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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter Two—Page 34

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WHAT IS HAPPENING????

Very cool reader Eliza Marriott has written and recorded a song from Kyle’s perspective called “Something Else”, put it up on YouTube and I think it’s awesome. You should go check that out right now.

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So! The warehouse ‘sploded and then it rained warehouse pieces and then it looks like the moon got replaced with some big eyeball??? I have no freaking idea what’s happening here. But you’re all a lot smarter than me, so I’m sure you’ll have it all figured out in the comments in, like, 3 seconds! And then maybe there will be a page on Wednesday where it’s all clearly explained so I can know too!

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  • Hikaru Takemori

    WOW, seems cthuhlu wasn’t that far of.

    • Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn

      • Hikaru Takemori

        I hope you just complemented me on the eloquence of my comment o.O

        • Sure… it’s cheerful in just that sort of Duncan & Kyle way kissy-face way…

          His worshipers chant, “Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn” “In his house at R’lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.”

      • That’s a nasty cold, you should get that checked. 😛

        • Ha! A little Vicks, my own personal ziggurat and a few hundred undead minions and I should be good as new, but thanks!

          • Vicks is a cure-all. But some undead minions always help.

  • SofiaT

    what the????

  • What what what? What?

  • Holy sh*t, Batman!! o_o

    That about sums it up…

    • Sapfo

      Danish, was just as occupied of the new page so that you forgot to write a quick comment? o.O

      • ._. I took for for the team it seems. I was afk for the bathroom *mutters* .. stupid bladder.

        I refreshed the page, nothing, was gone for less than a minute and it’s up.

        • Sapfo

          Well, you still got it before me. (Self note: Do not do job applications viel camping. End note)

    • Indeed.

  • Sapfo

    Oh MY!

  • Tina

    *eyes widen* well now… um… who guessed… a portal to hell…?

  • SofiaT

    Colliding Trans-World Identities!! F*cking hell, this is a different world!!

    • Garg!

    • Denise Cruz

      It looks like hell! And what’s up with that freaking eye?!
      I saw Duncan in the two last panels, but no sign of Kyle… What the heck?! Where?! Huummm…

      • Kyle’s there if you look next to Duncan there’s the bed

        • Denise Cruz

          It looks like … a part of it, but I see no Kyle…

          I’ve told that they would explode that ‘house’!.

          Someone could have seen that kind of explosion even from a huge distance, isn’t true?

          I wonder who will be the first one to get right there.
          If they were keeping one eye on Kyle,(he’s an teenager, after all and full of powers, which even he didn’t know or understand very well.), they already assumed what just happened and are going there. Maybe it’s time for a fight! *.*

          • davefragments

            If you make the last panel as big as your screen, then you can see what they are standing on and both Duncan and Kyle.

          • I don’t know if the building truly exploded, maybe in whatever world they are it exploded.

          • SofiaT

            Um, it doesn’t look like they’re in Kansas anymore.

            I doubt The Young Protectors team -or anyone else from our world for that matter- will be able to reach them there, even if they knew where they are.

        • Damn… that is some sturdy bed!

          • Hikaru Takemori

            My thought exactly. What is that bed made of?

          • That thing is tough yo.

  • Ali

    WHAT THE WHAT?!

  • Whut the fuuuuuuuuzz

  • Are they in *whispers* hell?

  • Sapfo

    Is there an alternate reality? An alternate universe? Is Kyle a Key?
    Have Alex gone mad? Have I gone mad?

    • It’s that famous test where they slipped sane people into an asylum and the doctors and nurses couldn’t tell, but the real patients knew instantly… my point being… Yes and Yes… but you’re surrounded by us, so you’ll seem entirely normal to yourself.

      Oh and Adam seems quite sure about the penis monsters, so it seem like a win, win, win! 🙂

      • Sapfo

        At least I have cookies. Or are they to an illusion of my mind?

        • For cookies, I’ll join you and even wear the ugly outfits, but if they straight jacket me, I want you to put cookies in my mouth…. thank yew. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            hope you like sardine-flavored cookies with chocolate chunks.
            And do remember that right now is sardine-flavored cookies is not the stranges thing going on right now.

          • With or without a side of giant floating eyeball?

          • Sapfo

            Oh, eyeball is a garanti. That´s the one thing I am sure of…or not. I don´t really know.

  • davefragments

    Be still my beating heart…
    A giant eyeball.

    Kyle wasn’t a mutant, had no alien DNA. He didn’t use conventional magic.

    Is that an Elder God? Perhaps The Watcher who guards the gates? Or is it the Old One who sleeps in the sunken city?

  • “Hello, I’m Iris. Don’t move. My contact lens is somewhere over here.”

  • mogoskier

    UG….aaahhhh…baaa
    WHAT
    WHATWHATWHATWHATWHAT

    WHAT

  • Brian W

    Sooooo…. Looks like Annihilator is sacrificing Kyle to Sauron. Not exactly my first choice, but i’ll take it.

    • davefragments

      It’s not something as mundane as Sauron. It’s even more powerful than Sauron. Older than Sauron and not of human origin.

      • bi.bi.blackbird

        Could you be referencing “Solomon”?

      • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

        “Gozer the Traveller, he will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveller came as a large and moving Torb! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Mekatrex Supplicants they chose a new form for him… that of a Giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zulls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you.”

  • Sapfo

    That is one big Eye!

  • Nicola Cameron

    Well, that escalated quickly!

  • Mike W

    The gayz really know how to redecorate

    • Yes, this could easily have come from Restoration Hardware’s “Outdoor Entertaining” section.

      • Mike W

        Yes, but my inclination would be “less BBQ, more throw rugs”

        • Yeah…the barbecue motif is coming on a little strong.

          • Mike W

            A nice Georgia O’Keefe print hanging on the left would really complement the whole bloodshot apocalyptic Death Valley theme.

    • Tina

      I think I saw this on an episode of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. It took the family a little while to adjust but they found the giant eyeball was actually a very polite roommate

      • Mike W

        as long as it doesn’t leave lashes all over the rug

        • Tina

          Oh its good about cleaning up after itself. Even pays the rent on time! Only problem his… in the summer he does raise the room’s temperature to an unbearable heat.

          • Mike W

            It just gives queer eyes a bad name.

  • Tina

    That eye… it freaks me out man! I can’t stare at it for too long cause I feel at one point it’ll look back!

    • davefragments

      to see the Old One is to suffer.

      • Tina

        Yep well I’m not going back to sleep tonight. *goes into little panic room hugging my teddy bear*

      • Or go insane… usually one or the other.

    • Adam Black

      its watching you

  • Hikaru Takemori

    With that explosion there is no way now that no one will notice anything.

    Also, is it coincidence that the eye is where the moon used to be ?

  • Tina

    Hey now casually glancing up at the image (ignoring the eye) does it look like Kyle and Duncan (you can see them in the last panel, they’re very tiny) are on a hand. If you tilt you head slightly it looks like they’re sitting in the palm of very long slender fingers.

    • I noticed that. Creepy

      • Tina

        What if it wasn’t Kyle’s screaming that could have killed him… but rather if he said something to whoever they’re standing before could get him killed…?

        So maybe Duncan did know what the spell would do, just never experienced it before.

        • SofiaT

          I think Duncan knew exactly what this spell would do. *bites nails*

          • Tina

            He still looked incredibly shocked the last page and I guess somewhat this page (judging by his tiny body language*

          • SofiaT

            I wasn’t convinced it was shock in the previous page and I can’t really make him out clearly to judge his body language here either. It could be awe -just because you know what’s coming doesn’t mean you can’t be impressed- or simply determination.

          • Tina

            *sighs* yeah I know… *headdesk* Guess I better start building a life boat while my ship sinks

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Don’t loose hope. Even if this ship sinks a new one can be build.

          • Tina

            Yes but I liked this pairing!

          • Hikaru Takemori

            No reason to not ship them with the new ship, too. I see it this way: The ship sinking would be the metaphore for the relationship, as they had it before, not comming back or not that it is not possibile to salvage what they had before.
            Building a new ship would than be like building a new relationship between those two.
            I hope this makes sence.

          • Tina

            True… Hey if Duncan gets his ass handed to him by a giant eyeball monster it might knock him down a few pegs into humility.

          • Adam Black

            i hope the eyeball eats him

          • With what mouth? Wouldn’t it be better to wish disintegration?

          • Adam Black

            exactly.
            Thats why it would be fun to watch. Its bound to be funny

          • Dammit! I had to choke on my laughter so my dogs wouldn’t start barking at me!

            Of course the eye couldn’t yell at Duncan to stop moving around while it tried to consume him.

          • Adam Black

            we just thing thats an eye

          • Then…then…the rest of it is hidden? Or was that some form of spying no jutsu?

          • SofiaT

            Alert: look up, baby Duncan and baby Kyle are here!! @disqus_yjiINLn9PV:disqus is awesome!!

          • Just saw it! Incredible.

          • Adam Black

            maybe it opens up to reveal teeth

          • *ducking behind a very big rock* Don’t give it ideas.

            Is it still watching?

          • Adam Black

            if i cant see it anymore is that a good thing?>

          • *whispers* No. That means it’s right behind you. It always means that it’s right behind you. Unless… it’s… I would suggest you don’t look up.

          • Adam Black

            Did you know that the majority of the time your eyes send signals of blackness to your brain?

            There is a lot of time for supernatural horrors to always hide in the black. Even right in front of you, right now.

          • Don’t blink. Don’t blink. Don’t blink.

          • Slowly.

          • Adam Black

            it would be a fascinating wildlife video

          • Narrated by Sir Richard Attenborough for the BBC.

          • Adam Black

            yeah

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Probably, but what if it doesn’t stop with Duncan? As much as I would like to see some payback for what he has done, now is not the best time for it.

          • Perfect sense! You’re a poet.

          • SofiaT

            Perfect sense.

            Hey, I got a lieutenant commander spot open on HSS Redilator. If you want it, it’s yours.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            I don’t mind as long as you don’t mind me climbing through… oh whats-it-called… the things with the sails on it? my nautic jargon is kinda rusty. Anyway, if you don’t mind that I’m up for it.

          • Rigging? The crow’s-nest? The mast?

          • Hikaru Takemori

            I take all three of them although I ment the rigging.

            Thanks.

          • You’re welcome!

          • SofiaT

            Don’t mind at all. Welcome on board Lieutenant.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Yay!!

          • SofiaT

            Why losing hope? This looks awesome!! 😀

          • Tina

            Ship as Redillator ship. I… think their relationship is toast now

          • SofiaT

            No more than it was before *shrugs*.

            I’m here for the ride and still on the boat!

          • Tina

            Yeeeah but before it could be redeemed somehow… opening a portal into hell is a lot harder to come back from. I guess the only thing worse would be if Duncan slay kittens in front of Kyle.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Don’t be hasty. We still don’t know what the heck is going on. I fear this will continue for a few weeks longer.

          • Tina

            Same here. My poor heart can’t take much more of this!

          • Adam Black

            and which Master did you want the most?

        • davefragments

          Duncan didn’t want Kyle to address or comment about the eyeball because he might say the wrong thing. Duncan knew what was going to appear or happen.

          • Tina

            i can imagine Duncan defending Kyle if this… thing… tried attacking him

          • Hikaru Takemori

            I can’t imagen Duncan succeeding, even if he tried.

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            I can imagine Duncan hauling hind quarters away as fast as he can without a backwards glance at Kyle.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Only if this really is unexpected and even then I’m not sure about it. I think after possibly planing this for six years he must have been fairly sure he could take what is comeing before doing it. Anything else would not make much sense.

        • Oh I’m certain this.

          • Tina

            *grits teeth* oh Alex… why are you pushing me away from Duncan. Each page gets harder and harder to defend him

          • I can’t even think straight. But… but… this is … I guess this is what happens when one rubs the thingy three times.

            Hold on to the life jacket and blow the whistle.

          • Tina

            Welp, glad I don’t have a thingy so I don’t have to worry about this problem.

            COME ON STAY WITH ME REDILLATOR! *clings to the pairing’s frozen hands*

          • I know!

          • SofiaT

            Why is this page worse for the ship that the previous ones??

          • It’s not for me. I’m just staring at it going: WHAT?

            I was agreeing about not having a thingy to rub so I didn’t…right And offering encouragement to Tina. She was starting to drift away.

          • SofiaT

            cast her a lifejacket, I know you have some stashed somewhere 😛

          • I thought she had one. That’s the whistle blowing.

    • Hikaru Takemori

      Looks like it, doesn’t it? But I think they stand on rock behind that creepy hand looking thing.

      • davefragments

        expand the page and look at that panel. It’s stunning to see all the detail.

  • YG_Frenchie

    I spy with my little eye: a mini Duncan in panel three. But where’s cute mini Kyle? I’m zooming in as far as I can on my iPhone.

    • Acerolo

      There is no Kyle, only Zuul!

      • Denise Cruz

        Agreed! I also couldn’t see him anywhere!

        • Hikaru Takemori

          I did. Zoomed in on panel 3 you can see something skin colored on the bed.

      • LOL

  • Acerolo

    Well thats…special…

    What a twist!

  • Sapfo

    Full moon, lost innocence and virginity, Duncan’s enchantment and my mind is blown away!
    I have no idea what is going on… I think I need more then three seconds for this to sink in and to be able to analyze it.

    • Feverfew_M

      Alas, not a space pirate either, I’m afraid… 😉

    • Yep, that was just Alex waving shiny ninja’s with his left hand while his right hand was all busy doing… (sorry, that came out wrong… wait sorry that… erm… ‘came’ out wrong too). I’ll just say smart Alex used distraction and then quit while I’m confused. 🙂

    • Definitely not a ninja robot.

      Definitely wrong mythos for ninja robots.

      No, I do not want a poster of *that*. I’d have nightmares.

  • SofiaT

    Ok, new theory. What if Kyle isn’t from the TYP universe? Maybe he originates from this world and somehow ended up in TYP universe, hence why no parents.

    So could it be, that Duncan realised that, and used Kyle as a key to enter this universe because -somehow- it plays a big part in the Crisis of Trans-World Identities?

    • Tina

      But didn’t the PP confirm he wasn’t of alien origin?

    • Acerolo

      Well if that last panel is somewhere in our universe, remind me not to set up a vacation home there.

    • mogoskier

      I’m just imaging the next scene going like this.
      Giant eye: Who has come to my hom…..Kyle
      (dose something to break the spell)
      Kyle sitting up: Hey Mom

  • What you did in panel 2 is what happened to my head when I saw panel 4. I have no idea what’s going on. Here I am, focusing on my Humanities class, and then BAM! Sky eyeballs.

    … Skyeballs… *Snort* XD

  • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

    I am Vinz Clortho. Are you the Gatekeeper?

    • davefragments

      This is no Gatekeeper. This is something from the time before, something that predates magic itself.

      • starangeldragon .

        yea im the gatekeeper r u the one screwed up my boy

  • I wonder if Duncan was expecting quuuite this much of.. what ever THIS is.

    It’s not every day you fiddle with magic and summonings in this scale.

    And people were worried about the building burning down. This one is gonna be even harder to explain, but what a way to move to another dimention (I asume it is).

    So Duncan said that Kyle not being able to speak might be what will save him. Doesn’t that mean that Duncan might be in great risk, based on what he say and does next?
    He better not screw what ever this is up and leave Kyle trapped there.

    ‘Something is about to come out of Kyle’, I said on previous page, expecting Kyle to be a key or a ‘vessel’ for something..
    I didn’t quite expect this O_O

    • Tina

      I don’t think ANYONE did. Granted I didn’t read all 1,500 comments, but most of them were theorising penis monsters.

      • Acerolo

        Dunno, it’s still early in this new dimension. We may yet see a penis monster or two…

  • Adam Black

    Did the moon get replaced with an eyeball,

    ( or was it just offscreen to the right ) ?

    • davefragments

      I don’t think they’re in Kansas anymore Toto…
      Think alternate universe…

      • Adam Black

        So like what?
        Mississippi?

    • Maybe it’s a world within a world and it was there all along.

      • Adam Black

        and all the characters have been in purgatory and have to get back to the island.
        It finally makes sense,

    • Denise Cruz

      Man! That’s creepy or what?! Yiuk!

      • Adam Black

        Its monsters Inc crossover

    • Loving dat eyeball… What were you saying about punching through to other dimensions again? 🙂

      • Adam Black

        Stay tasty

  • THIS PAGE IS AMAZING.
    Adam and Veronica have done an awesome job with this page, my breath was taken away.

    • davefragments

      YES !!! Spectacular art and coloring.

      • I agree! They really did a great job with this. Everything I could have hoped for and more. 🙂

  • Applauds Alex for taking this to a level that’s completely screwing with our heads.. *slow clapping* You just won the internet for wicked twists.

    You’re enjoying watching us all stunned right now, aren’t you? You and your ninja warriors.

    Giant robots, my ass. Giant creepy eye it is 😉

    • Screw with our heads is right.

    • Tina

      I can see Alex sitting in a dark room sitting on a throne of torn out hearts of his readership laughing maniacally as we all desperately try to grapple with his master plot and come out stunned every time

    • Denise Cruz

      I wonder if he expects what we will say so he can make us freak out doing things completely different from what we were waiting for…lol (I’m kidding, of course! But it almost makes sense! lol)

    • So agree… all expectation wildly exceeded.

    • Your reactions are a lot of fun. 🙂

  • And… we are transported to Middle Earth. I have no idea what’s coming next, but I am soooo hooked.

    • SofiaT

      Looks more like something from Wheel of Time. I have a feeling this is the prison the Dark One was being held.

      • Adam Black

        I have a theory that “The Dark One” is really our God.
        Eventually he breaks out for good, smashes the wheel and sets up linear time.

    • Glad to hear it. 🙂

  • ཟློད་

    The geography of the two places is nothing alike. I think the spell transported them to hell.
    Anybody see the old movie “X, the Man with X-Ray Eyes”? At the end, he rants about how, when he stared into infinite space, he could see something staring back at him.
    Well, at least that thing is going to have poor depth perception…

    • Adam Black

      not so sure about that.

      the ‘camara’ panned back to give a panaramic view. The cliff went tnru a fiery explosion , and the roots are exposed

  • ཟློད་

    So, how common is devil-worship among homosexuals? My Sunday school would like to know.

    • And now a reading from the Gospel according to Jack Chick.

      • ཟློད་

        HAR HAR!

      • ཟློད་

        Correction: HAW HAW! (I’m forgetting my Chick!)

  • silibub

    Shit just got Lovecraftian! In hindsight, I should have considered the possibility that the spell was meant to transport them, given Sircea’s casual creation of physics-defying gateways — maybe this kind of thing is her particular specialty.

    So…Kyle has some quality that let him be the bridge to this place? I can’t even theorize right now, I need some time to wrap my brain around this!

    • davefragments

      Sircea said that “such a thing is at least possible” to paraphrase

      • silibub

        Yeah, I wonder what she was referring to specifically! My mind is thoroughly boggled.

        • davefragments

          Opening the portal to another dimension was what she referred to back in the early part of the story.
          (I say that in hindsight). I didn’t see this coming.

          • silibub

            Most likely! And I would never have guessed things would go this direction — all my theories involved a summoning, not alternate dimensions or what-have-you! I reaaally hope Duncan has an escape route established, otherwise this could get even more dangerous than it already looks…

          • SofiaT

            I think Duncan is the kind of man who has a plan B for his plan B.

          • silibub

            I think you’re spot-on, and I’m grateful for that. Although it would be interesting if things went awry and Kyle wound up having to save Duncan and get both of them out of there…hmm.

          • Actually with thinking this was a summoning, I anticipated Kyle having to save Duncan. I’m not changing that view just because Duncan sent them to the other instead of bringing the other to them.

  • Klaus

    This looks like Hell is often shown in comix. The eye is certainly not Sauron. The Eye was a symbol of Sauron, seen in dreams and visions, not his physical form. My impression is that this scene is very real.

  • TwilightDreamer

    O.O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Ok…I was completely expecting the warehouse to be destroyed….but there is no way I saw THIS coming!!
    I know he said Kyle would be physically fine after it was over, but honestly it looks like he wants to sacrifice him right now….very scared for the young protector 🙁
    The detail of each panel, particularly the last…is so brilliant!! love it!!
    So happy this was released before I had to run off to work! Thanks!! XD

    • You’re very welcome. 🙂 And I agree—I love the detail that Adam and Vero put into this. 🙂

  • DiDi

    Oh… fudgemonkeys.

    • LOL. Yup

    • Saikkusukka

      You read my mind, good sir.

  • WarGoddess

    my good gourd…I don’t even… what…how…*holds onto stuffed animal Spiderman for comfort* find happy place, find happy place, find happy place!! Well, it’s official. Their relationship is very explosive, and almost too hot to handle. It should come with a warning label. XD

    • I’m glad you said stuffed spiderman. Teddy bears are evil.

      • SofiaT

        I got a stuffed Stitch.

        Edit: my penchant for villains who turn out to need some good luuuuuving to come over to the Good Side is obvious I think.

        • That… *hides behind couch*

          • SofiaT

            What? *innocent eyes*

          • Eeek. Stuffed creatures kinda freak me out.

          • SofiaT

            You’re only ok with stuffed spidermans? 😛

          • I was just glad it wasn’t a teddy bear.

        • WarGoddess

          OMG I want a stuffed Stitch!!!! He is so freaking adorable!!!! XD

      • WarGoddess

        Well, I don’t think all teddy bears are evil. When I was a kid, there was a fire that burned up my apartment, and the red cross gave me a teddy bear that had a little bow around its neck and longish legs and arms. I named ‘her’ Cocoa and carried her everywhere for the next few months. She helped me with some hard times. 😀

        • Dammit! You’re right, I can’t say Cocoa was evil.

  • But what if Kyle was say the son of the devil or a god of some sort like Hades? Sircea said there was no alien dna or conventional magic or a mutant. But that doesn’t rule out being part god. Of which he could then be used to transport to another dimension

    • davefragments

      Perhaps the spell only works on pure humans with special powers.
      Perhaps the Eyeball thing will not tolerate aliens or mutant DNA.
      Perhaps one must be pure and VIRGINAL to open the portal

      • That’s a possibility too. But how does a pure human come by special powers unless there is something else there.

        • davefragments

          Why did the Aztecs commit human sacrifice?

          I don’t know yet. It’s too late at night to guess. I drove 30 miles in bumper-to-bumper traffic today. My brain is fried.

          • Klaus

            To feed the sun.

      • SofiaT

        Kyle isn’t exactly virginal anymore though. Duncan made sure of that.

        Unless you define virginity like those girl who do it all but one and claim to still be virgins.

        • davefragments

          They didn’t have sex. This really was Kyle’s second orgasm. His first one burnt down his house. ANd Kyle played the shy virgin with Duncan with all those endless reassurances…

          • SofiaT

            Sex isn’t just about penetration. Kyle just orgasmed while having sex with another man. I think that no longer qualifies him for “virgin sacrifice”.

          • Klaus

            The virginity, not the virgin, got sacrificed.

          • davefragments

            go back and look at the panel. It is when Kyle lets himself go and starts to orgasm that Duncan invokes the spell.

          • SofiaT

            I’ve loooked at that panel several times, no need to go back again.

            I still don’t see your point.

            Why not agree to disagree here?

          • ཟློད་

            But Satan may have a more reductionist, patriarchal view.

          • SofiaT

            As Socrates said, the truth is one. Humans tend to break it down and only see pieces of it, but when looking for the universal truth, there’s only ever one.

            So it doesn’t matter what we think constitutes virginity as long as the powers that be in this world (whatever and wherever that place is!) are satisfied 🙂

          • LOL

          • Klaus

            What is sex? The purity test defines sex as “genetical genetical contact leading to orgasm”. Even by this definition, which I think much too narrow, they did have sex.

          • And here’s where definitions of sex can be debated over and over again. In my definition they DID have sex, there was just no penetration.
            It was humping/frotting and a lot of kissing and intimate contact until release and orgasm happened. For me that’s sex, just as if a lesbian couple had sex.

            (Edit: true, Duncan didn’t get ‘off’ but I still got with sex happening)

      • ཟློད་

        If a virgin were needed, why would Duncan be so intent on frotting with Kyle before the ritual? Wouldn’t that either ruin it, or raise difficult issues about the meaning of virginity?

        • davefragments

          He needed the innocence and the first orgasm.

          • No, he needed complete trust. Sexual release was ‘just’ a means to fastest way to getting it.

          • Klaus

            Maybe he needed both.

          • davefragments

            I see your point. Kyle is the key to making the spell work regardless of which characteristic it is — sex or trust or virginity.

  • Feverfew_M

    Apart from “OMG,wtf did just happen???” can I just say that this is a very beautiful page — in a really strange and creepy way…

    • I think so too. Adam and Vero really outdid themselves here. 🙂

  • da fuq??

    alex, you’re really “showing me something,” here!

  • RBK

    So, does this page imply that Duncan really was interested in the . . . the . . . um, the transdimensional . . . thingy happening between the heroes and villains in space? I’m not sure, but I’m equally sure that we’re going to find out!

    • RBK

      And by “imply” I mean: this is a plot!

  • Well.. my theory about Kyle being unique and maybe the only one of him despite the transworld thing seems very plausible right now.

    I’ve been waiting to see how the transworld issues would affect this comic, along with what Duncan’s ‘I only have interest in (ruling?) this planet’ would mean, but things have progressed beyond any ideas I had.
    Right now I’m gonna wait to theorize too much about current events until I see where Duncan is taking this. I’m not even sure if this even has something to do with the transworld crisis thing, but still leaning on that.

    My main theories/ideas can still be implemented in this, but I’m lacking some very big pieces of the puzzle. I need more to finish the frame of the puzzle (I just love talking metaphors right now *lol)

    • silibub

      Right, the frustrating thing about trying to speculate at this point is that we don’t know very much about the world of this comic. I had a notion that Duncan was planning to make some kind of world-dominating move while most of the other heroes and villains were focused on this…transworld identity crisis, but without knowing what that even means it’s pretty difficult to guess what Duncan’s doing.

      Seriously, I’ve never been so relieved that we’re getting a bonus page because I want answers right now!!

      • I knoow. The thought of a whole week between pages right now scares me.

    • You don’t think D. is stranding Kyle somewhere do you?

      • Not on purpose.
        I’m not sure how much control he’ll actually have over this. One thing is THINKING you have control, another factor is not knowing the reactions of other ‘beings’ here.

        • Thank you. I’m already nursing a serious Duncan hate-on (even with dat ass) and thinking of D. dumping little Kyle al alone on planet eyeball was making me cranky. 🙂

  • ཟློད་

    Unfortunately, no more magic words to analyze linguistically. Hopefully the eye will say something next Wednesday, and then we may perhaps be able to reconstruct its language. So far we have two texts:
    “Laampros Ba Sukoth Ba Suggoroth”
    “Katorah Mashaa Bokkoroch Ba Laampros”
    Assuming the lexemes to be basically phonetic (i.e., not transliterating silent letters or something from some unknown script), that gives us
    Initial consonants: l,s,k, b,m
    Medial consonants kk, gg, r, sh, and consonant cluster mpr
    Final consonants s, th, h, ch
    Vowels a, aa, u, o
    No initial vowels
    Final vowels a, aa
    “Words” of one to three syllables, repeated elements suggest an isolating grammar. “Ba” is the most interesting word there; I speculate that it may be a particle of some kind
    Some doubled letters (kk, gg, aa), not sure if this reflects separate syllables or different phonemes from k, g, a
    Distinction between s and sh (assume English “sh”, but may represent aspirated s), h and ch (and medial kk)
    Although a few of the lexemes are suggestive of Greek or Hebrew, or Lovecraftean magic syllables, there are few examples of would English speakers would regard as illegal phonemes, and the exceptions (such as the doubled vowel aa) may have been added purely for style.

    • Missy_Z

      I think I speak for all the languaphiles in the room when I say “Ooh baby keep dissecting those words!”

  • Hikaru Takemori

    I really like this page. To me it ends two of my favorite ‘least favorite’ thoeries: Youth and power stealing (from Kyle. Duncan can always try and get those things from Evil Eye here for all I care. I still would find it unplausible though). I seriously wanted to thottle people sometimes for bringing it up. Now all is well in my universe 😉 .

    • SofiaT

      I know right? And no attempts to kill Kyle either (which would be a deal breaker for me).

      Did he bring him in the middle of a potentially very dangerous situation? Hell yeah (maybe that hell is more literal than metaphorical). But I trust Duncan knows his shit and won’t let anything happen to our little hero.

      • silibub

        I’m still so bubbly over the lack of a murder plot, I can’t even tell you!

        • SofiaT

          LOL. I never thought Duncan ever intended to kill Kyle. Although some commenters did worry me there for a second.

          • silibub

            And I think I was one of them, haha! That was my absolute worst-case scenario, and in the depressed funk those initial betrayal pages got me into anything seemed at least possible. I’ve never been so pleased to be wrong!

          • Yeah us gay boys got a bit angsty… sorry ’bout that. Couldn’t help it.

    • silibub

      I was hoping the youth-stealing thing was a red herring, too – it was too heavily implied and Alex is usually a lot subtler than that.

    • Other than a giant evil looking eyeball, yes, this is definitely… Umm… Definitely… What a twist! But a welcome one indeed.

  • LL

    While we’ve been waxing poetic over the last few pages, I think the general feeling right now is: Oh, what the F@#*!

    • Maria White

      My words were something out of the AVGN Nerd’s mouth.
      Is Kyle in there right now, or did both of them get transported? Oh gods, Anni just used Kyle like a magic battery! Using him like double A’s in a old game boy, and god I’m old.
      Right now I am panicking, but it’s okay, right? I mean there is only so much sanity loss when Cthulhu eats your face right?

      • LL

        If anyone here didn’t put double As in their Game Boy, they are too young for this sorta thing! haha
        Or is Kyle like some sort of portal, neither here nor there? :O

        • Maria White

          Now I just remember Teen Titans. Man, I miss that show.

          • LL

            Oh my gosh that is exactly what came to my mind too, haha

  • Katie Chambers

    T… The hell!? 0.o What did I just see before going to bed?

  • SofiaT

    Hm… What if they’re not there physically though? What if this is just another plane of existence?

    I remember Duncan’s words, telling Kyle that he will always be safe with him, even if they’re not physically together and this place here makes me wonder again what he meant by that…

    • silibub

      Now that’s interesting — I thought he meant that he’d be watching out for Kyle in general, not just on while they were on dates, but this would certainly add a whole other layer of meaning to his words.

    • I was wondering if the warehouse didn’t actually go slpodey in the one world, but sort did in the other. If that makes sense

      • Klaus

        In the second frame the warehouse is exploding, with the same mountains in the background as in the first frme.

        • I was thinking that it exploded into the new world. Like a world on top of a world, but the other place was still intact.

      • Hikaru Takemori

        It makes sense but I disagree or would like to modify: If it did explode in ‘wherever they are’, I belive that it started before they were there and continued to explode here. So the warehouse, if not destroyed, is at least damaged.

        • That’s always possible. So many possibles.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            How I would like to get a hold of Duncan and get him to spill what is happening and all his plans. But alas! I don’t have such powers and have to wait *sniff*.

          • And it’s believed that Alex has the future pages time locked so if anyone got their hands on a TARDIS it would be impossible to cheat that way.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Not all is lost, even if there is time locked. Gallifrey would have broken free of the time lock they where in if not stopped.

          • So there’s a way to unlock a time lock?

          • Hikaru Takemori

            I think there are ways to unlock a time lock, though the way Galifrey did it is not something we can replicate.

          • No I suppose not. Phooey.

    • Hikaru Takemori

      I kinda hope that it means, amoung other things, that Duncan will not stop with makeing sure that Kyle is safe with him after this is over, regardles of the nature of the relationship they have afterwards.
      Your comment also made me think that Duncan might have made sure Kyle would be safe with him even before they met.

      • SofiaT

        *nods* There could be many possible interpretations there, and I myself tend to lean towards your first one -that Duncan may be using Kyle now, but he will make sure he’s safe through it all, and after he’s achieved his goals.

        But this comic gets more and more interesting as time (and pages) go by, it wouldn’t surpise me if there are many hidden meanings in these and other words. We won’t know till the end, will we?

        • Hikaru Takemori

          Not if we don’t get a hold of Alex notes and scripts for the rest of the comic, no. Anyone feel like planing a heist?

          • SofiaT

            “Fanboys” style? I’m in! 😀

            Where will we start the roadtrip?

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Roadtrip? Like getting a bus (or ten) and travle across the world to pickup every fanboy and girl to plan the heist? I’m not sure where to start. We could make a poll.

  • Sapfo

    Hope it is never to late for a camping song.

    “The young protector is buzzing in my skull.
    Will it let me be? I cannot tell.

    There´s so many thing I cannot grasp
    When I think I´ve got it and then at last.

    Through my fingers it does slip
    Like a Kyle in Duncans betrayal grip.

    Somethings here I´m not really getting.
    Even if I do want some heave petting.

    Like the memory of pages long since past
    This eye came in a instant flash

    What does it mean? What does it mean?”

    Thank you Alex and friends for this twist. I have no idea where you are taking us!

    Music: “Jack’s Obsession”

    • You’re very welcome. Thank you for the cool song! Fun! 🙂

  • Michael

    oh Duncan…what have you done?

  • I applauded Alex for making this amazing twist but the more I look at the page, the more I also need to applaud Adam and Vero for the art.

    Adam drawing all these details on the explosion and fire-world, and Vero for coloring it. It must have taken a while to first draw the lines to make this into something recognizable – and then for Vero to add the touch of color to make it ‘come to life’.

    I think this is my favorite page yet, artisticly, in the comic.
    Very well done, and thank you for your hard work <3

    • Agreed! They did an amazing job with this page! 🙂

  • ཟློད་

    I keep envisioning Kyle as Beavis, and Duncan as Butthead.
    “Come to Butthead,” says Butthead, striking a sexy pose on the bed, with a rose in his mouth. “Let’s put our thingies together, or something.”
    And then, many “heh hehs” and “huh huhs” later, comes the ecstatic cry of “Fire! Fire is our Friend!” And then, “Are you threatening me?! I am CORNHOLIO!”

  • Saikkusukka

    ….All words coming to my mind are finnish swearwords. I shall go for them, if you’ll excuse me.

    Miiiitä helvettiä tapahtuu? o_o

    • ཟློད་

      “Helvetti” is right!

      • Saikkusukka

        And possibly even literally, yes!

  • ཟློད་

    Kyle is the son of Hot-Stuff, the Little Devil!

    • SofiaT

      Daaaaaaad, I’m hooooooome!

  • “Lookin’ for some hot stuff, baby, this evenin’.”

    • Josephine

      I swear, all the fight scenes could be set to 70s/80s music or just Disco. Hot Stuff can be the show down between Anni and Kyle. Yeah. I’ll gif it when it comes.

      • Hehee, my thought was that the eyeball was looking for some hot stuff! Get it? ‘Cause they’re in some kind of fiery hellscape! And it’s looking! *snorts nerdily*
        Anyway, I think the show down should be “Last Dance.”

        • Josephine

          You know, I can see it. Provided they use a decent amount of projectile attacks.

        • Josephine

          You know, I needed a moment, but it could really work.

  • SofiaT

    More than 200 comments in just one hour. You have us running amok here Mr. Woolfson, haven’t you?

    • ToxicIce

      Probably what he was going for the whole time!… Or maybe not, and he’s just a damn good storyteller…

      • SofiaT

        Or both!!

        He certainly wouldn’t have us all at the edge of our seats, biting our nails and pulling our hair out if he wasn’t a damn good storyteller!

        Edit: And the art! What both Adam and Veronica have done here is… I have no words.
        Respect.

        • ToxicIce

          You know… You might be right there!
          On a completely unrelated note, my thighs have gotten really strong from sitting on air and I’ve apparently grown bald, anyone else have the same problem? It started when I began reading this story.

  • Hikaru Takemori

    With all the songs in the comments I feel that the HMS Redilator needs a song, too. Somehow I find this one fitting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re32xnyYP3A

  • Klaus

    Did the spell transport the warehouse to another would? Or did it transform our own?

  • Megan Staples

    Damn. I hd a feeling this might happen…

    • Klaus

      Don’t you just hate it when this happens?

      • Megan Staples

        Yes. I knew it was a containment/summoning circle, even if it’s not any configuration I’ve ever seen. Now we wait and see just what the reason for it is. Duncan did promise no physical harm, but that’s not covering much. There’s also his mental health, his broken heart and the health of his power. I imagine it would very greatly harm Kyle if his power was taken from him.
        Darn you, Alex! You make me feel so worried for fictional people!

  • It’s always possible that the location of the warehouse had some sort of significance other than just being in the middle of absolutely nowhere.

    • SofiaT

      You mean like in His Dark Materials trilogy, where some of the parallel worlds have parts that “match” so it’s easier to cross from one world to the other? Interesting thought…

      • Not familiar with the trilogy. But maybe. Or I was thinking some sort of magical leylines.

        • Klaus

          If you haven’t read it, you are in for a real treat. Higly recommended.

          • SofiaT

            *nods furiously*

          • I will add it to my wish list. Thanks!

          • Josephine

            Do, do, do.

    • Holly

      Tops of mountains do text to have leylines. So it makes sense

  • As Alex says about Wednesday… “Hope to see you there!”

    Funny funny man. Try and keep me away. I must say, to be truly surprised and excited in art of any type in this day of derivative and safe art is a rare and precious thing indeed. I’m with Alex as he says, “I have no freaking idea what’s happening here.” Well I know HE lies, but I don’t care!

    He surprised and delighted me. What a present Alex, Vero, Adam. I can’t speculate until I have some sleep and restoration, but what colossal fun. There could not have been a better present to jump into the weekend with.

    Note: Duncan’s insurance rates are going to go through the roof. *fist pumps* Yeah! LOL.

    Thank you again Team-Alex. What a delight!

    Best,
    ChrisD

    • Hikaru Takemori

      Sometimes I wonder if Alex has two personalities: One to write the comic and the other is specialy grown to give us those comments.
      On the subject of insurance: I don’t think Duncan needs insurance on this building. He probably has enough money to not need to care about it. Besides, would you want to have insurence on a building you may store stolen or illegal stuff in?

      • I know… Duncan being uninsurable just made me laugh. You, however, are totally correct.

      • Or one you plan to take to some hell dimension?

    • Elin Gregory

      Hello Chris 🙂

      • HELLO Elin,

        I’m so glad to see a fellow Lit lover here enjoying Alex’s amazing work. I’m sorry I missed you before, but this is a lovely smart group of fans and I’m really enjoying the smart discussion as well as Alex & Team’s amazing art. 🙂

        Best,
        ChrisD

    • I’m glad you’re finding the new update to be fun and a delight, Chris. Very glad you’re with us on this journey! 🙂

  • Now where’s that time machine when you need it? I need it to be wednesday already. I need The Doctor and his Tardis!

    The next 4 days are gonna feel like they’re dragging along.

    • Holly

      Watching us Watching it in a horrible continuous cycle. *shudders*

  • Emiko

    Oh my god… Kyle’s orgasm destroyed the universe.

    • Klaus

      First time: his family’s house. Second time; the universe. Third time: ???

      • strangeangel24601

        Spoiler alert: Third time is the “Big Bang” that creates our universe.

      • Alan Michael Williams

        Third time: time.

    • I guess he was right to cut back on the self-abuse.

      “Universe? … handjob? … universe? … handjob?… universe” … ahhh, who the hell who am I kidding? I have GOT to toss one off before work. *Hollers downstairs* Has anyone seen the asbestos rag that was under my bed?”

  • There are inhalers for that.

  • Unless unpredictable ‘eldritch horror’ just happens to be totally in the mood for an aging super villain snack. Yummmmmm…

  • Thank you very much!

  • streetwalkersan

    *sigh* Anni, didn’t you know there were easier ways to blow up a warehouse than seducing a male virgin superhero, taking him to bed, getting him all worked up, and then magically enhancing his orgasm to manipulate his superpower to create an explosion? A true villain should be able to get his hands on some explosives, right? Much simpler, really.

    Seriously though, the more I look at that final panel, the more convinced I am that the magic bumbo jumbo opened some gateway to another dimention or something. How is Kyle getting out of this one? :[]

    • Denise Cruz

      Duncan seems to be an completely unusual villain. Even in this issue. Doesn’t he?! XD
      Maybe that’s why we ended up loving him so much! (I do, at least! I really do!)

  • Good stuff but just another riff on the fallen angel left behind to torture mankind…. yet good stuff.

  • Holly

    I missed the camping because I just had the craziest day, but obviously things are LOOKING much crazier for Kyle and Duncan.

    • Josephine

      YOU LUCKY DUCK.

  • And remember, people, this is only chapter two of five. A very long chapter 2, according to Word of God.

    • Denise Cruz

      Best thing ever: Very long chapters! I love it so much! ^v^

    • There’s certainly a fair bit more to this chapter, but I’m not sure I’d say this was the long one. 🙂 Chapter 3 however…

  • Jeldenil

    Am I the only one who thinks they just landed in Toontown, or were there all along?

  • illanm

    …wow.

  • strangeangel24601

    GOOD GOOGALY MOOGALY.

  • So a little mention, a 2nd and final time.

    If you’re a fan of Khaos Komix .. there’s a kickstarter project going for the books, and there’s a couple days left to get your hands in one of the pledge options.
    Awesome stretchgoals like new mini comics (will be up on the site from november) and all the extra stories given as pdf’s have already been reached. Next goal it reaching the point where we get Kelly’s story 😀

    Familiar with the comic or not, check it out: http://www.kickstarter.com/pro
    If the comic is new to you, you should give the whole thing a read. It’s an awesome 500+ pages, finished GLBTQ comic.

    • wineflask

      something went wrong with your link. I’ll try a shortened url: http://kck.st/17Corpj

    • vessto

      Link doesn’t work, it is cut.:(

      • SofiaT

        Just google Kickstarter KHAOS comics and you’ll find it.

        Good stuff, really good stuff.

        • vessto

          I already found it and other good GLBT comics along with it.:)

      • Fixed link 🙂

  • Ellen Harman

    Toto I don’t think we’re in “Kansas” anymore. Between panel 1 and panel 3 we changed planets. In panels 1 and 2 the warehouse was on a bluff in panels 3 and 4 the entire ground topography changed. All thats left of the warehouse is 2 posts. If you notice in panel 4, that is now way back in the background with a pin speck Anni standing there.

    Should we be calling Duncan Anni? Doesn’t that make anyone else think of little Vader from Star Wars episode one, where Padme refered to Anikin as little Anni? That’s my first thought.

    • I almost always go with Duncan. He just seems like a Duncan to me. Hadn’t thought of Anikin, but makes sense.

  • Alaras

    YAY! Eldritch abominations! I WANNA SEE A SHUGGOTH!

  • Thomas David Hamilton

    well shit

  • Jamie Dutton

    Holy Crap!! I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Alex went Lovecraftian on us after seeing Sircea and her tentacles!!
    But, I certainly wasn’t expecting…this?! I don’t even- what?
    Um I have no idea what is going on or what I’m supposed to say or think about it….
    If one of the next pages has Annihilator and a naked Kyle flying off on a silver pegasus, I don’t think I would be surprised. Laughing, whilst rolling around on the floor, yes. But, surprised no.

    • “Annihilator and a naked Kyle flying off on a silver pegasus,”

      Well aren’t you the best? What a great image to start the weekend with. LOL. Thank you.

      • Jamie Dutton

        You’re welcome! 😀

  • Elin Gregory

    I just adore the enormous eyeball. 🙂

  • Jay Dragonmite

    Sweet cinnamon Jesus…

  • Hours

    Oh, hey there, giant crazy eyeball.

    • Klaus

      Who says it is crazy?

      • Feverfew_M

        You’re right. Looks like it might be quite reasonable — for a giant floating eyeball. ;D

      • EXACTLY! As a card carrying member of SFTSOSGE (Society For The Support Of Squishy Giant Eyeballs) I’d like to register a complaint about Giant Eyeball hate speech.

      • Hours

        Oh, it’s crazy. It didn’t even bring its Visine, and everyone knows the hellmouth is super dry this time of year.

  • gentlechaos

    Aaaah I get it. Sauron is looking for his Ring of Fire…

    • See, silly Duncan. He had Kyle’s perfectly good ‘ring of fire’ right there with him in bed, and he threw it all away for a giant eyeball. I mean whass up with dat? Just doesn’t seem like the smartest trade to me at all.

  • Mumin

    Bloody Norah. This is all getting a bit surreal!

  • Becky

    So… Kyle is some kind of fire-demon, with the power to blast gateways into Hell??

  • SofiaT

    It was and still is about how Kyle becomes the greatest champion the world has ever seen. Judging from this page, he may be the greatest champinon most universes/planes of existence have ever seen…

    It keeps getting better and better.

  • Adam Black

    “I just wanted a pepsi”

  • Adam Black

    “I’m not even supposed to be here”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWJpZad8zU8

  • Sapfo

    After some time of thinking my brain have now started to work. Right now, all thoughts of Duncan as small as he is on the page (well maybe not). Now other ideas comes forward, such as: where are we?

    Some theories about this. If TYP is set in our world, then what is this place? Duncan has carried out a ritual with Kyle being a catalyst, a key perhaps?
    What is it about Kyle that makes Duncan and PP go after him and not someone else?

    Another question: is this Earth or is this another dimension? Has Duncan enchantment taken them somewhere or have the spell turned the area into this burning inferno? And if this is Earth being turned into fire, then is it only the ex-forest around them that have been turned, or is it the entire planet?

    I am leaning towards this being another dimension. And if it is so, then what is Duncan looking for? And is Kyle still important to his and PP planes?

    Well I am not getting much answers right now…and I do feel a bit uncomfortable…it feels like …that eye is starring at me…following my every move…everywhere I go o.O

    • Omar Cantu

      Seeing as Sircea said something about Solomon I’m guessing Kyle has something related to demons. I also lean for it being another dimension.

      • Sapfo

        Well, demon or not, that eye is frightens me. Nightmares would not scare me as much.

        • Hey, let’s try not to prejudge. Maybe its a good eyeball and will be on Kyle’s side and have sharp words for mean old Duncan…

          ——————————–

          Eyeball to Duncan: Excuuuuuse me. Are you saying you had this fine fine boy in bed and ready and willing to give it all up to you, WILLINGLY, and you betrayed him?”

          D: Ummm, well…

          EB: Do you have any ANY idea what it’s like to exist through millennia with no hands and no penis? DO YOU?

          D: Umm no, but…

          EB: Yes a BUTT. Figures! What I wouldn’t give to get my non existant hands on a butt like that and you threw the perfect opportunity away for a few extra years of life and a puny power boost… Gahhhhhhh. You humans disgust me. Cthuhlu was right, we should just eat you all.

          D: *whines* Well it seemed like a good idea at the time…

          EB: I swear I can’t stand the sight of you, but I’m not able to blink so… OH JUST PISS RIGHT OFF!

          D: Does this mean no virgin sacrifice and no eternal youth… YOU PROMISED!

          EB: FINE! Just give me a minute. You sicken me!

          *an awkward silence ensues in the hell dimension*

    • The question is will you change clothes in front of the eye or leave it in the other room with another heavy book sitting on top of your laptop for safety???

      • Sapfo

        I thinking of locking the laptop in a box and take on more clothes might be my action for now.

        • That sounds wise. The eyeball could possibly float out from the screen and follow you about the house otherwise… EWWWW… and be all peepy with you in your knickers… WHAT?

          I’m just sayin’ … Okay, look at it this way, anything is better than Adam Black’s brain spiders. Right? At least a giant eyeball can only sorta bounce off you and make you stumble like a big squeegy beach ball (unless it has laser beam eyeballs) and then you’re just f*cked… erm… ALEX!!!!!!

          • Adam Black

            My brain spiders?
            Thats the first sign of infection. The spiders vemon makes your brain think *Other people* ar ethe ones infected

          • So sorry, just referring to your expertise.

          • Adam Black

            Is that you talking or are your brain spiders trying to trip me into a false sense of security?

          • My spiders say *with a tone of righteous indignation* that they would never stoop so low. However, they forgive you your suspicions and think you should relax, sit down and put your feet up…

            Oh, and they wondered if you like a nice glass of chilled Pinot and some salty cashews while you think things over?

            *multiple sets of eight eyes blink innocently*

          • Adam Black

            you can tell them that I started keeping spiders as pets when I was 5,

            I hope they like jars….

          • Okay you blew it… no Pinot now and they’ve all gone under the bed muttering about the arachnophobic apes…

          • Adam Black

            Eventually I learned you DO have to poke holes in the top.

    • It’s possible Kyle is a key allowing Duncan into this dimension to find some object that was sent there to keep it out of the hands of someone like Duncan and PP.

      • Sapfo

        The Kyle-key theori is very near what I think also. I do however think that Kyles role is not only key, but something else also.

        • I’ve been wondering if Kyle is a key, how is he a key? Is it his fire talent? If so, where did it come from? Which leads me to the thought that it might go back to his parents. Who or what were they? I would like to see this eventually addressed. I mean, surely *just* a fire talent wouldn’t hold the appropriate umph to do this.

          • Sapfo

            Right now we don´t really know if Kyles parents are important or not. We just have to do the “wait and see”-game on that one.

            I think at Kyle’s powers, along with his trust in Duncan and Duncan’s magic spell. might throw in the sexual scene but I’m not entirely sure that sex was very important, just the quickest way for Duncan to get Kyle’s confidence. A mixture of all or some of these things are probably what made Kyle a key. If now the key theory is right.

            Oh great Eyeball, will you tell us the truth?

          • Yeah, I don’t think the sex really had anything to do with it, I think it was a cheat to gain his trust quickly. That I’m pretty certain of.
            As for the rest, it is indeed just a waiting game at this point and with so many possibilities…

            I want it to be Wednesday so very bad.

          • Sapfo

            Oh and I forgot to say this before. The trust was only needed once? Maybe?

            Well, time flies by faster then you think. Wednesday will be here soon.

          • It seems that such trust was only needed the once to bind him. Which I suppose is understandable. I mean, you really need to trust someone to allow them to tie you down. Not so much to transport you to another dimension. 😐

            Well, the one thing I will say, is where I am, I only need to wait until around 10pm Tuesday night, so… It doesn’t seem as long if I focus on that.

  • Jamie Dutton

    Ok, assuming that they’ve blasted their way into an alternate Hellscape, wouldn’t the magical reverberations be felt for quite a distance back in their world? Would Spooky or some other magic users notice it?
    Not saying that they could do much about it, but they’d notice right?
    Btw, Adam and Vero, great job on the giant eyeball there! It looks like you could poke it and it’d be all squishy and gross!

    • Oh yes agree re Adam and Very… squishy mucus is surpassingly hard to create outside of one’s nose. Great job! It’s going to be on my phone for a while for sure.

      • Did you really put that panel on your phone? 🙂

        • Yes, but only if I’m not in trouble… otherwise a mean super villain made me do it…. LOL

          • No trouble. I’m flattered you’d want to do that. 🙂

          • It’s super fun, all the people who want to know what the heck THAT is! 🙂

  • ཟློད་

    Somebody below mentioned Jack Chick–this could be like his famous Throne of Judgement scene! “Kyle died in his sins, because he didn’t pray a prayer like this….”

    • I knew he shouldn’t have read those Harry Potter books!

  • SugarPlumFairy

    Ok so in general I think responding to things with a meme pic is really annoying… However on this occasion my reaction is the EXACT same one as super surprised cat! Jaw meet floor!

  • Fakesubmite

    What the hell was that?

    • Powell

      a giant floating eyeball i thought it’s obvious 😛

      • Fakesubmite

        Oh….okay. Thank you. :}

  • MeatyStakes

    Okay, the summoning of a eldritch abomination is definitely something I wasn’t expecting at all.

    • Kalic0

      I think Kyle was sent to an eldritch abomination, I don’t think it was summoned to him (check the prior panel where Duncan is standing in the ruins sans eyeball).

      • MeatyStakes

        The important part is that I wasn’t expecting an eldritch abomination on any context.

        • Kalic0

          I really don’t think any (ok – very few) of us was expecting that. After all, that would like expecting the Spanish Inquisition anywhere but medieval Europe. But, I agree with other posters that the location of said abomination is indeed important.

  • purplefoxglove

    Alex, I love the way your mind works.

    On a side note, that is one hell of a solid bed. I wonder if it was custom-made for the Annihilator’s purposes.

    • SofiaT

      “Anti-allergenic, orthopedic matress, magick-proof, fire-proof, with 5 years warranty now for ONLY $999.99!! Delivery in 5 universes for FREE!”

      • That’s a heck of a bargain I would think. Maybe add two more 9’s and I’d believe it.

        • SofiaT

          Duncan is good at bargains. All he has to do is flex his muscles menacingly (or suggestively) and he gets the best deals!

          • There is that. Wish I was there the day he bought that mattress if that were the case.

            Unless of course PP cast a spell on it. Or the roses protected it.

      • Denise Cruz

        lol That’s a hell of a mattress! Great deal! 😀

    • Thank you, purplefoxglove. It’s a far scarily place than where Kyle and Duncan are now… 😉

      • purplefoxglove

        That sounds promising 🙂

        Btw, do you need German translators for The Young Protectors? I noticed the comic was only translated until the end of chapter 1, and I’d love to contribute.

        • That’s very cool of you to offer. And, at some point, that would be awesome. But I’ve actually gotten behind in adding some translations that readers have already submitted because of Kickstarter work, so if it’s OK, could you send me an email about this in a few weeks? I’m sure your fellow readers would really appreciate you doing that—as would I. 🙂

          • Denise Cruz

            Alex, if you need a Portuguese (Brazil) translator for ‘The Young Protectors’, I would be more than happy to contribute, too, ok?! 😉

          • purplefoxglove

            Will do 🙂

  • DarkFeanix21

    Holy. Crap. That is… unexpected, to say the least. This just went from a fun gay superhero comic to an awesome-intriguing-creepy-as-all-hell gay superhero comic. Can’t wait to see where this is headed!

    • pinglederry

      Stole the words almost directly out of my mouth. 🙂 I started reading for the supers romance and some sexy-times, but you bet your ass I’m here for the plot now.

    • Glad to hear it, DarkFeanix21 and @pinglederry:disqus!

      Yep, sexy-times and plot, like peanut butter and chocolate…

  • EYE see you….

    • Sauron… (clap) Sauroff… (clap) Sauron… (clap)…. Sau…

      “Would you stop that and go outside!”

  • Amy

    Welcome to Mordor? xD

  • Kiri

    Very very cool song! Thank-you Eliza.

  • Cydney Sabin

    Whelp. That was a “hell” of a spell. Eh? Get it? Oh, never mind…

    • WarGoddess

      I get it! You’re one “hell” of a comedian! And if you’re a Black Butler fan, you’re also one “hell” of a butler, lol! ;D

      • KiannaLeigh

        OMG, yes! LOL.

      • Cydney Sabin

        Never read Kuroshitsuji. I fail as otaku.

        • WarGoddess

          It is alright, you do not fail as an otaku just because you haven’t read it yet! It’s a new opportunity to be had! 😀

          • Cydney Sabin

            Yay! ^w^

  • Kyle 🙁

  • Amanda

    Oh, Giant Floaty Eyeball, I understand your disappointment, we’re all hoping some clothes were burnt off just as much as you.

    • Was the Eyeball a peeping tom all this time?

      • davefragments

        the mythology of the “eldtritch” gods or the “Old Ones” whichever of the various terms one uses is that they were once rulers of the universe in a time before the Lord of Creation when all was chaos and that the Lords of Creation banished them to a sterile and lonely dimension. They look and long to return to their once glorious realm.

    • Denise Cruz

      That thing keeps on creeping me out, endlessly!

    • Alex’s work is deep and nuanced… that is amazing… and yet true! *laughs*

  • HermeticallySealed

    That feeling of a double-cross? Yeah, it just much stronger.

  • Denise Cruz

    I wonder… could it be an alternative universe where Kyle would be a badass villain, maybe?!

    Sweet! I would like seeing him like that! Hot stuff! ^v^

    Now… If he’s a villain, what would Duncan be?! The same he was? A cute-sweet- good man?

    Oh, my! Alex, you have the wonderful / annoying (sometimes XD) ability to never give us any answers, but always give us even more questions… That’s unbelievable! You rock!

    • vessto

      He gives us answers disguised as questions.;)

      • Denise Cruz

        Yeah! And it makes me want to kill him, sometimes, ’cause we keep on digging for answers, even when we already got them! (The guy is an evil genious or what?! XD)

        • vessto

          He’s comics creating supervillain who loves to burn his fans in suspense.:) Of course, all this in the best meaning.:D Guess which is the first site I check in the Wednesdays and Saturdays.

    • Thank you , Denise! It’s fun to answer questions and fun to pose new ones—especially when you are post such amazing speculation!

      • Denise Cruz

        Thank you, Alex! I’m glad you liked that! ^v^

  • A2MOM

    Hey, love this comic and story though I haven’t commented here before.

    The top two panels are just beautifully rendered. The moon and mountains in particular are very detailed and just lovely. In the first panel you can literally feel the cool night air with the blue grey tones and solitude, and then panel two, just a fireball of color, action and destruction.

    I don’t know if this is hand-colored or digital but the second panel has a water-color look with the shading that is fantastic.

    Kyle is not on the bed in panel three….Is he the explosion, or the eye itself?? Poor kid, I hope he can eventually control his responses to have a normal sex life (let’s face it, we all start out that way lol 🙂 )

    • vessto

      Hm, I think he’s still there??

      • davefragments

        So do I. Blow up the page and there’s a figure in the pixels.

        • Pup Ruff

          Yeah, it’s tiny, but I see the bed. And is it bad that I think it would be hot if Kyle did become a demon? Just me? Okay.

        • vessto

          I zoomed in my browser and in 3rd and 4th panels I could see him in the pixels.

          • ScorpioladyCZ

            I can see Anni, bed and Kyle still on it if I enlarge it enought.

    • Great post. Thanks.

    • Welcome, A2MOM! Glad you decided to join us in the comments!

      And yes, I think Adam and Vero did a fantastic job with this page too. Both with the “explosive” panels but also with the gentle first panel. You sum it up well when you say that you can “literally feel the cool night air.”

      And in terms of our process, while we started with traditional penciling (and now Adam digitally pencils), Vero has always colored digitally. And I find her shading and rendering fanatastic, too. 🙂

  • Zaneta McDonald

    Poor Kyle…:(

  • Suhndog

    Insert Stereotypical Comment [Not!]:
    ‘Was it good for you?!’
    ‘Got a Cigarette?’
    ‘Did you put the Cat out?’
    “I think I left something on the Stove!’
    … [Yeowsah!]

  • Khun David

    Da da da dum!!! Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Delivery from the Mattress King!

  • Darkflame173

    Ho-lee sheeet….

  • vessto

    *sighs* When I remember how before few pages Anni hinted that “if the warehouse is burned to the ground noone be at risk”. Kyle, something should ring a bell for you that time!!!! Anni is the perfect villain, he hints about his plans as openly and sincerely that noone can image this could be a plan indeed. Like a very innocent note made during a friendly conversation.

  • Kalic0

    So, the complex in the middle of nowhere goes all “splody”, and Duncan is left standing alone in the smoldering rubble.
    Kyle is most definitely not in “Kansas” any more, but I don’t think that is Wonderland either. And since Duncan obviously did not follow him down the rabbit hole; it seems he is alone, naked and chained, while being stared at by a giant eyeball.

    • nope, duncan is still there, on the left side of the burning pillars, about the same distance as between the pillars – [ctrl+] is your friend 😉

      I really hope it’s there, not here – as in the spell teleported them to hell, and not Hell to the planets surface. I actually like this planet without that amount of Fire & Brimstone…

      • Derkins

        considering how many of our hunches we hoped weren’t true were actually true… I wouldn’t hold your breath. It looks like the fiery atmosphere exploded outward, looking at the second panel. There is nothing to suggest they were transported anywhere. The landscape looks pretty much the same, just twisted.

        • Adam Black

          moons gone

          • Derkins

            To me it looks like the moon turned into the eye. The landscape looks like it transformed into a hell-version of its’ previous self. I seem to be fairly alone in this opinion, though. 🙂

          • Adam Black

            except it panned backward, the moon ought to be in the middle of the panel

      • Kalic0

        I see what you are saying, the whole smoldering complex (including Duncan) was taken away. Somehow I missed the smoldering pillars in the last panel. But as I look more carefully at panel three, I now see the rocks that are also in panel four. So, Kyle is NOT alone. This just makes me wonder if Duncan was prepared to go along for the ride.

  • thebitterfig

    Oh, Eye see.

    • Denise Cruz

      lol Good one! XD

    • Beat you to that one :p

  • Nate

    I believe the appropriate response is:

    “OK, this is one HELL of a first time.”

  • TwoWayStar

    Real Reaction: “OH GOD. O_O”

    Dang wow not even close to expecting anywhere near this to happen! whatie what whaaat?! (So amazed!)

  • xLizardx

    ….So, it looks like they’re in hell/ a demon dimension [and a very cool depiction of said dimension at that, the eyeball is a very nice touch], so I’m thinking, hey, maybe Kyle is actually part demon? That would explain the cool fire powers, and give him even more internal conflict to explore 😀

  • Mary Kelleher

    Is… Is the bed still in tact…?

    • Niggle

      Like everything else it’s different. So I think where the bed was in this place is a stone table, maybe.

  • xLizardx

    The last panel would make a fantastic desktop picture, or poster 🙂 The art on this page is *seriously* awesome – really detailed, and really convincing too [drawing a plausible explosion must be difficult, but this seriously looks like a movie still] 🙂

    • I so agree. I love the tree-like things that look like clawed hands (like the one they’re standing/sitting on). It’s spectacular in that way where things look almost familiar and completely alien at the same time. The art is just amazing.

  • Klaus

    The concrete pillers, or what is left of them, are burning like two candles. This seems to be a place where ordinary physics does not apply.

  • warwriter

    I wonder if this is an “oh shit” moment.

    • Pup Ruff

      I think this would qualify, yes.

  • Anna Calloway

    Wow, that’s one tough bed.

    • Tragically_Unhip

      Insert the hardwood joke of your choice here.

      • Anna Calloway

        hahaha good one!

  • pinglederry

    Hah, if I end up being right about the demon thing I will feel very surprised and validated. Well I mean I’m already pretty happy either way. 🙂 You had me with the gay romance from the beginning, even if I was a little worried you were skipping their relationship forward awful fast (which I run into in gay romance a lot for some reason). I shouldn’t have worried. With this sudden explosion (*snerk*) of serious plot this comic has officially vaulted to the top of my reading list. *sets up tent and campstove*

    • I know, romance! And so now, Kyle hooks up with the giant creepy eyeball and they get a house in the Hamptons together and re-do it over in high homo style. I think they’ll make an adorable couple. Well except that eyeball can’t help with dinner parties… no hands. Well, good until the fact that Kyle’s boyfriend never blinks starts to get on his nerves…

      “Okay… stop staring at me.”
      “I’m NOT staring at you.”
      “You are. You so are.”
      “Not everything is about you, you know.”
      “Staring!”
      “Shut up”
      …… and so forth.

      • Adam Black

        so you are saying that isnt really an iris?

        • Well I suppose her name could be ‘Iris’ but I was moderately confident that Kyle was gay at this point. However floating eyeball doth put everything up for grabs. LOL.

          • Adam Black

            get somebody to post a Kyle/eyeball slash porn.
            I want to see the mechanics

    • Glad to have you with us, pinglederry! 🙂

  • KiannaLeigh

    What the fuck? …. Hell? Demons? Oh crap I just … mind overloading! Can’t think!

    Can we go back to the sex please? T_T

    • So I take it from this comment that I should keep the FACEPALM you helped me apply a few days ago in place and look through my fingers like the baby I am? Is something WORSE going to happen to Kyle now. I hate that… “Just when you say things couldn’t get worse.” thing… then Alex dumps a giant creepy eyeball on you. Oh when will I ever learn?

      • KiannaLeigh

        Yep. I totally looked through my fingers at this page like that eyeball was going to notice me and turn around.

  • Eye caramba!

    about the theories of kyle as half-demon or being possessed by one: What if it’s the other way around: this is not about removing a demon from kyle, but actually using him as a vessel for one?

    oh, and I wrote a few pages ago that alex didn’t really surprise me too much before. well, some things change,,,,

  • StarrySkyDancer

    Well, that escalated quickly XD

  • Tragically_Unhip

    Amazing. Bet The Annihilator wasn’t quite prepared for that.

    • well – at least he knew it wouldn’t be a good idea to cast the second spell unarmored, so he must have expected something

      • Tragically_Unhip

        I should probably clarify that I mean more along the lines of:

        “Hm, that’s considerably more hellfire than I had been advised to expect.”

        As opposed to: “Brix presently being shat: Over 9,000!”

        Either way, this does not look like the place I’d want to spend my summer vacation.

    • Denise Cruz

      Well… Who would, anyway?! XDD It’s kind of funny seeing that look in his face, for a change! lol

    • SofiaT

      I don’t think Duncan does anything he isn’t prepared for, down to the last detail.

  • Livia

    Okay! That’s it! I think my mind just exploded. It’s not functioning anymore.

    • Denise Cruz

      Welcome to the club! XDD But, don’t worry too much; it gets worse each time you look at that weird eyeball! lol

      • I think I joined that club, but since mind went el splody… I can’t remember. LOL.

  • Kisa ‘Yuki’ Johnson

    What the actual… what?! o.O;;
    I’m so glad this page doesn’t have any dialog to take away from the awesomeness.
    The art and coloring… wow… WOW.
    Breathtaking!

  • Amanda

    I’m naming that giant floating eye George Finnegan Edwards. I can tell he’s totally wondering what’s up with the naked kid.

    • Adam Black

      maybe its the eye of the reader made visible

      • Amanda

        George has potential to look at this situation as an outside counsel, and help Anni and Kyle come to terms with the sharp turn their relationship has taken and get back to naked kissing and thingy rubbing.

        • Adam Black

          Hes got a name now?

          • Amanda

            Yes. I named him George Finnegan Edwards earlier. We’re now imaginary homies who fist/cornea pump.

          • Adam Black

            that a finnegans wake reference?>

        • Adam Black

          can he blink without a host?

  • Pup Ruff

    Oh. This can’t be good.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Demon? Demon.

    • Klaus

      Demon!

      • ཟློད་

        You are like, SOOOO superficial! Maybe it’s just a very ugly angel.

  • Conjecture: If Duncan is “selling” Kyle to eldritch horror eyeball for whatever horrible purpose… What do we think Duncan is getting in return for handing over the tasty Kyle-snack?

    Is it that extended-youth thing that’s been much discussed… or something else entirely?

    • Sapfo

      Pessimist much Chirs?
      I do not think Kyle is on sale. No, I think he is a key … or maybe something else.

      • Okay thanks… nope not pessimist so much as worry wart. It’s not slave to the giant eyeball as much as I don’t want Duncan to be rewarded for his behavior… you know?

        • Sapfo

          Oh you of little faith.
          You’ve probably heard this before, but this story is not yet finished. And as Alex throw around with our small brains, that we have no idea where we were going to land in the end.

          • I know, I know… you all right, it’s just that worry knows no logic and addiction means I can’t just turn if off and wait for ‘done’ and be fine… so I muddle through and whinge about the obvious. Try to ignore my dafter ramblings. 🙂

          • Sapfo

            Try to ignore you is almost impossible 😉

      • Kalic0

        When I read “he is the key”, the first thing I thought of was “the key master” of “Gozer” from Ghostbusters…hahaha.

    • Derkins

      I think this has more to do with Anni wanting to take over the world, as he casually mentioned on their date.

    • I’m sure there is some sort of humorous something or other that could be said here, but I keep coming up blank.

  • Raven R. Bloodwolf

    Demon? Probably. Hell? Most likely. My response: wtf?! This has taken a turn. Interesting.

  • Klaus

    Are those claw like projections just part of the scenery? Or are they part of a creature? Or is the “scenery”, eye ball included, part of one huge creature?

    • John

      Or is it all of the above? When you start waving magic wands (pun intended) you can never know exactly whats going to happen. Or how.

  • I have a feeling this is all leading up to a really naughty Cthulhuesque threeway.

  • Okay, you got me.

    I was this close to saying “Get on with it already!”

    Now I can see the payoff to all that Duncan-angst is going to be a lot bigger than I thought.

    Very interesting…

  • Xalun K

    So my very first reaction was a very painful facial expression, wherein my eyebrows shot to my hairline, my eyeballs bugged out of my head, and my jaw nearly unhinged it dropped so far.

    My face is still cramping.

    I’m guessing that this was perhaps an unintended affect, or maybe a little more extreme than Annihilator was expecting. In panel 3, though, I’m pretty sure we can just barely make out Kyle still lying on the bed, so that’s good.

    This is starting to remind me of a really intense D&D session. LOL.

    • Wow you played D&D on a whole other level than I did. I’m soooo not worthy. LOL.

      • Xalun K

        LOL Well, let’s put it this way… in 2nd Ed, when you still had to have a calculator just to figure your THAC0, my party managed to explode a Great Wyrm Red Dragon’s head entirely by accident (we weren’t expecting it to explode, just to fry). More recently in an epic level campaign (3.5 ed) we killed the Tarrasque. Shocked the hell out of the DM, too. Hahaha.

    • Xalun K

      Steven, I can’t reply to you directly because apparently your comment is still in moderation, so I’m gonna reply to you here – Kyle’s not dead or burned up. He’s not spouting blood. There are any number of things potentially worse than his position now. So yes… it’s good, relatively. Comparatively.

    • Some of my favorite stories were played out as D&D adventures back in the day, so I know exactly what you’re talking about.

      I should get back into gaming… 🙂

      • Xalun K

        Alex, I’m 34 years old and some of the best stories I have to tell revolve around gaming. Hell, the Tarrasque event happened just a couple years ago.

        You should definitely get back into gaming. Imagine how many more incredible ideas you’d get from it (plus, it’s a whole lot more entertaining than 99% of what ‘adults’ are supposed to do). 😀

  • John

    I know we’re all supposed to be analysing the last few panels (like, have they moved dimensions, or is this a skewed perception of reality)

    But really I’m just admiring the moon in the first panel. It’s so BEAUTIFUL!!

    • Derkins

      I was admiring that as well. However it is hard to ignore the fact that the pretty moon is now an eyeball. Not to mention those pretty mountains. O.o

      • Denise Cruz

        That eyeball is the freakiest thing I’ve ever seen on the sky! Crazy, craqued and weird thing!! Aff!

      • John

        Yeah, it IS rather eye-catching.

        Sorry, couldn’t resist.

        But really I’m waiting for more info on this. Too many variables to make more than a shot-in-the-dark guess. Though it’s worth noting that Anni was making use of an educated guess here. I wonder if HE knews what he’s gotten into here.

  • Derkins

    Oh wow. I went on this tangent back on page 31 about how Kyle perfectly embodies the fool archetype, and how the fact that Anni was actually the enemy, and how that his intentions were hidden, tricking our pure-hearted and trusting Kyle, was perfectly in line with mythical plot structure, making this comic ever so engaging. Since then I’ve been trying to put my finger on the roll Anni is playing at this point, and where all this might lead– knowing that whatever might be the result of this… event… will be damaging to Kyle, but should lead to our hero’s call to action, and the unfolding of destinies and discoveries and whatnot. This page pretty much seals my hunch (sparked by some of the suspicions voiced on the last page, that something was being summoned out of Kyle) that Anni is taking on the Death archetype. That doesn’t mean actual death for anyone necessarily, but Death is the bringer of dramatic change, symbolized by passing to the afterlife (think revelations). This means a pole reversal, shattering the order of things and turning the world on its’ head. It also means transformative change within all of our characters. In other words, we’re not in Kansas anymore, folks. What we had been reading so far had been the calm before the storm, but, Frodo has now officially left the shire. Brace yourselves. 🙂

    • ཟློད་

      This is beginning to look a lot like a Descent into the Underworld.

    • Again, another very interesting analysis, Derkins.

      (And again, you make me want to get back into Tarot card reading… I remember when I first learned the real meaning of the Death card in Tarot—blew my little pre-adolescent brain. Probably one of my earliest understandings of the concept of metaphor.)

      • Derkins

        I wish I’d learned about them that early. I got into it later via art and art history (i’m an artist), when I became fascinated with symbolism. A look into the Kabbalah was recommended to me by a mentor, and the tarot by association, because together they provide us with a genuine “bible” (for lack of a better word) of archetypes and symbology, complete with pictures and everything! Then, realizing that it functions cross-culturally, I started delving into Joseph Campbell and the language of mythology. It’s completely changed the way I look at stories and characters. On a related note, there is a nice little book out there called Tarot for Writers, which is really fun to look through.

  • Sapfo

    The only thing I can be sure of is that it’s not my eye. Wrong shade of brown. Is there anyone else who misplaced their great eye? Come to the office, you can retrieve it against description.

  • Jay Demetrick

    I’m guessing this is Annihilator’s gambit in the “calamity on infinite super-whatsit thing”? (Crisis of Colliding Trans-World Identities?)

  • Thanatopia

    Bad. Ass.

    Seriously, love the visuals here. Are we in hell? R’lyeh? some other extradimensional horrorscape? Who cares – it looks awesome! My compliments to the artist!

    • I agree! Adam and Vero did a really great job with this page! 🙂

  • Adam Irving

    Hmm…robot ninjas vs. Cthulhu? Anyone?

    • Adam Irving

      Or maybe that’s just the Eye of the World.

  • Soubi

    Well, fuck…

    • Gaz Hawkins

      Duncan never got that far…. only thingy smushing 🙂
      wonder what would have happened if they had….er…..well… fucked?

    • LOL. It’s like you can read my mind!

      • Soubi

        I can!

  • ‘From Heaven to Hell For Dummies’ – written by Duncan & Sircea.

  • Ellen Harman

    The song Alex has listed above by Eliza Marriott “Something Else” is great and really worth listening to.

    • xLizardx

      Thankyou! 😀

      • SofiaT

        That’s you? I was wondering who was Eliza here in Disqus 🙂
        Fantastic work, thank you for sharing!

        • xLizardx

          Thankyou for listening! The response has been great 😀
          And yeah, I’m Liz, so —> Lizard. I use Eliza for my music though, to be super-pretentious 😀

          • SofiaT

            oh yes, you’re so pretentious 😛

          • xLizardx

            Well, I do have quite a classy English accent 😀 And I’m perfectly happy to sip tea whilst looking pompous. Mind you, I’m perfectly happy to sip tea in almost any circumstance, so I suppose that’s not really saying much. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            But daaaaaarling, drinking tea while looking pompous is faaabulous! 😀

            In all seriousness, I’ve lived in England and I’m a devoted Anglophile. You’ll have to work harder if you want to convince me of your supposed pretentiousness than telling me about your posh accent.

          • xLizardx

            Hmmm – perhaps I could impress it upon you by demonstrating my effusive enthusiasm for gratuitously grandiloquent vocabulary? 😀

          • You have thoroughly impressed me I must say.

            PS – I really liked your song.

          • SofiaT

            *checks dictionary to see what “grandiloquent” means*

            Sorry about that, English is not my first language.

            Colour me impressed 😀

          • xLizardx

            Where did you live in England? 🙂

          • SofiaT

            London. West London to be exact -I did my Master’s at Brunel so I was near Uxbridge.

      • Denise Cruz

        I loved it too! The melody is so good! The ritmo.. Oh, I loved it!

      • WarGoddess

        Yeah, I took a listen and the song is really sweet with some hints of sadness in it too. It almost made me cry listening to it because it was so lovely and wonderful! It’s almost exactly what I think Kyle has been thinking these last few pages. You also have a very lovely voice! 😀

  • john Johnson

    Suspect no amount of fire could kill our hero. But maybe it would change him somehow

  • Klaus

    Duncan must be more of a sorceror than I thought. I thought that Sircea had cast or prepared the spells needed, and Duncan was just triggering them. But this is does not look like something you would want to face without knowning exactly what you were doing.

    • Yes, which is why it surprised me he cited Sircea as an authority that the spell would paralyze Kyle. You’d think he’d have studied the entire process and be able to know for himself…

      Still hoping Sircea’s screwing him over, and Eyeball will eat him now.

  • bronakopdin

    anyone played the GBA game Golden Sun? xD

    maaaaaan, where are the Robot Ninjas?
    I’m getting all hot and bothered by this development…

    seems Anni didn’t plan for the explosion?
    gah, this is killing me!

  • WarGoddess

    Okay, so now that it isn’t dark anymore, and I have stopped freaking out, I will divulge what I have been theorizing about this comic. I think that around when Kyle was twelve, Duncan and Sircea were attempting to find a portal to an alternate dimension for their own nefarious plans. However, their calculations were off when they initiated the first portal, and it somehow appeared where Kyle was and melded with his body, making him into the new portal. That’s how he got his powers, by being able to access the portal unknowingly and bring forth the fire from another dimension. It would also be how he was able to suck the fire back into himself during the apartment building fire, by forcing it to go to the other place. Now, what Duncan was saying about not being able to harm a “child” under the age of 18 was right, so they couldn’t do anything about it until he was about to turn 18, and it would be strange if he were to go against a rule that he himself enforced. So that is why Duncan decided to lay low for six years, in order to convince Kyle to trust him. Then all of this happened, and Duncan has used Kyle to gain access to the alternate dimension, that way he can probably enslave a few demonic entities from that universe and bring them back to our plane. These entities will maybe be the beings that were talked about that the Young Protectors will have to face that are almost out of their league. That’s just my theory, anyways. 😀

    • Hikaru Takemori

      That it is Duncans and Sirceas ‘fault’ that Kyle has his powers sounds wrong to me, but I like the rest.

      • WarGoddess

        Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that it was their fault. I meant that I think that Duncan and Sircea messed up on their calculations on where the portal was going to appear, and that the portal appeared on its own. Like, it gave some sign that it was going to appear, and they predicted where it would be, but it ended up appearing in a slightly different location.

    • Denise Cruz

      Hi!
      I was wondering: how would it be if in this… whatever is that place on page 34, Duncan and Kyle changed ages/personalities with each other.
      I think it would be pretty interesting to see. Kyle being a 58 years old man and Duncan being a 18 years old boy.
      Unfortunately, I can’t draw nicely… not even a little flower.

      Could I ask you something, please? O.o
      Would you try to draw that for me?
      I really would like to see it! ^v^ It could even look cute. Don’t you think?!
      If you can, please, try! Thank you very much! 🙂

      • WarGoddess

        You mean like a freaky Friday thing? I was actually thinking about doing something like that. 😀

        • Denise Cruz

          Yeah! Kind of it! Wouldn’t it look interesting?! I think so!
          I start puking rainbows each time I picture a young Anni and an older Kyle together… 😀

          • Gaz Hawkins

            and remember, if this is drawn – they only need enough clothing to allow it to past the page censors. I mean, you telling me, they suddenly look like the other guy and they don’t strip off and “pose” in front of the first mirror they find?? yeah, thought they would (I know I’d naked as much as I could be if I looked like duncan LOL

          • Denise Cruz

            Great reminder! lol

          • Gaz Hawkins

            glad to help 🙂 LOL

          • WarGoddess

            Although, I had a thought. Are you wanting me to draw them where they switched bodies, or where Duncan is literally himself, but young, and Kyle is himself, but old? And is it a whole Kyle is the villain and Duncan is the hero?

          • Denise Cruz

            No. I had thought about the second option: Duncan being himself, but young, with the age that Kyle is right now and Kyle also being himself, but with the age that Duncan is right now.

            About the villain/hero thing: Yes! I would like seeing Kyle being a bad bad guy and Duncan being as innocent and naïve as Kyle actually is! 😀

          • WarGoddess

            Okey dokeys!!! I actually think I’ll do both a body-switch picture, and a young Duncan hero/older Kyle villain picture! 😀

    • I seriously doubt Duncan pays much respect to the under-age-18 Rule, let alone goes around enforcing it. 🙁

      Someone who genuinely believed under 18s should be protected wouldn’t think “Right, fair game now!” the very first day they turn 18.

      Duncan attacked Kyle not even a day into being 18. It’s only lip service he pays to the no children rule.

      • WarGoddess

        Ehn, just a theory. Then again, he is a supervillain, and I wouldn’t put any kind of nefarious act past him.

        MUAHAHAHAHA it’s your 18th birthday, let’s dazzle you with romance, then baffle you with a trip to HEEELLLLL!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lol, sorry. XD

    • ScorpioladyCZ

      WOW! Great theory! 🙂

      • WarGoddess

        Thank you! 😀

    • A very interesting theory, WarGoddess. 🙂

      • WarGoddess

        Thank you Alex! 😀

  • Suhndog

    I’m thinking that Anni is not human..or? This location for his building is most likely a ‘doorway’ to another dimension, and Kyle was tested and needed to open the ‘Door’, so that Anni could get back to where he actually abides..
    Anni lives in two ‘worlds’ [- and Sircea]; maybe they are ‘King and Queen’ of this other-worldly dimension.. or?
    Kyle was suckered into aiding some horrible plot that has yet to be revealed – that Duncan & Sircea are planning.. maybe take over the Human’s World? – or.. and there’s that ‘eye’..

  • GiovanniBoss

    So I remember some time ago Duncan and Sircea were talking about Kyle’s powers, where they came from. Not mutant, not magical, so, what about demonic? Guess that’s plausible, having a demon inside himself, that probably was being cornered by Sircea and Duncan and forcefully hid himself inside the young Kyle.

    Well, it’s a thought. What about what Sircea said “it should work on him” wasn’t about Kyle at all, but about Abbadon, Beelzebub, Sammael or whatever is inside Kyle? That being the case, they aren’t so much in another dimension as they’re now inside Kyle. Which would mean the demon could be some kind of Incubus too, drawn to Kyle as he was masturbating at the time, and only accessible through a surge of intense pleasure.

    • Klaus

      But it did work on Kyle.

      • Gaz Hawkins

        A spell worked on Kyle – we actually don’t know if the spell Duncan used WAS the one from Sircea

        Still say Kyle is part Dragon – those claws look quite dragon like

        • Klaus

          While saying “It should work on him”, she gives Duncan a bag. We later see Duncan throwing powder from an identical bag in Kyle’s face. Why doubt that this was what she gave him? Kyle promptly turns invisible. So it did work on Kyle.

          • Gaz Hawkins

            when did Duncan use the bag on Kyle, I could not see it being used from when they had dinner to when Kyle let rip his demongasam – if it was when they were in Hong Kong I took it that was to allow Kyle to still become invisible so he would not be harmed, Duncan has already just said HE organized that, but it did “get away from him” THIS spell has not needed a bag of anything so far, just a few words and some great sex by the look of it – half his luck LOL

          • Klaus

            But it was of the invisibility powder that Sircea said “it should work on him.” She said it while handing him the powder. Furthermore, in the same conversation she says that what Duncan suspects might be true, and that she now has what she need to find out for certain. I take that to mean that at that time she did not know if this latest spell would work.

          • Gaz Hawkins

            yes, but that is kind of the point, we don’t know if these two spells are the same spell (a two part spell) or different (two, single spells), this is meant to be a while AFTER Hong Kong – be it a day or week, month. so the bag was to protect Kyle in the made up ambush but this could be a totally different spell, maybe Sircea is NOT involved in this one. maybe this is all Duncan’s doing as in this dimention he has more power than Sircea and could defeat her – or here he is of level power (or maybe even here she cannot touch Kyle, maybe)

  • Tina

    Lol just now has you hooked? I’ve been hooked since their first magical kiss!

    • Bjørn R Grimsby

      Well, more like tricking me from grass to heavier stuff. Consequences of quitting’ll be much graver…

  • Tina

    That would be a very interesting twist. Kyle knew all along what would happen if this portal (?) was opened

  • JM

    Alex, I love how in your commentary you act like you never know whats going on in your own story. It actually creates a lot of suspense for me as a reader, and it hilariously reminds me of the voice-overs at the end of the Adam West Batman episodes

    • I’m glad you like that. Yep, it’s mostly for fun but I actually always try to put myself in the place of a first-time reader both when I’m writing (so I can edit with that in mind) but also as the page are posted because I’m telling the kind of stories I always wanted to see, so it’s fun to enjoy Adam and Vero’s art on that level, as a “reader”. 🙂

  • Lady_Hiroko

    Hmm….A lot of posters have some valid theories. From the look of this page, I believe it IS another dimension. It is said that Kyle’s powers are not magical or mutant. However, it could be demonic (as somebody suggested), Godly, or it could simply be a combination of both (magic and mutant) making his rather rare and unique–assuming his parents have one or the other respectively.

    JM: I too love how Alex never seems to know what’s going on in his own story. it makes it all the more real and adds to suspense. Then again, I know several of my friends who write on a whim, go back and say “WTF? What was I on and where can I get some more?” Because it just, well….FLOWS.

    Anyway, I can’t wait. I don’t camp like some people do. I merely wait until Yaoi No Go Go posts the notification on FB. But I squeal like a little girl when I see it. I’d love to donate but I just spent several hundred dollars on food and bills. And, from the looks of it, I won’t be getting a paycheck until my gov’t takes off their rose-colored glasses and gives them to me. So my way of “donating” is spamming all of my friends pages/profiles with this webcomic.

  • amanda

    HOLY SHIT!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!
    wait….
    I just remembered kyle mentioned that he had a foster family what if he is like I don’t know the son of some kinda evil deity and they are trying to release upon the earth.
    like Raven from teen titans???

  • Adam Black

    “Quor’toth? The Platinum Priestess said this would take us to her bungalow in the world-without-shrimp “

  • Camislikesocool

    *watches as her brain oozes out of her ears* I have no idea what is going on. *Goes back and rereads every comic* I….I….I don’t….I…I can’t.

  • What the EFFF!!!!!!?

    Eyeball moon? Big claws? Where the heck are they???

  • WarGoddess

    Hey there!! Everyone who was wanting me to draw a baby Duncan on the last page, I posted it on my DA page! Here’s a link, and I hope you like it! 😀

    http://www.deviantart.com/art/Baby-Duncan-and-Kyle-D-403671738

    • SofiaT

      Awesome! I tried leaving a comment on DeviantArt but it wants me to sign up and I can’t bother!

      Thank you for obliging us! 😀
      It’s really cute, you should make sure to email it to Alex, to put on the fanart page 🙂

      • WarGoddess

        You’re welcome!! And I emailed him, so hopefully he will put it on the fan art page! 😀

        • SofiaT

          I’m sure he will! 😀

          P.S: Guess what is now my laptop desktop picture? 😉

          • WarGoddess

            Idk, a cat wearing a Rambo headband and carrying a golden Desert Eagle while riding a majestic unicorn that has laser beam eyeballs and is spewing glittery fire from its nose? Lol that’s actually a real picture that someone made called “welcome to the internet.” I have it as a desktop picture on my other laptop. XD

          • SofiaT

            XD

          • WarGoddess

            The person who made it also has other pictures that are hilarious, like Abraham Lincoln riding a grizzly bear, JFK riding a robot unicorn on the moon, George Washington killing zombies, Ronald Reagan riding a velociraptor, and many others. XD

    • Denise Cruz

      Awwwnnn! How cute are they?! Such a sweet image! <3 I loved it! Adorable! Kyle's bright eyes won my heart!!!

      • WarGoddess

        I know, his bright eyes almost gave me cavities from being so sweet!! 😀

        • Denise Cruz

          And the little hands holding / pulling the tips of the little feet?!.. So freaking cute!!
          Anni looks adorable too! And he didn’t even lose his majestic pose! XD

    • YES! That’s exactly it!! So good. So adorable. Wish I could upvote this a bunch more times.

    • Niggle

      Hilarious and adorable at the same time!

    • Feverfew_M

      Aww, too cute!

  • Miss Trips

    Big long breath.

    Lots and lots of very profane words.

    Wow.

    Just… wow.

    Sweet baby Jenova cookies with geostigma sprinkles on top!

    Annihilator, didn’t anyone ever tell you jumping into Hell dimensions was a bad idea? Either he is vastly overconfident about his success chances here or he is a lot higher on the power scale than I was thinking. I had him pegged about the level of Mandarin, Doom or maybe Sinister. A serious threat to any one group or powerful hero, he is one of the top tier villains of his verse after all… but this? This is like Hulk, Phoenix or Apocalypse level cajones.

    I know I wouldn’t be headed into a place like that unless I knew that on my own I could smash anything coming my way.

    But I am tentatively shelving my notion that Kyle is a djinn in favor of him being a cambion instead if his nature/genetic makeup was a necessary component to this scheme. This place doesn’t look like the City of Brass after all!

    And where oh where is the Platinum Priestess?

  • Alan Michael Williams

    News alert: Young Protectors renamed to Eyeball Moon.

  • Ever watchful eye…poisonous fume…barren wasteland.

    No walking for Anni…nope. Instead we just EXPLODE our way into Mordor!

    Onedoesnotsimplywalkintomordor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r21CMDyPuGo)

  • SofiaT

    This page here justifies my decision to stop fretting and trying to guess what’s going to happen in the next few pages and only go for general, long-haul theories, while sitting back and enjoying the ride.

    Getting into Alex’s mind is just impossible! Impossible I tell ya!

    • Denise Cruz

      I completely understand what you are talking about. It ends up being useless and tiring… But, I think it’s so funny to try it, that I can’t avoid it. Even knowing pretty well that I’ll never guess it right, I just can’t give up! (I’m a brazilian girl, after all! A brazilian person never gives up! Never! XD)

    • I have indeed found it easier to just let Alex take us on this crazy twisting journey of his, though it’s fun throwing about theories.

      But I will say for this one: location location location 🙂

      • Denise Cruz

        Hey! Do you think this weird place could be just an hallucination caused by something in that wine they had took or even by something used on that flowers?(and that, of course, Anni wasn’t cient of?!)

        • Not something I had thought of, but that’s an interesting notion. Especially if you go with the idea that PP is going to double cross the Duncanator.

          • Denise Cruz

            I do think she had something with that! And, yes, I still think that Anni didn’t know about somethings that would going to happen right there. What means it was a double betrayal; not just from Anni and PP over Kyle, but also from PP over Anni. At least, that’s what I believe. And yes! I know I may be wrong, once Alex has the most unpredictable mind about which I’ve ever heard about. lol

            Oh, I hope Wednesday don’t take so long to come…

          • Alex does seem to twist and turn this story about. I mean this page was never something I expected. Wednesday can’t get here soon enough.

            Well, it looks like someone has a bit of an issue with me. All of my comments on this page have been down voted. Wow.

          • Denise Cruz

            Don’t you worry about this one! We all like you very much!

          • Thank you. I like everyone too. I was mostly a bit surprised by it. I noticed there seem to be a few others down voted for no reason, so it could just be a coincidence, but it’s all of mine on this page. Whatever. 😛

          • Denise Cruz

            This.. creature.. down voted me and some other people too. It’s just some silly person trying to be funny or get some attention…

            As you said: Whatever! XD

          • Well said. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh! BTW: I think WarGoddess is going to drawn a young Anni with an older Kyle, as I asked for… Did you see it?! ^V^

          • I can’t wait to see what she comes up with. I love the baby Anni and Kyle.

          • Denise Cruz

            Me too! 🙂 They’re so freaking cute!
            I asked her to draw a young and innocent Anni (18 yo) and an old and badass Kyle (58 yo).
            She’s so good at it!
            I can’t wait to see them! ^v^ (So glad about it!)

          • I love her work and young Anni and older Kyle should be awesome. You hear that @disqus_yjiINLn9PV:disqus your work is awesome!

          • Denise Cruz

            Agreed! Totally agreed!! ^v^

          • WarGoddess

            Thank you so much! XD I do have my own original artwork, with my own anime-style characters, which I will eventually post on my DA page. So I don’t just draw fan art of TYP, but that seems to be what my inner-artist is stuck on drawing for the moment. I’ll start on the two other pieces I’ll be drawing tomorrow (which includes the one commissioned by Denise Cruz) and hopefully I can get them both done and posted on DA by Monday my time. (I live in the mid-U.S.) 😀

          • I look forward to seeing both the new YP drawings and your original work. I wish I weren’t broke. I would hire you in an instant to draw some of my characters.

          • WarGoddess

            Well, if you have an idea that you would like to see created based on the TYP, you can always mention it here and I will see about making it a reality! And if you have some other character, you can always give me descriptions on my deviantart and I will draw them to the best of my abilities! You don’t need to pay me for it, it’s just a hobby right now until I go through college. Just waiting on some GI bill stuff right now. 😀

          • I will send a note through deviant art either tonight or tomorrow about the character(s). 😀

            You’re certain though? Because you’re an artist, you should be compensated for it.

          • WarGoddess

            Yeah, I’m okay with it! As long as it’s just a few drawings and not 50 million of them, lol. I do free commissions for friends a lot. I think I only ever drew one picture for money, but that was in highschool when the person gave me 5 dollars outright for it. 😀

          • I’ll send you that note then. 😀

          • Did you get the note via deviant art? I’ve never sent one before, so…

          • WarGoddess

            My phone sucks when it comes to accessing DA, so tomorrow I will go to the library so I can check on my laptop. The library was closed today ’cause it’s Sunday. 😀

          • Gotcha. No hurries.

          • WarGoddess

            I got it, but it didn’t have a link on it to the fiction you were talking about. Could you send it to me pretty please? 😀

          • It’s sent. I didn’t want to just send it and presume you would want to read a few chapters.

          • Denise Cruz

            Yey! Thanks!! I can’t wait to see it! ^v^

          • WarGoddess

            Just don’t forget that without Alex, Adam, and Vero, we would never have been this inspired! Thank you to the author and illustrators who made the magic happen! 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            I don’t think we could forget about them… Ever! Each time I remember some part I love the most, I start thinking about their talent. wondering their hard work and how much time it took from them until it could look this great! ^v^

          • WarGoddess

            Okay, well I drew the picture, but I can’t download it onto my DA page until sometime tomorrow. I will let you know when I post it! 😀

          • WarGoddess

            I drew the pic for Denise and uploaded it on DA if you wanna see it! Here’s the link:

            http://wargoddess92.deviantart.com/art/What-if-404233028

          • Yay! Kyle is hot stuff

          • Having just had the weird concept of down voting kindly explained to me by Wolf, I had a contrary moment and just anti-trolled and up voted everyone above. Sorry to mess with Disquis’ algorithms (or something), just made me feel good.

            Can I just say it’s really odd that up votes are public but down votes are private. Can’t people take responsibility either way?

            The whole thing is odd. 😛

          • It is a rather odd phenomena. Granted, I understand a little bit why the down vote is anonymous, but at the same time it’s crappy to not be upfront about it. The thing is, if someone doesn’t like what I say either ignore it, or explain the why of it. Just going about down voting folks is a bit, well… dickish (Wheaton’s Law folks, it’s a good thing).

            Other than that, I thank you for the up-vote! 😀

          • WarGoddess

            Person who’s downvoting: I’M NOT GETTING ENOUGH ATTENTION SO I’M GONNA DOWNVOTE ALL OF THESE LOVELY PEOPLE BECAUSE I’M JEALOUS OF THEIR POPULARITY. MY LIFE IS SO EMPTY. Lol, just kidding. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            I wouldn’t doubt it. You know?! XDD Some people find weird and ineffectives ways to get some attention…

            I don’ understand why they just don’t say ‘HI’ to someone else and start chatting… It would be so much easier, so much nicer…^v^

          • WarGoddess

            Maybe he/she is extremely shy. Or having a very bad day. Either way, they need to be cuddled. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Well… being shy at this level, I wouldn’t doubt if he/she had a heart attack and dropped dead, just because of a little cuddle from us! lol (just kidding, of course!)

          • WarGoddess

            Yeah, cuddle-induced heart attacks are one of the leading causes of death nowadays! 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            XDDD

          • WarGoddess

            Well, I hope it’s not me, ’cause i’d never wanna downvote anyone, but my cellphone has acted like a complete and total moron lately, so I wouldn’t be surprised. Like, I try to click the upvote button, but my finger is too big for the arrow, so I accidentally hit the downvote button. Although I have made sure to re-hit the button so the downvote goes away. Idk why anyone would want to downvote anyone, it doesn’t seem like a very nice thing to do. 🙂

          • The individual down voted your post with the link to the baby Anni and Kyle page. I don’t think you down voted yourself 🙂 I’ve accidentally hit down vote myself, my finger slipping, but yeah I always make certain I hit it again.

          • WarGoddess

            Aww, well, whoever this person is, we need to track them down and give them a giant group hug! They’re probably having an upside-down day today that can only be cured by the magical healing power of cuddles! 😀

          • Probably. Hugs fix almost everything. 🙂

      • I just went and up voted all a’ya in this thread…cuz all a’ya are rockin’

        Folks like you are part of what make this here comments section so great! Civilized, intelligent, and generous with the hugs. Still opinionated but respectful too…Let’s all up vote ourselves a big ‘ole group hug…I know Alex is proud.

        • Thank you. I think we all do try. This really is a great community. It’s nice chatting with all these folks from all over about the comic and all sorts of other things. The community makes the wait for each page so much easier.

        • Indeed he is. 🙂

    • Absolutely true. Makes it easier somehow. Just sit back and let it come.

  • SofiaT

    Have you voted for the Top Web Comics today children? TYP is currently #129, only 29 spots away from the Top #100! C’mon lets work together and make this happen (and don’t forget Artifice! It’s way too cool to be left alone at #385)

  • Titan4Ever

    I spy with my little eye something that begins with . . .

  • xsarabellax

    Did someone just blow a hole into an different universe?! That’s what I call an orgasm!

  • I have to say I am in awe of this page. The depth of colors in all the panels and especially the last. You can almost believe you’re there. Wherever there is. The rocks in that last panel, look like they’re made of the denizens of that world. Can you see them creeping along and/or tormented?

    • Denise Cruz

      Indeed! It’s such an amazing work that I can’t look at that last panel for more than five seconds. It gives me icy chills. ( Ironic isn’t?! )

      • Yup, it’s that good that we can’t look long without needing to duck down behind something.

        • SofiaT

          who the hell is downvoting everything??

          • No clue. But, they appeared to be mostly my comments. It was all really weird.

          • SofiaT

            How rude. I’ll upvote you to make up for it 😛
            (Although I upvote almost all your comments anyway, we tend to agree a lot)

          • Yes, yes we do. 😀

            So how was the cake? You did make a cake?

          • SofiaT

            I made a marble cake yesterday but I followed a recipe I found online and it was a disaster.

            So I made a moist chocolate cake today with my friend, it was an old and tried recipe and it turned out amazing. For the frosting I made a chocolate ganache.

            Sinfully good! 😀

          • Mmmm. Chocolate cake. *gimme*

            Recipes online are hit and miss. The pumpkin cheese cake recipe didn’t turn out so swell. It wasn’t horrible, but there was not really enough pumpkin. But then that one was circulating on FaceBook. Each time one of those circulates, it’s a 90% failure rate.

          • SofiaT

            I left the rest of it at my friend’s place. I really shouldn’t have had any, what with my stomach issues and all, but I couldn’t help myself! It was so good, I had two pieces :s

            I can give you the recipe, it’s ridiculously easy to make and with a fantastic texture.

            Edit: here it is: http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/11526/quick+mix+chocolate+cake

          • There is no resisting cake! Thanks for the recipe. Next time I feel inspired to bake, I’ll give it a shot!

          • Sapfo

            If it´s only one downvote per comment then it probably means that you have a nemesis. Wow! You must be a hero or something 😉

            Well there can be three explanations to the downvoting.
            1. someone do it by mistake (not very likely since there are to many of them)
            2. someone does not have the courage to express their own views.
            3. They really not getting what your writing.

            I have read some of you comment (not all) and I have not yet come across anything that would merit a downvote to you.

          • My ego likes the idea of being a hero. 🙂

            One just never knows with these things, what’s going through another’s mind. I try to be courteous while posting, a bit playful on occasion. At least it was just for that small section.

    • I agree, Vero did a really lovely job with this. Both Adam and I were very impressed with what she did here. Everything I could hope for and more. 🙂

      • Sapfo

        It seems to be very inspiring to work as you three do together. I know that I appreciate the results that come from your cooperation.

        • I honestly feel very luck to be able to work with them. It totally inspires me to up my game. 🙂

  • ཟློད་

    NERD!!!

  • Victor Garritano

    Apparently, being forced to jizz fire sends you off to a wicked dimension where the eye of Sauron substitutes for the Sun

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I think I saw this in Chick track once.

  • ཟློད་

    Okay, that can’t be an actual, literal eyeball up there, because that would just be crazy. I mean, what would keep it from drying out? It’s not like it’s attached to a giant eyelid. Or an optic nerve, or a brain for that matter. It’s just hovering there by itself, not integrated into a biological organism.(*) Besides, it’s depth perception must be awful.

    By the same token, the flames, lightning and geology (or biology, if they are standing on a burnt-out tree or something) can’t be real either, at least not without radical changes to known physical laws.

    Since all this makes no literal sense, I have to suppose that it is a symbol of something. For example, in the Marvel Universe, Galactus does not really look like a giant Caucasian male who wears a skirt and helmet, but only looks that way to humans (for some reason), while alien races perceive him in a more culturally-appropriate way.

    In that case, why would Kyle perceive Zoole (**) as a giant eyeball? What would an eyeball mean to him? This brings us to the realms of psycho-analysis (Freud) /analytical psychology (Jung), and the weirder forms of literary / cultural criticism.

    Does Kyle feel watched? Perhaps he feels inadequate, or lives in fear of discovery.

    Does it matter that the eye is red? “Red eye” being a (perhaps antiquated) slang term for the anus, perhaps it represents his understanding of gay sex (while the stalagmites resemble objects removed from the GI tract during surgery for an impacted colon, let us say. Or perhaps he is just tired or irritated (the other meaning of “red eye”).

    Meister Eckhart says that “the eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God’s eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing…” This points to the reflexive nature of consciousness, and the suitability of the eye as a symbol for it. In other words, Kyle is poised to attain greater consciousness and self-awareness during this, his Descent into the Underworld.
    Besides, a giant nose would not have had the same effect at all.

    (*) That is, unless the rest of that biological organism were invisible to us. Perhaps that explains the significance of the invisibility powder working on Kyle.

    (**) The deity from Ghostbusters was actually named in honor of…I believe she was one of the producers, something like that. Zoole was her family name.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Nice comment, but that only applies to their world’s physical laws. Either this is an amazing where-the-heck-can-I-get-what-you’ve-been-smoking hallucination or most of us are presuming Annihilator’s opened a rift to take them to some other plane or dimension.
      Who know’s the whole eyeball thing could be called George, the friendly neighborhood customs agent.

    • ScorpioladyCZ

      “what would keep it from drying out?”
      “it’s depth perception must be awful”— Eh?? 😀

      It is just a comic. I think real world rules does not apply for such weird objects as giant eyeball.

  • Midwestmutt

    I expect the Platinum Priestess will show up shortly. This looks like her kind of turf.

    • silibub

      I hope so! “Welcome…to my lair.”

  • Sai

    Well if burning down his house made him never want to engage in sexual activity ever again, getting transported to Mordor most definitely will have a similar effect.

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      Companions Magazine: Jesuit Ministry Journal

      Interview With Young Missionary, Jan 2014

      Q: “So what inspired you to join the priesthood, Father Kyle.”

      A: “Divine intervention.”

      Q: “Isn’t celibacy difficult for a young man your age?”

      A: “No.”

      • Denise Cruz

        XDDDDDDD That was hillarious! lol

      • WarGoddess

        PFFFFT LOL XD

      • Well I suppose if your only option is sex with a giant creepy eyeball, then celibacy doesn’t seem all that bad as an alt. 🙂

        But thingy smushing? I guess that’s right out.

  • Skittles 4ever

    O.O … *Blink Blink* WHAAAAAAAA??

    Did they just go to hell or something? I am thoroughly confused. Good job Alex, good job!

  • Cat Astrophe

    ALTERNATE DIMENSION!!!! Duuuuude :3

  • silibub

    Random, but…the giant eyeball and alternate dimension make me want to play through Persona 4 again.

  • This hellish betrayla must be a real eyeopener for Kyle…

  • Jade

    Moon becomes eye.

  • I am in awe of this comics story and the talent behind it. I’m quite curious as to what that eyeball represents. Just… wow.

    • Thank you, Trinket! Glad to have you with us! 🙂

  • I…I don’t…what…WHAT

  • WarGoddess

    Well, I don’t think the giant creepy floating eyeball in the sky has ever heard of Clear Eyes.

    *Cue Ben Stein holding a beachball* Monotonous voice:

    For dry, red eyes, Clear Eyes is AWESOME. It removes redness, and has an ingredient to moisturize. *showers the ball* WOW. The difference is clear. Clear Eyes.

    Lol XD

    • When that dry hellish air irritates the eye of hell, he turns to clear eyes. 😀

      • WarGoddess

        Well, I think he needs to apply a few more drops of that stuff, ’cause that looks hella itchy lol. 😀

  • Denise Cruz

    Oh! It looks like we are getting the next bonus page, even before we can see the one for this week!! ^v^

  • Hhmmmmm would that be Sircea, then?
    Also, this may not be intended Alex, but I keep pronouncing Sircea like Circe and then I end up with this little side story in my mind where she learned to control her gift through the tutelage of Circe on her island of man hating.

  • science

    Perhaps that second spell Annhi cast made Kyle hallucinate this surrealistic scene? That would make anyone he tells his story to question his credibility…

    • “And then, Commander, just after my penis released a giant fireball that blew up the warehouse, there was this massive detached eyeball floating in the sky staring down at my naked body…”

      • “No, I’m not on drugs, why would you think that?”

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          Yes, he did give me something to drink. Was the bottle sealed? No, why do you ask?

  • I wonder if the fact that it happened to be a full moon on his birthday had anything to do with the whole thing.

    • Seems like it would make sense, for sure. Plus the fact that he’s a virgin…but I’m still not sure about how all that combined to get us to Mordor-bloodshot-eyeball-hellscape-terra-firma.

      • I’m not sure the lack of sexual experience was a part of it other than it allowed Duncan to easily manipulate Kyle. Why the full moon? Of course, it could just be there to make the statement of hey now it’s a giant eye ball. 😛 But usually during a full moon magic can be stronger. And if there are leylines around that mountain top, and Kyle just happens to be turning 18 at that exact moment… It could be like all the planets aligning perfectly.

        • I think grooming is a better word than manipulate, as Kyle was (is) a vulnerable child for most of their encounters.

          • I think I may stick with manipulate. It just makes more sense to me, because one can manipulate a child. At seventeen, he is more than a child, he’s just not *considered* an adult. I think he was vulnerable because the adults in his life failed him.

          • Copy-pasting what I wrote on the last page about my feelings re what Duncan has done:

            //What Duncan has done is groom an incredibly vulnerable teenage boy. He knew Kyle had been in foster care, so already likely had difficult
            origins, that his foster family likely rejected Kyle after the fire, he knew that Kyle was consumed with guilt, that he wouldn’t even dare touch himself despite being a teenage boy out of fear he harmed innocent people with his powers, and he knew that Kyle had no one to turn to about his feelings, that he was too afraid to confide even in his best
            friends. He knew Kyle was a vulnerable child, and he offered Kyle what he craved – acceptance, someone to talk to about his feelings, and
            someone whom he could finally experience release with safely.

            And that vulnerability didn’t stop the second the clock struck midnight on the day of Kyle’s birthday. Kyle didn’t automatically become wise, an adult, able to perceive that Duncan was deceiving him.

            Duncan groomed him. It really bothers me, and yes, that Kyle is now frightened as well as betrayed,… 🙁 🙁 I feel really really uncomfortable with the notion that in the end there will be a HEA with
            the two of them together.

            // end copy paste
            For me, manipulate isn’t strong enough. It doesn’t capture the predatory element of what Duncan’s done. Anyone can manipulate by being passive-aggressive, etc. And anyone can be manipulated without being vulnerable or specifically vulnerable the way Kyle is. That’s why grooming is the word for me. The only meaningful difference between Duncan and an internet paedo is that his real interest in Kyle wasn’t sexual.

          • What Duncan did was crappy, there is no way around it. It was a complete shit move. Kyle wanted sex and Duncan offered it to him to gain what he wanted. As for how to describe it, I think that comes down to semantics.

          • Your words are well selected and well used. Good post. I think again you pin-point what causes some of us such angst. It’s not the threat or the fantasy or the amazing trans-dimension events. It’s the fact that Duncan is a guy who could do what you just described… do THAT. It’s hard to find a door to forgiveness in some of our heads when we run the scenario through as articulately as you just did.

            Which in no way negates every other kick ass awesome thing about the unfolding story. As you say, it only speaks to the way some of us feel about potential K&D HEA issues.

            Some of us are able to give an auto-out for these kinds of emotional issues for a comic. While, some of us will just have to treat it with the same gravitas of any work of art. So it’s going to be different for every individual. I think make you point well. Everyone will have to view it through their own lens.

            Thanks for the post.

        • I kinda like your comment that the eyeball is there to make a statement but I tend to agree with you that the moon definitely has something to do with making the magic stronger.

          As for his virginity, we’ll see if that was a factor in later pages…though I really can’t see where the later pages are going with this.

          This is sooo much fun. I have no idea what’s going to happen next!

          • Nope, it’s all just speculation right now. 😛 I’m still just a bit shocked to find the comic taking this twist. This was not what I expected to happen at all, but I would like that moon to mean something.

  • Klaus

    I don’t expect that many of you understand Danish, but for those who do:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPM7fkO4u08

  • KNT609

    That escalated quickly…

  • ཟློད་

    You know what this comic needs? Public service messages, just like the Super-Friends used to have. Picture Kyle and Duncan standing there, facing the Fourth Wall, and saying things like “You can be a Young Protector too! Use Protection!” “Yeah, don’t do what we did! Or else your genitalia will look like THIS!” (cue hellscape)
    Or maybe “Hey kids! Don’t run off with strange men until you’re 18! Hmm, better make that 19.”

    • Tina

      “If a strange sexy villain tries blackmailing you into a kiss in alleyway: Just. Say. No.”

      • Yukiness

        Tsunami: Wait Kyle…what?
        Kyle: Don’t ask, just trust me on this one.

        • Tina

          We could have a whole, “Sonic Sez” at the end of each page! And Flyboy can be Tails

          • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

            Knowing is half the battle! G I Jooooooe! er Young Protectooooors!

    • Adam Black

      I read that marvel cartoon.

      It was *AWFUL*

  • fujoshifanatic

    This is where we find out about the crisis of trans world identities, isn’t it? I can’t wait!

  • SofiaT

    I must say I’ve memorised the lyrics of “Something Else” by now, it’s been on repeat on youtube quite a lot. Found myself humming it on the train earlier.

    I’d love an mp3 version of it for my ipod… *hint @xLizardx:disqus hint*

    • Shella_Bluey

      I would love an mp3 version too, it’s such a beautiful song. 🙂

    • vessto

      I may convert it if you want? The YT mp4 version to mp3?

      Btw, great new avatar, you’re so beautiful!

      • SofiaT

        Ohhhh, you can do that?? With Eliza’s permission of course 😀

        And thanks 🙂

        This pic is a couple of years old but it’s from a favourite vacation on my favourite greek island -plus I’m tan there and I so miss both the Aegean and being tan… *sigh*

        The Aussie sun demands a hat and lots of sunscreen and staying in the shade as much as possible.

        Huge ozone layer holes will do that to a country.

        • vessto

          Wikes, I hope she posts here so could give a permission?

          I didn’t know ozone layer is so damaged in Australia.:( Sad how humans destroy the nature, ne?

  • M2MM

    The last panel reminds me of an old episode of Spiderman! 😀

  • SpookyDomme

    So…something involving Kyle’s power is a portal of some kind? Or where his power came from is, uh, otherworldly?
    THIS IS SO AWESOME

  • december

    GAH!!

    Excuse me for wanting to make immature jokes about Gandalf and Frodo now…

  • Someone downvoted me. 🙁 They mustn’t like my cornea puns…

    • Adam Black

      that one was worse.

  • Jamie Dutton

    OMG, that was awesome!!

  • YG_Frenchie

    Tell me if this has been pointed out before, because I don’t read all the comments (too many), but I’ve just re-read the whole comic and have come to a possible conclusion:

    Right before Duncan steps into the gate that Platinum Priestess made for him and Kyle to Hong Kong, they have this conversation…

    “New Possibilities do make one feel… Young.”

    “And really, who could ask for anything more?”

    Makes me think that they’re after youth. For themselves? Some kind of ritual they need with a virgin sacrifice type of thing to turn back their age clocks? It’s the way Alex puts key words in Bold that makes me think this. He’s probably telling us the whole story just in those bolded words and we’re not seeing it right away.

    • Yes, people have been suspecting it since that very first conversation.

      Some people combine it with Duncan’s monologue from a couple of pages ago re his need to always be strong and see that as more evidence that they’re after youth to maintain their strength and power.

      Others think the fact that it has been heavily implied twice makes it more likely to be one of Alex’s red herrings.

      • Firebirds1

        Yes, he does seem to like his fishies doesn’t he

      • Cookie

        Sircea mentions “the old rules” and that “only solomon truly understood them.” Which means she’s talking about the summoning of demons and binding them to their will. What’s more, she says this in reference to Kyle, and we’re led to believe it’s about his powers.
        Whatever they’re after, it involves demons. I’m pretty sure this page confirms that much, at least.

        • Denise Cruz

          Couldn’t it be related to Kyle’s powers?
          Once he could handle fire that good, it probably could have coming from a demon. (Some people talked about a Phoenix, but, I’m more on the demons theory.).
          If PP knew, for sure, to which demon Kyle’s powers were related, they could use this for some kind of spell on their own benefit…

          • Cookie

            Keep in mind Kyle’s not as in control of his powers as he’d like to be. I mean, the poor kid can’t even jerk it for fear that he’ll accidentally burn the place to the ground.
            This speaks more to the idea that he’s part demon by birth rather than that he summoned and bound one to him himself. I could always be wrong, though.
            With that in mind, I’m assuming Duncan’s either going to use Kyle as a bargaining chip, or that he’s simply using him as a means of transportation to/communication with hell.

          • GiovanniBoss

            I’m still inclined to believe the demon was attracted to kyle due to his jerking at that time, probably running away from Duncan and Sircea. Which would make him/her Incubus/Succubus related. Also would explain the discovery of his powers, Kyle had just got them there. It makes sense to me that Duncan would need an intense orgasm to get inside Kyle, in order to reach Mr./Mrs. cubus there. So that’d be the weird landscape, inside Kyle, not hell.

            My guess is they tried summoning the demon 6 years ago and he/she ran from them to the closest person having sexual pleasure.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hmmmm…if “jerking” during adolescence (or any other time) leaves one open to demons being attracted to one, and consequently managing to “inhabit” one, then I most probably am chock-full to near-bursting with a veritable metropolis of demons abiding inside my being.

          • Adam Black

            Actually .. since you brought it up…

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, no! I didn’t mean that Kyle had summoned a demon by/for himself, but that he was kind of… connected to one, or maybe more, since he was born without even knowing that… But, of course, I can be wrong too… Alex’s mind is completely unique, anyways. ^v^

          • Amanda

            If there’s a demon association with Kyle, I am leaning more to the idea that maybe he is half demon (after all he was in a foster home, so obviously no parents in the pic).

          • Denise Cruz

            Ok, but… He’s TOOOO cute to be a freaking demon… Don’t you think?! XDDDD

          • I think demons could come in many forms.

          • Adam Black

            grueselag?

    • Comic Reader

      That is along the lines of what I am thinking too. Something like using a young superhero as a fountain of youth or vitality potion. Also he may be trying to steal Kyle’s power for himself.

    • Hikaru Takemori

      I for one never understood how people get from that sentence to the theory of youth stealing. To me it feels like an obviously wrong conclusion. Granted that Alex has put hints on what to come in the pages, but I don’t think this is one of those, not in that sense anyways. As I see it nothing in that sentence suggests that Duncan or PP want youth. The way I see it he is not refering to anything else but the possibilities he is talking about.
      Also being young and feeling young are two different things and wanting to feel young does not mean wanting to be young.

      • YG_Frenchie

        What made me think this way is that Duncan and PP are “older”… They age. They won’t stop aging. If they reverse the process by getting youth then they can live longer lives. That’s my only reason for them doing this to Kyle.

        My brain went:
        – Older villains
        – Virgin sacrifice who can get them the power they need.
        – Reverse age and outlive other villains and take over the universe/world/whatever.

        And their “feeling young” quote could have been a little inside joke between them that we don’t know the meaning behind yet.

        But, that’s just a guess. The story isn’t even half over.

  • Acheron Hades

    Woah.

  • Ley

    im assuming they needed kyle’s mega orgasm to trigger this travel to some “other dimension” to talk to another mega-villain so they can wreck more havoc into the earth.. just my opinion.

    • Klaus

      But why? He is not doing it just to wreck havoc. What is in it for him?

  • Yukiness

    I don’t remember this part of Lord of the Rings…

    • xLizardx

      Yes, Sam was never that much older than Frodo 😀

  • Klaus

    There is just one thing I must have missed. On page 24 of this chapter, third panel, Duncan makes a promise. When is he going to keep that promise?

    • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

      I’m thinking Duncan’s promises aren’t worth spit. I would presume at this point anything he says is a lie.

      • Klaus

        But he may want to keep that promise. Wouldn’t you?

        • Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild

          I thought there was still a chance Duncan might be “gay for pay” since he said if Kyle was straight Sircea would be the one doing the seducing but the job landed in his lap since Kyle was not straight.

          • Denise Cruz

            I kind of think of him as a bisexual, at least. One man straightly heterosexual wouldn’t EVER accept doing that. Wouldn’t matter why.

          • Gaz Hawkins

            there are many “sides” to ‘gay’. I don’t really identify as gay, I’m just a guy who likes sex with other guys – this could be Duncan’s view too.

          • Denise Cruz

            All right… Maybe it is…
            When thinking about Duncan’s view, everything is possible! He’s quite a hard guy to understand, sometimes… ^v^

  • ScorpioladyCZ

    What the hell – Mordor?!! 😀 That makes no sence to meeee! What is Sauron doing here? And where is Frodo? 🙂

    Was there some evil demon tarapped in Kyle’s body and PP and Anni would like to do some “bussiness” with him? Like world domination? 🙂 Or something like that (the stuf villains like). LOL. I dunno, I’m so completly lost now…:)

    But I have to say GREAT work – that giant eyebal looks VERY disturbing!!! Very.

    Great coloring, great everything… You rock. You are very inspirative (I draw myself, so I can appreciate your work from artists pint of wiev.)

    So, now I’ll go read to see what others think… And get wiser… 🙂

    • Thank you. It’s always great to hear when work inspires another creator. 🙂

  • I don’t understand what you’re trying to say – your first sentence is at odds with the rest, and with my comment.

  • L4ur4

    what that place looks so creepy its like gonna haunt me in my nightmares!!

  • It does look that way.

    • Amanda

      Because George Finnegan Edwards (ake Giant Floating Eye) is getting ready to rip Duncan’s freaking clothes off, cause he was enjoying Dat Ass as much as the rest of us.

      • Steven Klimecky

        The great unspeakable Voyeur-God.
        (a.k.a., “Peeping George”)

      • Denise Cruz

        “George Finnegan Edwards”?!? XDDDDDDDDD
        Amanda, you are unbelievable! lol
        I liked very, very much!!! XDDD

      • YAY!

      • Again… the focus is spot on! Nice!

  • Here’s a crazy crazy thought. What if Duncan did all of this to kill some extra-crispy extra evil bad guy that was going to invade and/ or destroy the universe?

    • Tina

      I’d love that! Because then he could be all like, “I’m sorry Kyle, I didn’t have any other choice. It was either you or the universe!”

      • Steven Klimecky

        I think if that were the case he would have been, or could have been, honest with Kyle, and Kyle, because of his helpful and altruistic nature, and desire to help others. would have agreed, even though Duncan would have told him there would be many tough trials ahead. The fact that he’d have to engage in some sex-magic as well (and, in so doing, he’d get to have his first experience as well in the process, with an extra-special intense orgasm, also which Duncan would promise him), may have helped tip the balance for him into saying yes. He also wouldn’t have engaged in the nasty monologue and all the huff-and-puff about how strong he is, Kyle suffering emotional pain, his nature as a villain, the scorpion fable, etc., etc.
        Nice thought though.

        • Saxon_Brenton

          Unfortunately I’m not sure that would be true. Intellectually Kyle may have been willing to agree to whatever magic ritual would have been necessary, but when he’s in superhero mode Kyle has come across as canny enough to be suspecting a trick. So emotionally or even subconsciously he may not have met the conditions of ‘total trust’ that Anni says were needed for this spell. Which means Anni would have to trick Kyle in lust-addled hormonal adolescent mode instead.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, then Duncan could still have “lured” him with his simple promises of good first-time sex and affection, and someone whom he could engage in it with without destroying in the process, etc. (all of which he did), but he still would not have engaged in or resorted to all the negativities afterwards – he could have explained what had happened or was happening, and in a comforting and re-assuring tone, full of concern and compassion, as had appeared (at least) to be present during their initial intimacy. He would also be promising to protect him at all costs, and not frightening him further with lines such as (paraphrasing) – your inability to speak might just be what keeps you alive, etc.

          • Duncan may have had to slip into cold Annihilator mode to deal with what was coming and unable to be as warm and considerate as needed.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Though I agree it’s a nice and pleasant idea, there’s a lot of wishful thinking and Duncan-apologizing going on. Lot of excuses for his behavior being postulated in order to rationalize this.

          • Yes and no. We most likely accept a lot of crap in our fiction because of the whole rape culture we have going on. Yes, Duncan is an asshole. I get that. He’s a villain, he’s taken Kyle’s control away, he’s used him, manipulated him. It’s screwed up. And in real life I’d want to see him rot.

            But at this point in time, I’m wanting to look at this as fantasy, that the rules of the world Alex has presented are different. If I can’t do that, if this becomes my flying snowman — http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/12/11/the-flying-snowman/ — then I think for me there is no point in reading the comic. Stories aren’t always roses. Sometimes they suck the soul out of a person, sometimes I think they need to do that. It’s our choice to join the ride or exit stage left.

            Alex is telling a very intense, and heartbreaking, story at the moment and I’m trusting him to steer this crazy crazy ride out of this rough terrain in a manner that is satisfying.

            Maybe I can’t understand, that’s fine, I wouldn’t ever dream of saying I could. I’m just trying to enjoy the ride.

          • Steven Klimecky

            I wish I had your kind of hope right now – I truly do. Maybe I’m comparing things too much to real life – where things for some of us never really work out. (Though I am truly disturbed by that “rape culture” you spoke of, fantasy or not – same way I am disturbed by guys who have fantasies of having their testicles or penises sliced off, or raped and “gifted” with HIV, or those who get off on the idea of murdering and dismembering people – all very true for a number of real people on this planet.) But I realize that even extreme fantasies are just a matter of personal taste. As far as the current situation goes, “in a manner that is satisfying” is the key. I just think it’s becoming more and more of a monumental task with each new page making such steering more and more difficult. I don’t want to doubt anyone’s literary brilliance, however. I hope I’m truly surprised, in the end, in a positive way, instead of all the surprises so far being so dark and insidious and, as you say, “soul-sucking” (I have my life for that – don’t need the fantasies to help). I have another “check”/donation reserved for Alex IF he manages to pull this off in a way or with an ending or final result that IS satisfying to me, though my criteria may be steeper now, at this point (cuz god knows I’d love to feel happy AND satisfied by the end). But it would take an awful lot more to provide a course that gets to that place now, given the waters that have lately already been traversed.

          • It has been dark this road Alex is traveling and normally I’m not into angst. I deal with enough angst in real life. BUT there is something about this story that pulls at me and I want to see where it goes. Will it pain me to see no redemption, you betcha, but I’m going to let hope float and sail along.

          • But BOTH of you are completely right. The joy of this (or any) art form is that you, the viewer, get to take away from it whatever you choose. Just as Alex gets to share exactly what he chooses until such a point as he wins you BOTH over with the entirely unexpected turn… or he closes one of the many doors and loses one of you as a reader/viewer.

            You are both correct however, in that you get to choose the scenario that brings you the most enjoyment until Alex makes one or more of the possible routes… impossible. Remember, there are many options still open. Two are:

            1) Option Rose Petals: Duncan is redeemed and ends up completing his love-romp with boy Kyle and showing him what makes his eyes roll back in his head… the GOOD way.

            OR…

            2) Operation Pitchfork in Dat Ass: Whereupon Duncan get a horrible humiliating and painful comeuppance.

            Today? Both options still be wiiiiide open… Alex????

            Enjoy. 🙂

          • You are, of course, correct, oh wise one. 🙂

          • Ah Admiral, you are so kind… and I’m framing the “wise one” bit. I think that’s a first for me, and it might be a last… so I’m going to capture that sucker for sure.

            I’ve bounced back and forth on this issue since Dunc’s betrayal. Obviously I’m gay, so I deeply relate with Steve, and some of the other’s, feelings about Duncan’s actions toward Kyle. I’m sure the reactions of the fans would have been very individualized, depending on the victim. What if the Commander had been targeted and sexually violated because she was a woman and in ways that took advantage of female vulnerabilities? For some of us who have been commenting so emotionally, it’s because Kyle is such a virginal closeted GAY innocent. So the pain feels just as intimate and valid.

            Alternately, perhaps a man of color such as Fluke or Tsunami? What if the situation and spell had been designed to take full advantage of Tsunami’s obvious gay fears. I might argue that being tied to a bed with thingy rubbing might be even more devastating. Is that a redeemable act? A very different rape certainly, but no less invasive. This spell seems to need trust to power it, some require pain, others other emotions. Okay, what about the underage Flyboy and a peodophilic super villain situation? Would we expect Fly to face rape and adversity so that adversity will help him become stronger as a real hero one day? Ironically, historically, being 15 was considered adulthood. While not acceptable today, one can see the arguments that could be endlessly debated from both sides. So if this spell is powered by violated trust… what would that spell be powered by? And what would we want for Duncan (or whomever) after that act?

            I promise I’m not trying to ask an imflamatory trick question, but rather a real one. One that I was thinking about a lot when I started to compare and contrast my personal emotional reaction to Kyle’s situation and Duncan’s acts… and what of my emotions were gay-centric? To be honest, I think I may have more questions than answers.

            So for those of us who can personally feel the gay pain and vulnerability in Kyle’s situation it is very very hard not to react strongly to the suggestion that this ‘adversity’ is for his own future good or that there is/isn’t some future in which Duncan can be forgiven… tricky subtle stuff. Who knows?

            And finally, arguing that this is not Real Life… cuts both ways. One can claim reprehensible acts are forgivable in an AU because we wish it so. But, then think it through. Where is the AU ethical line. Is everything okay? Or is there an invisible line that is personal to each reader? And is “ethical, forgivable, human” behavior, even applicable in an AU world like Young Protectors when we say that something “doesn’t count” because it’s not RL and they are not human… so all bets are off? And anything goes?

            Honestly, I don’t know the answers here as we sit in Chapter two. If our navigator, Alex, was less smart and ethical than he is, I’m pretty sure I’d be getting off this boat. But, I’m seriously trusting and I’m way too fascinated to see how we’re going to get to our destination. And indeed, even what dimension that “destination” will be in?

            Congratulations to Steven and to our good Admiral for keeping a really complex, very volatile and very interesting conversation going in such a civil and respectful way. My hat is off to both of you. This, more than anything to me, is why being part of a serial art work is so captivating. That and the fact that Alex and his team makes it so.

            Thank you very much, Alex.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, congrats to YOU, Chris D., for (again) giving such a brilliant commentary. Though maybe I’m biased, since, once more, I feel pretty much EXACTLY the same way concerning near everything you wrote above. I’m so glad that there is someone else out there who seems to be able, when I don’t have the time or the abilities, to put into well-measured and totally well-thought-out terms, all of what are also my OWN thoughts and feelings on this matter. And again, it gives me some comfort to know that there is someone else out there who is going through all my own pains and sufferings (right there along with Kyle) in reaction to what he is going through and being forced to endure. It doesn’t mitigate the pain and hurt or make it go away, but it does make it somewhat more easy to deal with. The old cliche comes to mind: “misery loves company”.

          • You are very much correct and wise-one stands.

            I have been thinking about this myself. What if Kyle were female, how would I feel? I don’t know if I would have stuck around if that were so. I have read many, many romance novels where it was the woman being subjected to abuses and betrayals of all sorts and always expected to forgive the perpetrator because he was the hero and she the lowly female. Rage over such things is very familiar to me and there are authors I will not read because of these stories, despite it only being a story, a fantasy. So I offer my apologies. I do believe I was showing my privilege as a straight person in regard to this story.

            I admit, I’ve been avoiding going too deeply into the reality of the situation, partly because my own hot button hadn’t been completely pushed, most likely because Kyle isn’t Kyla. Which is not cool. Power and autonomy were taken and that is never good regardless of who it happens to.

            I’ve been used and hell if I know if I’ve ever gotten over it. Being 18 (at the time) and desperate for a relationship, for an intimate connection with another, makes one ripe for such things. I wonder if there is a sign over our heads pointing the assholes of the world our way.

            It did hurt to see Duncan completely betray Kyle. Even when I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, it took me by surprise and… The first time I saw the page where he cast that spell, my heart was in my throat, my stomach knotted with pain, and I think if the rest of the story had not been so compelling, if I hadn’t been so invested to see what was happening, I probably would have left.

            But I waited for the next page, and the next. I got involved in the community, which made it easier to wait to see what was going to happen. I wanted the explanation. I needed the explanation, the why. And eventually, probably because of the community, because I’ve been able to throw out thoughts and theories, to communicate with all the others affected by the story, that it allowed some of that pain and confusion to flow out. It allowed me to don a wait and see outlook, to find pleasure in an intense and emotional story when normally I would not. It allowed me to hope that maybe there was a good reason for everything, that Alex had a plan, even though by rights there could never really be a good reason for such inflicted pain.

            I mentioned the rape culture that infiltrates our society, and it’s ugly to look at. It’s easy to just say: oh, it’s fantasy, it’s not real. And some of it is just not wanting to always deal with what is real, not wanting reality to affect the fantasy because reality often stinks. I’m guilty of that, I admit it.

            But I do want the explanation. I liked Duncan, even knowing that something was a bit off. I want to forgive him for all sorts of reason. Maybe some of it is societal conditioning, women are expected to forgive, to stay, to accept it, to not speak out when something is wrong. And so I wait and hope, maybe make some excuses, because I want some sort of HEA, even if it’s just parting as friends. I like romances. I write romances. So I wait and hope. I attempt to trust Alex to know what he’s doing with his own story.

            You’re right, our reactions are all individualized, we all have our triggers, our hot buttons. So if my words or actions cause/d hurt, I never intended such, would never intend such.

          • Steven Klimecky

            That’s a pretty brilliant response and realization too, Admiral. I desperately hope that Alex happens to read it and Chris D.’s above, to which you were replying, of all those concerning this and related pages. I think they just may be the 2 most important comments here.

          • It’s not always easy putting down such thoughts. I don’t always want to examine things too closely, the why of things. I think sometimes that’s where a lot of misunderstandings come from. Folks don’t always want to look behind the curtain. Especially when someone is enjoying the story.

          • You are the awesome. All I wanted to communicate is that we all respond so personally to good work… and this is GOOD work. I agree with you so much also… MAYBE IT’S TIME TO FORM — TEAM IMPOSSIBLE — where everyone is redeemed, everyone finds some so excellent lovin’ and everyone lives happily every after — except that funky eyeball. I DO NOT WANT TO MEET MRS. BALL. Just sayin’ nor the little balls.. that just makes me think about too many creepy things… again… just sayin’

            And if that makes me an eyeball bigot well that’s just TOO bad! (I’ll suck it up and march in the giant eyeball rights parade in Manhattan next year).

          • Team Impossible for the win!

            It is very good work. That this comic enthralls so many different folks is amazing. And I’ve loved each minute of it, even when I haven’ loved each minute of it.

            Hey! Eyeballs deserve love too! Even if it is creepy. Soo very very creepy. I’m sure Mrs Ball is quite…er..lovely. and the little balls… Down with giant eyeballs! 😛

            PS – As for being awesome, I may have to frame that the same why you plan to frame wise one.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Some combination of these would be even more satisfying, as implausible at that may be.

          • True that.

          • SofiaT

            Well said. 🙂

          • Thank you. 🙂

          • And I think that’s totally reasonable I just think the D-apologizers should form a reasonable cue and visit him at super villain prison for conjugal visits. Win win. Yes?

          • Adam Black

            yes

          • Steven Klimecky

            He could have gone into “cold Anni mode” after the magical explosive trans-dimensional teleportation and upon encountering whatever adversity he’d need to steel himself against. And a promise to Kyle that he’ll protect him at all costs wouldn’t be too difficult.

          • Again, I think that he would never have fully gained Kyle’s trust to do what needed doing. Which is why, he might have been the only one willing to do what he did, and why the heroes were unwilling to take the chance. I just don’t think he could have gone with the truth in this matter, not even at this point either. Plus it’s possible that he doesn’t truly trust anyone but himself to help him with this.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Still – awfully big leaky life-boat you are paddling in and bailing out there with all that. More power to you, I guess.

          • Which was my thinking as well. How would Kyle trust a villain saying: “hey, to save the universe I need to bind you down and then you have to keep perfectly quiet while I take us to this other dimension.”? I don’t think it would’ve worked that way.

          • Steven Klimecky

            He trusted that a villain would behave non-villainously in all the other ways that Duncan promised him he would behave. Kyle was already willing to trust a villain (or “former” villain, or “not-so-much villain-as-anarchist”, etc.) to begin with.

          • To a point I think. It’s like Saxon up there said, there may have been a bit of doubt if he told him the flat out truth. It’s still shitty, but it’s a possibility.

        • Tina

          Yeah… I know… but hey people do stupid things all the time. Half the world’s problems could be solved if people were just honest with each other about their problems. *desperate pailing out water of sinking ship*

      • Right, exactly. Granted Kyle would still have the urge to deck him, but eventually he might understand.

        • Tina

          Naturally. Like Sherlock and Watson. It might have been for a good cause but that’s not gonna stop Sherlock getting the beating he deserves.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Where in all the various S.H, literature did Holmes ever get a deserved “beating” from Dr. Watson (or much of anyone else, save possibly his brother Mycroft)? He even escaped death and Dr. Moriarty.

          • Tina

            I was referring to the BBC show where every is anticipating Watson is going to punch Sherlock for making everyone believe he was dead

    • Amanda

      Then happy naked fun time thingy rubbing could resume?

      • Of course. We’ll return to our regularly schedules thingy smushing after this not so brief break.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Yeah, like my membrum weirilis is going to grow 12 inches in the next 12 days as well. I guess hope DOES spring eternal in a lot of y’all.

          • Adam Black

            “my membrum weirilis is going to grow 12 inches”

            um what?

          • Steven Klimecky

            A Latin, somewhat euphemistic, phrase for the male copulatory organ – basically the “male member” or “member of man”, although I prob. should have verified the spelling – it might possibly be “weirilus”, though it looks/sounds correct with the “i”. Any Latin scholars out there feel free to correct me.

          • Adam Black

            when you said 12 inches I assumed it was plant in your yard.

      • Tina

        Technically speaking, Duncan has yet to take Kyle’s V-Card. Maybe they could do that AND THEN go their separate ways *nods nods*

        • Steven Klimecky

          First time for intercourse and first time having sex can be different. I think if you are completely naked with another person together, lying on top of one-another, and rubbing genitals together to the point of orgasm, that counts as sex, and Kyle is not a sexual virgin anymore, though he still may be said to be a virgin to one or another type of intercourse.

          • And rose petals… why does everyone keep forgetting the rose petals?

        • Denise Cruz

          Do you know what I think is really funny in this entire situation?!
          Kyle was the one left in bed with… unfinished ‘business’… (let’s call this way.)
          However, WE are still complaining about it! XD
          The poor kid didn’t even look like he’s cient of it, yet… and we are almost having heart attacks all over the world…lol

          I’m not saying this is wrong. I was the first one calling all the ugliest names you could imagine and others you wouldn’t…. (I still do it, occasionally…lol)

      • A+ for Focus! Yeah!

      • And again that astonishing focus. We are NOT worthy! LOL. Right on! I’m sailing on Amada’s ship.

        • Amanda

          My laser like focus is driven by a dry spell that come November will be 5 years deep. If I’m not doing it I am damn well going to enjoy other people doing it.

          • Condolences on the five years and RIGHT ON regarding enjoying others! Take care!

    • Denise Cruz

      It would be amazing! But, isn’t Duncan an anarchist?! So, I suppose he’d like some crazy guy who wants to destroy whatever it was.

      Although, the entire universe is a little too much, isn’t?! O.o

      Anyway, how would he’d discovered such a thing?! And why didn’t he asked for help, if he really wanted to stop this to happen? Everyone would’ve helped with that! ( if he could prove, the veracity of the situation, of course!)

      • Well, maybe no one else was willing to do what he did? And maybe that was the only way to stop it before it even happened? And it’s possible no one would listen to him because he was a villain and all the heroes would be all: It’s a trap!

        It was just a crazy thought. I think there is just so many threads binding this together, I thought I would throw this one out there.

        • Denise Cruz

          Am I stupid for keep trying to find out some explanation that makes both of them end up together?! i.i

          • Nah. It’s part of the fun. For me, it’s not so much if they end up together, but of wanting to see Duncan redeemed.

          • Denise Cruz

            For me, one thing leads to another. ‘Cause I can’t see them together if Duncan isn’t honest and good for that boy.
            I think they deserve it. They already had a lot of suffering at life. Each one on his own way.
            (But, as I already said once, I’m a damn romantic person! lol)

          • I’m a romantic myself. My reading preferences have always leaned to the romantic, ever since I could remember: horses and romance. Now mostly romance.

            Now, if Duncan is redeemed, I’d like to see a lot of grovelling from him. I’d like to see Kyle angry at him for a good while. Then I think it can go back to it being complicated superhero and supervillain dating. 😀

          • Denise Cruz

            Agreed! That’s exactly what I had thought, too! Doesn’t it sound great?! (happy feeling) ^v^ sighs

          • Yes, yes it does.

          • Steven Klimecky

            Hell, as pessimistic as I am right now, I’d definitely put in hearty “Ditto!” to that. It’s what I’d love to see, but trying to not let myself be too optimistic about that, lest I be too surprised again in a negative way and my heart be crushed or broken again if I allow it that kind of hope. It just seems like such a huge task now, given what has so-far occurred. Believe it or not, I’m with y’all concerning being the “hopeless romantic” type, though I’m truly/literally without much hope at the moment regarding the turnaround – but, like I said elsewhere, it’s kind of a defense mechanism. And, Admiral J., what you mention in your second paragraph above – “Now if Duncan …..supervillain dating” – I agree and empathize with every word of that.

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh, the future always can bring us something good, my friend! Even when it doesn’t look like that! ^v^

            BTW: I don’t know what means this ‘Ditto’ word… (Sorry! My first language is Portuguese, so, somethings I still don’t know..)

          • Ditto means: Also, likewise, too, similarly

            1. Used in accounts and lists to indicate that an item is repeated (often indicated by ditto marks under the word or figure to be repeated)

            2. Used to indicate that something already said is applicable a second time

            3. A similar thing; a duplicate

          • Denise Cruz

            Oh! Thank you very much!!
            I had never heard about it, before coming to these pages… ^v^
            It’s like a little signal we use on Portuguese ( ” ). Same functions!
            Thank you for helping me! It was very nice form you! ^^

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yes – actually the (“) symbol you mention is what we here call the “ditto marks” that A.J. mentioned.

          • Denise Cruz

            That’s so nice! I love learning new things! Even more when I had no idea I would! ^v^
            Thanks!!

          • We use that same symbol as well.

            In school we used to have ditto pages, which always smelled horrible, but they were just copies run off on ditto machines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator). This was before copy machines came in.

          • Denise Cruz

            In Portuguese we named that machine as ‘mimiógrafo’!! ^v^
            But I liked the smell of alcohol! ^v^

          • Some dittos smelled better than others. Probably the different inks or how long they’d been in the machine.

          • Denise Cruz

            It could also be the material used on it. Each place has a different costum, I think.

            Anyway, I’m going to sleep right now… Have a nice week! SEe you tomorrow! ^v^

          • Good night!

          • Denise Cruz

            Good night! ^v^

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yes – the “ditto machine” is known as the “mimiograph” here as well, which has now been replaced, of course, with the photocopier and the “Xerox” process. I think some people still call photocopiers “xerox machines”.

          • Denise Cruz

            Yes! Someplaces here still call it this way! ^v^
            Well, right now, I’m going to sleep. 01:00 AM, here and I need to work at 07:00 AM.
            Have a great week.
            I see you tomorrow! (I hope! )

          • Steven Klimecky

            Yes – the “ditto machine” is known as the “mimeograph” here as well, which has now been replaced, of course, with the photocopier and the “Xerox” process. I think some people still call photocopiers “xerox machines”.

          • Steven Klimecky

            A “Ditto” is a “copy” – to say “Ditto!” to something is to say “I copy that”, or, in essence, I feel the same way, or I have the same thoughts – or, I would have said the same thing, etc.

          • Denise Cruz

            Thank you very much!!
            It was completely new for me. I had never heard about it and I like learning very much!
            Thank you for your help! It was very nice! ^v^

        • Adam Black

          Kyle would have helped.

          • Well, maybe if he had asked over the wine. Another glass of the stuff and it all possibly would have seemed logical

          • Adam Black

            I want some

          • Wine? Would this all make sense then?

          • Adam Black

            for a little while

          • I wish I liked wine. It always tastes like grape juice in my dreams, too bad not in real life.

          • Adam Black

            keep sampling.

            i bet dandylion is great

          • Did not know wine was made from dandelions.

      • SofiaT

        Being an anarchist isn’t a bad thing per se. Anarchism is a legit ideology, that rejects the current authority. The name itself means “against authority” -although people tend to confuse it my terrorism.
        Of course, anarchism is all about personal freedom and being against coercion of any kind. So I’m not sure if Duncan is really an anarchist or only in name.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Yep – sure makes me wish he really was – and truly against coercion. Then poor Kyle wouldn’t be in this situation in fear and anger and emotional turmoil.

        • Denise Cruz

          Well said.
          Maybe he isn’t, after all. Maybe he just wants more money or more power or keep being young and strong, once he said he’s nothing if not strong…
          I don’t know. He’s so hard to understand… Always controversial…lol

        • I think he just wants to be able to do what he wants to do without someone telling him he can’t do it because down with THE MAN, yo.

          • Adam Black

            im not convinced hes an anarchist.
            I think hes just a thoughtful criminal.

          • Only so far in the sense he doesn’t want to be told what to do. Or in the sense that there wouldn’t be any laws for him to break. Oh hey, I suppose that last one does make him thoughtful.

            “Kyle, I’m being thoughtful here binding you, otherwise that thing might eat you.” 😛

          • Adam Black

            That is what he said, basically.

          • I suppose it is. He just forgot the lover’s caress in his voice

          • Steven Klimecky

            So far you’d seem to be correct.

          • Adam Black

            Me thinks kyle can teleport to and from hell , too

        • Adam Black
          • SofiaT

            I think my mind might explode if I try to read/play this o.O

          • Adam Black

            Occupy Goblin-Paris!

        • Adam Black

          Occupy HellRealm!

      • WarGoddess

        Hey Denise! I posted that picture you wanted me to draw up on my DA page! Here’s the link! I hope you like it! XD

        http://wargoddess92.deviantart.com/art/What-if-404233028

        • SofiaT

          Anni still has a great butt! 😛

          I was expecting them to be wearing their own uniforms, but I like what you did there 🙂

          • WarGoddess

            Haha, thanks! I played around with the idea of keeping them in their original uniforms, but thought that if older villain Kyle would have a chance against young hero Duncan, he would have to have the powers of invulnerability, super strength, yada yada or else he wouldn’t be able to intimidate Duncan at all. Then I thought, “Well, if their powers are switched, it doesn’t make sense for older villain Kyle to still be wearing a suit covered in flames, now does it? So I essentially just switched around the bodies and ages. XD

        • Adam Black

          blocked.

      • Adam Black
    • SofiaT

      Why is that a crazy thought?

      • Well, for some it might be. I like the idea personally. It holds a certain logic for me and would be a bit out of left field.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Regardless of his motivations or excuses, he’s STILL being a jackass! :/

      • Never thought he wasn’t being one. He is a villain after all. Or if my theory is correct, the anti-hero

        • Adam Black

          Depends. Antivillains are often “villains” with good motivations, while antiheroes are heroes that are either neurotic to total jerk-asses with possible bad motivations.

          I think Duncan presented himself completely as an antivillain. If you still think he is doing good, but is a total douche than he could be an anti-hero. Hunter and KIller are closer to 90s antiheroes.

          • Indeed, you are correct. He is more the antivillain than the antihero. Although I always saw and antihero being dragged kicking a screaming into saving folks cause it’s not their problem

          • Adam Black

            thats one version.

            I think of Luke Spencer as a classic antihero, although he was twisted into Hero for a few wild seasons. ( RIGHT AFTER raping the heroine )

          • Luke Spencer? Wait, he was from that one soap?

            I was thinking more the guy from the Sandman Slim novels by Richard Kadrey. He just wanted to kill the guys who sent him to hell (literally) and killed his girl, but he ends up saving the world.
            http://www.amazon.com/Sandman-Slim-Novel-Richard-Kadrey/dp/0061714356/

          • Adam Black

            yup.

          • That was classic romance fodder during that time. Supposed hero rapes heroine, but she had never known sex could be so good and so fell in lurve and they lived happily ever after.

            Edit: I highly recommend the Sandman Slim books.

      • Steven Klimecky

        He’s being nasty, evil, egotistical, heartless, sociopathic scum to the scummiest degree – I don’t think I really have the words for what he’s being – but it goes WAY beyond just “jackass”.

    • WarGoddess

      I like it! I can see the headlines now:
      Evil villain saves the world, traumatizes innocent hero in the process! Has the world’s most dangerous supervillain turned good? Let’s find out!
      Interviewer: So, Mr. Annihilator sir! Have you had a change of heart?
      The Annihilator: Of course not! Why would you come up with that rubbish? I’m the world’s most dangerous supervillain! I’m the only one with enough power to vanquish those foes, and someone had to do it. If they had attacked us all and destroyed the Earth, I wouldn’t be the most dangerous supervillain of anything, now would I?

      Interviewer: Red Hot, can you tell us what it was like to be the center of gravity in this brilliant yet slightly evil plan?
      Red Hot: It was like…being brought to hell…fire…fire was…everywhere…claws…giant eyeball…*whimpers, then runs off to curl up in the fetal position over in a corner somewhere*

      Lol XD

      • Denise Cruz

        Oh… Poor little reddish baby! (cradling the kid on my lap)

      • That’s about it. Love the interview! Poor Kyle. And Anni is now an anti-hero.

        • Steven Klimecky

          Yeah – along the line of what I still believe is Alex’s plan (from all he’s said), Kyle still needs to be the total hero in the end, even more than a wishfully redeemed and world-saving Duncan might be – so I suspect Kyle to have more of an overt and active (rather than simply passive) role in that world-saving than we can imagine right now.

          • Oh I’m expecting Kyle to rescue Duncan from this mess. And then he can be: In your face! And the grovelling can commence.

          • Adam Black

            So you are saying Kyle has to be top or a powerbottom?

        • Adam Black
          • I like how they mentioned that there is a sliding scale. 😛

            I guess you learn something every day.

          • Adam Black

            The tropes are never complete

          • That… no wonder it never lets you leave.

          • Adam Black

            How did *you* get out ?

            I was certain youd be there for months.
            My evil plan ruined!

          • A trail of coffee beans.

          • Adam Black

            roast away

          • Did that today.

          • Adam Black

            lucky

          • A lovely one from Costa Rica.

          • Adam Black

            what was his name?

          • I wish. Do you know how long… never mind.

            I actually meant coffee. I’m roasting Yirgacheffe today.

      • Steven Klimecky

        Except Kyle needs to end up stronger than that in the end from all this, as traumatized as he may still be as well. He needs to lean over, grab the microphone and say “Old Anni’s plan wouldn’t have meant shit if it wasn’t for me!”

        • WarGoddess

          Of course he’ll end up stronger in the end! It’s just that if I were him, I would be a bit of an emotional wreck after being put through something like this, at least until some close friends talked me through it and I realized the lessons this experience taught me. From what I’ve seen, the truly great heroes don’t reach their full potential until after they have been through a tragic situation and come to terms with the fact that what’s done is done and is in the past. They learn from their mistakes and grow individually. You see, the thing that happened when he was younger, that didn’t really teach him anything other than to never jerk off again. So, our little hero needs something to traumatize him, at least a little bit, so that way he can learn. 😀

          • Steven Klimecky

            Well, a number of points I agree with. I’m also worried that THESE particular events he’s being put through will make him an emotional wreck, given the nature of the situation and how it is happening, and his past issues with sex and sexuality – I’m having difficulty figuring out how this won’t leave poor Kyle even more emotionally scarred and unable to let go in a sexual situation, or to even trust anyone with intimacy (or anything else) ever again. Also, I’m not sure anyone, including even Kyle NEEDS to be traumatized to learn and grow. Yeah, some adversities may teach us lessons, make us more empathetic people, and build up our inner strength or strength of character, etc., but some events of significantly horrendous nature, can lead people into all kinds of downward spirals – substance abuse, depression, suicide, etc. People are still able to learn and grow without experience things things that devastate them. I think “traumatize…at least a little bit” is an oxymoron. Maybe “tested” at least a little bit. However, I’d say this situation goes way beyond low-grade testing, This has the potential to be TRULY traumatic. It will have to be up to Alex skill to find a BELIEVABLE way that he can be able to get through this AND be able to deal with this mentally and emotionally and psychologically. I think he has another huge task on his hands now – just as big as being able to theoretically (as is hoped for many here) find a believable and satisfying way in which Duncan can be ever be redeemed after committing such dire and horrendous and potentially traumatizing acts on poor, sweet, innocent Kyle.

          • WarGoddess

            Oops, I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have used the word traumatized, it’s pretty drastic. It’s more like he needs to go through some emotional turmoil, then learn from it. I didn’t mean to sound so heartless.

          • Adam Black

            I don’t think kyle is the only one traumatized.

            Just say no to the comics code. Drastic is just fine.

          • WarGoddess

            Yay! And…comics code? What’s the comics code?

          • Adam Black

            propaganda and self-censorship:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority

            ” CCA prohibited the presentation of “policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions …in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority.”

            But
            it added the requirements that “in every instance good shall triumph
            over evil” and discouraged “instances of law enforcement officers dying as a result of a criminal’s activities.”

            Specific restrictions were
            placed on the portrayal of kidnapping and concealed weapons. Depictions of “excessive violence” were forbidden, as were “lurid, unsavory, gruesome illustrations.” Vampires, werewolves, ghouls and zombies could not be portrayed.

            In addition, comics could not us, the words “horror” or “terror” in their titles. …..the CCA was much more precise: depictions of “sex perversion”, “sexual abnormalities”, and “illicit sex relations” as well as seduction, rape, sadism, and masochism were specifically forbidden.

            In words echoing the Hollywood Production Code,love stories were enjoined to emphasize the “sanctity of marriage” and those portraying scenes of passion were advised to avoid stimulating
            “lower and baser emotions.” ….

          • WarGoddess

            I see. Thanks for giving me that definition! 😀

          • Adam Black

            Its a list of 50’s rules that tell you what to break to make a story interesting.

          • Thank you Adam, that is the most horrifyingly fascinating thing I’ve read in ages… I loved all of the 1954 list of ‘Thou shalt nots…’ but #8 was extra special. Basically removing everything that makes reading comics worth while.

            #8 “All scenes of horror, excessive bloodshed, gory or gruesome crimes, depravity, lust, sadism, masochism shall not be permitted.”

            You learn the most amazing things here on this Disqus.

          • Adam Black

            It makes a great list in reverse how to write an interesting story.

          • OH YEAH! I’m so there.

          • Adam Black

            I think we are

          • Steven Klimecky

            Kyle ISN’T the only one traumatized – **I’M** feeling that way over the last several pages.

          • Adam Black

            well yeah.

            Its now a good vs evil hell adventure.

            Time to put away the romance hopes and focus on the Hero tropes.
            real kisses dont come ill the end.

          • Adam Black

            I am hoping he MUST masturbate in hell as a weapon.
            The Big Gun so to speak.

    • AliceVenturi

      This is my current favorite hypothesis. The giant eyeball kinda hints that there’s a third party involved in all of this. I’m willing to be persuaded I’m wrong, though.

      • I like this one myself. Not a great excuse, but an interesting reason.

    • If his motives were good in any way, it would make his little monologue to Kyle be very out of place. 🙁

      • I’m sure his motives would be quite self-serving actually. He would be saving the world for himself, but some good came of it. As for the monologue, not really out of place. He found himself liking Kyle, but he wasn’t going to let that get in his way. Does he feel some guilt, sure. Does he wish there would be another way, most likely. But he set out to do what he did and well, collateral damage. That doesn’t mean he won’t apologize and try to explain what he was doing. It would then be up to Kyle to forgive or not.

        I want them to work it out, but I’m not blind to Duncan’s faults.

        • But it would still present a justification that he could have given to Kyle. And he didn’t.

          • That’s true, but he might be waiting to see if he gets it done. He also might not trust anyone with what his true plan is so he doesn’t look weak. (What do you mean you’re saving the world? That’s what heroes do? You’re not turning hero on us, ARE YOU?) He may have even lied to PP. It’s also possible, that he didn’t think it would matter. It’s just a thought. One that on the surface makes these intense moments a little less intense?

        • SofiaT

          Duncan’t faults is what makes me ship them, preverse as this may sound. There are limits to my shipping them but those imits have nor been reached and now I seriously doubt they will.

          He never had me more worried than when he was sweet-talking him in bed, for a minute (or a page) he had me thinking that maybe he really is evil.

          Now I’m more relaxed.

          And a big YES to all of your comment.

          • Duncan’s faults are pretty much why I like him (other than dat ass). Some of my favorite horses were usually the biggest neurotic turds. He most likely doesn’t know how to be any other way. (that sounds bad)

    • Adam Black

      thats what they all say

      • They say a lot of things, sometimes it’s true. Just gotta hope they aren’t crying wolf.

        Which reminds me… http://oglaf.com/wolf/

        • Adam Black

          I miss Ivan

          • I wonder if he’s actually dead or still in that sleep?

        • Adam Black

          sounds like Duncan

  • WarGoddess

    Oh no no I meant that it wasn’t dark anymore where I’m at. When I first witnessed the page, it was around 1 in the morning when my alarm woke me up for the update, and I was half asleep, so my initial reaction was just shock and fear for Kyle and my thoughts weren’t very coherent, lol. 😀

    • Steven Klimecky

      Oh – that makes more sense now – lol – thanks for clarifying – cuz I was having those same reactions of shock and fear for MY little hero (I’m claiming him now since, in my opinion, Duncan just lost all rights to him, including the right to call him that). The recent escalation of potential dread and danger didn’t seem in any way bright or cheerful to me.

  • I’m sure there is some fanfiction that covers that.

    • Adam Black

      yeah. I think there are some fullblown pornos , too

      • I wouldn’t doubt that at all. Drawing a blank on titles. No, don’t answer that.

        • Adam Black

          Lord of the Ring,

          quest for the hobbit-hole

          • I did not need that image in my head.

          • Adam Black

            what?

            Did you make it a 3way with Gollum?

          • No, no, but now I did. 😐

            The one ring that binds them now has a different meaning.

          • Adam Black

            but it was always called “my precious”

          • And why they never wanted to share. “My own, my love, my precious.”

  • Oh, good, I’m glad that I am not the only one who was thinking that. 🙂

  • SofiaT

    Just woke up from an anaesthisia. Might be high. Not sure, never been high before. But that eye looks really funny now.

    • Did the test or what ever it was you had done go okay?

      • SofiaT

        It was a gastroscopy. Nothing serious it seems, although the doctor took some samples for biopsy too. May have to do a couple of more tests and I hope we get to the bottom of this soon, but I don’t think it’s anything to worry about. Just incredibly annoying >:(

        The whole day was very tiresome and a bit invasive -had never been admitted to a hospital before, your sense of privacy disappears!- but the sleeping part was fun. Woke up feeling rested and a bit giggly. 😛

        • Sounds more good than otherwise… FEEL BETTER and take care!

          • SofiaT

            Aye, aye Sir! 🙂

        • Well fingers crossed all is good. I wish I had felt giggly after I had my wisdom teeth out, instead I get slapped awake and an ice pack shoved against my face. 😛

          • SofiaT

            Ouch! That must have been quite the experience…

            Thanks for the interest AJ! I’m sure it’s nothing serious, I just want to be able to eat my mom’s spanakopita and tsourekia when I go home for Christmas. I will be very annoyed if I’m not!!

          • I of course wanted to slap them back because hey I was sleeping there,

            I lost a friend who had Crohn’s disease. I get a little worried when folks talk about stomach issues. And you’ve been fun to “hang out” with.

          • SofiaT

            Thanks, you too 🙂

            I’ll make sure I don’t drop dead or anything, it would really ruin my day if that happened 😛

          • Yeah, I really think that would spoil things. 🙂

        • KiannaLeigh

          I feel like I had one of those …. And yes, in the hospital there is no such thing as personal space or privacy. Doctors are ALL up in your business. But I suppose that’s a good thing. Hope you’re doing well.

          • SofiaT

            Thanks K! 🙂

        • I hope you’re feeling all better now, Sofia, and that you get to the bottom of things soon (and that it has an easy fix.) Your presence here is very much appreciated. 🙂

          • SofiaT

            Thank you Alex, you’re very kind 🙂

    • vessto

      I hope you are ok!!!

      • SofiaT

        I’m alright, no worries 🙂

  • Chula

    Did they just DIMENSION HOP?! Magic circles, constant flow of energy… my gamer sense is tingling!! Are they in some version of Hades?? *Mind is blown*

    • Ryan How

      Unless Duncan actually brought him to this strange hell place, but it was disguised as an ordinary warehouse on Earth. Maybe Kyle’s fire orgasm broke the illusion?

  • Cecilie Muldkjær Bredesen

    what just happend!! Am I the only one who don’t get what that eye is doing here or…..?

    but good story so far, you are keeping me coming back every week, just wanna know what happens……..

  • We seem to be a minority upon this page, but we are here. 😀 Of course, I can’t believe I just dated myself. 😛

  • Mentor Imvu

    Eye drops anyone?

  • SofiaT

    I actually felt quite giggly. Wasn’t so bad -the worst part was having to wait for the procedure while wearing that stupid hospital gown and the hair cap.

    Light blue does nothing for my complexion 😛

  • SofiaT

    In other news, holy hell the KHAOS kickstater exceeded 20,000 pounds!! That means we get a Kelly story and something with Steve’s dad. 😀

    This trully is a “holy hell!” week. First this page, and now Khaos.

    I’m so, so happy.

    Edit: go vote for Artifice & the YP on Top Web Comics and make me even happier! My birthday is in, um, 3 1/2 months, consider it an early birthday gift 😛

    • It’s climbing. At this writing YP is at 120 and Artifice is at 400

      • SofiaT

        😀

      • SofiaT

        It’s looking good now. At the moment YP is on #72 and Artifice is #130.

        AJ, I haven’t been here as often this week, still no sight of Motordog?

        • I haven’t seen him. I hope he’s okay.

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, me too :S

            …or that he is in a Carribean island with a hot boyfriend. I would excuse his absence then 😀

          • That is the only acceptable excuse. 😛

  • Klaus

    Tune in this Wednesday, when you will hear Duncan say: “Dad! I’m home.”

  • Kalynn Osburn

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that’s when things got surreal.

  • Simba Hutchison

    I somehow managed to forget to look here until Monday, and now I’m almost glad I did, because… What the hell ass balls is going on?!? @.@
    I haven’t read every single comment, but I think its safe to say that none of us predicted creepy Diablo-esque scenery with a giant disembodied eyeball.

    • Klaus

      That is eye ball. Hell eye ball.

    • KiannaLeigh

      “What the hell ass balls.” I’m gonna use that. XD

      • Simba Hutchison

        Glad to be of service, lol.

  • Onomatopoeia

    Maybe it’s just me, but I kinda like that Duncan turned out to be a douchebag.

    I mean, sure I feel bad for Kyle, but really the guy’s a supervillain. It would have just been too corny if he were legitimately nice.

  • MaddBookish

    Oh … hell …

  • AliceVenturi

    “Grandmother, what big eyes you have!”

    Or something to that effect. Giant eyeball in a hellish inferno? Pretty cool, Mr. Woolfson, pretty darn cool!

  • Adam Black

    But he wanted to! little more courtage on Sams part would have made it less of a tease.

  • Adam Black

    Spike got his soul back.

    • I’m confused, Duncan DIDN’T get his soul back? Or… He’s a vamp? Or? Hmmmm… Okay… Soulless ninja super villain virgin gay lusting vampire robot?

      Did I win? Huh? Huh?

      • Oh baby, you’ve gone and won it alllll!

      • Adam Black

        One willowVampbot coming up

  • Ikaru Sentinal-K’Valshar

    Wow. It’s like all Hell broke loose.

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    Shades of Doctor Who….#11 Matt Smith came up against a “creature” that was no more than a huge eye ball that tried to destroy him and all of civilization….but the creature was not strong enough to do so and fled.
    Yes it is Monday afternoon…..my weekend was way too busy!

    • Adam Black

      You mean the Atraxi ( assuming you are a WhobieNewbie )
      http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Atraxi

      If you are ole’SchooleyWhobey you could mean any number of whobey-ghooleys, including Ambassador Alpha Centauri ‘s species

      ( http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha_Centauri)

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        My early viewing of Doctor Who was limited as it was on “public” Television…..sponsored of course by the BB….the Atraxi is the creature I was trying to remember. Thank you.

        • Adam Black

          As was all of our viewing in the USA,
          ( on PBS )

          But eventually after 1985 PBS in Boston bought the full rights up through number 6.

          You know Torchwood ands Sarah Jane adventures are also full Dr who Cannon right?

        • Adam Black

          You probably havent even seen #5 Peter Davison.
          Those were my favorite. ( youtube? netflix? )

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        BTW I have been watching Doctor Who on a steady basis since Doctor’s 9th incarnation and they are now set to bring forth the 12th Doctor….I hope you will be able to watch the season.

        • Adam Black

          gotta get my TV fixed.

  • KiannaLeigh

    I had an awkward moment today when I realized the main reason I care about this scene being explained is to find out what’s up with that giant eyeball. … I swear I care about the plot too! But that eyeball! >_< It's bugging me!

  • KiannaLeigh

    Nooooo! Not Spike! Please, any vampire but Spike!

  • Rae Goldberg

    O.o Da Funk?

  • Timni16

    …im pretty sure the moon is not suppose to be an eyeball…

    • Denise Cruz

      Oh! We all wish it wasn’t… but, Alex… Well, you know! lol

      • Oh come on! Alex is being a portrait in restraint(s)… it could be a giant squishy ROBOT NINJA eyeball.

        For Alex this is almost a gentle bedtime story… 🙂

        • The eternal night is still young. And everything is better with ninjas.

          • LOL. WOG if ever there was one!

          • Steven Klimecky

            In response to this being “an almost gentle bedtime story” for Alex, he responds that the night is still young. Awful sense of foreboding in that – is he saying that there’s plenty of time tonight for things to get a whole lot less “gentle” than they have been??? If that’s the case, I’d have to expect there’s all kinds of sexual and bodily torture and hellish manipulations (the likes of which I don’t even want to begin imagining, let alone watching) at the hands …tentacles … or detached retinas – of various hellish entities great and small.

          • Adam Black

            and if kyle has to swim naked, you just know it will be in pools of blood.

            ( *thinks for a minute* )

            Fresh Blood is a very pretty red. Im OK with it.

          • *thinks* Yeahhh, me too.

          • Adam Black

            Artifice cross-over, pretty please?

  • Besinfection

    That eyeball is seriously messing with me.
    Also, really glad Duncan is still a bad guy. Would have been kinda boring if the story had ended there.

  • amanda

    I’m not sure why but this just popped into my head. Kyle will probably remain a virgin forever now I mean how traumatic is this? Everything was going good nice an romantic just getting good and on his birthday for goodness sakes! then BAM!! He ends up in some weird ritual thing and all he wanted to do was get laid….
    And here is another thought that just popped into my weird brain. You know how some guys like to talk about their first time or their first fling… Kyle can’t really do that if he gets out of this situation. I mean for 1 it was with a super villain and really didn’t go any were but nakedness and 2 how do you explain how you went from having sex to some weird ritual without people thinking you are some wacko????
    POOR KYLE!!!!!
    DAMN YOU DUNCAN I TRUSTED YOU TOO!!!!!

    • Steven Klimecky

      I sure do agree with all that!!!!! (Except I’d say it went a little beyond nakedness – in that it did result in one hyper-intense indescribably powerful orgasm, that went on and on, with magically hyper-extended and increased pleasure, physically at least, amidst the emotional pain and turmoil poor Kyle is dealing with.)

    • LOL!!!

      “Nooo dude, I’m telling you the sh*t was f*cked up… no srsly! Listen, I was going for second BASE. NO! For reals. I do not lie. I wrapped my arm around her shoulder and… you… know… I did that classic yawn… No honestly, my bro told me that chicks ALWAYS fall for the old yawn… andoverthehoulderreach… cause they secretly want it.. right? SHUT UP, I AM NOT A PIG. My big brother told me this. ANYWAY (SHUT IT) I’m reaching around and I think I’m going to just gently cop me a feel of some fine boobage and the sh*t feels a little squishy… I KNOW! SQUISHY. Look I was a little nervous too, so I could understand her perspiring a little, but this felt super wierd… well anyway… I look over her shoulder, you know, where I expected to see this super fine boobage just ready for my hand and GUESS WHAT!!!!!

      IT WAS LIKE A GIANT SUPER GINORMOUS ELDRITCH EYBALL. No dude! For reals. Like a floating EYBALL as big as… well just super fricking big. Well I’m not ashamed to say I screamed like a six year old girl and ran out of there so fast you would have thought I was that super dude with wings on his feet– no not the kinda cool Greek God, but the one with that sotra lame red leotard and the helmet with wings…. Yeah like motordog’s helmet but with wings on it and painted red. NO, that’s that guy who plays Thor… Forget it… I just hauled out and ran. Freaking giant eye totally freaked me out. I may even have peed myself. DON’T LAUGH. You so would have too.

      Any way after the way the super strong evil dude screwed me over with that nasty ass flaming bondage thing and then this giant eye trauama… I swear I’m done with sex gay or straight.

      Dude I’m going to go help Mother Theresa or someth– dead? Seriously she’s dead… f****ck OKAY the Dalai Llama…I’m going to go help the Dalai Llama, but THAT’S IT FOR SEX… I QUIT. I knoooow! I was supposed to become the greatest super hero ever or some bullsh*t and save the world, but the hell with that. If I can’t even get laid without giant eyeballs then let the super strong arsehole save them… I’m out.

      *Dignified gentleman gently closes leather bound cover on Anderson’s Big Book Of Gay Bedtime Stories*

      “And that boys and boys is why gay sex is always bad and it’s best to dedicate your life to holy works. Now lets turn out the lamps and go to bed….”

      • Steven Klimecky

        You ….. are ….. SOOOO …cute! I hope your bf appreciates you.

      • WarGoddess

        That is fantastic! It kinda sounds like a guy who’s stoned or something telling the story, lol! Absolutely hilarious! 😀

      • Adam Black

        Apparently you have *no idea* what Vajrayana ( tibetan llamas ) monks are permitted to do, without it counting as real sex . That Kundalini snake doesnt raise itself, you know.
        Maybe Theraveda might be more your style.

        • Oh Adam, you’ve been reading all 6,000 verses of your Ramayana again haven’t you…? Don’t worry people it will wear off in time…

          • Adam Black

            Now Youve got your tantras mixed up, but if you knew what was in either one ( HOT , HOT SEX )
            youd know that you arenrt going find that white purity in a left-hand path, having sexfests in graveyards.

          • But isn’t that all just semantics? Good tantric sex is just good tantric sex no matter what you call it… No? Am I confused here?

          • Adam Black

            i think so . ( re confused )

            TibetanBuddhism = vajrayana = practices tantra

            If your character wants to take his mind off sex, it would be counter-productive to start imagining ( or acting out ) sex rituals with goddesses to manipulate “inner fire”

          • Adam Black

            I’ll play skillful-means, and let you be wisdom.

            ( you got lube right? )

  • Huh. A few pages ago a brilliant person suggested that this entire story could be Flyboy reading that yaoi comic website…but now I’m thinking Flyboy must have gotten bored with seeing geysers of man pleasure and has cranked up the Photoshop…and since he thinks Mordor is super awesome and has always wanted to visit there, he’s decided to live vicariously through Kyle’s would-be seduction.

    …and since Spooky said he was going to put a small demon in the computer, Flyboy has decided that Kyle is that demon, or part demon, or maybe Kyle is going to turn into Lurtz, the Uruk, and really kick Anni’s butt by shooting three arrows at him.

    Whether he succeeds remains to be seen. After all, Anni appears to be tougher than Sean Bean and fire-proof too.

    ****
    Back to our regularly scheduled programming! Thank you for indulging me.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Omg, that was awesome! You actually put a smile back on my face! Btw, it makes about as much sense as anything else on this page.

      • Oh here, here ! Well said Gryphongirl2. Totally fun and creative and what an interesting idea for a story all it’s own… The idea (okay I’m tweaking already) that Fly felt left out of the porn surf, jumped in and started to play out his own reality, Spooky’s demon inserted to “control” Fly’s access actually (as Demon’s do) is causing insane events to happen and this whole thing is actually being driven unbeknownst by Fly. Okay, I do know that’s not exactly what you said, but as Joss Whedon said, fanfic is the biggest compliment you can get. And everyone one of these ideas is a huge compliment to the inspiration of Alex, Vero, Adam and their rendering program! 🙂

        • Mr. Dangerfield! This my very first fanfic and I am so humbly grateful! I love the twist that Fly’s access is causing all this insanity because this means more nutty things are on the way! *chortle*

          And you are sooo spot on with Alex, Vero, and Adam being inspiring. Cheers! *raises half full glass of Malbec and sips*

      • Denise Cruz

        Ditto!!

      • Awww! Your kind comments (Jamie and Denise) make me giddy even if I’m late to the party. *blushes*

    • Denise Cruz

      WOW!! That’s the better theory I’ve read! Great thinking Gryphongirl2! (clapping) *.*

      • Thank you! *bows* I apologize for not being able to camp with all your marvelous people last night.

        • Denise Cruz

          You’re welcome! ^v^
          Actually, I was here for a while, but I didn’t get to see the new page untill this morning… I was too tired…
          Maybe we both can be camping with all this great people, untill the end, next Saturday, uhn?!
          It’s gonna be awesome, as always! I can’t wait! ^v^

    • WarGoddess

      Haha I love your Lord of the Rings references, and how you even know the name of one of the Uruk-hai! I figured that out after I got a set of collector’s character cards with every main character and species that appeared in the movie! One of them was Lurtz! 😀

      • Steven Klimecky

        I don’t believe “Lurtz” was an original character (at least not specifically by name) in LOTR, Just like there was no wizard battle between Gandalf and Saruman as depicted, nor was Saruman ever allied with Sauron as one of his henchmen or followers. Truth be told, Saruman wanted to acquire the One Ring for himself – he wanted to get his hands on it before the Dark Lord so he could use it for his own purposes and satisfy his personal lust for power and domination over Middle Earth. (Not that all that relates very much to anything here – just passing time while I wait for the next slash of the knife through my vulnerable and trepidatious heart – I mean, the next page.)

        • WarGoddess

          Oh, don’t worry, I know about all of that stuff too. I read all three of the books and know about the stuff that was included and the stuff that was excluded. Like how they didn’t include Tom Bombadill at all in the first movie, Frodo was less of a whiny little bitch in the books, and the whole scene at the end of the third book after they finish their adventure and find that the Shire has been overrun, so they have to reclaim it and plant the magical seeds from Galadriel’s garden, wasn’t mentioned at all. I was just saying that I was surprised that she mentioned Lurtz’s name, because he was solely a movie character, and wasn’t named in the movie. He was the main Uruk-hai, and in the set of movie cards I received, he got his own card and name along with a few other minor characters, such as Gothmog (the orc with the burned face) and Figwit, one of the elves that rode alongside Arwen when she was traveling through the forest to leave Middle-Earth. 😀

          • Adam Black

            I am still bull that the battle for the shire was cut out and excluded from the plot.
            at the very least they could have saved it for a DVD extra

          • Plus, Lurtz was a bad a$$ and his make up took something like 36 hours to put on so I’m glad they gave him his own card and name.

      • This is the reason I love Google so much but your method of learning the characters’ names is waaaay better!

  • LOL

  • Glad to hear it, Beatriz!

    (And I think you’re in good company for that Annihilator ass kicking. 🙂 )

  • Welcome, Calahara! I’m glad you’re enjoying the comic (and the eye-ball!). And all very good questions! 🙂

  • Hehe. Glad you’re looking forward to the next page. Sorry about the breakfast. 😉

  • Mwa ha ha. 🙂

  • Indeed. That was awesome. 😉

  • 🙂

  • Thank you, j.azzeh. 🙂

  • Midwestmutt

    Vote! Let’s give TYP a good kickoff to a new month!

  • Shasarazade

    Uhhhhhhh…I hope this is what YOU were expecting, Anni, because now I’m really freaked the hell out. o.O

  • vessto

    OMG, people vote!!! It seems some conspirating comics mafia decided to oppose TYP and Artifice votes rising!!!!!

    • SofiaT

      It keeps going up and down like crazy. Artifice was 600+ a couple of hours ago o.O

      • vessto

        OMG again!!!! 99 and 191! Yay!! Let stay like that!!!!

        Hm, maybe the Webcomic Voting Site has probs or is a target of hackers *shudders* I hope it will become stable again!

        • Stig Hemmer

          TWC resets the vote count the first of every month. Things get pretty bouncy for a while.

          • SofiaT

            Yeah, I thought that was a bit weird.

          • vessto

            But why?? Is this vote monthly only?

          • vessto

            But why?? Is the vote montly only?

        • SofiaT

          #72 and #130 yay!!!!

          Now, we need to make sure they stay there.
          Daily reminders to people to vote -we should take shifts 😛

  • Salimk

    i don’t think they’re on earth anymore… maybe he’s using kyle to jump to another dimension… just sayin lmao

  • Lunam_Kardas

    So is this what Half Life Episode 3 is going to look like?

    • Tina

      No this is what the FANDOM will look like when Episode 3 comes out

  • Soooo…. I can’t even imagine what the next page will entail

    • SofiaT

      Have you started camping? I won’t be able to camp today 🙁

      • Not yet. Too early to camp, but it seemed so quite. Work got you tied up?

        • SofiaT

          I’m hiring an assistant and today are the final interviews of the short listed candidates. I have one at noon and one at 2pm -that’s around the time it usually updates 🙁

          • Tina

            Ew that doesn’t sound like fun. Lol you can check the update during the interview and freak them out with your squealing

          • b3nc0

            Or make TYP-fangirling a requirement for the job

          • Denise Cruz

            I would love working in such business/ place/job. ^v^ It seems amazing!

          • SofiaT

            My own boss will be present, I don’t think she’d impressed 😛

          • Tina

            Lol maybe she’s secretly a yaoi fan

          • Denise Cruz

            Wouldn’t it be great?! ^v^

          • I think I agree with b3nc0. 🙂

            But I will wish you luck. And maybe the update will be a… I hate to say it, but late.

          • Denise Cruz

            NO! Silly-sweet, friend! Maybe Sofia will be able to hire some of them more quickly than she had thought she would!
            Good lucky, Sofia!! 😉

          • I was also about to say, it could also be early! But hiring quickly is always good too.

          • Denise Cruz

            It’s always better! She would even be able to camp, maybe, and we would get next page in the right time. Great deal! Both parts! XD

  • Midnyt Slayer

    ok i had not a clue what was to happen next but I sure did not expect a demon world to pop up. That IS a different realm right?

    • Different realm, dimension, world. That’s the consensus.

      • Adam Black

        I christen it, “B4-Kaughfy”

  • b3nc0

    Not really camping tonight…orz Back in a few hours…oTL Been too lazy to read all the comments…m(__)m so my guessing must have been here multiple times‼

    Different, demoniac realm, where the D-ceivor intend to gain power/subdue a powerful demon for further felony?! I just hope that either Kyle got the power, or the Demon find Dung-can unworthy of His service and throw him in a putrid pyroclastic pit (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡/(.□. )

  • Denise Cruz

    lol It would be even creepier! And fun! lol

  • Aland

    Looking at the last bit… I am reminded of Duncan’s comment about Dim Sum, back in Chapter 1. I had to go reread it and he did say ‘Anarchist’ not ‘Antichrist.’ Also, this still may be a fountain of youth plot. Going back to Ch1, Pg14, Duncan did say to Sircea, “New possibilities do make one feel… young.” All in all, though I have to applaud Alex on have an awesome character development and intriguing plot line. So yeah, go vote for his comic, too!

    • Thank you very much, Aland. I’m so glad to have you with us! 🙂

  • Steven Klimecky

    Very thoughtful comment, esp. regarding Dumbledore’s situation and how it may relate here.

  • Denise Cruz

    I keep thinking about what is in Kyle’s mind, right now…
    Is he thinking he’s crazy, or drunk?.. or having a nightmare, maybe?!
    I don’t think he really believes what’s happening to him…
    Can he at least start understanding how screwed he looks to be?
    Well… I couldn’t blame him if he was feeling out of balance and/or pretty confused and skeptical about everything around him.
    And… Cr*p! (Sorry!) I still can’t allow myself to believe that Duncan is really going to have courage to let that boy right there or use him as… oh! whatever it may be… I just can’t! It’s too much for my mind! (frustrated, annoyed,sad, angry).

    • Steven Klimecky

      Ditto! – lol (Totally agree.)

      • Denise Cruz

        I’m getting overwhelmed by my own feelings related to this crazy-hot- traitor anarchist and he’l little redhaired boy!
        I hope they don’t end up kiliing one another… i.i

        • Adam Black

          They are already in hell.
          Atleast Kyle could leave.

    • Oh I’m certain all those thoughts are going through his mind and then some. Most likely no one will believe him that is if he dares tell anyone. I could see some pretty harsh victim blaming coming his way as well.

      I don’t believe Duncan will leave him. I know that makes me crazy, but I don’t believe it. Of course I could be in for some serious shock at which point I will accept all the I told you so’s from everyone who believed he would.

      • Denise Cruz

        I really hope he doesn’t. It would be a deception even worse for me.

        Poor kid! He didn’t deserve that… Really! Who would believe him?! Assuming that he would be able to explain what happened or at least try… (We don’t even know, for sure, IF he’ll be able to get out of there. And if they just leave him?! OMG!!)

        I know… There are a lot of people against Anni, but, although it looks so obvious, I don’t judge a book for its cover. I need to read it ’till the end and then figure out if it was worthy of it.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Snake charmer?

  • SofiaT

    Camping really quickly on my lunch break -any news?

    • Tina

      Nien. I’m heading to bed in the hopes I’ll wake up in a few hours and find an update. How’s the interviews going?

      • SofiaT

        Good night! And wake up to an awesome page 😀

        First interview went ok but I have higher hopes for the second one. Either way, I’ll have an assistant by the end of the day 🙂

        • Tina

          I’d gladly be your assistant! If I knew where you worked and if I was close to it… -_-;

          Lol that probably wouldn’t be a good idea as all we’d be doing is fan squealing about TYP

          • SofiaT

            Hehe, yeah, probably not a very good idea 😛

    • Denise Cruz

      Nothing yet! How were the interviews? Already done?

      • SofiaT

        I wish!! One down, one more to go.
        Looking forward to the day ending so I can go home and enjoy the new page 😀

        • Denise Cruz

          Let’s hope you get a really good one after lunch! And maybe you can go home to find an even more surprising new page. 😉

    • mogoskier

      Nope, but here have blueberry pie and chocolate raspberry cake.

      • SofiaT

        Ohhh thanks! I’ve already eaten my sandwich but I got some Cadbury chocolate lying around if you want?

        • mogoskier

          YES YES YES (grabs from your hand)
          Sorry it my favorite

          • SofiaT

            Haha, no worries! *whispers* I don’t really like Cadbury chocolate.
            Now, a Mars bar or a Twix on the other hand…

      • SofiaT

        I’m outta here. Lunch break is over 🙁
        Link me up guys when the new page is up, please?

        • mogoskier

          Sure, good luck

  • *drags self in*
    I’ve been feeling sick for days, but thats not gonna stop me camping for a new page. Especially not with that cliffhanger we were left with..
    I’m ready for what ever it is. Bring it! o_o

    • Denise Cruz

      I’m sorry about your sickness, sweetie! i.i
      Did you see a doctor already?
      I hope the new page brings you some mitigation…
      Bring it! Bring it! Bring it!!

      • Nah.. doesn’t feel like something I need to see the doctor just yet. I’ve just been on the couch for days pretty much sleeping. I’m getting better 🙂

        • Denise Cruz

          That’s good! Let’s hope it ends up quickly, then… ^v^

    • WarGoddess

      Oh goodness, you just said the magic words. It’s just like saying “it just can’t get any worse, can it?” Then stuff automatically gets worse. The next page is going to be even more shocking than this one now. 😀

      • Yeaah xD There’s still the question of what exactly Kyle is just to mention one thing, but I don’t think that one will be a ‘big shocker’ right now after how twisted this page was.

        Hard to ‘beat’ a creepy eye.. unless that eye is just about to get creepier o.o

      • Adam Black

        I hope Kyle goes all DEMON on his ass.

    • Jamie Dutton

      Awww, I hope you feel better soon!
      I really want to know what the heck is goin on with that Eyeball!!

      • *whispers* It’s watching you sleep.

        • Jamie Dutton

          Eeeeek, stop it, Danish!!
          *throws crackers at DanishWolf*

    • Sapfo

      Get better Danish, here is some digital soup for you….

      …thought of you when I read this
      http://satwcomic.com/

      • *lol* That relationship between Denmark and Sweden XD
        It’s like an unspoken sibling rivalry where we’re ‘competing’ ..until someone else budge in and interfeer. Then all of that is forgotten for a while and we’re sticking together.

        • Sapfo

          Get better sister Danish. It is a long day with camping and even if you do steal the virgins form me most of the time, I do want you here 🙂

  • davefragments

    I suspect tonight we will find out more about that Eyeball. I don’t have a suggestion or a guess right now. I might later.

  • Steven Klimecky

    Another thing that completely tears at my heartstrings and causes me even further pain along with my keen empathy for Kyle: Remember how shy he was, getting into the bed? – Just barely out of his clothes and he dashes under the covers before anyone can even take a peek. But now, so ironically and so as to be one more harsh twist adding to the poor kid’s trauma upon trauma, he’s uncovered and totally naked and exposed, bound and spread-eagled, as open and vulnerable as a person could be, with not only Duncan there to see everything (not that he seems too interested in looking), but there’s now this giant freakish eyeball, of all things, staring at poor, open, vulnerable, spread, naked Kyle. How does a painfully shy person deal with this?? It just hurts me to my gut, as I’ve always been painfully shy about my body and various parts myself, and it was traumatizing enough for me in junior high to have to swim naked during P.E. class once a week on pool day, and of course the naked showering before and after, and after all other gym class sessions. (At least I used that opportunity to do a lot of very surreptitious looking). But jeezus, shy Kyle with that optic horror peering hard down upon him with the-elder-gods-only-know what kind of unspeakable intent. And furthermore, it may not even be the only entity looking and ogling – for all we know all the hosts of hell might be lurking in the jagged rocks and cliffs, and among the darting flames and the stifling fumes and fogs.watching and chomping at the bit over the site of that poor sweet boy. God this is just killing me. And Mr. W. has created yet another situation where I almost can’t bare to look at the new page, but feel compelled to do so anyway – knowing that I may not want to see what will be revealed there, but at the same time powerless to resist – no way out for me nor seemingly for my poor, exposed, vulnerable, red-haired, adorable hero-boy.

    • Denise Cruz

      Oh, please, have mercy! Don’t make me remember him so shy… It hurts! Ooooohhh f*ch!

    • Adam Black

      “swim naked during P.E. class once a week on pool day”

      really? Atleast you werent alone.

      Imagine if Kyle knew you were watching him?
      ( or all of us? )

      I speculated that the eye is a metaphor for us, the readers. That would make you the eye.

      oh, the guilt. Its all our faults.

      None of these terrible things would even happen to kyle if it wasnt for the mere entertainment of the cruel, cruel readers. You people are worse than Colosseum audiences. Now close your eyes and stop looking at Kyle naked. Have you no shame?

      ( some one pass me the popcorn… )

      • Hikaru Takemori

        I have to disagree on being worse than Colosseum audience. The Romans had a pretty sick sense of entertainment (at least some of the time) like, you know how the minotaur came to be? Well they had it be enacted, the involved woman, if I remember right, never survived. Or the tale of Icarus, so…
        But you are right it we are at fault for poor Kyle’s predicament and we should feel ashamed of ourselves.

        (*passes popcorn* Here you go, I’ve got different kinds, too)

        • Adam Black

          sweet.

          ( Look over the last few pages. You put the Romans to shame. )

      • What’s the wonderful cartoon where Caesar is watching various gladiators kill each other he says to his seat mate, “Instead of ‘thumbs down’ what happens if I do this? And he does the classic one finger through the ring of thumb and forefinger, the classic f*cking sign… And so these super hot gladiators start to do exactly that.

        There is a shocked pause and Caesar says, “You mean I could have been asking them to do THAT all along?”

        Popcorn indeed.

  • Holly

    I’m kind of relieved that there is not bonus page this week. I have bloodwork in the morning, and camping out all night waiting for and commenting on the new page would have been unhealthy. So I will see you on Saturday. ^_^

    • There IS a bonus page today. The donation bar is now collecting for next week 🙂

      • Sapfo

        What Danish said, she was faster

      • Holly

        Oh Hellfire! I didn’t see an announcement that there would be a bonus page. UGH now I’m sad. Oh well off to see the new page.

    • Um… there is a page tonight. But sleep, doctors appt. are more important.

      • Holly

        Yeah well I feel like having my blood taken AND Missing the camp out for a new page is just unfair. 🙁

        Well off to see it.

    • Denise Cruz

      As Admiral Jane, DanishWolf and Sapfo already have said, there is a page tonight. This amount above already refers to next week bonus page ! (Seriously!!)

      But, rest well, tonight. You can see two new pages at Saturday! It will be a nice surprise! ^v^

      • Holly

        Why do I have to wait until Saturday?! Why can’t I look at it now?! Is this a punishment! T_T

  • Sapfo

    A chilly autumn day, but with warm blanket, tea and waiting for an exciting new page makes this a good camping day

    • You have tea, otherwise I would give you a nice hot cup of fresh roasted coffee.

      • Denise Cruz

        I want some, pleaasseee! I do love coffee!! <3

    • Jamie Dutton

      Move closer to the fire, sapfo! We don’t bite, no, really, we don’t, lol. Well, unless your a chocolate bar or a cupcake and then all bets are off!

    • And, honestly, what day wouldn’t be good for a camping day? I ask you? 🙂

      • Hikaru Takemori

        Ahm, those days with blizzards?

        • Sapfo

          No blizzard days are the best to camp on. In doors that is. 😉

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Oh, yeah, right 🙂

          • mogoskier

            I always imagined we camped in a hotel lobby with a fire pit and a buffet table where we put the food we bring

          • Jamie Dutton

            Shhhh, we’re pretending that we’re ‘roughing’ it! Though the couches in here are really comfy…wait, I mean ‘Dangit, I sat on a pointy rock :(‘

          • Sapfo

            Well, my nice warm blanket is almost to comfortable. And the pillows around me are almost to soft. Oh the horror of camping are almost to much 😉

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Can blanket forts be involved?

          • mogoskier

            But of course

          • stickfigurefairytales

            We will have to build it away from the fire pit, though.

          • Yay for blanket forts.

          • God, I loved blanket forts…

          • Why the past tense? Who cares if you’re an adult, blanket forts are STILL awesome! 🙂

          • Adam Black

            sounds like an idea for a new interlude.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I just realized that I can make an instant blanket fort for myself by draping a fleece throw between my computer monitor and the back of my chair. *So awesome.*

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Though this only works well if the back of your chair is higher than your head.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Blanket forts? I always used my mattress for that, leaned it against a wall and used blankets as doors. It never survived long for the evil motherly forces came and destroyed it.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I grieve for your fort’s destruction, as that sounds like an excellent architectural base.

          • Hikaru Takemori

            Thanks, I thought so, too.

      • Denise Cruz

        One where will be no update?! lol

      • Days when your internet crap out just before the new page D:
        I’ve tried that a handfull of times *horror*

        • Sapfo

          Horror o.O

  • Xalun K

    Refresh. Wait 5 minutes. Refresh. Wait 5 minutes. Refresh. Wait 5 minutes. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Alex, seriously, the suspense is killer. You are a VERY talented storyteller.

    In the meantime, I’m keeping myself occupied with Supernatural. Woo.

    • Tina

      I feel like a kid on CHristmas eve waking up few hours wondering what little present Santa has brought us. Though I’d imagine Alex be one of this black Santa who instead of leaving presents, steals hearts

      • Denise Cruz

        So cute!!! Although I couldn’t help imagining Duncan as a hot Santa! lol

        • mogoskier

          OOOHHH… now that a nice image. Someone who can draw get on that.

          • Denise Cruz

            You can ask it to WarGoddess. She’s great!
            I already asked one, this week ! ^v^

          • mogoskier

            Do you mind Ms. WarGoddess? (looks at you with puppy eyes)

          • Denise Cruz

            I’m not her. 🙂 Unfortunatelly, I can’t draw, not even a little flower…
            She just made some comments above. You can ask her. She’s really nice and she doesn’t mind, at all! ^v^

          • mogoskier

            OH, thank you 🙂

          • Tina

            I can draw that. Maybe for Christmas *winks*

  • Tina

    *goes to bed* nothing. *wakes up two hours later* damnit still nothing! It was hard enough getting to sleep the first time!

    • YG_Frenchie

      Oh, we live the same lives on update nights! Glad I”m not alone. It’s like I have this inner clock that goes off and sings “Waaaake uuuup! There’s new eye candy to seeeeeee!”

      And when it IS up, I force my tired unfocused eyes and squint at my iPad’s bright screen. Hurts, hurts so good!

      • SofiaT

        My Safari keeps dying on me while I try to load a page -especially when the Discuss comments are loading.

        I don’t have any other issues with iOS7 but my internet and email have both gone cuckoo ever since I updated >:(

  • Denise Cruz

    That big eyeball is starting to laugh and say that it will not go away … And I’m not even drunk! (Am I Amiral Jane?! – looks into the cup of coffee) Nah! I’m not!…
    Looks at the big – and now smiling – eyeball again… Oh, God! Alex… Help!! Where are you?

    • WarGoddess

      Be strong, Denise! You’ll only have to wait just a little bit longer! 😀

      • Denise Cruz

        I’m trying to.. That thing is making me crazy! lol

    • Just straight coffee. Unless someone added something.

      • Denise Cruz

        Good! So I’m really freaking crazy! XDD

        • Well it is real coffee. Fresh ground, fresh roasted. And caffeine can have weird effects. So maybe some decaf?

          • Denise Cruz

            Never! I’m addicted to coffee! ^v^

    • I’m right here. Dough is being kneaded… 🙂

      • Adam Black

        Looks you’ve taken us all to a field trip to the oven.

        • I always wanted to see the Keebler Tree

          • Adam Black

            Some of those elves are cute.

            Someone draw some around kyle.

          • Maybe the eyeball would like some cookies. Cookies solve everything.

            But for all I know that Kyle is part Keebler

          • Adam Black

            cookies bake on his lap

          • So wrong. Never mind where I baked these, do you want them or not.

          • Adam Black

            what, no cooking video?

          • Only for the cakes.

          • Adam Black

            tell me its a bundt cake!

          • Is there any other kind?

      • Denise Cruz

        Thanks, God!! I thought you’d left us forever with that thing! XD

      • jreed3842

        OMG! YAY! I didn’t think we hit the goal for a bonus page. I’m glad to know the dough is being kneaded!

        • We did that already. The current bar is for next weeks’ bonus page 🙂

          • jreed3842

            What a pleasant surprise! It’s like Christmas!

      • Tina

        How long exactly? Like if its ten-twenty minutes I’ll just wait but if its another hour or two I’ll go back to sleep

  • science

    Just… a few… more… minutes…. AUGH

  • Sapfo

    Oh I want to watch a movie veil camping. No the hard decision: My fair Lady or Life of Brian…. Help me, they are both so good.

    • Life of Brian!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      “Anybody else feel like a little…giggle…when I mention my fwiend…Biggus…Dickus?”

  • DoctorDeego

    *Sits around the campfire toasting marshmallows*
    So how are my fellow campers tonight? 😀

    • jreed3842

      I’m fantastic! Homework is done… and now all I have left to do is chow down on some nice s’mores with you fine people!

    • GingerChris86

      Camping when I should be working 😛

    • Waiting waiting.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Pretty good, pretty good.

    • Tina

      I’m camping when I should be sleeping for work in the morning. Otherwise good.

  • Sapfo

    They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but believe that the result will be different. I just call it camping XD

  • stickfigurefairytales

    I’ve decided to institute a “no giant demonic eyeballs” policy for any dates I go on.

    • Sapfo

      But he has a great personality

      • Denise Cruz

        He has everything great… but he keeps looking at you untill you can’t sleep anymore… kind of a nightmarish stalker… Ugh!

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Maybe we could get the eyeball a giant opaque contact lens for bedtime?

          • A sleep mask! A leopard print.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            But wouldn’t that hurt if it was on the eyeball?

            …actually, come to think of it, a giant eyeball seems like it’d be fairly easy to defeat. You could fight it off with a huge version of those machines optometrists use that shoot a blast of air at your eyes to check for glaucoma or something.

          • Good idea. Those are terrifying

          • Denise Cruz

            It would be good but, I would prefer a huge plastic bag around his head, strong handcuffs on his wrists and where else it was needed … lol

      • That sounds like something your mother says over your protests when she wants you to date her best friend’s son, the Podiatrist, with the sensible shoes…..

    • Denise Cruz

      Remind me to sign the treaty right there, after you, please!

    • davefragments

      now that would make a great topic for a dinner party…My significant other is a giant eyeball. He/She/It just loves caviar and champagne.

      Got to be a marriage made in (no, not there!)

      • stickfigurefairytales

        He/She/It *hates* onions, though.

    • Oh shush you. It could be worse.. the eye could have been attached to a giant demonic thing 😉

      • Sapfo

        Oh no Danish, Now I have an image of the great Eye with balls XD

        • Denise Cruz

          XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

        • My work is done.

          • Denise Cruz

            Poor Sapfo! You’ve just ruined his/hers life! lol

          • Sapfo

            Her 😉

          • Denise Cruz

            Thank you! I felt a little bit lost about it! 😉

        • davefragments

          in a dish of spaghettiO’s

          • Well it is the neat round spaghetti you can eat with a spoon… uh oh…

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I’m not convinced that everything around them isn’t all part of the giant demonic thing.

        • See! It could be worse..

          • stickfigurefairytales

            There could be snakes in here with them, for instance.

          • Just when I thought ‘thingy shmushing’ couldn’t get more disturbing…..

  • Despite how sad this is, I gotta say, that’s one hell of an orgasm. Not sure I’d mind having it myself LOL

    Though I don’t know what the result will be, so…

  • mogoskier

    I know I have to sleep, got class tomorrow got to teach people how to swim but at the same time i know i won’t be able to sleep until the new page comes up. :'(

    • Denise Cruz

      Welcome to my world! 😀

    • stickfigurefairytales

      But on the other hand, if you do go to sleep then you’ll have a fresh new page waiting for you in the morning, like it’s Christmas if that’s a thing you celebrate!

      • mogoskier

        While that is true; I ,sadly, have zero pacince

  • Sapfo

    DanishWolf Some soup for you? And if you others want some, just come and get it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgyRO3c870

    • *hisss*

      • Sapfo

        Is something wrong with the soup?

  • So… I’m sure you guys have seen this already, but… What does the fox say?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

    • The fox say Yiff, Yiff, Yiff 😉

      • mogoskier

        Did you get that off Kasierneko tumblr

        • Who? I don’t have a tumblr account so I’m not on there much.
          I just thought of a pun, considering what yiff is *lol*

          • mogoskier

            He part of the team that make Dragon Ball Z abridged. Good pun though

    • davefragments

      I wondered why six guys were carrying on in a forest with light sabers poking out of the ground.

      Come to think if it, NO, I never wondered that…
      😉

  • stickfigurefairytales

    IT’S UP!!!!

    • Tina

      WHERE?!

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Sometimes (or maybe all the time?) it takes a little while before the link shows up on the bottom of the page, so I usually just type in the next page number and keep refreshing that in a separate tab when I’m waiting for an update.

  • LOL

  • Livia

    Maybe Kyle is Laampros illegitimate child. (O.O) woooo…!?

  • Vincent

    Oh what fresh hell is this?

  • Ryn

    holy fucking crap! O.O

  • SailorAstarte

    This story had been so beautiful and moving, and then you had to have it ruined by yet another story where there can’t be anything good come from it. Almost every gay movie, for example, I’ve seen, gay or lesbian, ends in tragedy. This was making me feel so good but now … I won’t be finishing this. The Lord’s Name was used in vain, and I didn’t like that, but the story up to the betrayal was amazing. I’m so sick of comic books today being dark and unhappy. Anyway, beautiful art and colours.

    • While there isn’t a lot of swearing in this comic, it’s not unlikely that a character might use the Lord’s name in vain again at some point. Whether this comic as a whole should be considered “dark and unhappy” I’ll leave to you and your fellow readers to decide. But I did speak directly about whether this comic will end in tragedy, at least for the main character, here in the notes under the page in the “SPOILERISH COMMENTARY” section:

      http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/archive/ete-ch2-page-32/

      Hope that helps clear things up! 🙂

  • WHA????