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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 35

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  • Sapfo

    Oh my, oh eye, what’s your story, you will tell me

    • Look who did it 😉

      • Sapfo

        Number 1 at being number 2. But not this time 😉
        Hope you feel better tonight!

        • Heh, I should have learned by now not to start writing longer comments jus when an update is near. Same happened last time (was writing reply on SF).
          Going back to bed soon. I’ve been dozing a little while camping. Going to process the page and this new horny being first xD

  • davefragments

    oooh, now we know who belongs to that eye!

  • Creepy DID just get creepier

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Punch him in the face, Laampros! Right in the face!

    • YG_Frenchie

      I just laughed SO hard! Upvote!

      • stickfigurefairytales

        : )

      • Maria White

        I AM A MAN! *punches satan*

        Satan: ….. I admire your courage, here have a cookie!

        • Kellen Connor

          Upvote for the At4W reference, and for confirming that the dark side does indeed have cookies.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Yes!

  • Um…. So, this happened. No one is ever going to believe Kyle.

    • Stubbylegs

      Yeah, they’ll just tell him to say no to drugs next time.

      • Adam Black

        Drugs are bad, mmmkay?

    • Hikaru Takemori

      I think spooky might belive him, especially if he mentions PP being involved.

  • mogoskier

    HI SORTA SATAN, I’m going to go to bed now

  • Klaus

    Blood and pain?

    • stickfigurefairytales

      *Someone’s* exaggerating more than a little.

      • Xalun K

        Oh, I don’t know… blueballs can be pretty excruciating. *snirk*

    • Pain of betrayal. Not sure about the blood.

      • Hikaru Takemori

        Could be just a greeting phrase, I mean this guy has tobe pretty badass for Duncan to kneel before him so Duncan would take care to address this guy properly.

        • Possible. I mean, yeah, there is a proper order of things. Unless it’s metaphorical

  • SofiaT

    THIS is Laampros???
    Oh hell. Literally.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      “Wait, shit, I meant Lapras! Lapras! Damn autocorrect!”

    • Well he seems to be bright and on fire

  • “Dude, I’m just the receptionist.”

  • jreed3842

    Well… Sexy naked demon dude… I’m okay with this. Lol.

  • Sapfo
    • stickfigurefairytales

      Niiiice

    • I know, right?! Deacon’s hand…and Jeff! You go girl!

  • It’s Hellboy’s third cousin.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Incongruously named “Steve”

    • Hikaru Takemori

      Nice, I’m not the only one seeing the resemblance :).

  • Missy_Z

    So… I totally guessed it was going to be some demon summony thing, but this was not exactly what I expected… I mean LOOK AT DAT BEARD! It’s as long as Ani!! I was picturing a more tiny evil goatee. Just shows that Alex always defies expectation in his comic.

  • Acerolo

    And the winners are team demon-summoning. Guess Kyle’s date has really gone to hell in all possible ways.

  • Xalun K

    *WHEW*. Comparatively, this is GOOD news. Very, very good news. Kyle’s just a spell component, LOL!

    Ok, yes… deeply disturbing to the mind of a fairly innocent 18 year old who was just betrayed, chained by his own flames, and caught the express train to Hell.

    Still. Better a spell component than a s’mores.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      On the upside, Laampros looks pretty fire proof and he can’t be a bigger dick than Duncan.

      • He might not be a bigger dick, but it looks like me might have a bigger…thingy smusher

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          Could be worse. Could be the Giant Moon Eyeball. You know that things got to be attached to something.

      • Xalun K

        Of course not… I mean, at least you can always count on a demon to be a big giant evil dick. It’s what they do.

      • Sapfo

        Oh, I would take that as a challenge! Show us Laampros! Are you?

      • Steven Klimecky

        He might HAVE a bigger (big giant evil) dick than Duncan. Kyle could smush his whole body, not just his thingy, against that demon’s thingy. I desperately hope he doesn’t have to smush ANYTHING of his against anything of the demon’s though. I hope Laampros prefers evil, silver-haired types.

        • Adam Black

          Isn’t Kyles favorite color red?

          Maybe the sexxiness to come is consensual.

          IF not, there is a spell for that.

      • Adam Black

        o I wouldnt be so sure

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          Well, he’s practically full frontal up there in panel 3 and unless his pubes are particularly hedge-like, I’d say he’s significantly less of a dick than Duncan.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Nah – it’s just long and limp – could be hangin down to his knees and with that shadow we wouldn’t be able to tell at the moment.

        • Many ‘animals’ fully retract their genitalia for battle and then extrude it during mating season… erm… just speculating. Hey, there could be a LOT of extrusion if the motivation is right. 😀

    • Steven Klimecky

      Potentially offering Kyle to a demon for what additional unspeakable acts – good news??? And not being able to speak throughout the ordeal helping to keep him alive …this is about as wretched a thing to happen as can possibly be, if he is indeed made an offering.

      • Xalun K

        See, that’s the thing… I really, truly don’t believe Kyle is an offering in any way, shape, or form. Just a tool for Anni/PP to use.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Hope you are correct!

          • Xalun K

            Think about it… In the strip before last, Anni specifically said that the paralysis and inability to speak would be what kept him alive. If he were to be an offering, I doubt that reassurance would have been there.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yeah – unless that’s to keep him from screaming and ranting and flailing around and making “contact” difficult and going mad while being schtupped by Mr. L.

          • Adam Black

            He’s in hell.

            You should “give up all hope” and assume the worst by now.

            It will make the next month easier on you.

            You are still on “bargaining”.

          • SofiaT

            I’m tempted to put a bet with you and I’m not a betting woman usually… Also, us shippers don’t expect to be justified in the next month, or even the next 6 months.

            For that reason, we’re not fretting much.

          • Steven Klimecky

            “Lasciate ogni speranza voi che’entrate!”

          • When is the ‘acceptance’ stage again?

          • I doubt Alex would ever go this route. I cannot see that he would ever have his character raped, let alone use rape to forward the plot.

          • SofiaT

            I second that. No. Way. In. Hell.

            Pun so intended.

          • It really bothers me that this would even be expected.

          • SofiaT

            Me too. Thankfully Alex WoG’d about an hour ago he would never take this or any other comic of his there, so now the speculations & fear of it can stop.

            For me it was always a non-issue but I’m glad it’s now official.

          • I’m really glad to hear he WoG’d it. I never thought he would go there, even more so knowing that he WoG’d that Kyle would not be dying.
            I’ts awful that that’s the first thing to pop into people’s mind, but that’s part of what I was getting at in my post on the other page. It’s such a part of society that it’s… yeah.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Except that what has happened so far has been a terrible violation of trust and body and mind and certainly a dark act of nonconsensual abusiveness, as ChrisD. has described so well, that we’ve been almost to that point already, and so such fearful speculation is not coming out of left field.

          • Adam Black

            Right. Cuz Duncan can be believed and trusted.

          • SofiaT

            When he has nothing to lose by telling the truth, yes. Why not?

          • Xalun K

            Dude, he’s a villain, not a pathological liar. Once his purpose was served, there was no point in lying anymore. Might as well make things easier on himself *and* the kid then.

      • Adam Black

        You are such an optimist.
        Already you are asuming Kyle doesnt have his sweet Virigin ass passed around in hell.

        Who knows how many hell-creatures will plant themselves in kyle as a host?

        • Steven Klimecky

          No – that’s what I’m worried about – something exactly like that. Seems rather plausible under the circumstances. But thanks for enhancing the fear for me.

  • Sheva Bree

    I am the Annihilator and over there is my gift to you. Enjoy. >.>

  • MaddieHatter

    What the Hell… Why did he summon a demon this is bad, very, very bad

  • I swear if he asks for three wishes… Looks a little like the bad genie in Aladdin.

    • Dante Anton Walt

      You mean Jafar? And yeah, he kinda does, doesn’t he xD

      • That’s right, Jafar! It’s been awhile since I last saw it, but I remember that guy.

        • Dante Anton Walt

          The only reason why I remember is because I was forced to watch Alladin and all of the sequels by 2 little girls… while I read/watched gay porn… As I was sitting in between them… That was not the best decision I ever made.

          • Probably not.
            “Hey what’s that?”
            “Um..” 😛

          • Dante Anton Walt

            Thank god their attention doesn’t waver from Alladin xD

          • I don’t blame them for that.

          • Adam Black

            what porn?

          • Dante Anton Walt

            Well, obviously YP. Then Starfighter (they had an update that day), and I decided to re-read all of it, and once I was done with that, I googled gay porn, found a bunch of sites for it, and clicked on one. I don’t remember the name, but all of the videos weren’t thought out, mostly just sex, no plot or anything.

            I am sooo not one of those people that watches porn for the porn, but for the plot line.

          • Adam Black

            I was just wondering what porn mashes well with Alladin

          • Dante Anton Walt

            None, I just didn’t want to watch Alladin xD

          • Adam Black

            “whole new world” seems apropro

    • WarGoddess

      Genie: “Rock ’em rock ’em rock ’em rake, stick that sword into that snake!”
      Jafar: “You ssstay out of thissss!”
      Genie: “Jafar, Jafar, he’s our man, if he can’t do it, GREAT!” LOL XD

  • Tina

    Laampros… that name still seems very familiar somehow…

    So… Duncan’s literally making a deal with the devil huh? *salutes sinking ship* fare thee well SS Redillator. I knew thee well

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    So…it looks like Kyle is going to be making a new friend this weekend.

    • Steven Klimecky

      If Kyle gets raped by a giant demon after all the rest he’s already been through, I think I’m gonna be right outta here.

      • Tina

        Yeah I somehow don’t think that’ll be happening based on Alex’s Word of God a few days ago. And if he tried, I can see Duncan doing a little… manscaping >:3

      • Adam Black

        You are going to miss all the fun, then.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Let me brush up on my dark arts and then I can set you up for some of that as well then, if that be your idea of fun 😉

    • Niggle

      Omg, I love your name. XD

  • silibub

    Ah…told by whom? Does Sircea have this guy over for tea on the regular or something? And has she pointed out to him that his head is on fire? No wonder he looks pissed.

    So it was a summons, of a sort, although I would have expected Duncan to call Laampros to him and not the other way around. This is kind of the “mountain to Mohammed” approach.

    Meanwhile Kyle’s just…internally freaking out, I guess. This has to suck so hard. The only way this date could go further to hell — considering it looks like they’re literally already there — is if it turns out Satan’s cousin here is Kyle’s father or something equally whack. (Do kids these days still say “whack”? I’m getting old.)

    • “Hey, is that my kid over there?”
      “Um…”
      “You used, MY kid?”
      “Um… He doesn’t look like you.”
      “Yeah, he takes after his mother.”

      • silibub

        “Naked, huh. Just like his old man!” *wipes a boiling paternal tear from his eye*

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        “You’re dating my kid?”
        “Um…”
        “You’re not dating my kid?”

        • Hikaru Takemori

          As nice as it is to imagine Laampros to be Kyle’s father and having a long nice talk about useing Kyle to get ‘here’ I’m not sure demons are very parentally inclinde.

        • “Why AREN’T you dating my kid?”
          “Wait…”
          “Is he not GOOD enough for you?”
          “Sir, I don’t think this is…um…”

    • Becky

      Possibly he intends to ask for something, and figured humility (i.e. making the trip himself rather than rudely hauling this demon out of his dimension) would be the best first impression. Or maybe this dude is much too powerful to simply be “summoned” like lower beings??

      And I have a nasty feeling that Annihilator’s expectation that word has been sent ahead means he may have some prior acquaintances in Hell…

      • silibub

        That’s a really good point — and for someone who (probably) has no innate magical ability, actually summoning Laampros to him might be beyond Duncan’s scope. I’m guessing that Sircea might have sent word of Duncan’s eventual arrival via demonic minions, but who knows?

  • Steven Klimecky

    And Kyle was shy about showing off his goodies to Duncan – how’s he gonna feel about this?? Shades of big red gay Satan from South Park going on here though.

    • Jamie Dutton

      LOL, OMG, I just got images of this guy busting out in song a la “Little Mermaid” in my head now ><:;

      • Steven Klimecky

        What’s that song that Satan sings in “South Park – Bigger, Longer, and Uncut”? Something like “Up There…”?

        • Jamie Dutton

          Yep that’s the name of it!

          http://youtu.be/Jo4XXm8OUP4

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yeah – y’all need to watch this and note the similarities.

    • Adam Black

      hes going to love it.
      Every young gay dude fantasizes about 3 somes.

  • Sapfo

    Laampros: If you will be my Drogo, then I can be your Daenerys
    Oh for the love of beard! Dothraki here I come!

    (but most likely you are a villain)

    • stickfigurefairytales

      What was your first clue?

      • Sapfo

        That he is a villain or that he is a Dothraki?

        • stickfigurefairytales

          The villain part, sorry. My dry witticism didn’t translate as well through typing.

          • Sapfo

            Well, Mama always told me never to judging by appearances. But when you have large horns and is bright red. it is hard to not do it.

    • Xalun K

      All I got from that was, “Oh Daenerys, will you be my beard?”

      I know that’s not right… LOL

  • Feverfew_M

    Now that’s what I’d call a sexy devil! 😀
    Hm, if Kyle was just a means of transportation to Mr. Laampros’ place of residence, he might indeed get out of this unharmed… Of course if our dear PP “forgot to mention” a little detail, like, he demands payment in human sacrifice or something like that, Anni is facing an interesting dilemma, here…

    • Tina

      That would be an interesting dilemma. Duncan betrays Kyle and PP betrays Duncan. Its an endless cycle of betrayal.

    • Or he demands payment in human sacrifice, Duncan knows this perfectly well, the Big Red Guy does *not* know that the sacrifice isn’t standard-issue (super)human, and we’re back to that Torchwood episode again. :->

      (hand me some more tar and sailcloth, please…)

      • Hikaru Takemori

        Here you go *hands it over*. You need help aplying it?

      • Feverfew_M

        And some nails to go with that? *sigh*
        We are going to cling to the last plank of this ship, if necessary, aren’t we?
        *starts crocheting heart and flower patches for the tattered sails*

  • Klaus

    Why is Li’l Duncan not on the fan art page?

    • WarGoddess

      Oh, Alex said it was in the queue at the moment, but he will post it eventually. 😀

  • Ah, spooky how Spooky foreshadowed this. 🙂
    It’ll be down right uncanny if Duncan needs Laampros to eat a computer that has porn on it. He likely doesn’t know how to delete the history on account of being so ‘old’ and all :).

  • Tina

    Erm… hate to ask a perverted question but where did he get the blood from? I know the pain was Kyle’s emotions but he never um… inserted into Kyle which often causes blood for virgins…

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Rose petals? Everyone made comments that they made the warehouse look like an episode of CSI. Maybe Duncan substituted. Plus, the dude lies a hella lot. Maybe he’s just telling Hellboy’s Second Cousin what he wants to hear.

      • Tina

        Though most incantations or spells are very specific so if it requires a blood sacrifice to work, then it requires blood to work. Though the rose petals would make sense. Duncan could have used blood to make the petals stick to the ground lol

        • It’s possible the rose petals were there to hide the blood. Hey aren’t rose petals romantic? I’ll never look at them the same way.

          • Tina

            He did say there was a lot than what is normal. Though how did he hide the blood smell then?

            Duncan: gah it stinks in here! He’ll know for sure something is up!
            PP: just light a few candles, he’ll never notice the smell!

          • Adam Black

            maybe they were white

          • Really not looking at them the same again.

            Oh hey Duncan, that one needs a little more blood, I can still see the white.

          • Adam Black

            Fresh blood is so pretty.

            But it stains that awful rust.

            If only there was a way to keep that fresh blood color

          • polysorbate 80?

          • Adam Black

            but *who’s* blood?

          • That’s the billion dollar question. Where’s scooby doo and the gang when you need them?

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          They could have been off flowers from their “date” that got crashed by Hunter and Killer. There was some pain and blood shed. Non-lethal levels but still technically it does count.

          • Tina

            Oh that’s an interesting idea. A lot of flowers were scattered that day.

        • Adam Black

          white petals?

    • That’s what I was asking my self. Blood? Unless it was metaphorical.

      • Adam Black

        nosebleeds.

        someguys get them during sex

        • o_o

          One more reason for tissues next to the bed.

          • Adam Black

            no 13

          • There are 13 reasons to have tissues by one’s bed?

          • Adam Black

            There is good luck and there is bad luck. and you have tissues for all occasions.

          • Then would you tell my dog to stop stealing the tissues from their box?

      • SofiaT

        I’m thinking “blood” as in “blood bonds”. As in “family”.
        I got a feeling Kyle might originate from this dimension which is why he was used as a “key”.

        • That would work too. If Kyle is related to one of the denizens of that world or Anni is.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Female virgins, that is …unless there’s a really big …well, you know …going into a very tight …well, you know…..and/or it’s done very roughly, thus causing damage to the …passageway….etc.
      (I.E., no hymen present in a male virgin’s back-door.)

    • Becky

      Possibly “The Walls of Blood and Pain” are barriers they traveled through while shifting to this dimension. Or maybe you are right about the Emotional Pain thing, and the “Wall of Blood” was some sort of trial that A had already completed before moving in on Kyle to set up his “Wall of Pain” and the dimension spell. It could even just be a formal, metaphorical greeting to show resect for a whatever-he-is of this rank.

      (I doubt that a small amount of virgin blood would be major enough to be considered a Wall that can be crossed through into Hell itself. 🙂 )

    • Adi Zeller

      Virgin women, because of the hymen. Not so much in anal intercourse (unless the sex is REALLY rough, and that would be extremely painful)

      • Steven Klimecky

        I guess that’s what I was trying to say below.

        • Adi Zeller

          Right, sorry, must have missed your post. 🙂

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – no problem at all – I was just too shy to say it in as plain terms as you did, so more power to you.

  • Sapfo

    I must have a very dirty mind, but all I can think right now is: THREESOME!

    • Tina

      <..>

      Except Duncan’s not naked anymore!

      • Sapfo

        In my mind he is 😉

        • Tina

          Lol in your mind, he always is

        • You mean he’s ever NOT?

        • Adam Black

          He is—under his clothes

    • Oh puhleeze like you’re alone in that one…. 🙂

    • I’m just as dirty because I was tilting my head trying to see the demon’s… er…tail! His special tail.

  • WarGoddess

    Hmmm….methinks I spot a super nasty nasty villain of epic proportions…:) now take him back with you, Mr. Annihilator sir, and let’s have some fun back on Earth! 😀

  • I really, REALLY wish there was a way to ‘hear’/read Kyle’s inner monologue right now. It’s not every day your first date goes to hell.. almost literally.

    There has to be a LOT of questions racing through his mind right now, mostly starting with a ‘W’: -Why? … -What? … -Who? … etc.

    I know that if I should list the number of questions >I< would have on Kyle's behalf right now this would be a long comment, so I'll just start with my #1 question that I hope we get answered soon: What exactly IS Kyle, and what is his connection to this..demon?, other-worldly god? I've never been more interested in Kyle's origin than I am right now.

    Anni on his knees for this guy. I hope he'll be on his knees for Kyle as well before this comic is over.

    • Steven Klimecky

      And I hope you are correct in that last sentence.

    • Klaus

      I can see it in my mind’s eye: Duncan on his knees before a reclining Kyle, Kyle’s knees on Duncan’s shoulders.

    • Adam Black

      2 pages ago I theorized Kyles real power wasnt fire but as a portal to a fire dimension ( where did that fire go he absorbed? or come from ? )

      and here we are….

      Finally after two comics one of theories are coming true

      • Maria White

        That kinda reminds me of the marvel fic I wrote. Basically Mehpisto has a kid with a human woman, so that he can control and manipulate the kid, since humans are weak.

        What happens is that she gains all his power and since Mephisto is the god of his realm it stands to reason his realm ‘travels’ with him when he leaves it. He can likely impart this upon one of his kids, but knows most of them want his power.
        So what he does is gives the power to the half human, so that he can walk around freely and do evil things, while she is basically walking around with hell quite literally inside of her.

        Heroes go after her, see that she isn’t doing anything evil, and leave, so that not only is she ‘safe’ so is the evil things Mephisto is doing.

        So if I were to bet on something… is it possible that Kyle is… half demon?

        • Adam Black

          maybe

  • amanda

    you know I have no idea what the hell is happening and have no Idea what to say….but…
    but this is the kinda shit superheroes have to deal with to get laid nowadays…

    • Angie Penrose

      LOL!

  • Klaus

    There is a very marked switch in attitude between the last two panels. In panel 4 Duncan acts very humbly. He looks at the ground, and his words are humble. In panel 5 he looks Laampros in the eye, and speaks as if he has a deal with Laampros’ boss. he does not go as far as standing up, though.

    • Stubbylegs

      While he probably is looking him in the eye in the last panel, it could be something else. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’d find it difficult to avert my eyes from the giant demonic cock that would be mere inches/feet away from me. Maybe Duncan feels the same way?

      • Hikaru Takemori

        That is if Laampros has one. Depending where your demon comes from, genitals might not be included.
        But if Laampros has those, I agree with you.

        • Stubbylegs

          It’s 4 in the morning where I am right now. I’m still awake and thinking about demonic genitalia.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Is that good or bad?

    • SofiaT

      I think it might just be his Dunc-iness shining through.

      The man is used being the Alpha, I don’t think it’s easy for him to even pretend to defer to someone else.

      Even if that “someone else” is 12 feet tall, red and horny (this didn’t come out right…)

      • Klaus

        It seems to me that that would be very dangerous. Only underlings are told what to do. Either a more powerful demon told Laampros to expect Duncan, or Sircea has power over him.

        • SofiaT

          You could be right.

          Or Duncan’s end-goal is to be Master of the Universe(s) and his arrogance has already reached epic proportions in preparation for the title. (Mind you, I find arrogant assholes to be very attractive, as long as the arrogance is well-deserved).

          Laampros could be working for a Bigger Bad -maybe acting as a guide in this dimension?- but the mention of his name in both spells makes me think Duncan was coming specifically for him. Plus, he wishes to “seek an audience” with him.

          Maybe whatever favor Duncan is about to ask will be very beneficial for Laampros too and Duncan can’t help but show he knows this?

          • Klaus

            No doubt Duncan’s business is with Laampros. I just think that he has had someone with some degree of power over Laampros order him to cooperate.

          • SofiaT

            Very possible. The question is who? Sircea? And if Sircea could already communicate with this world, or have any degree of power over demons in another dimension, what did they need Kyle for?

          • Wait, Duncan wants to be He-Man!?

          • Double wait!!! You mean Duncan’s arrogance can get larger. We were already hiring a little motorized cart just to haul around his extra arrogance. Sheeeet, if I have to tell them to return it and buy the next size up, the budget people are going to have fits… super villain or no super villain. Sh*t costs money.

            Oh dear. Dunc. Dunc. Dunnnc.

          • Has he out grown Battle Cat then?

  • Jamie Dutton

    Um, is anyone else as confused as I am? I think I got lost between the binding, the giant floaty eyeball, and this dude flying in out of nowhere. Can I borrow somebody’s cliff notes?

  • OMG the Duncan apologists are going to have to do some serious YOGA this week. Good night kids!

    • Klaus

      Don’t judge a book by its cover. Laampros has so far done nothing to show that he is evil.

      Though I would be most surprised if he is not.

      • LOL… my contortionist point is made! And now for the downward facing dog. 🙂

    • Hikaru Takemori

      I try to find good reasons for Duncans doing, but you are right at the moment finding those good reasons is quite hard. I may take a break though and just let more pages come in for more information on what the hack is going on.

      P.S.: I’m still on board the Radilator.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Better to be on “The Flying Dutchman” right about now.

        • Hikaru Takemori

          Probably, but I made my decision to stay on board, for better or for worse.

    • Angie Penrose

      No problem. 🙂 I’m guessing you haven’t read a whole lot of mainstream romance? Setting The Guy up to look evil and then twisting it all around at the end, explaining everything perfectly, was a pretty common trope back in the day. I can think of a few different ways of spinning this so Duncan comes out just fine, and I’m still leaning in that direction for this story.

      Angie

      • SofiaT

        I wouldn’t say he can come out “just fine” in the end, but I’m sure he will make the best of the situation and end up on top anyway (no pun intended).

        Maybe we’ll finally see him with his hair out of place! 😀

    • Adam Black

      Every guy Ive dated has taken me to a hell dimension.
      Only one was possesed

    • SofiaT

      Apologise? There’s nothing to apologise for!

      First an earth-shattering (literally) orgasm and then a surpirse vacation at an exotic location… this is turning out to be one HOT date for Kyle! ;D

      • LOL… The lady is flexible. I’ll give her that.

        We’ll see what she thinks, when she’s swabbing the demon semen covered decks of the good ship Lamprolator! 😀

        • SofiaT

          I have a feeling Alex should WoG that there’s going to be no rape here, with how often it’s been mentioned.

          Although, I think it’s pretty obvious. Is there any chance at all Alex would do this to his little hero -and us? No.

          • Ah ah ahhh, no running to the word of god… some of us have already been excessively clear that our definition of ‘rape’ includes what Duncan has ALREADY done to little Kyle… okay a kinky hot chained to the bed sorta rape, but still an emo-rape of the first order of a naive, nervous, virgin gay boy.

            In fact D. admits he needed to fully rape his ‘trust’ for the spell to work. And he succeeded. So I think it’s a bit late for the word of god on this one. Although the word is still out on Lampy’s ‘equipment’. Heck ‘he’ might be a ‘she’. This IS hell after all.

            And if you can still hold out hope for the Redilator, then I don’t see that as any different than conjecturing on the possibility of the USS Lamprolator.

            I’m not advocating mind you… just speculating. Thasss all.

          • SofiaT

            Just a note, not just to you but everyone who uses the word “rape” so liberally here… with quite a few thousand people reading this comic, there is a big chance at least a few of them have gone through such a trauma. I don’t think it’s wise to just drop the word so casually and/or joke about it.

            Just my humble opinion.

          • Fair enough. I agree with the thought that, that particular word perhaps should be retired, in the name of entertainment. This is supposed to be about adventure…

            However, a number of us gays have been “VIOLATED” in life and feel that this story line had elements that fully qualify the use of THAT word. We fully believe that that “word” is not exclusive to women, nor is it only applicable to a narrow definition of penetrative sex.

            I personally have had the experience of being ignored when I was a very young man and we reached a point beyond my experience and comfort zones. At that time, when I said ‘NO’, I was ignored. It hurt, it was bad and it took me a long time to get over.

            Alex chose a sexual/trust violation for his drama and I support him in doing it.

            However, I also don’t have a problem calling events as I see them. If someone doesn’t like the event, calling it something else… like “puppies and rainbows” doesn’t make it less violating to me.

            Duncan did what he did. Call it what you will.

            So I’ll put the soap box and THAT ‘word’ away and let the good ship Denial sail on in peace, but I defend that the word was accurately and fairly used and not inappropriate to Duncan’s actions. I also believe if one can read this comic one can handle a perfectly respectable english word.

            Just MY humble opinion.

          • SofiaT

            It’s not the word itself Chris. It’s how it’s been used. I’ve seen so many jokes in here about Kyle being raped by the big hunk of demon, it seems like some people would actually welcome the possibility because it would give them a reason to hate Duncan more.

            Joking about rape and making light of it is a no-no in my book. Always.

            And I never said rape is a trauma only women go though. It’s why I used the word “people” above.

            Also, I was sexually harassed by a family member as a child. Talk about violation of trust. And I know quite a few people who have been too. They are more than we think they are because it’s not a subject people like to talk about (it took me years to be able to admit it and not feel responsible for it). I don’t mind the use of the words rape, or violation or harrassment. Hell, I bonded with Sookie Stackhouse over it when reading the books. But joking about it? No.

            And what happened to me was very light -just inappropriate touching. I can’t imagine what people who have actually been raped would feel reading all this speculation -which in points is downright giddy.

            We are a nice crowd here, we can be a bit sensitive to other people’s feelings, right?

          • Everything you say is entirely fair. And, of course, you didn’t segregate females in your comments. I was just making the point, since I think it’s hard for some to see gay males in the same human light. Our society certainly isn’t used to doing it.

            I think you also point at some of the emotional things that Steven, I and others have reacted to in comments.

            Part of it is that there are (perfectly reasonable) readers who would welcome a more directly sexualized content in the book… thus the joking.

            Part of it is, for some of us gays, that BAD joke that all guys want it all the time. Kyle certainly wanted what he ‘thought’ he was getting… NOT what he got.

            I feel serious pain when I read some of Steven’s posts. He’s seriously identifying with the EMOTIONAL pain Kyle is feeling at the ‘betrayal’. In this case the betrayal of trust and the nonconsensual bondage and paralysis IS the ‘rape’ I refer to. Steven, I and others are imagining how this inexperienced 18 year-old kid is feeling chained to a bed in hell unable to speak and not knowing what’s happening. I’m sure he feels far worse than I ever did.

            So, I totally agree with you, that even though I didn’t use the word ‘rape’, perhaps making a jocular joke about swabbing demon semen off the deck wasn’t in the best of taste (or didn’t taste good). So my apology. You are correct that jokes about violation are not a good thing in general.

            There is still a part of me that wants people to think about what Kyle is really feeling and that ‘word’ sits at the forefront of my consciousness. So even though I’m over-reacting, the apologies for Duncan’s actions can push a button, which I should ignore.

            All simply the outcome of too much empathy on my part. I have trouble sometimes when books are this intense, because I sympathize deeply with a suffering character. I’m still glad to have experienced a great read, but it can be a hard road getting there.

            So, all good. I agree with you about joking.

            However, I would emphasize that Duncan’s actions shouldn’t be joked away as ‘nothing’ and of ‘no consequence’ by the same argument. If it’s serious… it’s ALL serious.

            I do respect your opinion and you comment.

            All best,
            ChrisD

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, I know what you mean. I’m actually choosing to focus on Duncan because I don’t want to think too hard about what Kyle is going through at the moment.

            With 2 pages a week, it would probably be a year before I started feeling better about it if I did. And I just want to enjoy the amazing pages and the ride.

            I’ve actually considered giving Steven that piece of advice too, to just chill and distance himself a bit from it all if it’s so difficult for him, but I don’t want it to seem as if I’m dismissing his feelings so I’ve stayed silent on the matter (well, if he reads this then I’m obviously not so silent now). Still, it’s not something I will push. Not my right and not my business.

            Btw, you’re right about it all being serious. But in my comment above about Duncan having nothing to apologise for, I want to think the sarcasm in it is obvious. I like Duncan, even now I still do, but he has a lot of things to apologise for. He may be a fascinating character but he’s also a jackass.

          • Well said. That’s basically why I’ve been focusing on Duncan as well.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hey – thanks. It’s nice to know, from your opening, that you DO understand how I feel and what I’m going through, due to my ACTUALLY “thinking too hard about what Kyle is going through at the moment” – and I do feel like it’s going to be like forever before I start feeling better about it. On the other hand, regarding your comment about Duncan not having anything to apologize for, and your quips as to why, I did take that in the spirit in which it was intended, and it may have even got me to crack a grin.

          • SofiaT

            Glad I could make you smile 🙂

          • Steven Klimecky

            You are correct – I do feel the way you described, and I don’t mind you speaking on my behalf about that and as to the nature and foundation of my thoughts and feelings, because your interpretation and analysis has been spot-on, and I really couldn’t have put it all in better words myself. And your paragraph “All simply the outcome of …hard road getting there” – I really identify with all that as well. Thanks for all you have taken the time to write and thoughtfully convey.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I mentioned the possibility of that which you describe in your first sentence – but I wasn’t joking – I was damn freaking fearful about it as a possibility – and the last thing I was doing was welcoming the possibility – with all the other nastiness Kyle is having and will have to deal with, that is, as I hope most can tell, the very last thing I want to see happen at this point. I think that’s why you were earlier giving me some reasons why I shouldn’t suspect this, so I’d feel better, which I’m thankful for. I find myself empathizing with Kyle more than you can possibly imagine – and feeling more affection for him than just about any other fictional character I can think of at the moment – so given what’s he’s been through already, I want to poor kid to have the least amount of additional pain and trauma as possible. I hope he somehow is able to extricate himself from all of this VERY soon.

          • SofiaT

            As mentioned on my other comment above, I wasn’t referring to you. The difference here is between “fearful speculation” (which is what you’ve been doing) and “hopeful speculation”.

            I don’t wish to dismiss your fears or feelings, and I respect your attachement to Kyle, but for me it’s pretty simple: I choose to trust Alex.
            He has already stated many times that this story is about Kyle becoming stronger as a person, and a great champion to the world. To do that, he has to go through some hard times. Heroes don’t just pop up, they have to be honed, to suffer to deserve their title. But there is a difference between going through some hard times (being betrayed by a lover for example) and going through experiences that could break you (rape).
            Besides the fact that he has already verified Kyle will not be killed or permanently hurt in any way, I just trust Alex to deliver one hell of a story.

            Just because the story is in a dark place now, doesn’t mean it will remain there. The plot neeeded this betrayal. No angst, no emotional growth. And Kyle needs to grow up.

            No true hero story is full of puppies and rainbows.
            If it was, quite honestly, it would suck.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Just not sure about “The plot needed this betrayal. No angst, no emotional growth. And Kyle needs to grow up” Whoa – I could write a small book in response to that. I’ve been through more angst in my life than you can imagine, and I HAVE grown emotionally, perhaps more than most people. However, if I had not been through the things I have been, if even half the hurts I’ve endured over the years had not been there I’m just about certain that I would be a much happier, much more well-adjusted and emotionally stable and better-fulfilled person than I am. And I’d say one doesn’t need traumatic things happening to one in order to “grow up” – people can grow up just fine without being put through such things – they might even grow up better. Actually, the man I consider the most wonderful and mature and amazing and competent and talented and well-adjusted person I’ve ever met, aside from the general issues that come along with being gay, has actually led a pretty charmed life with hardly much strife at all, and he’s really the greatest guy in the world in my opinion. I think it’s kind of making an extreme generalization to say that the only emotionally mature people in this world are those that have been put through terrible circumstances. Also, as noted, what we have here in this case is not a simple betrayal by a lover – it’s been supered-up, as Alex has said. But that increases the intensity of it for a reader as well. I’ve dealt with a great many circumstances of being betrayed by someone I liked or cared about, and/or thought they cared about me, and then I have experienced a few more deeply scarring emotional events that, if I dwell on them for too long, I find it difficult to function. I just, unlike a lot of people, don’t find pleasure in seeing others put through such things. In some ways I suppose I’ve become pretty strong, but it happens on a daily basis that there are those moments where I feel like I’m just going to shatter and crumble from it all. But I carry on. Of course I’m not too sure I can turn away from things here just yet – I’m too emotionally invested to ignore things – I’ll know when and if I have to – like when I had to stop watching Days of Our Lives (the only “soap opera” I started to watch because it looked like there was something I could finally identify with for awhile) when supposedly gay Will, after finally finding a great bf, knocks up his ex gf in some stupid pointless act and becomes a gay father at age 18 (or early 20s or whatever). That plot twist totally sickened me and I found I couldn’t relate to him as a character anymore – but it had a lot to do also with the stupid way the events happened, the fact that did not make any sense, and so many elements not being well-reasoned or thought out, and in certain ways not in touch with reality at all, etc. (For example, as I’ve mentioned, no one in the damn town ever even thinking to use condoms and just about every baby ever born is born, not only out of wedlock, but fathered or mothered by someone other than the parent’s current significant other. Now, I know the lack of condom use might be a pretty real thing in a lot of populations, but it’s a horrible public service message to be giving through one’s show that no-one even thinks about such things as unwanted pregnancies or STDs, and the “fictional reality” portrayed is one in which protective agents don’t even exist, nor should one ever give a thought to such things.) I do have faith that things will be different here. On the other hand, I still think there could have been all kinds of opportunities for conflict, and thus and interesting story and lots of character growth and development, if certain very specific aspects of Duncan’s actions had gone a different way or were/are not present. But, as is obvious, it’s not my story. But at least it has a greater intelligence behind it, and still a lot of thought and feeling, than most of those stories I’ve had to turn away from in other venues. I just really hate the whole kind of “Brokeback Mountain” resolution – whereupon, after one has become very emotionally invested in a character, then something happens to that character that leaves one feeling completely devastated. People could say – “well, that’s reality – horrible traumatic things happen to people”, etc., etc. But that’s where I’d like fantasy to play a role in at least a lot of cases and tell people, as dark as the real world gets, things are not IMPOSSIBLE to be otherwise. That is what I had been hoping from the story here initially, but then it got very dark very quickly and started to mirror the darkness of reality moreso than my ideal hope would have wanted. I’ll try to follow your example though and trust Alex. I know Kyle won’t be killed, etc., but it will take a titanic amount of skill to make things balance out and somehow work out satisfactorily. The storytelling in general, however, is very skilled in terms of a totally engaging tale full of exciting – though often painful or anxiety-producing – twists that keep things interesting and everyone guessing. It’s like the results of a crash or accident that are gruesome to look at, but a person may find that they can’t turn away from either.

          • SofiaT

            Steven, you and me don’t need to suffer in order to grow up (although I do thing it’s our hardships that form and define us, just the scale is smaller for ordinary people) -but you and me aren’t superheroes destined to save the world.

            You attribute way too many RL attributes to a piece of fiction. A piece of fiction about people who can fly, control fire, play with magic and project thoughts.

            According to Aristoteles, the definition of tragedy is the playing out of a story worth telling, a story with beginning, middle and end, where the hero suffers and the spectators/readers are cleansed (katharsi), by feeling mercy and fear for the hero’s destiny.

            If this was a story about a young man who fell in love with a villain, had some sappy times with said villain, saved the world like he was going for a walk in a park and then “the end”, with no angst, no real emotional depth, then it wouldn’t be a story worth telling.

            That’s my opinion, but if yours differs then we can just agree to disagree and leave it here.

            Peace out.

          • There’s an interesting discussion here about the difference between how we react to an event in real life and how we should react to an event in a fictional work. For the most part, it’s being kept about the ideas and interesting ideas they are. 🙂

            That said, and I say this because I believe this is in line with your values, let’s still be careful about the “you” statements (i.e. “You attribute way too many…”). That could still be about the idea (which I think is how it was intended), but it could also be seen as a personal judgment (which from your other comments, I get the impression is the opposite of something you’d want to convey.)

            No one’s crossed any line yet, but this is a charged topic and if y’all are interested in continuing to pursue it, I think you’ll agree, we need to be extra careful about keeping is just about the ideas. Of course, if y’all decide to agree to disagree, that’s fine too. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Thanks Alex -and sorry. You’re right.

            I was not planning on going there, and I’m not happy with myself that I ended up doing it. I’m a bit concerned I guess and I put my “mom” hat on.

            I hate it when that happens -next thing you know I’ll start trying to force-feed people spanakopita because they “look too skinny” >:(

            But you can’t force-feed people silver linings any more than you can force-feed them spanakopita (yummy as it may be).

            I think I’ll bow and make my exit here 🙂

          • Mmm. Spanakopita…

            (And thank you for understanding where I was coming from. 🙂 )

          • Oh well said, both of you. I’ve actually enjoyed this smart exchange of ideas and words and act-definitions. Part of what makes it so engaging is the passion that good art makes us bring to our points of view. So, I entirely agree with Sofia and I am most assuredly not planning “to go there” either and I thank her for a great discussion.

            Also thanks to Steven (and many others) for continually making me aware that these events are more than just jokes… even if he and I are going to try to find some reasonable distance… so we can go the distance (see what I did there?).

            I thank Alex for creating such an interesting and purely engaging villain (darn you Alex for making Duncan so HOT!) and I appreciate why so many people love him. It’s a great character kids, I do not deny it.

            And finally I must say that Spanakopita is one of the worlds best foods and next time the USS Redilator is in port, I hope it drops off a shipment. I think I can be force fed and am willing to try. 🙂

            All best,
            Chris (the well-behaved) Dangerfield

          • Steven, what can I say except you are not alone in many of your feelings. Some of us here will understand that you can intensely relate to how Kyle is FEELING right now (I know I do) and, at the same time it’s just a fact that others will feel differently, and that is just the nature of art, fiction, fantasy and life. Empathy is quality unique to all.

            I think the trick for folk like us who seriously invest is that if we choose to continue to partake of this comic, serially (later cutting to the HEA will be a very viable option… been there, done that) is to try and step back, to know that we are empathizing deeply, to trust our author’s purpose and enjoy the artistry as best we can… knowing we’re on a journey.

            I think it’s very important for some of us who are gay to accept that many others who are, and also many who aren’t, will have entirely different life experiences that they will apply to this adventure and so their comments will reflect a very different POV on events and their emotional relation to them.

            AND THAT DOES NOT NEGATE OUR FEELINGS.

            We are allowed to feel as we do, just as they are allowed to feel differently. That is just the nature of art.

            Sofia’s remark above about “rainbows and puppies” making bad hero-stories was rather grandly absolutist, but I think it’s fair to say that Alex’ pursuit of adversity for Kyle still may provide us with a really awesome story. Kyle may even get a puppy at the end and all the Young Protectors will think up names for him… Awwwww.

            Anyway, she was really just poking at my post from yesterday where I used the phrase in trying to say that calling Duncan’s actions against Kyle by different words (i.e. ‘rainbows and puppies’) didn’t make the act less an emotional ‘r*pe’.

            In respect for yesterday’s debate, I’m going to do that super obnoxious thing and substitute an asterisk into the word ‘r*pe’ thus protecting everyone’s delicate sensitivities. You know? Like with ‘f*ck’ because that way none of you really know I’m so crass as to say the word FUCK. Right?

            ‘R*pe’ being the specific word we were debating the definition of yesterday caused another smart reader to mention something to me that I very much agree with now…

            “At this point, IMHO, the word ‘rape’ is so provocative and means such different things to different readers that we are probably approaching a limit for how useful it is to try to use it to describe Kyle’s feelings about Duncan’s actions.”

            I completely agree with that. So I’m going to retire THAT word. I know how I feel about Duncan’s actions. And, after re-reading many comments yesterday, it’s so clear that quote is totally correct. Everyone here feels uniquely.

            Some (like you and I and others) feel that Duncan did very much violate you gay virgin Kyle and that the definition of ‘r*pe’ in that context includes a lot more than a penis in an orifice. Other readers think similarly but don’t feel it so deeply, which is cool. Others, since penetration didn’t seem to happen, think it doesn’t fit the classic definition of ‘r*pe’. Others would like to see Duncan ‘r*ped’ in revenge for what he did to Kyle… and on and on… ad naseum.

            So I celebrate your right to feel so deeply for Kyle. In fact I share it a great deal. I’m simply think for our own well being you and I should:

            1) Either take a super deep breath and hope that Duncan gets (as Amanda said so well) “a pitchfork in Dat Ass!” and, more important, that Kyle comes through soon to find some relief so we CAN make it to chapter 7,482.

            or

            2) We step back and take a break from the pages for a while and from the pressure of a serial work of art. A situation where we can’t control the pace of the revelation of knowledge. Thus we can be left in a difficult emotional place for too long… for us.

            I’m saying this as one who knows. This is even harder when it’s written prose and your hero is suffering and you have to wait TWO MONTHS for the next chapter and any explanation or relief. It’s just a product of the serial art experience.

            Either way we have to allow the feelings of other readers to be what they will and for them not to bring us down. As much as I might want to think someone doesn’t understand Kyle’s suffering because they’re not gay or they haven’t suffered themselves… I have to accept that that’s not true. Everyone brings their own creative spirit to art and most often it simply will be different than mine…

            And that’s totally cool and what makes this fun as long as we can keep our balance.

            Hang in pal. I hope you can enjoy the journey without too much hurt (I hope I can too, LOL) and I’ll look forward to your thoughts along the way or later on, whichever works best.

            Best,

            Chris (Duncan is Lampy’s love-toy) Dangerfield

          • Steven Klimecky

            I heartily support every bit of that. Pretty close to my opinion on the matter as well.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Nah – that’s just it – we (or at least I, and I suspect Chris as well) are NOT using it casually – far from it – we are using it precisely for a horrendous act of violation and non-consensual use and abuse – mentally as well as physically to a certain extent, and I know I don’t find what Kyle has already gone through and Kyle’s present situation anywhere near as much a joking matter as a lot of commentators here – just the opposite. I think that it’s use, in our case, was very specifically reasoned and considered, with no intent to diminish the severity of that term.

          • SofiaT

            I wasn’t referring to you Steve. 🙂
            I can tell from reading your comments that none of this is a joke to you. If anything, you’re feeling everything too deeply.

            If I may say so, since we’re on the subject, maybe you should try to distance yourself a bit, for your own good? I’m just not sure following this comic at this time is the best thing for you. Maybe allow the story to progress before you get back to it? It’s really painful to watch you suffer so much because you identify so completely with Kyle.

            Just a piece of advice you may wish to think about or disregard 🙂

            However, to get back on track, there are plenty of comments in this page making light of both the subject of rape and the possibility (non-existant as it is) that Kyle could get raped by a demon. I simply said we should try and be a bit more thoughtful before making statements like that, because they could be hurtful to people who have actually gone through such a trauma. Joking about rape makes rape victims feel like what happened to them doesn’t matter, and it does matter.

            Just my two cents on the matter.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I love what you said there. (You really are my favorite commentator.) But, don’t you think if Lampy was a Lampressa or Lampretta or Lamprolita, or what-not, there would be some similarly ginormous red boobage bouncing around the chest area?

          • You are correct. As I said when I was asked this in the Prologue, that won’t happen in this comic. Or really any comic I would create.

            WoG out.

  • I am stymied… and that’s all I can offer.

  • Walls of blood and pain… I wonder if that’s just a saying, considering it was quite a ‘journey’ to get whereever they are right now.

    The pain could easily be emotional betrayal. Emotional pain can be much worse that physical.
    Blood.. hmm, maybe that time when ‘It tickles, also on the inside’ for Kyle when Sircea played fairy godmother and gave him a suit. Duncan asked her if she got what was needed. It could also have been used to already create a contact. Otherwise I’m not so sure what Anni refers to in the last panel.

    Blood could also mean some kind of kinship. That option creates a lot more theories about Kyle’s origin, but I’m leaning more to Sircea doing something – or it’s a bit of both options since Kyle seems to be special somehow.

    What would it do to a genuinely good guy like Kyle to know that he’s the connection to some really creepy dude and this scary dimension?

    • Sapfo

      Duncan might have done a blood sacrifices before meeting up with Kyle. There are two different blood sacrifices that I can think of. 1. Spilling the blood of someone else, Or. 2. Spilling his own blood.
      Just thinking here.

    • Adam Black

      Duncans a killer. Hes probably shed a lot if blood to get to this moment.

  • Or Thursday. But he still might not believe him.

  • Before I really make myself sign off and goooooo to sleep. I just want to know if Sapfo is still sipping her tea and thinking THREEEEEEWAY…..?

    • It’s Sapfo. Do you even need to ask? 😉

      • Sapfo

        HEY, you two! >_<
        The tea is good, the threesome is excellent. Do you even need too ask? ^_^

      • I stand corrected!

  • Finooola

    A demon!! YAAAAAYYYY!

  • SofiaT

    Sooooo… Is this Kyle’s dad? 😛

    • That would actually be kinda awesome.

      • Sargon

        Explains his powers, maybe.

        • That’s my thinking.

          • Sargon

            or Kyle’s origins lay elsewhere and he’s the virgin sacrifice. LOL I don’t think he could be his son since I’ve never ran across a story that involves sacrificing the son of a demon to summon the demon father but I could be wrong and it’s not his demon father or a sacrifice.

          • I don’t think it’s a sacrifice. I think he was used as a catalyst.

          • Guest

            lol, yeah good point. That demon does kind of look like Trigon but with fewer eyes.

    • Adam Black

      gay uncle

      • Big brother.

      • Think Paul Lynde on Bewitched… but with a tail.

        • Adam Black

          was there any straight person on that show?

  • Angie Penrose

    Oh, now Alex is just messing with us, LOL!

    No, seriously, this is great! The more complicated it gets, the more I’m enjoying it. I just wish it were updating more than twice a week. 😀

    Angie, making popcorn

    • Jamie Dutton

      I totally agree. Did you read further down where Steve mentioned big red gay Satan from South Park?

  • Sapfo

    Well Mr Tall, dark and flying. I have things too do now. But just you wait, when I come back, I am going to resist your amazing biceps and analyze you to bits.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Ooo, I just noticed that the demon has a hairy chest too. Not quite as much as Mr. Manbearpig there but, nicely hairy. You can see it really well in the 4th panel highlighted against the flaming hellscape.

      • SofiaT

        I noticed that you can’t tell if he’s anatomically correct or not 😛

        • I tried too.

        • Adam Black

          if Duncan is unlucky

          • SofiaT

            If Duncan is unlucky will he be anatomically correct, or not be?

            Lets not forget the guy is over 12 feet tall. If he is proportionate… then that’s not necessarily good.

            Scary is more like it. O.o

          • Not if there is another 12ftandstudly about.

      • Amanda

        The hellfire adds an extra dimension to everything. I’m thinking of redoing my living room in it.

      • vessto

        TYP contains so sexy chests, ne? I prefer smooth ones, as Kyle’s.

    • “analyze you to bits.” — you talk this way on dates… don’t you? 😀

      • Sapfo

        It that why they run screaming out the door…. it would explain alot 😉

  • o_O Is my playlist trying to tell me something?
    I have it on random and it’s like something makes it pick song titles that can be related to the comic. Either current events or foreshadowing.

    It just finished music called ‘Fire Nation’ and some of the recent music/songs played in the last couple of hours have been titles like:
    (random listing)
    – I see you .. that one played during previous page with the creepy eye
    – Dark Ages
    – Birth of a hero
    – Warriors of the world
    – Planet Hell .. that one started about 5mins after new page was up
    – In chains
    – God’s gonna cut you down
    – Broken
    – The killing type
    – Bittersweet
    – Light ’em up (I’m on fire)
    – Heart of courage
    – The unforgiven
    – What have you done?
    – Masquerade´
    – Not ready to make nice
    – A Demon’s fate

    And I could add a large handfull more, but better stop here. I’ve just been increasingly amused of the songs randomly picked, as more and more titles seems to fit – at least for me.

  • SofiaT

    I love how even when he’s kneeling and “humbly” apologising, Duncan still has an attitude. “You should have been told to expect me”.

    You should practice being deferntial a bit more, Anni, you don’t exactly have it down to a pat yet.

    • It’s one of his many charms.

    • Unless that’s a warning. “You should have been told to expect me.” As he leaps up and punches him. Of course Mr. 12ftandstudly wouldn’t budge an inch. That’s going to hurt.

      • vessto

        Hmm, I think Anni is really a bit scared from Laampros and this sentence is an adding to the excuse why he bothers such so mighty demon.

        • I would think though that he would instead say: I was told you would be expecting me.

          Or something like that. It just seems to lack the appropriate amount of humbleness. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            “My people contacted your people. I expect you’ve been preparing for my arrival. Where’s my limo and vintage wine? And I think I made it clear I want 15 bottles of Evian in a little frigde in my room. I only drink Evian -or San Pelegrino if worst comes to worse.

            You can see I’m willing to make some compromises here.”

          • Exactly. XD

  • Mike W

    What happened to the eye in the sky? Was it re-appropriated by the Alan Parsons Project?

    • vessto

      That was Laampros I suppose.

  • TwilightDreamer

    Gah!! No!!! Don’t leave me hanging!!! *claws at screen*
    XD rofl, ok…DEFINATELY didn’t see a demon coming into play 😛
    *squeals* I’m still scared for Kyle, but this is too darn exciting!! XD

  • Thanatopia

    Take a moment to breathe a sigh of relief, Kyle – all you have to worry about is this naked 12-foot-tall stud, and not something 20 miles tall with tentacles and non-euclidian bits. Tonight’s been awkward enough without adding eldritch biz to the mix.

    • I love positive people… always that little ray of sunshine. I’ll bet you’ve NEVER had a bad date have you? Lucky so and so!

      • Thanatopia

        I certainly count myself lucky that none of my prospective boyfriends have used me to cheat the fabric of reality.

        In all seriousness, though, considering how many Lovecraftian theories were flying around, I personally consider a demon to be a relief. A VERY small relief, but I take what I can get.

        • Amanda

          I wish some of my prospective boyfriends had attempted to rip the fabric of reality, in a lot of cases I would have needed the escape.

  • SofiaT

    Irrelevant but, in that Something Brewing poster, Duncan and Sircea are depicted standing next to a bed. I hope that doesn’t imply they’re lovers…

    God, I hope they’re not lovers. *headdesk*

    • Adam Black

      Accept it now, it will be easier.

      • SofiaT

        Well, if they’re lovers (it hurts to just think about it) then Duncan is a bisexual who will kick Sircea to the curb for Kyle.

        That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

        • Adam Black

          What about poor Laampros? to say nothing of poor George Finnegan.

          • SofiaT

            I assumed Laampros and George Finnegan have a torrid love affair. But they’re keeping it a secret because George is afraid the other people in Hell will judge their relationship and doom it to Tartarus.

          • Amanda

            Georger Finnegan is not ashamed of their love!!!! He just keeps it on the downlow because Laampros worries that if the other narrow minded minions of hell found out, they would hold it against him when he came up for promotion as Demon 1st Class in charge of logistics and virgin sacrifices.

          • Adam Black

            Rumor has it Finnegan has /had another partner, Izquierda.

          • Amanda

            Laampros is well aware of that!!! Few people know this, but Laampros and Finnegan were actually pretty freaky back in the day. They met at a swingers party being thrown by Izquierda (its all been kept very secretive given Izquierda role in Spanish politics). During a particularly raunchy 2 & 1/2 way they bumped into each other, and it was instantaneous love.

          • “they bumped into each other, and it was instantaneous love.”

            You mean instantaneous ‘sticky’ love… I mean… GF is an eyeball…

            But, hey, they don’t have our hangups so… AWESOME!

          • Amanda

            In all fairness, it was a swingers party, GF may have been the least sticky one there.

          • LOL

          • Adam Black

            I can’t wait for the flying genitalia . Their scandals will take the heat off poor George.

          • You always say that… if I have to hear ONE… MORE… TIME… about you and those flying genitalia…

            Wait? Say again?

          • Adam Black

            “So long and thanks for all the fish”

          • Steven Klimecky

            I think they are a couple. Who do you think relayed the message to Laampros? “Honey! We have company! – Get your ginormous red ass on over here and make them feel at home – I gotta find the Visine – I really look way too much a mess to greet our guests properly.”

        • “A woman scorned is an old trope…” but I don’t even want to think about a Sircea scorned.

          Oh wait, maybe I do…..

        • silibub

          If he does, then I’ll be waiting to scoop her up!

        • Adam Black

          but he gets hell amnesia and forgets about kyle,

          PP had it all planned out

      • So true. What part of “this is hell” do people not understand?

        • Adam Black

          Someone told them its always Valentines Day in hell.

          • Valentine’s Day is hell.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Got that right.

          • You are my sunshine
            My only sunshine
            You make me happyyyy
            When skies are blue
            You….

            Oh wait? Sorry Steven this comment was meant for the Barney discussion group. *snerk*

            Apologies. Have a swell day.

    • Jason Equality King

      Maybe it’s because I’m still trying to keep the Redilator afloat, but to me it looks more like Duncan is standing there with a sassy hand on his hip. I think it’s more likely that Sircea is his ‘fag hag’. I suspect they’re good friends, and were maybe even dating at one point (mostly as a cover-up) before Anni came to terms with the fact that he likes young red heads…

      • SofiaT

        I don’t dismiss the possibility of them being brother & sister either.

        • That crossed my mind as well.

        • Adam Black

          that wont stop the love.

    • What? No good ship Platnolator? 🙂

      • SofiaT

        Are you joking? Now and forever.

        I’m its goddamn captain!

        • You referred to Duncan and Sircea as possible lovers.

          Oh I know about the Redilator but, read again, I was referring to the good ship PLATNOLATOR whereupon Duncan and Sircea sail off into the distance to celebrate their true love forever more, while little Red is left behind as a snack for Lampy.

          THAT’S what I was checking on. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            There is no Platnolator.

            If there is, we will engage in a Battleship and I WILL SINK IT, mwa ha ha!!! >:D

            p.s: I should have realised what you were saying but it’s 5.17am and I saw this half an hour ago, when I was still half-woken up. Mea culpa.

          • See the problem is that I can’t carry on because I support that goal…….. it’s so hard to be contrary when one is a romantic. LOL.

      • Steven Klimecky

        I’m still hoping for a “Platander” situation. P.P. could really teach Commander to chill out and have some fun – she’s way too uptight as it is – and she doesn’t seem too fond of all those young men she’s leading anyway – she’s SO bitchy with them. I think it would make a nice parallel too, so she can’t get on Kyle’s case for flirting with the other side.

    • silibub

      I’m still hoping they bonded over their mutual gayness, and that the bed is just part of her room’s decor. Maybe she likes to catnap between potions?

  • b3nc0

    Laampros will call your bluff, Annihi-liar, those walls were neither /your/ blood nor /your/ pain!…
    Waitwaitwaitwaitwait, there wasn’t any of that, not a drop of blood was shed & the spells actually brought Kyle pleasure. I’m quite sure that “I have crossed the walls of wine and orgasm” would have been more fitted for Dyonisos & will miff Lampy here… Even more so seing the offering is actually
    DU-DU-DUN
    His very own SON!

  • SofiaT

    Um, so we had concluded (followng a WoG that the connection to “lampros” was not accidental) that Laampros meant “the bright/shining one”.

    And the Latin name Lucifer (“Eosforos” in Anc.Greek) means “the bearer of light”.

    *sigh* Some times the best-hidden twists are hidden in the most obvious places, aren’t they?

  • Ley

    talk about a powerful orgasm…

  • Hours

    “The Young Protectors: Even our demons are sexy.”

  • I just wanted to say the detailing on those wings is amazing.

    • SofiaT

      I know, right? They really do look leathery!

      • And veiny.

        • Adam Black

          you shippers!

          • SofiaT

            If you mean that we’re shipping hard the collaboration between Alex, Adam and Vero, then guilty as charged!

          • Adam Black

            I meant the shipping corollaries that followed from noting
            “looks amazing”, “leathery” and “veiny”.

            Now please continue ‘The basterd & the damned’ dating service and muffin company , as if i had not interrupted .Laampros looks lonely , those wings could probably use a good waxing.

          • And pointy!

          • Adam Black

            wasnt somebody getting me muffins?

            “pointy”?
            You must be into some interesting activities

          • Muffins are in the other room. Just watch out for the sugarfree one’s Lampy baked. There’s some prophesy about end of days attached to them.

            Actually if someone could kindly point (heh, pun) me in the direction of any interesting “activities” I’d be grateful.

          • Adam Black

            have you tried Tumblr?

          • Only insofar that some of the comic’s I read have Tumblr pages. So, um…no.

          • Adam Black

            just google : whatever you like ( “hot sexytimes men” ) tumblr.com

            its all there, every topic

          • Yes, apparently it is. O.O

          • 😛

  • Sapfo

    I GOT IT!
    Okay, crazy theori time.

    Kyle has just had a huge orgasm. As most of us know cum from a male contains sperm. Kyle’s cum fertilized the Giant Eye. And given that this is another dimension where space and time moves differently from ours, that means that this is 25 years after that Kyle had his orgasm ….

    Gigantic eye: “Congratulations Kyle, you are now a father., It became a big red Laampros!”
    Laampros: “Papa!”

    • SugarPlumFairy

      That would make Duncan his father as well 😉

      • Sapfo

        Nä that´s even too weird for me 😉

        • SugarPlumFairy

          Well he -did- make that orgasm happen, I think he’d be more than happy to take responsibility for it 😉

    • Steven Klimecky

      Ewww – that’s as bad as supposedly gay (and painfully gorgeous young blond) Will from “Days of our Lives” fathering a child with his (horribly ditzy and insipid) ex-girlfriend in some weird random hook-up even after he decided he was def. gay and broke up with her long ago and had recently (and FINALLY) acquired the other young (beautiful dark-haired) heart-throb as his boyfriend. I only started watching that show for the gay plot-line and the potential Will-Sonny romance (that was actually starting to happen), but then t that point where he’s finally in a great gay relationship, he finds out he’s the father of his ex-girlfriend’s pregnancy. I swear there is no such thing as safe sex or condoms in that show’s universe. Just about ALL the women are having or have had babies with someone who is not their current partner, even while involved with current partner. I guess it’s just the nature of the sordid beast. But I exited at that point – I couldn’t believe that – I felt totally betrayed. They finally were showing a young gay character in a positive light having a nice relationship with another great young guy then it’s – “Oh, btw hun, I’m going to be a father – when I was starting to date you, I got my ex gf preggers.” Actually I didn’t stick around to see how he broke the news to his bf. I just expected more. I still hope I can expect more from this comic than that type of thing, though what’s happened so far is painful enough already.

      • Sapfo

        I´m kind of impressed that you watched days of our lives. Not really my kind of show.

        I don´t think you have to worry about GiantEyeball havning any babys. But there is the theori that Laampros is father/brother/uncle too Kyle.

        I was just looking for the weirdest theory I could come up with. Which was pregnent Giant Eye.

      • Steven, buddy, deep deep breaths. Now take a sip of the nice refreshing cool drink…. ‘Kay dude? Good. Now the great betrayer has only transported our little hero to hell and is selling him off to some demon in return for some lame ass favor. Hey that’s like most nights out at your basic gay club right?

        So no big.

        Try not let this page break you. Certainly under NO CIRCUMSTANCES let it make you watch pseudo gay characters on soap operas designed for 65 year old het women… that’s just self-immolation.

        Listen I know all this adversity was going to make Kyle better (why? because Alex says so, thass why) but NOW? I believe it’s going to make KYLE AWESOME. ‘Cause this really is a bit much for almost any first date… right?

        And I’m now on the HSS Good Ship Lamprolator… You know that’s where Spooks pops in and pulls Kyle’s fat out of the metaphysical fire (and off the ever-burning damn bed) and leaves Anni stranded there with a highly cranky (and very horny) Lampy and so it’s now Duncan’s turn to become betrayed, violated, just a wee bit raped and generally feeling blue. And since he’s basically invulnerable, Lampy can do it over and over and over and over again. Eventually even Duncan might reform and redeem… (and I doubted it could happen, but this might just do it…?) proving all the apologists right… in a way… sort of.

        Duncan will become a better villain, and he’ll find true love. Just not quite like we expected.

        So everyone onboard the Good Ship Lamprolator and all will soon be revealed. Yayyy!

        Oh and we’ll take care of Kyle. When he get’s home and tells Spooks what happened. Well, Spooky will roll his eyes and say, “Dude, whey didn’t you tell me? A little masturbation-anti-combustion spell will fix you right up and then I’ll help you get a decent blow job without igniting the poor dude’s mouth on fire and everything will be cool. There’s nothing that a decent blow-job won’t fix up. Trust me… super villains are always more complicated than they’re worth anyway.

        And off they go…. while back in Hell, Lampy says to Dunc., “Lube? What’s that?”

        Laters…

        • Steven Klimecky

          Ahh – you did make me feel a bit better with that scenario. Thanks!

    • AC♥Bear

      LolIdonteven.

      This hypothesis is hilarious.

    • Hysterical… I wake up clutching my first cup of coffee and this is where I start? I left last night and little Sapfo was dreaming of threeways… now the deed has happed in the past followed by gestation and tenage demons and Kyles a proud papa? That’s IT. I’m never sleeping again. Golly knows what will happen……

      • Sapfo

        Well thats what happens when you leave me to do all the analyzing. Now Kyle is going to rais his son, how is older then him and most probably also demon. But Kyle has absolutely no prejudices against it….him. o.O

  • Saikkusukka

    And the orgasm was needed for this?
    I get why Duncan couldn’t simply tell Kyle what he was gonna do, since he would’ve bolted even for just this. And I don’t know the rest of his plan yet! This is suspicious enough.

    • Amy

      Maybe Kyle was a sacrifice for that demon so Duncan could speak to him.

      • Saikkusukka

        Well quite the hefty sacrifice, don’t you think? ._.

      • Saikkusukka

        Yeah, figured as much 😀 Just creepy as hell, and just makes me worry what’s gonna happen to Kyle next. I wonder if he’s gonna be able to cope with this betrayal 😐

  • vessto

    Amazing!!!! You’re the best in suspense!

    So, Anni used Kyle’s power accumulated in his orgasm to create a tunnel and to call this demon… Kyle is used in this so ugly way… 🙁

    And, oh, Anni on his knees and so meek, I love panel 4 and 5!!!!!

    *in tease mode* Maybe Laampros is Kyle’s father?

    *giggles* You mean October 9th, ne?

    • SofiaT

      Oct 5th before 9th! 😀

      • vessto

        It is written September.:)

        • SofiaT

          Where? I only read “this Saturday”
          *scratches head*

          • vessto

            He added one more sentence after reaching the donation limit. Refresh the page, maybe you see the text before the adding.

          • SofiaT

            I refresh but nothing new shows up. Must be the #$%&*$@!%^ cookies >:(

          • vessto

            It is written in bold letters.

            Yeah, I got myself un-logged from Disqus, maybe my cookies were self-deleted.

          • SofiaT

            Ah yes! Had to clean my cookies, but now I see it. 🙂

  • Poor Kyle. Duncan acting well! He believed Duncan and that was sad.

    Maybe he’s just a young gay boy who believe he found love…

    • vessto

      Yeah, totally agree.:(

  • vessto

    I like Sircea’s fanart, especially her bra and boots.

  • Rin

    AND SUDDENLY, SATAN-ESQUE FIGURE.

    • vessto

      😀 Hot man who has Anni for his submissive.:)

  • vessto

    This page makes me remembering the famous Star Wars quote “There’s always a bigger fish”. In TYP it is “There’s always a stronger supervillain”.

  • DarkFeanix21

    “You should have been told to expect me.”

    Ha! The Annihilator is so awesome that even giant devil-like figures are told to expect him. He can claim humbleness all he likes; we all know the truth.

    Poor Kyle’s probably wondering just what the hell is going on. Pun only sort of intended.

  • warwriter

    And the mattress is still intact!

    • Niggle

      lol, I believe that is a stone table.

  • Sapfo

    For TH: Is that Mr Lamp? ._.

  • bronakopdin

    aaah… so that’s Alex idea of a Robo Ninja!

    xD

    • vessto

      Imho this is a prototype of a Robotized Sex Ninja Demon. Just imagine HIS orgasm……..

      • bronakopdin

        it would probably be an even more eruptice volcano than Kyle’s from a few pages back then!

        holy cow…

  • Dark_Otter

    “Well, I WASN’T expecting you. I’m booked solid through Friday. Did you clear this with my personal assistant?”

  • Laampros? Oh, you mean that nice guy who used to live here? I’m the new tenant. I don’t have a name. People around here call me “that guy who has a seven pronged pitchfork for a penis and uses it to repeatedly violate irritating petitioners who disturb my peace and quiet.”

    • Maria White

      “I also forgot to mention the cactus, you may not want to know where THAT goes. But well, you will find out.”

      XD

      • Holly

        “The Cactus comes before and after the pineapple.”

      • Stubbylegs

        “On a completely unrelated note, bend over.”

  • Pup Ruff

    The only thing better than this comic is the comments. They’re almost as much fun as the comic. 🙂

    • Sapfo

      I agree with you on that XD

    • Denise Cruz

      Agreed! It’s endless fun! 😀

    • bronakopdin

      absolutely!
      it’s actually the best comments section I’ve come across until now 😀

    • xLizardx

      I like your beard 😀

    • Holly

      Yup fun for the whole fam…

      Um…Well maybe not that. But yeah super fun comments with super awesome people.

  • Fakesubmite

    So Laampros is going to mount Kyle….
    Wow that’s a lot of man meat to take for a beginner.
    I hope he does yoga;}

    • vessto

      I’m sure Kyle was just the bait, the fire power through which Laampros was called. Anni said that silence would keep Kyle alive. Like “Be quiet and do not disturb my important deal.”

      • Fakesubmite

        Right he did say that silence would keep him alive but is the threat coming for Anni or Laampros?

        • vessto

          I think he meant Laampros.

          • Fakesubmite

            Fascinating.
            Mount him! mount him!

        • Steven Klimecky

          Unless it’s more that he better “be quiet and take it like a …whatever”, and not be able to struggle (hence being paralyzed), instead of being torn to shreds by the giant demon having to struggle even more to have his way.

      • Adi Zeller

        Alive can be a pretty broad term. Are we certain the Annihilator is going to leave a witness capable of telling on him, or attempting to foil whatever nefarious thing he’s concocting?

    • Steven Klimecky

      :_(

  • Mumin

    Ooooooh!

  • Denise Cruz

    Oooh! This can’t be good!..
    Duncan… Whata hell are you doing?! (worried) O.O

  • Niggle

    All I can say is: flarghidvhksjwtfkdjs O_O

    That is all.

  • Brennub

    My mouth was literally hanging open in shock when I read this just now. I would have never, EVER expected YP to go in this direction and I love that it has. Great writing, great art… I can’t wait for Saturday!

  • Cman65

    Have you not seen? We are just in somebodys elses hand, somebody far greater

  • Khun David

    Wednesday, September 9th before the next bonus strip? NO!!! I can’t wait until 2015 for that!!!

    • miles

      lol

    • Vasyl

      relax I think he meant october 9th

    • Jorn Bliki

      was thinking the same

  • miles

    Is Anni even really gay?

    • Lampy don’t care… he will be NOW!

      • xLizardx

        I like how he instantly has a nickname 😀

      • Amanda

        Fo’ Shizzle

      • Holly

        “I am not some trinket one places on their wall to brighten up the darkness. I am the Lord of Flame and Power. Call me not LAMPY!”

        • “Well Lord of Flame and Power, mind if I dim you down a bit, it’s getting late.”

  • Lampy… isn’t he’s the guy who… “One cock ring to rule them all, One cock ring to find them; One cock ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.”

    Erm… wait? I think I’m getting my dimensions confused.

    ALLLLLEEEEXXX!!!!

    • Sapfo

      Do he also have a wonderful personality?

    • Steven Klimecky

      Ha! (I actually had to smile at that one.)

  • Acheron Hades

    Okay… o__o” You’ve got my undivided attention.

  • Vik-Thor

    blink… blink… blink…

    oh my, this does not look good…

  • LL

    And suddenly this comic got super metal.

    • pinglederry

      XDDD

  • korimichele

    Oh Alex. Don’t work the kinks /out/ of your store. Work them /in/!

  • S+

    The list of everything that I was expecting might happen, did not include this.

  • xLizardx

    I love the “camera angle” following the wings in on the opening shot. It really conveys a sense of scale and motion – Alex’s movie-making roots coming out, maybe? 🙂

  • december

    Are they… in hell?

    • Amanda

      I don’t think so, at least I didn’t see them at work this morning….

    • Holly

      I Think they are in a hell dimension…

    • Adam Black

      that or western pennsylvania

      • Which parts are different? Are they in the Amish bit just now?

        • Adam Black

          Im not going to go to hell for you and find out

        • Adam Black

          ( think Hill people, deep southern accents and bad dentistry )

  • Onomatopoeia

    That demon guy’s kinda hot. Haha, bad pun.

    • Holly

      Apt though.

  • Calahara

    I thought the name Laampros looked familiar and it turns out to be one of the words used in anni’s spell.

    • Klaus

      Both spells, actually.

  • AliceVenturi

    Verrrrrrry interesting. So, Duncan has “crossed through the walls of blood and pain.” And what walls would those be? And whose blood and pain? It doesn’t look like either his or Kyle’s blood and pain. Yet, anyway – who knows what the next page will bring?

    How odd that I keep thinking about Spooky. This is more like his sort of fight, I would think. Which makes me wonder if this…eruption into mundane reality is going to set off alarms somewhere. Which further makes me wonder why he never took any of the adult teams up on their offers. Which makes me wonder about his reasons for pointing out the slash porn to the other guys. Which leads me to wonder…I could keep going, but I won’t. We’ll just have to wait and see. I’ve practically made a career out of barking up entirely wrong trees.

  • Klaus

    I misread that. It is not “through walls of blood and pain” but “through the walls …”. So it is just the (or a) name of the barrier between the worlds. The name was no doubt given for a reason. Even so, there may be ways of crossing that do not involve blood or pain.

    • SofiaT

      Maybe through trust and love and pleasure you manage to break the walls of blood and pain?

      • Denise Cruz

        I don’t think so… Do you remember when Anni said to Kyle that the spell increased the pleasure, significantly, so the kid shouldn’t have feeling any kind of pain or physical discomfort?
        Therefore, we can assume that whatever they were doing to Kyle, would’ve caused a lot of pain and discomfort, but, Anni took care of that, (PP’s spell), to preserve the kid.

        Well played, Anni! At least you did something good for him!

        • SofiaT

          He said that “one of the many effects of the spell” was to increase pleasure significantly, not that it was designed that way specifically to protect Kyle from pain. Not that that is not a possibility (almost anything is possible at this point), I just don’t think it was meant to be interpreted that way.

        • Steven Klimecky

          He did talk about the emotional pain of being betrayed and deceived and used and all that. Not to mention the pain and frustration of having one’s first sexual/intimate experience ruined and tainted in that way.

          • Point!

            (although I am kinda holding on to that pic of him in the first panel of the last page when he can’t speak and Kyle looks PISSED.)

            Someone’s gonna get some booty singed. Yep.

          • Denise Cruz

            True! He also said he would avoid giving Kyle any emotional pain, if he could…
            Yeah! Maybe it’s the emotional pain, then…
            I hadn’t thought about this part, only the physics…
            Well thought out, Steven!! 🙂

      • vessto

        I still wonder which blood and pain was that?

        • SofiaT

          Could be a metaphor. You know, it’s Hell (or something like it) after all, blood and pain seem logical enough for wall-building material 😀

          • vessto

            Maybe it is and the blood and pain is the Hell’s cover which he passed with Kyle’s power. Or as Denise says below he lied and meant Kyle’s pain (which he didn’t feel in fact).

            I don’t know… It is almost 3 am here and my brain is totally off…..

      • Steven Klimecky

        Strange way to end up in Hell though.

        • Damn straight! Someone got their directions messed up and too the WRONG exit. Just sayin’

  • Gergana Maltchanova

    Interesting… Hey, if Kyle is a Portal trough to the Fiery Dimensions, imagine how cool it would be if Tsunami was a Portal to the Great Watery Absolute, where giant mermaids rule… You can only get there through the walls of whales singing and the aroma of scented rosewood. He is kinda phobic to what Kyle represents anyway, so why not? 😉

    • xLizardx

      Quick, someone form a band called “The Great Watery Absolute” 😀 It would be post-rock or shoegaze, and full of atmospheric guitar, heavily reverbed, barely discernable vocals, and mixed back wave and seagull noises. 😀

      Come to think of it, it might sound a little like Irish band Villagers, but not as awesome, and less folky.

      • As long as no demons start to RIVERDANCE… I’d support that. 😉

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          It wouldn’t be hell without Michael Flatley.

          • Holly

            …And suddenly i am inspired to be a better person.

    • Holly

      The Great Watery Absolute probably has Cthulu. Which extra explains why Tsunami might be uncomfortable around…tentacles.

  • KiannaLeigh

    The Annihilator is acting humble. Shit just got real.

    • SofiaT

      “Acting” being the operative word.

      And I wouldn’t nominate him for an Oscar any time soon 😀

      • KiannaLeigh

        Glad I’m not the only one. Was I the only one who heard some overkill in his “humble” voice.

        • Humble isn’t a word that I would ever attribute to Duncan.

          • Denise Cruz

            Delicious fits him better! XDD

          • KiannaLeigh

            True. He probably would know humble if it smacked him in the face.

          • Maybe if 12ftandstudly smacked him. 😛 I’m actually pretty excited for Sats. page.

          • KiannaLeigh

            That is something I’d actually like to see. I think 12&s should put a little smackdown on him, just for demonic kicks. That would just be fun to read.

          • It’s a start. 🙂 Step one for his redemption?

          • KiannaLeigh

            Here here!

          • SofiaT

            Was just about to reply to K that “I would never use the words “humble” and “Duncan” in the same sentence” but then I saw your comment 😛

          • Great minds and all that. 😀

  • EldrinSMP

    Next page:

    Kyle: Hi, Dad! Umm, a little help please?

    Anni: $^!*

    Hehe, regardless, pretty awesome page!

    • Holly

      For my own sake, I REALLY don’t want Laampros to be revealed to be the sire/father/baby daddy or Kyle. For totally selfish reasons.

      • Wait, are you saying that 12ftandstudly is Kyle in the future? o.O

        • Holly

          I meant to say OF kyle. I don’t want him to be Kyle’s dad.

          But wow, what if Laampros is kyle from the future. OR part of Kyle. I mean…O_O Damn mind blown.

          • That would be so AWESOME! Kyle is 12ftandstudly!
            Now that would be a surprise to the Duncanator! I love this idea!! Who’s the invincible one now!

          • Holly

            I feel that Laampros is more ancient then Kyle. But being PART of Kyle is totally possible.

          • Like this is a realm within Kyle?

          • Holly

            No like Kyle’s power comes from this realm and Laampros. Like Kyle is a piece of Laampros.

            Or again, the whole spawn of him thing.

          • There is that. Unless what with the whole timey whimey thing going on, Kyle (pre 12ftandstudly transformation) was placed in this present time to grow up and so 12ftandstudly is actually Kyle’s past and future self.

          • Holly

            *brain short circuits, body bend over like unwound up tinker toy*

          • Didn’t mean to break you. 😛 How much blood did they take?

          • Holly

            Five viles. But the wait was really long so I ended up fasting for 13 hours instead of 8. *drinks more grape-wildberry*

          • So not only did they take blood, your bloodsugar has crashed. I suggest a doughnut.

          • Holly

            I don’t have dougnuts. But I have had one sandwich, one freezie, two cookies, and a bowl of Froot Loops. Plus juice. lovely lovely juice ^^

          • Tomorrow you can get the doughnut then. I love the ones that Super Target bakes (actually baked, not fried). Sooo good.

          • Holly

            We only recently got Target in canada, and the closest one to me is an hour on the metro…

          • Boooo! 😛 Well, time for plan b. What’s plan b?

          • Holly

            I drink Grape Juice?

          • Got more cookies? Another sandwich?

          • Holly

            yes I’ll finish up my cookies before bed ^^

          • Cookies, the next best thing to doughnuts on the magical scale.

          • Holly

            tell me of this scale

          • Well, when my blood sugar tanks, I have found that doughnuts trump cookies and work pretty quick. Cake can be too high octane and should be used sparingly.

            Sandwiches can be good, but when one’s bloodsugar is gone and one is ready to kill someone, I always end up with heartburn because I eat it too fast.

            Of course, sugar can be a two edge sword, giving me a headache, which is why I get cake doughnuts, but never with the white icing or glaze. Something about that white icing or glaze. Plain or chocolate icing is good.

            Probably more than you wanted to know. 😛

          • Holly

            naw I have many more questions that I shan’t ask. But that’s why I like juice. Quick sugar, not too filling. ^_^

          • Baked goods work best for me. Don’t get me started on muffins. 😛

          • Holly

            MUFFINS! I LOVE THEM. Did you know that a muffin is worse for you than a cupcake.

          • I’ve heard that. mmm cupcake.

            But I do love me a muffin. Poppy seed, chocolate, orange cranberry… mmmm

          • Holly

            mmm banana chocolate chip, Cranbanana Macadeamia nut, Blueberry, FruitSplosion.

          • Just load it with sugar and I’m good! 😛

          • Holly

            You need less sugar AJ. 😛

          • Most likely. 😀 But have you ever had a sugarless muffin?

          • Oh lord… don’t tell me Laampros is the Demon of Sugarless muffins? That’s End Of Days talk right there.

          • If you say his full name three times he’ll appear… with sugarless muffins which he baked himself. Are you going to tell him you don’t want one?

          • Welllllll yeahhh… I mean aren’t there some things worth dying a gruesome, but possibly sexy death for?

          • You have a point. A line must be drawn somewhere.

            Live by the muffin, die by the muffin.

          • Adam Black

            YES, thats what I have been saying.
            Kyles powers might be a realm, and they are in it

          • They did something like that in Inu Yasha. His father’s grave was hidden within a realm within his eye.

            I have to admit that confuses me some.

          • Adam Black

            I was thinking of the whole beings-that-are-places trope

            Fiddlers Green in Sandman…

          • One more thing to add to my wishlist.

            I can sort of see how that would work. I think

          • Adam Black

            its the Avatar of his firecrotch

      • EldrinSMP

        I agree, but it’d be a funny thing to see. 🙂

  • Anna Calloway

    Big, red, and either very well shaded or not very well endowed LOL

    • La Belle Gigi

      Or perhaps their true forms are sexless, like angels are supposed to be? Therefore shapeshifters, and whenever assigned a task they take on a gender and genitalia…

  • Lunam_Kardas

    …..Is this going to have a demonic sex scene in it like the movie ‘This is The End’?

  • Finooola

    Kyle is going to be a naked slave boy chained to a demon’s throne. I love that hoary old scene.

    • Holly

      Why is Kyle in Slave Leia Costume in my brain!? Of the million images of person chained to throne, why did my brain go “METAL BIKINI!!!” WHY?!

      • vessto

        Loool!! Lying in Laampros lap as Leia laid in Jabba’s.

  • Madock345

    Things aren’t about to get all demon-rapey, are they?

    (The bad part of me hopes they do. Bad self, BAD!)

    • SofiaT

      Nope. It’s been WoG’d.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      Not at all interested unless Anni ends up on the receiving end of the rape ……and severely chastized for even bothering Mr. Fire Demon ….all the while Mr. Fire Demon is complaining that he never COULD light up after sex because cigarettes just go *POOF* any where near him!

      • Holly

        There is a line in a story I wrote where basically the fire user blows some smoke out of his mouth after sex and his lover asks him why he doesn’t just use a cigarette like a normal person.

        • I want to read that!

          • Holly

            It’s from the superhero thing with Crim. Poor Crim, he’ll never see the light of day. Especially if my assumptions about Laampros are correct. Then the whole project gets scrapped. At that point there are just TOO many similarities.

          • Deep breath. 🙂

          • Holly

            Lack of blood may be hyping up my crazy levels…

          • Lack of blood can indeed do that. 🙂

  • vessto

    People, I don’t wanna break your delicious expectations (exactly the same as mine too) but I’m afraid that no sex will be involved with Laampros. For sorrow.:( Anni needs him for some important deal and going through blood and pain for just seeing demon rape of innocent boy is not exactly an important deal. Anni has big plans and I even suspect he’d betray Sircea at some level.

    • Holly

      Betraying Sircea is my delicious expectation. Demonic Vengence is wonderful.

      • vessto

        And *gasp* probably she also has a plan to betray him at some level. Double Demonic Vengence!!!

        *dreaming* Sircea is so angry to Anni for his betrayal that she wins over him and sells him as a sex slave to Laampros’s all-male harem.

        • Holly

          again with the demon sex….

          I refer you to my conversation at the top of the page about giant demon penises that I had with AJ

          • vessto

            I saw you both were quite passionate in debating.:D

          • Holly

            I have thought of the physics defying option as well for how one would sleep with Lampy. But that one is always stupid.

          • vessto

            I take Anni then.:) As my submissive.XD

          • Holly

            Okay than I take…um… gay… not my type… underage… um….

            *Pulls sword* I’ll fight you for…no wait I don’t want Anni.

            T_T I want a superhero sub.

          • vessto

            Then here’s the possible plot: Laampros has a twin, White Demon (1.80 cm; board hairy chess; long silver hair; icy blue eyes; no horns). His skin is sparkling and his *coughs* is made of shining steel. And of course, he’s good and all-helping superhero. He’s all yours.:D

          • Holly

            you have evil sexy plans. I am leaving you and your plans alone. *escapes*

          • Adam Black

            ive been called that. sortof

  • Lady_Hiroko

    Well this is certainly an interesting development…….Though I find the name a bit amusing. Kinda like naming a placid Chihuahua “Mauling Giant”.
    “So what’s your name you vile Demon?”
    “Petunia”.

    Dark_Otter: LMAO!!!!! That’s too perfect!!!!!

    Pup Ruff: I agree. The comments are just as fun as the comic. XD

    • Denise Cruz

      Petunia was great!! XDDDDDD
      Look at that huge red demon, name him ‘Petunia’ in your mind and try to avoid laughing… XDDDD

      • vessto

        Rosamund is another nice variant too.:)

        • Denise Cruz

          XDD And what about ‘Little Red Flower’?!
          God! Isn’t good that that thing can’t hear us?! I don’t wanna be eaten alive… (at least… nah! Anni isn’t a demon…)XDDDD

  • I am waiting for Laampros to be offered Kyle as a human sacrifice or for Kyle to be the progeny of a nude fire demon.
    You never know…

    • Denise Cruz

      Well, I don’t think Anni would get so much work to avoid pain and discomfort for Kyle, just to give him as a human sacrifice to some stupid demon… He’s an intelligent man. It would be a huge lost of time!
      Of course I can be wrong, but still.. It doesn’t look like Anni…

      • I’m sorry to be Mr. Bum-a-lot, but our little Kyle is paralyzed, chained to a (seemingly indestructible) bed IN HELL, by a man who just righteously betrayed him.

        I just can’t see the upside. I’m trying, honestly I am… and nope… no upside on the horizon and chapters and chapters to go before the promised triumph. Bleak city kids. Bleak city. Ho-hum, some Wednesdays are just like that, aren’t they? 😐

        • Xalun K

          If Kyle were going to be sacrificed, I doubt Anni would have gone through the trouble to tell him his inability to move or speak would likely save his life.

          I’m just sayin…

          • Denise Cruz

            Ditto!!!

          • Steven Klimecky

            No – it could be that not squirming or screaming when being abused or assaulted could mean that the demon might not tear you to shreds while he’s having his way.

        • Denise Cruz

          I totally understand your skepticism… But, if Anni was intending to sacrifice Kyle right there, why would he bother himself to get a spell which would avoid the pain and discomfort for the boy? Isn’t it a stupid thing to spend time on, if the kid would die, anyways?!
          Anni is really intelligent… Why would he do such a thing?

        • Steven Klimecky

          You got all that right (as usual).

    • vessto

      To be eaten or to be *coughs* by Laampros?

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    A bit off topic but I especially loved the “happy ending” print. The burning Noneco buildings in the background really are the cherry on top.

  • SadlySensible

    I’m with you. Although I am kinda hoping that Big ‘n Red has a familial connection with Kyle and will take great offense at Anni. “Wonder how you’d look squished between my toes? Let’s find out, shall we?”

  • Noely Tovar JaeJoong

    …the hell did i just read the past few pages

  • Soubi

    Sacrificial virgin, check. Bowing down to the naked demon, check. Offering up sacrificial virgin to the demon? Uh-oh. Anni, what, what, what are you doing?!

    • xLizardx

      ….Is he still a virgin, though? 🙂

      • Minh Tran

        He is since they only grind on each other.

        • Stubbylegs

          The I guess if a lesbian couple (or any other couple) never uses penetration of any kind, they’re virgins for life?

          • Minh Tran

            If the only thing you are doing is grinding then I don’t really count it as sex. They did no other activies other than grinding and kissing.

          • Holly

            Virginity is a social construct. I prefer the term Sexual Debut (thanks Laci Green), so it’s up to Kyle. But i feel like he will still think he’s a virgin, so it still counts as a virgin sacrifice, maybe.

          • I prefer the term maiden myself. I heard on some program years ago that people have misconstrued the term virgin that it actually just meant woman of marriageable age, not necessarily that she had no sexual experience.

          • vessto

            And sexual experience can be for years without penetration. I wonder why still some people put in frames something which never had, hasn’t and will never have exact borders as “virginity” and “orientation”.

          • Very true. People often like to label things even to the detriment of others.

          • vessto

            Yup.:( Everyone still hasn’t defined him/herself but started to define the others. Knowledge about the outside world always starts from the self-knowledge.

          • Very true

          • Adam Black

            Ive had dates like that….

          • Get in line. There’s a club being formed for that just now……….. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            We can call it “Just bite on this belt and stop squirming, I’m doing my part” club

          • Adam Black

            and thats the story of how Miriam became a virgin in Greek

          • I am unfamiliar with this story.

          • Adam Black

            How lucky you are.

            ( Roman soldier named Panterra , Palestine, cuckhold husband, Caspar did it excuse ) and the word for maiden got translated into Virgin . worlds most famous…

          • Huh. Okay then. It’s the men’s fault.

          • Adam Black

            It usually is.
            ( and when its not, the men had better lie. that never works . Although, in comic, this is atleast 30% Sircea’s fault. I am in the minority that wants some erotic times shown with her though. I’d like to see her try and seduce Kyle maybe in a parallel universe. )

          • Of course it is. It’s a universal law that it’s all the man’s fault. *snicker*

            As a side character, I wouldn’t mind seeing her strut her puma self. I never mind side trips. But I would wonder if Kyle would turn things around and bind her. (Ummm, yeah, I said it. Bad me)

          • Adam Black

            It may work universally, but fails in the particulars.

            I grew up a household of women. To this day my mother and sisters do nothing but viciously complain about each other to me, one drama after another— yet they put each first. When there isnt enough men, the claws come out.

          • Women do indeed get ugly, men around or not, sometimes because men are around. Kinda sad really and that’s speaking as a woman.

          • Adam Black

            Growing up, I thought i understood women.
            I was very wrong.

            Now I think WHY a women says something, almost always trumps what they literally say. That context is usually taken for granted or not shared. The context is often the real communication. and I usually get it wrong.

            I am not exempting gay men from this. Most gay men are more mercurial than women.
            which may explain I am alone.

          • I don’t think women can ever be understood, not even by other women, especially when you cross the cultural lines. And forget men figuring us out.

            And that is an interesting observation, the why of something is said vs what actually passes the lips. It’s easy to forget that others can’t read my mind.

          • Adam Black

            I was concerned it would come across sexist.

            In a culture, does seem to be common cultural assumptions among women how they use language. But often from a male perspective, to listen to a woman correctly means to throw away the words entirely, construct a social and emotional context, examine it in that light, and then add the words back in. All of which most men are very poor at doing, and to most women seems to be a second nature.

            I have figured this out too late for it to be any good for me. On the other hand, most gay men seem to be a culture to themselves. I am wondering if FTM are less complicated than either.

          • It didn’t seem sexist at all. Women are difficult. As one, I sometimes drive myself crazy trying to infer what somewhat meant instead of just taking their words at face value.

            I’ve been watching my parents try to deal with each other, well, my whole life (they’ve been married 44 yrs). To add to mess of just men and women communicating differently, my dad has Asperger’s, so yeah that’s always fun.

            As for FTM, I read an interview somewhere with Chaz Bono who stated that after starting testosterone that he found it annoying all the chatting that women did. It’s always possible that these men could be a bunch more complicated.

          • Adam Black

            Binding her back , is just fair play

          • Kinda my thoughts on the matter. And hot if done right. She would probably like it anyway. A bit like evil Kyle.

          • Stubbylegs

            We’ll definitely have to agree to disagree on that one…

          • vessto

            For me the orgasm is what makes someone virgin or not. And Kyle’s had his very powerful one. And yes, mast. counts too.

            It is very delicate question and penetration could never be the answer. Lesbians or males and females who never had lovers for some reason (like me) and make it with no penetration FOR YEARS. How this could be a virginity?? Yes, I’m still “whole”. And yes, I have many orgasms per week. Am I a virgin?

        • Steven Klimecky

          Nah – I still say he had a kind of sex. Maybe he’s still a virgin to anal or oral intercourse, but he just had a def. sexual experience. If you are naked and in bed with another naked person on top of you and you are grinding your genitals into each other and rubbing them together to the point of orgasm, I’d say that’s a kind of sex. It doesn’t seem a great difference to me (in defining a sex-act) whether the penis is rubbing up against the walls of some orifice – anal, vaginal, or oral – or rubbing on another hard penis until climax. Anyway, would count as sex for me.

    • Chibi

      …. if kyle were to get it on with that guy … based on his size .. I think he would die >> ..

    • Holly

      I get the feeling Laampros and Kyle are already bound together somehow…

      OOO maybe the orgasm flames is Laampros trying to keep people from touching Kyle. For reasons…

      • Soubi

        Lmao! Yes. Just, yes.

  • Chibi

    kyles orgasm summoned the devil from hell >>

    • Awww, like we all haven’t had THAT date! 🙂

      • Chibi

        yep because the orgasm is SOOO good that your scream raises the devil ::nods:: … MAKES SENSE TO ME!!! XD

        • Steven Klimecky

          Must be nice.

          • Oh come one… methinks thou has screamed up a few devils in your time. Your just being modest. 🙂

      • rgleon9986

        “Hey, you up for dinner, a movie, and after a quick trip into a dimension of unspeakable horror and pain to make a deal with an eldritch abomination for ultimate power in exchange for your eternal soul?”

        • LOL… you payin’?

        • Holly

          “Oh sweetie you know I can’t. Last time we went to the unspeakable dimension of pain and horror we ended up bringing home a whole shroud of ghouls. It took me forever to send them back to the realm of atrocities from which they came. Besides, I thought we agreed to only sacrifice YOUR soul.”

  • xLizardx

    I’m gonna hazard a guess on him being the dude that lights up the place.

    ….*Lamp*-ros, geddit?

    OK, I’ll shut up now 🙂

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    He was using Kyle the whole time! I hope “Lampros” is “Not impressed”

    • Holly

      “My vessel seems…pleased. I, however, am not.”

  • Finzz

    Hunk of burning love, eh? Well that fuzzy tummy definitely has my attention ^^ I’m all eyes your godliness.

  • Can I get some odds on Mr. 12ftandstudly smacking the Duncanator one with one of those big meaty hands of his.

    • Holly

      Slim. I think Duncan is smart enough and civil enough not to piss of the Demon Lord. Though honestly I have so many more questions about Kyle’s powers now. Like are they infernal. Is he a conduit of Laampros?! Is Kyle going to get sexy demon powers?!

      • Lots and lots of questions. We’ve joked down further that 12ftandstudly is his father. I’m betting that his powers are infernal.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Or his big meaty …

  • Kellen Connor

    Oddly enough, I don’t think I would have forgiven the Annihilator for anything less than this. If he was trying to boost his own power, or gain energy for some arcane weapon, or open a portal to an alternate timeline, I would have found his betrayal of Kyle inexcusable. But… I don’t think anyone as smart as the Annihilator would summon the devil without a damn good reason. (Possibly even a literal Good reason.) So he gets a pass.

    Yeah, my mind works in mysterious was sometimes.

  • KryX

    At least Kyle can’t say that Anni never takes him anyplace. If you’re the kind of kid that flames on when you get turned on, you have to expect these things will happen.

  • Megan Staples

    The store looks GREAT, Alex!

  • jreed3842

    Eh. You’re probably right. Well… I can at least admire the chest. Lol.

  • jreed3842

    Meet Kyle, from The Young Protectors, he is about to have sex with Duncan… his orgasm will lead to summoning an evil demon from Hell. This fate could have been avoided IF he had a sassy Gay Friend.
    “What are you doing? What, What, What are you doing?!”

  • Flyboy…is going seriously overboard with the Photoshop. He must be a huge Hellboy fan. (http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-34/#comment-1065622479).

  • Katana_X

    Kinda wondering if Spooky would have access to or knowledge of this place/dimension. I <3 him, so I hope he takes a more prominent role in this later on…

  • Ellen Harman

    He says walls of bloo and pain. However is it not actually walls of fire and pleasure? At least on Kyle’s part.

    • Holly

      I am going to assume that those are just what the dimensional gates are called. If they are in some kind of Hell dimension, one must assume there are doors and gates. So even if the method was fire and pleasure, maybe the gates are just called blood and pain.

      • That’s what I was thinking, too – probably just a dramatic name.

  • Holly

    Am I woozie from my blood drawing or is that a giant red horned demon man in this world of flame?! Also, I have questions about the Giant Eyeball who was on the last page.

    So Laampros was told to expect Duncan? Told by who? What is his purpose? Can Kyle see of all of this? What is HE thinking? I can see why him being silent was important though. Oh Saturday cannot come soon enough!

    • I want to know who told 12ftandstudly to expect the Duncanator

      • Holly

        AJ don’t go climbing up demons until we find out what they are. *shakes head and laughs*

        • Tina

          But that’s the best way TO find out. Yes, yes go little AJ, find out all there is to know about this strange demon and report back! If you can walk that is…

        • Considering I can’t climb a tree… 😛

          • Holly

            *eyes Laampros* Um..yeah I would say that Tree Trunk is exactly the dimensions we are looking at. *brain flashes with an image* NO! BAD BRAIN! BAD! AJ does not want to hear that!!!!

          • Oh no, AJ wants to hear that.

          • Holly

            Very well. I was once made aware of an hentai in which there was this demon lord and his dick was like a tree trunk. So obviously all his little concubines couldn’t ride it, so they like just rubbed themselves on it. Like a full body handjob…. Yeah. I don’t know how it ends, that kind of crossed the weird threshold for me.

          • Yeah, that does break the brain a bit. *eyeing 12ftandstudly* Yeah, definitely tree trunk.

      • rgleon9986

        I expect PP did.

    • Denise Cruz

      The freaking eyeball seems to be out of our view, for now… (Thanks, God!!)
      Yes! The big red horned demon is there. You are not insane! 🙂
      I believe that PP was the one who contacted Laampros about Duncan… And Kyle… well, Laampy would probably want eat him alive if he talk something. So… Quiet!

  • Holly

    In a bout of selfishness, I really hope Lampaaros doesn’t have THAT much to do with Kyle’s power and origins. I’m on the verge of scrapping my superhero comic just because of how damn similar Crim is to Kyle. I wouldn’t be able to deal with people saying I’m ripping off Alex. 🙁

    • Just sit on it. You never know in another year or two you might find away to change things.

      But there are a lot of stories that are similar.

      • rgleon9986

        I second this. Stepping away from a project can really help some new thoughts develop while you do other things. You’d be surprised how much it can help.

      • Holly

        Changing things in this case would be to dump the idea of Crim all together. He’s kind of tied for main character. In a very literal sense, the main character wouldn’t exist without him. They are kind of bound by fate.

        • As a writer myself, sometimes just sitting on something allows different paths to present themselves. It’s not always the change in character, but the path they follow. Maybe a different background. Maybe a different motivation. Change can come in different ways.

          • Holly

            Honestly, there are very few similarities. It’s just a cursory glance issue of “Red headed male fire powered superhero in a relationship with very powerful villain.” Plus infernal stuff. Like I know Crim and Lacey’s history explicitly, to the point of things that will never ever be revealed. So changing him at all feels like a time traveler stepping on a butterfly.

            It doesn’t matter really. I’ll be sitting on this for life. It’s way to visual, and I lack drawing skills and money for pros alternatively.

          • Oh, I have characters I thought for certain were a certain way, had the whole thing pretty solidified in my mind, but sometimes you need to step on that butterfly. 🙂 You would be amazed of what that can do, sometimes things get better.

            I came to this story, it was because of the hero/villain, but there can be more than one. Look at all the paranormal romances.

            As for not being able to have it drawn, you never know with these things. What is happening now, may be different later

          • Holly

            My inner angsty thing does not appreciate your calm reassuring logic. It does not like it.

            I appreciate it. It makes me feel better. But my inner angsty thing is just pouty now. XP

          • Trust me I understand. Oh do I understand. I think every writer has that inner angsty thing. I definitely have it. I prefer the term inner idiot. Because really, that voice telling you that it sucks, no one will like this, etc etc is just an idiot.

            I would be more worried if you didn’t have it.

    • Like the others said. Step away from it for a bit. I’ve driven myself insane a few times trying to figure out how to change a character who was similar to someone elses.
      Just give it and yourself some room to breath. Let your characters blow you away, while they take you to places you can’t even imagine.
      And either way there is always going to be some loser comparing your stuff to things… even if they are nothing alike. Or reading far too much into one little thing and disregarding it all.
      =o BTW! Is this comic of yours being posted somewhere? I’d be interested in checking it out too.

      • Holly

        Thanks. And it’s not currently anywhere. I can’t draw, and I haven’t been able to find an artist. The ones I love charge too much (totally deserve it), and the ones I like who don’t charge too much want creative control. -_-”

        Plus also there is a huge issue with the tone. I’m not sure if it’s serious, comedic, or something in between. It’s really hard to explain “interdimensional bunnies” to people without them thinking it’s silly. (It’s actually really cool, it just sounds funny.)

        • Nothing wrong with a bit of humor mixed in because even in the midst of something dead serious folks find a way to laugh. Life isn’t just one thing. 🙂

          Crap, am I lecturing again? Sorry. I’m usually the one being lectured. But your story sounds awesome.

        • I’ll admit I giggled at the bunnies… sorry. DX

          Aside from the layout of a page I don’t see why they should have any input. The story is your baby not theirs.
          If I was a better artist I would offer to help but… I doubt my style (if you can even call it that) would be what you are looking for. Well I should also practice more. .-.

          As far as tone. It sounds like it could easily go from light hearted comedic moments to serious. Personally I don’t see that as a bad thing. There is so much that can be done with tone.

          But doesn’t the tone really depend on the characters disposition and the current situation?

          A goofball who makes wisecracks might be suddenly silenced by the gravity of what is going on. Or try to crack a joke to lighten the mood and end up starting a fight.
          Where as a serious character might silently ignore everything else and be looking for a way to resolve the situation. Of course the goofball would add a comedic element to the moment but it would also illustrate that the situation is a tad desperate.

          If you are just writing it right now. You can always go back through it and tweak things. If you decide the mood isn’t right there is always a way to salvage what you have. Just try not to stress too much over these things.

          *Flails* Nyah, I know I haven’t heard much but now I’m curious! Do you have a DA account I can stalk?

          • Holly

            My dA account possesses very little stuff. And nothing related to the comic. Just two fanfics and some pictures.

            One person told me they didn’t want their name attached to anything subpar, and the other one just had a lot of ideas for the story. His idea was basically start out RIDICULOUSLY silly and then have it end eventually with Crim dying, Lacey going insane, Crim coming back as an all powerful fire elemental with no memory of her, and then KILLING HER to save the world.

            The man problem is finding people who can draw animals as well…

          • Mines is full of crappy art that never should have seen the light of day one fanfic I might never finish and… nope thats it. Someone was disappointed that despite my name being SinfulSari… I don’t do porn. Awkward laughing…

            Subpar… so one snooty jerk. Did that one even let you pitch the story?
            And the other… wanted to turn Crim into some weird Deadpool spawn hybrid? Blah

            Well you could just write it out. Post it to your DA mentioning in the description you hope to make it a comic one day. If nothing else someone might bite.

          • Holly

            That is kind of funny.

            NO they didn’t let me pitch. No not Deadpool, more Dr. Manhatten or Captain Atom.

            I’m worried if I write it out and just post it on dA someone will just steal the idea. I’ve seen it happen.

          • … So they decided it was subpar based on nothing. What a jerk. Maybe its good you didn’t get to pitch.
            That… is a very good point. Hmm. Smackjeeves has a thing when you create a comic that sets it to look for a coauthor. You could say you are looking for an artist and see what happens?

          • … So they decided it was subpar based on nothing. What a jerk. Maybe its good you didn’t get to pitch.
            That… is a very good point. Hmm. Smackjeeves has a thing when you create a comic that sets it to look for a coauthor. You could say you are looking for an artist and see what happens?

          • Holly

            I might have to try that. ^_^

          • Hope it works out. D= And dun forget to link me if it does! I wants to see the interdimensional bunnies…

          • Holly

            Okay I need to make some sample scripts and then make some requests.

          • Good luck! *Flails*

  • Holly

    I feel like escalated quickly was a page ago. This seems to be proportionate.

  • Holly

    Depending on the kind of Hell system Alex is working with, I think he is probably one of the Circle Lords. However, one cannot be sure. I do agree he’s probably pretty high ranking. I don’t think Duncan would go to all this trouble for a lowly Captain. Definitely Duke or equivalent and higher

  • Holly

    I feel like in this scenario a bunny would have been more of a plot twist.

  • Holly

    Exactly. The last thing he needs is Kyle asking questions and pissing off Laampros

  • Sapfo

    Hi page.

    You are now about 24 hours old and I do admire you.

    Your creator has already shown an ability to make fire interesting and lifelike. Showing now also samples of bat wings texture and color that I think is very interesting. This despite, my love page, your creators trying to distract me with a big hunk of man.

    and I have to say that the dot over the ‘i’ is probably the little pearl.

    Although I got weird theories and ideas from look at you, I will probably leave the real analyzing for the next page. I do hope that page will not distract my in the same maner as you have done.

    Happy 24 hours birthday Page!

    • Sapfo,

      I say this with love and respect… but, how long have you been inside? I’m think you need to get more. You know? With real people?

      Like OUT out. I don’t want to be a huge bummer, but you can’t date this page, not matter how sexy and leathery you think he is. Not that you’re not pretty enough or anything. ‘Cause you are… but… well… it’s a PAGE. It’s stuck here and in Alex’s computer and it isn’t going to pay for diner or drinks. It just can’t. So, it’s gonna be a bum-date (not to mention a bum-lay, later). So, from a friend. I think you need to move on.

      Now next Saturday’s page? I hear he’s a hottie. But hands off… he’s MINE!

      Best,
      ChrisD

      • Sapfo

        Hi, I take offence by that.

        just had at 6 hour date with mr Pillow. Okay it ended in a nightmare. But a man throw a snake at me in the dream (please do not analyz that fact that a man throw a snake at me….yes I know, but it was a dead snake. It had a hook through it head…..i know, not making this any better)

        And today I have a long date with Mrs. Master’s Thesis, and she’s a tough mistress.

        Of all of them Mr Page have been the kindes to me.

        • Perfectly understandable (rolls eyes) and I’m sorry if it sounded judgmental (rolls eyes again) I just wanted to make sure you and Mr. Page weren’t headed for disappointment… but after that dream… well it’s just up up up! 😀

        • Steven Klimecky

          I can relate to those types of dates – story of my life.

      • Denise Cruz

        LOL What should I say about this?!
        I think that Saturday’s page is pretty shy, right now!
        But, don’t worry about it! I’m trying to make it understand that, sometimes, it’s annoying to be hot! XDD

  • New and improved crazy idea. Mr. 12ftandstudly (Lampy) is Kyle’s future self.

    • Klaus

      Or maybe Duncan transforms Laampros into a human baby and hurls him 18 year into the past.

      • Why would he do that?

        • vessto

          To re-rise him as a supervillain but under his control (control he now doesn’t have upon Laampros). Maybe this is a trap for Laampros, not a deal suggestion (or a trap masked as a deal suggestion).

          • But he didn’t raise him as a supervillain. Unless he’s doing this as a do over?

          • vessto

            I added this as a development of Klaus’s supposition mainly but in general I don’t tend to fully expect this to hapen. Why to risk to raise again supervillain as he may become a good person again (as Professor Dumbledore says not our features make us what we are but our choises). Anni couldn’t be sure what path this new supervillain-to-be baby would choose. And we have one ready supervillain, why to re-made him. Maybe the plan is replacing Kyle with Laampros (which is for some reason connected with Kyle). Abandonned twin also maybe?

          • Which is partly why I brought up the fixed point. Kyle is a hero.

          • Klaus

            The admiral suggested that Laampros may be the future Kyle. I then suggested that he may the past Kyle.

          • vessto

            *scrolls up* Yeah, the mother post is like 40-50 comments above.XD

            Then we have very good set of suggestions about Kyle being Laampros at some point:

            Kyle’s his future self. (AJ)

            Kyle’s his past self. (Klaus)

            Kyle’s his mirror self from paralel universe. (my suggestion and I’m sure other people have this suggestion written too)

            Kyle’s his alter ego. (another my theory)

        • Steven Klimecky

          To create Kyle, he may have been implying.

          • I’m just not certain how that would work for what was going on now. Other than to get to now, but what exactly does that gain Duncanator.

            Edit: Brain is sleep deprived and not working properly

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yeah – I know. I was just trying to interpret the comment, rather than analyze its implications.

          • I wasn’t certain which way you were going so I err’d on the one side.

    • vessto

      Mirror universe where superheroes from this world are supervillains. Hmmm, then I wonder how Anni’s superhero reflection could look. Maybe exactly this his good alter ego told Laampros aka Kyle’s evil alter ego to expect this meeting?

      • Not mirror, just him in the future. We don’t know where Kyle’s powers come from, so what if this was his adult form? That begs the question, is Duncan aware of that?

        • vessto

          In the future that might be (future is always in motion). Calling him he try make this might-be-future as sure as possible.

          • Very true. But if Duncan knows that’s Kyle’s future self, he’s kinda taking his life in his hands I would think, especially bringing his past self before him. But then, if that is Kyle’s future self, can he be in the presence of his past self?

            Although, according to Doctor Who, there are fixed points in history, ones that can’t be changed.

          • Adam Black

            except when he changes them.

          • And yet that never quite works out right and usually fixes itself rather messily. Except when he saved Peter Capaldi from Mt. Vesuvius.

    • Holly

      KYLE IS THE YIN TO LAMPY’S YANG AND BY THEIR POWERS COMBINED…..*powers down*

      • Sorry folks, it appears I broke Holly.

        • Holly

          My body does not have enough energy to power the SUPER AWESOME THEORY MACHINE in my head.

          • vessto

            Lol, indeed you both are Yin and Yang today!:D

          • We can’t be 100% all the time. Seriously, a doughnut. Doughnuts have magical powers.

          • Holly

            It’s 4am the coffee shops are all closed. And the closest 24 hours grocery is like 5km.

          • Booo!

          • Holly

            Now back to yin/yang theory.

          • Wait, wait, I get it now. One would not exist without the other. Because 12ft&studly exists, Kyle exists. One must always exist. Am I right?

          • Holly

            Yeah, which is why Kyle can’t be taken out by villains. Then Anni can’t use or get help from Laampros. Though now I have images of Kyle sacrificing himself to stop it all.

            Thank Jellybeans that Alex would never kill Kyle. ^_^

          • Mmm jellybeans.

            That in itself would be a fascinating story. One half demon, one half human. They would have to be killed at exactly the same time, the wound in the exact same place. One tenth of a second off and they rise.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            That was a plot on the cartoon Gargoyles. Demona and MacBeth did this so they could be immortal.

          • You are correct. As I was typing that out, that did pop into my head (I loved that cartoon). But I think to die, one had to kill the other.

          • vessto

            Then soon we should see the “twin” of Anni too. *imagines shy teen with blond to silver hair and puppy look*

          • That’s kinda funny.

          • vessto

            And he’ll be as shy that he’ll stammer.

          • vessto
          • Holly

            Aww that’s so sweet!

  • ScorpioladyCZ

    Oh… interesting and cool. Very cool.

    Gets more and more interesting every page I read…

  • vessto

    I’m sure it is fire when he’s erected.:)

  • vessto

    There are some good BL webcomics which are updated in other days. The greatest is that all are so different from each other so I really have much fun.

  • vessto

    I got a new theory, what if Laampros exists inside of Kyle only as a one of all his possible but not realized selves. No mirror existing univesre but only a virtual possibility. Anni made the spell touching Kyle’s chest (solar plexus) which is like human’s most important astral spot. As if he made a connect with Kyle’s core and the mighier of all Kyle’s unrealized selfs. That would mean that Anni could suggest the deal to make Laampros really existing (Kyle sent inside of Laampros as an unrealized self indeed).

    Only one good thing here – in a possible love relationship Anni will be the uke now!!!

    • That’s always possible too.

    • Holly

      Vessto makes up the most amazing theory ever… as an excuse to make Anni bottom. Tsk tsk XP

      • vessto

        Just seeing him on knees in panel 4 and with these half-pupy eyes in panel 5…. I find this extremely erotic in fact.XD I’m ready to cross the universe to have such hot man in my feet.

  • Vincent

    “Asmodae? Wait, Daedra-I mean, Diablo-I mean Chernebog-!! Wait that’s not right. Dammit. Laampros!”
    Little known fact: His name is actually Mittens. And now you know.

    • ཟློད་

      Just like Romney…!

  • ཟློད་

    This page gives us vital information–that “Laampros” is a proper noun–and leaves us with further mysteries. For example, why the double vowel? Does it represent two syllables, either separated by a glottal stop (“La’ampros”) or a very elongated vowel (like the initial of Oomoto)? Or is it designed to make English speakers pronounce “Laampros” with what they would call a long vowel (ɑ as in father) rather than a short one (æ as in cat)? Or is it an artifact of transliteration? In any case (ha! see what I did there?) it seems that the name is not declined, which in turn suggests a word-order based grammar.
    I note in passing the interesting information that demons seem to have all of the same body parts that humans do–including, most crucially, the lips, tongue, palate, etc. One might suppose such a large creature to have difficulty with some of the higher vowels (but compensate with a language that encompasses lower-pitched ones that humans would find difficult to utter). But perhaps the air is thinner in hell because of all the fire.
    Unfortunately, it seems that Duncan has given up on attempting to communicate in…what shall we call this language? Demotic Demonic?
    Interestingly, one of the biblical uses of the Greek lampros (shining, splendid) is from Rev. 22:16, where it refers to Jesus as the “bright morning star.” The Greek word, “phosphorous,” is related to the “heosphoros” (Is. 14:12) from the Septuagint, that gets translated as “Lucifer” by the Vulgate.

    • SofiaT

      I commented below about the meaning of Lucifer (Eosphoros) as the bearer of light, but with one detail -that might or might not turn out to be important: for the ancient Greeks, Eosphoros is a metaphor for the keeper of knowledge. Unlike in the biblical tradition, where Lucifer is a incarnation of evil, for the Greeks Eosphoros was never evil -knowledge cannot be evil in itself (you bet your ass that if you told ancient Greeks about the story of Adam & Eve, they’d all say “BITE THAT APPLE!”).

      So, once again, I wonder if Duncan is seeking an audience with Mr. Laampros here because he’s after a certain knowledge.

      • vessto

        *sighs* Yes, knowledge definitely is a pain in the ass of the ones that need us to be a mindless cattle. *bites the apple*

      • ཟློད་

        Not an apple–probably a fig or pomegranate. Or as Eddie Murphy once speculated, marijuana. (And on that note, the above scene reminds me of one in the musical version of Reefer Madness. Not to mention Spooky Mormon Hell from the Book of Mormon…) Other parallel ANE myths apparently do have eating the fruit be a good thing, as do some of the gnostics.
        The verse from Isaiah is not really about “Lucifer” as we understand the term–that is a Christian projection / midrash with roots, probably, in Zoroastrian influence. But the kinship between Christ and Satan is evocative, and makes me think of the identity (discovered much later) of Phosophorus and Hesperus, the morning and evening star. A wonderfully nondual symbol!
        I neglected to mention that the magic text that we have so far lacks any “i” or “e” sounds, so perhaps Laampros (stress uncertain) does not have those in his language, due to the size of his vocal apparatus. He must sound like a throat-singer or a didgeridoo.

        • Okay, I’m gonna say I’m highly entertained despite my lack of comprehension. (not a totally unusual state, but worth noting). Thank you.

        • SofiaT

          Phosphorus/Eosphoros, and Hesperus are the morning/evening star (Aphrodite/Venus), and had been long before the Christians decided to make Lucifer a version of Satan. They were both mentioned in Homer about 1,000 years before Jesus decided to take a walk on Planet Earth. Eosphoros (Lucifer) was a symbol of knowledge since before then.

          On another note, in the Bible, Jesus is also referred to as “the morning star” but the wording is different: the translation from Greek (the language the Gospels were first written in) in English is: “the bright star of dawn”. I don’t know how that was translated into Latin. Interesting that the morning star is used there to describe both Jesus and Satan -unless the Satan mention is really a fabricated/imagined one, but then again I’m not a bible scholar so I’ll leave that to those who know what they’re talking about.

          Also, good point on the fig/pomegranate -I was just going with the “popular” version.

          • Adam Black

            I had that same thought, re : morningstar used in opposite senses.

          • ཟློད་

            What I mean is, it took some time for astronomers to realize that they are the same celestial body. The identity of the two is a famous semantic problem, referenced (ha! see what I did there?) by Frege and Kripke. I guess what I’m trying to say is…that the devil is really Jesus? (Okay, the Latin from Revelation is “…ego sum radix et genus David stella splendida et matutina…” so no Lucifer–which is anyway uncapitalized in Isaiah–but it’s too good of an idea not to use, so shemhamforash!)

          • Upvote for using ‘shemhamforash’ in a sentence. Nice work!

          • Adam Black

            makes sense to a non-christian

          • SofiaT

            As far as I know, the Greeks were aware that the morning and evening star were one and the same (Aphrodite) -yet they created the gods Esperos and Eosphoros as two different entities in full knowledge of that fact.

            It’s not the first time in Greek mythology a celestial body symbolizes more than one person -Helios & Apollo are both the Sun for example, and many heroes like Achilles,Perseus, Adonis, Theseus and of course Heracles are also considered “solar-heroes”.

            Actually, I suspect our Kyle is a solar hero too.

          • Adam Black

            that makes sense too

          • SofiaT

            I was trying to find a way to explain in english the concept of the solar hero and I bumped into this: http://www.annebaring.com/anbar12_lect18_lunarhero.htm

          • Adam Black

            hmm

        • Steven Klimecky

          “Throat-singer or a didgeridoo” – that would be COOL. Maybe he’ll give those old Tuvans or Aussie aboriginals a run for their money.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Though Lucifer was not originally an incarnation of evil – he was not, in fact, incarnated AS evil, if he was incarnated at all, as he was a spiritual/angelic being. He started out as one of the most brilliant and effulgent and beautiful and promising of God’s servants, until he rebelled, etc. I have a feeling you’ve read your Milton.

        • Adam Black

          You proved my point. Modern Christianity is heavily based on medieval fiction.
          wait till Lost is cannonized. at least church will be interesting.

          • Oh can’t we canonize a better show than LOST? Please… I’ll still remain a blasphemer and destined to hell if that’s the show of redemption….

          • Adam Black

            You need a cannon where the mystery never makes sense, and can’t be wrung out.

            You’ll be a “leave the Islander” and you’ll be at war with the “Others” who want to stay. You’ll fit right in

          • God you’re so right…… arg.

          • Adam Black

            Dude, that makes you the smoke monster

        • SofiaT

          Paradise Lost? Haven’t read that in ages! (and only got interested in it because of His Dark Materials trilogy to be honest!)

          Any likeness to Milton is completely accidental -I wasn’t thinking of the biblical Lucifer but the original Eosphoros as he was created by the Greeks. A lesser god, who is by no means evil and serves as the keeper of knowledge. Similar to Prometheus, who “brings fire” (aka technology) to human kind.

          I don’t know why the medieval Christians decided to change his form and tell he’s the Satan… except for the obvious fact that anything pagan to them was evil and nobody but Jesus himself could be bringing light to humans.

          Classic case of envy.

          • Adam Black

            lack of imagination.

          • SofiaT

            Yep, that too.

      • Adam Black
    • Very interesting post. Thank you.

    • Adam Black

      and Daemons arent evil … unless they are, same as people. “Evil Daemons” werent even adopted into Christian mythology until the middle ages

      and Lucifer originally referred to “the morning star” , which is Venus.

      Phosphorus for a bright hell, makes total sense. In a few hundred years hell will be just another gay afterlife, and the true bad place, will be seen to be filed with Borg, Silence and weeping Angels.

      • I’ll bet you talk like this on dates too…….

        • Adam Black

          No,

          Put on Doctor Who and fuck —like any normal person.

          • Wise… so wise.

          • Adam Black

            of course, when I *play* doctor who it also involves fuzzy handcuffs, cosmic horror snakes and giant eyes.
            Kissograms , indeed!

          • Is this your ‘regular doctor’ or when you’re playing the ‘Jolly’ Proctologist?

          • Adam Black

            Actually my regular doctor is young, smart and attractive and hopefully is too busy to see this comment.
            ( and happily married )

          • SNAP

            *sound of rubber gloves being donned*

          • Adam Black

            life imitates art all the time.

          • Only when lucky…..

          • Adam Black

            I have a really good Policeman story. Which does play out like a porno from start to finish.

            I was kind of like Kyle on his first date.

            If you are invited to “hang out” with a cop who stops you, and wants you to go , is that consensual ?

            South Boston is full of surprises

          • I’m not sure I’m qualified to comment on South Boston… it’s trickier than North Boston and that’s not easy either. I’m afraid to ask… was there a hell dimension involved? Or was South Boston sufficient unto itself?

          • Adam Black

            um map?

            There is no “North Boston”.
            Charles River, Evil Cambridge, hah-vahd

            ( Thats what you get for thinking ‘Mystic River ” is a documentary )

            High on ecstacy and getting serviced by uniformed public servant, on-duty?

            It was a wedsesday night at 2am , not like i had something better to do .

          • “High on ecstacy and getting serviced by uniformed public servant, on-duty?”

            You get to the porn just as I reallllly need to go to sleep. You’ve kept me up with your fascinating banter. However, you’re right I don’t even know what city I’m in any more. I’ve become blurry company. So sorry.

            (*mutters* Chicago, land of Oprah?, Great lakes? nope… no idea… must sleep… *mumbles* xxy chromo-something, klinefliers… snooooore)

            But whatever city… there a story of a uniform, extacy and Weds at 2am… I’ll stop by tommorow. Try not to lose your memory. It’s ages until Saturday’s page and there really ISN’T anything better to do. *grins*

          • Adam Black

            its lasted this long….

          • Okay, be kind, remember I just woke and I’m on my first cup of java…

            So are you saying you’re still high? Or that this was last night and most of our posting happened after you’d kicked the uniformed pubic servant out and were coming down on ecstasy, or am I just confused again.

            Damn brain spiders… it’s not like they can’t breathe through the hole in my…

          • Adam Black

            No, this was like 11 years ago.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I’d love it if I lived or could live in Chicago as well. If I had lived in Chicago or Boston or DC, etc. I’m more certain I would probably have found at least one significant other (or at least one real bf) in my 35 years of looking. The kinds of things y’all are talking about just don’t happen around here – well, at leat they never do to me. My life has never been one to imitate ant kind of wild fantasy or porn 🙁 .

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – Boston – that partially explains it – must be WONDERFUL to live in a major metropolitan area full of all kinds of venues and institutions of culture and sophistication. I’d love living in Boston.

          • Adam Black

            grass is always greener somewhere else.

            Boston is a wonderful, wonderful, amazing, place to vist, filled with little festivals, a big underground music scene, outdoor concerts, inexpensive ocean/river sports, museums, orchestras , plays, open art studios every weekend somewhere, gay clubs, and you could visit and and be very happy.
            —-And I DO NOT recommend moving here. I want to leave SO BAD!!! great place to visit though.

          • Adam Black

            just realized that a song now.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Y’all really DO lead charmed lives.

          • Adam Black

            Charm like a curse maybe.

            Charmed with suckitude.

          • Steven Klimecky

            From your story about the policeman, I’d infer you meant “suck”itude in the good sense.

          • Adam Black

            takes a lot of bad police stories to luck out and get blown once. There is more to life than living random porn scenes

          • Steven Klimecky

            As far as my experience goes, there isn’t ANYTHING to life, unfortunately, that includes living random porn scenes.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Could get a lot of bondage out of one of those very long scarfs (i.e. the “Tom Baker” Dr. -type.)

          • Adam Black

            He still has three companions tied up in back in that.

            Remember Hot Harry the Doctor? You think he left?
            Thats why he doesnt wear it anymore.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Wow – again – must be nice to actually get to have dates where things actually end up like that – with getting things on.

          • Adam Black

            No, that’s how dates are supposed to start.

            You cant just end a date on a drwho cliffhanger,

            You still have a lot of things to do, like learn their name and order food.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Damn! **SIGH!!** Just never happens for some of us.

          • Adam Black

            This is what you Do: Put up a Craigslist AD say: “Doctor looking companions, to visit planet of the SexyTimesLords: You come in, remove earth costume, me: turn on time vortex and show you my tardis, It really is bigger on the inside. ”

            IT can’t lose!!

          • Steven Klimecky

            Might just have to try that some day. Nothing else seems to be attracting the right sort for this aging professorial type.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Good point – I think there are lots of Islamic “demons” that aren’t necessarily evil – but can be called upon as servants or to do one’s bidding if one knows the proper rituals? Just trying to recall the lore on all that.

        • Does that bring us back to Kyle and Djinn?

        • Adam Black

          Daemon was taken from Greek Mythology. I think they just refer to Nature spirits, but I’ll let our resident expert in all things Grecian take that.

          • SofiaT

            *nods* Anything spiritual in form and not corporeal, with good connotations always -like guarian spirits.
            Socrates referred to a person’s concience as a Daemon.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Again, that’s assuming that the natural/scientific laws of our physical reality apply to extra-dimensional or metaphysical beings and realms. The way we perceive time and space to be operating in our plane of existence is not necessarily the same as it may be perceived or the way it may function in other planes of existence. And I vote for the elongated vowel.

  • ཟློད་

    Obviously Laampros is a mammal. He has hair (well, some of it), and nipples. The horns are puzzling, since it is hard to imagine them being useful in a fight (after all, his arms are longer), but perhaps they are merely a sexual display, like the rather phallic-looking goatee. They might even be artificial. His bat-wings are especially likely to be artificial, since they augment rather than replace his arms (batwings are basically modified forelimbs) are a different color from the rest of his body.

    • Steven Klimecky

      Mystical and metaphysical and other-dimensional beings don’t need to conform to the “laws” or processes of earth-bound evolutionary biology, and all structures don’t need to be adaptive.

  • Feverfew_M

    Looking at this fiery haired hunk, I can’t wait for the kickstarter options of vol. 2.
    Laampros/Hunter and Killer, anyone? Of course I’d be ok with Laampros/Anni as well. 😉

  • SofiaT

    The store looks great… and I’m seriously thinking about getting a print of the Artifice cover (so. perfect!) but… I got no money left!!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!

    • I bought myself the keychain. I couldn’t help myself.

      • SofiaT

        I have a set of bookcases just for my comic books. I’m thinking the Artifice cover print would look really good framed next to them. And on the other side the Something Brewing print 😀

        I also have a still from Superman 2, in black/white & signed by Margot Kidder.
        I can maybe dedicate a wall for my geek-prints… *makes cunning decorating plans*

      • SofiaT

        …and now I see that the Princess Bride store has a 20% discount on everything till tomorrow. o.0

        *sigh*
        Where have I put my credit card?

      • Denise Cruz

        I was looking at some internet pages and just found out some pillow cases and sleeping pads with some characters I really love.
        Do you think Alex would make something like that with these characters of his or maybe, even with some of the best panels from these pages, to put on his store, if I ask him to?! (I really want a pillow or a sleeping pad with ‘DAT CHEST’ on it… *.*)
        What do you think, guys?! SofiaT? Sapfo? Chris Dangerfield? And about you, AJ?!

        • Is the “Dat Chest” pillow made from dat fur fabric? Or is it just a print?

          • Denise Cruz

            Well.. I was thinking about a print. But, the first option isn’t bad, if it’s available… XDD Not bad at all! XDD

          • And thus Alex’s online store just got bigger!

            Can you say “back-orders?

        • SofiaT

          I want a Duncan body pillow please!

          • Full size too!

          • I hear those are good for your back! Yeah… your back.

          • LOL! Especially when you… *blink* I don’t think I should say that.

          • Erm… that’s what I said! Right?

          • “Honey, why is there a full size pillow of a naked man on the bed?”
            “It’s for my back.”
            “But it has a…”
            “It’s for my back.”

          • Damn straight…

            “Do you need to go to the guest room tonight? Then fine. GOOD NIGHT!”

          • “But I never…”
            “I said good night, mister!”

          • SofiaT

            😀

          • Denise Cruz

            lol Oh,boy! None of us worth anything! lol
            (Is it weird that I love it so much?! XDD)

          • Denise Cruz

            Those are good… for sure!! XDDD

          • Join the club… but is that with the picture imprint or the deluxe one made of chest fur…. ummmm… chest fur pillow… Sorry? What?

          • SofiaT

            Is there a “real full-body feel and texture” option?

          • Discuss this respectfully with Alex and appeal to his greed to be the next Stan Lee (okay without the crazy or the losing control of his own company), but, handled correctly and you know what I mean, THESE PILLOWS COULD BE OURS!!!!

          • Adam Black

            LAAMPROS lamp?

          • And his consumer product kingdom grow larger…. Nice.

          • Adam Black

            vibrate?

          • Yessss… but costs extra. Humph.

          • Adam Black

            Vibrate is an option—-But it only works on Wednesdays.

          • SofiaT

            Nope, I just want to cuddle.

            “Dat chest” was made for cuddling. 😀

          • Adam Black

            i dont think duncan is a cuddler.
            he got out of bed

          • SofiaT

            The body pillow will be a cuddler though. I’ll make it so.

          • That’s why she and millions of others will buy the Dunc-pillow at the online store. Sure kids every will go hungry (SHUTUP AND HAVE ANOTHER SPANAKOPITA!)… but ladies will have a ‘controllable’ Duncan. Financial fantasy kingdoms were built on much less.

          • Adam Black

            Program them with Duncan-personality A.I.s and we have a meta-sequel

          • Steven Klimecky

            !!!!!!!!!!

          • I awake to TRUTH.

          • Yes, please!

          • Adam Black

            chest fur pillows shed,
            Im sure I can save some for you

        • Well, if he has a cafepress store…they sell pillowcases. I suppose you could ask.

          • Denise Cruz

            Why did I feel some criticism at this?!
            Really, is it a bad idea?!
            OH, BTW: I did love the store, too!! ^v^ Specially the bottons!!

          • No criticism at all! (Eek, never meant to sound like that, I’m running on a deficit of sleep today.)

            A Duncan pillow is a GREAT idea (want one). I was trying to figure out how to go about creating one. 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            Sorry! It’s just because you said something about a ‘cafepress’… It sounded weird for me… XD (I know! I’m crazy! XD

          • That’s okay. As I said, sleep deprived brain. 🙂

            Cafepress.com is a place online that allows people to make things with their art without having to warehouse the merchandise.

          • Denise Cruz

            OH! So is that?! lol I’m such a fool! XDD I’m so sorry!
            It had sounded for me, like some critical comments that some people around here use when don’t want to say exactly what they’re thinking, but still want you knowing it’s nothing good…
            Do you understand what I mean?
            Again, I really sorry!

          • It’s all good. Really. I just assumed everyone knew what Cafepress was, but that was silly on my part. 🙂 My mom has art on there so I’m a lot familiar with it.

          • Denise Cruz

            Here those are just called ‘online stores’. We don’t use any special names for them. That’s why I got a little lost about it and didn’t quite understand.. ^v^
            Thanks for explain it to me! I appreciate!

          • No problem. 🙂

          • Crit? No way. I want a dual pillow discount. One Kyle for my front side (he’s so yummy) and one Duncan pillow for my backside… erm… for obvious reasons.

            Oh never mind. Just NO criticism. I’ve got my credit card out. It’s their loss. 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            All right! Thanks!
            You’re a funny guy, Chris! So frank and spontaneous! ^v^
            Duncan, uhn?! Agreed! But I want two of him! XDD
            I’ll talk about this with Alex. Although, I think he always reads our comments. Let’s hope he likes the idea… (crossed fingers) 😉

          • Oh, I promise you that if our Alex doesn’t see the essential need the world has for Kyle and Duncan bed linens, than the rain of horror upon him shalt be heretofore unknown by mankind… (well after he finishes this book I mean…), but you understand. 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            OH! Of course I do understand!
            And thank you for your support on this delicate issue! lol
            Now, I need to get courage to talk to him about it… XD (I think he’s gonna want to kill me for putting him in such trouble!) XD

          • Adam Black

            how is Kyles ‘fire tunnell ‘ heated ?

          • Why? Is that something we can purchase in the online store?

          • Adam Black

            the store, or somewhere…

          • SofiaT

            Two Duncans?? *eyes glaze and stupid smile forms while also slightly drooling*

          • All soft and furry… one for each side…

            *smiles evilly*

            My order is already in……. ho hum

          • Have a Duncan towel to mop that up with. 😀

        • Steven Klimecky

          If I can get one with an imprint of a shirtless Kyle with his arms spread out showing his adorable sexy red tufts of armpit fur, so I can snuggle and nuzzle up to them at night (or any other time I need an axillary-fantasy fix).

          • Another lover of Kyle’s armpit fur!!!!! I’m not alone. Yes yes yes and I say YES! Me want now.

          • Denise Cruz

            You, definitely, are not alone! I’m joining the club, too! ^v^

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – most def. not alone! – I’ve commented more than a few times in the past about my lustiness for Kyles sexy red axillary tufts – and I also did notice that, a couple or a few pages back, you posted a rather sexy comment about them that made me …er…um…let’s just say rather “hot and bothered”. I had to fan myself in a swoon. (Someone from work – or one of my students! – is probably going to find these comments of mine here someday (as I’ve been silly enough to post under my real name [though part of me was just tired of worrying about such things anymore after all these years], and I’m going to be rather embarrassed by this statement, but I have a rather intense male axilla fetish – in general, but it intensifies as the hair in them gets darker and furrier.) Hence, my comments a couple times as well, I think, on your sexy avatar/thumbnail pic.

          • Denise Cruz

            I can blame for that! That red tufts are, indeed, so hot!!
            I’ll talk to Alex about the pillow cases… Maybe he likes this idea… ^v^

          • Adam Black

            That one comes with him chained so he can never get off your bed.

            You’ll hate it—and buy 12.

          • See that’s why I can’t have nice things with YOU. All my ethics, which seemed so reasonable just moment ago, just flee out the window… oh dear.

          • Adam Black

            sadly Ive heard that before too.

          • Fine…. I’d like twelve please.

          • Adam Black

            Alex will sign you up.
            best i can do is put up a craigslist ad for you

          • Oh the damn calls wanting to bargain everything down!

            Oh well, sold!

    • Sapfo

      Thing that I need, verses thing that I want. It is a hard question. Well I need to eat and pay rent….AND I NEED A KEYCHAIN RIGHT NOW!!!!
      Okay, I dont need to eat or pay rent….

      • So so true… feed wee starving children? … contribute to extra page? … feed wee starving children (with big needy tear-filled eyes)? … contribute to extra page …

        Ah hell… who am I kidding. I can alway borrow more children.

        EXTRA PAGE!!!!!!!

  • Mosqitoe

    OMFG THE KID JUST WANTED TO DIDDLE W HAT THE HECK ANNIHILATOR???

  • Mosqitoe

    INSTEAD YOU SUMMONED SATAN FIRE CROTCH HERE YOU ARE SO BAD AT DATING NEVER DATE AGAIN

    • SpookyDomme

      I may or may not have made an incoherent wailing sound while trying not to laugh really, really hard.
      Also, I laughed really, really hard.

    • Jamie Dutton

      THIS x 10!

  • FaolanSwift

    Bugger. He really was summoning demons.

  • well…munches popcorn…sorry…am i that loud?

    so sorry…

  • SpookyDomme

    DUNDUNDUNNN.
    I get so irrationally excited about new characters.

  • Kit the Coyote

    “You should have been told to expect me”??

    Arch-demons have a scheduling receptionist?
    Master Laampros, you have a three o’clock with a Mister Annihilator. He will be arriving by a virginal tantric generated fire tunnel. I’ll have the eyeball watching for them.

    • “…virginal tantric generated fire tunnel” (All flights operated by Virginal America)

      If I’d know that’s all it was, I never would have let my knickers get in such a knot! Golly, little Kyle was just providing a public service!

      • Adam Black

        He’s like the electric company, only greener

        • I used to watch that show when I was a little kid… liked the puppets… for LOTS of reasons.

          • Adam Black

            dont remember the puppets.
            There is a remake— or is that Zoom?

            The old ones had a creepy spiderman that never talked.
            puppets?

          • Maybe I’m misremembering. I thought The Electric Company was an off-shoot of Sesame Street. But I wouldn’t put a creepy spiderman across any of those pervs. Yah!

          • Adam Black
          • Yep, I forgot. EVERYONE is creepy.

          • Adam Black

            on the ecompany?
            Thats facebooks motto

    • Saccharissa

      I may have laughed hysterically at this, while at work…

    • Cman65

      Always act like they know your comming, when they are bigger than you and like you don’t know them at all when your bigger

    • Adam Black

      All the Demons want to get in kyle’s fire tunnel

      • Amanda

        His fire tunnel brings all the boys to the yard………
        I cant paraphrase anymore, that’s really as much of the milkshake song I know.

        • Adam Black

          gotta put in “cruising” and “park” and we can make it a new disco hit

          • Damn… let me help Alex fully expand his online store.

            Just add this to the Kyle and Duncan’s bed sheet line and Alex, you now have a music outlet. Dudes you’re gonna be mega rich. And it’s all because of us. You’ll be on CRIBS OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS…

            KYLES MILKSHAKE SONG:

            My fire tunnel brings all the boys to the bed,
            And they’re like
            It’s hotter than yours,
            Damn right it’s hotter than yours,

            I can teach you to flame it
            But I have to charge it
            I know you want it,
            The thing that makes me,
            What the Laampros go crazy for.

            Demon’s lose their minds,
            The way I wind,
            I think its time

            [Chorus x2]

            La la-la la la,
            Hot it up.
            Lala-lalala,
            The demons are waiting

            My fire tunnel brings all the boys to the bed,
            the indestructable bed
            And they’re like
            It’s hotter than yours,
            Damn right it’s hotter than yours,

            I can teach you,
            But I have to charge you up
            I can see you’re on it,
            You want me to teach thee
            Techniques that freaks these… demons,

            It can’t be bought,
            Just how super villains’s get caught,
            Watch if your smart,
            Duncan gets burnt

            [Chorus x2]

            La la-la la la,
            Warm it up,
            La la-la la la,
            The demons are waiting,

            My fire tunnel brings all the boys to the bed,
            the indestructable bed
            And they’re like
            It’s hotter than yours,
            Damn right it’s hotter than yours,

            … continue ad naseum…

          • Adam Black

            You had me at bold formatting.

          • *bows*

          • Adam Black

            Alex,

            That ought to make an honorable mention

          • Or ‘DISHONORABLE’ depending on the day, the mood and his taste in music. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            If you get complaints, rewrite it as “Milk”
            I’m sure that will remove all controversies

    • Steven Klimecky

      I think that’s just about what happened!

  • bronakopdin

    just thought…
    why is he burning but still has chest/pubic hair but ONLY those ^^
    (well and the ponytail-like beard xD)
    demonic “I’m fabulous” powers I guess :p

    • ཟློད་

      Chest toupee!

  • Saccharissa

    My birthday was three days ago. I was feeling sad that I didn’t have anyone special to spend it with, and then I thought, “At least no-one used me to summon a demon.” I should count my blessings, I suppose.

    • SofiaT

      Happy belated birthday!! 🙂

    • Adam Black

      You should have told us: Lots of us would have summoned demons for you.

      • That’s ’cause you’re a GIVER!

        • Adam Black

          said no one else, ever

          • Dark arcane arts? Undead minions? Eldritch non-euclidian fun? Come on… you know you give. Just because they don’t known how to appreciate, is NOT your problem.

            Okay, I don’t want to belittle anything… maybe… get the blowjob first… and then go for the dark arts and shambling zombies.

            Maybe?

          • Adam Black

            So you are saying lure guy over with huge endowments, and *THEN* make him face the horrors of my laundry?

          • Dude… you are talking to ME. If you lured him in with huge endowments, then he CAN’T see the laundry. It’s the X chromo… it’s just built that way.

            Not to belittle your point, just make sure ‘date’ sees huge endowments before he catches site of dirty laundry. It’s a LOT more work to wipe his mind clean after the fact… just sayin’

            It can be done… X-chromo is single minded (myyy precccious) but still a modicum of effort is required.

          • Adam Black

            you got the right chromosomes here?
            I’m not really into Klinefelters* or anything.
            ( * no offense to any extra-chromatically gifted people. Its More of a guess really )

          • Well heck… if you’re wandering around the Kinsey scale like a lost soul, afraid to commit to heaven (gay) or hell (not sayin’) then you deserve what you get.

            Wow… sorry that was just a whole lot of judgmental from someone who burnt his closet to the ground and then threw the ashes in the ocean because salt water is good for evil things.

            Sorry……….. (epic retraction). Let’s pretend I just said something really supportive… ‘kay?

          • Adam Black

            I’m not the one who doesnt know the difference between X and Y chromosomes.

          • OMG so true. I think your Klinefelters remark just threw me off. I shall be silent forever more… or until the next ditzy thing comes up for remark upon.

            *bows out humbly*

          • Adam Black

            If you like them with extra Ys , supposedly they show up often in prison.
            ( Although there are a few normal XX males )

          • Steven Klimecky

            Gosh – Oh to even remember what one of those feels like.

    • ཟློད་

      May you live a hundred years! (Unless you are already 100, in which case–belay that!)
      And may your next birthday be as exciting as Kyle’s!

  • Klaus

    Is Laampros a personal name? Or a title? Or a type of being? “Great laampros” might be like “great lord” or “great demon”.

    • SofiaT

      I’m thinking it’s a name, since the meaning relation with the name Lucifer is too strong.

      • Amanda

        Im thinking it just sounded more dignified than Bubba.

        • SofiaT

          Haha! Point! *bows*

          • Adam Black

            But all the neighbors were like General Hospital: the crack years …. Even gay people couldnt create that much drama without a script and a stage, and costumes.

            I was only there 2 days and I couldnt keep up.

        • Adam Black

          Bubba, Demon Lord of the Outer Atrocities, is offended

          • Amanda

            Do trailer parks count as outer atrocities?

          • Adam Black

            all the ones Ive seen!

          • So you’ve been to the nicer ones. Sweeet.

          • Adam Black

            had a pool

          • Posh city boy…

          • Adam Black

            ( bows head ) It was a vacation.
            ( I was all ‘what relatives withon 100 miles can I impose on ? )

          • Ummm… what is this… va-cat-ion… you speak of? It must be a wondrous thing… with trailer parks and pools without killer fish… all for swimming. I will dream of it tonight… and someday … maybe…

            *a tear of hope trails down his cheek*

          • Adam Black

            I’ll ask my aunt in ft launderdale to check the trailer park pool for gators

          • Guest

            I’ll ask my aunt in fnt launderdale to check the trailer park pool for gators

          • Stubbylegs

            I don’t think so, but I’ve never had a problem with them.

          • Even his brain spiders may be offended!

          • Adam Black

            I heard Bubba, pickles his own brain spiders

          • Ooooooh, now I’m getting the munchies!

          • Could I sell him some of mine? I’m running out of space.

          • Adam Black

            go for it.

          • Oh goodie. They breed like bunnies.

        • ཟློད་

          Or “Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light” (from Dilbert)

      • Nasro Subari

        Heh, given that “Lucifer” means “Bearer of Light”, that’s fitting!

      • Steven Klimecky

        I think it may be an appellation, such as “Oh great Brilliant One” , or “great Shining One”, or “great Splendid One”. Along the lines of “Lord of the Flies” or “Lord of Chaos” or “Devourer of Souls”, etc.

        • Well he’s NOT ‘Devourer of Souls’ with that waist line. Come on Bro… WE know how hard it is to keep the waistline under control and those souls are fattening. So I think we can rule that name out. Right? 🙂

          • Adam Black

            Souls are like the peanutbutter cheesecake brownies of hell

          • Damn right… my total downfall… damn…

          • Adam Black

            << Has a pound of fresh ground honeyroasted peanutbutter next to him.

          • souls mixed in….? or on the side?

          • Adam Black

            on the side… fuckin ghosts.

            I was next to my cat, and the shade nearby just rolled up by itself.

            Scared the shit of me. the cat didnt even jump.

            Get your own peanutbutter I say. I had to walk to wholefoods.

          • CATS! Feh… at least my dog pretends to grovel.

          • Adam Black

            I meant the ghost.

            The Cat begs for everything. even for water if I pick it up. or for food that in its bowl. If its in my hand, he wants it!

          • See… now i could see that there might times when with ‘certain things in your hand’ that might be uncomfortable…

            But hey, you know what you like best. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            No, *thats* a dog thing. cats dont molest you when you are nude … ( and dogs willl and and do )

          • I must’ve had a defective cat.

          • Adam Black

            um… maybe

          • Then again, she liked to steal pasta off my plate.

          • Adam Black

            im tryng to remember the episode. Is that the one where Cartmans mother ( redacted ) the whole ( redacted ) in her ( edited for common decency ) or the one Cartman got everyone to ( redacted )

          • Now that’s just mean! 😛 Although I recall part of that episode where he’s searching for his father.

            I haven’t seen a lot of episodes. But apparently there is a wiki for that.
            http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Cartman_Gets_an_Anal_Probe
            http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Kitty

          • Adam Black

            you can watch them all for free on south park studios.com

            go watch the Butters show. Youll thank me.

          • Pre-watching opinion: I doubt that very much.

          • Adam Black

            Butters follows his dad to a movie showing “fisting Fireman 9” .
            tells his mom, “Gee, I havent even seen Fisting Fireman 1-8”

          • Poor Butters.

            Of course, now I have to watch it.

          • Adam Black

            “It was a real sad movie, too. Dad had kleenex…”
            it pushes boundaries—even for South Park

          • I have a strange relationship with South Park. More often than not it crosses my comfort zone, but there is some funny shit they pull.

          • Adam Black

            OK so thats someone.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Can I lick it off your ….? (Armpits maybe.)

          • Adam Black

            I was raised to use spoons.

            That may have been something that sounded better if you didn’t think it properly through. The only reason I can imagine doing that is if I got gum stuck in my armpit hair.

            and why would I have gum in my armpit hair?
            even stranger, why am I trying to figure out how that could happen?

            OK, now I am going to take a shower, and doulble-check I dont have reasons to have my hairy crevices cleaned with peanutbutter

            ( In all fairness, organic freshground peanutbutter is really awesome )

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – I was just giving other examples of such types of appellations – not intending that the others were to be applied to Laampros.

    • KiannaLeigh

      According to Biblestudytools.com, “Lampros” is an adjective meaning shining, brilliant, clear, transparent, splendid or magnificent. So it may be a title or a name.

      • Should I be worried that I just clicked a link for “biblestudytools.com” to look up the name of a demon who may wreak sexual mayhem on characters I’ve come to love?

        (long uncomfortable pause ensues)

        Yeah, I should, shouldn’t I? Thank god Adam’s brain spiders made me do it… or I’d really worry. 😀

        • Adam Black

          I’m telling you get jars.
          and it turns out my dad was right. You do really have to catch bugs for them. He lied a lot, so I had to put it to the test..

          • DAMN.

            Dads are so like that. You just do what they suggest, and suddenly your little brother is bleeding like a stuck pig and crying like an air raid siren and YOU’RE the one in trouble and can’t sit for a week. No one blames Dad.

            It totally sux. Life is so unfair.

            Oh……. was that TMI? Sorry.

          • Adam Black

            When they say “don’t bother me unless you are bleeding” they don’t usually mean it as a password

          • Hell… true that!

          • Adam Black

            this little brother still in therapy?

          • See how predictable… the little actor. When I clearly deserve the sympathy for my unfair sufferings.

            Well, come up to my apartment and I’ll show you my etchings… and then we can look at my scars. Ahh little bro… memories!

          • Adam Black

            he gave you scars?

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hmmm – I wouldn’t mind looking at your scars.

    • ཟློད་

      According to Wikipedia, it’s the real surname of the artist known as “Tom of Finland.” (!gniddik tsuJ)

      • If that were indeed true, we’d be seeing a LOT more of Lampy… you know? Wink wink nod nod. Tom was not about obscuring his Scandinavian demons… wait??? Is Laampros a Scandinavian name?

        Naaaaaa. There’d be some weird umlaut over a vowel or something. Humph.

    • Adam Black

      This is why he is called Laampros

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07-yKnKRMQ

      ( Seriously, that will ruin the story. Once youve seen, you can’t unsee )

      • Evil……. pure evil…….

      • vessto

        I thought it will be some scary metal song. But a tender ballad…..

        • Adam Black

          Hows Debbie Boon still singing in your head?
          not scary yet? give it a week

          • vessto

            I didn’t listened the whole song, just seconds. *goes to hear the whole song*

          • Adam Black

            I have a contact earworm infection now, just from its memory, 30 years ago…

            I really hope you like the song, because its literally unforgetable

          • vessto

            I’m not into slow music but definitely this is a good song and very powerful voice.

          • Adam Black

            perhaps you can give it guitars and drums and breathe new life into it

          • vessto

            Synthesizers. I’m into Electronic music.

          • He’s not kidding. I just woke up and it’s still there in m my HEAD. GET IT OUT!

            Adam can be evil kids… just sayin’ EEEEEEVIL.

            cue: Theremin

          • Adam Black

            ah, so it “Lit up your nights with song” ?

            I hear your complaints, but “It can’t be wrong,
            When it feels so right.”

            Thats why hes called Laampros

          • vessto

            You were right… This morning when I was on my way to work the chorus sprong in my head.

  • SofiaT

    I just discovered that one of my favourite poems, “Ithaca” by the excellent C.P. Cavafis (a homosexual man who lived in Alexandria of Egypt about 100 years ago but who was well ahead of his time), has been turned into a short comic. If you’re interested, you can check it out here: http://zenpencils.com/comic/131-c-p-cavafy-ithaka/

    • That is absolutely fantastic and I am now forwarding it to about 100 people… Thank you.

    • ཟློད་

      And the barbarians have arrived…!
      The way the poem is parsed, it reads like Max Ehrman’s “Desiderata.”

      • SofiaT

        Not heard of it but I’ll check it out, thanks!
        In the meantime, your comment reminded me of this: https://www.kenyonreview.org/programs/resources-for-teachers/konstantinos-kavaphes/

        • Now, I just stuff these links in my reading file. Thx. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Here is one of his sensual poems for you:

            “When I went to that house of pleasure,
            I didn’t stay in the front rooms where they celebrate,
            with some decorum, the accepted modes of love.
            I went into the secret rooms
            and lounged and lay on their beds.
            I went into the secret rooms
            considered shameful even to name.
            But not shameful to me -because if they were,
            what kind of poet, what kind of artist would I be?
            I’d rather be an ascetic. That would be more in keeping,
            much more in keeping with my poetry,
            than for me to find pleasure in the commonplace rooms.”

            …Being a gay man in the 1800s/early 1900s must have been so tough.

          • Stunning. Thank you. (and saved)

            And yes you are so right for me also. I was alive when the American Psychiatric Association took “Gay” off their list of mental disabilities… over great pressure from the conservative and religious portions of the American government… and that was the 1970’s … to go back further just boggles the mind.

          • SofiaT

            I’m left-handed and up until 20-30 years ago, people thought that was “the sign of the devil” or some crap like that.

            I remember when I was colouring, my mom used to slap me on the back of the head when she saw me using my left hand, so I’d hold the pencil with the other one, wait till she left the room and then change back and keep on colouring with the left. Thankfully, when I started school the teacher said it was ok, so I was left to do it my way.

            I know it’s not the same, not by a longshot, but it just goes to show the stupid ideas that existed in society up until very, very recently.

          • Aw sorry. Actually it is exactly the same. Stupidity is as stupidity does.

            I just take a small pleasure in after all these year of being oh so married… finally my government is being forced to address it.

            F*ck YEAH!

          • vessto

            It is not just stupidity. For me the religion serves exactly the thing it pretend to denounce the most – the evil. Nothing based on an impostor can be the truth.

          • SofiaT

            The “walls” are finally being demolished, slowly but steadily 😀
            …Which brings us to another one of my faves (I promise it’s the last one!)

            WALLS
            Without consideration, without pity, without shame
            they have built great and high walls around me.

            And now I sit here and despair.
            I think of nothing else: this fate gnaws at my mind;

            for I had many things to do outside.
            Ah why did I not pay attention when they were building the walls.

            But I never heard any noise or sound of builders.
            Imperceptibly they shut me from the outside world.

            (1896)

          • vessto

            Its root is the same – the “holy” book and its idea about morals, love, good, evil and (self-knowledge). And mysoginy is also a part of it – even in the idea about homosexuality (called left people too) and left-handed people. Left is the woman and everything womanish is devilish. They were afraid of women. If you examine their ideas why homosexual men and left-handed people are “servants of devil” you’ll find a deep connection with mysoginy. Also I think lines in OT are against homosexual men, not against all homosexual people. The ancient haters connected a love to a male with being woman so along with the humble devil servant, the women, they listed here gay men and left-handed people.

            And pagans were all for love as it must be and homo/bisexuality was a normal part of pagans’ life. So the dark age founders were pissed of, they needed people to be mindless animals, not free thinkers and free lovers.

          • vessto

            Evil never sleeps and happiness of the “different” ones is its biggest pain in the ass.

        • vessto

          “but for the next two decades Kavaphes’ poetry was widely ignored or
          ridiculed by critics and readers unaccustomed to his deliberately
          prosaic style, his rejection of idealism, and his bold evocation of
          homosexual desire.”

          Yeah, zealots never stop. As passive they are when to accept and support as active they are when to reject and ostracize.

          • SofiaT

            Kavafis was pretty unhappy with himself. There are poems of him that describe his battle with this “vice” and how it always wins… he became an alcoholic because he couldn’t reconcile what he was (a genius!) and what society told him he was (a pervert).

            A man like him should have been celebrated, not treated like a pariah and recognised only after death >:(

          • vessto

            Not the sex creates perverts but the lack of sex. Proved.:)

            I always feel sad and bitter when reading stories like that. And there are persons which even after death are not recognized because they were “different” (which mean unique in fact). Hard Polish conservatives wanted to forbid local and global GLBT classic authors to be taught in schools. Still no open recognition about Chaykovsky as a bisexual man (and admitting that masons made him to kill himself because of this). Same with the alive persons too, Samuel Delaney would be much more admitted for a great sci-fi writer if he was het (and white).

    • Steven Klimecky

      OMG – Kudos for referencing Constantine Cavafy (Konstantinos Kavafis) – I’m totally impressed. He is a favorite poet of mine and I rarely hear him mentioned or referenced by anyone, esp. anyone in one of the “younger generations”. Thanks for the heads up about the comic based on his work!

      • SofiaT

        Thanks but no reason to be impressed. I was first introduced to Cavafy in elementary school. He was part of the curriculum. 🙂

        He is my favourite poet though. I love the subtle use of irony in his poems and the combination of melancholy and hedonism.

        God Abandons Anthony is one of my faves. Leonard Cohen adapted it to a haunting love song.

        • Damn, your elementary school was so much better than mine. But we did do construction paper and macaroni art projects – with glitter – and Elmer’s glue. Glitter… erm… maybe why I’m gay today?

          *wanders off to consider*

          • Better than mine too. I just remember making St Patrick day leprechauns and thanksgiving turkeys from construction paper and cotton. I don’t think they gave us macaroni.

          • SofiaT

            Your schools sound more fun. 🙁

            Elementary and secondary school are pretty full-on back home. No time for a child to play or be creative.
            Universities on the other hand are pretty laid back… My people like to do everything backwards.

            On 7th grade I had to jungle 2 hours of ancient greek a day (grammar/literature), plus modern greek literature, history, math, physics, biology blah blah blah… and after I finished regular school at 2pm, I had to rush home for lunch and then leave for another 3 hours at the english school. And then come home at 7pm and do a couple of hours of homework on top of everything else. *headdesk*.

            I’m getting stressed just remembering it all.

          • You got to go home for lunch? That is so not fair.

            The arts and crafts were between kindergarten and 1st grade. Third grade they teach you cursive and you learn to spell Saturn. Sixth grade we had to plan a trip to Europe for some reason. 7th grade they made us move from class to class and we got to take spanish for the first time. One we reached high school, we could take spanish, german or french, but we needed only one year of it to graduate. I think we only needed one year of math too. And we still didn’t get to go home for lunch.

            I’m sure there was more to it, but I’ve done my best to block it all out.

            And we wonder why our schooling is behind the rest of the world.

            Edit: Sorry. Did that sound bitter?

          • SofiaT

            You only did one year of math?? That’s it, I’m moving there! We did math from year 2, starting with simple arithmetics, and getting progressively more complicated every year, up till we finished high school -in which point the algebra and geometry was pretty tough (at least for me, I got no math brains).

            And even if you chose the Classical Direction for your studies in the last 2 years of high school like I did (which meant Latin, Philosophy, and more Ancient Greek, History and Literature) you still had to take obligatory, “core” algebra, physics and geometry, even though you’d never use it again in your life. Those who chose the Thetical Direction had to do even more advanced algebra and advanced physics and chemistry but they didn’t have to do Latin or Philosophy.

            We also did French at school but that was our “play time” -nobody actually paid any attention. Four years of French and all I can remember is “d’accord” and “comment tu t’appelle?”.

            As for having lunch at home, it’s not as fun as it sounds -I always envied the kids I saw in American movies having lunch at the school cafeteria. Not to mention you have to wait till 2.30pm to get home and eat, since school finished at 2pm. You went home starved! >:(

          • Well, that was just to graduate HS. It’s possible I’m mis-remembering how many years of math, like I said I’ve worked hard to put it from my mind. As it was, I was at that time thinking of becoming a veterinarian and so was going all four years. I barely passed geometry, started failing algebra 2 when it started to resemble geometry, which really is ridiculous because I don’t know what geometry has to do with medicine — of which I never handled the failure well. 4 years of “English” though. Definitely only one year of a language, plus history (I liked history), and some other electives like sociology which wasn’t as cool as I thought it would be. Then homework from each teacher all seven of them and they were allowed to give up to an hour each.

            And this is why I do my best to forget. 🙂 Of course had I gone to yours, I’ll try not to think about that. 😐

            Okay, I will give you that regarding lunch. I never would have made it out of there alive.

          • SofiaT

            *throws tantrum* I WANT MY CHILDHOOD BACK!

            …As you can see, I’m the bitter one here 😛

          • Well, when compared to your school schedule, yes, I can see why. 🙂

            The best part of high school was at lunch buying nachos and a mountain dew (before I knew about corn syrup and all the other lovely chemicals in that drink). I sat with my younger brother and his friends once he started High school because the girls I would have sat with only seemed to talk about french kissing their boyfriends. I did not have a boyfriend, I had horses and touch of social anxiety before it was known as social anxiety.

            Okay, yeah, now I’m getting stressed remembering. o_o

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yeah – I didn’t have a bf either 🙁 – and in those days it was not cool to be gay in HS, let alone be “out”, though, by rather late in my senior year, I did manage to tell a handful of classmates.

          • I was awkward around people, but still am awkward.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Grass is always greener – I would have loved to be learning all of that in school – I didn’t have much of a childhood anyway – not many friends in school, no one to play with, no one who understood me, no-one to date or get intimate with, etc., etc. Hun, never claim to be the bitter one when I’m lurking about 😉 Frustration and bitterness, two of the main ingredients in the soup of my life.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Wow, as an intellectual and academic type, it actually makes me really wish I had gone to your school. Seventh grade sounds amazing – I would have loved to be learning ancient Greek – instead of having to go swimming in the nude. A painfully shy gay boy with a host of his own body hang-ups found that very difficult, and erotically frustrating as all hell in addition. It would have been so much easier on me if I hadn’t had to deal with that and could have just taken a class reading some ancient literature instead – Sanskrit would have been nice to learn too – maybe the Mahabharata, or the Vedas and Upanishads.

          • SofiaT

            You did Shakespeare in school though, didn’t you? Because we didn’t -we didn’t do much of european literature or history in general, our classes were always ethnic-centric. As for ancient Greek, it may seem exotic to you, but it’s still my native language, with just a weird syntax and slightly more complicated grammar than the modern dialect. Again, not unlike what Shakespeare is like for you. Not very exotic really.

            I must say I’m happy we didn’t have a pool at my school though. As a teenager I was sticky thin and painfully awkward. I would have hated to show up in a bikini in front of my classmates. o.O

          • Steven Klimecky

            Oh – OK – I understand now – that makes a lot more sense then! But I still say that, in Europe in general, early academic study is more in tense and more sophisticated than in U.S. And yeah – had to do some Shakespeare, etc. – though from what I hear from the kids these days (I teach at a local junior college), that no longer seems to be as much a requirement in a lot of cases. And as for swimming in 7th grade, we didn’t even get a Speedo to wear.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Regarding your fist sentence – education in any part of the UK or any of it’s former holdings seems to be SO much better and more sophisticated than here in the U.S.!!!!! (Probably the same for most of Europe and significant parts of Asia as well.)

          • SofiaT

            That could be true -I have no way of knowing- but it wouldn’t apply on me anyway. I may be living in a Commonwealth country now but I wasn’t born and raised in one.

          • Steven Klimecky

            OH? Very curious, then, where did you go that you were learning that intense curriculum?

          • SofiaT

            Greece of course! Where else would a Greek poet be a “must have” in the curriculum? 🙂

            As I said before, there’s really no reason for you to be impressed.

  • Ellen Harman

    Wouldn’t just kill the mood if the Great Laampros and a high whinny voice?

    • Adam Black

      That happens to me do much

      • I really think you need to find a better class of dates. 😐

        • Or, just hand them a glass of decent wine, place two fingers gently across their lips and say…

          “No, no, no, don’t talk my sweet… our love is not one meant for mortal words. Let our hearts do all the talking… Now, just get on your knees and…”

          WHAT? Well it’s worked for me. Ho-hum…

        • Adam Black

          Im a big believer in gags.

          • And a lovely collection it is too.

          • Adam Black

            still , duct tape has its rough charms

          • Great for tying someone quickly too and then after repairing a few items around the house.

          • Admiral, you show completely suspected depths… Sweet!

          • *bows* It’s that practical streak in me.

          • Adam Black

            “depths” is also a polymeme
            HA! works equally as praise or an insult

          • And in this case?

          • Adam Black

            You let us know

          • I think I’ll just be over there, you know, playing with the duct tape.

          • Adam Black

            sounds like a plan

          • Jus’ jealous of the superhero duct tape

          • Adam Black

            of course

          • Just take the wind out of my sails why don’t you.

          • Adam Black

            the update ought to fix that

          • Yay for a new page soon! And getting to bed earlier would help too.

          • Adam Black

            men with duct tape tumblr.com

          • Wow. That’s… wow. I can’t unsee some of that. I really wish I could unsee some of that.

            Though this does not need to be unseen. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/hideo-muraoka

          • Adam Black

            You should start a service.

            If you do laundry ill let you watch

          • What sort of service am I offering? And what do I get if I promise to fold the laundry?

          • Adam Black

            tying/Taping up loose guests… household repairs…
            Your power can be Duct Tape

            just folding ? ha!

            im on the 3rd floor. that means doing a few loads of laundry means walking 24 flights of stairs. with nerve damage that explains why I have ….7 +

            I only promise interesting.

          • Oh I’m willing to do the laundry, it’s the folding I’m not known for. But three flights of stairs and I only get to watch? Seems a little lopsided.

            (Do I dare ask how interesting?)

          • Adam Black

            We’ll throw duct tape parties, where thats the only attire, and let you use use your duct taping powers accordingly

          • Looks like I need to go shopping for duct tape with lip prints on it.

          • Adam Black

            you van draw them on

          • True, but I was thinking theme nights.

          • Adam Black

            Steve has some interesting ideas with Peanut butter.
            Maybe Ducttaping is the teflon of PButter.

          • Probably need the peanut butter to remove the duct tape. Which would be high fun. (or is that what you were saying?)

          • Adam Black

            i meant the inverse.
            its easier to clean off the peanutbutter party if the participants are covered in duct tape.

            But if you clean up with peanutbutter that might create an infintite loop of ducttape and peanutbutter,
            better use peanut oil instead

          • Yeah, I could see the dilemma there. The neither party would ever end and then some sort of rift would form and… Adding oil to shopping list.

          • Adam Black

            maybe thats how thae singularity starts

          • Or demons get summoned. And demons never know when to go home.

          • Adam Black

            not just demons

          • That’s because a nexus has formed from the peanut butter and duct tape. Time changes some how. 😐

          • Adam Black

            gets my tub of organic fresh ground peanutbutter…

            Best thing in whole foods is that peanut grinder. maybe i should get some icecream…

          • Now you’re just tempting fate.

          • Adam Black

            im not allergic. I’ll risk it.

          • It’s not organic fresh ground but the Peanut Butter & Co. makes some awesome dark chocolate peanut butter. You know, just to mix things up. gmo free.

            http://ilovepeanutbutter.com/darkchocolatedreams.html

          • But I can go shopping for sharpies then

          • Adam Black

            what, you arent using lipstick?

          • I will now. Going to shop for lipstick.

          • Adam Black

            find a manly shade for me.

          • Manly shade, manly shade. Hmm, no glitter then.

          • Adam Black

            yes, save the glitter for the glitterati

          • Glitter is hard to get rid of once unleashed.

          • Adam Black

            i know

          • Did you have a glitter phase, sir?

          • Adam Black

            only in that, I discovered glitter is hard to remove from ones scalp. I was shaking out glitter for weeks.

          • Lucky it was only on your scalp.

          • Adam Black

            didnt seem lucky

          • I will refrain from looking on the bright side from here on out.

          • Adam Black

            Nah, those hotlips are all natural

            ( and if you cant “hot lips” or “all natural” get me “workout flush” )

          • With your complexion?

          • SofiaT
          • Yay!

          • Adam Black

            anything resembling flush goes nicely.

          • Right, okay then. Flush it is. Or blood red, which ever is on sale.

          • Adam Black

            blood red never goes out of style

          • True dat (Just as Elvira) and it goes with just about any outfit.

          • Adam Black

            im on the 3rd floor ( to basememnt ) but that means if doing 3 or loads, 24 flights of stairs!

            But youve got tape powersz, that has to count for something. You can be like WonderSticky woman.

          • That’s a lot of stairs. And I still call lopsided that I only get to watch. Especially considering at this moment it’s 7 loads and I have to fold it too.

            Just don’t be surprised if you find me in a duct tap version of her outfit. Okay, never mind. I wouldn’t ever be able to get all that tape off.

          • Adam Black

            i can fold.

          • Heh. Then I think we have an accord, Mister Black.

          • Adam Black

            IF Only…

          • Well, there is the little problem of reality intruding upon this deal.

          • Adam Black

            Go find Dr Reality and use your Duct tape powerz on him

          • Taking off in my invisible duct tape jet this very moment.

          • I was sleeping. What does doing laundry, stairs and duct tape have to do with penis size?

          • Adam Black

            I thought that was a weird riddle.

            What does penis size have to do with laundry, stairs and duct tape, Chris?

            Thats just a coincidence. I was talking about how much laundry I have to do . ( Over 7 loads ) . You just have a filthy mind. I can admire that.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Maybe my mind isn’t QUITE as filthy, but when you mentioned doing “over 7 loads”, it made me not think of laundry.

          • Adam Black

            Im sure I can beg for help doing dirty laundry all Night long, and all you guys lll hear is “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0xr31XbSOU”

          • Adam Black

            If that was a Jeopardy question, it could be under “Things found in a Craigslist ad for a houseboy” for 800″

          • Well they say that duct tape can turn “No no no!” into “Mmm mmm mmm”.

            (that was insensitive wasn’t it?)

            But still true… in an evil, irredeemable way!

            See, there are things I find funny… and things that are evil… and the intersect point is why I’m going to hell.

            🙁

          • Sapfo

            I think I should be very happy that you are gay Mr Dangerfield. Very happy indeed 😉

          • True that. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            Yes, it was insensitive.

            I am out of duct tape

          • Well grasshopper let this be a lesson to you! Emergency kit — clean water, canned goods and duct tape… and a nice reasonably sized dildo and some lube… NEVER run out of the essentials in case of emergency. NEVER!

          • Adam Black

            I am out of a few things then.

            You must have fun hurricane parties

          • Well what do you do locked in an underground bunker?

            Wait. Best not answer that. *snort*

          • Adam Black

            plausible deniability is a thing

          • YEP…. always.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hmmm…I’ll still take my electrosex bands and my Erostek over a dildo. But maybe that’s partially because I’m def. more of a “top” than “bottom” – more into phallic than anal stimulation. BTW, Is there any way I can change the “signature” of my posts – so if anyone does a web-search with my name, they don’t get to (because I’m posting under my real name) find out all this stuff about me on here that I’m only comfortable revealing to y’all ? I don’t recall it gave me options when I signed on.

          • SofiaT

            Just go into your Disqus account and change the setting to “private”.

          • Adam Black

            I am Discus illiterate .
            I think sofia knows these things

            I caught steve using Bold formatting too.

            I dont know what an erostek is?
            Im defnot not into electroshocking my genitals.

            My advice is get yourself to a hottub and have s guy find your prostrate. its never too late

          • Steven Klimecky

            No electrostimulation for your genitals? You don’t know what you are missing. Trying searching with “electro” on xtube – hundreds of AMAZING electrostim -induced orgasms out there to watch – many “no hands”.

          • Adam Black

            missing out on torture?
            something I wont worry about

          • Steven Klimecky

            Ummm…these devices have very fine controls with all kinds of frequencies and wave pattern capabilities that can cause or induce (along with a vast array of conductive implements that attach or inset or wrap around just about any part) some very intense and pleasurable stimulatory feelings that can’t even be described unless you’ve tried it. Sure they can also be used, at higher frequencies, to induce more painful sensations, for those who ARE into that, but they are actually designed to be able to give very arousing pleasurable or stimulatory experiences. It’s nothing like just hooking a battery and wires up to one’s parts and cranking up the juice.

        • Adam Black

          I thought the same thing after the last guy was arrested for squatting in my basement.

          sex was phenomenal tho.

          ( Maybe I should visit him in jail )

          • I guess when he said he would be right up, he meant it.

            Sex seems to trump all sorts of situations..

          • Adam Black

            ya, but I might be reaching my limit there

          • And that makes me wonder why I would want to go out in search of interesting activities.

          • Adam Black

            because they dont knock on your fireescape at 2 am?

          • Hmm, there is that. But would ya really want them too?

            Of course my dogs would try to bite them in the ass if they did. Uncivilized beasts that they are.

    • Amanda

      Imagine how all the men who have been with Fran Dresher have felt.

    • ཟློད་

      And a leetle, teeny weenie.

  • Adam Black

    Hi virginity sure was

  • Rafael

    Why are the bad guys so sexy? that laampros….

  • ཟློད་

    “Did you have a reservation? Let me see…table for two…? Okay, please follow me. My name is Laampros, and I’ll be your server today…”

  • ཟློད་

    Coloring quibble (in what is otherwise a wonderful coloring job): Panel 4, in between Laampros’s right arm and torso / back, the negative space should be yellow rather than red. Red make him look fat!

    • I don’t think that is negative space. I think it is the muscle of his forearm.

    • And honestly, who doesn’t look a little chunkier in red? I ask you? Angels stay in perfect shape forever, demons have to work out. That’s why they call it hell. That’s why demons are bitter. Yep.

  • ཟློད་

    Duncan is kneeling, in hopes that Laampros will knight him with his erection!

    • Touching him on each shoulder seems such a waste… just sayin’.

  • KryX

    I’m curious. Has Kyle been coming all this time?

    • ཟློད་

      By now he’s probably sobbing into his pillow.

      • Adam Black

        arent we all?

        • Yes, but with me it’s because I HAVEN’T had any unending orgasms… so I guess, like everything its all POV… mmmmm…

          • Adam Black

            I could fix that

          • Steven Klimecky

            Taking volunteers?????
            Even erotic electrostimulation toys only go so far.

          • Adam Black

            Do you have brain spiders too?

            There is one spot on your spine that does it. You can an electrode implanted above that spot.

            also google : TASP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasp see: wirehead )

          • Adam Black

            “so far” .. makes me wonder how far along this road you have journeyed

          • Steven Klimecky

            Ditto!

    • Steven Klimecky

      Good question – it wasn’t made very clear when that orgasm actually stopped, if it has.

      • You guys ask the tough questions don’t you? I’m not sure what to root for in this scenario. I hope so/not?

        Okay it’s like one of THOSE nights when it’s really good and you… erm… ejaculate… one too many times and everything gets sore?

        So are we still on the good side of jism-city or have we gone to the bad side of town?

        • Adam Black

          hed have brain damage by now

          • You say that like it’s a bad thing… I’m confused?

          • Adam Black

            The mentally disabled deserve luvin too. Go for it. Just be prepared for some difficult conversations. Mr boyfriend forver.

          • Ahhh well, it’s not like he was Oscar Wilde before he went to bed with Duncan and he zapped him… we’ll cope. 😀

          • vessto

            I think the spell prolonged Kyle’s orgasm so the audience with Laampros to last longer. Maybe if th ejaculations stops Laampros will disappear?

          • Adam Black

            there is a premature ejaculation joke, in there somewhere… I’ll leave it to someone else to find it

          • Adam Black

            Oscar Wilde in Tunisia?

        • Steven Klimecky

          Your second/third sentences above. I’m feeling that quandary as well!

    • vessto

      OMG, as you say it now… O_O I think…. I think…. HE’S COMING NON-STOP!!!!!!!!

    • Adam Black

      coming —and going

  • ཟློད་

    LAAMPROS (menacingly): “I’d like to dance with your date.”
    DUNCAN (nervously): “Uh, okay…!”
    (runs away)
    LAAMPROS: “Come here, Kyle, let’s slow-dance. Lean into me. That’s it–smell my crotch.”

    • Ive… had… the time of my li-i-ife

      And Ive never felt this way before

      And I swear
      This is tru-u-ue

      And I owe it all to you

      • vessto

        I love this song.:) And its subname has something to do with Kyle-Laampros eventual smex coming.

      • Alex!!!!

        Cruel singing on the list. General meanness. Frightening lyrics. Sensibilities threatened… evil… evilllllllll (all said in Vincent Price tone).

        *looks around and sees no on is paying attention*

        Okay… sorry… carry on.

  • ཟློད་

    I think there is a missing word balloon in panel 3.
    “Who dares disturb LAAMPROS THE LOVECRAFTIAN?!! I swear, if it’s the Mormons again…”

  • I can certainly say I did not see THIS coming exactly.

    OMG though, what??? I knew this comic was incredible.

    I wanna engage in speculation but I also just love being along for the ride. Like whoa.

  • When I imagine this scene I hear that dramatic chanting that often accompanies supernatural, fiendish villains in movies. “LAAMPROS! *booming timpani strikes* SUKOTH! *boom boom* SUGGOROTH!”

    • ཟློད་

      SUFFERING! *boom boom* SUCCOTASH! *boom boom*

    • Amanda

      There’s always one smart ass in the crowd. So….. “Laampros…..SUKOTH…..*cough*my dicketh*cough”.

      • I wonder what would have happened if Duncan had used those words in his spell…

        • Amanda

          A lot of interesting things I imagine.

    • Steven Klimecky

      As in “O Fortuna” / “Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi” from Orff’s “Carmina Burana”?

      • SofiaT

        Strange, Carmina Burana is what came to my mind too when I read dereule’s comment -but this scene here is more “Conan The Barbarian” than “Excalibur”.

      • What I was thinking is more like Ave Satani from The Omen, but yes, pretty much the same idea.

  • Sapfo

    Today it is the Cinnamon Bun Day in my country. Celebrate by eating a cinnamon bun (.^_^:)

    • Sweeet. I think only an evil toleration regime would deny Cinnamon Bun Day,

      Oh HELL. I’ll bet Kyle is getting NO Cinnamon buns today. I ask you people what Duncan punishment is enough to make up for THAT??? I dread to imagine.

      • Sapfo

        Everyone gets a cinnamon bun, that is why Laampros is here. He is the santa of cinnamon buns ^_^

        • Amanda

          LAAMPROS, actually has cinnamon buns.

          • Sapfo

            Yes, like Santa, but with cinnamon buns. I think I kind of like this Laampros ^_^

    • SofiaT

      Got a recipe handy?

      • Sapfo

        Yes, but not in Enlish. Anyway there is a coffeeshop in town that makes cinnamon buns with sourdough. They are so Good!

        • Oh god does that sound good. I just bought a ticket. I don’t even know where you and your saint of cinnamon buns are… but I just bought a ticket.

          AND THE SEARCH BEGINS!!!!

          • Sapfo

            Well, it is a little brown house with white corners (like a gingerbread house) in the middle of the woods….
            NO! Not Hansel and Greta!
            Are your middle name Indy?

          • Just don’t forget to send a dozen to me while you’re there.

      • Sapfo

        decilitre

        Servings: about 45

        The dough:

        15 decilitre flour, 900g
        1 decilitre white sugar or Syrup
        3/4 tsp salt
        1 teaspoon ground cardamom
        150g unsalted butter
        1 packet of yeast for sweet doughs, 50 g
        5 cups milk

        Filling:
        100g unsalted butter
        3/4 decilitre granulated sugar
        2 tablespoons ground cinnamon

        tins of paper
        1 egg for brushing
        pearl sugar

        Do this:

        Pour most of the flour in a rear bowl or food processor bowl, save a deciliter to out baking

        Add the Syrup or sugar, salt, cardamom and butter in clicks. Crumble the yeast over.

        Heat a little of the milk and mix with the remaining cold milk to a maximum of 37 degrees.

        Pour the milk into bakskålen and work about 5 minutes in the machine. The dough should start dropping the edges of the bowl.

        Those who work the dough by hand should dissolve the yeast in a little of the warm milk.

        Mix the ingredients for the filling. Let the dough rise for about 30 minutes with towel. Divide the dough into 4 pieces and roll them out to centimeter-thick rectangles.

        Spread with filling and roll up. Cut the roll into pieces and put into paper cases. Let rise about 30 minutes and turn the oven to 225 degrees celcius

        Brush with beaten egg and sprinkle with granulated sugar/pearl sugar. Bake the buns 8 -10 minutes.

        Eat warm or reheated. Can be frozen.

        • SofiaT

          You’re a goddess. 😀

          • Sapfo

            I hope you understand the different units. and if you want, you can mix the filling with almond paste, about 2-3 tablespoons

          • SofiaT

            *nods* I googled decilitre = 100ml.
            Will probably halve the recipe, 45 is a bit too much 😀

          • Sapfo

            Most of the time we dubble up and then put the rest in the freezer. Good for afternoon tea 😉

          • SofiaT

            Great idea!

          • Klaus

            Funny how different things are in different countries. Here (slightly west of Sweden) recipies are always in decilitres (or litres) while stuff is sold in centilitres (or litres). Millilitre is a laboratory unit.

          • SofiaT

            I know -I’m used to ml for liquids and gr for solids but sometimes here in Australia they use ounces (ozs) and it’s freaking complicating, trying to convert an ounce into a unit that makes sense to me.

            Also, what the heck is “a stick of butter”? o.O

          • A stick of butter is a half cup of butter or 8 table spoons or a 1/4 pound.

            Here, they break the butter up into sticks and you can buy a pound or a half pound.

          • SofiaT

            Ah. Measuring butter in a cup is always a bit tricky.
            We got “bricks” of 250gr or 500gr (about a pound) and there are lines on the packaging to mark every 50gr -so you know where to cut if you want a smaller quantity.

          • The stick usually have lines to denote the table spoons, 1/4 cup and 1/3 cup.

            I’ve gotten butter sold as a solid piece from Trader Joe’s but all the regular grocery stores sell it in sticks, unless you buy Irish butter. Then it’s a little different.

          • Was looking to see how much a cup of butter weighed and came across this.

            http://www.traditionaloven.com/conversions_of_measures/butter_converter.html

          • SofiaT

            That’s handy.

          • Here we are reading a comic that stars dat chest and I’m posting a site about measuring butter

          • SofiaT

            Hey, we’re people with varied interests. Nothing wrong with that.

            Although I’m sure @disqus_FidZAwLkzS:disqus would come up with something about “dat ass” and the usefulness of butter in a heartbeat if he read your comment. A la Last Tango in Paris most likely. And he’d find a way to involve “dat chest” too.

          • That thought popped briefly into my mind (and partly why I did not mention “dat ass”, but figured nah, he probably won’t see this. And now you’ve gone and summoned him. o.O

          • SofiaT

            We both know he’d see it eventually anyway. He’s like Sauron’s eye, he misses nothing.

          • Well, crap. I forgot about his ability to do evil. Sent me into tv tropes without a way out.

          • Is she a goddess who delivers?

          • Sapfo

            goes without saying that I’m a goddess, but unfortunately I do not deliver.

          • Can you get some cherubs or something?

          • Sapfo

            Sorry, they are all out looking for a good man for me.

          • ALL of them? Aww come on, it can’t be THAT hard for a goddess… okay cherubs out on biz… so let’s get you some minions for delivery purposes. Just forbid them to eat said bun-age prior to delivery. That’s always a minion issue. Mmmmm… will consider. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            hmmm minions, I should get some of those. Do you know a place?

          • Totally available online but shipping is not free… they always get you with shipping and minions are heavy. SCAM!

          • Sapfo

            Best wishes with the buns 🙂

          • You are both excellent people and the only lack I see here, is that of a transdimensional insta-portal to send said bun-age and pancakes to the USofA…

            Let me specify… a portal NOT powered by Kyle betrayal…. but still a bun carrying portal.

            If I need to compliment you more for this portal to manifest… I’m up for it, just let me know. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Us costums would not let me put up a portal. They seems very iffy about it. Don´t know why.

          • Bureaucrats are such a pain. And where was the INS when our Kyle was being smuggled out of our dimensions. Men In Black are never around when you need them. FACT.

        • Klaus

          In this context bak means bake, not rear. Though what a baking bowl is, I do not know.

          • Sapfo

            Well Klaus, you could try it that way, but I can not garanti the end result. XD

          • SofiaT

            I think it means the metal bowl of the mixer machine.

          • Sapfo

            Google translate #_#

          • ཟློད་

            So what does “Yay borshnay yay don kadiskadoo” mean?

          • Sapfo

            I have no idea. I don´t think that is a language from our world.

        • Denise Cruz

          OH, now I’m hungry! lol I’ll try this later! 🙂 Now it’s lunchtime!

    • Denise Cruz

      Huuummmm! Delicious! I envy you right now! lol

  • SofiaT

    *coughs to clear voice*
    At this moment, YP is #94 on the Top Web Comics’ list and Artifice is #149.

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if we made sure both are in the top #100 by tomorrow, just in time for the page update?
    YP had climbed as high as #72 a couple of days ago, I’m sure we can do better than that!

    C’mon, team effort!

    • I voted today. Twice.

      • SofiaT

        You can vote twice in a day? It won’t let me.

        Did you do it from different IPs?

        • Nope. For some reason it’s been letting me vote more than once. It used to only let me vote once a day, but the last couple of days…

          Granted I don’t know if it counts it, but it lets me.

          • SofiaT

            Have you done something to your cookies?

          • Never mind. Apparently I didn’t see the note saying hey you voted today already.

          • SofiaT

            LOL. Time to head to bed? 🙂

          • Yes, yes it was.

        • Denise Cruz

          I can do it every 6 hours. O.o

        • Feverfew_M

          I’ve found that I can vote more than once a day when my computer was either shut down in between or in energy saving mode. Give it a try? 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Nah, I can’t fool it:
            “Your vote or a vote from a similar network address has already been logged for today, thank you. You can vote again in 10 hours”

          • Feverfew_M

            Darn, too bad. 🙁

    • Denise Cruz

      Sofia… I can’t read your answers to my comments, because it says your activites are private…
      I use to go to the user’s name and compare hours to find the right one, once I’m not always here! ^^ There is another way to check them?

      • SofiaT

        Yep, just go to your Disqus notifications (top of comments: newest/community/my disqus). Once you’re into the My Disqus tab, you have a list of the people who’ve replied to you and the time they did it. Press the blue hyperlink and it will reload this page with that comment on the top. 🙂

        • Denise Cruz

          Exactly! This is exactly what I was doing but, for some weird reason, Your blue hyperlink doesn’t appear for me, anymore… Everyone else is there but yours isn’t… i.i

          • SofiaT

            That’s weird. My account being private shouldn’t affect that.

          • Denise Cruz

            It says your activities are private… showing a small lock.

          • SofiaT

            Are you clicking on my name? You should be clicking on the second hyperlink “…has replied to you on

            The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 35”

          • Denise Cruz

            I already clicked on everything…lol It keeps giving me that message I’ve told you above… I don’t understand…

    • link?

      • SofiaT

        On the right side of this page, same height as the paypal donation button. You can vote for both Artifice and YP on the same day but then you have to wait about 20hr before you can vote again. I vote for one (press the widget and it will take you there) then return here and vote for the other.

        • Thanks! I don’t know why I never noticed that.

          • SofiaT

            Probably because you’re too busy fretting what Laampros is doing there 😀

  • purplefoxglove

    That moment when you thought there was no bonus page on Wednesday and are proven wrong. AWESOME!
    Feedback on the new store? Alex officially loves us 🙂 I’ll start saving up for next summer right away!

    • SofiaT

      I have my eye on that Annihilator Dossier! Mwa ha ha!

      • purplefoxglove

        Oh yesssssssss! That one made me squeal in delight ^^

  • Tina

    YAY NEW PAGE TONIGHT! This will definitely get me through my day at work!

    • Denise Cruz

      YEESSSS! I’ m dying for it, here!!

      • Tina

        Does anybody have a young virgin sacrifice we can use to speed up time?!

        • Denise Cruz

          Oh! I’m still kind of hoping this isn’t going to be necessary… Really! (crossed fingers)

        • Amanda

          Yay!! Im safe!!!

    • Newwwwww paaaaage. Auuuuggggghhhh (gugles like homor simpson over a doughnut)

      • Tina

        Mmm… Duncan….

  • KrisYWC

    Is anyone else thinking this guy is Hellboy’s older, sexier brother?

    • Well you sorta have a point… more like if you brother were Fabio… then Lampy would be the Fabio brother. Pretty, long-hair, shaved… in that girly-demon sorta way. Hellboy is rather dude-ish.

      But a good thought.

      • Amanda

        HAHA!! Weird second time for a Fabio mention!!! I was calling my baby Fabio, because he has long blond hair and is unreasonably attractive.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Hmmmm ….here’s one fellow that never found Fabio particularly attractive.

          • Denise Cruz

            Why not?!
            Even I know who is Fabio… Beautiful long blond hair, bright blue eyes, charming figure…
            What’s wrong with him?! (I’m just trying understand, ok?! XD You surprised me!) 🙂
            Then, if you don’t mind, name one attractive guy on your pov, please! (Can’t be Anni or Kyle!Oh! Not even Laampy! XD)

          • SofiaT

            He’s a bit too…. 1980s. If you know what I mean.

            He might be better with short hair of course, dunno.

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, yeah! I do understand! He does need to repaginate ‘a little bit’.
            Even so, I still think he’s a handsome man! 🙂 Just needs some… innovation… I think.

          • Amanda

            I have a type that makes me drool, and they are like anti muscular

          • SofiaT

            sooooo… you won’t be ordering a Duncan body pillow any time soon? 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            BTW: I sent that e-mail to Alex, this evening… 😉

          • SofiaT

            Poor Alex… he has to deal with all our depravity.

            But then again, it’s all his fault for creating such hot characters.

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh! I spared him from the sordid details… He’s doing such a great job here. It wouldn’t be fair…lol Afterwards, I said he could see our original talk about that request right here, in the comments…lol

          • Denise Cruz

            Hey! Did you see that?! Alex is saying he’ll look what we have in mind for the pillows! Yay!! 😀 (So happy about it!!)

          • SofiaT

            I think he’s joking 😀

            …I think.

          • Denise Cruz

            I’ll kill him too, then!! XD

          • SofiaT

            And then you’ll have a few thousand grieving fans coming after you with pitchforks 😛

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, yes! I had forgotten about that…
            Hi, guys! (waves) I won’t kill him! I promise you! XDD

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, I didn’t send him all the sordid details… It wouldn’t be fair.
            But I said he could see our whole conversation about it here, in the comments..lol
            And you’re right: IT IS his fault! XDD

          • Denise Cruz

            So, you like slender guys, uhn?!
            I have nothing against them. I think it’s all about the charming…lol

          • Denise Cruz

            I have nothing against that kind of guy. But, I still prefer the guys like (the freaking HOT) Hugh Jackman! *.*

          • Amanda

            Nate Ruess from FUN is my current crush. Seriously, the man is a doll, and if my mother wouldn’t notice I would have him tied in my basement, singing to me, while I sit in my drool.

          • Denise Cruz

            XDD Lucky him once your mother isn’t absent! XDD
            He is pretty cute!! ^v^
            Did you ever hear about Jensen Ackles?!
            He is my version of ‘doll’!
            I think they even look a little bit with each other! But Jen is a little less slender. 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            Weird thing! All my comments are vanishing today! Almost everything I write…
            Well… I’m going to write it again, then.

            XDD Lucky him that your mother isn’t absent!! XDD
            He’s, indeed, pretty cute! ^v^
            Did you ever hear about Jensen Ackles?
            He’s my version of ‘doll’, as you said! ^v^
            I think they even look a little bit with each other, but Jen is a little less slender! 🙂

          • Amanda

            Jensen Ackles is all kinds of adorable. But I cant say I stick to my one type, God knows I am a Kentucky girl and that’s makes the entire University of Kentucky’s men’s basketball team fair game.

          • Denise Cruz

            XDD I can’t blame you!
            It’s hard to stick to one only type, when so many beautiful guys are out there!! XD

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hmmm….
            Some of my faves:
            Robby Benson (when he was in the film “Ode to Billy Joe”)
            Wentworth Miller
            Tom Welling
            Ian Somerhalder
            Darren Criss
            Taylor Lautner
            Zachary Quinto
            Justin Long
            Eric Balfour
            Jensen Ackles
            …list goes on and on…

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, Ian Somerhalder!! That amazing eyes…
            How could someone doesn’t like that?! XD

          • Amanda

            True Dat. I was going with the consensus middle age bodice ripper readers.But I love that he has a sense of humor about himself.

          • Never found him attractive either.

    • Third cousin!

    • Amanda

      What are you talking about HellBoy is pretty sexy on his own? Then I remember I am talking about Ron Perlman and go smack myself…..

      • Ha! Nice.

      • Denise Cruz

        XDDDDD Amanda, you are amazing!! XDDD

  • I SOOOO want to stay up and camp for a page tonight. I don’t know why I think tonight’s page is important, but I feel that it is.

    That said, I’m just starting my day and I’m exhausted. It’s been Monday all week and now that it’s Friday, it’s really just… “not-Monday”. So could someone bake some brownies laced with uppers to go around, with the nice tea selection for the campout. Then I can actually stay awake and my partner won’t laugh and have to take the laptop away when I fall asleep and it tips over and my glasses get all smushed and… and… I don’t have to read all the cool commentary six hours later….

    Anyone? Anyone?…… oh well.

    • Sapfo

      Why not just take a afternoon nap? Thats what I do when I might know camping is going to be late. Just saying.
      Feel like a little old lade for taking a nap, but then when I am really camping I am a teenager again XD

      • Yeah me too… on the teenage thing. Just working all dayyyyyy and no nap time will really be available. I’d have to snooze at the open of the campout and then wake up in time for paging… that’s technically do-able, but not completely easy to orchestrate.

        However, as Kyle is certainly learning, sometimes the important things in life take a little extra effort. In fact, I bet Kyle would like a nice bun just about now… 🙂

        • Sapfo

          Well mr Dangerfield. I´m of to bed, taking my nap, also known as the Sleeping-Beauty-sleep, and I hope the new page will give me the kiss that will wake me up.

        • Sapfo

          Well Chris, you seem to be taking a long nap. Have not seen you for two days. Kind of missing your sarcastic comment 😉

          • Thanks Sapfo.

            It’s nice to be missed even if it’s just a tiny bit.

            I’d decided it’s best for me to step out of commentary on this page as it upset me to such an extreme point that it surprised me. I’m being honest when I say I read plenty of dark fantasy and I don’t have problems with rough ideas. I think this has to do with the variance between expectation and actuality.

            When Laampros fondled Kyle and I saw Kyle’s ‘paralyzed’ expressions of hopeless misery and horror in panels 3 & 4… I honestly reared back…

            I realized that if Veronica hadn’t clicked ‘off’ the photoshop layer(s) which contained the tears running down Kyle’s suffering face, we would have been viewing a classic scene of homosexual hentai torture-porn. In fact with one more layer, the one with the ubiquitous little white anal vibrator, that is inevitably inserted in most underage Asian anuses, with the cord and controller hanging out so our violators can have greater control over their victims humiliation and suffering… Well those were the only elements missing.

            But hey, I’ve been told repeatedly on this list that this is the ‘adversity’ being used to ‘build’ our superhero. Non-sexual adversity apparently doesn’t count (that is apparently puppies & rainbows) and thus must not do as much good as this type of hyper-sexualized violation. I wouldn’t feel such concern, but so far here, sex is clearly only shown for misery and suffering (more titillating don’t you think)?

            Don’t kid yourself, the lesson here is that sex leads to bad things. In the past, classically, gay sex is the road to much worse than straight sex, so Alex is following in a fine honored tradition. I realize the link to the satirical Christian site was a joke, but maybe not so far off the mark…

            “(AW) …has created a free educational online comic that recounts the sad tale of Kyle, a young superhero who is recruited to the “gay” (sic) lifestyle by an older predator. I can assure you that the comic is quite accurate in its hard-hitting depiction of the (sic) ties between homosexuality and devil worship; as well as the horrifying consequences of touching another man–namely, that they both go straight to hell.”

            Well all joking aside… that is pretty much word-for-word and act for act, what we’ve share here…

            That’s certainly been 100% true for Kyle in this story… he found himself an older predator and he did end up straight in hell.

            Then I found Alex’s caution in a later post pretty funny.

            “…But we’re now starting to go to places that are going to make this comment section unpleasant for a lot of folks. Joking around is of course OK, but I’m officially asking everyone here to keep the tone here thoughtful and the environment a pleasant place to be, both for long-timers and newcomers alike, and to bear that in mind before we post.”

            Okay, I’m still lost as to which definition of ‘rape’ or ‘violtions

            Yes joking about suffering misery and violation are fine as long as we can hide our better selves behind the narrow definition that if the anus don’t fit we must acquit. Well we all know from main-stream media that penises are evil and must not be shown. The girl in the scary house can’t have good sex, but she can be dismembered. Kyle can’t take it up the rectum, but it’s all in good fun if he’s a betrayed, paralyzed, scared to death, totally alone, a virgin transported to hell and it STILL waiting to die.

            Hey don’t kid yourself… Kyle doesn’t know any different… (he didn’t get the memo with Alex’s WOG), no one knows where he is and in his mind he did this to himself. Like all good victims he blames himself and should have known better. Right?

            Yep… it’s pretty clear I’m the only wimp in the movie theatre who doesn’t like it when that guy in the mask with the chainsaw is dismembering the girl and the rest of the audience is laughing their assess off and… hey it’s all fiction so it’s just in good fun. Right? Right?

            Like all victims, it’s my fault… and Kyle’s and we deserve what we get. I made the primal mistake of assuming that the super hero comics I longed for in my closeted teens bore some relation to Alex’s.

            It’s my fault for wearing the short skirt so I was asking for it… clearly.

            Honestly, I do support an author in telling the tale they want to tell but, at the same time, this is a forum for sharing how the work in progress effects us. So there you go. Fortunately, there are a lot of folk who like human suffering presented in just this way. Enjoy.

          • Sapfo

            Miss you? You are on of the most frequent commentators on this comic. And then not a word for three days. You scared me a little.

            I could have analyzed the page for you, but I think you have already done it long enough. However, I can probably say that this scene will evolve over 3-4 pages more. Duncan’s goal will be revealed, Laampros will turn the table on Duncan by not giving him what he wants and/or giving an ultimatum that Duncan can not accept. And Kyle will eventually get free.

            If you want to skip these pages, I understand that. I myself am just hoping that this scene will end very soon.

            I must say that I have no problem reading a dark twisted story/comic, but I do like to know in in advance what it is I am reading. Alex & co are walking a very tine line right now…

            As for sex being bad. Chris, I am a woman, of course sex is bad… been the girl in the mini, survived, went home crying. (Not rape, just a very bad situation where the word “no” was not respected)

    • Denise Cruz

      I never baked brownies in my whole life but, if you want some carrot cake with chocolate icing…
      Is it good enough?! 🙂

      I hope I can see the new page tonight, but it always come so late… the last one came after 2:30 AM, here…

      Anyway, I’m going to try camping with all of you again! It’s always fun! 😀

    • SofiaT

      I made pancakes. Just had some for breakfast, served with apricot jam.

      Want a pancake and a cup of rooibos tea? 🙂

  • Heather Kallinger

    I love how everything just took a huge, totally unexpected turn in the last few pages. Thank you for the amazing art and interesting storytelling, Alex!

  • Cman65

    if we get the extra page it should be in Sunday morning my time or as I come home from work tonight

  • Hazard
    • SofiaT

      Very well done! All he needs is blue eyes, and we got a winner!

    • Denise Cruz

      So cute!!

    • Hazard

      Funnily enough, the photographer who took this, Thomas Knights, has an upcoming exhibition called “Red Hot,” which this photo is a part of 😛

      • Denise Cruz

        Interesting! I’d love seeing that! I’m crazy about redhaired people! ^v^

    • Jamie Dutton

      Niiiiice, verra verra nice!

  • Amanda

    We need chat room. Sometimes the comments are bit difficult to keep track of

    • SofiaT

      Or we need a YP fanpage somewhere -somewhere that it’s not facebook. I got my boss in there 😛

      • Amanda

        I have snooty family on mine, and I don’t really feel like being preached at for every little thing I enjoy.

        • SofiaT

          I got my mom on fb, and she’s not snooty. She doesn’t like comics but I fear she wouldn’t mind seeing two men getting it on so she would probably check it out. Last thing I need is my mom starting a discussion with @disqus_FidZAwLkzS:disqus in here. She would enjoy it too much and I would have to cover my eyes and ears and pretend I was far, far away… She’s already talked about her sex life in front of me many times and way too casually and I’ve yet to recover from it.

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDDDDD I’m SO, SO sorry , honey! But, I can’t help laughing about it!

          • Adam Black

            two birds with one stone: send her to Gplus:

            https://plus.google.com/108177944448520252638/posts/MJKtu49rVf7

          • SofiaT

            a) is that you there with Hillary Clinton??

            and

            b) No. No. No. NO.

          • Adam Black

            yeah.
            ( i always forget i have no picture on discus )

            thats a lot of denials. protest too much?

            If mom is always on facebook, G+ might be a way to hide from her too..

          • SofiaT

            I think Google already knows too much about me and my internet habits, not sure I want to give it even more access into my life.

        • Tina

          My parents have no idea I like Yaoi… I’d like it to stay that way. They would judge me for life while my sister gets away with everything like getting pregnant.

          • WarGoddess

            Yeah, i’ with you there! My fiancee and best friends know about it, but no one in my family does. My mom knows I read romance novels and comics, but she doean’t know that I stray over into the yaoi genre. She told me that she wouldn’t care about whatever it is I’m into, she’ll love me no matter what, but it just feels awkward because she’s my mom and stuff. If my great aunt ever found out, oh lord. She’s a hardcore Baptist, and was disapproving when she found out that I read Harry Potter because it has “magic” in it.

          • Denise Cruz

            My dad doesn’t know, but I believe he wouldn’t mind.
            My brother HATES it! He thinks this is the end of the world and I really don’t care about it! XDD

    • Tina

      Well, we could always get like a group AIM or something. Or maybe Alex could make us a forum… Then we could separate theories and general silliness into categories! Hell with all the donations it’d probably be easy to maintain.

      *nudge nudge Alex*

  • silibub

    Oh cool, WarGoddess’s baby Kyle and Annihilator are on the fanart page – lookin’ good!

    • SofiaT

      I’ve set it as my desktop background pic 🙂

    • Denise Cruz

      Aren’t they adorable?!

    • Jamie Dutton

      Too dang cute, even with the beard, lol!

    • WarGoddess

      Ooh yay! I haven’t been on here in a while, so that’s great to know! XD

  • ཟློད་

    Just KEEPING AN EYE OUT for a new page! Ha ha

  • Measuring the ingredients for the dough right now, but if y’all want to link to some examples of what you have in mind for the “body pillows” of Kyle and Duncan, I can certainly look into that… 🙂

    • Denise Cruz

      Yay!!!! Thanks!! Double thanks, actually!! 😀

    • SofiaT

      *whistles innocently* What? Body pillows? I don’t know nothing about no body pillows…

      • Denise Cruz

        I’ll kill you!! XDD
        He can see our talk from yesterday!
        I didn’t do anything by myself! XDD

        • SofiaT

          Ok, how weird is it that there actualy are body pillows of anime characters for sale? o.O

          http://au.hellocosplay.com/loveplus-nene-anegasaki-body-pillow-p-4519.html

          • Denise Cruz

            I know there are a lot of those! I told you that, yesterday… Don’t you remember?
            They are so beautiful!!

          • SofiaT

            Sorry, I didn’t follow the whole thread, I was at work yesterday.

            Well, I hope people just buy them to cuddle with. Or I’d rather not know about it. 😛

          • Interesting.

            My question is, what’s the difference between the fabrics? What is “Peach Skin” and why is it the least expensive?

            And when it says “Buy with pillow inner” does that mean that these are just pillow-cases?

            Do any of you know someone who owns one?

          • SofiaT

            I was just wondering what the heck is “peach skin” myself. o.O

            Edit: also “2way”???

          • Tina

            Teehee, maybe that could be Duncan to simulate his hairy chest *drools*

          • SofiaT

            I think @chrisdangerfield:disqus mentioned fur yesterday 😛

            But then again that makes me think of Chubaka.

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD breathless XDDDDDDDDDD

          • Denise Cruz

            If you close your eyes,it could! XD

          • I think 2way means with two images — either reversible or with an image on either side. One a little revealing and one truly naughty. I guess you could use the tamer one when you parents visit… 😉

            Denise, do you know how the 2way works with these pillows? Is it an image on either side of the pillow and then you turn it over? Or do you turn them inside out?

          • SofiaT

            I was thinking maybe it’s a frontal view of an image on one side and the backside view on the other? Although that one really is weird, what you said makes more sense.

            As for my mom, if she came to my place and saw a body pillow of a half-naked Duncan, she’d most likely take it with her on her way out…

          • Denise Cruz

            Exactly this way!! ^^

          • SofiaT

            sooo… if you turn the pillow what you get is “dat ass”??

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDD I wouldn’t mind, at all!
            Would You?!
            (Maybe his whole body from back, looking at us over his own shoulder?! *.*)

          • SofiaT

            Strangely, I’m not sure I’d feel very comfortable with that. I do have some limits when it comes to my obsession with literary characters, lol! Cuddling with an image of them I can justify, lying on their asses, um… not too sure 😛

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDDD I do understand you! It could be a little bit of weird to explain to someone else, as an example…
            But, jokes aside, it doesn’t necessarily has to bring him naked.. He looks pretty good in that suit and also wearing his fight clothes.
            I really would like to see ‘DAT CHEST’ on my bed.
            Maybe Alex should start a voting period, with some pictures, then make the 3 or 4 that got more votes…

          • Would it be weird to want a full size 6 ft whatever cutout pillow. Arms and legs to tangle up in? Yeah I thought so.

          • Denise Cruz

            Weird thing! I could’ve sworn I had replied to this comment of yours, yesterday . O.o
            Anyway, I totally understand what you mean! It could be pretty hard to explain that kind of picture to someone else… like a parent or even a friend who doesn’t like/understand this kind of fun.
            But, he really doesn’t need to be naked right there… He certainly looks pretty good wearing his suit or even in those fighting clothes/uniforms of his. I would love that too! ^v^ But, ofcourse,I really would like seeing ‘dat chest’ around here! ^v^

          • Denise Cruz

            You turn it over, Alex!!
            If you want some examples you can see a lot of it at e-bay (some of them are pretty disturbing, although..)

          • Guest

            You turn it over, Alex!!
            If you want some examples you can see a lot of it at e-bay (some of them are pretty disturbing, although..)

          • Denise Cruz

            ‘Peach Skin’ looks like suede, but a little thinner. It’s SOO soft!! ^v^

          • Interesting. Do you know why would it be cheaper than polyester? Is it very thin?

            And it seems like 2way is more expensive… So the default is to just have one image not two?

          • Denise Cruz

            Well.. about the cheaper thing, I can’t really say. But, I think it’s because isn’t as used for other clothes… I live in Brazil so, even the prices are different.. Sorry!

            You can make it with one or with two pictures… It’s your choice! But, if I could say something about it, I would prefer with two… (Anni at every angle! XD)

          • SofiaT

            You keep saying “interesting”. You’re making cunning plans right now, aren’t you?

            Whatever they are, I have a feeling you already have the market for them. And I think there hasn’t been a Kickstarter for body pillows yet 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Bad girl, Sofia! Bad! XDD

          • CH

            Is it wrong that I’d still cuddle Duncan (body pillow or otherwise) even knowing you’d have to keep one eye open just in case?

          • SofiaT

            Nah, I’m right there with you. Although I’d reckon the body pillow would be relatively harmless 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            We all are right there with you!! XD

          • Denise Cruz

            Weird! I could swear I’d already answered this question of yours… (confused)

            Well, it can be done in 2way or just one. It’s your choice. But, I never saw any with only one way.
            You can see a lot of them at ebay, as reference, if you want to. But, try to look for ‘Tiger and Bunny’ pillow case or maybe ‘Free – Iwatobi Swim Club’ pillow case. Otherwise, you’ll see A LOT of (pretty) disturbing pictures.(Yucks!!)
            About the price, someone told me it’s because the work done with the fabric, which is proper to imprint with that kind of paint.
            I really don’t know much about it. Sorry! Even so, I live in Brazil. It would probably be pretty different anyway… 🙂

          • ཟློད་

            Causasian coloring. What the crayons used to call “flesh” color, before they went all PC. Most common, therefore least expensive.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            I think it’s sand washed microfiber but I wouldn’t swear to it.

          • Denise Cruz

            Well.. There are a lot of .. disturbing (lets call this way) pictures on those pillows at internet.. So, as Adele once said: “God only knows….” XDD

          • Okay, yeah with Duncan on that… mmmm

          • SofiaT

            yeah, I know… *cough* What?

          • Ha! Don’t try to look innocent.

          • SofiaT

            Moi?? O.O

          • Aye, you! But then who needs to look innocent. We all want to cuddle that pillow.

          • Denise Cruz

            That’s our AJ!! XDD

          • 😀

          • ཟློད་

            The Japanese also have something called a “boyfriend’s arm” pillow. Shaped like an arm. Conceivably they could add throwing stars and blue bracers to it.

    • davefragments

      A body pillow is like a long pillow that might have a curl in it. The length depends on the users height. It for sleeping on your side…It acts as a head pillow, a pillow to hug your arms around, and is long enough to fit between your knees or thighs to keep the pressure off the bones.

      • SofiaT

        “…and is long enough to fit between your knees or thighs to keep the pressure off the bones.”

        Aha. Sounds plausible enough.

        • davefragments

          If I let my knees rest against each other, the skin breaks down to bedsores.

          • SofiaT

            I was just kidding 😀

          • davefragments

            sorry. I”m a little literal tonight. my bad

    • Jamie Dutton

      Alex, are you going to break our little minds again? Cause I gotta tell ya, these last few pages have been tough to recover from….

    • Adam Black

      We did ask for our own Deacons a few years back…

    • Body pillows need to happen. I could have used one in the last days 🙂

    • Denise Cruz

      May we have one with that first panel of page 21?! Or that one on page 18?! Please?! (Yes! I want that gorgeous Anni! *.* Maybe I’m a bad girl…What else can I said?!) XDD

      • I ‘see’ a body pillow with either of them lying on a bed, either under a sheet or the suit open/pulled down to the waist. One arm resting above the head, one resting on the stomach and then the head turned slightly to the one side as he (Duncan or Kyle) is relaxing.
        Either that or maybe Kyle – in same as mentioned above – lying on a ‘bed’ of flower petals instead.

        • Denise Cruz

          Any of these would be SO beautiful!! ^v^ I liked it!!

          • Ideas for body pillows. I could come up with a good handful 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            What would you think about Anni wearing his beautiful suit, coming out ‘that’ fire, looking at us with a phrase like: “I set fire to the rain… ” ?! (Can we use this phrase?! I’m not sure!) XD

          • Denise Cruz

            So could I!
            Did you send any of them to Alex?
            He said he would look at those. 😉

          • Hmm, maybe I should send them. Body pillows really would be awesome 🙂
            (even though it would take me forever to save money for one)

          • Denise Cruz

            Do it! I’m pretty sure he’ll be glad!

            Just let him know it’s about the body pillows over which all of us were talking in the comments.

            About the money, I’ll have a lot of effort to do to get it too. I’ll even need to find out who, among my friends and family, owns a international credit card and would let me use it…(’cause I don’t! >~<)

        • Denise Cruz

          Hey! Didn’t I had answered this comment, already?!
          Anyway: I did love it!! Such beautiful pictures it would be!! ^v^
          How about they both back to one another, but close enough so we could see both faces, and all that fire aroud them?!

    • Steven Klimecky

      A Kyle body pillow should have Kyle with his arms over his head – like the boy on the right in the “No Kissing” cover print. 😉

  • Tina

    So tired from work but I wanna see the next page!

    • Denise Cruz

      Take some coffee! It’s gonna help you with extra energy, at least for a while! 😉

      • SofiaT

        Spoken like a true Brazilian!

        • Denise Cruz

          Born and raised, honey!! 😉

          • I have some coffee from Brazil. Sol de Minas

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDDD I live in Minas!! XDD Again: Born and raised! 😀

          • That’s so cool!

          • Denise Cruz

            Isn’t fun how life brings us coincidences?

          • Indeed! This is actually one of our more favorites out of Brazil.

          • Denise Cruz

            That’s good! We do produce A LOT of good coffee right here! And milk!! ^v^

      • Tina

        Except I don’t drink coffee! -_-;

        Plus if I do that now (at midnight) I’ll never sleep lol

        • Sapfo

          Time to start drinking then 😉
          But sometimes coffee works the other way around.

          • SofiaT

            Also, someone needs to take one for the team and run to the bathroom while the page updates 😉

          • Sapfo

            Dont look at me, I just took the biggest risk by sleeping all night 😉

          • Tina

            I just went sooo @Sapfo go!

          • Sapfo

            Cant really help you there. Camping is not a childs game. This is the toughest. So now the question is, are you with us or are you with us?
            Or do you just slide down the soft comfortable sheets. Okay, you make me want to sleep again, not good at all. Where is that coffee.

          • Denise Cruz

            – Passes a full bottle to Sapfo – Pretty hot! Careful!

          • Sapfo

            Thank you! Coffee good!

          • Denise Cruz

            You are very welcome! If you’d like some carrot cake with chocolate icing…

          • Tina

            Truly it is a game for the mighty. Only those of a strong heart can withstand the wait and the subsequent heartache that follows the update as our clever but cruel monarch leads through his twisting maze of plot!

          • I’ve already done that twice in the last 8-10 days on a couple comics. It’s not my turn xD

          • Sapfo

            Hi Danish, feeling better now I hope. Have you been up all night 😉

          • Better, but not all well yet. What a loong week this has been with things piling onto eachother xD And no, I showed up about half an hour before you did. You still have a chance today 😉

          • Sapfo

            I want some fight in you and it is no fun in knowing you are sitting by you computer not feeling well.
            The page is very seldom up before 6 am.

            You did not like the soup last time, I just send over some tea insteed ^_^

          • I woke up, needing to use the bathroom and didn’t dare go back to bed at 5:20, but yeah I look forward to being fully back at my game again as well.

          • Sapfo

            To even out the game I have just gotten a infected cuticle. Can´t write as fast as I normale do 🙁

          • D: Hope it goes away soon.

          • Sapfo

            So do I!

        • Denise Cruz

          I couldn’t sleep if I don’t take it! I love coffee! ^v^ It’s 01:20 AM here, and I’m on it since early! ^^

          • Tina

            Lol that’s true, after an update I’m like buzzing with excitement. Before passing out from lack of sleep

          • Denise Cruz

            Don’t even start with it! Last Wednesday I waited for it, then I felt bad because something I’d eaten early that day and couldn’t sleep at all!!
            At 3 PM I looked like a zombie!! XDD

          • Tina

            Last Wednesday I had such a shitty night but the update helped. I was just a zombie at work after only getting 5 hours sleep

          • Denise Cruz

            That sucks! Working sleepy is the worse! I couldn’t go to my violine class… Wouldn’t be able to pay attention to…

  • Holly

    I need to be at filming in less than 10 hours, and i am not at all sleepy. As things stand, I might very well just have to stay up all night and survive on energy drink tomorrow.

    Oh well, at least my inability to sleep means I can page camp with you all.

    • Tina

      The 5 Hour Energy shot things advertised lately actually work. Just… take it like a shot. It tastes awful

      • Holly

        I’d rather have something to make me sleep now, then keep me up tomorrow. *sighs*

  • Dough is being kneaded. Within the hour I should be able to post the new page. 🙂

    • Sapfo

      That means coffee time for me 😉
      Edit: And when I got out in the kitchen I made tea. Strang o.O

    • Tina

      A whole hour? *rubs eyes* hmmm… anyone know something quietly exciting I can do to stay awake? Already re-read the whole comic

      • Might be a bit faster than that. I’m using quick-rising dough tonight… 😉

        • Holly

          I feel like all of these metaphors don’t account for baking time Alex. 😛

        • Tina

          Squee! Yay! Also have to agree with @disqus_5yYGRkSeuL:disqus. Since you said it was in the oven already. Could say its browning up nicely. Or something. /Not a baker

  • Syncx

    …….SATAN!!!!!!!

    • Holly

      are you calling Alex Satan or saying that Laampros is Satan?

      • Syncx

        Both :/

    • *Pffff*… I just started laughing when I saw your comment.
      It’s just so off topic from the comments below it that I wasn’t expecting it, and for some reason in my sleepy head that was hilarious xD

      • SofiaT

        The comments’ section equivalent of photobombing 😀

      • Syncx

        Just read through the whole page and that just screamed in my head 🙂

  • It is possible you might find a little something something here:

    http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-36/

  • YangYueLan

    Alex, dude, you are driving me to drink!

    tea that is…its not even caffeinated.

  • Sapfo

    New page up

  • Zeruk

    Does anyone else think that Anni is just awkwardly staring at the demons crotch? :/

    • Adam Black

      So says we all

    • vessto

      From his point on his knees… Maybe he kneels on purpose?:p

    • Syncx

      I would be :+ , he’s Either huge or Awkwardly small either way I wouldn’t know we’re els to look

      • Zeruk

        Yeah I would think it be awkward to give a naked demon high respect with his junk dingle dangling everywhere

      • Vincent

        That’s assuming there is anything there at all. Could just be a bunny’s head. o.O

    • He is probably spending just as much time trying to see some peen through those inscrutable shadows as some commenters are.

  • *huge creepy stare*
    Uuuuuuuuupdaaaaaate…!

    • Syncx

      I wonder of he’s going to sacrifice Kyle as a Virgin to laampros

  • Syncx

    ” flying by and saw a naked boy tied to a bed shooting fire from his crotch , I thought I was the only one who could do that” 😀

    • Adam Black

      awesome.

  • Alex,

    I don’t know if this was your intention but as I flip through the archives, I’ve realized that this story is really a watershed in my experiences with narratives, particularly in the sense of betrayal meta narration.

    You really expertly spun the story such that even people like myself, who initially strongly disliked Duncan, probably came to really appreciate him as a potentially strong positive counterpart for Kyle…and then you pulled the carpet out from under us…

    🙂

    I can’t really think of any other story whether classic prose or movie or tv show- nothing that comes close to such a powerful betrayal meta narrative.

    Like some sort of legendary con artist, you put forth repugnant character as a foil to a very admirable character, then greatly redeemed the repugnant character and left us with the sense that the two would ride off into the sunset or something-

    AND then pulled possibly the most badass upset I’ve ever seen in my life (thus far…though I’m not holding my breath for anyone to top what you did here because frankly I don’t think most people have the guts in that I think what made your ploy so effective is that there was a very very long period full of lulls in which Kyle and Duncan very very gradually came together and thus you were able to quiet everyone’s suspicions, allowing this table turn, so I don’t think most others would be willing to risk dragging out major plot development for so long).

    Now, I think I’ve internalized a deep seated suspicion for all meta narration now, in that I used to think, and actually did find true until this story, that there are certain meta elements that indicate whether or not what you’ve seen thus far will truly be as depicted.

    But no more…now my reader jumps at shadows and wonders, “What horrible fate might befall our characters despite their charming smile, winning personality, and lead status?”

    I more suspiciously peer at the Wizard behind the curtain and find myself hesitant to attach to anyone and anything in a story until the story is simply finished (I mean after this colossal upset, one can never feel their favorite characters are secure meta-wise).

    That said, I also wonder if you won’t pull an even more impressive rabbit from the hat in terms of crafting an incredible narrative depicting how exactly it is that a character recovers from such an awful traumat.

    Shouldn’t jinx things though so I’ll just quiet myself here.

  • HOLY CRAP! My jaw is on the floor hahahaha I commend you I have no freakin idea what is happening right now and that is NOT an easy thing to accomplish!

  • Curt Clark

    stupid sexy demon dad…