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The Young Protectors: Engaging The Enemy Chapter 5—Page 69

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So! Despite all the fire and smoke, it didn’t take much to calm Kyle down. Was he playing “bad cop” all along? And is Commander right about ExSec locking Kid Anni up? (Look at those baby blues — could you put this sweet, innocent-looking boy behind bars?)

Tune in this Wednesday to find out! Hope to see you there! 😀

 

  • Well, military arrived..

    • Saxon_Brenton

      And just in time to underscore Commander’s orders.

  • Eris, elder daughter of Nyx

    Nooooo, save him, Kyle! Save the kiddo!

  • Duncan is not having a good day.

  • … Wow.
    I’m frightened for Tiny Duncan…

    Imagine just like… waking up, you’re in a place you don’t recognize, and you’re freaking out. Then a dude with fire eyes is about to burn you.
    Then the military comes and puts you in a box in a hole for a very long time…

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Yeah, I’m pretty worried for him, too.

    • Nate

      I keep hearing Elton John when I see that nickname. 😀

      “Hold me closer, Tiny Duncan…”

      • Ha!!

      • William Clapie

        that was truly terrible

    • Adam Black

      Seems like the opening scene for a good porn.

      Military , eh?

  • DonnaC

    Exsec sound harsh. I understand that treatment for the Annihilator but for this child Duncan I’m not sure.

    • I wonder if they’ll take it easy on him?
      They don’t really have the built up anger that Kyle does, so they may be less inclined to punish him?

      • DonnaC

        I hope they go easy on him. I can’t forgive adult Duncan but this young one I might. But I can understand keeping him somewhere secure until they can assess if he is still a threat or not.

        • Yeah, that makes sense to me.
          And I’m with you, adult Duncan can go die… but Tiny Duncan… I do believe he’s telling the truth.
          His memory and personality have been wiped clean.
          He now has the chance to start over, and not be a total dickwad… but there is so much going on for him right now, that he may fall down the slippery slope of villainy once again.

        • timemonkey

          It’ll likely depend on how the laws regarding this kind of things have been set up. Teen Duncan is technically the same person that adult Duncan was so unless they wrote in some special circumstances leeway he can be charged with everything he did as an adult.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            That reminds me of when Magneto went on trial in the X-Men comics once and his lawyer argued that since at one point he’d been turned into a baby and then later re-aged up, he was no longer technically the same person he was before. Of course, that trial got interrupted by attacks and stuff before the judge could make any kind of decision on that basis.

          • timemonkey

            When these things are possible the law needs to be prepared to deal with it. If they go easy on teen Duncan what’s to stop him or any other villains from doing whatever they want and then escaping the consequences by regressing and starting over?

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Well, the fact that they would be effectively erasing their own consciousness and ending the existence of the person they have been, not to mention leaving themselves absurdly vulnerable to anyone who would want to exploit them or seek revenge.

          • timemonkey

            Which they’d have to deal with anyway. You pass a certain point and people are out to get you anyway, this way the systems on your side and you may even get an army of superheroes protecting you as you get a fresh start.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            But you’d be far better equipped to defend yourself from threats like that if you kept your memories and abilities, and I doubt many supervillains would be willing to put their blind faith in the government genuinely treating them well.

            Plus they wouldn’t actually have the ability to consciously enjoy that new life as the person they had been. I don’t think I can stress that part enough – they would be effectively killing themselves, to my mind.

          • Curt Clark

            Pretty much this. A memory wipe isn’t like a cover identity…you’re basically hitting the reset button on everything.

            I might actually consider the government using it as a suitable alternative to the death penalty for supercriminals, wiping their memories and giving them a fresh start.

          • timemonkey

            That’s the point. They could do whatever they want and then effectively commit suicide while potentially gaining a second life.

          • Curt Clark

            That’s where I’m hoping this goes. Magneto wasn’t even mindwiped when he turned into a baby and he got off. Duncan has no memory of what the Annihilator did.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        That raises an interesting question on the balance point between justice as retribution vs rehabilitation. In this case, knowing what led to the start of Annihilator’s criminality in the first place, it could be argued that this is an opportunity to “get it right the second time”. Someone as powerful as an adult Annihilator but acting as a superhero rather than a supervillain might be a good argument for rehab rather than, as the Commander said, being kept in a very small box.

        • Curt Clark

          I agree with this.

    • Previous younger Duncan, 40-45 years ago, beat up some kids really bad. He may or may not be without powers now, and they could come back later on. Given how he previously turned out, I can understand the causion.
      The dangerous line is whether this could be the instigation of another bad Duncan – IF he has powers again (and based on being powerless and clueless right now).

  • DonnaC

    Happy Birthday Chris D.

    • Yeah!
      Happy birthday to Chris!! *brings the cake and ice cream*

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I’ve got party hats and noisemakers!

        • This party is going to be (as the cool kids say) off the hook!
          😀

          • stickfigurefairytales

            We’ll need unlimited juice too, then!

          • I’ll bring the Sparkling Grape Juice!! 😀

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Yes indeed. happy Birthday Mr Dangerfield.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Yay! Happy birthday, Chris!!!

    • I was going to wait a few hours, since it’s not yet saturday on the westcoast, but since this is technically saturday’s page, and Alex already said it…

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS.

    • Happy Birthday, Chris!

    • Klaus

      Happy birthday Chris, and best of luck in the coming year.

    • Curt Clark

      Sweet! My birthday’s on Monday. Happy birthday Chris!

      • Sweet early B-day, @curtclark:disqus!

    • Nate

      Happy B-day, Chris! *hugs*

    • Have a great growing old-er celebration, Chris!

  • Saxon_Brenton

    Paranoid conspiracy theory:
    I thought of this last update, but then forgot to post it. I’ve noticed for a long time that when the scripts describe one of the characters, they usually give that persons codename, with the exception of Red Hot, who is always named ‘Kyle’. Over the past few pages the scripts have been naming Annihilator as ‘The Boy’.

    The sensible answer for this is that it’s a way to indicate to Adam that Annihilator should be drawn as a mid-teen, as opposed to his more mature actual age. A quick scripting shorthand to keep track of the character’s outward appearance.

    However the nasty thought that occurred to me half a week ago was: what if that is a sneaky hidden-in-plain-sight clue that this is a ringer. That it isn’t a youthened Annihilator, but some random kid (probably with a magical mindwipe and geas provided by the Platinum Priestess) planted as a contingency and distraction.

    • Huh. That would be crazy, and totally with in the realm of possibility! I could see Alex throwing that twist in there….

      Ugh. I could see Duncan forcing some random kid to take all the punishments for him.

      • Mary Klemzak

        Lying. Bribing.

        Wouldn’t surprise me at all..

        • ComicBookGoddess

          It would surprise me. Doesn’t really fit the prior description of a turning point.

    • timemonkey

      You could also take it as him no longer being The Annihilator or the Duncan we know.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      But he IS still tagged on the page as the Annihilator, though.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        This is true, and is a hole in my theory that I had overlooked rather than deliberately ignored. (I almost always for the character tags, to the point where I have to search for them.)

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Yeah, I often forget about them, too.

    • NoiseShaper

      Devious, but I’d expect a DNA test being conducted, and then it would have to be a clone at the very least.

  • Zephyr10101

    Whomp Whomp annihilator

  • Wildroses

    I’m expecting to discover whether or not Teen Duncan has powers in the next one. It’s probably clear to him by now that lots of people are going to be angry with him so maybe he ought to start running and not stop.

    • timemonkey

      Running would be bad. And without his powers he has no hope of actually escaping.

      • Wildroses

        No way in the world he’ll succeed without his powers. Which is why I am interested to see if he has them or not.

        • timemonkey

          Signs have been pointing to no since he’s not all buff and still all scratched up.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Aw, but look at that lil’ face! Can we keep him?

    • timemonkey

      Yes! In a hole!

    • Mary Klemzak

      Filing adoption papers as,we speak!

  • ikeamonkey89

    Even if he’s telling the truth? That’s harsh

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Agreed. Poor possibly-amnesiac kid!

    • timemonkey

      He made a deal with a demon king, even if it wasn’t to hand over most of the Earth he’d still need years of study to make sure he was safe.

      • Ikea Monkey

        He’s a child with no memory of any of it. You can’t punish someone who has no memory of what they did especially since he’s been regressed to a child.

        • timemonkey

          You absolutely can.

    • Odysseus154

      not really. he unleashed hell on earth, sacrificing the lives of half the world, billions, just so he could live forever. amnesia or not, dude deserves a bullet to the head.

      • stickfigurefairytales

        I have to disagree – I feel like our memories make up most of who we are, and if all of Duncan’s memories have genuinely been erased, I would consider him in effect a new and different person from the one who made the deal.

        • You and I are on the same page! I totally agree.

        • Curt Clark

          This is my line of thought as well.

  • Mary Klemzak

    Unfortunately, Duncan DOES have to pay for what he’s done. Whether he remembers, or not.

    I really want this to work out, maybe Duncan can start anew with the YP? Its a very long shot.

    However. He WAS looking around. Maybe someone put him up to it, Lied to him, paid him off to take the fall? Something is fishy.

    • Curt Clark

      I think he HAS paid. If this amnesia thing is true, the Duncan we knew, the Annihilator, is essentially dead, with this brand spanking new person in his place, with a life that can go either way.

      Doing anything else past this wouldn’t mean anything because it wouldn’t be Duncan being made to feel remorse, but a child being made to suffer for things he doesn’t remember doing.

      • Mary Klemzak

        If it was up to me, he wouldn’t have to, in this situation.

        Therapy for everyone, and clean up the mess. The end.

        The artists, writers, and publishers make millions of $$$, the world falls in love, several spinoffs are made, live action movies galore, nerds and geeks go ape shit.

        The comics are equal in popularity to DC and Marvel.

        The creators make cameos in the movies and shows, as extras.

        This is my dream, and I hope others too.

  • ComicBookGoddess

    Unless somebody has a change of heart and hides him…

  • davefragments

    I think that Sircea, the Platinum Priestess, and her abundant supply of Braza Double Sided Flash Tape, did a bang-up, insanely great, job of getting Duncan to take the risk of romancing Kyle, betraying him, going to the Hell dimension and facing Laampros, and getting Laampros’ death mark. PP was totally unmarked and totally unseen by Laampros except as some odd wizard person in this dimension. She set up Duncan to take the blame for it all. IF the deal with Laampros went bad, Duncan died.
    However, Laampros wasn’t as stupid and gullible as the PP (and her never-ending supply of Braza Double Sided Flash Tape) expected him to be. He gave Duncan youth and health but no memories of their plan to betray Laampros.
    Think about Youth-Duncan trying to face Laampros with the PP blasting away at him to drive him back through the portal. Does that seem possible without Adult-Duncan’s speed, power, and relative flameproof abilities?
    So here is the depth of Laampros’ betrayal.

    • stickfigurefairytales

      (Psst! Good luck to your Penguins, Dave!)

      • davefragments

        Thanks. I’ll be watching Sunday.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          And now Game 5 of Cavs-Warriors on Monday!

          • davefragments

            I just went and looked. I’m glad they won tonight. I hated to see them lose 4-0. I’m thinking that LeBron might be able to push the team to win the series. He does stuff like that.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Cavs in 7, baby! Let’s do it!

  • Amy Tombleson

    Awwwww I don’t want him to go down the same super villain route, I always hope that people will be given a second chance and will become better people, and what better than a clean slate as big as this, he’s been set back to practically square one. Can’t wait to see what happens 🙂

  • TtllyAwkward

    I feel like some of the arguments down below are biased based on looks. Yes, right now he looks like an innocent, vulnerable, adorable teen, who is afflicted with amnesia about all the assholic things he’s done. But if his looks didn’t change? We’d all be telling him to go to jail.

    That being said, I’m a hypocrite and believe this adorable boy should not go to jail. He’s not a hardened criminal yet, don’t make him go!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      To be honest, I’d feel pretty much the same way I do now if Duncan had completely lost his memory but stayed the same physically. I think I’d just be even more suspicious about whether he was telling the truth.

    • Curt Clark

      stickfigurefairytales and I are in the same boat. I’d be suspicious of whether or not he were lying, but I’d be inclined to want to trust and protect him if he were convincingly amnesiac.

      I guess I’m a believer in justice over vengeance. Justice has already been done — the invasion has been stopped and the Annihilator, who and what he was, is dead.

      • timemonkey

        But they still need to make sure he’s actually gone and not just temporarily out of the picture. Imagine if his memory came back one day. Or if he got his old memories back as he grew up? Plus he still has an active connection to Kyle’s dad, who knows what that could be used for.

        He may be technically innocent but he’s still dangerous and needs to be contained and thoroughly examined.

        • NoiseShaper

          That connection may be used up; The markings on his arm also seem to be gone, and the contract didn’t seem to stipulate a persistent link.

          • timemonkey

            We weren’t expecting a mind wipe so who knows what other tricks were pulled even if the mark is gone there could be surprises left.

          • NoiseShaper

            Absolutely, and that contract seems to have been booby-trapped as it is…!

    • Jet Allen

      “I feel like some of the arguments down below are biased based on looks”

      Hell, I feel like half the arguments in favor of STILL shipping him with Kyle are biased based on looks (“silver fox,” “daddy,” and so on).

      That being said, yes, if his looks didn’t change – or if he weren’t considered “adorable” – there’d probably be less clamoring for his redemption. Or if he hadn’t been an attractive adult.

      • NoiseShaper

        The actual situation would still be effectively the same, though.
        (Of course all predicated on him actually having been memory-wiped.)

        • Jet Allen

          I’m not saying it wouldn’t have. I’m saying the response people are having to the same situation would be different based on his physical appearance.

          • NoiseShaper

            Yeah, at least initially.

        • ComicBookGoddess

          I don’t think so. It makes a difference if he was physically and mentally regressed by magic versus if he simply suffered similar damage as a result of his actions.

  • Mir

    Kinda reminds me of that episode of Black Mirror called White Bear – is it wrong to punish someone who has no memory of what they’ve done?

    It’s important to punish but at the same time even more to rehabilitate. He is practically a new person after all.

  • Concerto

    They could remove his clothes and put him with the hostages ? Haw please, just save the little kid. é.è

    • He’s around same age as Mitch, who just help fight one of the big kings of hell. Young Duncan is not a little kid. Maybe just ‘normal’ human teenager who may not have a clue what just happened at most. Up to be seen.

      • Concerto

        I know but him being 12 years old or 16 don’t change the fact that I want him safe. Clearly he don’t understand anything.

      • Minyassa

        The Deliverance banjo kid haircut doesn’t help at ALL either.

      • ComicBookGoddess

        The cowering doesn’t help. 🙂

  • Curt Clark

    I’d be scared too.

    I don’t want him punished any more than he already is — unless he’s faking. But if he isn’t, then the military’s locking up a child for the crimes of what essentially amounts to another person.

  • Klaus

    Have a heart. Don’t put him in a very small box. Use a large one.

  • Klaus

    Suppose this guy has access to a drug that will erase the last month or two from your memory. And suppose he wants someone dead. He kills that someone and takes the drug, all within a month of getting the idea. He now has no memory of even the intent of wrongdoing. Is he guilty? Is the amnesia a mitigating factor?

    • Curt Clark

      The time erased is a factor. Duncan has essentially lost all of his memories of being the person he was and the life he led. And unless I miss my guess, that loss is irretrievable.

      Memories are the vast majority of what makes us who and what we are. With no memories of being the Annihilator, the Annihilator is essentially dead.

      • I agree in old Duncan being dead, if all memory of him is gone, not to mention his powers.

        The question is what potential danger ‘new’ Duncan can become. If powers return, or already there, he could be seriously dangerous again.
        Old Duncan’s way to becoming a vilain started when he was a powerful teenager. He has some big blue puppy eyes right now, but they can’t afford to not be causious of him. Until they know more at least.

        A big question is how/why Duncan is still impossible for Amanda to read telepathically. What does this mean?

        • Curt Clark

          I’ve seen this before, when Professor X tried to mindscan Madelyne Pryor back in the early days of her appearance.

          At the time, she was intended to be a normal human with no connection to Jean Grey past looking like her. Having a hard-to-read mind was just a rare phenomenon of her brain chemistry.

          I imagine it’s much the same with Duncan. Some people’s minds just can’t be read.

          • timemonkey

            I’m pretty sure almost everyone the X-Men have met have had ‘hard to mind scan’ on their resume at some point.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Actually, that is why Kitty Pride was the one to travel back into her own past self during Days of Future Past. The X Men are all taught means of psychic defense, and her past self was the only one who hadn’t been trained to resist psychic attack yet.

            In any case, I’m sure it is just part of Duncan’s makeup. Commander seems to think it a possibility.

        • fujoshifanatic

          Maybe part of the reason is that there’s nothing to read? If his mind has truly been erased, then there’s no information for Commander to read, at least the info she’s looking for, which is whether he’s friend or foe. Those thoughts would be based in his intentions, which are based in past actions.
          If you have no memories of them, you have no intentions based on them, and thus nothing to read.

          • Klaus

            He would still know whether he is telling the truth or lying, which is what Amanda tried to read.

          • NoiseShaper

            He can talk coherently, so there is some mind present which should be readable normally. If Amanda can’t read him, maybe Spooky can determine something.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Also, as I mention in another thread, somebody with brain damage is NOT in perfect health.

        • I hope we get an answer on why Duncan was and still is a ‘blank slate’ at some point…

          • Jet Allen

            Maybe he, like Fry from Futurama, did the nasty in the past-y (“How about THESE cookies, sugar?!”) and is now his own grandfather or something bizarre and temporally anomalous like that.

            I just can’t think of unusual brain activity without thinking of that episode, though, so… grain of salt.

    • ComicBookGoddess

      No, because the amnesia at that point was part of a deliberate plan to avoid the consequences of his actions, and is thereby a part of the same crime.

      It is sort of like how if anybody is killed during a felony robbery, you can be charged with murder. Your intent to commit the felony that could cause death is legally treated as analogous to intent to cause a death.

      • NoiseShaper

        Yeah, but the punishment only makes sense if the person being punished can actually take responsibility for the crime.

        If Duncan has been rewound far past the point where he even just conceived the plans for his future crimes, actual culpability doesn’t seem very plausible.

        And even if he planned it that way, as has already been said it would be a form of suicide where the person responsible for his crimes would just cease to exist, just not leaving a corpse behind but a teenager who has no relation to those crimes (assuming his mind-wipe is in fact real and permanent).

        • ComicBookGoddess

          You have to draw a line of culpability somewhere. If the regression is a purposeful attempt to avoid the consequences the only moral solution is to apply the punishment they were attempting to avoid.

          • NoiseShaper

            Intention has it limits when the person who’s had it has in fact ceased to exist, as seems to be the case here.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Perhaps in this application, applying the punishment earned by the later personality seems to be unjust, but part of justice is maintaining a code that encourages others to follow the law. Allowing somebody to escape punishment by suiciding their current personality through intentional inducement of amnesia is not conducive to societal order.

          • NoiseShaper

            I don’t really see an issue there. Taking away all the benefits from a crime by effectively committing suicide is its own deterrence.

            Society doesn’t need to punish an ignorant child for something his predecessor did, and it would actually be corrosive to society if such child abuse was not limited or prevented.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            The problem is that for many people, that amnesia wouldnt be a total personality change. This little guy has gone back to before he made any of the decisions that darkened his soul and changed him. For most people, the decision to lose the time that led to them planning the crime wouldn’t make them a person who wouldn’t plan the crime. And even if it really did, many people aren’t aware of the changes time makes in the self because they were present for the continuity. So they won’t think of it as killing themselves. Creating the expectation that they might be able to use amnesia as a defense would not deter them from either the crime or the intent to avoid consequences.

          • NoiseShaper

            I still see a built-in deterrence in this course of action, and no justification for the punishment of the remaining ignorant teenager.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Many people cannot conceive of loss of self; to them, it is no deterrent at all.

      • Klaus

        No, because the amnesia at that point was part of a deliberate plan to
        avoid the consequences of his actions, and is thereby a part of the same
        crime.

        But he has forgotten all of that crime. If amnesia could wipe out the crime of murder (of which Duncan has comitted or attempted several), why not also the crime of erasing his memory?

        It is sort of like how if anybody is killed during a felony robbery, you
        can be charged with murder. Your intent to commit the felony that could
        cause death is legally treated as analogous to intent to cause a death.

        In some US jurisdictions, that is. This is regarded as seriously wierd most other places.

  • Sapfo

    Memories, might be gone, but what about his powers?
    Kind of feel a bit bad for him. Thouse puppydog eyes…. Adopt him!!!

  • Sapfo

    Happy birthday Chris!
    Hope your birthday is a good one this year! =D

  • fujoshifanatic

    Wow. So you wake up as a kid with no memory of your past and a whole, new future ahead of you in a box in a hole as punishment for stuff you don’t remember doing. Talk about hell on earth. And you still go to hell when you die. Just another example of how making a deal with the devil never works out in your favor.

  • Nate

    Well… THAT sucks.

    If Annihiittle has truly regressed and lost all memory, it would be patently unfair to lock him up for something “he” didn’t do. I’m not sure I feel about that.

    The full-force puppy dog eyes in the last panel don’t help, either.

    • Jet Allen

      “Anihilittle”

      New nickname. Official. Keep forever.

  • I just caught myself humming the chorus to Bad Boys. My dark humor arrises when I’m tired xD

    (Also now reminded that I once re-wrote the lyrics to that whole song, to fit a sexscene in Teahouse a few years ago. Wonder if I can find that comment again)

    • bronakopdin

      oh my really? If you find it, please share it here with me :DD

      • I’m in the process of looking for it. Damn I miss Teahouse. Oh the nostalgia, laughs and pain by looking at old comments. Not only my own. Is it wrong that some of my comments crack me up when I wrote them? Where the heck did I get it from on some of them? LOL

        Also, apparently Rory and Reed was song inspirational. Just found a Popeye verse I did about Reed xD

        • bronakopdin

          Gosh yeah I am so sad they kinda broke it off after all, I thought they might finish it in comic form but at least we got a summary of the remaining story! Not all authors who decide to drop a project deliver the remaining story for the fans just like that!
          I like looking at my printed chapters 1-5 x’D

          and holy crap the song LOL

    • ComicBookGoddess

      Oooh. Another lyricist…

  • Jonni

    People are assuming that the Annihilator’s memories have been wiped clean – what if they’ve just been locked away in his mind somewhere? What if someone like PP were able to unlock them again? What if Anni’s powers are just temporarily suspended? What happens if they are restored and the Annihilator is not contained?

    • Gregory In Seattle

      What if this is just him being the same manipulative rascal he was before?

      • Curt Clark

        Everyone’s aware of that possibility, in and out of universe.

        Personally, I find the story more interesting/tragic if Teenage Maybe-Mutant Ex-Ninja Duncan DOESN’T have his memories anymore.

    • bronakopdin

      I think what you desscribe is the actual definition of amnesia, and yes it is very possible but atm he seems not to remember anything, we’ll see

      • ComicBookGoddess

        Very good point. I would like to point out that a case of amnesia that was a defect would not fit the definition of somebody in “perfect health”, though. So, in order for this to fit the contract, Dunc needs to be whole. That would mean that the amnesia, if real, is a function of the regression and not damage to his brain.

        • bronakopdin

          yep I actually think the very same! Hence my hope that maybe we’ll bring up a very new Duncan here who won’t decide to be called “Annihilator” when he hits 24 again ^^

        • NoiseShaper

          If he is in fact rewound to his adolescence, he would still be whole – even more so in some respects by missing some of the damage that he had accumulated in later life…

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Exactly. Either he remembers, or he has been rewound. If it is anything else, the contract won’t have been fulfilled.

    • timemonkey

      That’s a big part of why, despite the readers wanting him left completely alone, he needs to be taken in and thoroughly examined. That plus who knows what else Kyle’s dad might pull using their connection?

  • Gregory In Seattle

    I want to feel sorry for the kid, he looks so genuinely scared in that last panel. But he was so manipulative as an adult, I can fully understand why the others aren’t buying it.

    Very well done.

  • Jeldenil

    Uh… at least he’ll get to ride in a helicopter?

  • Klaus

    At least it is better than a short, sharp shock.

  • bandanajack

    i just noticed, if his clothes are so much too big, how come his boots still seem proportional and fitting?

    • Klaus

      They say you tell how large a puppy is going to when full grown from the size of its feet. Mayube the same applies to annihilators?

      • bandanajack

        ha.

    • bronakopdin

      well as I am female I cannot really say how it is with men but when I was 12 I already had the shoe size I still have now, and I’d guess the lad there is older than 12, maybe 14 or 15? I can imagine his feet are already the size they’ll stay ^^

      • bandanajack

        not a chance, boys get their growth spurt much later than girls.

        • bronakopdin

          well not like that
          in fact here in Germany if you study to become a teacher we also have a class about physiology differences included in one of the psychology courses because this obviously is an issue at a certain age group
          thing though is, girls have a growth spurt between 11 and 13, yes, and boys do at 13 to 15 and again 17 to 19, so they have 2 and yes the first one is a little later
          still this Duncan here… I don’t know if he looks younger than 13 to me
          and even if, the growth spurt is mainly a height thing not neccessarily a foot size thing, though ofc those also grow a little still, in any case it is a borderline thing here, he could already have gone through that or it might come in a month or two

          • Klaus

            According to the script, he is 15 or 16.

          • bronakopdin

            So yeah I am quite sure his feet are all grown up then tbh x3

    • Vaira

      He’s not walking anywhere. Maybe his shoes are too big and we just don’t see it? His trousers are rather saggy, we don’t see if his shoes cling to his calves or not.

    • davefragments

      I’m giggling at your comments on those boots.
      I bought shoes for teenage boys and they have big feet — ridiculously big feet.

      • PFG9000

        My 13 year old boy wears a U.S. 12 1/2. ….he is also 5’9″.

      • Wayne Lunkwitz

        When I was young (teen age) I went as far as 9 1/2 for perfect fit…..then “the accident” happened……broke my big toe on the right foot….been wearing size 10 to 10 1/2 ever since.

      • bandanajack

        i can’t help myself, i notice peoples boots and shoes, even in comic strips. i love me some boots, and when friends on occasion got a look at my entire boot closet and assorted other shoe storage, to my great annoyance, they invariably fell back on imelda jokes. i am NOT the only man who has a desire to own every pair of shoes he ever coveted. check out the sneaker/trainer collections on display in the homes of many athletes and dancers, or the just plain wealthy. i just managed to pull it off using ebay and 2nd hand stores.

        it also helped that i worked as a redwing shoe fitter and salesman for 6 years, and trust me that job was not acquired by coincidence. not only was i able to get shoe repair for free, but i contracted for and got full wholesale on the new redwings i purchased. my wages were pathetic, but if you ever bought or priced a pair of redwings, you know i made up for the low wage.

        in an ironic twist of fate, or the actions of a malicious higher power, for the past 6 years i have been hobbled by a form of lymphadema that renders boots and most shoes unwearable to me. i would be devastated if i still had all my boots., but almost my entire collection was “lost” by my previous landlord in florida. the losses kind of cancel each other out.

        • Kate G

          I always notice people’s boots and shoes too in comics and in life. I talked about this on another page with Mitch’s boots, how they are in line with equestrian boots, only country style (flat) top line over a Spanish line (which is heavily favored these days for competing.)

          Shoes really show a person’s personality and money situation in a way, especially on the competition ring. Are they bedazzled? Monogrammed? Zipper up the back for ease of use or are you one of the people who likes only laces? (Don’t get me started on laces only tall boots.) Do you only have paddock boots and wear chaps to visually get the tall boot effect? I’m always so impressed by the array of boots I see whenever I go to the Illinois Special Olympics. All of the people are disabled like me, but you see ALL of these different types of boots.

          And then there are my simple, utilitarian tall boots (that are a tad too tall.) HA!

    • Kate G

      I think feet grow first, then height, but that’s always been my experience. My feet always grew before a growth spurt.

  • Jet Allen

    BUDDA
    BUDDA
    BUDDA
    BUDDA

    Excuse me, anyone who watches Modern Family knows that those things go TAKATAKATAKATAKA.

    Unless you’re trying to imply that the helicopters are Buddhist. I always thought they were Jewish, but you learn something new every day.

    • PFG9000

      Those helicopters are in deep meditation on the current events. Their mantra is Budda.

      I can’t believe it’s not budda?

      • Klaus

        Kapow!

    • Kate G

      HA HA HA AHA HA AHA HA, oh lordy, I love you. That is one of my favorite episodes of Modern Family. I cried from laughing so hard from watching that episode.

  • bronakopdin

    thank god he calmed down so easily 😀
    I was seriously concerned about him >////////<
    But seeing those puppy eyes of Duncan I really feel bad for the lad, at least atm it still seems to me that his memory really is gone, so now he is but an amnesiac teen who doesn't even know what happened nor who or where he is nor what he'll be locked in for…
    slightly reminds me on Spooky's backstory, though ofc different enough x'D

  • Cman65

    Not being able to rember the crime doesn’t mean you don’t have to do the time

  • Will Parkinson

    But can you prove it was him? The person you’re looking for is a lot older. True, he may have the same fingerprints or retinal pattern, but that doesn’t mean this is the Annihilator who did the crime.

    • Klaus

      The Exsec is used to supernatural stuff. They will not be fooled.

      • Will Parkinson

        I’m not sure. I mean yes, the older Anni did the deed, but the younger one doesn’t remember it. If he’s taken as a member of the team (for example), would he still grow up to be THAT Anni? I like the way this story is going.

    • Jet Allen

      What a convenient way to escape justice.

    • ComicBookGoddess

      If Exsec never caught him before, and he wears gloves, and especially if he’s been living as just a really rich guy… would they necessarily HAVE his fingerprints?

      • NoiseShaper

        He wore fingerless gloves, so both his DNA and his fingerprints should be on file. (And DNA is not just shed from the fingers anyway – a stray hair can be enough.)

        • ComicBookGoddess

          He also knew about and stole a unique and VERY valuable device with all copies of the research and documentation while murdering the alien scientist that produced it. This should be much more difficult than obscuring his forensics.

  • Pikinanou

    Hey, I’m the same height as Mitch 😀

    • Kate G

      Mitch is just the right size so I don’t have to wear heels to try to reach. LOL. #shortpeopleprobs He’s about 5’5″ it looks like? I’m 5’2.5″ NO HEELS needed!

  • Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday dear @chrisdangerfield:disqus
    Happy Birthday to you

    Have a great birthday sweetie!!!

  • Bei Dawei

    Hey Duncan, how’d you like to spend some time in THE HOLE ?!!!

  • Wayne Lunkwitz

    I think this is the only option…..best to get him in a very secure place…..before something goes very wrong!

  • Bei Dawei

    So, Duncan used to be 58. Born in the late 1950s (complicated by the passage of real time during the publication of the story). That puts him at 15-16 in the mid-1970s. Should the youth spell have restored whatever hairstyle he had back then? In the USA, his cropped cut would have been less likely than a blow-dried look, but what were the English wearing? Mohawks?

    Also, since he asked for eternal youth, does that mean he’s going to stay 16 forever? If he does age, maybe it would be dramatic for his memories to return for everything he did up to whatever age he’s reached again.

  • Jason Moon

    Things either just got better or worse. Could go either way.

  • xLizardx

    I love this moral conundrum with which we’re now presented. Just when I think I know where things are going, Alex pulls another twist out of the bag – completely plausible, but genuinely unanticipated – and inspires an entire spiral of ethical speculation.

    This is great entertainment – but also great intellectual stimulation as well.

    Can a person with amnesia be culpable of their crimes? Personality, and consequently identity, lies within the mind. If the mind is utterly altered, then surely the identity must be as well. Yet the alteration was a direct result of the previous personality’s actions, and arguably, comprehensively premeditated [although it’s debatable whether Duncan would have chosen to eliminate his present self in favour of his previous naivety, unless as a possible means of escaping emotional torment. Even if that were indeed the case, I’d be inclined to claim he wouldn’t: after all, it would be a form of suicide].

    • NoiseShaper

      I agree to your line of thinking.

    • Klaus

      Yes. Yes. Exactly this.

    • ComicBookGoddess

      I’m leaning toward the amnesia being genuine, and as Laampros would need to follow the letter of the agreement, that means it is permanent, as he must then be in perfect health. That would mean that although the regression was a consequence of his actions, it was not a consequence of the intention to avoid the consequences of his actions.

      The personality that did the evil has faced the ultimate consequence of the end of his existence. The new person was not created as a deliberate attempt to evade justice. So, it would not be just to punish him.

      I also think that Alex depicts a world that is at least as unjust as ours, in that respect, though, so we will see.

  • Wayne

    You know, the only thing identifying him as The Annihilator is the shreds of that costume. Get rid of that and he walks with the rest of the victims. Also, do we know when he got his powers? If it’s not something he was born with, he might just be a powerless kid right now.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Annihilator claimed he was a bullied child and got his powers at puberty, and then used them to get revenge, back on chap.2 p.3: [http://webcomics.yaoi911.com/typ/ete-ch2-page-3/]

      If we assume that he was telling the truth (which admittedly may be a big leap), and we also that his currently effective age is the result of direct demonic malice on the part of Laampros (a far more likely possibility) then, yes, Annihilator is probably currently powerless and likely to be stuck that way forever.

      This is why my personal take is that he probably lost his powers but the amnesia is possibly temporary (induced by trauma) or being faked. The most maliciously amusing option for Laampros would be to de-age Annihilator back to the point where he is helpless and let Annihilator know it, so that he’s stuck back in his personal childhood nightmare.

      • Adam Black

        He still has the new powers granted by Laampros. Platinum Teen Barbie might be able to magic up an Adamantium Skeleton for him.

      • ComicBookGoddess

        Again – temporary would mean Laampros didn’t fulfill the letter of the contract. Has to be either genuine regression or a sham.

        • Saxon_Brenton

          A good point.

    • NoiseShaper

      A DNA ID would still work, presumably, with evidence from some of his crime scenes!

  • Thunder Chicken

    Aww, who’s a little super villain? That’s right! YOU’RE a little super villain!

  • Kate G

    Gadot mentioned she sprained her back (plus she just loves flats because she likes being balanced), so she’s wearing flats to keep her back in the proper position for healing. Heels would have exacerbated the issue, so I’m really glad she realizes when to take care of herself.

    I have been curious about Wonder Woman. She’s not my favorite female super hero (I love Batgirl more), but it looks like a nice movie. But first….TEMPEL LIPPIZAN!

  • NoiseShaper

    It very much looks as if Amanda is trolling Duncan-Rewound right now, and since I don’t take her for someone who’s just cruel for the heck of it, my primary theory would be that she’s looking if his mind-reading block can be shaken by intimidating him further.

    Duncan had told Kyle that he suffered bullying as a child and his mind block might have been part of his reaction to that.

    Unfortunately, bullying him now might actually be counterproductive and further entrench his feeling of being lost, alone and under duress.

    As some agent once said in the controversy about Guantanamo Bay: Torture usually doesn’t work, but some kind words and a cup of coffee can sometimes do wonders.

    intimidation might not break Duncan if he’s just simulating – he’d be too hard core for that. But it could damage and turn young and amnesiac Duncan again onto the path he’d followed before…

    • I don’t think she has a huge saying in whether or not Exsec put him in a security jail.

      • NoiseShaper

        Being able to read minds should give her quite a bit of influence as a valuable consultant even outside of her backchannels through her mom.

      • ComicBookGoddess

        But she _does_ have a huge say in whether they even tell ExSec that they think he is the same person.

        • timemonkey

          Lying to the government about crimes that endangered the world is not a good idea.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Sure. But even if it is not a good idea, it may still be The Right Thing To Do. As heroes they are beholden to Do That Thing Which Is The Right Thing To Do.

          • Adam Black

            Lying to Excec to shelter one of the two biggest supervillains in the world, probably isn’t the right thing to do.

          • NoiseShaper

            No, but if he has in fact actually and irrevocably lost all memories of his adult life, he really isn’t that supervillain any more.

        • ChibE

          Exactly! They could easily pass him off as one of the victims if they get him out of the costume.

  • maya chan

    well I get why they been crual to him, but has a child that didn’t “do” those things yet, it’s a little too much I think.
    okay. let’s say you are 14-12 and someone from the future come to your living room angry with weird powers and blame you for things you did in the future. even if you DIDN’T do them yet! would you believe them or you will be freak out cause you have no idea what that dude talking about since it didn’t happen yet and sure they crazy? and it kind of clear he don’t have the same “body” anymore.
    I do believe him that he don’t remember anything, look at his eyes and face. even if some people don’t believe him, and I get why they don’t. I don’t think he have any reason to lie, since the old him know and was ready to be punished anyway.
    I just want people to think how they would feel if they were judged by the things they did in the future and not “their” present.

    also I wonder if Duncan will grow up 0_0 from been a child right now I mean, or would he stay that way forever? I hope he would grow up cause that will be much more interesting to see what will become of him if he had different life.

    • timemonkey

      This isn’t things in the future though, it’s things that happened the last two days, things that have already happened, not potential future crimes.

      • maya chan

        not the young Duncan, it maybe happen to his “old” body and “old” mind, and the others in the story. but if his mind come back in time to his very “young” self, to him it is like the future. it kind of the same of like I just talk about in the example. since I do believe his mind come back to his “young” self.

        so if even to the “guy” that show up in front of you it happen a day ago, to you it didn’t happen at all XD
        to this “young” Duncan mind it will be years before he actually do it or even thinking of doing it. to him, “young kid”, it didn’t happen. and his body shrink from what it was before so….yap.

  • Silly thought: when I saw the second panel on Alex’s tumblr post, I realised it kinda looks like they are actually tiny models of copters in front of her!

  • Jojolightningfingers

    oohh… that pinup… i love the difference in body type. spooky’s kinda squishy while paul is just. ripped.

  • Samurai Jack

    I’m kind of hoping Duncan has his powers. He’d be a kid without parents, with super powers, needing constant supervision. Who better to give him that than Amanda and Gordon?

    I’m (probably) not being serious about this. But I wouldn’t be shocked if he joined the team.

    • timemonkey

      Handing him over to the friends of the guy he manipulated and screwed over and then outright attacked might not be the best idea. Just because the comments are all ‘lil Duncan is so cute let’s forgive everything’ doesn’t mean the actual characters will be so forgiving.

      • Samurai Jack

        Consider it a “hero test”. Can they overcome their resentments? They don’t have to forgive him. Just find a way to live with him and make him a better person with his next chance..

        • timemonkey

          Growing up in a place where the parental figures resent you pretty much leads to emotional abuse, whether they mean to or not.

          • ChibE

            He doesn’t need to be in “a very small box” or with the Protectors, either, if his memories really are gone. He needs as close to a fresh start as he can get, otherwise living in his own supervillainous shadow may cause history to repeat itself.

          • timemonkey

            That’s up to the legal system. He may be looking at a bullet to the back of the head.

          • Adam Black

            Ok, and Then what?

          • timemonkey

            Then they look into the problem of the weakening walls.

          • Adam Black

            Walls Probably solved.

            But what do you do with Duncan after you shoot him in the head? Hes already got a memory wipe.

          • timemonkey

            Unless Sircea was weakening the walls herself to set this up the walls have not been dealt with at all.

            Bury the body now that he’s no longer a threat.

          • Adam Black

            I thought Getting Laampros through the Gate would invoke Sirceas spell to patch the walls.

            You can bury him, but he won’t be dead.
            And if he regains his powers post burial, you’ve created a whole new threat.

          • timemonkey

            Nope, it was explained, they needed to bring the demons to Earth top increase the amount of magical energy on earth which would increase Sircea’s power enough to let her repair the walls over time and then eventually kick the demons back out.

            He never asked for eternal life, just eternal youth. He can be a young healthy corpse forever.

          • Adam Black

            I thought Duncan revealed it was connected.

            What is a healthy corpse ?

          • timemonkey

            Connected to what?

            A corpse free of sickness or infection. Perfectly preserved.

        • Adam Black

          They already passed the Hero Test.

          • Samurai Jack

            You may be misunderstanding me. If presented with the choice, forgiving and accepting Duncan is the test.

          • Adam Black

            The story started that way, with Kyle accepting Duncan.
            That might be the test for doormat or abused partner.

            I think the Heroes journey is supposed to be something else.

            They’ve been tested and passed. It’s Duncan that needs to be tested.

            Duncan hasn’t earned those things.

  • David Welbourn

    Sorry, Amanda, but I think it does matter if he’s telling the truth or not. If Duncan’s mind and body are both gone, where is the Duncan that committed his crimes? Identity can be a tricky concept in a case like this. It’s like the ship of Theseus. This might as well be Duncan’s brother for that he has in common with the Duncan we knew. Would you be so quick to cork him up into solitary confinement for life if Duncan was regressed into a 4 year old?

    And yet, and yet, I can counter-argue against myself. We have the example of Magneto who was as old as the Annihilator and had a mind-block that even Professor X couldn’t penetrate, but managed to get himself regressed into a baby and taken off Earth by the enigmatic Stranger…. and then, years later, somehow managed to regain his body, all his memories, and his powers were in fact strengthened as well, making Magneto into a more dangerous menace than he was before.

    So, uh, be very cautious, Amanda, but please don’t make any irrevocable decisions. It would be a tragedy of justice if an innocent boy was punished so severely for the sins of an adult that he merely shares a name with.

    • ComicBookGoddess

      I think Amanda is still probing – both of them.

      • Chris Dangerfield

        I agree. The rest is philosophical. Amanda is saying what Kyle (her priority) needs to hear. “This is the government’s problem, Kyle, you have to let go now.”

        • ComicBookGoddess

          I don’t know. As I pointed out, hiding him is something they could do. She just might be trying to see if that is worth it or even a good plan.

          • Chris Dangerfield

            I believe as someone who is a child of a military mother and who team is supported and by the laws that govern them I suspect that whatever Amanda herself wants to have happen, I doubt that she will think “hiding” Duncan and the truth of the situation is an answer she’s allowed to decide.

            This is just my POV of Amanda.

            As far as Lil’ Duncan being imprisoned I have no idea if that could or would happen if he truly was a permanent kid who could not remember anything, but regardless I suspect she would allow her “bosses” to diagnose Duncan’s situation and that if they chose to hand him back to her and TYP to try to retrain, she would follow orders and she’d try to help Kyle deal with it.

            I do guess the cold way she says “bury him deep” is strictly for Kyle. Just her way of saying to him yes you’ve suffered greatly and you deserve to know Duncan gets what he deserves.

            I suspect she’s fully got Kyle’s number. He’ll get this out and then he’ll worry about a vulnerable kid. This way whatever happens to Duncan, Kyle won’t have to live with something he did that later horrifies him.

            Anything related to Amanda — Is. The. Bomb.

            I’ve also been thinking about how interesting reading this in book-form is going to be. We’ll read the hell-date and then read this moment very shortly afterwards. The chronological “FEEL” of these events to these characters is going to seem to read almost opposite of what it has felt like for those of us who have been reading weekly for years. It’s going to be very interesting. Cannot wait.

            Thanks again A, A & V!

          • Pietro7

            What the ever-articulate Chris D said. Doubled.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Having read it for the first time last week, Chris, yes, it seems to be much easier to remember that the hell date was barely yesterday. 🙂

  • Keneu

    Theose sound effects for the helicopters are funny. xD it looks like they are proselytizing about Buddhism.

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      I do apologize ……but the first thought I had , led me back to a very old margarine commercial……..PARKAY anyone?

      • Pietro7

        Just remember, it’s not nice to fool Mother Nature. 🙂
        (Yes, I am that old.)

        • Wayne Lunkwitz

          I remember that one too…….but in this case the “Budda Budda Budda” led me right to the “butter vs Parkay ” argumment.

    • Mark1115

      “budda budda budda budda” –

      We can be sure those folks in the choppers are serious,

      or the chopper sound woulda been

      budda bing budda boom.

  • Toli Bera

    Poor kid. That’s not the nature or the nurture he needs 🙁

  • Keneu

    lol maybe…? i think duncan will be stuck in samsara for a while, though. turning back in time to a younger version of himself should count as half reincarnation xD

  • davefragments

    Lord Stanley, Lord Stanley … The Penguins have won the Cup!

  • Wow, thanks for scaring the confused teen with amnesia and possibly causing him to have a panic attack in the next page.
    I am by no means dismissing Duncan’s lies and cruelty of the past, but I want to believe in the goodness in THIS Duncan because it hasn’t been twisted by greed and bitterness yet.

  • bandanajack

    hilariously, imho, of all the comments or responses i have made in YP world, none have sparked as much discussion and debate and responses as my boot observation. now i want a dedicated hero/villain boot thread !

    • davefragments

      Concerning boots —
      One of the characters in the current adaptation of AMERICAN GODS is Mad Sweeney. He’s one of the “gods” and is a Leprechaun brought from Ireland to America by Essie McGowan who believed in him and left the sacrifice or milk and bread for him. She was a thief who was “transported” to the new colonies.
      In the modern day, Mad Sweeney wears boots that are colonial in design because of how he came to be in modern times. This was done deliberately to ground him in the Old World.

  • Snorlaxation

    They’re going to strip him down real quick, or hide him on the ship, claim he’s one of the victims, and take him on as one of their own. Fingers crossed.

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Actually, that raises an amusing image: The YP try to disguise Anni as one of the sacrifices, but the sacrifices were all aware of what was happening while they were in Spooky’s protective soul custody, and they all go, “Uh, no, that guy wasn’t with us…”, and the YP are all “Well crap…”

  • Bianca King

    I have a feeling The Young Protectors will have a new member…

    • Klaus

      Amanda does not think so.

  • Chris Dangerfield

    Alex, thank you kindly for the most excellent Birthday wishes. Of all possible addictions, my addiction to new Young Protector pages is the healthiest one possible. I can’t tell you what a year round present your work is. A year long birthday… The Young Protector way… it’s excellent.

    All my best,
    Christopher D

    • Adam Black

      Oh No, is that why you’ve been missing.

      Have you been locked up in rehab for 6 months ?

      What are these terrible addictions ? Heroin? Muffins ? College orgies? Heroin Muffins?

  • I wonder how many people dun even give a single fuck that Kid Anni is going to spend his possible eternal-childhood in a peter pan prison? I mean, I wanted him alive and he alive, I’m more or less set at this point. :/

    • NoiseShaper

      Several of us do care, actually (see this and previous comment sections).

      Of course it would change things if he was just simulating, which we can’t really know at this point…

  • Nofsky8

    Hello to my fellow early campers! How was everybody’s day?

    • davefragments

      Sun, warm weather, haircut, history, and Einstein … I enjoyed the day.
      And how was yours?

      • Pietro7

        Took my son out to see Wonder Woman. Excellent movie!

        • davefragments

          I plan to go see WONDER WOMAN this weekend

          • Pietro7

            Well worth it, the glitches were tiny and the storytelling marvelous, and hoo boy can they act! Wonderful work with the settings, but not over-used – my son was impressed by London, among many other things. Chris Pine looks enough like Matt Damon that I wondered if he was his younger brother, but his acting is his own. The brief moment of fanservice was delightfully funny, with a sly extra twist in a scene later on that fans of this comic may greatly enjoy. The cultural discontinuity between Diana’s classical (literally) education and the real world of WWI was delightful and sorrowful and completely believable. Well worth the money.

          • davefragments

            I’ve been watching GENIUS on Nat Geo and much of Einstein’s life revolves around WW1 — It’s certainly altogether different.
            I’ve only heard nice things about Wonder Woman

      • Nofsky8

        Pretty good, my brother left to hang out with some friends early in the morning so I was alone most of the day, it was nice, I did some weeding and watering in my garden,

        • davefragments

          Nice day to be outside.

          • Nofsky8

            Yep, though it got up in to the hundreds in the afternoon, my dad called to tell me he was on his way home and to drink a glass of water, luckily my dog and I didn’t go out much in the afternoon,

    • ComicBookGoddess

      I can’t believe that I actually have to bribe my dog to drink his water on an 80 degree day.

      • Nofsky8

        100 degrees for me, will she drink out of anything but the hose? No, she will not.

        • ComicBookGoddess

          Bullion might work. Ice cubes do sometimes. I’ve tossed his little cookies in there. He actually knows what “drink” means now, and will do it as a command with a bribe.

          • davefragments

            I used ice cubes.

          • Nofsky8

            Yeah, she mostly drinks it with ice cubes, even then though, it’s not a garentee, luckily she likes her food with so much water it’s soup,

          • davefragments

            She has you trained.
            Ah, what are doggies for but to spoil.

          • Nofsky8

            Yep, she also has Mom trained to give her pain medication then put her to bed early, it’s funny not that Mom minds going to bed early,

          • davefragments

            My Mother ran from dogs. Hysterically scared of them.
            One day, my Dad brought a puppy home and the next day I found my Mother on her hands and knees feeding this little beast meatballs piece by piece.
            Spoiled? Spoiled?

  • davefragments

    Hello Campers

    • I almost completely forgot about camping today!! I guess I just didn’t realize what day it was today!

      How are you doing tonight?!

      • davefragments

        Good. It was a nice day. How was yours?

        • It was pretty good. Kinda hot, but good!
          Also the manager at a place I applied to wants to talk to me on the phone tomorrow. Fingers crossed that I get this position!

          I am hoping if everything goes how I want it to, I will end up being able to rejoin Alex’s patreon page!

          • davefragments

            I hope the phone call is good news.

          • Nofsky8

            I agree, I hope everything goes well Jreed,

          • Me too! I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the well wishes, guys! 🙂

    • ComicBookGoddess

      Oh, good. I was wondering if it was too early to camp.

      • Nofsky8

        It is never too early to camp, (as long as you’re ok with no one else being there/here!)

        • I am sometimes super early and have to start the campfire all by myself!

          • Nofsky8

            Hehe, and you get to eat the s’mores all by yourself!

          • Right you are!!
            I can’t resist a good s’more!

          • Nofsky8

            Hehe, 🙂

          • Pietro7

            Speaking of which, I brought marshmallows and chocolate. Anyone have graham crackers?

          • I’ve got plenty!! I make sure to always be stocked up for camping nights!

          • Nofsky8

            I wish I had real life marshmallows, actually I’m going to put it on the grocery list right now,

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Good call!

          • Yeah… I gotta say… All this s’more talk is making me want to go get some!
            If I had marshmallows I’d warm up some in my microwave right now! Hehe.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I think I’ll start with a couple of toasted marshmallows by themselves, then have a s’more or two.

          • Pietro7

            Here, have four. 🙂

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Thank you! <3

          • ComicBookGoddess

            *sigh*
            I need the GF ones.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Aw, I didn’t even realize that marshmallows *had* gluten – I’m sorry!

          • ComicBookGoddess

            No, the crackers. Marshmallows shouldn’t… but many things that shouldn’t do. 🙁

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Yeah, I have a friend who has a lot of food allergies, including to gluten. I have been learning a lot from her.

      • Saxon_Brenton

        As Nofsky8 says, it’s never too early – but I find it’s made much easier being in a time zone where I can be working with a tab open for the camp and not risking falling asleep.

        • ComicBookGoddess

          I just got back from volunteer fire stuff and some judicious Pokémon and Ingress. Ready for more story… but until then I have Doritos, sour cream, and mimosa. 🙂

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Sounds like a good evening all around!

          • ComicBookGoddess

            I got to change out the deck gun nozzle, which involved climbing up on top of the truck. The lake was very far down.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Whoa!!

          • ComicBookGoddess

            I also got fitted for rescue gear. Means I”lol have to give my fire gear back, but it will be much more comfortable.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ooh, sounds like a good deal.

          • Pietro7

            Mimosa! Trade you a 12-ounce bar of chocolate for a mimosa?

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Certainly. I have extra. And Tuaca, too. I recommend the apple cider to mix.

          • Pietro7

            Yum!

    • stickfigurefairytales

      Hi Dave! Congratulations on winning hockey!

      • davefragments

        Thanks,
        I watched most of the B-Ball game. Hard loss.
        Durant was on a streak.

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Yeah…at least it wasn’t a sweep, though!

          • davefragments

            🙂

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Based on this page, I would instantly agree to hide mini Duncan from the authorities and also wrap him in a blanket. But then again, it’s been well established that I’m the sort of person who will look up if you tell me that someone wrote “gullible” on the ceiling.

    • Nofsky8

      Is it ok if I tell my brother that joke in the morning, cuz it’s great,

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Absolutely! I didn’t coin it, technically – it’s actually a joke where someone says “Did you know that ‘gullible’ is written on the ceiling?” and then if you look up they make fun of you. I can affirm that I have not fallen for it more than once.

        • I remember awhile back some one tricked me with one that was like “Did you know if you say ‘(some random word)’ really slowly, it will sound like ‘gullible?'”
          And I started saying it slowly and before I even finished it… I was like “Heey wait, I ain’t fallin’ for that!” But it was too late. I had already starting saying it! Haha

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Ah, good times! *laughs*

          • Nofsky8

            There’s one I remember from elementary school where someone would be like “Hey look” and point at nothing and then laugh at you when you looked, and another where they tell you your shoe laces are untied when you’re wearing shoes without laces,

          • stickfigurefairytales

            And the “there’s something on your shirt” one where when you look down they flick their (pointing) finger up to flick your nose.

          • Nofsky8

            That one was actually never pulled on me,

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Sounds like you guys should join a volunteer fire company… 🙂

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Actually, I was a volunteer EMT for a couple of years in college!

          • Nofsky8

            The firefighters in our county are all volunteer. I think PG county is the nearest paid fire company,

          • ComicBookGoddess

            MD? Yeah, I hear that is so.

          • Nofsky8

            Yep, we always hear about PG county on the news,

          • stickfigurefairytales

            The first one is ideally followed up with a triumphant “Made you look!”

    • Who has two thumbs and is just as gullible? This guy.
      So… Yeah… I am on the same page as you. Haha

      • stickfigurefairytales

        Gullibility five! Up top! *raises hand*

        • ComicBookGoddess

          This can’t end well…

          • Pietro7

            But there might be some funny jokes along the way. :-0

          • stickfigurefairytales

            One time my sister and I went to high-five and we both missed each other’s hand completely and simultaneously smacked each other in the face. It was hilarious.

        • *totally goes to give you a high five, with no fear of being bamboozled*

          • stickfigurefairytales

            *actually does high-five you on account of being a pure and trusting person*

          • Yay for successful high-fives!!

          • stickfigurefairytales

            I have been told that a helpful way to avoid missing someone’s hand when going for a high five is to watch their elbow, since that will help you see if their hand is moving.

          • I’ve been told that as well! And it seems to work for me, for the most part!!

    • ComicBookGoddess

      Perhaps I should mention that I have done empirical testing on “how many paramedics does it take to change a light bulb”?

      • davefragments

        It depends on how much weight they can bench press

        • ComicBookGoddess

          Let’s just say my company is probably a bit different than the ones from your city. The Pittsburgh and Philly Strike Team crews looked like marine units. We… do not. 🙂

          • davefragments

            I had to take an ambulance ride to the hospital last month and I think the driver took every bad, bumpy, twisty country road between here and there. Worst driver in the world.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            It is more difficult than you might think, especially if the truck isn’t new. But some people are just bad at it. 🙂

            Did I meet you at Confluence a couple years ago?

          • davefragments

            No. I wasn’t at Confluence. Although that is my face in my avatar. My one and only selfie. A token selfie

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Mine is, too. Forgot who took it.

          • davefragments

            His partner sitting next to me said that he might get queasy from the driving.
            That’s a bad omen.

          • ComicBookGoddess

            Yeah. It is.

            First rule of EMS: Don’t make more work for EMS.

          • Nofsky8

            Are you ok?

          • davefragments

            Yes. And the doctors are both satisfied that we knew what happened and why. So I’m good.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Glad to hear it!

          • Nofsky8

            That’s good,

      • stickfigurefairytales

        What is the answer?

        • ComicBookGoddess

          One… but it has to be the one with the keys to the supply cabinet.

          • stickfigurefairytales

            Hahahaha!

      • NoiseShaper

        Two, because:

        a) there’s never the budget for more than two on one rig anyway, so they’ll have to make do

        b) one alone isn’t allowed to do anything or (s)he’d get sued to oblivion

        • stickfigurefairytales

          Also a good answer.

    • Adam Black

      Better ask @Sapho.

      She’s got dibs on Wrapping Twinks in blankets

      • Sapfo

        Wrap him up I say!

        • Adam Black

          Queen of the Canolis so gets the lick of cream.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    That’s a very wise way of looking at it! I will try to remember that.

    • Yes. Agreed. I very much like that philosophy.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Oh dear.

  • stickfigurefairytales

    Can’t keep my eyes open much longer. I might have to bow out before the page goes up.

    • Nofsky8

      If you do, sleep well!

    • ComicBookGoddess

      I’m making chicken quesadillas…

  • Pietro7

    I hope Alex, Adam and Vero are all fine. Delays always bring out my paranoia. 🙁

    • ComicBookGoddess

      Haven’t been doing this long enough to notice. It’s only not quite ten Pacific, right?

      • Nofsky8

        I think it might be 9:45, but they normally update by midnight eastern, normally I’d give up and go to bed by now, but I’m doing a thing tonight,

    • Sapfo

      Take it easy, sometimes a page need a little bit longer in the oven to be ready. I´m sure the Alex soon will put on the ovenmittens.

  • Sapfo

    Good morning good people!

    • davefragments

      Good morning

    • Nofsky8

      Morning,

    • Saxon_Brenton

      Hello.

    • Adam Black

      What about us bad lurkers ?

    • Morning 🙂

    • ComicBookGoddess

      Morning? What is this madness? I don’t do…
      Mornings.

  • Since I fell asleep again this morning, before I even got my tablet turned on, it looks liie I picked the right day to do it. Still made it to camp. Woke up 10mins ago with my phone (my alarm clock) lying next to my hand. That was as far as it made after I turned the alarm off 🙂

  • davefragments

    patreon rumbles

    • Nofsky8

      Yay!

  • davefragments
  • I’m delighted to learn Spooky is the same height as my husband.

    • That’s very cool. 🙂 Are there other similarities?

      • AS FAR AS I KNOW my husband has never been to hell, but I mean who knows 😛

  • Tanaya M.

    My heart actually is breaking for little Duncan… If he really is just a kid who doesn’t know what’s happening, that’s not really his fault. He’s not who he was anymore. Poor guy… really hope he’s not just faking.

  • MicaXIII

    ehhh I don’t like that he lost his memories, then he’s not himself anymore. he’s just this poor kid who is getting punished without any understanding what he’s done wrong and that can really damage is psyche.
    and given his mind is “a blank slate” he can’t possibly lying either.

  • Parkverse

    I don’t agree with imprisoning him in the slightest. If this is how this ends with him, I find this appalling.