playthings whenever Laampros’ desire inflames xD

    • I just thought Alex was reminding us what Hell was really like… hints of giant demon junk, but never seeing it for sure… 🙂

  • I like how there’s a pause before the word “gift”. Kind of makes you stop to think it won’t be all Anni thinks it’s cracked up to be. Which is what he deserves, karma and all. Kekekeke~

  • bronakopdin

    I dunno but somehow… those riddiculously small ears of Laampros…

    I can’t think of any other word than “cute” xD

    • Feverfew_M

      I feel the same way about his nose! 😀

  • OnyxLight

    This took a killer hard left. I can’t wait for the update!

    *is very sad he was only using Kyle… weeps for him*

    • Yes, even having worked through this “issue” with my on-list therapists, I too still have the occasional twinge that he’s just going to continue to do Kyle dirt. But (even for that awesome Dunc. butt) would you take him back after all this betrayal… doesn’t say much for Kyle’s self-esteem does it?

  • Tina

    Lol I just noticed in panel six, Lampy is casually stroking his beard. Maybe he’s part wizard

    • Is that a standard wizard affectation? No one told me?

      • WarGoddess

        Standard wizard/villain affectation.

        • Tina

          All that’s missing is a giant fluffy white cat

          • WarGoddess

            Yes yes and his name is Mr. Tinkles. 😀

  • asdf

    It sounds like Laampros is about to have sex with Kyle in exchange for Duncan to get immortality…..WHAT THE FUCK?!!

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    You know it just came to me that before the Annihilator was a teenagers, only people in comic books had superpowers. I’m wondering if this isn’t the first deal with a demon Duncan and Sircea have made.

  • Niggle

    But what will happen to his silver hair if he gets his youth back? 🙁 Not that I care, stupid Anni. XP I’m slightly disturbed by the use of “sow”, it’s insulting, but what does it imply to Annie and the PP’s relationship. Nothing? Anything?

    On a more disturbing note: you can totally see Lampy’s junk in panel 5. And Anni is staring, I’m sure. XD

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I think the ‘Sow’ insult is in keeping with the insult to Duncan on the previous page. “…Words trickle from your mouth far too freely like loose excrement from a pig’s arse.”

      • vessto

        Imho he mean one more person will receive the “gift” and this person is sow as Anni is.

        • vanessa hall

          I’m pretty when Laampros says “sow”, he means the witch that gave Anni the means to cast this spell in the first place.

          • Indeed.

          • vessto

            But is this the PP?

          • Many of us (including me) would guess yes…

          • vessto

            Because, as we saw, with Alex we’re never sure about anything.:D

      • Agreed. Laampy is consistent in his taunting…

    • Okay, I’m just going to enjoy pointing out the folk on the list who are completely fine with sex, betrayal, torture and hell for the gay boy, even maggot and pig’s excrement for the super-villain, but take umbrage at the word “sow”… really? I mean really? Okay, it’s your line in the sand, but …. (okay once more, can’t help it) really?? Here you are reading a GAY SUPER-HERO comic and you’re going to get all feminist about a demon’s language? REALLY?

      Well I’ll let you argue it out with the Laampster.

      As much as I don’t want to give any points to naughty mean Duncan… re panel #5… hell I’d stare too are you saying you wouldn’t? (ok, yep, REALLY?). Then look at the next panel, he does that classic locker room thing when the guy at the locker next to you has super pretty junk and you force yourself to look at his face and act like you aren’t dying to look down and check it out

      • Steven K.

        Totally support your consternation on all that. And as for the locker room situation, God I did a lot of that all through junior high and the one year in high school that I needed to take Phys. Ed. And there was soooooooooo much REALLY pretty junk bobbing around and swinging to and fro, etc. THAT, for me, was a number of years of HELL. For so many long periods of my life, I’ve lived the punishment of Tantalus in Hell. Didn’t even get to experiment with or touch another guy till I was 19 – then that one proved to be a royal douche in the year I was involved with him, and it wasn’t until I was 23 that I got to experience my next fellow.

  • vessto

    Still wondering what the flying eye is. Maybe it’s Laampy’s pet? Also, is it carnivorous? *shudders*

  • I gonna say something stupid and I am sure that someone already said it but… At some point, Duncan reminds me of Deathstorke from DC comics “Teen Titans”… Wich is funny because, I recently watched the episode “The End” from the series, and it kinda remind me what is going on right now. (You know Trigon rebirth through Raven body and Deathstroke who serve Trigon for this purpose)

    • Tina

      Oooh I love Slade. He’s awesome. Never noticed that before but it makes total sense. So will Duncan turn into a spirit and start haunting poor Kyle?

      • Steven K.

        Hmmm – If Laampros tests out the limitations of human flesh on Kyle’s, I’d say it will more likely be the other way ’round, except that it would be “deserving” rather than “poor” Duncan.

  • TheManBehindTheCurtain

    I see the typical jenie wish twist comming. Like Anni’s youth going so far back as to BEFORE he got his powers, and never aging further to the point where he developed them.
    Then he can be imprisoned “forever” for all his crimes he did as the would greatest super villian. Without his powers he’d probably go into a regular prison where he is not likely to be treated very kindly (AKA his pre-powers bullied days) and what he did to Kyle will seem tame in conparisson.
    I see bad days ahead for Anni. Such wishes need to be exacting explicit or your in for nothing but trouble.

    • Gooooo onnnnnnnn……..

      He’s cute… he’d be popular in prison. 🙂

    • 1stworlder

      If Lampy watches the news youth can mean a 28 yo black guy.

  • SteveMcSheffrey

    Youth is such a broad term. Serve them right if they become eternal tweens…

    • Bwaaaahahahahahaha… excellent… in desperate love with hairless prepubescent manufactured Disney Channel bands foreeeeeeever. Now THAT is hell.

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        Dealing with acne every day …..til the end of time itself and never being able to speak without multiple voice pitch changes….yes HELL indeed!

      • Ellen Harman

        High school forever, just like the Cullens.

    • Cat Astrophe

      Laampros would so do this XD

  • But since the beginning of this story (at least since the moment we met with PP) we knew that what they were looking for was being young again… both of them. It’s not using the “gay stereotyp of youth seeking” that we are watching now, but one of the three main reasons for a vilain to be a vilain:
    Reason n°1: Power.
    Reason n°2: Immortality
    Reason n°3: Pleasure

  • Kit the Coyote

    Warnings:

    Laampros may not be for everyone, consult your physician to see if you are healthy enough to use Laampros.

    Individuals with a soul should not use Laampros.

    Discontinue using Laampros and contact the nearest cleric if you experience any of the following symptoms:

    – Sudden changes in personality or behavior

    – Sudden weight loss or gain

    – An aversion to and desire to destroy religious objects and persons

    – Self-mutilation

    – Changes in personal hygiene

    – An obsession with occult materials

    – Harmful or violent behavior towards loved ones and animals

    – Nightmares

    – Sexual pre-occupation

    – Multiple personality

    – Memory blackouts

    – Speaking in tongues or strange languages

    – Changes in features like eye and hair color

    – Eye turn completely black

    – Unusual changes in voice pitch

    – Indications of psionic ability (telepathy, telekinesis, far seeing, precognition)

    – Arcane symbols appearing on the body in the form of welts or scars

    – Levitation

    – Speaking in multiple voices

    – Animals become scared in your presence

    – Excessive vomiting

    – Head turning 180 degrees

    – Spontaneous combustion of self or other objects

    – A desire to sexually abuse and use loved ones, particularly if a betrayal is involved

    • Tina

      Laampros is not for everyone, but it may help get you want you want. Talk to your doctor today and see if Laampros is right for you.

      • vessto

        Hot red man, horny ass hell and with super white teeth. My doc will say he’s definitely for me, to be my sub.:p

        • Kit the Coyote

          (Chuckles) Somehow I don’t think Laampros does submission very well.

          • vessto

            Everyone has their weak points, even the demons.:D

          • Tina

            I think his only weakness would be hunger for human flesh. Oh look, a little human girl. Mmm tasty snack time

          • vessto

            If you suggest he’d eat me then you make a deep mistake because I’m not a little but very, very big human girl.;):D

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      No thanks, I’ll stick with what my Dr. prescribed (fewer side affects) but yes I laughed at the way you put this together!

      • Kit the Coyote

        Thanks, most of it actually came from a web site on signs of demonic possession. hehe

        • Oh like you are so not reading off the back of your own bottle… LOL. Seriously, thank you for the best laugh I’ve had in ages. This is hysterically well done. Thanks.

    • Bahahaha!!!!

    • Steven K.

      “Women who are pregnant or may possibly become pregnant should not use or even handle Laampros.”

      • Kit the Coyote

        Possible birth defects or beastly demonic spawn may occur. hehe

    • KryX

      Funniest comment of the week.

  • Simba Hutchison

    I read Son first too and nearly keeled over!

  • Simba Hutchison

    Once again, my logical brain knows there is plot development and words happening, but all the rest of my brain can gibber about is “ohmigosh, look at that sexy red butt!” I think I may have a problem.

    • vessto

      I bet 99% of us have the same problem and the other 1% is still reading panel 1…

    • Steven K.

      “Gibber” is a good Lovecraftian word as well – not quite to the “eldritch” level, but I think it does make a fair number of appearances in descriptions of the elder gods or the effect that beholding one or another of them might have on humans.

      • Simba Hutchison

        I chose my words pretty carefully, though it may not seem that way all the time. :3

      • Adam Black

        Geber is a medieval Arabic alchemist.
        its the source of the word Gibberish

        • And created the well-known baby food on the market today… although spellings have changed with time.

    • Hmmmm? What is this ‘log-i-cal’ brain of which you speak. This must be something new I’m not familiar with.

    • KryX

      I’m amazed that I have any blood left in my brain to perform the higher functions needed to read and comprehend the dialog. I’ve always had a weakness for a nice perky butt. Even a big red one.

  • Tiswali

    So does everyone see the OBVIOUS GIANT wang dang doodle hanging around between Big Red’s legs or are we going to argue that’s his thigh muscle again? 😀

    • KryX

      I have to concur on this. The previous sightings were tenuous at best. This looks like a full on shot though.

    • Ellen Harman

      I believe that is his wing tip. Took me a couple of looks to figure it out. But, his wings are folded and that is where it would hang.
      Also I don’t think “it” would have two sharp points. It also matches the where the other wing is hanging.

      • Tiswali

        I see the tips of his wing, I’m talking about that shaded red area above that. Look closer, you’ll see what I’m talking about.

        • Ellen Harman

          Well what do you know! I had to blow the picture up you’re right there is something there.

          • Tiswali

            Type it. Type what you see there. Please? JK!

          • Ellen Harman

            But that would be rude. I don’t know what Lampy-poo may have named his second brain. Can’t call it private seeing how it’s practically in Duncan’s face.

          • Tiswali

            Ha! That literally just made me laugh out loud. Thank you!

  • So now we’re getting down to it. But will the eye be explained? If Anni’s talking to the Devil, what is the eye?

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      I think, Lovecraft style, the eye and the dimension as well as the demon are all Laampy.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      It might be a variation on the all seeing eye on the back of the one dollar bill

      • Steven K.

        Or akin to the “Eye of Sauron”.

    • Simba Hutchison

      I think it’s probably just part of the local flora/fauna of the landscape, but I’m not ruling out some kind of evil magic extension of Lammpy.

  • WarGoddess

    I want a Nutella covered chocolate chip cookie!!!!

  • Simba Hutchison

    I didn’t read any of the bi haterade you are describing, but I did ponder the possibility PP is a sister or something a while back. D seems to the type to be very protective of family, enough to make a deal with a demon for immortality and not just selfishly take off with just his own. Being queer myself, I get your offence at people finding bi ‘disgusting’. Its possible some people find it more of a betrayal that D is not ‘all gay’.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      Good to know I’m not the only one getting that vibe off Duncan, despite his ugly behavior. — far as the hate mess: That’s entirely possible. It just annoys the shit out of me that other queers reject bisexuals out of hand because “we aren’t all gay.” I am queer all the time, 24/7. I am queer in my sleep. I just don’t happen to mind what plumbing is involved when I find someone sexually attractive. I don’t get the opportunity to think about it and decide anymore than most people do. Being out bisexual has ruined some good relationships for me because of totally unjustified partner paranoia. BTW: The ugly nasty is pretty far down on the page now here, past the load button.

      • You know you make a good point. I hope my jumping on Duncan’s business for being gender fluid as needed didn’t sound like a bi-rant (I’ll have to go back and look ’cause, if it was, it sure wasn’t intended).

        There is SO nothing wrong with ‘bi’ or any other combo. What I was bagging on Dunc. for was the feeling that he is one of those for whom sex is an emotionless ACT… one used to manipulate others, of any gender, into getting what he wants from them like he did with Kyle.

        Thus my “gay for pay” joke. The truth is, if Duncan has a preference, we don’t know it. I suspect that if he does have sex with his “sow” that we’ll never know if there’s emotion or desire tied to that act either.

        But you are of course right in that, that has nothing to do with being a true bi-sexual.

        • Steven K.

          Alex did comment at one point about his story being about superheros “(and at least one supervillain) who just happen to be gay”, so that might be some indication of orientational intent.

      • 1stworlder

        If your boyfriend is gay you can trust him if he is home alone with the cleaning lady.

        • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

          You can trust your bisexual boyfriend just as much. (Because you don’t know, the cleaning lady may be rocking a cock.) Bisexual doesn’t mean “Jump in bed with whatever moves”. It means “sexually attracted to other human beings like myself and different from myself”– doesn’t mean you have to act on the attraction. To expect betrayal because your partner is bisexual is dehumanizing to your partner. You are behaving as if your partner is an animal, unable to reason, rather than a man.

        • I think you just proved the OP’s comment about prejudice against bisexuals.
          You’re pretty much saying that a bisexual boyfriend couldn’t be trusted to be home alone with a cleaning lady. That’s like saying your gay boyfriend couldn’t be home alone when the male poolboy/gartner/ (insert a job) comes by.
          What it’s actually saying is that YOU have a trust issue with your partner.

  • Steven K.

    Good points. And – I don’t feel like going back and checking, but did Duncan really say that he was lonely? If he did, then that just makes all of this and his betrayal of Kyle even more bitter, just like his telling Kyle that he would always be safe with him, etc.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      That’s the way I’m reading it, several comments actually– thought it largely depends on how much of what he told Kyle was truth. And yeah, I think this is bitter for both of them– he is doing to Kyle, in condensed form, what was done to him– a timid kid, bullied and taken advantage of. The abused becomes the abuser. He probably expects Kyle to turn out similarly– and it may be why he extended the demented little olive branch he did.

  • ladyaoi

    HAHA i did the same thing I swore it said “son” I thought OOOO that be interesting but no….still great thought ^_^

  • Cat Astrophe

    Me: Please don’t give him Kyle, pleasedon’tgivehimKyle, DON’T DO IT MAN!

  • Klaus

    Tune in this Wednesday, when you will hear Laampros say: “Throw in the boy and it’s a deal.”

  • Klaus

    What does “sow” mean in this context? I have once seen it used meaning “mother”. This was in a novel called, IIRC, “The Wilderness of Four”, where the characters are speaking animals. The protagonist, a bear, reminds himself that some other characters must have “sows” who love them. However, I have not been able to find anything about this use. Wiktionary does not list it, e.g.

    • Hmm, maybe I missed something because English isn’t my first language, but I just took it as another insult from Laampy, just like he keeps calling Anni a ‘maggot’.
      So I read it as Laampros is actually calling Sircea a sow. A sow is often just a ‘breading machine’ and/or an older female pig, so calling Sircea a sow is some insult.
      Now I don’t know if I got the meaning of what Laampros said wrong o.O

      (A female bear is also called a sow)

      • I think you’re spot on, Danish. Sow is an insult to a female, usually.

        • WarGoddess

          Yeah, what woman in their right minds wants to be compared to a female pig? Ugh.

          • LadyRhapsody

            Depends. I heard the orgasm for a pig lasts a very long time, especially compared to a human’s. 😉

          • I believe the time was 30 minutes.

          • Sharon Kerr-Bullian

            That would be correct.

          • The things I remember. 🙂

          • WarGoddess

            That would be a perk. 😀

          • Adam Black

            male pigs have corskscrew penises.

            Its a literal screw.

          • WarGoddess

            *Already knows this, but still flails around screaming in terror*

          • This is probably why the female pig has a 30 min. orgasm.

          • This is probably why the female pig has a 30 min. orgasm.

          • Adam Black

            youd like it have had a corkscrew shaped place for it.

            Ducks are even weirder

          • Goes a long way toward explaining a few dates I’ve had.

      • Amanda

        Calling a woman a Sow in any language is an insult.

        • So true, but calling a woman a sow vs. betraying her then chaining her to a flaming bed so she can be transported to hell and sold off for some super villain’s immortality fetish would be worse… no?

          I’d go with ‘sow’… but I’m just that way… if I was a woman… mmm… actually even as a man… ‘sow’ it is!

    • Firebirds1

      a sow is a female pig and since he’s been referring to anni with pig terminology, I’m guessing that the female pig here is the Platinum Priestess

      • Klaus

        But he says “your sow”, implying that the sow-ness is a relationship. Or maybe I am just overanalyzing.

    • Simba Hutchison

      (Edit: My bad, i didnt see someone said the same thing earlier.) Making it possesive (“your”) does make it interesting. I was assuming that he meant D’s lover, but assuming things in this comic never really pans out. :3

  • KryX

    Seems Laampros wants to take human form to experience “limitations of human flesh.” Could he be about to mess with Kyle from the inside instead of the outside? Maybe possession, that’s a demon’s specialty.
    I also noticed Duncan did not mention what species of animal he wants to be for eternity. With all the porcine references, he may be in for a surprise.

    • I hadn’t thought of Duncan giving L. Kyle to possess so he can be sent back enjoy human flesh a la Kyle… so then does Laampy gets to mess with the YPs pretending to be Kyle? Obvious? Would Spooks notice? Mmmm if someone explored this avenue, so sorry, I missed it. Interesting…

    • WarGoddess

      Oh God, Laampurru-kun is going to turn Duncan into a piglet, Sircea’s gonna be a spider, and Kyle’s probably going to be turned into something cuddly, like a lamb. We’re gonna have a story called Sircea’s web now, lol. 😀

  • WarGoddess

    So excited to see a young Duncan!!!
    I’m so excited!!
    And I just can’t hide it!!
    I’m about to lose control and I think I like it!!! XD

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      I’m disappointed. Sexy silver bear is going to be all… hairless and… teenagery. :/

      • WarGoddess

        Not necessarily, my fiancée was a bear when he was in freshman year of highschool. And with this type of youth, Duncan may be wanting to go back to his prime, around his mid-twenties or so. He’s gonna be sexy. 😉

        • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

          But it turns the story into “nobody over 50 is queer”. There’s already a wealth of hot young men running around in this comic (Spooky and Paul, besides Kyle). Taking the singular hot older man and making him young is a waste.

          • WarGoddess

            Well, he could be in his thirties or so maybe.

          • Steven K.

            I very much agree. Some of us in the over 40 crowd like being represented for a change, and even better if we can be represented as still being desirable, etc. (though not so much being represented as villainous or predatory, but I’m told that is just an artifact of the character – that Duncan was not supposed to be representative of a group of people – he’s not intended to be the poster-guy for older gay men).

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            Exactly.

          • Again a most salient point! Thank you.

      • Deeply agree!

    • Darn it. Now I have that song on my mind *opens tab for youtube*

  • Xalun K

    So I should be paying attention to the story and the incredible artwork, but for some reason, the eyeball gets me every time. “Goddammit, just when it’s getting good, there’s that FUCKING EYEBALL again to ruin it for me.”

    Also, I do hope we get to see at least a glimpse of young Duncan. I’ll bet he looked much the same as he does now, only brown (red? blond? who knows) hair and less lines in the face. 🙂

    • WarGoddess

      I’m guessing either black or dark brown hair, because blondes and redheads tend to go white-haired when they get older. 😀

      • Xalun K

        Good to know, thanks! I was pretty sure blonds go white/clear, but wasn’t sure about redheads.

        So… Duncan with dark hair? Still sexy. 😀

        • WarGoddess

          Yup!! I know that about redheads because my mom is a redhead, and I also know another redhead who married into my family whose hair is going white.

    • Adam Black

      Finnegan never hurt you

      • Xalun K

        Finnegan? Is that what we’ve named the eyeball?

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          They naming of the Giant Freakin’ Eyeball happened a few pages back. I think it’s now George Finnigan Eyeball.

          • WarGoddess

            George Finnigan Edwards.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Sorry, I forgot he had a last name too.

        • Adam Black

          Finnegan has a rich backstory.

          • Didn’t he lose the rest of his body in a series of Duncan-esque bargains with Laapros?

  • Adam Irving

    Of course, nothing says what Ani will offer is something he already has or has done. Ani’s quest for immortality may take up future portions of this story (and Kyle’s attempts to support/stop/question such a goal).

  • Frater Gymnos

    Nice butt on devil daddy there. I like this twist of events. Just so they don’t take youth away from Kyle… or will they?

  • Amy

    Besides youth, if Duncan wants to be perfectly healthy, that means that he ‘might’ have a health problem.

    In panel 1 and 3: Dat ass!

  • nebi_lan

    oh dear, look at you! , you have such a charming smile (panel 2) hahaha x)

    • WarGoddess

      My, Laampurru-kun, what large teeth you have! XD

  • VanQuinn

    So I’m kinda hoping Duncan gets turned into an immortal, youthful pig. And that Kyle adopts the pig as the Young Protectors new mascot. Duncan learns his lesson about being evil and decides to be a good little piggy.

    • WarGoddess

      I love this!!! XD

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Immortal pig? Reminds me of Sæhrímnir. Duncan and Sircea might end up as Laampros’ pet piggies. They wouldn’t enjoy it.

  • Jeabro21

    I think that Anni has to sacrifice something or…someone to get his youth.

    The eyeball is probably Laamp’s secretary or security watching that everything goes right and nothing goes wrong

    Laamp’s has a really nice ass, I wouldn’t mind squishing those buns together

    But most importantly “regarding the limitations of human flesh” is he gonna have SEX WITH KYLE OMG I don’t know whether to be jealous of the monster orgasm his gonna have or feel bad because he is not going to be able to walk let alone feel his legs for a month after that.

    Anyway I remember pages ago that we talked about Anni and Platinum wanting Kyles youth and now here we are talking about youth. weird huh?

    • Steven K.

      Would the hypothetical “monster orgasm” to which you are referring be that of Laampros or Kyle? If the latter, I don’t quite think Kyle is turned on by L., judging from Kyle’s expressions of panic and horror/terror at being caressed by his pointy-clawed digits. May be difficult to orgasm when it’s someone/something that you are repulsed by or want to shrink from. In fact, speaking of shrinkage, Kyle’s male member might be shriveling up and hiding as we speak (under it’s shroud of flames) if that orgasm finally fizzled out at some point. As for “not going to be able to walk let alone feel his legs for a month after that” – well, that assumes that he would be alive after such a physical and mental assault, or that he might even want to still be alive after experiencing such a horror and unimaginably traumatic and grotesque abomination of a violation.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        I don’t think that Kyle can survive a stay in that place. If he does stay there the only way he can survive it is if Laampros decides to be nice to him perhaps so he can get back at Duncan/Sircea and screw up their wish.

        • Jeabro21

          I personally I think that Kyle has to stay since he is the portal between “hell” and Earth

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I’m hoping he will get out with Duncan. I’m tired of seeing him being used and abused and helpless. If he does stay the only way he can survive is if Laampros makes him stronger for his purposes. But I don’t know if Kyle can handle being in a hellish place like that surrounded by demons for long, after all the trauma he has been through already.

          • Steven K.

            I know. I’m feeling the same way.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            Same.

          • Same… actually is Kyle even part of this story anymore?

          • He needs to take control of his powers, absorb the chains. He needs to take charge of his destiny and stop allowing others to dictate it to him. At least that’s what I would like to see happen.

          • More pork and thy will shall be done!

          • WarGoddess

            Well if you think about it, Kyle was transported to this infernal realm alongside Duncan, which would lead me to believe that his unwilling actions as a portal do not keep him in one place forever. When Duncan returns (with or without Laampurru-kun), Kyle will still be with them as they reenter the mortal realm. 😀

      • Jeabro21

        I must admit I completely forgot about Kyle’s face of terror/horror and only thought about the cum, but you are right Kyle would most likely be traumatized by such a event I tack back my comment on Kyle and place it on Anni instead he deserves the trauma.

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    I speculated Duncan might be “Gay For Pay” because of a comment he made a few pages back. Quote: “If you hadn’t been gay, Sircea would have been the one to do all this (seduce Kyle). As it is, it was left to me.” So he more or less is admitting that he seduced Kyle because Sircea obviously couldn’t. Duncan admits that he’s been stalking Kyle for awhile and only seduced him for his powers. I think it’s reasonable to consider that Duncan might be opportunistic enough to pretend to be gay (or straight or bisexual) to get what he wants.

    • Steven K.

      Yeah – and was also an admission, or verification, that he didn’t really have feelings for Kyle at all – that what he did was “strictly business”. The only possible counter to that is when, after applying the spell, Duncan mentions something about what could have been under different circumstances, etc.

      • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

        Unless he was lying to himself AND kyle when he said the strictly business part. Self-Delusion, until we see otherwise, is valid because he’s a villain who monologues– especially in light of the manner he brushed off Hunter and Killer almost getting the better of him.

  • Ellen Harman

    She can’t be Duncan’s mother, I don’t see Duncan as being rude enough to call his mother by her name. Now it is a good point she could be an aunt, sister or cousin.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      I call my parents by their first names. Nothing rude about it.

      • Ellen Harman

        My parents say it is disrespectful.

        • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

          I would say it had something to do with our ages, but it has never bothered my folks.

  • Tiswali

    Duncan: “I want-” *staring directly at giant demon meat*
    Laampros: “-Immortality. Yes you wish to pretend godhood.”
    Duncan: ‘Derp. That’s not what I had in mind.’

    • KryX

      So it wasn’t just me then 😉

      • Tiswali

        In the same boat buddy.

  • Amanda

    I see you George. I see that shiny tear resting on your gelatinous mass. I know it hurts buddy, to see your lover fondling a fiery, virgin sacrifice, while being ogled by a sexy silver fox. Don’t worry I am here for you! I guess you can watch me eat ice cream on your couch, trust me, if I thought you had a mouth to consume it with, I would totally share it with you. We can watch romantic comedies and lament our romantic troubles. You bring “My Best Friends Wedding” and ill bring the Rocky Road, and a swim suit and some towels, cause I imagine your tears are epic!

  • Rae Goldberg

    ….. I think I’m gonna die from the anticipation… *flails* and it’s not ever Chapter three yet!!! X.x

  • Zeruk

    Alex you forced me to say this butt…

    DAT ASS BD

  • I was offering the suggestion further down in the comments that they might be twins for the reason why he might include her in the deal. As a twin, he might not wish to leave the other behind.

  • Madock345

    Am I the only one who sees the big dick on Laampros in panel 5? That’s not just me, right? Cause nobody else is talking about it, and it’s the kind of thing I would expect everyone here to talk about.

    • Steven K.

      If you peruse the comments, there have indeed been several statements, references, inquiries,opinions concerning that, so you are not alone.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I and others made several comments about it early on in the comments. And yes, you can see it in a couple of the panels. He appears to be hung like a whale!

  • Steven K.

    Did anyone pick up on the literary irony of having Sircea referred to as a sow? In Homer’s Odyssey, it was the enchantress Circe who turned Odysseus’ crew into swine.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      yes.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      That one flew past me, but I have noticed the similarities between the names, and that both use magic. I wonder if all this talk about pigs and sows is just talk, or if it’s a clue as to what Laampros has in mind. If Duncan goes through with it, they are going to get screwed big time. I was also curious as to why Sircea didn’t accompany him, or why it wasn’t she the one to go and make the bargain.

      • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

        Maybe the eye is her familiar, watching. Also, Duncan said that Laampros should have been warned to expect him– probably by Sircea.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Yes, it had to be her. Only the two of them know what they are up to.

    • WarGoddess

      Ahh, I remember that! I actually have a sketch in a book of fantasy drawings created by Boris Vallejo and his wife Julie Bell of Circe with her hand pointing imperiously, turning some unlucky man into a pig. 😀

      • Which brings to mind that episodes of the Simpsons where the Simpsons were playing out the Odyssey. Homer was Odysseus and when his crew was turned into pigs, he ended up eating them

        • WarGoddess

          Lol that sounds like Homer, alright. Mmmmm bacon. 😀

          • Of course he cried while doing it, but they were so tasty.

            Or was that his pet lobster that he accidentally boiled?

          • WarGoddess

            I would cry too, thanking the Lord in Heaven for a bountiful blessing of BACON. 😀

          • Bow down before BACON!

          • WarGoddess

            Thou shalt kneel before thy bacon lord!!! Tremble at the mighty tempest that is thy wake of his destruction!!!

          • And only that of a jar of nutella shall bring salvation.

            Or is that blasphemous against bacon?

          • WarGoddess

            A TARDIS of Nutella. XD

          • I am but a humble servant of bacon and my offerings modest.

          • WarGoddess

            I give my heart to you, pork, in the hopes that one day you will bestow me with the wonders that is BACON.

          • LOL!

          • Adam Black

            Time and Relative Dimesions in Spreads?

          • WarGoddess

            Yes, good sir, spreads of Nutella! 😀

          • Adam Black

            You can’t blaspheme bacon, it already is.

          • Mmmm bacon.

            Wait, what? Bacon is blasphemous?

          • Adam Black

            Torah and Koran.

          • That just means more bacon for us sinners.

          • Saint Admiral has spoken
            (cue mfx: holy choir kicks in)

          • Indeed I have. Indeed I have.

          • Adam Black

            that is true

          • Well said!

          • Now why is Bacon the road to hell and Nutella the sparkle path to heaven? Did I miss that day in school? Damn……….

          • Nutella soothes the savagery of Bacon.

          • AWWWW come one. No pigskin touching (football?), no round haircuts, no non-virgin marriages? I mean Leviticus was a busy little fella… heck guys who commit adultery get stoned… that’s like everyone we know… hey… BACON is heaven sent and you know it!!!

            Oh wait… sorry… no relig on the list… I’m outie…

          • And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy BACON. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out! Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then eatest thou thy Holy BACON, else thy shalt be naughty in my sight and thou shalt snuff it.

          • In layman’s terms:

            At the count of three you may stuff your face so spake me!

          • Note: Everybody who came for the Porkorian Chants they’ve had to be rescheduled due to a cold going around, but please join us for BLTs in the rec-room and we’ll announce the new chant time in next week’s pork-circular.

          • Picking off the tomatoes before commencing consuming. Anyone have any avocado?

          • Picking off the tomatoes before commencing consuming. Anyone have any avocado?

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verbotten.

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verboten.

          • Treyf is too complicated for me… I’ll leave the laws of kashrut to those who can speak properly of such things. Me? I’ll just get out the mayo…

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verboten.

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verboten.

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verboten.

          • Adam Black

            Holy Bacon is an idiom. W know this because its under the marital laws, and pork is already Verboten.

  • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

    — You know, Did anyone think of Sircea feeding on Duncan somehow? Maybe his powers are greater than shown, normally (his surprise at the power dampening field with Hunter and Killer seemed really genuine. I’ve wondered if it was just because it was new machine. If it was, how did two idiot mooks like them get it? If it’s been around for awhile, you’d think the super community would have known about it…), and she drains them off by prearrangement. Maybe he’s her puppet– and this exchange is his way to be free and release himself from her debt. Doesn’t make him any less of a jerk for using Kyle- but it would fit a lot of his dialogue, and hers.

    Speaking of which, Kyle’s powers seem to fall between somewhere between kundalini and the described powers of a seraph— both serpents of fire (that huge panel awhile back of him drawing off the fire in writhing spirals, and then this extended pyroclastic orgasm), reactive to emotional states. Both have some interesting implications for Kyle, if either is the genuine basis for his powers.

    • WarGoddess

      Interesting theories. They would make me stroke my beard, if I could grow one.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      We have to little to go on at the moment. She could be his wife, his mother or sister. Or maybe she’s just a friend and their relationship is mutually advantageous. Or she could have Duncan under her spell…

    • Steven K.

      I’m not sure I’m ready to buy into your first theory, though it is an interesting one. I don’t think Duncan is anyone’s puppet, except maybe that of his own ego and lust for power/strength/vitality. I think your second notion on the nature of Kyle’s power is very interesting. Although, unless Kyle’s peener was coughing up bits of rock/debris along with the “usual substance” (and the fire that many have been assuming was emanating from there as well as his other extremities) during his orgasm, then I’d be reluctant to use the term pyroCLASTIC. However, the explosive result of the second part of the spell, with the the fire and the raining debris, could be labeled as such.

      • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

        I figured it was one long extended orgasm (given what Duncan said). The second part looking like an intensification and a pillar of flame shooting out of his cock (I know Duncan wiped himself off when he got up, but that could have been leakage and his own semen). I was immediately reminded of pyroclastic lightning. I’m sticking with pyroclastic in this case. City destroying level.

        • Steven K.

          Hmmm..could be. That’s fair. I guess I’d say pyroclastic RESULTS of his orgasm then.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            As a writer, I’d say nitpicking frequently kills the emotional punch of a metaphor. You have to invoke a little of the coconut effect, no matter how technical you could get. Technical has its place elsewhere.

          • Steven K.

            Sorry about that – I apologize – it’s just in my nature as a science professor, with an undergraduate degree in geological science. Like Duncan’s nature as a villain, it’s sometimes hard to shake one’s usual role – in the classes I teach to those who will be practicing medicine, I’m being technical all the time, since the technicalities can often matter. No life and death situations here though, fortunately (well, except in the comic storyline).

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            No need for apology. Friendly conversation should be relaxing.

  • WarGoddess

    What I am thinking at this moment is maybe…just maybe…the thing that Duncan offers Laampurru-kun in return for immortality is a way to access the mortal world and send his minions over to our plane to wreak a little havoc. The way this would work out is by using Kyle again as the portal to make it back to our dimension, bringing more people along for the ride. My reasoning behind this gift would be that it appears to me that Duncan does not have anything noticeable on his person to give, and he obviously requires Kyle to remain untouched in order to make it back. He can’t be sacrificing Kyle, Alex already nixed that a while ago, and Laampurru-kun has turned away from his original intent of “indulging his curiosity.” That also brings up an interesting thought. Why would he say that there would be plenty of time to indulge his curiosity as to the limitations of mortal flesh if he wasn’t going to be traveling to our dimension? It looks to me as though mortal flesh is pretty scarce over in Hell-world judging by his previous comments. He already seems to have some semblance of omnipotence within his realm and has seen through a lot of Duncan’s faux-humble puffery. Maybe he can already sense what Duncan has to offer, or has figured out that that would be the only thing Duncan could possibly give that would be worth any merit to him. Laampurru-kun probably already has his own magical powers, so any kind of magical gift wouldn’t really mean crap to him, other than the possibility of inter-dimensional travel. His powers are probably a lot like that of the Genie from Aladdin; PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER!!! Itty bitty living space! He just needs a rub on his lamp. 😀

    • Steven K.

      Wow – I think that is a very astute analysis of what potentially may be going on here, even if it turns out to not quite be the case. It would make a fair amount of sense to me.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I think that Laampros is looking to the future about ‘indulging his curiosity about the limitations of the human flesh” when he has Duncan and Sircea. That’s probably how Laampros is going to screw them. They’ll get their immortality but will spend it in hell.

      • WarGoddess

        YOU SHALL FOREVER BE LOCKED IN THIS HELLISH REALM WITH ME!!! YOUR LORD AND MASTER!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! lol, sorry, just imitating what I think Lampurru-kun will say to them if that happens. 😀

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Something has to happen to make Kyle stronger. He is no match for Duncan or Sircea. Duncan is even immune to Kyles fire power. And if Duncan and Sircea do go on and get their immortality, then no one will be able to touch them. I can’t see Duncan or Sircea revealing to Kyle anything they have found out about him. So who is going to help Kyle? Will it be Laampros if Kyle stays behind? Or maybe someone else?
      Laampros seems to be the key here in defeating Duncan and Sircea if they get their immortality. He’s the one that’s going to screw them, so he needs a way to do it. And maybe Kyle will be the way to go for Laampros.
      I don’t think that Kyle will stay behind to be used as a portal for all eternity.

      • Steven K.

        I don’t think the suggestion was meant to indicate that he’d be a portal for all eternity – but maybe for a more singular incidence of Laampros transporting over to the earthly plane with a host of his forces to do battle here, or even just himself – escaping his imprisonment in his own realm to commit a little havoc over in ours.

        • WarGoddess

          Exactly! 😀

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          But does Laampros really want to leave his realm? He is god-like. How would he be stopped if he crossed over?

          • WarGoddess

            Well, he probably has some kind of limiter on his powers, a shackle, to be exact, that prevents him from using his own powers to access our world. He could be insanely bored out of his mind in his own realm with nothing to do, and have no goal other than to come over and play around with us mere mortals. It’s like a house cat. In the wild, cats hunt and catch their prey, but when they are domesticated and kept inside, hunting their prey is more of a sport than an actual means of feeding themselves. Hence why they play with their food before they eat it, if they eat it at all. Laampurru-kun has been forced to remain in his realm all this time, quite possibly in exile, and wants to get out and get his mental exercise. If he crosses into our realm, I have no idea how he would be stopped, but I suspect that it would have something to do with King Solomon, as he was mentioned previously. It is a possibility that Laampurru-kun crossed over to our realm previously, but was somehow deterred and imprisoned in his own dimension by Solomon’s magic. If Kyle and the Young Protectors somehow managed to gain access to Solomon’s magical methods, they could force Laampurru-kun back into his own world. Of course, I believe that Duncan and Sircea would have to be involved, seeing as how they know more about Solomon’s magic than the others. If Duncan truly has feelings for Kyle, (which I’m hoping he does), he could have a turnaround and help the Young Protectors out with re-sealing Laampurru-kun in his prison. 😀

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Well that would be one way to reveal to the world that Duncan and Sircea had something to do with it. And would make them outcasts. Also when Laampros went back he would take them with him.

          • WarGoddess

            Well, I actually think that Duncan and Sircea are already outcasts in our world, because they are supervillains after all. Outing their involvement in the plot wouldn’t really change anything, just show that they helped save the world after all. It could be kinda like Megamind! And there are ways to reseal a demon without it dragging you back with it. 😀

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            Yeah, but we know that people that make deals with demons end up getting screwed it the end. So if Duncan and Sircea go ahead and make a deal and get immortality they are going to pay somehow. And I’m thinking that they are not going to remain in this world.

      • WarGoddess

        I agree, and what you just said made me realize that I forgot to include another theory. Laampurru-kun has already proven that he loves to screw with Duncan, and has absolutely no respect for him or Sircea (hence the sow reference), so I believe that just to shake things up, Laampurru-kun will give Kyle some extra abilities in order to even his odds with our resident supervillains. This would be a sort of gift for being such a good and silent portal for the demon hunk. 😀

        • Adam Black

          Can you shoot someone who can control and stop fire?
          ( watches while mind blows )

          • WarGoddess

            Well, I’m going to guess yes here maybe, because there can be instances when Kyle is distracted and someone could shoot him when he isn’t looking.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            In real life yes, that could and possibly would happen. But not in the world of superheroes. Batman for example is always been shot at and never gets hit by a bullet. Most superheroes could be killed that way, but they never do, of course. Some fires are so hot that they can vaporize anything on contact, like the Sun. Anything that touches the sun gets vaporized on contact.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            I’m going to gloss over some stuff, but you can google this if you want and get a more technical version from various sources– With stars you’re getting into a whole lot of complex stuff, like time distortion as you approach the bulk of the stellar mass (because the core of the sun is rotating at close to lightspeed). Carbon atoms are pretty stable in stellar conditions because it takes a lot of energy to cause them to “split” (When a star’s mass becomes mostly carbon, it novas because it takes that much force to “use” the carbon atoms.). We’re sending probes into the sun to study some of the more mysterious behaviors of stars– so a lot of things would vaporize on contact but not everything would.

          • Steven K.

            Wouldn’t things have to be pretty darn hot to melt a bullet THAT quickly before it gets to you? Actually, even being smacked by a little pile of molten metal traveling at that speed could still be deadly.

          • WarGoddess

            I think maybe he is suggesting that the person who can control and stop fire would stop the explosive reaction within the weapon that enables it to fire off ammunition.

          • Steven K.

            I think that could be the case, though it would seem that Kyle is still learning how to control his powers – evidenced by the whole situation where he loses control upon orgasm, etc. and spontaneously ignites. Maybe once he learns to have greater control over things, that would be possible.

          • Adam Black

            You missed the point.
            It’s hard to “fire a bullet” , with no fire

    • Adam Black

      “rub on his lamp”

    • Simba Hutchison

      Letting Laampy and his goons come to Earth was one thing that crossed my mind earlier. I had wanted to this that D was not actually that heinous but he does seem pretty desperate.

      • WarGoddess

        Well yeah, you would think that a supervillain such as him, who has managed to stay on top for so long, would want to remain that way. Especially since the incident in Hong Kong where he almost died. He doesn’t want that to happen again. 😀

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Hmmm, has anyone though that maybe Duncan or Sircea might make Kyle forget the whole thing? Or prevent him from telling anyone by using another spell?

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Assuming he does get out with Duncan once the bargaining is over.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      If Kyle forgot this incident, there wouldn’t be much point in showing it to us now. Any reference to it, if he remembered, could have been shown in flashback.

  • Adam Black
  • december

    He is referring to Ms Platinum, right? I hope the term “YOUR sow” does not mean they are actually a couple?

    • I have my money on twins.

      • which wouldn’t rule out the couple… Cersei&Jamie Lannister, anyone?

        • WarGoddess

          Cersei and Jamie Lannister are class-one assholes. 🙁

          • well, and Duncan does a good job applying for such a classification right now…

          • Agreed… Is there a level higher than “class-one”?

      • Jesslc

        My guess is siblings

    • Oh yes it does… Duncan gets to wake up to that every single day!

  • Thanatopia

    I don’t suppose demons/celestial horrors that choose to look like humans’ mental image of demons accept iTunes credit, do they? Even as a deal sweetener?

  • Thanatopia

    SRSLY NAO though, glad to see the return of this plot point. So, all this for a contract with the infernal forces, eh? Things look to be getting worse and worse – this might end badly for Ani, and DEFINITELY badly for Kyle. (Though at least the wandering hands are elsewhere.)

  • TwilightDreamer

    gah!! That was torture waiting since last night to post on here.
    Glad to see attention has been diverted from poor Kyle for a moment at least. I was pretty certain it was youth Anni wanted, though what he could offer in return I’m not sure…though there is always that worried hunch with Kyles unwilling presence there…
    feelings divided right now…I kinda want Duncans cruel plan to backfire, but I sort of don’t as well…
    Looking forward to more! 😀

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I was just re-reading the page and noticed something. After Laampros talks about the “limitations of human flesh”, he says to Duncan in panel 4 “and clearly, you would not have the STRENGTH to remain here long”. It appears that is one of the limitation of human flesh. So that means that Kyle can’t stay behind because he wouldn’t be able to stay long either.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      Or it means that Kyle is something other than human.

      • rgleon9986

        Well, my theory is that he either obtained his power directly from Laampros or some other comparable “hell-dimension-entity” via ritual or he is descended from such a being (or two such beings). In any of these cases, he’d likely be more naturally acclimated to this plane of existance than Anni is.

        • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

          A seraph is a being of divine fire. Kyle’s powers might be entirely holy (this also goes for the kundalini theory– kundalini is holy power). I’m not ready to throw him in with Big Red just because he seems to have quasi-mystical emotion influenced flame powers. Fire =/= demons.

          I do agree that Laampy is saying that Kyle would survive a stay there– while Duncan (and probably Sircea, though he’s obviously had contact with her) wouldn’t. It may also have to do with the state of Kyle’s soul— which would be in much better condition than Duncan’s.

          • rgleon9986

            That seems perfectly reasonable to me. I just hadn’t brought up any kind of extra-dimensional entity other than Laampros/djinn/demons because that’s all we’ve been provided with thus far. That doesn’t mean other entities won’t be introduced, just that we haven’t seen them yet, so I didn’t see fit to conjecture.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            Duncan makes repeated references to god (implying the judeo-christian sort). Magic exists and has its own known laws (Solomon is even referenced, and his work was with angels and demons). We can infer some sort of angelic being from those things given that god’s mythology/theology includes them. Seraph are fire angels from that setup that fit the bill.

          • Steven K.

            Sounds good in theory to me.

        • “Kyle… I am your father.”

          *Alex receives legal envelope special delivery.*

          Alex: “Holy sh*t! No, this is from Disney’s legal firm. Someone fire up Kyle’s trans-dimensional orgasm power. We gotta get out of this dimension like RIGHT NOW! WHAT? Then MAKE HIM TRUST YOU!”

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Some theories tossed around have been that Kyle is some kind of demon hybrid or Djinn. Personally, I’m backing Phoenix.

        • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

          I think that’s a good guess, but a bit too Marvel (the Phoenix Force is a big part of their mythology) and would probably be avoided like the “Kyle, I am your father” from Big Red for similar reasons.

  • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

    Is it sad that what I am focusing on is how sweet it is Anni is concerned for his twin as well?

    • Isn’t it too soon to asume that she’s his twin?.. or are you not talking about PP. From anything I know, it’s still just one of the theories floating around?

  • Klaus

    in panel 6 Laampros gives the impression that granting immortality to two humans is a trivial matter. Is he really so powerful? Or is it bluster? Is this not just a powerful demon, but the Big Baddie himself?

    • Do you think that Duncan and whoever “his sow” is would have gone to the wrong baddie by accident. Whoopsie…

      “Hey I’m laamproß, The Shining One, but that name is mostly a joke my older brother started when we were kids. You want Asmodious and the Lusty Twisted Wishes Division. That’s hell-level 6.4, just down and to the left. HEY! If they’re out… pick up a copy of the Malleus Maleficarum. *waves goodbye* Laters.”

      (George Finnegan chuckles….)

  • And yet still is Duncan having trouble with the humbleness. Panel one, how awkward is he bowing?

    • rgleon9986

      He’s an anarchist. Bowing to anyone or anything is against his nature. Did you see the way he said “You should have been told to expect me”a couple of panels back? That’s not how you address a superior.

      • No, it’s not. I half expected Big Red to backhand him into next week for it.

    • Back trouble? Maybe if he can’t afford immortality then Laampy will have something for a slip disc?

      • Knock him backward over a metal trash can. It worked in the Simpsons.

  • KiannaLeigh

    Oh yea, I am so in love with Big Red and his demonic insults.

  • rgleon9986

    Additionally, I’m intrigued by the way Laampros paused before saying “… gift” in reference to immortality. I hope Anni knows that you have to be EXCEEDINGLY exacting in your language when making deals with devils. They will screw you every time, out of a desire to get the better end of a deal, or just pure maliciousness, if you leave them the slightest bit of wiggle room in the terms of a contract. The Immortality he has in mind and the “Immortality” Laampros is willing to give may not be the same thing.
    That begs the question… what exactly IS Anni going to offer Laampros. I seem to remember him saying that Kyle wouldn’t be physically harmed, so I think he’s out of the bargain… so what does he have to give? Laampros seems to be beyond a lot of the worldly desires that it’s within Anni’s power to satisfy.

    • Carolina Surita Bento

      i think the “gift” is more on the indication that immortality might seem appealing to those who seek it, but to actually be immortal is something entirely different. See the world go by, all the people you care about die while you remain… All the angst vampire books tread on such matters 😛

      • rgleon9986

        Well… that’s true, “immortality is a curse not a gift” is a pretty standard part of almost any fictional story that includes immortality as a plot device. I guess I was thinking too hard about it.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Perhaps Laampros knows that immortality is not a “gift”, but a curse. He’s definitively planning on screwing them.

    • Steven K.

      Duncan promised Kyle that he wouldn’t be physically harmed, but he made promises about a lot of other things which he broke or which were lies – why expect that to be any different, Besides, I don’t know how he can realistically promise that to Kyle, especially bringing him into a situation where, to paraphrase Duncan, his silence might just be what keeps him alive. That means he’s bringing Kyle into a life-threatening circumstances, where he may not be able to control the outcome.

      • Jakk Anthony Guzman

        Laampros showed an interest in Kyle from the very first. He may sense his nature or something about him. What I fear is that he may insist that Duncan leave Kyle behind as part of the bargain. If that is so, then Duncan even though he may want to keep his promise would be unable to do so. I’m sure he’s not going to let anything get in the way of his desire, not even Kyle.

        • Yes indeed he did show an interest from the very first… and we’ve been told and shown repeatedly why. It wasn’t that he needed a date… (sorry).

      • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

        The whole posturing about death might have been to make himself feel more powerful as well as terrify Kyle (first thing a semi-moral abuser does is try to justify their behavior to their target, which is half of what I think he’s up to– the rest I think goes like this: if he wants Kyle’s emotions on overload to keep the portal open, then terror, desire and rage at Duncan’s betrayal would all fit the bill– and with the threat, now he has all three). We can see that Duncan doesn’t appear all that threatened by Laampros, he’s continuing to be quite the horse’s ass. Also, from Laampros, we know that Kyle is not a pig, not a maggot, and stronger than Duncan– who is both. The worst thing Big Red has had to say about him, was dangling a claw over his chest and saying a bit of flesh sways humans so easily. I don’t think the peril is all that perilous, tbh.

        • All good points but Kyle is bound, voiceless and paralyzed and I’m quite sure that Laampros knows that. He really not going to get much out of taunting HIM. Not even a satisfying reaction. Kyle’s peril will come later when Laamp. can enjoy it……..

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            Maybe. Maybe not. Kyle being physically paralyzed and his powers bound in the spell has nothing to do with his mind or soul. Actually it’s the perfect time to torment him, if that’s what Laampros was after, because he can’t get away– he’s locked in the prison of his own body. The body becomes insensitive to pain pretty quickly, exquisite tenderness, but mental/emotional hurt can go on forever.

            Be funny if Laampros saved Kyle. Demons do things for their own reasons, after all. It’s not always for the “lulz”. If Kyle isn’t human, Laampros may see no need to harm him because he wouldn’t gain anything. Besides, if it gets around that Kyle is a doorway, Laampros might get new customers. Always a good thing for a demon. Sexy teasing and innuendo, as far as it’s gone, may have been specifically to torment Duncan– because he’s a douchebag, he hates rules (even if he tries to get Big Red to play by a set) and he did enjoy his time with Kyle, even if it was a lie.

          • All good, nicely expressed and interesting ideas. The only thing I’m not so sure about is your last line that, D-the-douche, “did enjoy his time with Kyle, even if it was a lie.” In looking at the end of that bit, he hopped out of bed really fast and got dressed while monologuing really fast. Sure his monologue was full of what I read as more lying and false regret, but there was no lingering with a boy “he had enjoyed time with.” He was outtie… pronto. All lingering came while he was ‘getting that trust’ so I read it all as false… going back full circle to my, ‘faux-sexual’ feeling about him. Sure he could have gone through with it if needed (for immortality), just as it sounds like Sircea doesn’t need real emotion as a side dish to her sex either. Either of them could have done the boy in order to get what they wanted.

            So I agree with everything you say, but I think it wishful thinking to imagine that Duncan then (or now) enjoyed anything more than ‘suckering the mark’ (his ego did enjoy that bit, but it need not have been sexual for Duncan to enjoy it as much as he did – I suspect he just likes the win – as super villain’s do).

            Re Laampros… cool… would be fun if it was so.

          • Steven K.

            Interesting discussion. SOTABH has some intriguing ideas, but I’d have to agree withall the points you made above – that’s where I’m coming from as well – sadly/reluctantly, but most realistically.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            That acronym is unwieldy isn’t it?

          • Ha, I thought it was just a hard to pronounce super name! It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s SOTABH!

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            It’s sort of a nod to the comic. XD I wouldn’t object to Sonny, if you guys wanted to call me by something shorter.

          • Sonny is good. 🙂 Less heroic but more friendly. LOL.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            The *May Have Been* that prefaced the whole thing about Duncan was meant to include everything in possibility– not so much actuality. I was spinning my wheels.

            But– the responses beg questions:

            You’ve never jumped to something in order to make yourself do it? Or talked bullshit over your own thoughts so you don’t have to look at them too closely? That’s what I’m seeing in those panels. I’m not ready to peg Duncan as a totally emotionless wad just yet.

            Then again I have a personal reason not to. I’m really hoping against Dunks being revealed as an unsalvageable “depraved bisexual” (or fauxsexual as you call it), as much as you have a reason to want to see him as one because it echoes your experience. I’ve had the opposite experience: being dumped on my bony ass by boyfriends who accuse me of cheating because I don’t behave like them. This has ranged from being self-righteous to trying to take a hammer to my innocent junk. So yeah, I admit that I have an emotional investment in Duncan being more than just a straw “fauxsexual”.

            Far as saying Duncan is selling wholesale porkies in general– lies work best when they stem from minor restatements of the truth. Complete bullshit is hard to sell. That’s one of the reasons I’m in the “he has some feelings for Kyle” camp– other than wishful thinking.

          • Yeah I can’t argue with the idea that “lies work best when they stem from minor restatements of the truth”. I do agree with that concept for sure.

            Well I can’t ‘know’ what the source of Duncan’s monologuing was/is… but his relentless and continued evil actions speak for themselves… and those acts keep speaking much much louder than words. If D. had ANY feelings for Kyle and yet continued on the path to do what he relentlessly clearly seems to continue to do, it seems to just get crueler and crueler (did you see Kyle’s face underneath Laampros ?? there were really terrified looks), then it’s hard to imagine him as a guy with any emotion toward Kyle whatsoever, emotion that we would consider human anyway. (Trust me I know others want to imagine a different Duncan… if I could, I would too).

            So, honestly it just makes him a continually colder and crueler thing to me. Someone who left humanity a while ago. Laampros is pretty right-on when he references Duncan’s desire for god-hood. That’s what I mean when I mention the term ‘sociopath’. Duncan is on his way to being the center and only important creature in “his” own special universe. Sociopaths do not see other human’s as the same as themselves so they are capable of any act because they don’t “feel” it as evil. You, I, Kyle, etc… are not human in the same way they consider themselves human. Thus they can do these acts.

            At least a sociopath is just a man on a mission and people like Kyle are just things needed to get their desires met… but to be a person who understands the wake of pain and horror he’s leaving behind him and doing it anyway… sorry (to me) that’s much much worse… much more intentional, much colder. You can say to me that Laampros is a demon so he wouldn’t feel any of this… after all this I see Duncan much more like Laampros than a human any more.

            On a different subject, when I say ‘faux-sexual’ it’s really in a similar sociopathic way. I mean a person who can have sex with any-thing for any purpose ($, immortality, etc…). That’s not the same as Bi… FOR SURE.

            I’m sure there are people of both genders and things you’d choose not to have sex with because you’re not attracted to them no matter how much money (or whatever) I could throw at you. If I’m wrong, then I’ll let that be your secret.

            I don’t know your specific issue, but I remember meeting/dating a lot of guys in my early days of dating who I’m pretty sure WERE gay, but were really scared and afraid that admitting to that made them less masculine, less of a man, and so they claimed to be BI. Because (to them at that time) that seemed more masculine.

            Conversely and totally unfairly, I know a lot of gay men who view bi as a “cop out” that fearful gay men take. For that same reason in reverse. It’s totally untrue and unfair to truly bi-sexual individuals, but it’s another evil that our phobic society puts on people as they grow up. The heart-breaking thing is the damage is all-the-way-around.

            That is entirely different than people who are truly ‘bi’ and live in the middle of that scale for both men and women. I’m old enough now to have met people who peg all over the scale from hard-core gay to hard-core straight to honestly bi… but it took some life experience to know that and feel it’s truth.

            So I feel your pain. It can’t have been (or be) easy if people were calling you a liar for honestly sharing who you are.

            One last moment of pontification… being gay, bi or straight has NOTHING to do with being loyal, monogamous, faithful, or good partner. Any of that is just about honesty. What ever you agree to with your partner in a relationship is the defining issue. I have some wild friends who are not one-on-one guys, but have been in good relationships for a long time. They are true to themselves and their own agreement so, while they may not be monogamous, they ARE honest with each other and their relationship works out well.

            Me and my long term partner quickly realized we only wanted each other, and so that’s been our thing and it’s been good. The key is the honesty. IMHO, the gender preferences of the individuals has nothing to do with any of that. So sympathy to you. It can’t be easy.

            Duncan is an awesome evil character on the page and I love watching Alex have him spin his evil web, but I’m also sorry Kyle is caught up in it (in spite of the good emo-drama it brings us). I just remember 18 so well as a really tender-vulnerable gay time when you hope for things that make your guard go way down. Watching Kyle get his heart stomped on so thoroughly is pretty real-world stuff.

            From your unique POV you’ll have to let us know if you think Kyle will be headed for Bi after this… we all just assumed he was gay… and as you well say… we don’t know anything for sure. 🙂

            Best,
            ChrisD

          • Steven K.

            Hey – what a great post/reply. I really enjoyed reading it (though maybe that’s partly because I also, as usual, very much agree with all that you stated). I’m still on the relationship quest, though, and I think it would be so amazing to have someone like that in one’s life, where you both feel so strongly about the other that you know you don’t want anyone else. I couple years ago (around age 36-37), I fell truly deeply in love with someone for only the 3rd time in my life (the first time was a straight-boy when I was 17, and the second time I was in graduate school around age 26). That 3rd time, I finally found the most amazing, wonderful, compatible, ideal guy for me that I ever met. And we had all kinds of interests in common, and he was so talented and sophisticated and wise and intelligent and adorable and mature and kind, and sweet, and thoughtful – and I loved just about EVERYTHING about him – the way he spoke, the way he wrote, the way he laughed, the way he moved, his particular expressions, etc., etc. He was truly someone about whom I thought “If I had him, I wouldn’t want or need anyone else.” BUT, it turns out that he was happily monogamously partnered with a tall, dark and handsome younger man, who had just finally moved in with him, and they were planning their future life together, and of course I got to hear from my friend all the stories of the romantic trips and times he would spend with his partner – all the wonderful things they got to do together – my friend even bought a yacht and they often went on romantic boating trips, etc. – so I had to hear all the things that I wished *I* was able to do with him – and knowing all the while that someone ELSE was getting to experience all of this with the man of MY dreams – and he didn’t, in some ways, even seem as appreciative of my friend as I thought I would have been. It’s tough knowing you can NEVER be with the love of your life, and even tougher knowing that someone else IS getting to be. And because of the circumstances, I was never able to tell him how I felt about him – under the circumstances (he being a “married” man and all, I didn’t want to risk making him feel uneasy or uncomfortable, or threatened, or that I had ulterior motives, and I didn’t want to jeopardize our friendship by telling him my true feelings about him So, here it is a couple years later and when I found out that my kidney condition had finally caught up with me, and I’ve had to go on dialysis, etc., I resolved that maybe I should finally tell him anyway, just to tell him and so he can know how I feel – not expecting that he would or should change anything, cuz I felt that if he was with the man HE loved, then I didn’t want to destroy or affect that, or make anyone nervous. I just knew that I wanted him to know I loved him, in case anything were to happen to me – I didn’t want to leave this existence without him knowing. But so far I didn’t tell him yet – as I want to wait for the appropriate sort of moment or circumstances (whatever those might be – lol). BUT – new development – I lately find out from him about problems in the relationship, and that he has found out that his partner is actually a crystal meth addict, and has cleaned out their bank account, etc. Now, you’d think I’d feel happy that their relationship wasn’t working out, but, I have to say, after I got off the phone with him, I was in tears – I felt SO badly for him and what he was going through – because of what I feel about him, his pain was my pain – I just want him to be happy and would never wish such terrible things to happen to him – since I know what it’s like to have to be without the one I love – I wouldn’t wish that on him. Of course that, ironically, now throws a wrench into my plans to finally tell him how I feel, because NOW, given the sensitive times and situation he is in now, he might very well think that, by telling him how I feel, I might have ulterior motives in doing so (that I’m trying to take advantage of him at such a vulnerable time or using his time of weakness to warm up to him) though nothing could be further from the truth – I’ve never even touched him in the past and have always been a perfect gentleman, in deference to his own relationship – for his sake, I didn’t want to do anything to get between them or make him or his partner uncomfortable. So that now leaves me back in a state of indecision. Right now all I’ve been able to do is tell him I’m there for him, in whatever way he needs. Any advice? I’m totally stuck once more and know not what to do. I want so desperately to tell him that I love him – that, no matter what, he is not alone and there is still someone that will always love him and care about him. But, on the other hand, I don’t want him to think I’m trying to move in on him during a vulnerable and sensitive and difficult period. Actually, I do have a strong sense that he likes me as a friend, and may even be rather fond of me – but I have no evidence that he would even be interested in me in a romantic way, even if he were single. So now I’m back to being a total mess of indecision again.

          • So sorry that I have no wise-thoughts beyond the painfully obvious ones that I’m sure you already have. The only route that’s ever worked for me is friendship> to listening> to honesty> to compatibility> to finally feeling like you trust yourself enough to step off a cliff and tell someone how you feel.

            Sorry, dorkily obvious I know, but it’s been the only thing to ever work for me.

            I wish you every good fortune!

            Best,
            ChrisD

          • Steven K.

            Thanks! You are the BEST (well, except for the one perfect ideal guy I mention that I’m totally crazy about and so mixed up over – lol). Though, seriously, I hope your partner appreciates you – you seem to be a pretty amazing guy yourself in a lot of ways.

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            Of Dunks– I’ll say this, yes, he’s a villain, but there’s no way tell what type he is. There are conditions under which his behavior might be forgivable. Example: If Plats is indeed important to him (for whatever reason) and she’s dying (maybe she’s cursed?), and this thing with Laampros is the only way to fix it (and he doesn’t want Plats to go through eternity alone), use of Kyle is still despicable, but it’s understandable. Love makes us all crazy– not just the romantic kind. That’s certainly not sociopathic, even if it is clearly evil. Yes, Duncan enjoyed seeing how silly Kyle could get over him (though we don’t know why just yet), watching his expressions when Kyle couldn’t see him, but a couple of those towards the end before Laampros seemed genuinely pained. I could see, under that setup, Duncan and Kyle eventually being able to be friends, even if they never had a relationship as such again.— it would be like hammer boyfriend telling me later someone in the next room had a gun to his sister’s head and the condition for releasing her was my pain. I might not date him again, but I’d forgive him eventually. IRL, since that wasn’t the case, he can rot in hell.

            There is an outside possibility that Duncan could be nothing more than a manipulative pragmatist at worst– we have heard of his “robin hood”-like good deeds other places from Kyle (they made the news). Unless he’s been stalking Kyle since he was a tween, that’s not an act he’s putting on for the sake of messing with Kyle’s feelings.

            I don’t think any of this poor behavior negates the possibility that Duncan might genuinely have feelings for Kyle, the human heart -even a twisted, damaged one- IS very complex after all. Whether or not it’s safe or healthy for either of them to indulge those feelings is something else.

            I would personally like to see Duncan have some kind of catharsis, not a heel-face turn necessarily— though that would be nice— I like him, aside the song and dance he put on for Kyle. He’s got a lot of potential.

            A weird thought: IF Plats is Dunks’ abusive girlfriend, he might have to treat Kyle badly to fly under her radar if he does like him. She’s a sorceress. If she felt threatened I imagine there wouldn’t be much Duncan could do to stop her if she had a mind to make him (or Kyle) pay. If we start to see chafing in her presence from Dunks after this, I’m going to start wondering about that more seriously.

            I think Alex said that Kyle was gay in the interview. I’m not getting bisexual vibes off him, if that’s what you’re asking, and he’s more direct a character than Duncan, who is so convoluted I’m not sure what he is besides pants-rippingly hot and some shade of evil. Now Paul and possibly Spooky, that’s something else. For Spooky, it is even more likely he is bisexual because under some rules of magic, contact with semen other than your own is a way to recharge your mystical energy– accepting his bisexuality may have been a part of his path to becoming a wizard. I know Welsh and Norse rules work that way.

            There’s not an “age” where the stomping stopped for me. I’ve more or less accepted that if I want relationships, I’m going to be stomped at some point (and according to some disturbing statistics I saw recently, that’s more common than it should be). Like I said above to Steven, I have extremely poor luck. Not just with guys.

            My last girlfriend hit me repeatedly, despite her vocal stance on domestic abuse, and generally made my life hell after I put my foot down (during her swooning over how adorable babies are– which set off alarms) and told her I was happy with her and didn’t need or want children. I am not a careless man. I was thinking of my child as a potential new human being (that I will screw up royally if I try to raise. I do not have the capacity for patience a child needs.) and not a badge of achievement or a fashion accessory for a relationship.

          • I agree with most. I’m mostly so snarky about Dunks just because he’s been so douchecanou (I just learned that word. LOL). I really would like him to redeem in some believable fashion. I just like pointing out that he DID DO WHAT HE DID DO… even if we WISH he hadn’t. I know, kinda dicky of me, but there it is. Still, I like him and hope he can be redeemed without Kyle being a completely spineless douche in the process. I have hope… I just can’t see the future.

            I admire your self awareness about being a parent. My partner and I talked seriously about adoption ten years ago and finally just decided we were awesome Uncles and that was enough. So we realized we didn’t NEED to raise children. Now I’m so glad. It was right for us. So good for you for thinking clearly about a childs life first and foremost.

            Great point about your statement about, “Love making us all crazy”… that may explain Duncan, but it doesn’t mean (as you well know) that Kyle has to be any kind of door mat to Duncan’s evolutionary needs. I just want them both to get to the right place… of course I have no idea where alex is sending them.

            Even being silly I suspect that D. and K. are gay… I don’t KNOW, but I think so. We’ll see out.

            Just to wrap, I have full faith in Alex getting through this in one piece. He’s just that good.

            My sympathy for your continued stompage… In my humble opinion, kink isn’t important anymore… everyone has their own journey in the bedroom (LOL or wherever), the only thing that really matters anymore in 2013 and onward is trust… having it is HOT… trusting that your safe word will be respected is HOT… knowing your partner cares for you is HOT. Everything else is just personal mechanics to me and what’s cool for you is cool. This is a very personal opinion… it’s all about trust, faith and respect… and if you get lucky… LOVE. Thus my own very deep personal reaction to Duncan’s actions regarding Kyle. He stomped the most important bit in my world view… the trust. So I’m excited to see if there is ANY cure for such damage. Trust, faith, respect… yep… the big three.

            Can’t wait to see where the boys go on this journey. Take care.

            ChrisD

          • Steven K.

            Wow – that’s a rather intense personal admission – I’m so sorry you felt such a trauma that you felt like ….well, with the hammer and all. If you ever feel like that again, you should get in touch with me – I’d never want to see some nice guy-parts in jeopardy, but, on the other hand, I have ways and the experience to turn related acts into somethng more fun and stimulating (into lots of stimulating – and SAFE – “cbt” play here).

          • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

            The internet: Free therapy with strangers. XD Took me awhile to decide how to respond.

            Potentially embarrassing personal admission #2: While I am pretty kinky by vanilla standards, having someone I loved try to mangle me with a hammer was not the highlight of my life. It’s not something I’d repeat. A great deal of interaction would have to happen before I built up that kind of trust with anyone else. I’m not the most cuddly dude on the block, which may scare off more normal folks, but I seem to attract the dangerously insecure psycho types in general.

            Potentially embarrassing personal admission #3: Electricity is more my thing, tbh. I like feeling like I’m the heart of a storm or playing lightning rod. It’s also something I can enjoy while controlling it (thank god for insulated foot switches), lessening the chance of an angry partner jacking up the juice all the way and electrocuting me in a fit of pique. I can trust enough to play, but it’s been awhile since I’ve trusted anyone completely.

          • I sort of answered your posts willy nilly a bit all over, but I did want to say one thing. You might be feeling you said too much or were too personal. I’d just offer up that I hope you don’t feel that or, if you do, you can let it go. We all have past (or even present) stuff going on in our lives… good sh*t and bad sh*t and it makes us who we are and shapes our POV of events and comments on them. Like our comments on this work of art… unique to us all.

            You’ve made some really interesting statements and shared some great thoughts and, unfortunately I’m pretty sure it’s because you’ve survived some really difficult experiences.

            So I hope you don’t regret sharing them and please know that I for one DO NOT JUDGE. I have my own dark stories as do most of us. IMHO sharing them helps drain some of the darkness and loneliness out them.

            Just wishing you some better times a-coming and less heart-stomping in the mix all the way around.

            I’m shutting up now. Good luck!!

            Best,
            ChrisD

          • Steven K.

            Interesting! I actually rather dig creative electroplay/electrostimulation – I have a lot of devices and toys and attachments 😉

  • Amanda

    Am I the only one that in panel two got the vague impression that Laampros was telling Anni to appreciate what he had?

    • That could be read that way. I was taking it to mean that there is so much pleasure to be had, but you don’t take it because of some sense of morality.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Whatever Duncan is going to offer Laampros should be something that he could give right away. I don’t know if Duncan can keep using Kyle to go back and forth to chat with Laampros.

    • Klaus

      He may not need to come back to deliver.

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      It may not be anything tangible that can be carried. He may have to agree to perform an action in the mortal realm that Laampros benefits from or default on the deal.

  • Midwestmutt

    I didn’t think the demon’s interest in humans was sexual. It sound more in the order of discovering how much excruciating damage a body can withstand without dying.Kyle may not return home unscathed. The Annihilator said his silence would give him a chance to survive but made no promises about what might befall him short of death.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      I don’t think Laampros would do that with Kyle. Kyle can open a doorway from Laampros’ realm to Earth. And may have other abilities that we don’t know about yet. Laampros knows that already. He focused on Kyle from the first. If Kyle can open a doorway for Laampros he can have all the humans he wants. I’m just hoping that Kyle won’t stay behind because he has suffered so much already. But at the same time, Kyle needs to become stronger. He needs to learn about himself and what he can do. No one knows exactly what he is. Someone has to help him learn what he is and what he can do, perhaps Laampros can for his own purposes. I don’t see anyone else who can do it at the moment.

      • Midwestmutt

        Duncan needed Kyle’s trust and for him to lower his guard enough to have an orgasm to begin the spell. I don’t think Laampros will inspire such feelings. But since Duncan was able to finish the spell after Kyle knew he had been betrayed maybe Laampros can use Kyle for his own purposes. How he does that I can’t guess at this point. Some other spell or ritual seems necessary. Will he stay behind with Laampros still bound to an altar to be used in some horrible way? Or can Laampros offer Kyle something that would tempt someone with such high morals.Duncan’s promises that no harm would come to him sound pretty hollow now.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Laampros is far more powerful and knowledgeable that Duncan and Sircea. If Kyle has that inherent power, Laampros might be able to find a way to tap into it in a different way. Just because Duncan used a spell that required him to have sex with Kyle doesn’t mean that Laampros has to do the same thing. Kyle would not help him willingly but who knows what Laampros can do.

          • Steven K.

            That seems true as well.

        • Steven K.

          I really relate with all of what you’ve said here.

    • Steven K.

      I know – that’s one of the things that freakin’ worries me – TERRIBLY.

  • Alan Michael Williams

    The giant eye is like, “I want perfect health without end, tooooooooooo!”

    • Steven K.

      “…A continuous supply of Visine, never to dry out or get red- or blurry-eyed. And not just for me, but the other eye too!” (Don’t eyes usually come in pairs? – The only exception I can think of would be the mythical cyclops.) There must be a Georgina or Gerald lurking/floating around somewhere. Actually, how do we know that the eyeball depicted so far has been the same one each time?

  • AliceVenturi

    Oh, Duncan, for someone so intelligent, you can be a real moron at times. This is one of those times, fella. Making deals with a devil – any devil – is generally not seen as a pathway to getting what you actually want. You’ll no doubt get something, but odds are that it’s not going to end up being what you thought you were asking for.

    And just what sort of offer would interest someone like Laampros? Duncan has said that he tends to disregard collateral damages when going after something he wants. So, I suppose there could be a lot of other people’s blood, souls, and property on the line here. I wonder if the price will end up being so large that even the egocentric, self-involved, vain, and arrogant Annihilator won’t be able to brush it off his conscience.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Well by making a deal with a demon Duncan will pay for what he did to Kyle, that’s for sure.

      • AliceVenturi

        The problem is, how many other people are going to end up paying for Duncan’s idiocy? Duncan will no doubt pay for Kyle, and for a lot of other things too, I’ll bet. But I suspect he’s going to bring down a lot of pain and suffering on people who don’t really deserve it. If the bad outcome just fell on Duncan and Sircea, it would only be what they deserved, but then what would be the point of the story?

        Argghh. Don’t mind me; I’m just thinking out loud here.

        I think Kyle is something of a wildcard; we (and he, for that matter) don’t really know what he’s capable of. Whatever it is, Laampros didn’t react to Kyle as if he were a threat. That doesn’t, of course, mean that Kyle isn’t a threat, just that Laampros didn’t seem to recognize him as such. I’m veeeerrrrryyy interested in what’s going to happen next.

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    Future scene with Laampros rubbing himself against Kyle:
    Laampros: “Trust me Kyle, give yourself to this, to ME!
    Kyle: “I trust you Laampros”
    Laampros thinking: *I need to open that damned portal!”
    Sorry a little attempt at humor. 😛

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I don’t think Kyle’s portal is big enough to fit Laampros in it no matter what magical potion he puts on it.

  • Has anyone else thought that what Duncan is saying in the first panel (it sounds rather prudish of him, yes?), the attempt at servitude by bowing (albeit awkwardly), is an endeavor to keep Big Red’s attention from Kyle? Yes, it seems like one more heaping of cruelty (I’m not excusing all his previous behavior), but if he acts too much like Kyle means something to him, he’ll never get the demon to change course.

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      That’s what I thought too. What does he mean by “inappropriate”? Inappropriate in hell?

      • Well, it sounds rather prudish if you think about. On the previous page Big Red tells him, (paraphrasing) Hey, why can’t I touch him when you were just touching him. So Duncan tells him it seems inappropriate, meaning well, it’s one things that I a mortal man touched him, but a big ol’ ancient demon such as you touching an 18yr old boy

        At least that’s how I’m reading it, especially if you look at it in conjunction with what Big Red says in the second panel about certain pleasures being “forbidden”.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          Yes, I understand that. But still, it’s Laampros realm. He is lord and master there and can do as he wishes. Whether it’s appropriate or inappropriate. Did you notice too how gentle Laampros was with Kyle? He was playful with him. He tickled him under the chin like one would do with a baby. I mean, I guess that’s what Laampros would consider gentle and playful. He could have been a lot worse and rougher with Kyle but chose not to. He never even referred to Kyle in any derogatory manner, as he did with Duncan and Sircea. As to his continued touching of Kyle, he may have been trying to find out what Kyle meant to Duncan.

          • Which is why I think he laughed at Duncan’s prudish answer, because it is his realm. Which is possibly what Duncan was aiming for. (I’ve decided that Duncan is a lot like Capt’n Jack Sparrow always seeking an angle to get what he wants)

            I never saw Big Red as being rough, scary, yes, but then he is big and scary, but rough? No. I agree that he was trying to gauge Duncan’s reaction to his proximity to Kyle, to his touching him, to his threatening him. He most likely wanted to see how far Duncan was willing to go to get what he wanted. Which probably lowered him further in Big Red’s eyes. I also did notice the fact that the demon never used any derogatory terms towards Kyle.

          • Steven K.

            Not to say he CAN’T be rough – especially when he starts exploring those LIMITATIONS of human flesh that he seemed so interested in investigating.

          • Pashakitty

            It’s funny to me that everyone assumes that Duncan was talking about just him and Sircea when he made his request, but he might have meant for it to cover Kyle too. I’m probably wrong on that, but I guess I’m still holding out hope that Duncan and Kyle manage to patch things up.

          • That is super funny to think about Duncan using words like ‘inappropriate’ after his actions.

            At least Laampros has him totally nailed when he calls words just like those, “the things that trickle far too freely from his mouth like loose excrement from a pig’s ass.” How perfectly he understands Duncan’s motivations.

            I guess a demon understands his own kind all too well. Honestly what could Duncan care about at this point? That Kyle might become scratched by Laampros’ nails and thus become marked goods, lowering his resale value for the next demon Duncan plans to sell him to?

            I wonder, being forced to listen to Duncan talk like that, if Kyle is more afraid of being left with Laampros or being taken back with Duncan? Talk about equally unpleasant choices.

          • Steven K.

            Ditto!

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            I have been thinking about that. Poor Kyle seems to be screwed either way. Duncan may have further plans for him whether Kyle wants to cooperate or not. Which leads me to wonder, who is going to help Kyle find out about himself? What exactly is he? What abilities does he have that he is not aware of? How strong can he get?
            I don’t see Duncan telling Kyle anything that might make him stronger. And so far the only ones who know something about him are Duncan and Sircea. And now Laampros knows too.
            There could be others later on in the story who could help him, but at the moment those are the only three.
            If Kyle stays behind, then it probably will be Laampros. But if Kyle leaves, then it would probably take a lot longer for Kyle to find out everything he needs to know. It reminds me of the song “Should I Stay or Should I Go” by the Clash:

            Should I stay or should I go now?
            If I go there will be trouble
            An’ if I stay it will be double

          • Really interesting questions about what route brings Kyle information about himself… Honestly I have no idea. Really interesting. I don’t see safety or wellness with either Laamp or Duncan so YIKES… what next. I hope Alex throws Kyle a bone (no not that kinda bone) just a little help/hope… he’s been down and out and hopeless for a LONG time.

            At least the kid needs a cold beer with his budies and a chance to rag on older men (sorry Steven… not YOU) just in general… or maybe a chance to rag on Demons… It WAS a really lousy birthday. Like reeeeeaaaalllly lousy. 🙂

          • Steven K.

            I recently found a super-handsome adorable local young man on-line who doesn’t have much experience and seems very interested in me to possibly date and see where things go. It’s a long shot, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed – but I’m NOT going to tell him about this comic, though, because if he sees what Duncan did to poor Kyle he’s gonna dump me before we even get a chance to meet, as he assumes that I, as an older man like Duncan (well, 10 years younger), will treat him the same way.

          • I’m sure Duncan knows whatever could have been between them will now never be. He made his choice. At this point it doesn’t really matter what Kyle thinks of him because Kyle already thinks Duncan scum. So he does what he can, says what he has to, to keep Kyle from further harm while they are wherever they are, even if that makes him seem scummier.

            For example: What do you do when someone has a knife to another’s throat because said someone believes you hold a care for their captive and can hurt you that way? If you don’t show any emotion or care, the leverage is gone, yes? This is a typical trope in historical romances. The woman is captured by the hero’s enemy and the only way he can get her back unharmed is to act as if she’s a bother to him or she’s of little value to him. He has to act cold or the enemy gains power.

            This is all I was offering as a possible theory.

          • I know, I agree… it is a well known trope. I was just being a Duncan-hater and not even a very honest one cause I kinda hope he pulls some rainbow unicorns out of his butt and fixes all this… I just don’t see it and I suspect my harsh words are just self-protection against the next time Alex (erm… I mean Duncan) “fools us all” and betrays Kyle to yet another Demon in return for a larger penis to go with his immortality…. yikes… I did it again. See, if I suspect the worse of Duncan then Alex won’t get me again when I look at his worried look at Kyle being touched by Laamp and think Awwww he really does care…..

            And then he doesn’t…

            So just to really answer your post… would you prefer Duncan to be het and doing this to save PP’s life because shes his great love? Erm… and then he becomes a dude who’d stomp and sell a young gay kid for his woman and that’s …. what??? Okay… or better?? or??? Honestly, I don’t know if any of it helps. Stomping someone is stomping someone… hard to excuse.

            So I like your observations and theories and sorry I’m being so feisty about Duncan… I’ll try and stay open until Alex stomps my delicate heart again and then I promise nothing except that I’m getting out the douchcanoue again!!! LOL.

            Thanks Admiral… always super fun. – CD

          • So it would have been a good thing to offer you a snickers bar? 😛

            I don’t think betraying anyone is ever a good thing no matter the intentions or situation. If he did it to save his life or PP’s life (whether honeybunch, sister or mother), sorry not gonna fly. They could have asked permission. (And I think it would be worse if he turned out to be het, but I’m pretty sure Alex won’t go there…please don’t go there.) Maybe if Duncan did it to save Kyle’s life, then maybe I could see a reason, but even then… 😐

            I understand not wanting to be disappointed and kicked in the heart again. This is a very angsty story (I’m surprised I’m still here. Me and angst are not bff). That’s why I was pulling out that old trope. *tightens life jacket*

            PS – Don’t apologize, just hide away that canoe. 😀

          • Awww you are the best. There is no BAD time for a Snickers Bar. You know that might just be how Alex is planning on enacting Duncan’s redemption… via a well-timed Snickers Bar.

            Our fun Duncan joust came clean to me when I wrote back on another post and unintentionally said that ‘kinks’ are nothing in 2013. Everyone has their own thing in the bedroom. The only things that matter are ‘trust, faith, respect and if you’re very lucky, LOVE’ It’s knowing that no matter what you two (or more?) are into or what gender you’re into, etc… it’s that the person you believe in will respect your safe-word when uttered (go with the metaphor even if you’re vanilla it works… a safe-word can mean anything.)

            And I mean that. Now of course in this post I’m referring to, I was talking about real-life relationships and NOT super heroes or villains or AU’s or good drama or anything else, but it is why I took Duncan’s turn so hard. For ME personally, that’s the all powerful THING. Trust, faith, etc… so when Duncan stomped Kyle’s heart/trust it wasn’t just good drama for a moment it was THE BIG BAD. I’m better, and I’m separating my love of good story-telling and good-drama from my real-life philosophy. Kalynn said she’s not BFF with angst. Boy in this case I wasn’t either.

            So I’m with you. Life jacket on. I’m strapping in for the next time Alex throws the big TRUST crusher at me (YOU HEAR ME ALEX… I’M WEARING MY TRUST-ARMOR PLATE HOLLOW POINT BULLET STOPPING GOOD STUFF… and I look good in it, I must say).

            I won’t say the ‘douchecanoe’ (my new favorite word from a fine list member) is in dry-dock just yet, but it’s put away… mostly… 🙂

            Admiral you lead a first class fleet I must say. I’d be proud to swab yer decks!

            All best,
            Ensign ChrisD

          • I understand and agree completely with what you’re saying. For me trust, faith, respect are sacred tenets.

            I don’t expect Duncan and Kyle to ride off into a rainbow encrusted sunset on a silvery unicorn. I just would like to see redemption and growth (and maybe some good groveling and a left hook or two). Although I wouldn’t mind an odd sort of friendship develop where they meet for coffee once a week. 🙂

            PS – You look marvelous in that TRUST-ARMOR PLATE HOLLOW POINT BULLET STOPPING GOOD STUFF life jacket. 😀

          • Coffee once a week can solve so many problems, don’t you think? (secret) and that vest can suck in and hide a myriad of issues if you’ve missed a day or two at the gym… erm… not that I have… just sayin’ 🙂

          • Coffee can solve many problems. 🙂 So the vest has and inner spanx lining? 😛

          • Indeed. I’m looking good and feeling safe. 🙂

          • That’s what’s important!

          • Steven K.

            Another awesome post/commentary. Share so much of that philosophy and feelings.

          • Steven K.

            “See, if I ….he really does care ….and then he doesn’t” – You and me both hun!

          • Steven K.

            It actually makes me feel the slightest bit better about all of that when you put it in those terms, even though Kyle still seemed to be in a state of horror/terror at Laampros’ fondling of him.

      • Steven K.

        Yes – I’ve been REALLY wondering that myself!

      • Steven K.

        Yes – I’ve been REALLY wondering that myself!

    • It bothers me that there was always this huge possibility Laampros would violate Kyle. If Laampros decided he wanted Kyle anyway, what could Duncan do to stop it?

      • It bothers me that that’s the first thing so many thought of when the demon was first spotted.

        Besides who’s to say that Laampros wouldn’t just tear Kyle’s heart out, or gut him while alive to see how long he lived? To maybe bleed him out, again to see how long it took. Or to see how long it took for his heart o give out from fear. There are other ways of interpreting Laampros’s words and actions.

        As for what he could do to stop it? End the binding spell, grab Kyle and run. End the binding spell, grab Kyle and fight. End the binding spell and disappear from that realm?

        Sorry, I think I need to go eat a snickers bar.

        • Ummmm golly geee… maybe even two! Yikes.

          • Yeah, probably two. Although I forgot to mention dismemberment (not that member, but arms and legs)

          • Okay three Snickers… (not that member… now it’s in my head!!! that’s snickers worthy).

          • Make it four. I just ate dinner and am looking for dessert.

          • Like the way you think!

      • Steven K.

        Uh huh :_(

  • davefragments

    oh rats… for an hour or two there I thought today was tomorrow and I was all set for an update tonight but since I was wrong (I have serious reasons to be wrong. Don’t ask. I won’t say.). However, now that I paid attention to today and discovered that tonight is not tomorrow night then I guess i will have to wait until tomorrow to see an update.

    • My deep sympathies. That is a scenario worthy of Laampros in it’s cruelty! Hang in… soon… soon….

  • Kalynn Osburn

    Sow?

    Hmm, the evidence for Duncan and the Platinum Priestess being together is increasing.

    • I’m awaiting Laampros’ use of the word ‘teats’ and then I’ll throw in my confirmation to back up your supposition… 🙂

      • Steven K.

        😉

      • Kalynn Osburn

        I’m going to be confused if they are. I mean, part of me will be disappointed that Duncan isn’t gay (possibly bi but not gay). Another part of me is thinking it would be more fitting if the betrayal was complete. It would provide more closure in the sense of Kyle and Duncan’s relationship. Allowing for him to move on a little quicker as oppose to holding out hope.

        • Jakk Anthony Guzman

          I agree with you. If the betrayal was complete then Kyle could move on and try to put it all behind him. But if let’s say, Sircea turns out to be Duncan’s sister and Duncan is actually gay and cares a lot for Kyle, then the story could become more complicated. Especially if Kyle can’t learn to control his fire when he has an orgasm. That leaves Duncan as the only man he knows that’s fireproof. Duncan can use that to try and regain Kyle’s trust. IF he keeps his promise to protect him and not leave him behind. We should find out in the next couple of pages whether Kyle stays or leaves. And we should also find out soon if Sircea is related to Duncan by blood or is his wife/girlfriend. And if Duncan is just an evil villain or a more complex character.

          • Kalynn Osburn

            I would say he is already a complex character. He does seem to care for Kyle in his own way. But…

            Okay I am a fangirl. I love my fics full of angsty romances that in real life would be emotionally abusive. But with something like this I would really REALLY like to see Kyle in a loving, secure relationship that is good for both parties physically and emotionally. He can not have that with Duncan. Not after this.

          • Jakk Anthony Guzman

            It would be interesting if Duncan turns out to be a gay supervillain vs a gay superhero. There would be an attraction there between them as well as conflict. Much like Batman and the Catwoman are very attracted to each other, but on opposite side of the law.

          • Steven K.

            Unfortunately, I’d have to agree with you – unless Duncan eventually does some major ultimate-type sacrifice for Kyle, but as yet I don’t see that.

        • I love it when a lady says she’s disappointed that a character isn’t gay. This auto-magically makes you FAB! LOL. I agree though that it makes the whole Kyle factor yet more complex. Honestly, I have no information and I’m just spinning my gay wheels… Excuse me I’m going to find an avatar of Alex, light a few votive candles and see if I can learn to cast a spell convincing him it’s Wednesday… Bwwwaaaaaahahahahahaha… (don’t hold your breathes… it didn’t work in grade school either. Meh)

  • Saccharissa

    I got a chance to go to the Alternative Press Expo yesterday, and it was amazing! I had a lot of fun (and spent far too much money). I don’t get too many chances to go into the city, so it was a big thing for me. 😀

  • Plum Soda

    Sooo…
    Is it too early to break out the tents, yet?

    • Klaus

      It is never too early to break out the tents.

  • Kalynn Osburn

    OMFG I JUST REALIZED!

    We are going to get to see a cannon young Duncan!

    • Klaus

      IF they make a deal.

  • Kellen Connor

    Ohhhhh, I think I know what’s gonna happen…

  • Klaus

    Duncan is very carefully specifying what he wants. He does not accept L’s “immortality”. But is he careful enough? Or does his wording contain some loophole?

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Yes, I wondered about that too. Is there a difference between immortality and “youth, perfect health without end”? Is Duncan trying to set up a loophole for himself and Sircea? Or is he trying to be as specific as possible so he doesn’t get screwed by say, having immortality but continuing to age for all eternity? But whatever happens, if he makes a deal with Laampros he and Sircea are going to end up getting screwed anyway.

      • Immortality and perfect health.. as a PIG.

        And Kyle is such a good person he’ll end up adopting Pig!Duncan as a pet and looking after him.

        • Gaz Hawkins

          duncan has asked for YOUTH, Laampy could turn them both into babies eternally.
          or we could have a ladyhawk thing going on, Duncan is a baby during the day and Sircea has to look after him and he becomes a man at night whilst she becomes a baby….. both have been granted youth eternal….. it’s the way big red says…GIFT….

          • A youthful pig!

          • Jamie Dutton

            Omg, that is one of my all time favorite movies! But I never thought of this in that way…nice now I’m gonna be thinking about it til the new page goes up.

        • There is a great Manga animation titled NINJA SCROLL (animated feature) that has a series of great demons call THE SEVEN DEMONS OF KIMON (sp?) the leader is a character called Gemma who can’t be killed, perfect health. Cut off his head and it reattaches etc… well he’s unstoppable until the end when (spoiler alert:) is dropped into a huge pool of molten gold that encases him as he sinks into the bottomless depths of a lake. Forever encased in a statue of solid gold in the bottom of a lake forever… it’s pretty great and pretty horrifying to watch.

          If you love first class bloody Manga with magic and monsters you’ll like this.

          I hope Duncan gets all that he wishes for… and his sow (whomever she may be) also for what they did to Kyle to get it.

          Kyle can even say something sanctimonious afterwards and and I’ll forgive him any monologuing. But, immortality and endless health is a tricky tricky wish…

          Can’t wait to see…….. 😉

          • motordog

            I love Ninja Scroll! It was one of the first anime movies I ever watched, and kind of started my love of the genre. My friends were anime fans, but until then I was just sort of ‘meh’.

          • Yep me too. Changed my world view when I realized that American’s knew only a tiny bit about film-making and story-telling and that there was a big world out there. Wish I’d made that film. Well maybe my version of that film … poison girl might have been poison boy…

            Mmmmmmm… (?)

          • ninja scroll is teh awesome!

          • I do love it. It’s both classically true feeling and then just modern cool, no matter when you come to it. Just a creative film.

          • i just love how it’s so classically Japanese in that everyone has their unique attributes ala Sailor Moon style or whatever…but obviously it is…well…actually Ninja Scroll is pretty campy…just super dark campy lol…like who’s ever going to forget when what’s his name was eating out…never mind…let’s not revisit that one lol.

      • motordog

        I believe there is a Greek myth about Eos (goddess of the dawn) who wanted immortality for a young man with whom she was enamored. Her wish was granted, but she didn’t ask for eternal youth…so he got older and older until…he turned into a cricket (which is apparently what happens when your too old to live).

        • Crickets of course… as long as it’s not cock-roaches you’re okay right?

  • After having that eye stare at us for a couple of weeks, I’m really appreciating that our world has a sun and a moon.

    The thought of having an ‘all-seeing’ eye in the skye… *starts humming*

    ~I always feel like somebody’s watching meee – and I have no privacy~

    • Klaus

      Så lurer der et øje i det høje.

      • Haha, jeps. Ville dog foretrække ikke at kunne se det 🙂

        • Sapfo

          Jag ser dig … eller i vart fald Danmark 😉

          • o.o Uha det er skræmmende, men jeg været sød i dag 😉
            Er syg igen, nu med hoste og feber så ved ikke om jeg camper i morgen.

          • Sapfo

            Feber igen, va ska jag göra med dig, Danish?
            Sove godt og vågne op sunde og glade.

            I have things to do early in the morning so if it´s not up by 7 am, I hope you get it.

          • Gaz Hawkins

            I’m guessing “the eye” is how big red knows everything that is going on, it’s HIS EYE!!! (or one of them anyways)

          • Oh Danish, the eye is making you unwell and plaguing you something awful. Look away, Look away, Look away now! Feel better, so you can camp soon….

          • o.o Maybe it IS the eye’s fault. That downtime I had, starting a couple weeks ago around the time the eye showed up, must have weakened my already not great immunesystem.
            Wasn’t gonna camp today but coughing woke me up so now I’m here. Tonight I camp with a fever of 38.6C/101.5F, armed with a pack of tissues always within reach and a lot of camomille tea with honey.

            I’m ready for a new page, so we can decide wether or not we want to slay Big Red and kick Duncan’s ass into a 3rd dimension *prepares meat fork since I don’t have a pitchfork*

          • Holly

            aww poor sick DW *offers vicks and honey*

            I’m not sure a nearly 39 degree fever and hell imagery is a great combo…

          • Your fortitude inspires us all. And it’s true that sometimes symptoms such as coughing (although I’m not happy about that temp. 🙁 ) (okay that just makes a really odd unintentional emoticon), but yet tea and honey and a new page can fill one with resolution as to what to do next. Like you, I just want a direction — to fork… or not to fork? That’s all we need?

            Feel better. May the page restore your resources and lead you to health!

  • Jakk Anthony Guzman

    I’m sure Duncan and Sircea worked the wording of the request very carefully to make sure that there was no way for them to get screwed. But I’m thinking that if Laampros agrees to their request it would be because he has found a way to screw them. Would Laampros agree to a bargain if he could not find a loophole in the request? I’m thinking that he wouldn’t.

    • Let’s face it, Laampy probably has his pick of lawyers hanging around here…

      • OMG… I never thought of that, but you are so right. Now Laamp. probably has to go release them from some horrible torture (I was on call for jury duty so I’m highly tuned to legal evil), but you’re right. Laampy can probably out-legal even Disney’s legal department, and they’re famous for being lethal… wow…

        • Steven K.

          E.G., “The Devil and Daniel Webster” – although he (D.W.) was arguing the case on behalf of the poor fellow that made the deal with Old Scratch.

  • SofiaT

    Back from a trip, have missed all the comments in this page and have no hope of catching up. *sigh*

    Oh well, at least it’s Wednesday!

    • Glad to see you made it back alive. 😛

      As for catching up, there’s been wonder about siblings/coupledom, bacon, the Odyssey, more theories from Team Redilator, sharpening of pitchforks from Team Pitchfork, and of course when will the eye stop staring at us. Oh and if Big Red will turn Duncan and Sircea into piggies (hence bacon and the Odyssey).

      I think that covers it. There may be a few stray topics in there regarding Nutella, Douglas Adams and Doctor Who.

      • SofiaT

        Thanks for the synopsis! The trip was great. First day back to work today, dunno how I’m going to focus.

        • Yeah, that’s going to be a difficult one with it being update day. 🙂 But I will say, may the force be with you.

        • By thinking about the new page of course! 🙂

      • Brilliant… I was right here and even I missed some of that. The Admiral doesn’t miss a trick. I’d like to see Dunk try and fool her… he’d be in for a world of hurt!

        Lovely synopsis. Thank you.
        – CD

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        You forgot about Laampros’ gigantic demon wang and what he intends to do with it. Also, the stupidity of asking for immortality and youth from a demon. Those were pretty popular/important topics of conversation.

        ~ Team Pitchfork Tar & Feathers

    • They do say ‘timing is everything’ and that’s about as good as it gets. Time for a freshen up, time to make camp snacks and get out the necessary camping equipment. SofiaT, I’d say you handled this one just about perfectly… *slow clapping*

      Welcome back…. CD

  • Jamie Dutton

    I think you meant Kyle there 🙂

  • motordog

    Hello, campers!

    Well, I’ve been away for quite some time mainly because my work schedule has shifted a bit…I’m usually either sleeping or working during the height of the camping hours (I can’t even really camp tonight, alas!). Still, I miss you guys! I’ve been ducking in here and there to read up on theories and what not…but with so many comments I’m sure I’m missing out on some good stuff! 🙁

    Anyways…Duncan! I can’t really say the current events have shocked my that much. I mean, scenarios such as what has happened have been batted about for weeks. Still, there’s quite a bit of tension yet, isn’t there! I don’t accept that Kyle is the thing Duncan is offering…yet it doesn’t seem like Kyle’s just a taxi service to Hell, either. I guess we’ll have to wait for more info as the story unfolds. What will Spooky have to say about all this? I hope he’s not too tough on poor Kyle, who has already been through so much.

    So, Alex…you really have quite a challenge ahead of yourself getting Anni and Red back together before you wrap this story up! We’re expecting great things of you! (what? They may not end up together?! blasphemy!)

    • It’s so good to have your calm sensible voice back. You’ve been missed. Erm… how DO you stay so calm? Drug thing? Over counter (he says hopefully), meditation, electro shock, massage, accupuncture… please do share. Whatever it is. I think I need some of that. 🙂

      Welcome back. Hope work is good even if consuming.

      Best,
      ChrisD

      • motordog

        Hey, Chris! Me? Calm? lol…I have some friends who would question that assessment! Most of what helps me relax probably shouldn’t be said on a ‘family friendly’ forum. :p

        Work sucks…but I guess it’s nice to be employed in a job that allows me to pay my bills, live alone (hermit that I am), and still put a few bucks away. So, no serious complaints.

        Nice to be back! Thanks! (wish I could camp, but I’m off to work now!)

        • Fair enough friend… I admire a good front! May work suck less than expected! We shall camp in your honor. 🙂

          • motordog

            😀
            …though I admit, the tone of the last few pages (while entertaining) is a bit bleak, and doesn’t bode well at all for the good ship Redilator…not well at all…

          • I agree with you Motor-D.

            A lot of my daft silliness is just insulation against the bleakness. I almost abandoned this journey as one not for me, but the art is truly special, so I try and keep myself seeing it as good fun and not a game of hearts and hammers.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOsHe8YUqM4

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcHjQuN2GE

            That said, it’s hard to do in serial form. Honestly, if I’d have had to live through ARTIFICE in serial form, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t have had the fortitude to make it. And I love it. Bought two copies.

            So, I’m trying, but I have my bleak limits and I’ll just say I trust Alex to follow his heart and, if I have to rejoin it at the end, then that’s as it should be.

            Best,
            ChrisD

    • Denise Cruz

      Hello!
      I’ve been missing you here, too!
      It’s nice having you back.
      Altough, I wasn’t so present, too. (‘Cause I was sick since last Friday morning…)
      Anyway, I’m glad seeing you here, even if you can’t camping with us, yet.
      At least, leave some ‘HI!’ in the comments, when you can. So we’ll know you didn’t forget about us and you are fine, ok? 😉

      • motordog

        Obrigado Denise! Hope you’re feeling better!

        • Denise Cruz

          Thanks! I am, now! But my days are being too much overwhelmed… I haven’t been able to come here as I wish… i.i

    • Holly

      We missed you! ^_^ Happy to see you are still on the Ship. As you can see, I am pulling it now with my tugboat ^_^

      • motordog

        Good work! Though, considering the latest deal Anni has offered Lamps…sigh…I guess the tip of my pinkie finger is still on the ship, but it’s hard to imagine a scenario where Redilator will actually work out. 🙁

    • Welcome back! I keep forgetting to tell you: I love your name and avatar.

      • motordog

        ^_^

  • Holly

    *Goes to camp.* I BROUGHT S’MORES! Also a horrible surprise for later. Mwahah

    • Chibi

      I WANT A SMORE!!!

      • Holly

        *gives Chibi an extra goofy smore* yay camping ^_^

  • Tina

    Can’t really camp tonight due to stupid work schedule (seriously they had me come in 3pm-11pm and then expect me back in at 7am) so I look forward to the new page in the morning!

    • Holly

      aww that’s sad. Still I wish I had everyone’s problem of having a job.

      We will leave many fun comments for you to read. ^+^

      • Tina

        Lol try not to go too overboard. Its really hard sifting through 300+ comments early in the morning

  • Xalun K

    Well all rightie. I have the opportunity to camp tonight (watching Supernatural to kill time, weuuuu). I’ve got the hot dogs, Kyle’s got the fire. *snik*

    • Holly

      AND I HAVE SMORES!

      • I just found a gluten free smores receipe, not that I need gluten free, but it made me wonder what they taste like…

        • Holly

          Yeah I have a no bake Vegan cookie recipe that is awesome. Just to have it.

          I am the QUEEN of energy balls. ^-^

          • Yay-Hey!

          • Holly

            Hey?!

          • Sorry, it’s an expression I’ve been using at work lately, explains why my co-workers look at me weird. Though I think I spelled it wrong. SB Yay-Hay! I think.

          • davefragments

            what’s not Vegan in a cookie?

          • Holly

            Eggs and butter?

          • davefragments

            I never thought about eggs as not-vegan. I myself am a carnivore and unabashedly and unashamedly so.

          • Holly

            Vegans don’t eat or use animals or animal products. No meat, not eggs, no milk. Some don’t even eat honey.

          • I have a friend who’s vegan and she doesn’t eat honey.

          • davefragments

            Ooops, I forgot. Vegans are OK with me, BTW. I have a few friends who tell me they are. Plus I grew up with kids who kept Kosher. Your dietary stuff is your stuff.

            Now deer on the other hand…
            Deer only create body damage on one part of a car. I had a coworker who was stupid and too much in a hurry to get to the bar. he drove through a flock of wild turkey and they attacked his car. Paint scratches all over from front to back from their scratching and pecking.

          • Honey is bee vomit or something like that.

          • Holly

            No. It’s just stirred with their tongues. ANd try not to think to hard about WHAT food is.

          • Oh I don’t think about it. I do my best not to think about it because I know I couldn’t be a vegan/vegetarian. I can’t even do gluten free 😐

  • Page is baking in the oven. Should be up in the next hour. 🙂

    • Holly

      I CAN SMELL THE FRESH BAKING PAGE!

      • Ali

        So THAT’S what the smell is…

      • Mmm, ’tis the best smell ever imagined. 🙂

        • Holly

          I am going to get the cherry! *game face*

          • Oh it’s on!

          • Holly

            It is on like King Kong!

          • Holly

            Um… do I get pity cherry if I tell you my brother just called to tell me he crashed my car in to a deer?

            Totally serious… >_<

          • Well, damn. I can’t take the cherry now. I’ll take the peach

            I hope no one was hurt.

          • O_O Oh god. You get the cherry.
            I hope everything is ok after the circumstances.

          • Holly

            I don’t know about the deer, but my brother is fine and he was the only one in the vehicle. IT was minor body damage. Luckily he saw the two deer that were crossing before hand, so he had slowed.

          • Sapfo

            The brother is more important then the car.

          • Holly

            Well yes. I am getting very mad at the amount of deer he hits when driving alone. I swear if he gets himself hurt.

            I don’t even want to think about it.

          • Sapfo

            Damn brothers, It should not be allowed for them to scare us like that.

          • Oh like you’ve never had a sister hit a deer… pshaaawwww…

          • Well, I crashed my brother’s car into a Bronco. So… 😐

          • Holly

            IF THE CAR WAS ALSO A BRONCO YOU WIN AT HILARITY FAILS!

          • No, I’m afraid it was some little honda. But the Bronco was white.

          • Holly

            Haha White Bronco. AJ sounds like OJ. Oh such fun ^_^

            Well I mean, reteroative fun

          • Looking back…. 😐 I was lucky he was a nice guy, never went to the insurance company.

          • Don’t fib… you used feminine wiles didn’t you?

          • No. It was pure luck that I hit him. He apparently drove such a car for just such an occasion. He received no damage.

          • The luck of the (insert lucky thing here) for sure!!!!!

          • Oh indeed. We didn’t have insurance at the time.

          • Bucking ? Bronco?

          • That would’ve been interesting.

          • Holly

            I only have the one big brother Chris. It’s just he and I. Like my mom likes to say “We only have each other.”

          • Mom’s … so right sometimes that it’s just annoying well you tell HER!!! Oh never mind… we’ll get the car fixed. 🙂

          • Holly

            Brother believes that if something RANDOM and bad happens, it means the universe is trying to balance out a gift you are about to get. Now to see if it’s his gift or mine.

            *crosses fingers that this means I get the job at the adult store*

          • You have a store that sells adults… I need a couple. Do they ship? Sell online? Let me know.

          • Holly

            Chris, I love you. So much. It’s an adult bookstore/toystore. If I get the job I get to not only work there but do workshops on sex toys etc. GREAT JOB.

            are we back on the sexbot harems again?!

          • Yay for sexbot harems!

          • Holly

            As an android I am not compatible 🙁

          • What? Androids deserve love too!

          • Holly

            The lovebots run on iOS. XP

          • Surely there is a PC version.

          • Holly

            Ew. Windows. Naw I just need to figure out how to interface. (you got the android vs iOS joke right?)

          • No, I didn’t, but I do now. XD (My attention is diverted)

          • No love… just mech muffins…

          • Holly

            ….YOu are lucky andriod can’t get fat *fills void in her emotions matrix with delicious mech muffins and leaking fluid that comes from optic sensors at moments like this*

          • Did we ever leave the sexbot harem? Golly, not me.

          • Holly

            Golly Holly, he says.

          • Sapfo

            Well I only have two brothers, so if the sister hit the deer, then it would be me doing it 😉

          • Fair… erm… have you hit a deer?

          • Sapfo

            I ran into a goose once… Or maybe it ran into me?

          • Geese are cranky… yep…

          • Sapfo

            I just felt so bad for it. Poor Henry the Goose, he is no more ;_;

          • Holly

            You KNEW that goose? or is that just a name you gave it?

          • Sapfo

            I named it Henry, you have to name something thats stuck in the front of your car… it was probably a female goose. But I usually give the wrong gender names to pets.

          • Adam Black

            YOU , killed Henry?
            He never even got his operation

          • Sapfo

            You knew Henry?

            Oh it most have been another Henry. This Henry only hade tree days left until retirement. I dont know of any operation thou.

          • Adam Black

            Im sure you gander the sad truth.

          • Wow… you seemed so innocent and sweet. I’d never have pegged you as a crazed goose killer… especially a KNOWN goose… but they do say that it’s usually someone you know. *looks around suspiciously*

          • Sapfo

            Oh no, I named him/her after running over it. Just thought it got to have a name.

          • Exactly. That’s what’s important.

          • Very sorry to hear about your car, but I’m glad to hear your brother wasn’t hurt.

          • Holly

            Thanks Alex. ^_^

          • davefragments

            Done that once in my life. The car can be fixed (mine was) and you can tease your brother for a long, long time.

          • Holly

            Tease him that he’s hit THREE deer? And many other animals. And had several vehicles. Yet some how mom still feels safer driving with him despite my perfect driving record?

          • Well you certainly get a non sequitur bonus badge for oddest camping trauma to date….

          • Holly

            I LOVE MY CAR! It’s a metalic blue Aveo. It was my baby.

            …and mom said it was safer to leave it home with him and dad. Might get into an accident if it was here in the city with me. Well the city did not get the accident.

          • davefragments

            I have small herds of deer wander around my house and eat the ornamental fruit in my yard. They are pretty and I’ve seen newborns just like Bambi — wobbly with adorable spotting.

            Then they eat every plant I own down to the nubs. ANd eat, and eat, and eat… the garden, the flowers, the pine cones, the hedges, but not the weeds.

          • o_o Are you now? *Sharpens meat fork some more*

          • Holly

            Feverish people should not threaten their friends with sharp kitchen tools. Though I am less motivated now as i need to find out about my poor car. 🙁

          • You are like readiness personified. Sharpening objects in spite of feeling poorly. I’m impressed.

    • Ellen Harman

      Tease.

  • Duncan is sounding so Jason Isaacs-y to me right now.

  • Guest

    Well, it will be my birthday in another 5 minutes or so – the big 49. I just hope that I (we) get a decent page posted here tonight – i.e., one that isn’t filled with a lot of horror and dread and fear for poor Kyle again. Please give my sweet russet-armpit-fur-tufted adorable red-haired hottie-boy a break real soon!!!

    • Jakk Anthony Guzman

      Happy Birthday! 🙂

    • Ellen Harman

      Happy Birthday!

    • Holly

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVEN! ^_^

    • Happy Happy!

    • Dude, I’m totally in agreement, but the time to lay on the big birthday guilt was before the page went in the oven… just sayin’ 🙂

      OH and happy bday!

    • Steven K.

      Sorry for making my announcement twice – I posted and forgot I was not logged on – thought I had deleted this first post before I made my other one – I guess not 🙁

    • happy birthday 🙂

  • Steven K.

    Well, it will be my birthday in another few minutes or so – the big 49. I just hope that I (we) get a decent page posted here tonight – i.e., one that isn’t filled with a lot of horror and dread and fear for poor Kyle again. Please give my sweet russet-armpit-fur-tufted adorable red-haired hottie-boy a break real soon!!!

    • Happy Birthday, Steven. I hope it’s a very fun day for you. 🙂

      • *Alex goes and whites out the second demon coming to get Kyle in honor of Steven’s birthday…. then strolls away looking innocent…..* Ho Hum…..

    • Now we can say HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

      (Mine is in 14 days so have the same hope for ‘my’ bonuspage – because I’m expecting it to happen)

    • Holly
    • Happy Birthday, Steven!

    • sonoftheatomicbiscuithead

      Happy Birthday.

  • The page is baking…and I’m supposed to be writing now. Timer is set for 80 mins but how can I write when camping is happening? Gah!

  • Steven K.

    Aww – thanks everyone! I don’t think I’ve had that many people say HB to me in a couple decades! <3

    • davefragments

      well let’s go for the Guinness Book of records: Happy BIrthday!

    • Even better than birthday shouts out on Facebook!

    • Holly

      One away from a BIG ONE! You must be here next year for us to shout joy at you!

      • Steven K.

        Well, even though I’ve had a lot of adversity lately, you all here help keep me going. THANKS!

    • well,i’ll add another: Happy birthday!

      It’s quite crowded these days – a colleague of mine yesterday, one on Saturday, and myself in the middle….no luck on drawing a Wednesday …

      • An almost happy birthday to you.

        • Sapfo

          And soon to you to XD

          • Thank you. If we get the expected bonus page, I’ll start the day with that one and end it with a Teahouse page 😀

          • Holly

            aww my birthday was august.

          • Sapfo

            Happy late birthday!

          • You feel better already don’t you ? See it’s the page cure.

          • As long as I don’t cough.. and I think I’m getting high on honey. Can you get high on honey?.. I think I’ve had enough of it to make it happen.

          • Enjoy D-wolf anything that helps, but ODing on honey is not good. It’s a sweet sweet death… so be careful.

          • Sapfo

            Maybe I give you a birthday gift. How do you feel about virgins? 😉

          • Steven K.

            Can I trade my puppies and day-geckos in for a virgin? (He has to be legal though.)

          • Sapfo

            But I´m allergic to puppies and you can keep the day-geckos. I tried getting a virgin from IKEA, but they where all sold out. Sorry.

          • StevenK – an 18 year old virgin??? In THIS day and age. Hell, Alex had to give him nuclear exploding fire-spunk in order to keep him virginal. I think we’re going to have to grow you a pod-virgin to have a realistic shot at this. But, dude, it’s your birthday, you deserve it, so we’ll try! Oh, and Alex told me all your Akita puppies are hidden behind Duncan’s hand holding the key, which is also hiding Kyle’s fire sheathed sword.

            (Hey, I’m digging Sonny’s Seraph idea. What can I say?)

            ChrisD

      • Steven K.

        Thanks – you too then! Another Libra?

        • yes, one of four in the family: My Sister, my father, my second nephew and me – seems there is a family tradition of how to get through those cold winter nights 😉

        • yes, one of four in the family: My Sister, my father, my second nephew and me – seems there is a family tradition of how to get through those cold winter nights 😉

    • Feverfew_M

      Looks like I got up in time for the party — a very happy birthday to you! 🙂

    • happy birthday 🙂

    • SofiaT

      Happy Birthday Steven! :0)

  • Sapfo
  • where?

  • La Belle Gigi

    I wonder who Laampros means by “sow”. Platinum aka Sircea?

  • ScorpioladyCZ

    I thought he’d want something more interesting than this…

  • To Steel Man’s last comment:

    Well… true… But telling story is a complexe and brave process.
    Because no matter how we work on it, there always will be people to not
    like the story line (don’t worry I am not talking about you here but in
    general…)

    As for me, I tend to be indulgente to anyone who
    decide to submite a story to the public. Bad or good, some comments can
    be destructive. Sometimes for fair reasons; sometimes for unfair ones.
    And very often by people who themselve will never take the risk to face a
    direct judging, despite how bright and neat are their vision of a good
    fiction.

    Bad or good, genial or sterotype, I don’t really care.
    If it makes people feel something, even just for one scene, it is
    worthy. And also there are so much fictions in this world; Stories with
    real meanings and some with only the purpose of entertaining us. We have
    the choice. And we have to admit, even part of an intelectual elite,
    it’s good and relaxing to read some stereotypes from time to time. I
    have heard so much persons (especially my own teachers over the last
    past 10 years) telling me that stereotypes are the “ennemy” of
    storytelling. I would rather say, it serves both sides and we need all
    of it… It’s not a war, it’s a cohabition of multi-universes.

    Also,
    I like your comment and your respect over the work made here and I
    myself respect your comment in every words. I think many people are
    sharing your point of view. But honestly, my friendly man of steel, if
    you’re going to read or watch a story about super heros, you better not
    expect to see an original art master piece… Because the concept of
    super hero is itself a huge cliche. 😉

    But doesn’t mean that it is bad.

  • I am glad you enjoyed it. It was a very interesting conversation for me too. And I am glad to meet another writter here 🙂

  • we can only imagine…lol…

  • SchalaRenee

    PLEASE remove the shadow on Laampros obviously huge dick! I must see it!

    • Klaus

      Time for some fan art