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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 36

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From his words, you might get the impression that this huge, scary demon from Hell is not sex-positive. But that’s actually not the case at all. He’s just not flesh-positive…

On Wednesday, I announced the opening of my Store. I’ll be offering more goodies later, but for now you can get your hands on things like a copy of Artifice signed by both Winona and me or the TYP Flame Keychain or even a sexy canon Artifice print (NSFW). If any of that sounds cool to you, please take a look. 🙂

We have new Fan Art by WarGoddess. It’s an adorable colored sketch of “Baby Duncan and Kyle”! Too cute. You must check it out.

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So! Looks like Laampros isn’t very interested in The Annihilator, but he has definitely taken an interest in our young hero. And seems he’s got some opinions about the human race. Will we continue to benefit from his wisdom? Or will something else command this demon’s attention?

Tune in this Wednesday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

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  • Sapfo

    One great eye, one Laampros, one Duncan and one Kyle was in a bar … I dont know the rest of That Story

    • Damnit! I was replying to you on last page.

      • Sapfo

        I just updated after writing you, I thought I was to late, but No ^_^

        • *lol* I need to stop reacting to your ‘tricks’. This is the second time this week I do this. You’re learning too well 😉

          • Sapfo

            I´m not a TricksterXD

            And you know I taking just the same risk as you.

            To comment or not to comment while camping. That is the question.
            There are great risks and great rewards in doing so.

          • Yup, congratz 🙂 I’ll be back ..some day.

      • Holly

        aww Danish didn’t get the cherry. 🙁

        • Sapfo

          Hey, no sad face. I got it instead XD

          • Holly

            Conflicting feelings! XD

          • Sapfo

            That´s better, feel the conflict. Be the conflict. ¤_¤

          • Holly

            Why do I suddenly imagine you and DW with ropes tugging me in opposite directions for the lolz?

          • o_o You imagined that too? 😉

          • Sapfo

            Psst! Danish, we need more ropes for next camping.

          • Holly

            TO put up the tents right… right guys? Why are you smiling like that? Anyone?

          • Holly

            Yeah, so many conflicting emotions…

    • Adam Black
  • I wouldn’t wanna meet him in a dark alley .. or anywhere for that matter o_o

  • SofiaT

    Keep Calm and Wait for Wed/day. Kyle will be fine.

    • Klaus

      At this speed he may get out of this sometime around new year.

      • Holly

        OCTOBER 30: HALLOWEEN DEUS EX MACHINA!!!

        • Klaus

          Deus ex Cucurbita

  • davefragments

    This is going to be one hellacious (helluva, too) mind f*** for Kyle.
    THat is so terribly mean… And Laaaaampros tells him he’s cute..
    I love it, I love it, I love it..

  • silibub

    *clutches face* Argh! Paws off, Lamp-man, nobody asked you!

    • Holly

      *backs away from silibub* Maybe don’t yell at the giant demon?

  • WarGoddess

    I am soooooooo glad I am not Kyle right now. I would be freaking out sooo badly! (o~O)

    • Look at him. He IS freaking out badly. He’s just not able to speak D:

      • Holly

        Kyle’s brain is just a chorus of “OhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHIT….This isn’t good…OhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHITOhSHIT”

    • Denise Cruz

      The poor kid can’t even scream!! Oh!! >~<
      Bad Duncan! Bad!!

      • He can’t really move at all. All voluntary muscles.

        • Holly

          I wonder if Laampros can get an involuntary response out of him. *wolfish grin*

        • Klaus

          Except the face, it seems.

          • Holly

            Involuntary Look of Horror?

          • Sort of. His expression hasn’t changed much.

        • Adam Black

          He can crap the bed

  • YangYueLan

    Meep! *hides behind tea cup*

    • Sapfo

      Tea cup not big enough, hid behind you o.o

  • mogoskier

    Okay I love Kyle “no touching please” face.

  • Holly

    LAAMPROS I LOVE YOU!

  • Tina

    IF HE LAYS ONE HAND ON KYLE I’M USING ONE OF YOU AS MY VIRGINAL SACRIFICE AND KICKING HIS ASS!!

    • Holly

      …aww this is so not how I pictured it.

      • Tina

        I promise to make it as painless as possible *kicks a few knives under the table* now lie down and try not to scream too loud. It’ll only give me a headache

        • Holly

          Having a Xena flashback:
          Gabrielle: Oh were you trained to be a priestess?
          Jenai: No a virgin sacrifice.

    • Adam Black

      little late for me

    • Derkins

      heh, at least I’m not a candidate. ^.^

  • SofiaT

    Hey! Who did you call small? >:(

  • Sapfo

    Is Laampros bad, but I thought Mr Laamp was good o.o

    • Holly

      Alex is all about dashing and rebuilding our assumptions. Then again, maybe we were hasty to assume the giant red demon lord was good…

      • Sapfo

        Oh no, the big red scary dud how looks scary and evil, is actually scary and evil. What mind trick is this o.o

        • Holly

          *shoulder hunch in laughter* No words. Your sass has defeated me.

  • ཟློད་

    Missing word balloon in panel 3:
    KYLE (squealing): Ooooh, Bluto…!

    • Holly

      remember Kyle can’t speak. *evil chortle*

  • Rin

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. DUNCAN, YOU GONNA TAKE THAT SHIT?

  • Tina

    I’m slightly confused as to who Laampros is talking to in the last panels. Is he talking Duncan about Kyle or talking to Kyle about Duncan? o,O?

    • Holly

      I think just about humans and genitals in general, really. I mean, who hasn’t made horrible decisions based on throbbing loins? (purposefully using purple prose to prove point.)

      • Tina

        Teehee. Not me yet!

  • WarGoddess

    Kyle: Oh God he’s touching me ohGodohGodohGodohGod…well…at least he has a nice manicure…..XD

  • ཟློད་

    In Panel 1 Laapros’s face looks like the 1970’s-era Hulk’s. In Panel 2 he looks like the Grinch!

  • silibub

    Huh, so in the second-to-last panel is Lampjaw talking about Duncan using Kyle’s powers (probable), or about Kyle tapping into some other entity’s power (less probable, but interesting)? Either way, I like the implication that succumbing to one of the deadly sins allows you access to this hell dimension. But I’m a little (very) concerned about the fact that Duncan apparently pierced some kind of protective barrier around the human world to get here — if he and Kyle came through, can demons also pass through and come to Earth?

    • Holly

      I feel like Sloth would be a VERY difficult sin to use in this manner. And now I am very scared at the implication of a gaping hell mouth thanks to Duncan.

      • silibub

        Yeah, I think if being a lazy piece of garbage warped you to maybe-hell, I’d be there already!

        • Holly

          I feel like it’s pretty much Lust and Wrath. Like those are the only two that are powerful enough.

          • silibub

            Probably so, they’re definitely the most violent ones. Envy might work, if you let it consume you the way Wrath and Lust can…

          • Holly

            I don’t think Envy or Pride could be lasered enough.

            Though actually, if Pride can be attributed to sheer force of Will, then Pride might work too. If you TRULY believe the walls mean nothing to you.

          • silibub

            Could you say the same thing about Avarice, then, if you desired what was on the other side of the barrier enough?

          • Holly

            True. But you would have to know. But yeah, Okay so we covered six. Let’s finish this up? Gluttony…

          • silibub

            Eat your way through the barrier!

            But really, the seven deadly get tricky for me in that they seem to overlap in a lot of ways. Is Gluttony all that far removed from Lust or Avarice, for instance, since all three seem to involve a powerful and insatiable desire for something? Sex, wealth, or consumption, the real sin seems to be in the overwhelming excess. Extreme overindulgence in food coupled with the right spell might open the gate, then — who knows?

          • Klaus

            Overeating was one of the way the ancient Celts used to enter a trance.

          • Holly

            The first four of the seven deadly sins are sins of extreme love. Love of Sex, Love of Food, Love of Oneself, and Love of Things. Food, sex, self-confidence, and possessions are not innately wicked, it is the over indulgence in these things that is bad.

            At least according to the Divine Comedy.

            Interestingly enough, Sloth is the only one not to appear in Inferno. Though I think it’s in Purgatory.

            I feel like people would die of overconsumption before they broke the barriers. Gluttony is probably the riskiest sin in this regard. Good idea though.

          • Klaus

            I don’t think that is how it works. Kyle did not lust for Laampros. You need to get your victim to be exceedingly greedy for something, anything, and then magically channel that greed.

          • silibub

            Right, you expressed it better than I did, but that’s what I was going for! I meant “desire” as in greed, not sexual desire.

        • Adam Black

          lol

      • strangeangel24601

        I was gonna try to use Sloth to open a portal to Hell, but it seemed like too much work.

        • Holly

          lol

    • Ellen Harman

      No it should not have opened the door, it may have weakened it though. Remember the first thing the spell did was to create a binding circle. Duncan has not crossed it so it is still closed. What I am unsure of is how Lamp entered the circle. From what I understand the deamon should not have been able to cross a closed circle.

      • silibub

        That confuses me too — unless it’s not a binding circle, but just a gateway?

        • It’s also possible because they entered his world, not the other way around.

          • silibub

            Good point! So Duncan wouldn’t be able to step outside the circle in this world, then.

          • That would make sense.

      • Holly

        I think it’s like AJ said, they are in a protective circle that connects them to the world they are in. However since they are within the world Laampros can walk into the circle. He just can’t follow when they leave.

  • CH

    Poor Kyle and his ineffectual “no touchie” face.

  • SofiaT

    “A creature such as yourself”?? He means a villain? Or something else?

    We’ve been so busy trying to figure out what Kyle is, we forgot to ask is Duncan human??

    • davefragments

      remember Sircea talking about Kyle’s powers – not alien, not mutant etc…

    • I was taking it more as he was insulting Duncan by calling him a creature.

    • Holly

      I think it’s an insult to Duncan for being a subhuman kind of personality guy. Using others and only caring for himself etc etc.

      • SofiaT

        For a demon, all these qualities should count as compliments though.

        • Holly

          Depends on the kind of demon. We still don’t know what realm of hell this is.

      • Klaus

        A puny human. That is how understood it.

    • For Laampros, being a demon is probably the default norm, so a human would count as “a creature” for him.

    • Adam Black

      maybe

  • Ummm…. I need to think about this one. But at first, second and third glance, he doesn’t seem impressed with the Duncanator and even less that he used lust to get what he wanted? He calls Duncan a creature, but uses a pronoun when Lampy indicated Kyle. Yeah, I need to think about his one.

    • Holly

      *gives AJ thinking muffins*

      • Thank you! I have a few thoughts but they need to percolate.

        • strangeangel24601

          “Percolate.” Now there’s a word you don’t hear often enough.

          • Holly

            yeah because no one makes their own brain coffee anymore.

            …. I feel like two ideas got merged in that sentence. but I like the line so we will keep it there.

          • strangeangel24601

            I’m a little drunk right now so I don’t really have a good reply for that.

          • I’m sober and I’m at a loss. o.O

          • No I don’t suppose it is. 🙂

    • silibub

      You and SofiaT might be on to something…

  • Mike W

    Lust? I thought it was rose petals.

    • Tina

      I’m also curious who’s lust it was. Lol, that’d be a fun twist if it was Duncan’s.

      • Mike W

        I just hope Duncan has a stash of magic pot pourri on hand in case Laampros doesn’t understand no means no,

      • Adam Black

        good point

  • ཟློད་

    Kyle’s thought balloon: “Oh my God, the Christians were right all along! Please Jesus, come into my heart as my lord and savior. I promise not to be gay any more–I’ve learned my lesson now!”

    • Tina

      I’m a Christian… and I found that hilarious XD

      “OMG THE CRAZY WESTBORO BAPTIST PEOPLE WERE RIGHT!”

      • ཟློད་

        Landover Baptist Church names, as one of the torments of hell, “getting raped by demons with ten-foot tallywackers.”

        • Tina

          That is… oddly specific… Kyle won’t be able to walk this one off in the morning

        • Adam Black

          arent they “the only true Christians?”

        • I just noticed that there was a post on the Landover Baptist Church’s forum posted at 6:27 AM this morning with the following text:

          May I point out a helpful new resource for educating our nation’s young people to the dangers of homosexuality? Alex Woolfson–who I assume must be a fine, upstanding Christian man–has created a free educational online comic that recounts the sad tale of Kyle, a young superhero who is recruited to the “gay” (read: degenerate) lifestyle by an older predator. I can assure you that the comic is quite accurate in its hard-hitting depiction of the little-known ties between homosexuality and devil worship; as well as the horrifying consequences of touching another man–namely, that they both go straight to hell. See for yourselves:

          It then links to this page and encourages the members of this Church to respond in this comments section by providing this information: “New pages generally appear every Wednesday and Saturday. And don’t miss the comment section below each page, because that is a great place to reach the legions of the lost with the terrifying message of God’s judgment, which–as we are well aware–involves rape by demons with ten-foot tallywackers (much as depicted in the page linked above).”

          I imagine this posting was done with the goal of creating humor, but this is trouble we don’t need. People from that site are already clicking through. I’d rather spend my time making fun comics for you all than moderating hate speech. If someone here left that forum post, which considering the language seems likely, I am asking that you please delete it and, if you can’t outright delete it, that you edit the text so that it is essentially deleted.

          Thank you.

    • Holly

      I’m Christian and my church is all about the “love thy neighbour” thing. Gay is cool. I am pretty sure we’ve had gay ministers since the 80s

      • ཟློད་

        Don’t worry, I’m aware that not all Christians agree with Fred Phelps / Jack Chick.

      • strangeangel24601

        It’s so awesome to meet other loving, accepting Christians, whether in the internet or IRL. 🙂 I tried for years to find a church that didn’t make me feel like a freak for not believing their homophobic nonsense. Finally found a tiny (we’re talking a congregation of less than 50 on Christmas Eve) Methodist church about 15 minutes from my house back in 2007 and my family and I have been very active in the work they do ever since. I personally feel that one of our proudest moments was when the entire congregation voted unanimously to become a Reconciling Ministry (more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciling_Ministries_Network) Long story short, there are plenty of us who realize that the Bible actually says a lot more about loving one another and treating everyone how we would like to be treated than homosexuality.

        • Tina

          While the current church I go to still believes homosexuality is wrong, we’re also taught that treating someone badly because of their different beliefs is just as wrong. No where in the bible did God say it was okay to hate other people. We should love other people no matter what. :}

          • vessto

            Bible says gays to be killed. And this is fact. The issue is that nowadays priests skip the most hateful (yes, hateful) lines in bible. Even the 10 commands are cut at some level for reasons of misogyny.

            As and atheist I felt obliged to know what I fight with. Fighting without knowing your enemy is stupid. I found this site where all commands of “god” about various kind of people (even children) to be killed are listed with their exact number in exact part of the bible. So whoever thinks “That’s couldn’t be true” or “Just a propaganda” may just see the number of the quote and to look in the bible. Sorry if I break someone’s daydreams but the facts are facts.

            http://www.evilbible.com/

          • Adam Black

            Thats in context of an taboo code to a particular culture.

            It says this, literally right after it pronounces the death penalty for eating shellfish.

            It also says all heterosexuals should be killed if you have sex outside of marriage, unless you are a man that rapes an unmarried woman—then your punishment is marriage.

            Also there are modern Jewish Scholars that think this is actually a prohibition to literally taking a man inside your wifes own tent.

            It also pronounces the death penalty for all heterosexuals who have sex ( including married ) within 10 days of last menses.

            In other words all the Christians who invoke this code, would be already be dead under it, if it was applied.

            Furthermore the crime of “sodomy” in the Bible isnt gay sex—- Its vicious rape, specifically rape the strangers.

            The reason the Bible doesnt just call out rape, itself , was that it was from a patriarchal bronze age culture that treated rape of females first as a property crime.

            more on this: http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/leviticus.html

            The real question is whether Israelites actually applied this code as written.

            I take you a little further down the Bible when Prince Jonathan , son of Saul, STRIPS OFF HIS CLOTHES, PUTS THEM ON DAVID, EMBRACES DAVID, WHILE NAKED ( ? ) , in front of his father and declares his undying devotion. The same David that becomes KIng, is the supposed ancestor of jesus, and is the basis of the “Divine Right of Kings”.

            and what does the Bible say of the relationship between David and Jonathan? …
            “When David had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul… Then Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul. ”

            Greatly beloved were you to me;
            your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.”
            (2 Samuel 1:23, 26-27, emphasis added)

            “Here it is in black and white. David states the love he shared with Jonathan was greater than what he had experienced with women.”

            “In this story, we have a direct biblical answer to our question: Can two people of the same sex live in a loving, committed relationship with God’s favor? The answer is “yes,” because Jonathan and David did, and the Bible celebrates their relationship.

          • vessto

            “In other words all the Christians who invoke this code, would be already be dead under it, if it was applied.”

            Exactly. But the “ruling majority” (male heterosexuals) don’t apply the lines who don’t concern them and apply the lines that affect gays and women (the “damned” minorities). What a “surprising” hypocrisy.

          • vessto

            But what bugs me most is why should people at first place take something written as an axiom. That is the real problem. People should think and get conclusions what is the truth, not something to be “applied” to them. That way many things may be applied as ultimate. If not religion then something else.

            If you suggest people not to breath and to take air trough else’s lungs they’ll refuse for sure. But they willingly agree not to think and to take else’s thoughts. Children should be taught how to think, not what to think. Knowing how to make it everyone will find their way to do it. As they are taught how to walk and later walk by themselves. Because 99% of the world’s ugliness is a result of people are given answers before the questions and explanations why this answer should be right. We are taught what supposedly is “always right” (creature “god”) and we should follow all it says. Later anything can be put as its “words” (even the most opposite things at once) yet as long as it is “always right” we should obey these “words” (even if opposite at once). What else can cause such inhuman and horrible acts like “honor killings” or sending your children in the streets for being “abomination” or blinding with acid teen girls because they go to school (females shouldn’t have knowledge; that is a case from Afghanistan).

            One of my motto is
            “People are supposed to breath and to think.
            If they refuse to breath they die.
            If they refuse to think other people die.”

            The second option happens ways too often nowadays because all I described above.

      • Adam Black

        good for you

        • Holly

          Thanks! I feel I really lucked out. ^_^

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I knew I read this in a Chick track!

      • Adam Black

        you are not supposed to actually read them

    • Adam Black

      Chapter 3: Kyle meets Kirk Cameron

  • TwilightDreamer

    *screams* GET YOUR HANDS OFF OF KYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That’s it Duncan!! Absolutely NO forgiveness for you!! >:( …if you really let this get any worse for Kyle (not that it really can), I’ll never believe you actually even slightly cared for him!!!!
    *grrrrrrrr*
    ….ok ok….rofl, sorry XD another great page, and even out a little earlier this time…I like it!! ^_^

    • Tina

      WE CAN TEAM UP AGAINST THE TWO! WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BEAT LAMPY AND KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO DUNCAN!

      • Holly

        Okay seriously, Leave Lampy alone. He obviously has much condemnation for Duncan. Plus, again, fighting demon lords is never smart. I say just respectfully skirt around him, kick Duncans ass, and hope that pleases him enough to let you leave.

        • Tina

          *giggles* so basically take the Canadian approach to problem solving

          • Holly

            The Canadian approach tends to be best. *nods* Moose Lotteries, Maple Syrup, Politeness, etc.

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Whack Laampros upside the head with Duncan and then run like your butts on fire and your hair is about to catch!

      • TwilightDreamer

        It’s a deal!! >:D
        Can I hit Duncan first? I know I’ll probably just break my hand, but oh well ^_^’
        Ooooh…Karma is sooo gonna come biting him!

        • Tina

          Fine. I call getting to kick him in the balls though

          • TwilightDreamer

            Works for me! 😀

    • Denise Cruz

      You CAN’T scream against such a creature!
      Did you see his size?! XDD
      Breath!

      • TwilightDreamer

        rofl! Too late! >:D
        oh I saw his size alright….more than a little intimidating…but…Kyle….:’S

        • Denise Cruz

          I know… i.i Maybe that kid would like having someone else tied up with him… (Sorry! You just screamed against a HUGE freaking demon…)

          • TwilightDreamer

            😛

    • Klaus

      Oh yes. It can get so much worse, Personally I don’t think it will, though.

      • TwilightDreamer

        lol, yeah I know it definitely could get worse, it’s was more…if it does go where it looks like it’s going, then it couldn’t get much worse….but I’m really hoping it doesn’t go there…

  • Ellen Harman

    I was hoping I was wrong. Looks like Kyle is the virgin sacrifice.

    Does anyone think he would survive sex with a 50 foot demon? Guess we also now know why it had to be Kyle. Who else would have even a small chance of living through this, but someone with Kyle’s power.

    • I don’t think he’s interested in sex with Kyle. I’m taking it to mean he was just reminiscing about such things.

      • Denise Cruz

        I think he’s just teasing Duncan!

        He knows that man won’t endure seeing the kid being hurt like that! (At least, I think he won’t…)

        Is it only me, or Duncan’s strength has something to do with that weird demon?! He said: ‘So it was LUST that allowed a creature such as yourself’ – Duncan- ‘to use his power.’ – Kyle’s power.

        Then he said: ‘It is telling that such a bit of flesh can make you all so WEAK.’

        Doesn’t seem like he’s teasing Duncan about his strength? Once he’s a little bit of softer because of Kyle and their ‘relationship’ trough that week? And he was scared of being weak.. He said so…

        • Holly

          I think the weakness is referring to Kyle letting down his shields (LITERALLY IN A METAPHYSICAL SENSE) and letting Duncan in. Etc etc

          • Denise Cruz

            Maybe… But he said you all… plus, Duncan owns a ‘bit’ (OMG) of flesh too… Doesn’t he?!
            Maybe it means something else…

        • I think the weakness stab was regarding how sex makes them weak.

    • I very much doubt sex is in the picture here.

      • ཟློད་

        How about long walks on the beach, candle-light dinners…?

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          Pina coladas and getting caught in the rain…? Well, probably not getting caught in the rain.

    • ཟློད་

      Have we learned nothing? There are many different ways to have sex. Maybe Laampros will just want to hold hands and gaze into Kyle’s eyes, maybe cop a quick feel.

      • Holly

        …Why did you put romantic demon sex into my brain? Why? It’s there now. BURNED into my imagination. *sighs*

        • ཟློད་

          Do I make you HORNY…?
          (making sign of devil)

          • Holly

            Stop it, I’m turning RED!

      • Stubbylegs

        I was thinking a slow dance and maybe a shared bubble bath.

  • KuroBakura

    Oh wow!

    That was unexpected…and very sexy at the same time.

  • davefragments

    This goves new meaning to the “What did you do last night? question that so many parents and significant others ask…

    I went drinking
    I went to the stripper bar

    I was used to cross dimensions and visit a fire god who raped me…

    that’ last one is going to be hard to explain…

  • Katie Chambers

    Oh… My God… This is gonna get very facking weird for Kyle soon

    • Pup Ruff

      GONNA get weird? I think we passed weird and made a right turn into “Holy frakking crap!”

      • Holly

        Yup. WEIRD was like 6 exits ago.

      • Denise Cruz

        I’m with you in this one, Pup Ruff!
        I wouldn’t want that thing around me, never!!
        Such a crap!!

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        Weird is so far away I can’t even see it in the rear view mirror anymore!

  • Summer

    Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

  • silibub

    *waves hand* Eh, as gross as this is, I seriously doubt Laampros is actually going to do anything sexual to Kyle. I get the sense that that kind of thing isn’t really in the cards for him anymore — he speaks about lust like it’s no longer something he personally experiences.

    • Tina

      As much fun as it is to joke about it, I think you’re right. Plus Alex did WoG’d that Kyle would not be punished for being gay. Being raped by a fire demon seems like a punishment for being gay.

      • silibub

        It definitely does.

        • Tina

          So I think he’s safe from Demon rapes… Duncan on the other hand… >:3

          • davefragments

            Duncan wants to live forever.

          • Tina

            Dunan better be careful how he words his “wish”. Lampy could grant him his wish… as his sex slave for the rest of eternity MWUHAHAHAHAHA

          • davefragments

            a possible plot is that as the young ones fight an enhanced powerful Duncan, Laampros decides that Duncan didn’t live up to his promises or hasn’t worshipped him enough

        • ཟློད་

          Some might consider it a reward…!

          • Holly

            Sex? yes.
            Rape? no

            plus kyle can’t speak, he can’t consent.

          • ཟློད་

            If he thrusts back, that counts as consent!

          • Holly

            …No.

      • Ellen Harman

        Who said it would be rape. Demons seduce their prey. Incbus and sucubus are both sex demons, they feed on it. Rape would create fear not lust.

        • Holly

          Dubcon is a weird area that incubi live in. Also, I really don’t think Laampy is an incubus…

    • That’s my impressions as well.

    • WarGoddess

      I agree with your reasoning. He looks like he considers anything sexual to be a weakness.

      • SofiaT

        Yep, a weakness and a weapon for those who know how to exploit it: “Oh, you’re still using that thing? Yes, I first came up with lust when I was trying to make Adam listen to Eve and eat that damn fruit. Simple but oh, so effective.”

    • Holly

      I get the impression that demons in this ‘verse are kind of like in the SPN ‘verse (plus many other fandoms I know) where all demons were once human or mortal or something. I think that Laampros lost his interest in lust and such things long ago.

      • Or his ability for them.

      • silibub

        Yeah, I like that theory! I wonder how a mortal would go about becoming a demon in this universe.

        • Holly

          Now that is a very good question. There are several ways people become demons in other universes.

          1) The Soul Sell
          2) All Hellbound become Demons
          3) The Power exchange (also possibly a soul sell)
          4) The sacrafice
          5) The Curse
          6) DESTINY

          • silibub

            Huh…I wonder if Duncan’s here to sell his soul/exchange powers with Laampros, then, to guarantee he’ll always retain his strength and maybe become immortal. Perhaps he’s willing to eventually become a demon in exchange for those things.

          • Holly

            “The selling of the soul is strengthened by the corruption. The Fall. Your soul is already shrivelled. Surely, not enough for what that which you request. What else have you to offer?”

          • silibub

            “…an iTunes gift card?”

          • Holly

            *dies of laughter* Just…um… yeah. Wow, you broke my mind there sili

  • LimpBiskit

    Argh… I swore at the start if there were tentacles, demon!rape or excessive gore in here I’d leave skidmarks behind me on my way out… And I already signed on for the kickstarter project, too.. Really hope this isn’t going where I think its going T^T
    I’ve been burned in this genre before, you see.

    • Holly

      I am trying not to laugh at burned.

      Anyway, I don’t think that Alex will go for the Demon!rape. I don’t think Alex would put his characters through that.

      • mogoskier

        Alex already word of god that rape is not going to happen

        • Steven Klimecky

          I know, but …the Demon is already ogling and caressing him – that’s bad enough already.

          • Adam Black

            wait till he licks him from top to bottom with a 3 foot toungue.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Lucky Laampy – I’d give anything to be able to do something like that with a Kyle type. Hopefully he’ll just settle for tickling him with the tip of his beard instead. I wonder if he has sensitive nips.

        • ཟློད་

          Even though they are demons, they still have a right to say no.

      • LimpBiskit

        Yeah, I hope not too 🙁

        I was following a webcom a while back, preordered stuff, etc.. and then out of literally nowhere, BOOM, tentacles and demons.. Personally I feel that incidental rape is disgusting as a plot device, as the previous author used it, and when I politely tried to cancel my order and ask for a refund, the author went on a screamrant about ‘judgemental people’ and ‘stifling creativity’ and best of all, ‘readers trying to control the comic’.

        I think it was less artistic opinion/rights and more loss of a $100+ order. 🙁

        So yeah, once bitten twice shy I guess.

        • Holly

          Yeah Rape is never a good plot device.

          And yeah, you aren’t telling them to change their work. You just want a refund. That is not trying to control the comic.

          • LimpBiskit

            I think its well within a readers own rights to stop purchase of something if its just not their cup of tea. Especially when it goes over a certain price range. I even offered to ship previously bought chapters and merchandise back to the author for her to resell, since I intended to trash them otherwise. That prompted another explosive event, complete with cursing and ad hominem galore so I took a video of me shredding the stuff and sent her that instead. Immature, maybe. But hey, I’d already paid for it, been cursed twice and insulted again for refusing to buy more, so oh well LOL

          • Holly

            Well she was being being rude, and you owned the chapters you bought. I feel that was totally in your right.

          • Poppyjaz

            Yes I heard of something similar in a written story forum, and the author suddenly found religion and denounced all her previous yaoi writing, and refused to complete her readers pre-ordered ‘printed’ commitments.. .. but.. refused to pay anybody back their money. And then when people complained wanting there money back, she accused them of not being sympathetic to her religious beliefs.
            Aaah.. gotta love people sometimes.
            And on this side of things.. I don’t think Alex would let this big piece of hellboy, rape Kyle.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Feeling the exact same way here!

    • Adam Black

      There were tentacles in Chapter 1. That touched kyles body inside and out….

      • LimpBiskit

        :-/ Tentacles as in actual body parts, not magic ‘vapors’ drawn to let the reader ‘see’ them. Big difference.

        • Holly

          ….I have to admit that i have compiled a list in my head that I now want to quiz you on. As to what is okay and what is not. but that is weird and rude so I won’t.

          • LimpBiskit

            Go for it. I don’t really mind clarifying my preferences so people don’t find me strange or whatever.

          • Holly

            Okay so like all kinds of tentacles? Because sometimes people have them as like extra arms, and they are used less for penetration and more for hold people up etc.

            How do you feel about prehensile tails, or just tails.

            Does everyone need to be human?

            What about multiple sets of arms?

            I will stop for now.

          • LimpBiskit

            Tentacles in the usual hentai sense, as in ‘just a little something extra to screw you with my dear’.
            Tails are fine, as long as they aren’t being used as extra penis type things.
            Full on bestiality turns my stomach, but humanoid type characters are generally fine though I usually prefer the pairings to be human/human.

            I mean, people with ears or tails ie; Loveless aren’t really nonhuman to me, where humanized animals or folks like Mr. Laamp are.

            Actual extra arms don’t bother me, unless they’re just there for ‘more things etc etc’.

        • Adam Black

          Until I am woged it, I am assuming those tentacles are part of her true form.

      • Holly

        Oh right the magic clothes changing tentacles.

  • Sapfo

    Hot body, but I would not like that dud to go down on me. To many scarp teeth o.O

    • Holly

      Personally, I like sharp teeth.

      • Sapfo

        LOL
        Bad Holly, oh so bad! XD

        • Holly

          I blame the setting. *shifty eyes*

  • So many comments about Laampros wanting sex with Kyle. You’re freakig me out xD

    I reaaally don’t believe so. That is so not what he means. He’s just amused about reactions such as lust and how little it takes to ‘corrupt’ someone and bring them down.
    He’s amused seeing Kyle lying there strapped down and vunerable, and is making fun of the situation. No demon raping, but playing on Kyle’s fear. Nothing else.

    Even though that is mean and evil as well.

    • Sapfo

      “It´s been far to long since I´ve been able to enjoy…mortal pleasures.”

      I don´t think he can or it might not interest to him anymore.

      I think as you said humans amuses him in different ways.

    • Steven Klimecky

      I’m not so sure Kyle would think his situation is anything to made fun of!

      • Sapfo

        That is what makes a bad guy, he do bad things to people how don´t want bad things happening to them.

      • Of course Kyle doesn’t think it’s fun. He’s scared shitless.

      • Adam Black

        He’s inbound in hell with a demon over him.
        Being made fun of is the nicest thing that can happen to him

    • Steven Klimecky

      Even making fun at that particular situation, at Kyle’s expense, in addition to or on top of all the rest of the trauma, is pretty harsh.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Sofia – Help me! I’m trying to remember your assurances! But – THIS is making me extremely anxious!

    • SofiaT

      No need for my assurances Steven, we’ve got the WoG to rely on 🙂

      • ཟློད་

        He only said there wouldn’t be demon rape. Not that there wouldn’t be demon sexual harassment!

        • SofiaT

          I really don’t think this is sexual for Laampros. And Kyle is probably shitting his pants at the moment but at this point I’d reckon it’s fear for his life and fear for being harassed in the next few moments that he’s feeling. Nothing has happened yet (well, besides being betrayed by his lover and finding out he gave his trust to the wrong person).

          And I trust Alex that there will be no harassment either.

          • Steven Klimecky

            And the inappropriate pointy-fingered touching and caressing. Hmmm – gosh – I’m seeing harassment to the max here already! I guess very different POVs. Impossible for Kyle to be shitting his pants though, btw. Pants?

        • Steven Klimecky

          EXACTLY – though due to Kyle’s bondage, and that he is helpless to move away, it’s rather beyond that.

  • DoctorDeego

    I’ve seen enough hentai to know where this is going…

    • ཟློད་

      Yep, pretty soon Duncan will be wearing a maid uniform and cat ears.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Being bound naked and caressed by someone/something (also naked) that you have no sexual (or other) interest in is getting pretty darn close to what everyone keeps assuring isn’t taking place / going to take place!

    • Lampy is amused not sexually interested. Too long since he’s been able to… I don’t think he can.

      • Steven Klimecky

        YES – BUT — If someone bound me (a gay man with no sexual interest in women) naked and spread-eagled and then left the room, and in walked some woman, also naked, and she began staring at me and my body and my parts, and then began touching and caressing my body, I’d already feel sexually violated on many levels – and hence (dare I open the can of worms again) the term “rape” doesn’t seem too far off the mark even already.

        • Holly

          Yeah, valid point. I mean, yes Kyle is feeling exposed and a little violated. But still, Alex WoG’d that there would be no rape. I TRUST him.

          • Steven Klimecky

            No “fullblown” (awkward) rape, that is.

        • Adam Black

          i dunno.

          Is that wild-eyed fear, or interest i see on Kyle?

        • I understand that. And it is very humiliating and violating. What I’m just saying is that the demon isn’t showing interest in him sexually other than looking at a specimen, like a pinned butterfly. It’s all rather scientific. And that’s as far as it will go.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hope you are correct; not quite convinced of that assertion here though – that there is no implied sexual interest – I think there is some from the words and language being bantered around, and the manner of those clawed caresses against Kyle’s naked and helpless form.

          • Each person sees a different tone in Laampy’s voice, puts emphasis on different part of the sentence. Is the demon showing a marked pleasure in what he’s doing, probably, that and amusement, but he’s a demon and he would find pleasure in Kyle’s discomfort (yes, I’m sure it’s more than that, but I’m sticking with that word for now). I just don’t think it’s sexual pleasure. I’m sticking with the pinned butterfly analogy. And I’m going to trust Alex’s WoG.

          • Steven Klimecky

            But what I think many may be overlooking is that the situation can’t HELP but BE sexual, just from it’s nature – two naked entities, one in a position of power and dominance, the other bound and helpless and in a nonconsensual position of submission, and the naked entity in power leering menacingly, and talking suggestively, and engaging in bodily fondling and caressing, etc., etc. I’m dismayed at how many here can ignore the default and implicit sexual nature of all this. It is as if people can somehow argue that the example that I’ve given is not sexual nor a violation in it’s nature. If you are bound, naked and helpless, and someone in whom you have no physical interest in or attraction to – whom you may even fear and/or despise – who may revolt you – comes in, also totally naked, in charge and with power over you, and starts leering at you and looking you up and down, and talking suggestively to you and starts caressing your body and fondling you, etc. How can that NOT be sexual in at least a number of very real levels. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this.

          • When a doctor examines a naked body, it is not sexual. When someone sculpts/paints a nude model it is not sexual. Granted yes, patients and models are not tied down, but still it’s not sexual. And it appears to me that Laampy’s state appears to be a natural state to him. He’s not coming in and undressing, he’s already undressed, because that’s the way he is.

            I’m not discounting anyone’s feelings, as I said each person is feeling a different tone, finding different emphasis on the various words, the various drawings. I’m taking his words to mean he has been unable to have mortal pleasure, not because the opportunity is not there, but because it is either no longer possible or no longer holds appeal to him.

            It’s not that the others aren’t taking into consideration what you’re describing, it’s because they’re reading and viewing it differently.

            I’m seeing the demon enjoying tormenting Kyle, but I don’t read sexual interest in the demon towards Kyle. He’s amused at how sex weakens mortals.

          • Steven Klimecky

            The expressions and words and physical actions that Laampros are using are NOT professional – certainly NOT those of a doctor or artist. (Feeling a little offended that it was thought I needed that particular lecture about the difference). Also, a great many doctors over the years have abused and taken advantage of their patients in a sexual way, sadly.

          • Adam Black

            Kyle was bound by duncan.
            You are just assuming he isnt into big red muscles.

            I predict Laampros will take Kyle under his wings, and train him in all the gay and dark arts, so someone like Duncan cant abuse his powers again.
            Give Laampros a chance.

          • Steven Klimecky

            IF Kyle is turned on by Llampros (though I don’t think his expressions indicate this), then I take back a few of my protestations.

        • Feverfew_M

          Well, how I see it, this is supposed to be a threat to our hero. And this threat isn’t even entirely sexual — magically chained in some hell dimension with a big powerful demon, Kyle’s life could well be in danger. We are meant to be anxious, just as Kyle is. But ultimately, I think this threat will be overcome, either by Anni intervening, Laampros just kidding, or Kyle finding the strength to defeat him.
          I’m totally on team TrustAlex! 🙂

          • Holly

            Team TrustAlex needs T-shirts ^_^

          • Feverfew_M

            Yes! 😀

          • SofiaT

            We should ask for them to be made along with the Duncan body pillows.

          • Holly

            Totally! ^_^

          • Steven Klimecky

            You mean the threat is sexual AND potentially more severe as well.

          • Feverfew_M

            Yes, both, but I think Laampros is merely using the sexual threat to enhance Kyle’s feeling of vulnerability. The implication being that he could do so much worse. And the message is probably for Anni as much as for Kyle, like: “What are you going to do if I threaten your boy toy? How much does he really mean to you?”
            As often with sexual threats this is likely a lot more about a display of power than about actual sexual desire.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I’ll buy that.

        • SofiaT

          True -even having someone leer at you can make you feel violated and icky and wanting to go take a shower. But I think at this point Kyle is not worrying so much about what’s happening as what he thinks may happen in the very near future. And we already know (WoG) that is not going to happen.

          I think he’s probably running on adrenaline now and when this is all over, then the emotional pain is going to really kick in. But then he will most likely hurt over Duncan’s betrayal and his own foolishness to trush him so easily, rather than “omg, that big red demon saw me naked”.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, I think it’s going to be all that – with “That big red demon was stroking his claws all over my naked body!” as well as the rest. Just LOOK at the expression’s on the poor boy’s face as that is happening. He is aghast and horrified.

          • Adam Black

            thats just his O-face.

          • SofiaT

            C’mon Adam, stop teasing him.

          • Steven Klimecky

            That is how, as we see in these pages as well, some entities find their pleasure. Thus Adam could be said to share SOME traits with Laampros, though, sadly, I reckon it’s not the hypothesized penile proportions.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Have we determined for a fact that it is still continuing? I really think someone on the creative side should chime in to let us know if and when Kyle’s O. stopped.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I think there will be hurt over all of it, the demon encounter included. Don’t underestimate how such things can affect someone who may be painfully shy (assumption based on how Kyle dashed into that bed) – I’ve been in situations where I was very upset when I’ve had to be exposed to people I really didn’t want to see me. When I was in my pre-teens, I was upset for weeks when a friend of my father’s (and around my dad’s age) walked in to say hello to me when I was in the shower – he pulled back the shower curtain to say hello, etc. Even though it was actually all very innocent on his part, and he was very apologetic afterwards (because firstly, I was very startled and reacted strongly thinking it was something it was not, and secondly, I think I was in tears afterwards), but I really wasn’t used to random non-professional people seeing my body, and, when possible since then, I have been very deliberate as to who I have given that opportunity to. I still have lots of fears of reactions due to a range of bodily imperfections, though , granted, Kyle doesn’t have to worry about any of that since he is about as perfect as one can get physically, short of maybe a little chest fur and/or a nice trail down his beautiful abs.

      • Denise Cruz

        Eek! God helps us!

      • Adam Black

        Is that a shadow or is he swinging a 2 foot dong ?

        • SofiaT

          I’m not that sure he has a “dong”

          • Adam Black

            I wouldnt put that to the test

        • I’m wavering between 2 ft and no feet. But he does seem to be snickering at Kyle’s inches.

        • I think his thighs are creating shadows. But yeah, it’s a very good shadow.

    • You need to have more faith in Alex. As much as the comic has already surprised me, I would be floored if Alex took it to that step.
      Alex is not going to take this comic and turn it into fullblown rape yaoi.

      • ཟློད་

        Maybe Laampros will just put the tip in.

        • Adam Black

          Is it a pointy tip?

          Looks like Kyle is catching Laampros on fire.

          • Steven Klimecky

            If you like pointy tips, call me 😛

          • Adam Black

            Not a of fan of any sharp objects in bed. Im not a cat.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – not talking about that at all (and “pointy” being used in a purely relative way).

      • Steven Klimecky

        I guess what I am trying to say, as my example was trying to get across, is that it is pretty near the “R-word” already, regardless of whether it is “fullblown” (perhaps bad choice of terms) or not.

  • Dark_Otter

    “Um… excuse me… Mr. Lamp-roast? Sir? Your , um, claws… they’re really pointy… I mean, did you clean them first? I’m sorry, that was rude… but… uh… pointy…”

    You’re all going to think I’m lost the filling out of my Hot Pocket, but I think Kyle/Laampros might work out better for the former than Kyle/Duncan. At least Big Red is honest about what he wants.

    • Denise Cruz

      Eeks!! You can’t be serious!! XDD That freak is disgusting! Yiuk!

      • ཟློད་

        What…? Is it the goatee?

        • Denise Cruz

          The goatee too!
          The horns..the face… that nails..his feet..
          Jesus! I couldn’t! .. yuk!!

        • Denise Cruz

          I don’t know… His goatee, his horns, his face, his feet, his claws(?!), nails(?!) … even his behavior, acting so full of himself! (I HATE it !!) I now!He’s a demon! It’s expected to be like this, but I still hate it very much! XD
          Sorry! But, Eeeeks!! XD

    • Holly

      First, I think that Laampros keeps himself very well groomed.

      Second, I get the feeling he really doesn’t care about bodily pleasures anymore. He’s just reminiscing.

      Third, *sighs* you might be right.

      • Mike W

        Can I just say that hell is an eternity without a nail salon

        • Holly

          Hell is eternity without any salon. But I feel his well groomed goatee means someone is taking care of his beauty needs. It’s probably their punishment. Like Blood Nail dip to strengthen his claws…

          • Mike W

            Nail technicians go to heaven and hairdressers go to hell.

          • Holly

            What did the hair stylists do?!

          • Adam Black

            probably cut my hair a few times.

    • Adam Black

      Laampros would make a much better lover.

      • He looks a little more considerate.

        • Holly

          That is a slap in the face, for sure. The 12 foot demon looks like he’d be a more considerate lover than you.

          Though I agree.

          • Well at this point in time. It’s possible that if it was more than an act with the Duncanator…

    • strangeangel24601

      “Lost the filling out of my Hot Pocket.” XD I’ll have to remember that one!

      • Holly

        I kind of super want a Hot Pocket, or Pizza Pop, or Pizza Pocket, Crustini etc right now. Like massive craving.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Don’t particularly agree with your assertion in the second sentence, BUT loved “lost the filling out of my Hot Pocket” – produced a rare chuckle from me. BTW, just for the record, my favorite type of guy (physically) is the dark (haired) otter type. Swimmer’s build but not shaved – with a nice sexy pattern of soft chest and/or ab fur and a dark treasure trail and dark, furry armpits – makes me TOTALLY swoon!

  • silibub

    Also — I love how Laampros is just blatantly disinterested and even disdainful toward Duncan. Look at his sneer in the first panel at the implication that Duncan might have entered his domain without him realizing it, and the way Laampros’s body even blocks Duncan’s speech balloon in the second panel, like he’s disregarding Duncan’s response even as it’s coming out of his mouth. Nice touch!

    • Holly

      Yes, Adam does amazing things with the artwork, does he not? What I would give to see the whole process. *sighs*

      • SofiaT

        I think it’s Alex who adds the speech balloons -must be part of the “dough-kneading”

        • Holly

          Probably. The three of them are just amazing.

          • ཟློད་

            They’ll probably have to hire a fourth person to add penises in post-production.

  • Kyle: “Oh come on, It’s not THAT small.”

  • SofiaT

    The way I see it, there are 4 possible scenarios here:
    1) Either Laampros is all talk and no bite (the most likely)
    2) Duncan will intervene if things get out of hand (I’d love for that to happen but I’m not holding my breath either)
    3) Spooky or some other Deus ex Machina will intervene
    4) Kyle will go supernova and free himself (that would be awesome!)

    Thoughts?

    • ཟློད་

      Laampy is just teasing him. And Duncan.

    • Holly

      Kyle going Nova would be a sight! I feel like if Duncan tried to intervene, Laammpros would laugh in his face. I think that Laampros is of not threat to Kyle though. However, he is very dangerous to Duncan who really shouldn’t be playing with fire in so many ways.

      DEUS EX SPOOKY WOULD BE GREAT! Though that is an awkward talk for Kyle.

      Deus Ex Fluke, brings me back to the earlier conversation on how much bad luck Fluke needs to save Kyle. I think it’s at the Fluke himself dies and goes to hell level. THOUGHTS?!

    • I think he is unable and uninterested in anything sexual. Duncan actually looks a little startled that Lampy walked over to Kyle. I also think that we might learn about Kyle’s powers. Other than that, I’m still percolating my thoughts

      • strangeangel24601

        Again with the percolating!

        • SofiaT

          They were talking about Brazilian coffee earlier, I think it’s stuck from then.

        • Yeah, sorry, I roast coffee for a living.

          • Holly

            I WANT A JOB!!! T_T

          • It’s the family business. I stumbled into it.

          • Holly

            Lucky. Yeah I have no networking connections here. Though, my favorite adult toy store is hiring. It would be amazing to work there. The vibe is really safe and open. Plus, I am totally comfortable discussing all the back walls.

          • Go for it! Plus you probably would get an employee discount.

          • Holly

            hehe yeah that would be nice.

          • Those things are expensive!

          • Holly

            Some items are yes. There are some really interesting things in stock. Plus it’s not just toys. There are Diva Cups, Massage balls, books on gender roles and psychology and stuff. Just a really cool place.

          • Yeah all the best toys!

            That’s the way it should be. A store like that should be educational as well as recreational

          • Holly

            OH yeah, they offer workshops and everything. Keeping people educated, clean, and happy.

          • Fill out the application then! It would be good fodder for your writing too. 😀

          • Holly

            yeah I will probably run the app over Sunday or Monday. I had a weird week, and my filming schedule this weekend is a little intense.

          • Filming?

          • Holly

            I told you before, I’m in a web series. 😛

          • Sorry, that’s right. Brain has been slow on a few things this week. Add that to falling on my head a few times in my horsey days and weee!

          • Holly

            You used to fall on your head when you rode horses!? O_O

          • Well a time or two when I fell off (er bucked off). I was wearing a helmet, but those were not what they are today.

          • Holly

            Well that does not sound good at all. 🙁

          • It wasn’t fun.

          • strangeangel24601

            I make soap! Hooray for weird yet necessary jobs!

          • Indeed! What kind of soap?

          • strangeangel24601

            Handmade, all-natural, old fashioned beef tallow soap.

          • Holly

            Cool! How do you scent it?

          • strangeangel24601

            Essential oils and, to some extent, the different liquids I use in my lye solution. One of my personal favorites is my Chai Latte soap, which doesn’t have any added fragrance at all. I just brew a nice strong pot of chai tea and use that as the liquid in the recipe. It’s nice and subtle.

          • Very nice.

          • strangeangel24601

            Yeah, that’s why I started making my own as a hobby. Then one thing led to another and now I do it for a living. 🙂

          • That’s how we ended up in the coffee business. My dad couldn’t find decent coffee so started roasting his own.

          • Bookmarked!

          • Holly

            Like Tyler Durden? *wonders about strange’s split personality and fight clubs etc*

          • strangeangel24601

            Exactly like Tyler Durden. Only without the extreme multiple personality disorder and desire to completely reset society as we know it. Also I use a blend of beef tallow, coconut oil, olive oil, and other skin conditioning oils instead of human fat. So not really. 🙂

          • Holly

            Olive oil soaps and cleansers make me smell like cookies…

    • silibub

      I’m betting on a combination of 1 and 2 — I think Laampros is going to try to discomfit Duncan and keep him at a disadvantage, and if getting handsy with Kyle sets Duncan on edge, than Laampros might push it. Duncan would probably try deflecting his attention from Kyle by getting down to business, so he would intervene, but subtly.

      Duncan seems savvy enough to navigate the situation without putting himself or Kyle at grave risk, so it’s unlikely that he’d suddenly be like “Hands off my man, asshole!” — that would be counterproductive. So I doubt we’ll see Duncan blatantly standing up to Laampros for Kyle’s sake, but I’m holding out hope that Duncan will do what he can to keep Kyle unharmed and (relatively) unmolested.

      • SofiaT

        I think that -at this point- if it came between choosing himself and choosing Kyle, Duncan would choose himself. So you’re right, I don’t think he’d do anything counterproductive, when he seems to be trying so hard to act subservient.

        I do think though that if he can diffuse the situation without harming his plans, he will try to keep Kyle safe. And while he looks to be thrown off balance at this page, I doubt he goes anywhere and does anything unprepared.

        Frankly, that’s the scenario I’d go for (as well as Kyle freeing himself) but I’d rather not hope and then have my hopes crushed.

        But I really think Laampros is not planning on doing anything with Kyle, he just realised Duncan’s tone in the previous page was a bit arrogant and is trying to put him back in his place by dismissing him and focusing on the “vessel”.

        • silibub

          I completely agree with you, especially about Laampros giving Duncan the brush-off to take him down a peg or ten. I don’t think Laampros will actually do anything to Kyle, but I do believe he’d act like he’s going to, just to see if Duncan squirms. He might be trying to determine how valuable Kyle is to Duncan, or what the nature of their relationship is.

          • That is a good point. The Lamp testing Duncan

          • Steven Klimecky

            Although, he is already “doing things” / molesting / engaging in nonconsensual touching and fondling and ogling with Kyle.

      • Steven Klimecky

        BUT Duncan already admitted to Kyle that all his affectionate words to him and promises, etc. were all LIES and deceits.

    • Feverfew_M

      I think Laampros is just trying to get a reaction out of them — like, give Kyle a scare, and see if Anni is going to bristle. I think Anni is going to protest, which will likely get more amusement from Mr. Lampy.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      5.) Duncan will make his wish and Laapros will “miss interpret” it as something horrific. Sort of like a monkey paw wish. The spell binding Kyle will disipate leaving him stranded in Laampros backyard.

      • SofiaT

        If Duncan went there to “wish” for something or propose a deal, knowing what we know about Mr Control Freak, most likely he’s thought of the wording down to the last comma.

        Although I think he may be there in search of information rather than to ask for something to happen.

        • Although he does look a bit startled that L walked right passed him.

          • SofiaT

            Well, of course the possibility of someone dismissing him never crossed his mind.

            Huge blow on the huge ego 😀

          • Holly

            That man needs a blow to the Ego, as well as one to the head.

          • SofiaT

            I’d go for the groin >:)

            And I say this with all the love I have for Duncan.

          • Holly

            Why do I get the feeling that you “giving a blow” to Duncan’s groin does not consist of hitting? *arches brow*

          • SofiaT

            Wrong feeling. I really am talking about kicking him in the nuts. >:D

            …but afterwards I’d most likely give him ice-cream because I can’t stay mad at him for too long. *sigh*

          • Holly

            My first thought was “What flavour?” XP

          • SofiaT

            Burbon-laced butterscotch 😀

          • Holly

            I had a scotch butterscotch milkshake thing once. It was great. Though expensive. But good. Very good. SMOOTH in so many ways.

          • Very very true. That L was more interested in Kyle could be considered a second blow.

    • 6) Laampy releases Kyle from his captivity. (really not likely)

      • SofiaT

        No, it could happen. We still don’t know what’s Kyle’s relation with this realm, and therefore Laampros himself.

        Too many unknown variables to dismiss any possibility.

        • I think that’s what has me stuck. I just don’t know. I mean you see the look Laamy’s sporting in that first panel and I get the feeling he was rather insulted by Duncan’s assumption he was told to expect him. Then he brushes right by him with that look of “NEW TOY” and…he goes on expecting him like a pinned butterfly, some exotic species and insults Duncan. And Laamy obviously knows what Kyle’s powers are and where they came from… It’s rather frustrating. Alex is an evil genius.

    • 6) Laampy releases Kyle from his captivity. (really not likely)

    • 7) Duncan is going to ask to make Kyle stronger? (Sure AJ and Duncan is the toothfairy.)

      • SofiaT

        Why not, that’s possible too.

        …I’m talking about Duncan being the toothfairy ;D

        • HA! Yes, more likely that Duncan is the toothfairy. I can see him flitting about with wings of gossamer steel.

          • SofiaT

            And a wand with a star on top. Don’t forget the wand.

          • I would NEVER forget the wand. Also, of course, made of steel and can be used as a weapon if needed.

    • Tina

      I would love number 2 to happen. Deep down I still love Redillator (especially since its so rare finding a heroxvillain couple these days) and I want things to work out. This just might put a little band aid on things.

      9) Duncan gets his wish but it goes horribly, horribly wrong and Kyle has to save him somehow… naked

      • SofiaT

        I think that’s scenario (5) -Plato’s stepchild proposed something similar. Lets call its (5b) 🙂

        And yes, that’s why I would like scenario (2) as well; but I’m not so sure Duncan’s long way to redemption will start so soon after the betrayal… I think we’ll have to wait quite a bit for that.

        Fingers crossed I’m wrong! 😀

        • Tina

          Oh right didn’t see that. I added the naked half!

          • SofiaT

            So, 5b 😀

    • Steven Klimecky

      Hoping for something along lines of 1, 2, and/or 3.
      3 WOULD be awesome – and it flings him back past the “walls of blood and pain” again and into his normal reality frame.

  • ཟློད་

    The reason Kyle is prevented from speaking is in order to keep him from asking stupid questions like, “So, Laampros, what kind of music do you like?”

    • Sapfo

      “Well, I like Easy listening.”
      “Really, would not have thought so.”
      “No, I know. I am often misunderstood. There are so many who judge me on my appearance and I tend to express myself clumsily.”

  • Lilka Lilianna

    Many people seem to forget that rape is not only about penetration. You don’t have to have someone put something inside you to be raped, and as a rape victim myself, I can tell you that being bound, forced into orgasm, and then being touched in sexual manner while still being bound, naked, AND unable to protest, very much counts as rape.

    • ཟློད་

      Semantics aside, I am sorry for your experience. I hope that my joking has not aggravated your memories.

      • SofiaT

        Ditto. 🙁

      • Lilka Lilianna

        No worries, it has not – sometimes joking about horrible experiences can be very liberating.

        And thanks for your concern! 🙂

    • Holly

      I’ve been assaulted twice. I have to agree that any kind of non-consensual touching is really not a good thing. Still, the intent of the scene doesn’t seem aggressive to me.

      Though, yeah definitely going to scarring for Kyle….

    • I think all of us (or at least most) is aware of that. It’s ‘just’ the hinting of Laampros taking this further than Anni did in the physical manner that I know I personally speak against. I really don’t believe Alex would take that step, the full penetrative rape, and it’s not something I’d joke about happening either.

      If we have to talk semantics, Kyle wasn’t being forced into an orgasm. He was willing all the way up until then. But you’re right, everything after that -with the bounding and prolonged feeling of pleasure – that is not something Kyle consented to and it’s force.
      Laampros touching him while still being bound is not consent. It’s the same as any prisoner not consenting to being touched in any way. It’s an ‘invation’ of your physical and emotional boundaries. That Laampros makes fun of Kyle is just another verbal slap in the face, reminding him of why he ended in this situation.

      While I haven’t been raped, I was bullied heavily and have been in a situation similar to this (I had clothes on, but was tied up and made fun of, got poked and was covered in dirt). It’s a break of trust and it was a violation.
      Kyle is in a situation right now where he’s violated, but he’s not about to get raped in the sense of Laampros penetrating him.

      • Lilka Lilianna

        Hmm. The way I understand it, the orgasm happened after the spell that enhances the pleasure has been cast, after Kyle has been bound, and after Anni said the final words that – so to speak – made the fire erupt. So while Kyle was perfectly willing to have fully consensual sex with Anni, it stopped being such the moment he was betrayed, bound and forced into feeling pleasure even without any input from Anni. The way I see it, it was like having a vibrator stuck inside you while you are bound and powerless to remove it.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Again – YES! Thanks again for your courage and wisdom to say this.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Thank you also for your reply and comments. I am heartened to know there is a contingent of persons here who echo my feelings and sentiments on this matter regarding what has happened to and what is happening to Kyle. I think a lot of people should heed those words also. You explained things so well, and I appreciate another voice that is lent to saying some of the same points I’ve been trying to get across.

        • Lilka Lilianna

          I simply could not stay silent, not in the era of rape culture where rape is kawaii and considered the best possible way to develop a character…

          I was very disappointed that Alex chose to go the way of sexual abuse with Anni/Kyle relationship, because if these two still end up together by the end of the story… well, that would be revolting and qualifying for serious therapy for Kyle, to put it mildly.

          It is a great pity, too, because from the very beginning I was rooting for these two to – eventually – have a happy relationship, and now I can not in clear conscience be a fan of that pairing anymore…. and so I’m seriously thinking of abandoning the comic.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Sharing similar disappointments here – I really REALLY wanted them to be together also, but it is more difficult to see how that could be possible now. Some pretty big and unlikely changes would have to take place, but I can’t see how Kyle could forgive or overcome these events psychologically in order to be able to ever trust or be intimate with Duncan ever again, which makes me very sad.

    • Steven Klimecky

      YESSS!!!!! I’ve been saying almost those same exact things myself in numerous posts lately! THANK YOU!!!!!

      • Lilka Lilianna

        Regardless of whether someone is ready to call this rape or not, it IS sexual abuse, plain and simple, I think it is – simply put – sad that such a horrible experience is so often used as a plot device. For entertainment. And even more sad that people seem to be having genuine fun with it.

        • Steven Klimecky

          I’m afraid I’d have to agree with you.

  • The expression of absolute horror and revulsion on Kyle’s face is amazing. I’m really not wanting to see a giant red demon mount Kyle so that not being a plot point would be…awesome.

    I do enjoy how Laampros just walks right the fuck past Anni.
    “My Lord Laampros”
    “NOPE naked kid.”
    “Sir”
    “Nopenopenope.”

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      He did say it had been far too long since he’d been able to enjoy mortal pleasures. Maybe nobody has tossed a virgin sacrifice his way in the past few centuries.

      • I must say, I had a good laugh at your screen name. 😀

      • Maria White

        Feh, who wants virgins? Seriously, sacrifice your whores! They know all the BEST things! Like… cross finger crippler.
        I totally did not Google the top eleven weirdest sounding sex positions.

        • No no. No. No googling.

          • Maria White

            But but… but MOooM! I have to!

  • Chibi

    well you know a date has gone wrong when you end up naked with satin(or some other >> red demon person .. thing) ….

    • Holly

      Unless it was originally part of both parties plans. Which obviously this was not.

      • Chibi

        mm not sure many plan to end a date naked with satin .or a demon named laampros…. but … I suppose it could happen

        • ཟློད་

          SATIN is a fabric. SATAN is our dark lord.

          • SofiaT

            “our”? 😛

          • ཟློད་

            We all worship the same Satan, by many names. Some call him Hermès; others know him as Louis Vuitton.

          • Holly

            Some call him Mark Pellegrino

          • Sapfo

            Hermes, is he not the god of messages? o.O

          • SofiaT

            If we’re talking about the god, he was the protector of thieves, merchants, gamblers and he was also responsible for leading the souls of those who died to Hades, as well as the messenger of the gods.

            But I was under the impression she was talking about the brand here.

          • Holly

            The accent means it’s the designer, not the God.

          • Sapfo

            so out of my comfort zone. I don´t know nothing about designers….. can´t we talk about lite Satan or maybe someone named Stan instead, them I know something about…. o.o

          • Holly

            YOU know about my brother?! What do you know about Stan?! *is only slightly surprised that even random internet people know of my brother*

          • Sapfo

            Ahh, mmm, ah, he is your brother….yes, he is….that I know…now….

          • Holly

            Sorry I couldn’t resist when you said you know things about people named Stan. XP

          • SofiaT

            The accent on the god’s name goes there too.

          • ཟློད་

            No, he’s the god of headscarves.

          • Guest

            And the god of medicine.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Messenger of the gods. And the god of medicine.

          • SofiaT

            Messenger of the gods is correct but the god of medicine was Asclepios, not Hermes.

          • Steven Klimecky

            At this time I’ll defer to your authority on the matter.

          • SofiaT

            *shrugs* Doesn’t surprise me. Americans tend to think it was Perseus who rode Pegasus too -I’ve actually corrected someone about that but they insisted they were right so I gave up in the end.

            And that Aphrodite was the daughter of Zeus, is another popular but false impression.

            I blame Hollywood and Xena the Warrior Princess.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Was it not not Athena who was a major goddess who the “daughter” of Zeus, though arising into existence from out his forehead?

          • SofiaT

            Yes, he swallowed her mother (the personification of wisdom) whole because of a prophecy that if he had a son born to wisdom, he’d lose his throne to him.

            When Athena was born, in full armor, the earth shook, because knowledge changes everything. But then she dropped her weapons on her father’s feet, declaring her submission to him and all was right with the universe.

          • Holly

            Is this a Devil Wear Prada joke?

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Always bring a dictionary to the tattoo parlor, kids. Permanent misspelled ink could mean the difference between being an ardent Death Metal fan and a contestant on Project Runway.

          • Holly

            Totally saw a tattoo on a guy that said “Hail Santa!”

          • Somehow I think that’s actually more ‘cool’ than if it was spelled correct.

          • Klaus

            But that is how you spell Santa.

          • Holly

            The issue is that one can’t be sure if they wrote it wrong or if they did it on purpose.

            Like how I want to get the words “Leviticus 19: 28” as a tattoo because I think it’s funny.

          • strangeangel24601

            As a Christian who, well, hangs out here, I find that hilarious as well.

          • Holly

            I got the idea when I saw a guy had tattooed the part of Lev that says not to sleep with dudes. and I was like “There is a verse that prohibits tattoos, jerkwad” Then I was like, WOW that would be funny.

          • strangeangel24601

            Not to mention verses that prohibit eating ham and shrimp, wearing clothing with mixed fabric, haircuts… but you already know this. No need to rehash it.

          • Holly

            Honestly, the Old Testament has a ton of laws that no one follows. People pick and choose. “But we like ham and shrimp and blended cloth.” Yes well, some people like gay sex. Leave it alone.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hallelujah!

          • Stubbylegs

            That is the most helpful comment on the Internet!!!!

        • Holly

          Naked with Satin is sexy.

          Naked with Satan, maybe less so.

          • Chibi

            oops typo XD … ::fixs::

  • La Belle Gigi

    Uh oh…

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Speaking of Kyle and the source of his powers:

    It just occurred to me that he and some of the other Young Protectors powers are similar to the classic Greek elements of Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Aether.

    Kyle is Fire, Tsunami is Water, Flyboy is Air, Fluke could possibly be considered Aether, which would leave either the Commander or Spooky as Earth.

    Okay, I just had a flash back to those cheesy Captain Planet cartoons.

    • SofiaT

      We had that converation with a few of the others a few pages back. There were even some “Goooooo Planet!”‘ going around. 😀

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        I’m late to the party and missed the comments on the earlier pages.

        • SofiaT

          It was only last week -but I’m not telling you to go looking for the thread, because while it would be a fun reading, it would also be like looking like a niddle in the haystack.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Last week was a comment heavy week. I’ll take just your word for it.

          • Holly

            I recall making “By your powers combined” joke on Wednesday

    • Adam Black

      Commander and Spooky are Mind and Spirit

  • ཟློད་

    I guess the same spell also keeps him from having to go the bathroom? Because I totally thought that’s why he made Anni stop a few pages back.

    • Holly

      no he made anni stop because he was worried about what would happen if he orgasmed

      • Klaus

        He made him stop because he didn’t want to come so soon. He wanted them to do more than just rub against each other.

        • Steven Klimecky

          So bittersweet. Makes me rather teary-eyed to think about. *SIGH!*

      • Firebirds1

        which apparently was a valid concern O.O

        • Holly

          agreed

    • Steven Klimecky

      I usually have to go the the wc after an orgasm. And considering the magnitude of Kyle’s climax (if it has indeed stopped), I think he’d really be feeling the need to spend a penny about now – also considering that the great fear of the situation might be causing his parasympathetic nervous system to initiate that urination reflex too.

  • And so, Kyle meets his new lover.

  • I have to say that my favorite (if you can call it that) panel of Laampros is panel 1 on this page.
    That ‘silly human’ sneer and disbelief in Anni thinking thinking he could show up unexpected. Why should he even spend time on that.
    Arrogance when it’s ‘best’.

  • fujoshifanatic

    I don’t even know what to make of any of this. The development on the last two pages kind of threw me for a loop. I was expecting more of the Platinum Princess when they went to the other world/dimension, but instead we get a giant, flaming demon with a shadowy Crotch of Doom (I’m scared to know what’s lurking in there!) looking like he’s ready to literally devour Kyle whole. :-0 I am know simply along for the ride at this point, and although it’s getting scary at this point, I am still enjoying the twists and turns as we go along.

    • Mike W

      I always wondered what the “cod” in codpiece referred to

      • SofiaT

        Apparently “cod” is an medieval word for scrotum.
        It’s amazing what you can learn from Highlander historical romances. They’re a fountain of knowledge!

        Which is why I read them of course. The hunks on the cover have nothing to do with it.

  • Holly

    I kind of wish we could see Ducan’s expression in panel two. If only to get a feel for his mood…

    • Dude, I’m being subservient here!

      • Klaus

        And I hate it.

        • This so against my nature too! A little respect.

          • Holly

            MMM but make the alpha males submit is the most delicious.

          • Every so often an alpha needs to be put on his back.

            Um…yeah, I meant that to sound that way.

          • Holly

            hehe I am sure you did

          • Um….sure, sure I did.

      • Holly

        God if a guy said that to me, I’d have to explain to him that attitude does not go with submission.

        • Well no. Lick my boot and remain silent does. But that’s the look on his face. 😛

          • Holly

            yeah probably. “look how humble I’m being. I am the best at being humble.”

          • He needs to be kicked in his humble. 😛

          • Holly

            What dearest AJ is a humble?

          • The same as his ego.

  • Klaus

    I can well understand that this is expensive to make. The artists must spend more time on this than is usual for comics. So much attention to detail and textures.

  • SofiaT

    “The protections surrounding your world”… so getting into this world is not so hard, it’s our world that can’t be penetrated easily. Interesting… does that mean Laampros would like to enter our world? Is this what Duncan is here to offer him? And what is he expecting in exchange?

    This is maddening, I need to know!!

    • Holly

      well yeah. I doubt that hell needs to be protected from us….

      ugh I agree, so many questions. so few answers.

      • SofiaT

        Yeah, but it seems that considerate power is necessary not only to enter our world, but also to exit it. It’s interesting that it goes both ways. I’m also not sure the protections are in place just to keep the creatures of this Hell realm out.

        • Holly

          Why do you think they are present then?

          • SofiaT

            I don’t know! That’s my problem 😛

          • Megan Staples

            It’s general conjecture that the “walls of hell” were made to keep the demons inside and to keep mortals out. Although I don’t believe in the “Hell” mythos, myself. A god would have better things to do than create a place to punish souls. I’m more of a believer in Karma and the Wheel of Life.

          • SofiaT

            In the previous page he said “the walls of blood and pain” -so he gave me the impression it was the walls of Hell he had succesfully penetrated. Now, we learn that it was the protections of our realm he was trying to pierce… does that mean those protections are “the walls of blood and pain”? That sounds strange, that’s what I’m saying.

          • He must really, really be desperate. I was going to ask if Duncan could be sick, but since he’s a rather impervious…

  • Megan Staples

    Oh poor poor Kyle, he’s going to be so mentally scarred. Maybe Duncan was premature in promising no physical harm? How can he keep Lampros from hurting Kyle if the demon really wants to hurt him? I’m on the edge of my seat!

    • Holly

      Again showing how much Duncan over estimated his own control in this scenario. Oh i hope Kyle will be okay…

      • Megan Staples

        Me too!

  • Sapfo

    Power, who has the power?
    Kyle thought he had everything under control. The same was with Duncan. But both were wrong on some different.
    Laampros is the one in charge here!

    • SofiaT

      It’s his territory, true. But I just can’t see Duncan entering enemy territory without a plan in place.

      This is a poker game and it’s too early to know who is holding what cards here.

    • Lust was what brought Kyle down (temporarily), but that arrogance of Duncan’s might be his down fall.
      He’s too used to be an alpha dog that he has a hard time being humble even now, meeting someone who probably can knock him of his pedestal. One thing is wanting to make a deal with ‘the devil’ – another thing is actually doing it.

      Gonna be interesting to see the final outcome.

    • Klaus

      I am not convinced that Duncan is not in control. Laampros is teasing him, yes, but he would not have got himself into this sitiation if he was not confident of the outcome. Maybe the spell protects them as long as certain rules are followed? Or maybe Laampros is known not to harm visitors who behave? Either might explain why Kyle’s unability to speak is what keeps him alive. Or perhaps Duncan has some sort of power over Laampros, most likely through Sircea.

      Edit: just noticed that Sofia T said it in much fewer words below.

      • SofiaT

        Great minds and all 🙂

  • Sapfo

    Right now I can only think: “Bad, bad Duncan! You do not poke a hole in something that is meant to protect us all. It is not a good move. What where you thinking!”

    To use some were basic items to demonstrate this. If you have a condom, if it is whole then it will protect you. Poke holes in it and it does not protect anymore.

    Duncan, do you understand now?

    • Holly

      Ducan is arrogant enough to think he does not need condoms or dimensional walls I’m sure. Now I feel like the fallout form this is going to be a metaphorical STI for the Annihilator.

    • Klaus

      Esoterrorists anyone?

      • Steven Klimecky

        Ha!

  • So it was lust… Is that the only way Duncan could have used Kyle’s powers? Laamy almost seems a little surprised that a “creature” such as Duncan was able to do it.

    • Sapfo

      Dont forget trust.

      • Holly

        Yes Lust and Trust.

        Plus, maybe also he’s surprised because Duncan’s powers are not magic based. So on top of harnessing Kyle’s lust and making him trust him, this non-music user preformed some hardcore magic.

      • Yes, but he used lust to gain that trust. It just seems that he seemed a little surprised that the “creature” had done it at all.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Yes – the trust was needed for the spell to work, according to Anni.

  • Holly

    Well recording starts in about 6 hours. And i need to shower, eat, dress, and walk 30 minutes to get there. Plus makeup. And I’m FINALLY feeling sleepy.

    So the question is whether to just hang out for the next few hours here in the comments, or to try to get a nap in…

    • Get yourself a nap. Eye circles are hell….er awful

      • Holly

        UGH eye circles for my first recording. Yeah. I will lay down for 3 hours which gives me 3 hours to do the rest. Night all

        • Night!

          • Holly

            *makes angry grumbly noises and collapses*

          • You can do eeet!

          • Holly

            The damn building was locked. We couldn’t get in. Most of the cast just had to leave. We got lunch. I am PISSED. The director told us that if we can’t get in tomorrow he’ll just cancel the recording and reschedule for two weeks from now. (This coming weekend is Thanksgiving in Canada)

            I am tired and cranky. But I’m going to stay awake because it’s after 5pm now, so if I stay up maybe I can fix my sleep. Super grumpy now.

          • Oooh, sorry to hear that. That’s just crap. Someone needs to be punched.

          • Holly

            My vote is for the campus facilities people. I’m trying to figure out when I should go to sleep…

            also, I really hope we record tomorrow.

          • I’d hit the sack (ha!) maybe 8 (your time)? That way you don’t have that long to stay up and it’s after dark and well it seems a good time. 🙂

          • Holly

            Mmm that sounds good. I’ll probably wake up at like 4am, but that’s okay. It’s more normal than getting up at 4pm. ^_^

          • Yes, yes it is.

          • Holly

            Official word from my director says that we do NOT have the location for tomorrow. So we will be filming on our reshoot day (Wednesday) HOPEFULLY!!!

          • Fingers crossed!

        • xLizardx

          What are you recording? 🙂

          • Holly

            Web Series.It’s a murder mystery. I am exhausted. I hate my sleep pattern. >_<

    • Sapfo

      Take a nap, get some sleep, the body needs it.´even if the mind wants to go on.

  • Auugh, poor Kyle. :(((

  • Fakesubmite

    Kyle go to your happy place.
    And believe you take it.
    BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SpookyDomme

    I get the feeling someone’s going to try to make a deal. Hopefully this will not involve Kyle being used as barter.

    Also, “small bit of flesh?” Hehehe. Zing.

  • vessto

    Gah, poor Kyle!!! Such a horror couldn’t leave his mind unaffected.:( This will change him forever but I hope only in a good direction.

    Hm, in Laampros’ opinion Kyle made Anni weak?? For real?

    I wonder, if Laampros says he’d kill Kyle, if Anni be against it?

    And finally, omg, I love the fanart!! Chibi Anni and Kyle, so sweet!!!! WarGoddess, you are goddess!

    • Klaus

      It was Duncan that exploited Kyle’s lust. Kyle is the one that was weakened.

      • Holly

        Even if he was exploited, I don’t think Laampros is calling Kyle weak. I feel like all his disdain is for Anni, and Kyle is just fun to play with.

        • vessto

          Yup, his disdain is for Anni definitely and Kyle is even under the radar of his mocks. He’s just a flesh toy.

          • Holly

            “Flesh toy”… That either sounds delicious or gross. It depends on so many factors.

          • vessto

            I meant it in the most delicious way.;)

            And Laampros is delicious too.:) Like a huge cinnamon gingerbread man.:D

          • Holly

            …. Were you in the comments the day I told everyone about the book “More Than A Man?” O_o

          • vessto

            No, I’d definitely reply abt a book.:) But I read a cinnamon cookies recipe among the comments and gingerbread mentioned.

            I usually rate up all comments and read them “diagonally” so maybe I read it with me peripheral eyesight.

          • Holly

            Oh well “More Than a Man” is a novella. There is a place called the Manporium that allows you to make yourself a perfect mate. He will be human, just genetically engineered. The story is about a woman who makes her third husband (unheard of, but the other two died) and accidentally drops her christmas shopping list and a gingerbread cookie recipe in with her specifications.

            So her husband, on top of all she asked for, has tentacles, is warm to the touch, smells and tastes like gingerbread, has kisses like cinnamon candy, and a few other things. It’s… an interesting read.

          • vessto

            OMG, sweet!!! Only one negative – it is MF.:p If I found such MM book…… *sighs* The plot is interesting and kinda reminds me of The Fly where a fly accidentally went into the teleportiation machine.

            I’d love to love such a man, who even can be eaten after the *coughs* and among the “few other things” you mean also the exciting taste when *coughs coughs* is doing.XD

          • Holly

            Yeah, THAT tastes like frosting. ;D

            The only MF stuff I consume is novels. I prefer MM in comics and such and don’t really go for live action stuff. I have NEVER seen a live action thing before. Mostly because women disgust me. Well just their lady parts. Which, since I’m a woman, people thinks mean I’m self hating. But there is nothing wrong with my privates, since they are mine. I have a few male friends who understand. Girls don’t get it.

            One friend called me a gay man in a woman’s body, and I was like “Naw, there are so many reasons why that doesn’t work.” Sorry for rambling.

            I wonder if someone made an MM version of the story if the author would sue for intellectual theft, or copyright infringement.

          • vessto

            Yup, absolutely same version would be like a steal. But there are so much similar stories in today’s ocean of Romance ebooks so probably there are similar MM plots too.:)

            I don’t watch MF either. Not that I hate any parts (I think that in any way I get to hate women’s parts that would make me a homophobe, just feel it like that). I just find MF action plain and lack of sparks. Especially if the long battles between the sexes are involved. Why people concentrate of what is not compatible instead of cherishing what connects them. For me heterosexuality in entertainment lacks of any spirit and if I could choose I’d be a Lesbian. Now I’m doomed to be single because I don’t wanna be in the next plain spectacle.

          • Holly

            I don’t mind seeing girls kiss or anything like that. It doesn’t bug me, nor does it do anything for me. But I really am disgusted by other women’s lady parts. It’s something i don’t normally admit, but sometimes I need to. It’s not that I mind looking at tasteful nudes or anything, I find many women beautiful. but something about that part literally turns my stomach.

            I find that het erotica can be pretty entertaining if you find the right author. but that’s just me personally.

          • Adam Black

            Holly, your comment reminded me of a new Achewood

            http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=10042013.

            ( No, I personally Don’t agree with “Nice Pete” . It’s funnier if you know the characters. Nice Pete is less nice than Duncan. )

          • Steven Klimecky

            Interesting perspective. I don’t watch or go in for MF either, but for different and widely-ranging reasons. It sure is hard to avoid these days though, esp. on cable!!!

      • vessto

        And the piece of flesh that weakened him was Duncan’s *coughs* thing? *smirks*

        • Klaus

          I think it was Kyle’s. Thinking with the wrong head.

          • vessto

            Pffff, sure!;) Males have that habit.XD

      • Steven Klimecky

        Give Kyle a break. If you couldn’t even masturbate since you reached adolescence until you were 18 or older (put yourself in that situation kiddo – I’m sure you might be feeling a pretty strong “urge” by that time) , and if you were offered a chance at doing something with someone you found reasonably attractive and who might just be the only person you might be ABLE to do anything with without killing someone (and that offer might be your one and only chance to finally have a sexual experience with someone to completion) then I don’t think we could or should be too critical of Kyle and the choice he made, esp. given so many promises and assurances.

        • Klaus

          I think the demon is just teasing Duncan. Being strong means so much to him, so the demon points out how weak humans are.

        • Klaus

          It is the demon who is calling Kyle weak, not I.

          • Steven Klimecky

            It is not the fault of a human that a human was born into the “human condition”, with all of a human’s physical and emotional frailties and needs and yearnings and urges. My life would probably have been sooooo much easier and I could have ended up doing great and splendid things with my time and life in general if I would have been lucky enough to not have ever been plagued by a sex drive.

          • SofiaT

            Steven, Klaus did not accuse Kyle of weakness, he merely explained that was the demon’s point of view because the original commenter thought he meant Duncan.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, my comment was not necessarily directed AT Klaus, but to the notion, on the Demon’s part, that Kyle was weak due to his urges, etc. I think Kyle was damn strong (maybe to superhero or heroic proportions) to be able to resist them over all those years. If I had not even been able to masturbate between the ages of 12 and 19 – or other times since (there are some of us who don’t see a lot of real-life “action”), then I would have gone insane long time ago dealing with the horrendous stress of sexual urges and desire but with no outlet.

    • WarGoddess

      Thank you very much! 😀

  • ཟློད་

    Talk about “piercing the wall of blood and pain”…!

  • ཟློད་

    For when Kyle regains his voice:
    “So, Laampros…do you work out?”
    “Whose side are you on, Obama or the Republicans?”
    “I’ve always felt Spiritual But Not Religious, but now I’m starting to question my beliefs. Does that make any sense? What’s it like being a Buddhist?”

    • Holly

      Why woud Laampros know what being a Buddhist is like?! O_o

      • ཟློད་

        Hey, the Tibetans have a lot of Buddhas who look like that!

        • Adam Black

          wrathful deities ( imported from Bon )
          they perform a similar function as gargoyles— scaring away bad spirits.

    • But which sect of Buddhism. There are a bunch.

  • Livia

    Is Kyle gonna get raped by Laampros??

    • SofiaT

      No 🙂

    • Sapfo

      no

    • Cydney Sabin

      I’m guessing no. He might get close, but something will happen at the last second. Just my opinion.

      • Steven Klimecky

        There can be a lot of sexual violation, short of genital penetration, that I would still put in that category. If someone that I couldn’t stand (physically or otherwise), or had no sexual or erotic interest in (say, in my case, a woman), bound me naked, then got naked too, then proceeded to fondle me and attempted to jack me off, I’d still feel as if I were raped.

    • Holly

      No, Trust Alex.

    • vessto

      I think no. What I wish is Anni to be raped by Laampros. But this won’t happen either. *is sad*

      • Holly

        aww no one deserves that…

        • vessto

          Yes, of course. This is one of the most terrible things in rl, I have been attacked two times, thankfully I escaped both times. But in manga and comics rape is like not so denounced plot and even has its fans too. I think this is because rl is very different from the fantasy world.

          • Holly

            I never approve of non-con. There is a really good story I read about non-con that I felt weird about. I mean it’s really well done, but the whole thing made me feel squicky.

            Dub-con is different in literature though…

      • Steven Klimecky

        Well, I’m not into anyone getting raped, but after what he’s done so far, that would at least be preferable than it happening to Kyle – but it shouldn’t have to happen to anyone.

      • Livia

        ooo…. i like your way of thinking too. Revenge is SWEET! if Anni gets raped.

  • Cid Highwind

    Bwahaha >3 Demon x human relations? Bring it.

  • Perverzak

    well dont he seem interested xD

  • streetwalkersan

    “Such a small bit of flesh,” huh, Kyle? Poor boy. But fortunately size isn’t everything, it’s all about how you use it. RIGHT?!?

    • Holly

      I think one must also take perspective into the matter. Laampros is MUCH larger in height and stature, so by comparison a LOT of things are going to look small.

    • Adam Black

      irish curse

  • SixJaybirds

    This comic is so not turning out as I expected it to. Not at all.
    Applause to you Alex for writing the least predictable comic ever!

  • My mind going somewhere 😀 Is that Big Red Evil going to Rape,my pure(?) cutie Kyle? 🙁

    • Holly

      No, Alex will never allow his characters to get Raped. He Word Of God’d that a while ago. No need to worry.

      • ཟློད་

        But they may be Touched in Inappropriate Ways.

        • Steven Klimecky

          And non-consensually, while bound naked.

          • Adam Black

            Kyle will likely get touched a lot more, while in hell and bound.

            get used to it now

          • Steven Klimecky

            Sorry, but “virtual” down-vote on that comment.

          • Adam Black

            I’m calling it like I see it.
            You”l enjoy the comic more if you stop viewing it as a romance comic for now, and as a hero comic where the hero is being tested in the extreme.
            Try and remember he is a Hero, not just a victim.
            He is bound is hell. He can’t move. and mrely creepy things are the least that can possibly happen to him.

            If you mentally switch gears, which i beleive is clearly represented by the plot leaving one universe for another you can enjoy it again instead of aggonizing over every more minor bad thing that happens to Kyle. You are not even giving Kyle: The Hero a chance. Start seeing him as a hero and not just a Victim.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, we already know he isn’t going to die, so no need to fear or agonize over that – so that leaves the other things to naturally agonize over (for those of us who are reflexively empathetic to these situations). And, um, he def. still a victim in any case, and I don’t doubt he has incredible potential for heroism. In fact, even if he didn’t do anything else in the future, just surviving and enduring all that is and has been happening – physically, mentally, and emotionally – is a feat of heroic proportions. Thus, Kyle is, in my book, already a hero even now. Enduring various types of suffering is a heroic act that many don’t think about.

      • I HOPE!!!

  • DarkFeanix21

    Bad Laampros! No touching the boy! This whole experience is going to be traumatising enough for him as it is.

    Also, Duncan is still crouched down, which I find interesting. Is it fear, respect, or some plot that keeps him from standing? I somehow doubt it’s fear…

    • Holly

      I think he just doesn’t want to appear disrespectful to Laampros. Pissing off the Demon probably won’t get him whatever he wants…

      • Sapfo

        Holly, what are you doing, you where suppose to be taking a nap.
        You are going to piss of Laampros with this disrespect for your bodys needs 😉

        • Holly

          I did. that was over four hours ago. I now have 75 minutes to get read before filming. I was eating breakfast. Froot Loops are respecting ones body.

          • Sapfo

            I am so proud of you that I am not even going to ask how much suger there is in Froot loops ^_^
            I guess I should say break a leg or something, but you probably know more about that stuff then I do. Have a good day.

          • ཟློད་

            There is a reason that it is spelled “Froot” instead of “Fruit.” 41 % sugar, lots of transfats in the form of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil…
            Hey–according to Wikipedia, it’s Archie Bunker’s favorite cereal!

          • Holly

            If you would like to send me money so that I can buy fresh fruit, breakfast meats, potatoes, and eggs to have a balanced breakfast then yay. Otherwise I have Mango Juice and Froot Loops for breakfast.

            I know it’s bad for me, but a family sized box cost me 4 dollars on sale.

          • Oatmeal! That’s pretty cheap (not the packets) and better for you.

          • Holly

            …I hate oatmeal. :C

          • Aww, even with brown sugar?

          • SofiaT

            honey and cinnamon!!! 🙂

          • Would you believe I get a rash from honey? Which sucks cause I like honey. I may put some cinnamon in my next bowl though, that sounds good.

          • Holly

            Yes. I think it’s the consistency. I love oats, hate oatmeal.

            Technically, I could switch to a better cold cereal but they make the milk taste badly.

          • True. Most “healthy” cereals are kinda crap tasting and expensive.

            Well it was worth a shot. Mouth feel is why I prefer the traditional oats to quick oats.

          • Holly

            Yeah I might have to try old fashioned oats sometime, instead of instant.

          • It’s better for you too. And the old fashioned oats remain oats. And with a touch of brown sugar and butter. or the honey and cinnamon, it’s pretty tasty.

            How expensive are eggs up yonder?

          • Holly

            I have no idea. I haven’t bought eggs in forever. Why?

          • Cause I was going to say you should get yourself some if they aren’t too expensive. That is unless you don’t like eggs then never mind. 🙂 And now I will take off my mom hat. 😀

            Hey, I never knew I had a mom hat.

          • Holly

            I only get MAYBE 20 dollars a week for food.

          • Ouch, that’s pretty tight. Do what you gotta do to survive, Ms Holly. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            I feel with you.
            Been there, done it and could not afford t-shirt.

          • Holly

            Job having will be soon I hope.

          • SofiaT

            Peanutbutter (or tahini) & honey sandwiches with a glass of milk. They’re good for you, they’re delicious and they don’t cost much to make 🙂

          • Holly

            Peanut Butter sandwiches and Milk are lunch. ^_^

    • Steven Klimecky

      “No touching … for him as it is.” My sentiments exactly.

    • vessto

      He pretends to show deep respect (and obedience) to the Great Laampros.

  • this “small bit of flesh” seems to be holding your attention, guv’nah!

  • Nate

    Call me a sap, but I still think Duncan is headed for a face turn. Sooner or later, he’s going to have to make a choice between Kyle and power, and I don’t think he’ll be able to choose the latter.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Nice but highly wishful thought.

      • Nate

        Oh, definitely. But I’m still thinking it.

  • Cman65

    Who you calling “SMALL” mate?

    • ཟློད་

      “And his eyes are tiny as well!”

  • Dracon Ra

    I can’t help it, that “small bit of flesh” remark makes me think he might look
    like Alan Rickman in Dogma, careful, highly disturbing image following 😉

    http://youtu.be/vnyo5T32LKk

  • ཟློད་

    If you look carefully at the art, you can see that Laampros was originally drawn holding his large erect phallus, which has hand curls around in panels 2, 3, and 5.
    (That’s not it dangling by his leg in panel 2–it would have been staring straight at us, a red circle against the shadowy background.)
    Interestingly, no barbed tail or cloven hooves. Also, his sneer reminds me a bit of Conan the Barbarian.

    • Tina

      Well now, that’s interesting. Actually if you look even closer into the shadow of panel three you can just make out the shape of said erect penis. Oh dear

      • vessto

        OMG, people!!!!!!XD XD

        *goes to see better*

        • Holly

          I CANNOT see this. at all…

      • I don’t see anything. 🙁 🙁 Can someone upload with it circled?

        • vessto

          Yes, please!!! Upload it circled!

          • Gosh, you were quick off the mark there! That was within a minute of my hitting ‘post’!

          • vessto

            I examine the most important comments’ development (like: the ones that contains important keywords like “penis”) :p

          • How can I fault such priorities?

          • Tina

            Erm… how should I do that?

      • Holly

        I don’t see it…

      • SofiaT

        I’m pretty sure that’s the outline of his six pack.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Actually, in panel two it looks like there’s a hint of something dangling between his legs. I do not see anything like the “royal scepter” in either of his hands in any of those panels, ‘though.

      • All these comments remind me of the people on ghost hunting shows saying “Look! A shadowy figure! It must be the Confederate soldier that haunts this hotel! Also, if you look in the shadows of his crotch, you can almost see his penis!”

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          Well, it would be odd if there wasn’t something dangling between his legs.

    • Heh.
      Allow me to do a little “word of God” from the penciller, if I may— there’s never been an erect demon penis drawn on this page. Our new pal Laampros just likes to talk with his hands. His big, scary clawed hands.
      But, please don’t let that stop you guys from searching in those dark scary shadows covering his body. One never knows what might turn up! 🙂

      • Tina

        Sure doesn’t look that way. Bet you’re the new Disney and hiding penises everywhere

        • 🙂

        • SofiaT

          I think there’s a bit of wishful thinking in there.

          Although why would anyone wish for a 12foot tall and potentially very dangerous demon to be proportionately endowed next to a tied-up Kyle, is beyond me 😛

      • Steven Klimecky

        Ah – just as I thought.

      • Adam Black

        I notice the qualifier “erect”.

        Any comment on the long shadow in panel 2?

    • Steven Klimecky

      Highly skeptical of all that here.

  • vessto

    Panel 1, so it seems Laampros not only knew but allowed (agreed) Anni to call him. What if he didn’t agree and yet Anni did the spell? Anni couldn’t know if the great Demon will want to see him. So if Laampros did appear and spell was made then the poor Kyle would be left in this endless fire trap?

    • Klaus

      “You should have been told to expect me.” The meeting has been arranged beforehand.

      • vessto

        I meant that Anni wasn’t sure if Laampros is agreed to meet him. It was like a shot in the dark.

    • bronakopdin

      well maybe he got a notification from Laampros personel that the requested appointment will be held

  • vessto

    I noticed it of course!!! *good shaped male asses usually are always in her sight*

    Lol, that is why I love it, I love to be surprised (even with Dark Side type of development (aka betrayal)).

  • Tina

    So I go to bed an come back to 400 comments *rubs eyes* anyone remember the days when the comics got at most a hundred comments per page? XDDD

  • Tragically_Unhip

    One: The Annihilator is out of his mind.
    Two: Laampros is terrifying and totally amazing.
    Three: Kyle will never, ever, ever have the capcity to perform sexually ever again. In fact, his genitals might be shriveling up and falling off at this very moment. Poor kid.

    • Chibi

      seriously soooo depressing >> I mean he already had one bad experience and now this….

      • Steven Klimecky

        TOTALLY.

        • Chibi

          It’s like COME ON! NOT COOL

      • Miss Quinn

        I think this still technically qualifies as the same experience.

    • ཟློད་

      On the other hand, he might ask his next lover to tie him up and wear horns.

      • Steven Klimecky

        So easy for everyone to make so light of this situation :/

        • Miss Quinn

          Oh come on, you have to admit that was funny.

          • Lilka Lilianna

            No, there is absolutely nothing funny about this situation.

          • Miss Quinn

            The comment, not the potential demon-rape.

    • Steven Klimecky

      I might be tending to agree with you that such could be a very real possibility or problem or outcome from enduring such events and circumstances, but somehow I don’t think it is Alex’s intent to have Kyle “broken” in that manner, or others that may have been intimated.

  • KryX

    “…such a small bit of flesh…” Hasn’t Laampros ever heard that more than a mouthful is a waste?

    • Steven Klimecky

      Nice to hear someone voice that sentiment.

  • Frater Gymnos

    is Kyle still having that orgasm? Jesus! Sign me up!

    • vessto

      Yeah… XD

    • Klaus

      Not only may Kyle be very reluctant to have sex again after this betrayal, when he does take the leap, he is likely to be sorely disappointed. It will not be the same without the spell.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Good points.

  • Frater Gymnos

    His beautiful ass will never have sex again, but for now it’s pretty intriguing.

    • vessto

      it will have sex again, I’m sure!!! And that time Duncan will be really honest!

    • Steven Klimecky

      If we are talking about Kyle’s ass, that possibility is so wrong to even think about. Actually, his ASS hasn’t even had sex once, so the word “again” is out of place. Also, we don’t even know if Kyle is comfortable with the idea of anal sex yet, or at all. Furthermore, we don’t know Kyle’s positional or sexual conformational preferences (if he has formulated any yet). For all we know, Kyle might be an exclusive TOP for anal. Wouldn’t that be an interesting reversal for somewhere down the road – Kyle giving it to Duncan in the rear.

      • Frater Gymnos

        metonymy.

      • Miss Quinn

        Thank you for that image. You have just made everything wonderful forever.

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild
    • SofiaT

      Upvote because Gargoyles.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Sad….I was hoping he would go after Anni first then set Kyle free! 🙁

    • vessto

      He’s evil, won’t do that.:(

  • Rae Goldberg

    O.o is Kyle gonna get raped by a demon?… or is Duncan gonna stop it…. or is sumtin else gonna happen…. DAMMIT ALEX!!! YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO TORTURE A GIRL!!!!!!

    • Ali

      I lost a lot of faith in Duncan with the latest turn of events. I would not be able to forgive him at all if he let that demon hurt Kyle.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Amen to that!

      • Rae Goldberg

        here here

  • Ronny Borrelli

    gotta say, a LITTLE turned on by the sexual possibilities here! 😉

    • vessto

      My most desirable – a threesome in which Anni is sandwiched while takes Kyle and is taken by Laampros. Another good threesome option – double pen. of Kyle by the two evil ones.

      • Klaus

        Does Laampros even have a penis? It does not look like it.

        • Gaz Hawkins

          it’s those damn flames and shadows!!!! so hope there is a XXX version of this comic 🙂

          • Klaus

            Maybe we can get a romance card of Laampros with volume 2 of the paper version of the comic.

      • ཟློད་

        More like a shish kabob than a sandwich!

      • Steven Klimecky

        Double penetration of poor Kyle’s still-virginal back-door – Seriously??? I may have my share of deviant erotic interests, but that seems WAY extreme right now – like super-duper-hyper-rape.

        • Miss Quinn

          Also painful. Seriously.

      • Ronny Borrelli

        I like your second scenario

  • bronakopdin

    yes, I second that Anni is probably WEAK about Kyle :p

    • Gaz Hawkins

      reminds me of that saying “a blow job makes your day, anal sex makes your (w)hole weak” LOL

      • ཟློད་

        But Anni’s hole is strong–immensely strong. As Eddie Murphy once said of Mr. T, he could probably clench his butt-cheeks and rip Kyle’s (or Laampros’s) dick off.

  • I’m trying to figure out how that whole demon-sex thing would work. His tail would keep getting in the way, I think.

    • vessto

      Maybe his *coughs* is much more longer that we think?

    • Tina

      I don’t think think he has a tail *glances at previous page* nope

    • Gaz Hawkins

      you not heard of “tentacle sex” then? LOL

    • Holly

      He has yet to exhibit a tail.

    • ཟློད་

      Dogs find a way to make it work…

    • Miss Quinn

      Maybe he doesn’t have a penis and his tail will do all the work?

  • Gaz Hawkins

    I can so hear Kyle shouting “hey, who you calling small? I’ve just been used to open this god dammed portal!!!” LOL

  • Gaz Hawkins

    what?, where?, who? phallus erected? I’m not seeing this….. damn!!! LOL

    • Tina

      I’m trying to upload a picture but I can’t figure out without using FB (which would friends and family would question severely)

      • Gaz Hawkins

        OK that is NOT his di..er…. phallus – look at the next panel – it clearly shows a “bead” and the end of his beard – if it were, his…er.. phallus would be very, very thin!!!! (I also zoomed in on panel 2 to 400% to make sure!!)

        • SofiaT

          I don’t think she’s referring to the end of his beard, that’s some distance from his body -athough I could be wrong of course. I think she’s referring to the shading on his abdomen. If you squint, you can see something that vaguely resembles a.. er, “mushroom”. But to me it seems to be just the outline of his six pack.

          • Denise Cruz

            XDD ‘Mushroom’ was the best of the evening! XD

          • Tina

            Or that could be it. They need to work on shading lol

          • SofiaT

            Make it darker or less dark? 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            They are so freaking awesome working on this shading art! Always perfect! It blows my mind, everytime!! 😀

          • Tina

            Lol lemme rephrase that then, they need to work on shading so not to send the commenters spiralling into madness trying to figure out if there’s a penis or not. *nods nods*

          • Denise Cruz

            LOL They are probably laughing at it! Such commotion about Laampy’s… er… private area?!
            (I almost wrote ‘mushroom’ just like Sofia did before… lol)

          • Steven Klimecky

            Gosh – doesn’t everyone just seem to be so obsessed about potential demon-penises – as if it’s a concept so new and fascinating and endlessly possibly awe-inspiring. I’m kinda over it – no “big” deal for me regarding that IF it’s not going to be touching Kyle in any way. I’m more fascinated by the detail that the artists still managed to portray of Kyle’s sexy little tufts of red armpit fur. Although I am left wondering, regarding Kyle’s male member – is it still erect and flaming as it was so obviously in previous pages? It would give me some comfort to know that it is still hidden in a swath of flames, so neither Duncan nor Demon can really see it directly, and thus give me a sense that Kyle is, in some way, where it most counts, “clothed”, in a manner of speaking, with a “loin cloth” of his fire. That would give him some bit of dignity at least, and I wouldn’t feel QUITE as badly for him, knowing (and empathizing) that he is so painfully shy.

          • Adam Black

            Ah, you mean HP Lovecraft’s lost work: the Mushroom of Madness.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Ha! (Crack of a grin from that one as well.)

          • Gaz Hawkins

            I don’t see a penis, it’s either dark shadows or “fur”. guessing it’s just wishful thinking LOL

          • SofiaT

            Ha, that’s what I said!

            This whole “find the penis” thread reminds me of a mass Rorschach test. 🙂

      • Holly

        tinypic.com

    • Hesthea

      Panel 2… though i still think its his beard with a bead in it… everyone is seeing erected phallus everywhere, except me. xD *searching for my glasses*

      • Denise Cruz

        So, I’m as blind as you are! XDD

        • Hesthea

          Good to know i’m not alone! *highfive Denise* ;D

          • Denise Cruz

            HIghfive,girl! 😀

      • Tina

        “My glasses! My glasses! I can’t see anything without my glasses!” -Velma

      • Steven Klimecky

        The only thing I see that could possibly be a phallus is what appears to otherwise be a bit of a “shaded” (i.e. less bright than others) highlight of Laampros’ right inner thigh in panel two – or, more technically, his right vastus medialis muscle.

      • SofiaT

        Not everyone! 🙂

  • Gaz Hawkins

    better yet, bends duncan over and has his way with him LOL

  • Um…speechless.

    • Hesthea

      I’ll give you a hand in that matter:
      MOAR! We want MOARRRRR! xD

      I think that we are Alex guinea pigs. By torturing us he will get some new ideas regarding Kyle reactions to all this… or maybe not! x)

      • Ali

        We like it so we want more!

      • SofiaT

        Alex has already written all 5 chapters so I doubt he uses us as guinea pigs… although I’m sure he enjoyes watching us squirm. He’s an evil genius after all.

        And yes! We do want moarrrrr! 😀

  • Denise Cruz

    What would this life be if we all thought the same way?! Nothing funny, at all!! ^v^

  • Tina

    Got it! Though looking at it more I guess it could be his abs but I’m still holding firm the artists are having a bit of fun with us (and censorship) http://tinypic.com/r/xbbgb8/5

    • Holly

      mmm maybe….

  • Dracon Ra

    I
    say the reason is fear. You look closely at page 32, you can still see the
    bullied, little boy, panicking he could lose his strength and yet again, become
    a victim himself.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Interesting notion.

  • TheManBehindTheCurtain

    Demons have hairy chests?……..Who knew?? (looks so much like Anni’s chest)
    And he seems pretty interested in hairless chested Kyle. But I doubt he’s going to do anything to him. Obviously the demon cannnot open a way to our world (or why wait so long to enjoy …mortal pleasures) so Anni needs him to get back.
    I think Kyle is going to see Anni having sex with the demon as the price to be paid to get something (like his and PP youth back). Kyle is just going to have a ring side seat to this show. And an educational one at that.

  • Tina

    All silliness aside, I just noticed an interesting contrast to Duncan’s monologue and Lampy’s monologue. Duncan talked about letting nothing make him weak and yet here Lampy is basically saying he is weak for using Kyle. I’m rather curious how Duncan will react to this.

    • Holly

      OOO IRONIC!

    • SofiaT

      I think he’s mostly talking about Kyle being weak for allowing his powers to be thus used under the influence of lust. Any jab towards Duncan seems more general as in “you all” = mankind. And Duncan is part of the mankind. We think.

      But you’re right, it is interesting, that both Laampros and Duncan spoke of the weakness that comes with intimacy. The difference is that Laampros refers to the weakness of the flesh while Duncan was talking about sentiments making one weak.

      • Tina

        I think that would be very interesting if Kyle was Duncan’s weakness

        • SofiaT

          I believe he is, but not in the way Duncan thinks.

          While it’s probably too early for Duncan to start taking the long road to redemption, I would really like to see him do something out of plan, something that will suprise even himself when it comes to Kyle.

          He would most likely consider any deviation from the plan “a weakness”.

          • Tina

            I think it’d be a long time before he’d ever admit to himself and even longer before he’d admit it to Kyle.

          • SofiaT

            Agreed. Although his “admission” would have to be an action, not words -we’ve had enough talking from him already. And it would be done despite his logic about “weakness” coming from sentiments, which would make make him very, very uncomfortable. Mwa ha ha.

          • Tina

            Yup. Like that hug he gave Kyle after saving his life from the explosion. I still like to believe that was a genuine slip of emotion. Might be put down to shock but still it had to come from somewhere.

      • I think Laampros’ speech is very loaded with “You are not in charge here” subtext, which is interesting because Duncan’s monologue at the warehouse was all about “I am in charge here.” Laampros doesn’t answer with “Yes, I was told you were coming.” but rather “There is nothing that happens here without my allowing it.”

        Instead of telling Duncan that lust/flesh makes “you” weak, he choses to say “you all.” He’s not just telling Duncan that he is weaker than he sees himself, but also is implying that he isn’t any more special, strong, or exceptional than other humans would be in Laampros’ domain.

        • SofiaT

          Very good points, all of them. We were discussing (way) below that this whole page seems like Laampros putting Duncan back into his place.

          • I’ll have to scroll even further! It sure is hard to keep up with all the comments – mainly because they’re very insightful and funny for the most part so I have to read them all.

  • Tragically_Unhip

    Okay, I sincerely thought everyone was joking about the: “Is that
    Laampros’ penis in panel three?!” thing, but it seems like this is a legitimate
    question. It’s his abs, I can assure you. For anyone who is curious,
    I’ve lightened the artwork. I give you the following:

    http://tinyurl.com/njtkboq

    And for the record, I lightened the whole page. Nar dick to be found, ladies and gents.

    • SofiaT

      I’m not even sure if Laampros has a penis, erect or otherwise.

      He seems to consider anything sexual to be a weakness that belongs in the realm of men anyway, so I’m 90% sure he’s just playing with both Kyle and Duncan at the moment.

      • ཟློད་

        He might have two penes. It is also possible that they are invisible.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Just likes snakes – there are two “hemipenes” – one on each side, and they are retractable/”hidden” when not in use – one is utilized until it is either damaged or worn out, then the snake switches to the other “back-up” penis.

          • And one of them is a seven pronged six foot pitchfork. 🙂

          • Miss Quinn

            Why exactly are we trying to figure out if the demon has a retractable pitchfork shaped penis?

            Wait, nevermind. Just answered my own question.

          • All the better to poke Duncan with…

          • Miss Quinn

            I thought he was gonna poke Kyle. Is this just gonna turn into a demon pitchfork penis pokefest?

          • Wellllll…we on Team Pitchfork do tend to prefer it that it is us doing the poking. But we’re not averse to a demon pitchfork penis pokefest at all, providing Duncan is the pokee and Kyle stays poke free.

          • oh…that sounds potentially hot~ that or just plain traumatizing 😛

          • Steven Klimecky

            Interestingly, the hemipenes of many snake species do in fact have all kinds of little spikes and spines and prongs covering their surface, to help hold them inside the female’s tract. However, due to this, sometimes they get stuck and/or it makes it more difficult to pull out, and this often leads to tearing or, in some cases, the whole hemipenis being torn off as the male tries to detach from the female. That is one reason why there are 2 – so if one gets worn and damaged or is torn off, there is still another that can be used for later matings.

          • vessto

            Then Laampros is multipenes.

      • Amanda

        Maybe its detachable, and he keeps a variety of sizes stored for such occasions a nubile young virgin is presented.

        • Like a more adult and just as scary version of Mombi in Return to Oz.

    • Every page of this comic in which penis might be seen has been consciously drawn and colored to not show penis. Beats me why people would conclude that these pages would be different. I’ll just assume that people are being silly about it on purpose.

  • Tragically_Unhip

    Just for the record, I wasn’t seeing anyone’s penis anywhere. I meant that this level of betrayal and such a nightmarish horrorshow would be so traumatic as to make it impossible for Kyle to ever have sex again. And also that his man parts might be falling off so they can flee the scene in terror.

    • Hesthea

      I know you didn’t and i understood what you initially wrote. i only mentioned that some users did and by their descriptions it seems that it will be kind of painful if Laamos gets what he (seems to) want. 😉

    • Steven Klimecky

      Yeah – that is the type of thing I still worry about though in any case – it is certainly very well possible for such events to have such effects on someone!

  • ཟློད་

    If someone claims to be rich (but is not), and on that basis seduces another, does that count as rape?

    • Steven Klimecky

      Ummmm ….see my early comments to this page.

  • Soubi

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. NO. NO. NO.

    • Soubi

      I hope his “it’s been so long” speech means he can’t do the do. Because, no. Just, no.

      • Denise Cruz

        Right there with you!
        Definitely NO!

        • Miss Quinn

          Maybe he just wants to eat Kyle, not rape him. (Wait, is that better? Cause If I had a choice, I’d rather be eaten by the giant flaming demon)

          • vessto

            OMG, noooooooooo!

          • Denise Cruz

            Well… I think it would be ALMOST the same… What makes it sound a little less bad (NOt better, just LESS BAD), is the fact that after being eaten, the person wouldn’t have to live with that, remembering that, feeling the consequences of that…

            At least, that’s what I think . 🙂

          • Miss Quinn

            My thinking too.

        • Soubi

          -holds onto you until the next update-

          • Denise Cruz

            🙂

    • Adam Black

      is that a meme?

      • kinda like the one where the ostrich is running from the cheetah saying shitshitshitshitshitshit?

        • Adam Black

          huh?

          i asked because sofia said that many no’s to me. I thought it might be a thing

          • Ah, my mistake, never mind. But there has been that picture I described going about on FB. So when you asked… yeah never mind.

          • Adam Black

            oh

          • So when you asked about a meme… the no no no no no reminded me of this

            http://i.imgur.com/EfpHRLt.png

          • SofiaT

            Well, I was paralysed with terror in the thought of you and my mother being in the same chat-room. And Subi (I assume) is terrified that a big red demon is about to attack Kyle.

            You have to admit a string of no’s is not that bad a reaction for either of us 😛

      • kinda like the one where the ostrich is running from the cheetah saying shitshitshitshitshitshit?

  • (actually.
    no lie..

    ..but i’d totally “do it” with Old Lampy.

    do “it” with a can of whup ass if he hurts my fiery little sparkler!!)

  • Steven Klimecky

    Tend to agree with you on most of all that!!! Except that Kyle did consent to go to bed with Duncan (though, as you rightly mention, under false pretenses, which is vile enough – especially for someone using a naive, innocent like Kyle and during his first experience with human intimacy for ulterior motives, etc.) – but he did not consent to anything that followed once that spell was cast and those magical chains bound him. He has been and is still being used sexually against his will, just from the nature of the situation and his bondage predicament.

    • Tina

      He did consent yes however… he was still getting into bed with a villain. He knew this right from the get go. So while Duncan did was down right wrong, Kyle has to share a little of the blame for being naive.

      • He was a vulnerable child who was taken advantage of. His ability to see Duncan was grooming him didn’t suddenly pop into existence the second he turned 18.

        • Steven Klimecky

          And, c’mon guys, if you were holding out on ANY sort of sexual release since the first time you tried to masturbate (or at least the first time you had an orgasm I should say) – which in this case was probably at least 5 or 6 years (no masturbation, etc.!!), and suddenly you are presented with a viable opportunity with the one person you might be able to do it with and not destroy in the process, well, I think you would have been much more psychologically ready to accept Duncan’s promises and assurances as well and go along with it.

          • Let’s not forget how lonely Kyle has been, unable to confide in any of his friends. Duncan got him talking very easily. But Laampros wouldn’t understand loneliness.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yes – that too.

  • silibub

    I’ve been ruminating, and here are a couple shot-in-the-dark guesses, all sort of related:

    1) Since Spooky’s thing is fighting (and likely destroying) demons, Laampros will want Duncan to either kill Spooky or bring him to the demon world so Laampros can kill him in exchange for granting Duncan’s request. Even if Duncan delivers Kyle safely home, he’ll have to let his team know about the imminent threat to Spooky and how he found out.

    2) Kyle’s teammates already know he’s gay — or at least some of them do, most likely Commander because of her leadership role and telepathy, and Spooky and Fluke because they’re Kyle’s best friends. Kyle just doesn’t want the general public to find out so as not to bring more controversy down on his team.

    3) Kyle has been cautious enough to give his friend(s) a heads-up that he’s going out/hooking up with someone tonight, but has omitted the where (since I doubt Kyle himself knew the location of the warehouse), and the who (for obvious reasons). But if he’s gone too long, his team may be able to connect the dots — there are only so many people (men) Kyle could be with considering his fire powers — and he’ll at least be spared considerable grief and awkwardness in trying to explain who he was with when this shit went down.

    Just some ideas. I love how this story’s so open to possibilities! There will always be the option for “what if” AU’s (and believe me, once the setting and other characters are more established I plan to start cranking out fics.)

    • Tina

      A lot of people have had the idea that their Commander knows he’s gay which I actually like the idea of. It allows us to skip the whole “coming out of the closet awkwardness” cliche a lot of media has. Also number 3 would show Kyle’s not a total “love blinded” idiot.

      • Steven Klimecky

        I’ve never thought Kyle to be a “total ‘love blinded’ idiot” – AT ALL. What he did was, though overly trusting, in many ways rather natural and logical.

        • SofiaT

          Logical, no. Natural? Yes.

          We would have done the same thing if we were in his shoes. But that’s because the temptation of what Duncan was offering was too great, not because it made sense.

          Love, or the promise of love, can turn us all into blind fools -and I’m sure most of us have been there at least once in our lives. Nobody is blaming Kyle for what happened. But it was, objectively, not a logical move to make. Love has nothing to do with logic.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, I’d have to beg to differ – though I guess it depends on our definitions of “logical” and “making sense”. To consider the risks and benefits and the tradeoffs, and to make a decision based on that could be considered logical. It makes logical sense to me to take a risk and pursue a relationship with someone against certain reservations if I feel it may be the only workable choice or opportunity. In any case, I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that Kyle made his decision based on love or even the promise of love. There is no indication that Kyle was anywhere near in LOVE with Duncan, or even that he expected love to grow out of that encounter – I think that perhaps we put those expectations on the participants or the circumstances because that is what we believe will happen or hope what will happen. Often love is indeed divorced from logic, but they could be related as well in certain circumstances. Is it not logical to assume that a parent will care for a child or protect a child out of love? If one loves someone, could it not be said to be logical that the lover will wish to protect, defend or fight for the beloved? Is it not logical to expect that if you love someone, it is unlikely that you would abandon them or (willingly) betray them or cause them pain. That is one way in which we can infer that Duncan did NOT have feelings of affection for Kyle, and certainly never felt ANYTHING akin to love for him.

      • vessto

        Maybe they have a contract in the group she never to use her abilities over her squad?

    • rgleon9986

      Everyone keeps mentioning that Commander is telepathic. When did we hear that? Is that WoG or conjecture?

      • silibub

        In the beginning of Chapter 1 during the fire rescue, Commander says she used her telepathy to tell the people inside the building to stand back from the walls so Kyle can do his thing.

        • rgleon9986

          I completely forgot about that! Thanks 🙂

    • Klaus

      As for point three, Kyle’s fire powers per se do not limit his choice of boyfriend. The only way his friends would know about his loosing control during orgasm is if he has told them. I don’t think he has.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Good point mate!!

  • Steven Klimecky

    I think it’s a somewhat subdued highlight on his vastus medialis muscle.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Wow – someone else who’s feelings on the matter are similar to mine! (Although there is a little corner deep down inside me that doesn’t want to be quite that absolute, but damned if I can figure out how one COULDN’T be at this point, as you say.) I’m glad I have some additional company in those sentiments though!

  • Hours

    I smell a threeway!

  • Steven Klimecky

    Don’t feel badly – I’ve been feeling pretty much like that for a while now – and it keeps intensifying with each page recently. I’m glad to know there are more of us “out there” that have very similar thoughts and feelings on this matter and who are kind of on the brink about it all at the moment.

  • Zeruk

    My Random thoughts of Kyles future if he survives..:

    Guy: C’mon it’ll be fun!

    Kyle: I guess..

    Guy: *Touches Kyle’s butt*

    Kyle:WHOA WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

    Guy:Well thats what people ussually do before they have sex.
    .
    Kyle: SEX?! YOU SAID WE WERE JUST GONNA MAKE OUT YOU DIDN”T SAY ANYHTING ABOUT THAT!! SEX IS WHAT CREATES EXPLOSIONS FROM FIRE SENDS YOU TO DEMON WORLDS & SPAWNS DEMONS TO RAPE YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! *runs*
    Guy: ………..

    • Tina

      I’m assuming this is the future after Kyle finishes his therapy

  • Zeruk

    My Random thoughts of Kyles future if he survives..:

    Guy: C’mon it’ll be fun!

    Kyle: I guess..

    Guy: *Touches Kyle’s butt*

    Kyle:WHOA WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

    Guy:Well thats what people ussually do before they have sex.
    .
    Kyle: SEX?! YOU SAID WE WERE JUST GONNA MAKE OUT YOU DIDN”T SAY ANYHTING ABOUT THAT!! SEX IS WHAT CREATES EXPLOSIONS FROM FIRE SENDS YOU TO DEMON WORLDS & SPAWNS DEMONS TO RAPE YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! *runs*
    Guy: ………..

  • You know, I look at this page today and all I can think of is what a cute foot Kyle has in panel 2.

  • Syncx

    …….I wonder if Kyle could get pregnant if he has sex with laampros ( Satan ) ………please don’t rape Kyle :’0 , oh surprise twist laampros has more of a thing for anni , that would Serve him right

    • ཟློད་

      I don’t think that would be biologically possible. After all, the shaft would rip through his GI tract and out his esophagus, perforating his intestines, and probably knocking out some of his teeth from the inside.
      But maybe they could adopt.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Gosh, thank you for your cheerful explicit scenario!

        • ཟློད་

          Wait ’til you see my fan art. That should send you into therapy!

          • Miss Quinn

            I’ve seen vore. Nothing could be worse than that.

          • Steven Klimecky

            That doesn’t inspire in me a desire to go take a look.

      • Koda

        I legit laughed at this. Thanks. :3

        • ཟློད་

          Then you are a sick, sick person! Get help!
          😛

      • Miss Quinn

        Made. My. Night. XD

      • Syncx

        …….but what if his private is human sized ….and he’s satan not human and it wouldnt be possible to go to hell so i dont think realistic thinking applies here so I don’t think it would be a big leap for Kyle to be pregnant …..but I hope satan wont rape him

  • ཟློད་

    “The Commander.” (Sigh.) Why in God’s name didn’t they call her “the Chief”? And given her one of those Indian bonnets, like that guy from the Village People.

    • Miss Quinn

      Because her race shouldn’t define her?

    • Adam Black

      are you joking?

    • I mean, I’m assuming that you’re joking, but…
      . . .

  • davefragments

    Laampros says “THIS is what you used to pierce the PROTECTIONS around your world” and that indicates to me that Laampros sees Kyle as different from Duncan. THe straightforward explanation is that Duncan worships Laampros and Kyle does not. Another explanation is that Kyle really is different than Duncan meaning their powers originate from different sources. Maybe DUncan is a mutant. Maybe Kyle is not human. Maybe one is purely human and terrible advanced on the evolutionary scale. Or maybe one is endowed in magic.

    One thing is sure is that DUncan (who says back on p33) knows his source of power and is older than we think (IMHO)… HE says “And I am nothing if not very, very strong and I intend to stay that way” so Duncan wants power from Laampros and is willing to be his servant to gain that strength. That implies that somehow Duncan can lose his power.

    • Miss Quinn

      Maybe he’s just talking about getting old.

      • davefragments

        Sure but I”m having more fun tonight with all this speculation.

    • Klaus

      Page 32 actually. In the frame just before, he says that sentiment is a weakness.

      • davefragments

        oops. my glasses were dirty. That’s a good excuse.

    • vessto

      That’s interesting point. Probably all superheroes and supervillains retire someday. Anni found how to postpone this day and Laampros is one of the variants. Maybe he would offer him some deal at all but what would be the price. Is Kyle just the tool through which Anni pass through “the walls of blood and pain”, or he is the gift Anni would suggest to Laampros, or both??

      • davefragments

        I think Kyle is the tool and nothing more. I”m not sure about that and I’ll be interested in seeing how the story unfolds. OBviously Kyle has to get back to TYP’s and obviously Duncan and the Platinum Princess are launching something more than merely talking to a demon. I keeping my thoughts to myself on what that might be until this chapter ends.

        I have the impression that Alex has three more chapters. It seems to be three more and not just two. Three gives a chance to develop the inner stories of the young protectors a bit more.

  • ཟློད་

    How high up is Kyle? Isn’t he hovering at about the height of the bed? But then why would he be even with Laampros’s crotch in panel 5? Laampros is about twice the size of a human, so that would put Kyle a couple of meters off the ground. Maybe Laampros got down on his knees…?
    Also, why does Laampros have no eyebrows?
    (Am I over-analyzing this?)

    • TheManBehindTheCurtain

      So, Whoopie Goldberg doesn’t have eyebrows either. 😛

      • Adam Black

        Whoopie Goldberg is Laampros?

        • TheManBehindTheCurtain

          Demon maybe….

    • Klaus

      1) Kyle is lyong on the bed.
      2) Laampros is squatting.
      3) Yes.

  • Miss Quinn

    Holy shit I just realized that Laampros looks kinda like Hellboy from the movies after his horns grew out.

    • davefragments

      Hellboy’s head wasn’t on fire…
      There was a crown of fire above Hellboy’s head that indicated his royal lineage. It was subtle to see in the movie.

      • ཟློད་

        I keep thinking of Red Hulk. (With Firestorm’s hair.)

        • davefragments

          I never said he didn’t look like Hellboy. I only pointed out a detail on Hellboy that the movie used to great effect. Laampros has to ahve his own appearance and a personality that matches.

      • Miss Quinn

        I said KINDA.

  • Syncx

    Is it just me or is satan playing with Kylie’s nipple at the last panel o.o it would be kinda kinky if I weren’t thinking ” what if his nail cuts off Kyles nipple ?!?!”

    • Klaus

      Ah, so the “small piece of flesh” is a nipple.

  • ཟློད་

    Cut to Laampros on earth, at the headquarters of the Young Protectors. He wakes up, bleary-eyed, to find the corpses of the Commander, Tsunami, and Spooky sprawled on the floor, bleeding from various orifices. Since Laampros is so tall, we see only his big red legs as he walks among them.
    “Wow,” he says, struggling to remember the previous night, “it’s been such a long time since I enjoyed the pleasures of the flesh. But…what’s this? There seems to be something stuck to my massively-engorged penis. I wonder what it is? Let me try to get it off….”
    (Then the corpse of Flyboy drops down onto the floor with the others.)

    • I may be alone, but I’m having trouble finding the humor in this.

      • Miss Quinn

        I think it has something to do with the massive absurdity of the theoretical situation.

        • davefragments

          I think that Duncan or Laampros can’t mews with Kyle physically because then the “protections” protecting humans close.

          I think Kyle leaves with bad memories and when TYP have to confront Duncan with his increase powers, Kyle has to openly admit the bad memories.

          Fear isn’t collapsing the portal or bridge. Quite possibly physical contact would and for some reason Laampros doesn’t want to collapse those “protections” … I say that because obviously some humans are in touch with him…

          • Steven Klimecky

            Interesting ideas.

      • davefragments

        Being impaled on a demon’s cock that is inhumanely huge and surviving is quite the fascination for some people. It is a fetish and is played out in different ways. I’ll spare the readership the various other scenarios. They all involve impalement on things larger than that part of the anatomy (remember that freud said that it’s a phallic symbol if it is longer than its wide) … a reference to Vlad the Impaler who spawned the myth of Dracula is in this area…

        • Klaus

          Every thing is either concave or -vex
          and therefore has to do with sex.

          Sorry, I don’t remember where this is from.

        • Apparently I am not such a person.

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, I’m with you.

          • davefragments

            Not many people are. I have a theory that the internet consists of three main parts — porn, twitter, and politics — compared to them, the rest of the internet is tiny. IT’s a shame really because there is so much good stuff out there. TYP is one of the good things, an adult graphic novel that treats the readers like adults and not leering teenage boys.

          • Well said.

          • Well said.

          • SofiaT

            TYP is not treating us like teenagers but we all sure do act like ones when it’s camping time! I was just reading some comment threads from yesterday to make sure I didn’t miss anything… yeah, teenagers alright 😀

    • Yep, I’m also going to also ask that we not go here. You haven’t violated my comment policy which involves addressing others with a tone of respect and no direct attacks, but this comment section is pretty special in terms of being thoughtful—people offering thoughtful speculation on whats going on and sharing humor that aims to delight instead of provoke or troll—which as I’m sure you’re aware is pretty unusual on the Internet.

      For some folks these last pages have been a fun, engaging twist and for others, they’ve been more difficult. Regardless of where you stand, these pages are provocative and one way to deal with that is to go very dark with humor. But we’re now starting to go to places that are going to make this comment section unpleasant for a lot of folks. Joking around is of course OK, but I’m officially asking everyone here to keep the tone here thoughtful and the environment a pleasant place to be, both for long-timers and newcomers alike, and to bear that in mind before we post.

      • ཟློད་

        In that case, I sincerely apologize–to Alex, and to all those offended.

        • You are a valued member of this community. Thank you for understanding. 🙂

  • PFG9000

    And we all assume that Lampy would be the batter. Hmmmmmm……

    • Adam Black

      hes obviously a power bottom

  • Thanatopia

    Another new development! Will Kyle’s presence prove a hinderance to this forthcoming foray into demonic diplomacy? (Let’s hope so!)

    Also, seriously, YIKES! Poor Kyle! This has got to be one of the worst ways a date can go – deceived, bound against his will, molested by a gigantic stranger while helpless… A lot of that sounds horribly familiar…

  • Klaus

    How Alex must have laughed at us when we voted Kyle and Duncan for those romantic and team up prints.

    • SofiaT

      If that survey went up again, I fear I’d vote the same way.

      The Redillator has bumped into an iceberg but I refuse to abandon ship.

      • Klaus

        I, for one, am not going to make any predictions about how that will end.

        • SofiaT

          It’s not so much a prediction as wishful thinking.

          Which could end up being a prediction of course. But we won’t know for another year or two.

      • Adam Black

        I’d vote for laampros instead.

        • Klaus

          We need a Laampros romance card and a Laampros first time card.

      • Tina

        Maybe they’ll have a sweet romantic Kate and Jack moment before one of them drowns?

    • vessto

      Me too, as Sofia, will vote the same again. My wish is TYP to end with Kyle and Duncan HEA or HFN.

      • Klaus

        Whitch means, according to http://www.internetslang.com, “Happily ever after” and “Hell f*** no” respectively.

        • Or Happy for now.

        • vessto

          I use it in the ebook meaning of the abbreviation – Happy For Now. I didn’t know other meaning existed.

          Btw, if an abbreviation contains “f” it always could mean ~that~ word too.^^

      • Steven Klimecky

        Only IF (by some INCREDIBLE stretch of the imagination and no less incredible writing with equally major twists and reversals as we have seen previously) Duncan can SOMEhow be redeemed for all this, if such is even possible now.

        • vessto

          Can be done easy.;) Like C3PO and R2D2 at the end of Episode 3. Duncan may have his memory wiped out.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Regretting that here at this point.

    • I expected Duncan to betray Kyle pretty early on, but I voted for that print, too. The Kyle and Duncan romance was still very possible until recent plot events occurred. Instead of a “happily ever after” that sums up the entire Young Protectors story, I see the Kyle/Duncan romance print as a snapshot of that part of the story. It’s very possible that everything could be flipped on its head and Duncan could be redeemed with the number of chapters we’ve yet to see. Who knows?

      • SofiaT

        I was waiting for the trap to close while reading the whole first chapter (granted, I read it all at once so the feelings are different than waiting every week for a new page) and was certain Duncan had ulterior motives. And even though I saw the betrayal coming, I still shipped those too.

        But a part of me feared that maybe Duncan really didn’t give a shit about Kyle and we would have a “mwa ha ha” moment when the plan was revealed. The more he sweet-talked him, the more restless I became.

        Now, while everyone is freaking out in the last few pages, I have actually started to relax -if that makes any sense- because now I’ve seen enough to know Kyle has gotten under Duncan’s skin.

        At this point, for me, that’s enough. I don’t know if there’s going to be a HEA for these two, but I thoroughly enjoy the dynamics of their relationship now that the cat is out of the bag.

  • Adam Black

    I think Spooky embraced his cultures tropes, not stereotypes.
    There is a difference.

    Being comfortable using and applying the lore of ones culture isnt a bad thing, on its own. Its only a distorted when people are reduced to two dimensional tropes, and drained of all nuance.

    I wouldnt assume an asian magic user would follow classic asian styles, but there is no reason to assume they would exclude them either.

    Presenting an authentic native american magic/powers cultural expression or spirituality is more difficult. There isnt a reason to present a stereotype.

    • Mickey B

      I just thought of the word “stereotype” because of when Spooky said “To embrace a stereotype is to control it. And controlling an idea with one’s mind is the foundation of all magic.” when he conjured the new year’s dragon.

    • SofiaT

      Is the Commander a native American? I hadn’t realised.

      Is that somewhere and I missed it? (genuine question, not being sarcastic here)

      • Klaus

        Alex said so in the comments in answer to a question.

        • SofiaT

          Ah! Thanks. I haven’t read any of the comments in the earlier pages (I assume that question was posed in ch.1?)

        • vessto

          Thank you, I didn’t know too!

  • Huh, just noticed in the last panel that Laamy is looking at Duncan when he’s talking about weakness. That adds a bit to the notion he’s poking at the Duncanator. And the comment about the flesh, that’s sort of old fashioned and brings to mind “sins of the flesh”. So basically the urge for sexual pleasure makes one weak.

    Yes, I’m a little slow the last couple of days.

    • vessto

      And that means that one’s genitals make him/her weak (which is the pure truth).:D

    • SofiaT

      Demons, according to mythology (or theology, depending how you see it) are supposed to be able to look into people’s deepest desires and secret wishes. They have no power over humans unless free will is offered (like Kyle gave his trust to Duncan on his own free will) but they can take advantage of their insight to mess with your head and bring you where they want you to be.

      Soooo…. maybe Laampros sees that Kyle means more to Duncan than he cares to admit, even to himself, and that’s why he’s messing with him?

      • That’s a distinct possibility. He’s smiling Duncan’s way when he’s saying this. I’m taking that to mean he’s enjoying this little show, trying to make Duncan squirm. If he does see into Duncan’s mind, that could be why Duncan gave that speech to Kyle about sentimentality being a weakness, he was preparing for this.

        In panel two, Duncan is starting to rise. It’s very possible he did not care to have Laamy going over to Kyle, even if it was just subconsciously. He may not even realize that he’s come off his knee.

        • SofiaT

          I can’t wait for the next few pages! 😀

          • Hesthea

            You and me both! ;D

          • I’m on the edge of my seat in anticipation. Just a couple more nights and we’re there!

          • SofiaT

            It’s public holiday here today (Monday) so hopefully Wed/day will arrive quicker… I’ll miss Saturday’s camping though, I’ll be in Tasmania. Mostly excited for my trip but another part of me just wants a quiet corner on Saturday, with a laptop and wifi…

          • What holiday? Today went quick because my brother and sis-in-law came up for a visit. It’s funny, I almost hear everyone drumming and chanting Wednesday.

            You might get lucky for Sat. You never know. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Oh, I’ll see the new page on my phone, no question about that, but I’ll be too busy exploring Hobart and whale-watching (hopefully) to camp out with the rest of you.

            And it’s Labour day in NSW, Queensland and South Australia today. Last public holiday before Christmas.

            Edit: Also, I think they celebrate the Queen’s birthday today in QLD too. Although I’m not sure why, we celebrated it in June.

          • Right right. The good thing about smart phones, a little piece of the internet wherever you are. Of course your input will be missed 😀

            Labor day here was the first Monday in Sept. (I think)

      • vessto

        Laampros’ interest in Kyle seems like one’s interest in a juicy chop after 90 days of a carrot diet.

        • Denise Cruz

          XDDDDD Good one!
          Poor kid! I believe his going to be terrified every time he sees something red… At least, for a while… XDD

    • Denise Cruz

      Exactly what I had thought! I think he intends using Kyle to punish Anni, for being able to go there, also, using Kyle.
      Or maybe he has seen something between the two of them, because evidently, Kyle didn’t feel any pain, so…
      I don’t think a demon would like this kind of change in the initial/prime plans. If someone wants to enter his town, someone have to pay for it, preferably with A LOT of pain!

      • It’s quite possible that Duncan did cheat to get there. Sneaking in through a loophole in the wording. With Sofia mentioning that demons supposedly have the ability to see deepest desires… Yeah, we have some interesting possibilities on the horizon.

        • Denise Cruz

          Why isn’t it Wednesday yet?!?! WHy?! (so anxious).

          • I know! But we have tonight and tomorrow night to get through and then camping begins!

          • Denise Cruz

            Yessss!! I’m already dying for it!! Bring us some cookies, cakes, tea, coffee, whatever…
            I just hope I can be able to wait for the update untill it’s here. ^v^ Otherwise, I’ll have to read it only later at Wednesday… i.i

          • Well don’t die on us! 🙂 We’ll make it. Just two nights to go. Coffee is a given of course. I count myself lucky that the update is usually up around 10pm my time.

          • Denise Cruz

            You are lucky! Indeed!
            If Alex keeps on putting it on around that time he did last time, I’ll be fine! ^v^
            But, anyway, I’ll be always here , as much as I can do it. I love being here! It’s always very fun!

          • Denise Cruz

            Didn’t I just answered this question of yours?! (it’s happening a lot, today)
            I know… I just hope to be able to wait untill the update comes. Camping is really nice! I love it! But, sometimes, it goes unitll 3 AM, for me… It makes hard to endure the Wednesday…XDD

          • Yes, yes, I think you did, but that’s okay! Camping has been an awesome experience here. It’s a special place indeed.

          • Denise Cruz

            Sorry about it! I can’t see my own comments, they are kind of vanishing all night long… each one I post, vanish. So, I keep writing them again.. I didn’t know that you, guys, can see them, although I don’t.
            Thanks. 😀

          • Sometimes when you use the notifications to find a comment and reply and then you hit that same one again, your reply appears not to be there. It can get confusing.

          • Denise Cruz

            It means that I had reposted A LOT of double comments to people today… lol
            I deserve it! XDDD
            I even answered one of Alex’s questions about the pillows again, tonight… although, that one was posted and answered right before the last update…

          • The lines of comments can get quite tangled. 🙂 I just found out if you get email notifications that you can reply and it will post.

          • Denise Cruz

            That’s great! ^v^ Makes things a little easier!

          • Denise Cruz

            You can call me crazzy, if you want to, but… Am I the only one noticing that ‘dat ass’ looks great even under that nave blue piece from his fighting suit?! (Look at the second panel) XDD

          • The Duncanator has himself a mighty fine ass and nothing can hide it! 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Well… I’m pretty sure that my hands could!
            Just tell him to let me try and I’ll show it to both of you!! No doubt about it! XDD

          • You might have to fight several others for the privilege. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Not really! First came, first served! Besides, i’m asking him first! XDDD

            And, of course, once my hands are there, I’ll NEVER take them off! Never!! XDD

            ( I think Alex is probably worring himself about put on or not a restrictive order over me, to save Anni!) XDD

          • XD!

          • SofiaT

            The way he’s squatting? Trust me, you’re not the only one who’s noticed.

            And if there’s anything to be considered crazy for, is the way we’re all losing our heads over a two-dimentional, sketched ass of a fictional character *headdesk*

          • Denise Cruz

            XDD True! But, worth it!!
            (Oh, for God’s sake! Who wouldn’t?!) XDD *pounding head on the wall*

  • vessto

    I bet this time we can hit 2000 comments till Wednesday!

    • ཟློད་
      • SofiaT

        Not sure I’d like this comments section anymore if it’s swarmed by anti-gay religious fanatics.
        We should try to keep the conversation troll-free, not invite trolls to come in for a fight.

        • Klaus

          Even if satirical – as I find most likely – some fanatics are going to take it at face value.

          • SofiaT

            I agree. I hope it doesn’t draw their attention here.

            But in the meantime, I’m trying to understand what that forum is about. Usually you can tell when something is satire because it’s an exaggerated, ridiculous version of the truth. But fanatics are usually ridiculous anyway and they love to exaggerate so I can’t tell.

          • A Google search does seem to indicate that it is in fact parody:

            http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

            I would still prefer not to have this site or comments section included. And I am asking that that posting please still be removed.

          • vessto

            Indeed I knew very fanatical clips in YT made by a teen girl (Like God Hates Japan or Beat Your Children) and many comments were that she makes parodies of the most hateful lines in the bible and their contemporary reading (as “as long quakes happened so “the lord” hates this countries”). I never learned if she was for real or did parodies. Still no matter parody or not we know zealots ARE like that.

          • SofiaT

            Deep breaths, vessto. No troll has come here yet and they might never show up. If a stray one does pop up, it’s better we don’t engage them in conversation. Fanatics are not worth our hate, they’re just too caught up in their ignorance, it’s sad really.

            And to be fair, I’m sure there are lot of devout christians/muslims/jedi out there who are logical human beings and don’t engage in hate speech. 🙂

          • vessto

            Yup, they are caught in their ignorance but that causes pain, destruction and death. Homeless GLBT children, situations like in Uganda, Iran and Russia and many more. If their sickness concerned only them then I won’t care as much. But their sickness concern the whole world.:(

          • vessto

            Didn’t and won’t visit it but for sure you are absolutely right about fanatics.

          • vessto

            Fanatics are always like that, they are satirical and pitiful.

        • vessto

          Most of zealots’ views ARE satirical so we can never be sure.

          Sorry for the ALL CAPS, I don’t know how to italic or bold words.

          • SofiaT
          • vessto

            Thank you very much!!!! Indeed I even didn’t know if to use html or forum codes.

          • Thanks for the codes! I’ve been meaning to look for a page which has them in one place.

          • SofiaT

            you’re welcome 🙂

      • If you scroll lower in the comments on this page, you’ll find that I asked that that posting be removed from that forum. This is trouble we don’t need. I have limited time and I’d much rather spend it working on fun, interesting comics for y’all than moderating hate speech.

        If you have the ability to delete that comment from that forum, please do so. If you don’t have the ability to delete the post outright, please edit it to remove all reference to me and this site ideally so that it is the equivalent of deleted.

        Thank you.

        • vessto

          I think at least it can be edited and all links to here removed. Hope no idiots will come here.

      • vessto

        Thank you but I tend not to visit religious sites. I can’t stand the deep hate and inhuman insane lines.

      • vessto

        And I meant positive, true comments, not comments of insane brainless religious ones.

      • davefragments

        Please don’t throw out a link to Lan###R without the explanation that it is a SATIRE of epic proportions. That site is like THE ONION but without disclaimers and I’v had too many friends and acquaintances on the Internet find it and get slightly nuts.

        There are several websites out there that are satire and don’t advertise that they are satire. One reason I could buy MAD or CRACKED Magazines as a teen was that everyone understood it was a joke but these websites don’t reveal that so when the unsuspecting viewer comes along, they get blindsided.

        Please be very careful about linking to those sites.

        Also, in a comment thread, don’t just link, explain your thoughts and remember that not everyone will speak about some of these matters (sex and super-powers and demons) in the same familiar or comfortable terms as you do. . .

        • vessto

          So, it is not a real fanatical site? Phew, I’m relieved!! I hope though that real fanatics don’t go there too because they could follow the posted link to here…

      • Thank you for removing the link to this site. Please remove my name as well. Perhaps replace it with “the writer” if you’re really wanting to keep the note. Thank you.

  • Tina

    *glances down at the previous comments* hmm… maybe we should tone it down a bit, myself included. I do enjoy reading the comments and stuff but I think we’re all going a little bit crazy.

    Let’s say give Alex and the team a half a day’s break to rest. They work so hard to bring us quality work. Who’s with me? /Last comment until tomorrow

    • Tragically_Unhip

      I’m with you on that one. I got out of bed and came to browse the comments, and I found both the sheer volume and a good portion of the content to simply be frustrating. Yikes. Would not enjoy the exhaustion that would go with keeping tabs on everyone just to make sure the comment section remains chill, even though we’re all playing fairly nice anyway. Guess that’s the price of popularity…?

      I am proposing Suck-Up Sunday — the day on which we take a break from theories, speculations, and various other meandering thoughts, and only say really nice things about the comic. Hahaha. I’ll start.

      I am thrilled that TYP has taken such an unexpected and dark turn. I’m glad I continued to read it despite initially finding it dry. The writing has been skillful and bold, the art is vivid and exciting (Adam, your ability to draw such good feet makes me green with envy), and every week I find myself impatient for the next page because I know it will be excellent.

    • vessto

      Maybe only important comments on the same topic can be allowed. Like new ideas/plots for what will happen.

  • KiannaLeigh

    Is it weird that i sort of like mr. scary demon man? I have thing for dudes with horns. Plus he seems really regal to me. <3 Not sure why.

    • lamphi is a refined fellow.

      he’s probably taught anhi everything he knows.

      (heh heh.)

      • KiannaLeigh

        Hopefully. teehee

    • Feverfew_M

      Heh, yeah, he’s kinda hot. (can’t believe I went there…)

      • Tragically_Unhip

        I can’t believe no one else made that joke yet. hahaha

        • Feverfew_M

          Clearly everyone else has more restraint. *hangs head in shame*
          Or not many readers think he’s… sexy. 😉

          • Denise Cruz

            I’ve seen many who does! I’m not in this team, but… Differences! That’s what makes the world so amazing, isn’t?! 😉

          • Feverfew_M

            Absolutely! 🙂

  • Amanda

    Whoa….. I don’t check the comments for awhile and it looks like some stuff went bat crap crazy! Just reading through I had to hide a comment it was so gross. Has the world gone mad?

    • Feverfew_M

      Nah, it’s just that with increasing publicity of TYP and increasing number of comments, the occasional intrusion of “normal” internet behaviour into the protected bubble that is this comment section becomes more likely. I guess we all have to make an extra effort to keep this section what it is — one of the most friendly places in the net. 🙂

  • grimsister21

    Demon sex? Really, Alex?
    I don’t mind the sex as much as I mind the rape

    • vessto

      No, I don’t think Alex will involve Kyle and Laampros in any sexual act.

      • Denise Cruz

        Agreed! I don’t think he would be so mean or so… I don’t even know how should I name it…lol
        But, it seems like some of our friends readers kind of liked this idea.
        I just think it’s nasty and mean but, that’s me!
        Let’s see what Alex thinks about it. (Never soon enough but… XD)

        • vessto

          I know many want it and personally I want Anni to be sub to Laampros. *gives up to fantasies* But what we want is one and what could happen is another. It would be outside of the manner of TYP comics if any sexual act is implied in this new tough situation. This is not some plotless XXX comics (again, not that we don’t like XXX comics, even the opposite). But this mix of a sudden erotica in the middle of important meeting is not what we could have in TYP. Not that it will be unwanted from fans but it will be not-so-TYP-ish.

          • Steven Klimecky

            But, again, talking about sex pleasures while engaged in naked fondling of a naked person in bondage is already a sexual act, just by default,

          • vessto

            Hmmm, phmmmmm, you’re right by default.XD

          • vessto

            And, btw, I started to feel fear for Kyle’s nipple. Laampros’ nails are way too sharp…

          • Denise Cruz

            Agreed!
            Anyway, Alex always surprises us. (The guy is the God of the Unexpected Ideas!! XD)
            I’m excited about the next update!

          • vessto

            Me too. I love how he surprises us yet without passing the border of the nice mannered plot.

          • Denise Cruz

            Exactly! As I said: The guy is a God! XD

          • vessto

            I am an Atheist but if I must make exceptions Alex is the first one I do.;)

          • Denise Cruz

            XDD All right! I respect that!
            So… let’s say Alex is… what would you call him?

          • vessto

            I’ll use the Greek mythology (it is most gay-friendly).:D His name would be Alexios, the god of paper, and his armor will be a slim piece of stone (ancient tablet). He’s the Lord of all written papers and his main duty is to observe and remove all stupidity, stereotype and cliche which lays on a paper.

          • Denise Cruz

            I kind of liked that!! So, Alexios, The God of Paper! 😉

          • vessto

            Did I mentioned he’s tall, well built, dark haired and hot?:p

            Additional features: Patient, good mannered and with taste for interesting plots.:D

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDD No, you didn’t! But, I’m quite sure he totally apreciattes your mentions about him!! 😀
            (BTW:I loved this one! It’s my favorite! XD Even I would like to meet such a god!! XDD)

    • Steven Klimecky

      If you manage to read through the comments on this page, you’ll notice a lot of debate and discussion throughout relating to that concern.

    • Alex has already stated that rape won’t happen.

      • grimsister21

        Thank god for that

  • vessto

    I didn’t think about that. He surely sees it but imho he’s scared from the situation as a whole.

  • Klaus

    Are Killer and Laampros related, or do they just happen to like similar hairstyles?

    • Feverfew_M

      Ha, didn’t notice the similarity in hairstyles, but I did think that Laampros’ face looked a bit like Hunter’s. Maybe he is a demonic combination of both? 😀

    • Steven Klimecky

      🙂

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      They probably patronize the same hairdresser.

  • Kalynn Osburn

    I think this is going to be a telling notion of whether or not Duncan cares for Kyle in the least. If he does, he might come up for some reason not to let big giant demon dude rape him. If not…well…

    Let’s just say the writers will have to progress carefully to avoid alienating an audience.

    • Denise Cruz

      Agreed! At least, partly! Because the ‘alienating audience’ it’s going to be pretty hard to get, once some readers want to see the rape thing; Others, among whom I find myself, don’t even want to think very much about it.

      I woudn’t want to be in Alex’s, Adam’s or Veronica’s skin right now! XDD

      Anyway, I really agree with you about the ‘caring part’.
      Duncan is going to have a hard decision to make.
      Let’s hope he doesn’t disappoint us, even more.

      • Kalynn Osburn

        I really don’t think that AAV would have Kyle get raped. I really don’t. That being said…let us look outside for a moment.

        Rape is something that DOES happen to people. It is a legitimate problem in the real world and something that real world people have to deal with and overcome. True there are a lot of comics that use the Women in Refrigerators as a plot point to give a character motivation for revenge. But imagine if the victim executed their own rescue and justice. What if that scenario could be made to be empowering for the character rather than something which breaks them? Rape as a plot point is always a huge risk because the general public is hurt and offended by it. But imagine you are someone who has been raped and now you finally see someone taking their life into their own hands and facilitating their own salvation. Imagine feeling stronger and powerful because of this. Imagine seeing that character find happiness and contentment and yes even love. It gives one hope.

        If Duncan saves Kyle it is almost more cruel. Because you KNOW from this point on there is no chance at a real relationship. It would just be another manipulative, emotionally abusive fanfiction fodder. And I have admired these writers for keeping away from that without loosing the elements that attract us to these character.

        • Denise Cruz

          Well… all right!

          I know that rape happens, far away more often than we would like it did.

          When I said that I’m among those who don’t even want to think about it very much, I was refering to Kyle being raped by that big red horned thing. I didn’t have any intention to offend anyone. I’m so sorry! (bending over).

          Personaly, I know some people whom was in this aweful situation… It isn’t a pretty picture. That’s why I wouldn’t want seeing this happening here. If I had been in such a situation, the last thing I would want to see would be this kind of thing happening again. Wouldn’t matter with whom…

          But, of course, I didn’t know that someone could feel stronger or more powerful just for see it right here. That’s good! I think it could even be worth. But, of course, I still feel for Kyle.

          About Duncan… I disagree!

          I think they could be able to build a real and great relationship, even at the moment they are now. Since they can forgive and trust each other. (It’s hard! I know!) But, if I was in Kyle’s shoes, and Duncan let it happen, let that demon just rape me, then I wouldn’t be able to trust him again! Never!

          But, again, that’s just me! We can agree on disagree about this one! 😉

    • Steven Klimecky

      Yes – Alex is already walking a very fine line, and in my opinion, has crossed over a bit, due to this all happening with Kyle naked and in bondage and in a non-consensual fashion, etc.

  • Amanda

    I’m not going to lie, when I look at the first panel of Laampros’ s face, and then read the words I am totally inserting a “Riiiigggghht” in an Austin Powers voice.

  • Steven Klimecky

    That Llampros says that it has been far too long since he has been ABLE to enjoy mortal pleasures, it doesn’t mean that he can’t or couldn’t – he may be using the construction in such a way as to indicate that he has not had the OPPORTUNITY, or the chance to indulge in such things, along the line of “It has been so long since I’ve been able to travel” or “…been able to wear my favorite ensemble out to a suitable event”, etc. There may be various reasons why one has not been able or have the chance to do something, rather than being actually or necessarily INCAPABLE of doing so if the opportunity arose.

    • vessto

      Maybe it is a choice because mortal pleasure may make him weaker (as he slightly noted). He chose to be powerful and to leave what makes him weaker. The similar statement as Anni’s. In that meaning, maybe Anni tries to weaken Laampros with suggesting him something that could make him weaker?? But Laampros is not a fool at all. I see a deeper plot here…

    • Feverfew_M

      Good point! Maybe there isn’t suitable company in this dimension, or he’d have to cross into “our” world to be able to do such a thing. Both possibilities could make the current situation go very much out of hand.

  • Miss Quinn

    Why is it that no matter what he wears, Tim Curry is beyond awesome and weirdly sexual?

  • Ellen Harman

    Well I am in for the long haul. I really can not wait to see how this will all come out in the end.

    Heros only get stronger the more they are hurt. After all to be a hero means they can take being down hurt and reviled. Otherwise they may become a villian. Example HP years 2 and 3 when everyone was against him.

    • WarGoddess

      Omg HP references for the win!! XD I personally think that he was hated more in book 5 than in book 3, but he did encounter a lot of adversity in book 3 what with the horrid aunt Marge blowing up fiasco and problems with dementors. 🙂

  • Kuraen

    So up for this Kink. XP

  • Winter

    Hi All! Long time lurker, first time commenter. I’m ashamed to admit but I still like the idea of Kyle and Duncan. I never saw them as longterm simply do to where they both are in their lives but I like them together anyway. There is a redeeming quality in Duncan and Kyle will be the one to bring it out of him whether they are romantically involved or not if in no other way but leading by example. I’m rereading the conversation with Duncan and Sircea right now and I’m convinced they are looking for immortality. They’re both pretty much all powerful but are getting up there in age. Laampy might be able to grant that wish for them in exchange for something else. I did have a crazy thought. What if Duncan is not only looking for immortality but wants his youth back too. That would mean he and Kyle would look close to the same age. After Kyle’s therapy and Duncan’s groveling that could open the door to more possibilities. Maybe I’m grasping at straws because I was team Duncan for a while there.

    • Denise Cruz

      I’m your fan, already! ^v^
      I love Duncan and agree with almost everything you said.
      I do love seeing him with Kyle and didn’t give up from it.(And probably won’t, untill the webcomic is finished!) They are adorable together! Duncan was so sweet with that boy, so affectionate, sometimes…
      Yeah! I can see Kyle helping him to redeem himself.
      It would be a shame if it doesn’t happen! 🙂

      • Winter

        He was so attentive and affectionate. I was yelling at my screen when I reread the parts with him sweet talking Kyle. That smooth talking bastard hahaha.

        • Denise Cruz

          We all know how it turned out to be.(Unfortunatly). But, reread that doesn’t make you fall in love with Anni even more?! (Sooo sweet!!) *.*

          • Winter

            It makes me want to back hand him. I know he cares for Kyle and there was some truth sprinkled in with his lies but it’s sad remembering how adorable and happy Kyle was. Damn you Duncan *shakes fist in anger* I love you too 🙁

          • Denise Cruz

            Kyle was so adorable around him… so shy and so sweet…
            Duncan… I wanted so badly slap him a lot when I first saw what he had done. Now I feel sorry for him… He does like Kyle, but he’s too scared to change to be able to see it right now. And that’s sad! i.i
            I hope it’s not too late when he finally undestand it. i.i

          • Steven Klimecky

            I know! I so hope you are correct. I’m not sure how much he really likes Kyle truly, if at all. I hope somewhere deep inside he does, but I can’t see how anyone that feels that way, even subconsciously, could do what he did to poor Kyle. I hope something changes that make him no longer be able to repress his feelings and make him realize that what he did was horrendous. But, on the other hand, I see little chance of such an admittance or realization at this point.

          • Denise Cruz

            I think he’s yet lost in himself, fighting himself! It’s very, very hard changing who you are, specially if you’ve been like this for sooo much time and everyone else know you like that. It’s damn hard!

            But, I can’t lose my hopes! I really like him ! I like both of them together! So cute ^v^

            For me, Kyle is going to be the key turning point for Duncan, somehow, at some point. (Not necessarily now). The subject and extra strength he needed to be able to make such a change in himself.

            At least, that’s what I’m hoping for. 😀

            I’d hate seeing him alone and in pain, for the rest of his life. (such a waste!!)

            (I know!! I look like an innocent kid right now! But, I can’t avoid it! XDD)

          • Kyle could be mostly laughing to himself..

          • SofiaT

            *nods* Definitely back-hand him. And kick him in the nuts too.

        • Maybe he was sincere…I mean…I really want to see how Alex handles the, “super villains are always fucked up somewhere somehow”…so is Anni fucked up or is he just…playing a bigger game than expected?

        • Steven Klimecky

          Yeah, I know. That was one of the reasons why I fell in love with this comic – that affection between those 2 particular characters. An older but attractive man engaging the interest of a young, sweet, innocent adorably handsome guy, etc. And a lot of young people here even had a positive reaction to that – which gave me some hope. It gave me hope that things aren’t too late for me – that maybe I’ll still be able to find a “Kyle of my own” before it’s too late. But then things changed, and that was one reason why I was so angry with what happened and with Duncan. He totally ruined the situation and my positive feelings and I was so disappointed. Duncan then became just one more older gay man portrayed to be a sexual predator, thus just firming up that stereotype.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Except that all the sweetness and affection was all an act and a bunch of lies to get Kyle in bed with him and get him to the point of climax so he could use that spell and…all that he (and we) is dealing with at the moment

        • Denise Cruz

          I don’t think so, Steven! Of course he’s being a freaking bastard! But, I really think he feels something for Kyle. He only wasn’t read for it. He didn’t see it coming, so he’s scared about it, ’cause he knows he’s already changing and will need to change even more, if he wants to be with that boy. He seems to be affraid of look weaker because of it. Anyway, look at panel two and you’ll see how awkward he was about Laampros approaching himself from Kyle.

          Don’t keep reading only the cover, friend, go deeper. Any book hides secrets inside itself! Even if this book is Anni! 😉

          Well,at least, this is what I think. Of course I can be wrong…
          We’ll find out soon enough. (I hope! XD)

        • SofiaT

          Oh yes, I agree with you Steven, it was all a lie… or at least it started as a lie. And he is a bastard. A charming bastard with a glorious body and smooth, hypnotising attitude, but a bastard nevertheless.

          But I’m pretty sure Kyle has gotten under his skin.

          Sweet, sweet revenge your name is Karma >:D

    • SofiaT

      Welcome to the comments section Winter! Here, grab a Team Redilator shirt *throws shirt at you*

      • Winter

        Yay! *shakes matching pompoms*

        Go Red! …wait red as in Red Hot not Laampy.

        • SofiaT

          ssshhh… we’re lying low for now. Put your shirt on and cover up. 😉

          Popcorn?

          • Winter

            Mmm yes please. I’ve made pie if anyone wants some.

      • Tina

        We’ll be getting matching Jackets soon too. Its a flaming shrieken <3

        • Winter

          I’m so excite for our official uniform.

          • Tina

            The other side doesn’t have official uniforms because deep down they actually know Redillator is the one true pairing! XD

        • Denise Cruz

          Hey! I want one too!! i.i

          • Tina

            She best get here quick, they’re going fast!

          • There would be no way I’m missing the team jacket.

          • SofiaT

            You know, we should ask Alex to put them on the list for things available to buy at the online store, like the body pillows 😛

          • Haha! Maybe we should. What type of jacket? Wind breakers?

          • SofiaT

            I had a football style jacket in mind.

          • Football as is soccer or football as in well football? 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Real football is soccer, but yeah, I had American football in mind. Like in the high school movies. 😛

          • A letterman’s jacket!

          • SofiaT

            yea, that. I didn’t know what it was called 😀

          • SofiaT
          • I like it. I would normally say red and gold, but then we’d be Team Ironman. 😛

          • Tina

            I’ll design it! I got a wicked design in mind!

        • Amanda

          Are we going to be a gang…. like the tbirds and pink ladies?

          • SofiaT

            And we’ll be singing to Duncan:

            “My head is saying “fool, forget him”,

            my heart is saying “don’t let go”

            Hold on to the end, that’s what I intend to do

            I’m hopelessly devoted to you”

          • Tina

            Which song is that based off? I can’t get the melody in my head

          • SofiaT

            “Hopelessly devoted to you” from Grease -Olivia Newton John sings it.

          • Tina

            Its better than being Team Edward or Team Jacob.

          • Sapfo

            Team How?
            <..>
            been living under a rock for the last couple of years, and if you try to enlighten me in how those people are I am going to cover my ears and go: “LALALALALALALA!” 😉

          • SofiaT

            Even Team Laampros is better than Team Edward or Team Jacob :S

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDD Good point!

          • Steven Klimecky

            But damn that Lautner werewolf boy is cute!

      • Amanda

        Team Redilator is awesome!

        • SofiaT

          What other team has t-shirts, life-jackets, poems(!), and offers cookies and freshly percolated (see: @admiraljane:disqus) coffee with every new registration? ;D

          • We need to find a nice basket to fit this all in. The complimentary Redilator starter kit.

          • I want some of this coffee…might go well with my pop corn (non-existent of course).

          • Feverfew_M

            Make that a bucket instead, they are still needed! ;D

          • You have a good point! This way the team logo can be imprinted on the side.

          • SofiaT

            What’s the team logo?

          • Um… That’s a good question. A flame with a throwing star in the center?

          • SofiaT

            Sounds good! Slight change (in meaning): a throwing star in flames?

          • Is the throwing star on fire?

          • Feverfew_M

            If it isn’t quite, yet, it soon will be! *nods*

          • Ha!

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, I like the symbolism of it. 🙂

          • Sounds good. It looks like we have ourselves a logo! *popping open champagne*

          • SofiaT

            Now we just need to commission @wargoddess to sketch it 😛

          • Yes we do. I wonder where @WarGoddess is.

            Edit: And why isn’t the tagging working.

          • SofiaT

            Btw, I heard back from motordog. He’s alive!!! 😛

          • Good to hear. His presence sure was missed. So was he on some tropical beach

          • SofiaT

            I didn’t ask, but in my mind he was. With a hot guy and having fruity drinks with little umbrellas.

          • Yeah, mine too. Lucky guy. 😛

          • WarGoddess

            I have no idea why the tagging isn’t working. Sorry about not being on here recently, I haven’t had much time for TYP (it’s practically a cardinal sin to not have the time for it, lol!) I’ve had a family member pass on. He was my great uncle Rudy, and he was suffering from pneumonia, crystals in his lungs, and a shattered hip. He was in a lot of pain, so I am glad that he was finally called home so he didn’t have to suffer anymore. He lived a very long life, and I have every reason to believe that he is in heaven now, watching over me. I am sad that he is gone, and that my time in the military prevented me from spending more time with him, but I did get to come home and see him before he died, so for that, I am grateful.

            In other happier news, I drew the picture of Grand General Zomet for you Admiral Jane, I just have to get access to some wifi now so I can put it on my DA page. 😀 I’m currently in the process of debating how I’m going to portray your male character, it’s a bit harder for me to draw males. 🙂

            The Redilator logo sounds amazing, and I will create it for you guys hopefully in time for the next update! 😀

          • It’s good to see you back. I’m sorry to hear about your uncle. It’s never easy losing a loved one, even when you know that they’re no longer in pain. So my heart goes out to you.

            In the happier news, I look forward to seeing Grand General Zomet! And when he’s done, Noble Karre. I have faith you can do it. 😀

            Yay logo! I do love this community.

          • WarGoddess

            Thank you for the kind words! nd I love this commenting community too! We’re all a bunch of goofy goofy goobers!!! XD

          • That sounds about right (goofy goofy goobers)! 😀

          • SofiaT

            Sorry to hear about your loss -athough it sounds like your uncle finally found peace. *hugs*

            And yay, for the logo! 😀

          • WarGoddess

            thank you for the hugs!! I’m still a bit busy job hunting, so the logo won’t be up until hopefully next update if there isn’t a queue of fanart again! I’ll likely have the opportunity at wifi either tomorrow or Friday, I don’t know yet. 😀

          • Tina

            Lol that was my idea!

          • SofiaT

            Sorry, I hadn’t realised that’s what a shrieken is 😀

          • Tina

            Teehee its cool. Yeah its just the Chinese word for throwing star

          • If you had said shuriken, I would have understood. 😀

          • You don’t think we have t-shirts on Team Pitchfork??

          • SofiaT

            You may have tshirts but do you have welcoming baskets? I mean, buckets?

    • Yes…Kyle’s therapist:

      “Well Kyle, look, you generate so much thermal energy demons are interested in you…does this not indicate that you will simply be a person of interest always to the greatest super villains”

      My question is, what does his team say given that some of them seemed really excited by the fanfic/porn/whatever it was.

      I’d hate to be either up against someone who can bend luck….

    • Re Redilator, I just don’t get it. Duncan has groomed and exploited an extremely vulnerable (because of his past) teenage boy. And he’s forcing Kyle to go through this terrifying experience without giving him any clue about is going to happen.

      Duncan’s redemption is a totally different thing from Kyle entering into a relationship with him again. I’m sure Alex can find some way to redeem Duncan. Maybe he’ll almost die saving Kyle. Maybe he’ll end up giving up his powers and strength (*cue Disney moment* and thus find what true strength really is…) to save Kyle’s life. Probably Alex will have some non-cliched, unpredictable idea about how Duncan can earn redemption and Kyle’s forgiveness.

      But I will never be convinced that Kyle should be in a relationship with Duncan. After time, a battered wife may forgive her ex husband if he’s truly remorseful and works to redeem himself. But live with again? NO.

      I would feel very sad about Kyle and his sense of self worth if he ends up back in Duncan’s bed. There are plenty of other men out there for Kyle who haven’t abused him. The only thing Duncan has going for him is his fireproofness, and it would be a tragedy if Kyle ends up so lonely that Duncan’s fire trump card is too much to resist.

      • SofiaT

        But that’s not what Team Redilator is about.

        At least not for me it isn’t, I can’t vouch for everyone else, we all tend to see things differently.

        But the way I see it, those who support Duncan, don’t see him as the main villain of this story, they see him as another tragic character (for more about that, check my comment to davefragments above: http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-36/#comment-1074616861) who, just like Kyle, also has a journey to make. And we count on his relationship to Kyle, whatever that will be, to be the one that helps him make it there.

        I’ve said it before many times but I’ll repeat it again here, because that’s the essense of what “Redilator” is all about: Kyle is going to rise as a hero and in the process he’s going to save Duncan from himself.

        Or at least, that’s what we’re hoping for.

        • Exactly. That’s exactly it for me. Thanks for saying it so eloquently!

          • SofiaT

            You’re very welcome 🙂

        • WarGoddess

          Perfect, SofiaT! I couldn’t have said it better myself! To me, Duncan is the Grinch, and Kyle along with the Young Protectors are going to help his heart grow a few sizes in the end! 😀

        • ScorpioladyCZ

          Wow, that’s exactly it! 🙂 I hoping for that too.

        • sorry i’m on a war path tonight lol…so that’s exactly my contention against Duncan…i think he just wants people to perceive him as tragic and he will use that

      • Steven Klimecky

        Sadly, I’d have to agree with you on all this – at least at the moment. I’m not sure how Kyle could EVER trust Duncan again. And, unfortunately, I think that this could effect Kyle psychologically to the point where I’m not sure Kyle could ever be comfortable being intimate with Duncan again – not just because of Duncan’s emotional lies and betrayal, but because of the horrifying events that followed. He might be unlucky enough, now, to have difficulty being intimate with ANYONE now, even if someone else WAS fireproof.

    • WarGoddess

      Welcome to the party Winter! And I agree with you about wanting Duncan and Kyle to be together, I just love when the bad guy gets a chance to redeem himself and be happy just like everyone else. And your theories are very interesting! Hope you have fun scooping water out of this sinking ship with the rest of us! Hope you brought your life jacket, and if not, Admiral Jane will lend you an extra! 😀

      • We have a new complimentary Reditalor welcoming bucket with logo!. 😀

    • Yes, I must offer welcome as well and I give to you the starter kit, with all needed supplies which include t-shirt (given by Sofia), life jacket (with light and whistle), coffee, cookies, poems! and well the bucket that it comes in for bailing out the boat when times seem dim. *hands Redilator welcome bucket* 😀

    • Adam Black

      yes, welcome Winter,

      I hope Duncan gets everything coming to him—even Youth if hes earned it in some ways. As I am sure there will be unforeseen consequences —-like a loss of power, or memory.

  • oh. oh. oh…..

    All so worth it for that moment…hmm…now Alex will you deal in consequences or something from another field… (edited out the “are” error after realizing that “that” plus “are” would have been perfectly acceptable).

    Could his team have really been so clueless? When they found the fanfic would they not have thought…?

    So interesting…

    Well done Alex, well done 🙂

  • rgleon9986

    I, for one, am curious about the cosmological/metaphysical implications of this trip. It’s clear that this world has magical, and psychic phenomena, and the two may or may not be related. King Solomon apparently existed in some form, and had control over demons/djinn, but this is not “traditional magic,” as PP put it (if we can associate Kyle’s powers with said Djinn/Demons, which I think is a pretty safe bet).

    What other kinds of extradimensional entities/realms are there, besides this one and Laampros?

    And what kind of implications does this have on how Kyle obtained his powers?

    Magical beings in fiction usually acquire their powers by one of three ways…

    1. Study: there is magical energy in the world, and it operates by some regular set of principles that can be studied and put in to practical use. The humans who learn to use magic in such a method do not need to be magical on a biological or natural level, in and of themselves, any more than humans need to be radioactive to manipulate nuclear energy. All that is required is sufficient study of the principles by which the “energy fields” operate, and some outside magical source of energy.
    I do not think Kyle falls into this category, as his first use of his powers was accidental. It wasn’t even an instinctive first use of magic due to an emergency, as a form of self-defense. It was an accidental release of magic due to his first orgasm.

    2. Some sort of pact with a magical patron: there are powerful, supernatural entities in the world (or others), and certain agreements can be made to draw magical power from them, and often the knowledge to channel and use said power effectively. Such agreements are usually made by the person desiring said power, and involve giving up something in exchange (their soul, years of their life, a loved one or a cherished possession, personal servitude, etc…). However, it is not unheard of in some cases for such pacts to be made on behalf of others. This is often the case if such power is to be given to a child, who will then be manipulated by an individual or group to use that power. Kyle’s birth parents could have performed a ritual involving Laampros (or another demon/djinn) when Kyle was young, or even while he was still in the womb. Alternatively, a cult worshipping such an entity could have performed the ritual on Kyle after taking him from his parents (or upon his mother while she was pregnant).

    3. Inheritance of magical power from an ancestor: there are magical beings in the world, often a magical subspecies of human or magical beings that can breed with humans, from which a magical character inherits his power by blood. Alternatively, the character might still inherit his power from his parents, but NEITHER of his parents are human, and he’s simply taken human form all his life (knowingly or unknowingly). Kyle may very well be the son/descendant of Laampros or another being like him.

    Both the second and third methods could be consistent with Kyle’s instinctive nature of his abilities. I wonder where Alex will go with this.

    • Vincent

      Hmm, as for #2 I think Laampros would recognize someone using his own magic if they came into his world. He stated himself that he is keenly aware of what happens within his world. He also mentioned protections around the human world so I assume his ability to interact with anyone within said protected world is limited if not prohibited, making it hard to believe he was able to form any type of contracts, this is also assuming he has that kind of power. Though it is reasonable to assume that any wards could have “cracks” and someone could potentially take power from another world without even knowing it. If Kyle’s ability is to actually draw on the power of some alternate dimension it would explain why Kyle was the target as well as the never answered “Where does that fire go when he absorbs it?”. It would also mean that as long as any wards were up, the amount of power Kyle could draw was limited and he could potentially set the world on fire. Literally. But this is getting way to complicated and is making me dizzy-so moving on!
      At the moment it seems Kyle’s power may be inherent and the Annihilator simply manipulated Kyle into letting him control them, since the ritual required Kyle’s complete trust. The question that comes to mind is what is the true nature of Kyle’s power? It appears to be the generation and manipulation of fire. However, that is never explicitly stated. It could be some thing much more complicated, like Kyle is able to summon and control fire from Laampros’ dimension, which would explain why he was used as a catalyst to break the wall between worlds if he could already bypass the protections in some way. It could also be that Laampros is some sort of fire elemental, this hell-scape is some kind of freaky fire plane and Kyle was just used because he can control fire and was some how attuned to that plane and had no prior connection to Laampros or his world at all. Though if Kyle was in any way magical, I would think Spooky would have picked up on it in some way. Then again maybe not…
      Then again-again, Alex may not be following any of those 3 things at all, decide to just throw out all of this and come up with some thing completely unique, ridiculous or both. Like Kyle’s ass is the backdoor (pun intended) to another world and if he didn’t relax and trust the The Annihilator, it would never open. Or this whole story is the dream of small dog.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Very nice analysis.

  • SofiaT

    I believe the wings are supposed to look like that. It’s the same “leathery” texture they had on the previous page -I thought it was pretty cool-looking.

  • vessto

    We can’t see it.:( It was commented below and someone ever brightened this panel so to be visible this crotch is just a mirage in our minds… Nice mirage though.;)

    • CH

      Think he meant Kyle’s actually.

      • vessto

        Ahhh, ok.:)

  • KaelemGaen

    I dunno, this is a demon we’re working with, chances are he is going to try and Harm Kyle, and Annihilator seemed to have gone out of his way to keep Kyle from getting PHYSICALLY harmed… (Clearly he doesn’t give two flying monkeys about emotional harm but he is a bad guy.) So I’m wondering if this demon tries to Physically harm Kyle how he will react.

    • Nice!

    • Hesthea

      Maybe Kyle has some connection to Lammos. Since only by using him and him alone, Anni could have an audience with the demon lord.

      • TheManBehindTheCurtain

        Well since we know Laampros has engaged in human sex before, and Anni said if Kyle wasn’t gay then the Platinum Priestess would have seduced him, MAYBE Kyle is a distant descendant of Laampros and hence the secret nature of his powers and connection to Laampros’s home dimension.

        • vessto

          Mortal pleasure may mean eating too. *shudders*

          • Hesthea

            The way Lamproos looks at Kyle and touches his body, doesn’t seem the cannibalistic kind of hunger you’re referring to. 😉

          • vessto

            I just said this is also an option for a mortal pleasure.:)

          • Hesthea

            Sorry, i misunderstood it then. And yes, you’re certainly right about that one x)

        • Hesthea

          That is what i think, TheManBehindTheCurtain =)

        • Adam Black

          ooow, good theory

  • MeatyStakes

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

    • TwilightDreamer

      rofl! yeah, still not exactly sure where this is going either 😛

    • WarGoddess

      Romeo Oscar Foxtrot Lima!! XD

  • okay so this camping thing…are we prohibited from doing anything in particular outside of general rude and obnoxious behavior? like can we start discussions on other maybe related comics and can we link to them? or is that was too much excitement?

    • Each night of camping is different from the last. We’ve talked about all sorts of things. Last time it was about full sized body pillows and which image of Duncan or Kyle would be best.

    • SofiaT

      “Too much excitement”??

      I do not know the meaning of this.

      • i find for me, too much excitement means, i end up saying or doing something that disturbs others.

  • vessto

    I always love to imagine how manga/comics characters would look in rl. After few days of deep thinking and half-day Google images browsing here I have my suggestions:

    Duncan/Anni:

    Kyle:

    Or also see this image for other Kyle options:

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vessto/18271728/90844/90844_600.jpg

  • Klaus

    Where does the unusual nature of Kyle’s powers come in? Was it necessary for the spell to work? Sircea said that she does not understand “the old rules”, so I find that unlikely. Is it Duncan’s ace in the hole dealing with Laampros?

  • AliceVenturi

    So. Which side of the “protections surrounding your world” are they on now? Is this Laampros’ world? Or is Laampros in our world? Or does piercing the protections allow Laampros’ world to extend into ours, like a bubble? Or vice versa?

    And, oh my, it does look like a very good time for Kyle to keep very, very still & very, very quiet.

    • Ali

      I think they’re in Laampros’ world. In the first panel he says “there is nothing that happens here without my allowing it”. So I’m guessing he’s the guy in charge in that hell-hole/world they’re in.

    • TheManBehindTheCurtain

      Kyle cannot say anything even if he wanted too, as Anni explained a couple pages ago.

      • Adam Black

        I hope that changes to Duncans surprise. I think he and Laampros will get along well.

  • Cman65

    Two words “MORE LUBE”

    • vessto

      Or “MORE SAUCE” if the interest of Laampros is rather culinary (eating is a mortal pleasure, I know best ;)).

      • KryX

        Perverse, I love it. Can that be chocolate sauce, please?

        • vessto

          Indeed I imagined spicy tomatoe sauce but because you loved my idea I am agree to change it to chocolate sauce.:)

          • KryX

            Let’s compromise and go for a mole sauce.

          • vessto

            I dunno what this means but I agree as long as it is a compromise variant.;)

          • KryX

            Mole is a savory sauce made with chiles and chocolate, no sugar. Next time you go to a good Mexican restaurant, look for it on the menu. It’s usually with chicken or Pork, the other white meat.

          • vessto

            That’s interesting!! I never thought such combination exsist. The only similar thing I’ve ever eaten is Dark Chocolate with Chili.

  • davefragments

    I think this Wednesday that we’re going to find out what Duncan wants. OR at least the start of what Duncan wants. He’s a talkative villain.

    He’s pierced a barrier between worlds to gain either knowledge or power. We know he doesn’t want sex. He had sex and gave it up. That’s why he seduced Kyle. He used sex as a lure to cast the spell.

    Sex, power, money — what else is there? (chocolate covered anything?)

    Kyle’s mistake was to let down his guard and that is what Laampros means by a — small bit of flesh that makes them so weak — Kyle is powerful enough to break the protections that either imprison Laampros or isolate the Earthly realm and Lammpros understands that power. Duncan can’t open the barrier. He isn’t powerful enough.

    SO what will be (or has been) Duncan’s big mistake?
    I think I know what the last act is going to be.

    • I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we begin to learn the madness behind the plan or at least part of the plan.

      As for Duncan’s mistake? You can’t plan for every contingency as much as Duncan may think he has. I think he’ll have underestimated Kyle. I’m hoping instinct (power related) might kick in for our little hero.

      • davefragments

        I”m thinking more Grecian or Shakespearean flaw and that type of tragedy. I don’t think it’s fair to play a spoilerific guessing game about the ending. It’s more fun to read the story as if appears.

        WE know that King Leer and Lord Hidetora had one dumb ideal that plunged their worlds into ruin. Macbeth had his ambition and his flaws. Lady Macbeth cracked under a guilty conscience. Oedipus his pride and Antigone her duty.

        By now we know that Duncan and Kyle share an epic adventure and that one will rise while the other falls.

        I am along for the ride.

        • Unless they are bound together in some fashion, by purpose or accident. As for flaw of course that would be Duncan’s arrogance and thirst for power, and Kyle’s seeking the good in others.

          But whatever may fall or rise, begin or end, I too am along for the ride.

          • Saxon_Brenton

            Davefragments, SophiaT, AdminralJane – that is a brilliant collective interpretation, and I cannot fanboy squee enough over it. But if Young Protectors is a Greek drama style mediation on personal flaws (in a superhero context) then the question remains: Is this going to be a comedy (ending in a wedding) or a tragedy (ending in a funeral)?

          • SofiaT

            A tragicomedy 😀

          • I was going to say a tromedy! But I hedged my bets.

          • SofiaT

            Well, regardless of how it ends, this story has already exhibited both tragic and comic elements so tragicomedy would be the best way to describe it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragicomedy

            And we know that the story will end ok for Kyle if not for Duncan so… yeah.

          • so what would that end in? a divorce?

          • That’s a good question. I think at this point, for me, I have no idea what it’s going to end up. It might not end in either way.

          • vessto

            *squees too* I’d adore if it ends with wedding, like in The Authority!!!!

          • Steven Klimecky

            A fitting ending (though not the happiest) would have Duncan eventually realizing a deep down affection for Kyle that he has been repressing, etc., but later comes to realize and accept, and finally making the ultimate sacrifice – giving up his life to save Kyle, thus redeeming himself. Or perhaps earlier on, Kyle, out of his instinct to do good and help people, somehow risks his own life and manages to use his own powers to rescue Duncan out of a perilous situation, and Duncan is dismayed. I doub that Duncan at the moment cares much for Kyle (or he would not have gone through with things in the manner we saw), but I think that if Kyle were to carry out some heroic altruistic act for Duncan, then he’d have all kinds of conflicting thoughts and emotions, such as “Kyle – you did that for me? You risks your own life to save mine? After all the horrible and wretched things I put you through?” And perhaps this is what finally trigger’s Duncan’s inner realization of his feelings for Kyle, and outward change of heart toward him. Although, I think it would still be damn’d near impossible for Kyle to ever trust Duncan again, unless Duncan were to carry out some act of self-sacrifice (of some sort) on Kyle’s behalf. It would be awesome if Duncan were to find himself in a very tricky or life-threatening situation with Laampros, and Kyle, out of fear and anger and an instinct for self-preservation, suddenly goes over the edge and ends up, as some of you have used the term for a major eruption of power from Kyle, “going supernova” – and ending up destroying any enemies, and transporting himself and Duncan back to their more mundane reality/realm.

          • WarGoddess

            Hmm, I don’t know, but if you have ever heard of a wonderfully tragic story called the Divine Comedy, the entire thing was about a man being dragged through all of the realms of hell, and then finally being reunited with his lady love in paradise at the end. Despite the tragic nature of the tale, it was called a comedy solely because it had a happy ending. So, TYP could be relatively tragic throughout, but end happily, thus making it into a comedy. It could also go the opposite route and end as a tragedy, but I’m sincerely hoping that we do not reach that point. Sure, we can take all the detours possible down that path, but as long as Kyle is happy in the end, I will be happy too. 😀

            Also, if you’ve ever read my comments, you will know that I am an avid Redilator, with a rather unhealthy obsession with a certain silver haired supervillain. I know he’s the bad guy, and he has been doing the scummiest things, but I want him to end up happy as well. 😀

          • davefragments

            The Pittsburgh Symphony opened its season with Carl Orff’s CARMINA BURANA and I still hear the words of the opening and closing song FORTUNA IMPERITRIX MUNDI.

            “Oh fortune, ever changing like the moon”

          • Hi, other Pittsburgher!

          • Steven Klimecky

            Would have loved to see that – I’d never pass up an opportunity to see Carmina Burana performed – or anything else by Orff. Have you been to a performance of either of the other pieces in the trilogy – “Catulli Carmina” or “The Triumph of Aphrodite”?

          • davefragments

            I haven’t seen Catulli or Aphrodite. This is the second time I’ve seen the PSO do CARMINA BURANA. It is a spectacle. The Baritone was a delight and the soprano was heavenly.
            The Pittsburgh Ballet Theater did the Ballet but I couldn’t get tickets. they have a large rotating clock-like gear above the dancers for FORTUNA as it opens and closes the cantata.

            It is the WHEEL OF FORTUNE and symbol of FATE as both giving and taking.

        • SofiaT

          If it’s a tragic flaw you’re looking for, I’d say Duncan’s so far has been hubris. He has rejected the need for sentiments in an absolute way; and only gods can be so absolute. He considers himself above the need for human companionship and affection. Again, only gods can claim that.

          From what we know about hubris, it’s always followed by hatei (blindness to ones mistakes), nemesis (justice) and tisis (punishment) in a way that’s appropriate for the crime -I think falling in love with Kyle will be a heck of a karma kick for dear Anni and I’m waiting for it with glee.

          Hubris has been a crime of Duncan’s for some time now. We’ve already witnessed hatei, when he had the chance to change his plans and didn’t, and instead he reaffirmed his beliefs that emotions make you weak. So nemesis can’t be that far behind. Duncan is going to “fall”, that’s a certainty.

          And hopefully, his fall with allow him finally to open his eyes and find katharsis -to be cleansed and redeemed.

          Team Redilator is not about a HEA where Kyle & Duncan walk together into the sunset (although I wouldn’t mind for that to happen with enough convincing twists and turns), it’s about both Kyle and Duncan finding katharsis.

          So I’ll continue to hope and wait for that and yeah, definitely enjoying the ride in the meantime. 🙂

          • Steven Klimecky

            I like your analysis through the lens of the classical drama.

          • Adam Black

            I’m sensing you have turned your boat in a different direction.

            That explanation was far too eloquent for me to me to do more than cheer on.

          • SofiaT

            Turned my boat or yours? Because I remain captain of the Redilator 😀

          • I haven’t recalled any change in wind.

          • Adam Black

            Your boat.

            I’m on dry land.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I think Duncan wants it all along with eternal youth and immortality. I think Duncan has already made his big mistake; trying to cut a deal with a demon. It always ends in the demon’s favor, pretty much.

    • strangeangel24601

      Sexy chocolate-covered power?

      • davefragments

        well, psychology says there are three drivers for people and their actions. I think Chocolate is the fourth.
        😉
        If I were listening to me say those things, I know I would have made the remark about chocolate just to be a smart-ass.

        • strangeangel24601

          Great minds think alike!

  • WarGoddess

    I put a spell on yooouuu…and now you’re mine!! XD lol I love that movie, it’s one of the two live-action Halloween movies I actually like! The other is Casper…. 😀

  • Plum Soda

    THIS! XD

  • WORST. BIRTHDAY. EVER.

    • Denise Cruz

      No doubts about it! At all!

      • Someone downvoted me, so obviously they think bondage, a trip to hell, and a massive scary demon practically sexually assaulting you while a giant floating eyeball watches in the sky is their idea of a good time!

        • Denise Cruz

          XDDD I don’t think so, David! XDD
          Don’t worry about it!
          There is someone downvoating people around since last week..Doesn’t matter what’s writen in the comment.
          I think it’s some sad person who wants some kind of attention and can’t get it in any other way. Just ignore it! XD

        • Feverfew_M

          Either that or they meant to say they’ve had worse?! O_O

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    Beyond Anthology is looking for contributors for the greatest queer sci-fi/fantasy comics of all time. They’re looking for comics about LGBTQ heroes that are not overly tragic or x-rated. Submissions open Oct 15th. I know YP probably isn’t going to be finished by then but perhaps they’d be interested in Artifice.

    http://beyondanthology.com/about

  • Tina

    Ugh… had a very terrible day at work today… new update tonight kept me going though!

    • Denise Cruz

      I’m sorry, sweetheart! >~< My day wasn't great, too… I had a BAD, BAD headache all day long… Couldn't even pay enough attention to my violin teacher, at the end of the evening…
      Well, at least, we'll have the new update! ^v^ (I'm still not sure if I'm gonna get camping with you, guys, tonight, although. Headache… Hunf!!)

      • Tina

        I’m still training and I keep getting yelled at because I get left alone to do a tremendous amount of tasks and I just can’t keep up by myself. Towards the middle of the day I just get tired and frustrated and lose all concentration.

        • Denise Cruz

          Who was the freaking idiot who yelled at you? Doesn’t he/she know it’s already very hard doing too many tasks alone, without having some stupid moron yelling at you all day long?! *throws a bunch of crap at his/hers face.*

          I really sorry about it, honey!
          Are you at least a little better right now?
          Lets hope that tomorrow can be a great day for you.

          AND that Alex gives some good reason to be happier tonight, uhn?! 😉

          • Tina

            Pretty much everyone above me. Sometimes I feel like Cinderella. I do everything in my power not to break down right in front of them.

            Mmm yeah a bit. Sleep and food helped a little but then I’m reminded its only Wednesday…

            Heheh yes he does.

          • Denise Cruz

            Well… Just remember that they are only stupid people who can’t handle stressful moments without yelling at someone else. It’s not your fault!

            I, unfortunatelly, couldn’t wait the update… Was too tired,and my head started spinning, so.. bedtime.

            I’m gonna read it, now.

            Have a nice Wednesday, beautiful! 😉 I hope it’s better day than yesterday!

          • Tina

            Your comment made me smile. Today was a much better day at work and even my manager apologised for all the stress.

          • Denise Cruz

            That’s great to hear! Thanks God!! 😀
            I’d started thinking about your co-workers as selfish- morons… You don’t deserve work with such creatures!
            I’m glad it was better! ^v^ (and that I don’t need thinking about them like this anymore! XD)

  • Amanda

    Who wants a hug?!?!?!?!?

    • SofiaT

      I never say no to a hug.
      Unless they come from old aunties I haven’t seen in 25 years. I try to avoid those.

      • Amanda

        Yeah those can be awkward. I am also creeped out by the older creepy gentleman hug.

        • Denise Cruz

          Eeks!!

        • SofiaT

          True dat.

        • KryX

          I resemble that remark.

        • Adam Black

          What is that?

    • Tina

      I’ll take a hug! And a glass of white wine

    • Steven Klimecky

      How about a Xanax?

    • I’m ready for a hug now that my headache is beginning to wane.

  • Airboy Obsessed

    SMALL bit of flesh? >___>

  • Uugh.. what a day I’ve had, and to top it off I have such a headache right now.
    Reading a couple of the latest comments and I’m clearly not the only one. Should we have a group hug or something? xD

    • Denise Cruz

      A group hug would be great! (Maybe we could use a good glass of vokda too! Just saying… XD)

      • I think a glass of vodka would have me throwing up all over the place right now.. so maybe not. I’ll leave the alcohol for you guys 🙂

        • Denise Cruz

          Did you take some medicine already?
          It probably wouldn’t be the best choice for me, too.
          Maybe something hot, then… some light tea? (once here’s sooo frozen and rainy tonight..) What do you think?

          • Yeah, I’ve taken a couple of pills to see how they work. I don’t want to be too tired for the upload 🙂 A cup of tea sounds good and you should do that. I probably will later. I just look forward to next week. These last couple of weeks have been horrible for various reasons. I just look forward to the next week now.

          • Denise Cruz

            That makes two of us, my friend! ^v^

            The last 10 or 12 days have been so hard on me, too. Specially this last week. I almost can’t wait for Monday…

            At least we have found out something good to wait for, uhn?! These updates enlighten my days! ^v^

            Anyway… how’s your headache going?Improving?

            My keeps going back and forth,uninterruptedly. but, at least, it’s less strong, right now… 🙂

    • Just took some aspirin with cup of coffee myself.

      • Adam Black

        We are seriously going to have to trade some of your familys roasted coffee for my hot fudge recipe.

    • Sapfo

      Hug dear Wolf? I´ll hug you ^_^

    • Adam Black

      I have some spare hugs—-but the only size mine come in is BearHugs.
      Its one-size fits all, but guaranteed to leave you hugged out— or you can return it for free.

      • Well sometimes a bear hug is really what you need to make a day better 🙂

        • Adam Black

          (((((( Bear Hugg ))))))

    • HUGS!! *glomp*

  • silibub

    Ah yes, Tuesday night, time to drink and get emotional while I camp for the new page

    Heh, I’m looking at the way Duncan holds his hand up in the second panel, like he wants to pull Laampros back — maybe he really will try to divert Big Red’s attention from Kyle. Orrrr he just doesn’t like being left hanging in a reverential pose. Whatever!

  • Adam Black

    Sadly, I must depart and rough the cold cruel night in search of sustenance for the ungrateful felines. Save me a seat at the campground

    • All we ever ask is a small thank you and not even a tail flick of appreciation.

      • Adam Black

        im back!

        ( Perhaps, not exactly gratitude, but I think I now know what: ‘How-can-you-disappear-and-leave-the-everfull-bowl-empty, Servant2Cats’ sounds like in Mreuwish )

        • In safe from the cold having traveled uphill both ways with wind and snow thirty miles, but only so as long as you got their preferred food they just might flicker a whisker of pleasure or if you’re really lucky a quick purr. 😀

          I miss having kitties.

          • Adam Black

            It was uphill one way, with a twenty pound bag.

            You can rent one of mine,

            Do you want the peaceful bedhogging biter or the whiny cuddling bearcat ?

          • Are you certain it wasn’t both ways with a broken leg and a hundred pound bag?

            How is a biting bedhog peaceful?

  • jreed3842

    Hello all! I’ll be back in a bit! I’ll certainly be camping! Gotta get some homework done! Then I will join you all around the campfire!

  • WarGoddess

    For some reason, I was unable to get myself to fall asleep until late last night, so since I am about to drop my phone from exhaustion, I shall set my alarm for 12:05am my time, go to sleep, and hope the update rears its smiling hellish head at me. (I say this because the next page should still have that beautiful hell landscape.) Until then, adieu! I shall snooze! Save me some S’mores, please! 😀

    • Sapfo

      Even Goddesses need their sleep! I save you some S´mores… Oh yes I will save you some. Muahahaha “_”

    • Don’t worry about the s’mores, I have a secret stash.

  • Jamie Dutton

    Ok, I’ve tried reading the comments for this page and to tell ya the truth, I just flat out gave up. If I were Alex I would be really tempted to take virtual matches and burn this particular section….but that’s just my opinion.
    Apparently once Alex took us to this Hellscape, we all lost our collective minds! Not in a funny, let’s put on the Benny Hill music way either.
    I’m very worried now, not just about what direction these next pages are going, but the comments seem to be going downhill fast.
    I think we need to be really careful from this point that we don’t get too out of hand. I really don’t want this to devolve into the troll infested slog that is most internet forums and comment sections.

    • Sapfo

      Don´t feed the troll and don´t be a troll. The first one can be debated the second on is a thing that I will try to live after.

      • Jamie Dutton

        That’s some good advice. I try to follow it myself.

    • silibub

      yeah…not the majority of the commenters by far, but there have been some gross remarks and overall I just wish the term “rape” wasn’t thrown around so casually. Alex hasn’t been as much of a presence in the comments section lately either (probably because there are so many and he’s really busy), and I think that may have something to do with it as well. But!! I still like this discussion section more than any other! There are a lot of cool, intelligent, and articulate people here, esp the regulars, and I think the emotionally charged nature of this scene has just gotten some people worked up. This is a wonderful group!

      • It’s true that I haven’t been able to be as much a part of the comment section for the last few pages as I’d like to be. And you’re right that it’s because I’ve just been crazy swamped the last couple weeks. :/ (And yes, I suppose also because there are about 5x as many… lol )

        But I do read every single comment and I want to say that I really appreciate all the good energy y’all put into making this comment section a fun and thoughtful place for all commenters. And I always appreciate your kind words. They mean the world to me.

        This really is a wonderful group and even when I can’t participate as much as I’d like, it’s always so great to read your amazing insights into the work that make me feel like what I’m trying to do here is really being understood. (And I often I learn cool stuff—that whole tragicomedy Wikipedia article was a big mind opener! 🙂 )

        Anyway, it’s connecting with this wonderful group that makes all the hard work worth it. And I appreciate all the time and positive effort y’all put into this comment section to make it so special. Maybe our popularity will mean some growing pains, but I know if anyone can keep this comment section a special, thoughtful place, it would be y’all. 🙂

        And when things settle down in my world in a couple weeks, I do look forward to being much more of a presence again.

      • Jamie Dutton

        It still is a good place and I look forward to reading the theories and discussions from most everyone. But I just noticed that it skewed into some strange, slightly scary place on this page and I got worried.
        I’m glad no one thinks I’m blowing stuff out of proportion. Maybe we let our guard down a bit and stuff started to slide?
        Anyway can’t wait to see the next page, even if I have to look through my fingers lol.

    • Oh no, now you’re scaring me. I haven’t had much time to dwelve into the comment section lately so I know I’ve missed a lot. I hope it won’t slowly turn bad.
      I’ve seen that happen more than once when a comic get popular and the comment section ‘explode’. It will make people leave and stop reading comments and it will take a while before the comment section goes back to normal. Just look at Teahouse (for the ones who’s familiar with that comic). That one comment section took a bad hit during some months not long ago. Good thing is that it’s getting better again, far less trolls now, but the amount of comments now is less than half of what it used to be for a while.

    • Hiroshi

      You know what? Sometimes I try to avoid the comments too, cause there are people who thinks that they know best.
      Point is, many of them forgot that this is a comic created by someone else, and not them! I have seen so many comments before (not only this comic) where people starts commenting on, “Oh I think this is what happens….” “Oh this is gonna be what’s next…” I contribute some myself! I mean, we all love to speculate. That is what makes everything so sexciting.
      But some people take it further, and when it doesn’t happen, when it is not according to what they think is good or right, they say “Oh I’m quitting on this”, “Oh this is not what I thought it is! It’s terrible!”. They make it sound like they had a part in it, or it’s theirs!
      Guys, give credits for the creator to come up with such a plot. If everything goes according to what you think or what you want, which most probably half the world’s population could come to that assumption too, then won’t all comics be so boring?!
      Like what others say, don’t troll, be nice and read on. Give Alex our biggest support too! 🙂

  • Sapfo
  • I’m back from a 12-hour work day (my second in a row) and just now working on the page, but I think it’s likely to be an hour away at least. Just a heads up to my beloved campers for those of you who need to get up early. 🙂

    • Alex, if you need some sleep just say so and upload the page later after that. We won’t die from getting a page up later than usual.

      • Sapfo

        Almost want to say No, but Danish is right.

        • You’re very sweet, but tomorrow is another 12 hour day starting bright and early. And I just couldn’t let y’all down like that. Especially not for a bonus page.

          Sifting the flour right now… 😉

          • Alex Q

            That mindset (along with the awesome writing and art) is why we are dedicated followers. Thanks for all the hard work, and I am sure we all hope you’ll get a well earned break soon to sit back and relax.

          • SofiaT

            I concur.

    • Adam Black

      Alex,

      Kick-back , eat and shower… You’ve got us allnight 😉
      This last page was the most satisfying in months.

    • Tina

      Ew… those hurt. Can I ask is it like a physical labour job that has you lifting heavy things all the time or just a pencil pushing one? (both can be equally gruesome)

  • Taking a risk for the team. I’m gonna be afk and making breakfast 🙂

    • Sapfo

      Yes Danish! You need breakfast 😉

      • Heh.. suuure that’s your reason for saying it 😉
        Anyway, went to bed without dinner so was hungry. Now I’m distracted by food for a while *lol*

        • Sapfo

          I am so innocent that I have no idea what you are talking about 😉

  • davefragments

    the gang is quiet tonight.

    • We do seem to be. It might be all the headaches going around.

      • Adam Black

        what is up with today?

        • I think it might be the changing of the weather.

          At least here in the desert it is. I mean in the last week or so it’s gotten dry, windy and dropped twenty degrees.

          • SofiaT

            It is the change in weather here. Was relatively cold yesterday, freaking hot today and promising close to 40 celsius tomorrow.

            Just got home from 10 hours at work in front of a computer, my head is heavy and yet, here I am, in front of another screen and unrepentant for it!

          • You’re going into summer right? It was brutal here from May-Sept. I’m happy for the cooler weather but it’s changing fast.

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, it’s middle of spring here. Of course when I go to Tasmania in two days, the weather promises to be cold and wet >:(
            Just my luck.

          • Summer started early for us. Normally it doesn’t start getting hot until mid-June/beginning July. Now it seems winter is starting early too.

          • SofiaT — super powers come in all shapes and sizes. The question really is — does anyone other than Solomon understand the true nature of your camping super power or is this mystery yet to be revealed? 🙂

        • I was just re-reading through how many people were struggling before the last page was posted. It’s so helpful when others share that they’re having a rough patch also. Just for the record, so to speak. Much appreciated. 🙂

    • Tina

      For some sad reason I don’t have my enthusiasm for the new page. Don’t get me wrong, I love this comic but I think work took it out of me 🙁

  • SofiaT

    Well, since we’re all here, the usual reminder: don’t forget to vote for the Top Web Comics!

  • Cakecake

    Camping camping camping

  • Page up in 15 minutes or less. 🙂

    • Yay, can’t wait!

    • jreed3842

      Woo-hoo! I was just about to succumb to sleep… I can handle and extra 15 minutes… or less! 😀

      • Tina

        *high fives with dark circles under eyes*

    • And the f5 keys just started weeping.

    • silibub

      Thanks so much for powering through after your long day! I know everyone appreciates it!

    • SofiaT

      Yes! Can’t believe I made it home from work just in time for the update. Thanks Alex!

  • Cakecake

    Has work in the morning. Still online just for this

  • Tina

    Its up!

  • Firebirds1

    You can do it, Alex! I believe!

  • Tina
  • must resist urge to camp for strip…oh…defenses are weak!

  • Nate

    Reasonable, but difficult given Duncan’s power set. Better to burn his hair off. 🙂

    • but…can he? Duncan’s hair is still intact after Kyle went all Firestarter…

  • b3nc0

    Message to Veronica, or Adam, or @alexwoolfson:disqus the wings bits in the last panel appearing between the ones above shouldn’t they be blue-grey like the rest of the wings instead of orangey-red like the background?

  • Holy horrifying hell @.@